harb's team going 4-0
#esports-discussion
pearl stratus
I can't tell the rank of the team xQc is playing though
jagged crater
elk's team plowed thru 3-0 but looks like lesser teams
tomorrow will be intersting
gonna be fun watching our fav streamers go against eachother
pearl stratus
Yeah Jakes team is the first one I think that played a Contenders team.
Went 3-2 as well.
celest spear
xQc's team kinda rolled, not gonna lie
mossy escarp
pearl stratus
It's OD. So there's teams as low as plat, iirc.
vital yarrow
Why does Rawkus have such a fat ass
manic raven
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Einfach bei mir melden
per Privat chat
Wir wollen auch an Tournieren spielen 🙂
balmy wolf
You speak french channel?
karmic grotto
??
little silo
He's just asking if someone is looking for a german OW team to play tournaments with
Wrong channel and language though
karmic grotto
ML7 is cracked as fuck
This guy competes with Contenders players easily
ML7 every freaking match
a Card for healing
pearl stratus
They still haven't played a great team yet, which makes the card more obtainable typically (since they can't confirm kills/focus etc)
But he is really good.
karmic grotto
Team XD played against Contenders team
And he obtained the card even then
It was fun to watch
Playing against a pro team who scrimmed for years vs an established team of yesterday
hehehe
Should have more of these tournaments
pearl stratus
Which Contenders team? Only other one I've seen play so far is a SA contenders team
But they'd only been together for a few weeks
Due to roster rotations and stuff
karmic grotto
Fun thing that they beat Young and Beautiful
But yes
You're right about that
Rosters change every new season
pearl stratus
Yeah, Jakes team played Clarity - a SA team. Honestly team played well, and they had one of the best Hanzos I've seen like...
period.
Are you sure they played YaB? The bracket must be wrong then, it has Haffi's team having played YaB.
Then Haffi's team won
karmic grotto
Yes, I was talking about berries playing yab
jagged crater
when do the games start"?
pearl stratus
Yeah Haffi isn't holding up so well against Brit. Hurricane though which was expected.
pearl stratus
Yeah against a real team Haffi was just a giant liability.
At least on a tank role.
I expect Custa will be the same
stiff wasp
Custa will slap you shut ur mouth
jagged crater
intense match on harb's team, barely 3-2
spring lintel
dude i had so much more fun watching that than 80-90% of owl games holy shit
spring lintel
there was so much fucking hype holy damn
jagged crater
Contenders would actually be watched a lot more if players were allowed to stream their games
raw ermine
lmao Frogger's team is trying to play goats
cause there opponents didn't lock 2-2-2
gg frogger's team is out
jagged crater
fly eagles fly
spring lintel
they are gonna lose because of redshell drama now
jagged crater
why was redshell so mad
spring lintel
cause they didnt play him because they were trying to win
he says he should have played cause it was for fun and they werent trying to win
he would have been fine if they lost, but they won and thats why he is salty probably
jagged crater
there's still some contenders level teams
spring lintel
that last team was the strongest or something
jagged crater
emotional ending on harb's stream 😢
pearl stratus
They're doing okay 0-1.
jagged crater
cant believe it's already been a year since he did that dad stream thing
pearl stratus
Old Man Strength has some bullshit named tanks though
Mac and Veg. Which is bs.
You're either Mac and Cheese
Or Meat and Veg.
jagged crater
3 letter named tank players pogchamp
supple prism
OMS is ruining Socks goes Mei with hanzo and pharmercy
A10is trying to make up for constantly having a mei
grim field
jagged crater
yeatle's team is nuts
trim shadow
Jjonak is a far cry villain confirmed
jagged crater
elk's team is nuttier
jagged crater
jayjonak
tropic herald
Jjonak looks almost like the one picture of him now
celest spear
Jjojacked
minor fossil
guys just asking what do y'all think of fusions new roster
raw ermine
extremely good on all fronts, and then sado
But if the rest of the team plays well, sado will see sucess
and they are the most prepared for a doomfist meta of course.
mint flower
limber pine
Analysts
mint flower
Strategic Coach
pearl stratus
Wizard is just pure stats and strats, which is (imo) probably what he's best at.
Numbers people rarely work well with real people.
balmy wolf
I really dont expect a doomfist meta; but then again with how slow Blizzard is to patch things maybe
pearl stratus
He's basically gone now, as is.
Shields break too easily for him to be a necessity.
balmy wolf
Tbh Hanzo seems too freakishly strong
He feels like DVA before sigma; constantly used and never a bad pick
jagged crater
wide peepo
raw ermine
Since shields are weak him and widows are good due to being snipers, but hanzo has better shield break
jagged crater
andeysay>?
short sparrow
pearl stratus
Twitter
I would not be upset if Eddy made it to Academy/OWL.
He's always been a really bright spot for his area.
jagged crater
im here to buy with eddys
sullen berry
Damn I need to watch more DragonEddy
He definitely stood out in a dominating OWWC Paris group stage
Also
The many roasts of Yiska
and cool matt without makeup
supple prism
Im 1992. Im too old for this shit. But seriously, i wonder about the various issues of this particular age range they could have. 18-25 was when i was still an idiot, barely took care of myself and could easily be taken advantage of for my lack experience in how businesses and contracts work. And im barely better now. At least a min 50k is required and they get housing.
My hope is these players invest their earnings and maintain their own plan for the future.
abstract hill
,
mint flower
How old is coolmatt?
gaunt acorn
30
balmy wolf
He's like slightly older than ryu
mint flower
Yeah I thought ryu was the oldest player in OWL
trim shadow
Coolmat is like 31? Last i heard
gaunt acorn
nope, 30
mint flower
And what about ryu
balmy wolf
28 last i heard
mint flower
Jake 27?
gaunt acorn
he's 23
trim shadow
Jake looks like hes bloody 35 with a kid
balmy wolf
nice meme
lean bloom
What is going on guys 😊
karmic grotto
Teamspeak is better than Discord
raw ermine
My friend highly disagrees with you lmao
graceful gale
lmfao imagine
hidden vault
So he thinks discord is better?
raw ermine
He thinks teamspeak looks like a program that would run off of windows 94. Direct quote.
cloud latch
is there a difference between them when talking?
raw ermine
He used it a couple of months ago experienced high levels of static. Visually he hates the layout. He thinks it looks like a Google Doc , but worse.
limber pine
TeamSpeak and Discord accomplish very different things
even though they're both technically voice chat programs
raw ermine
My friend believes that is true. 1 is good 1 is bad. TS is less user friendly. Direct quotes from him.
karmic grotto
You sure?
Did you see the new teamspeak beta?
Looks alot better than teamspeak 3
raw ermine
He wants a photo of the new teamspeak.
cloud latch
search up teamspeak beta
hidden vault
Is he from america?
raw ermine
NA yes USA no
pearl stratus
Team Speak also is secure.
Which is literally 99% of the point, would be my best.
Discord is great.
But people relying on a free product are not the most well versed in not being stupid as fuck.
trim shadow
Was gonna say teamspeak is probably more secure
trim shadow
Wait fr?
pearl stratus
Yep.
From what I remember Teamspeak has an AES Military grade security attached to it when you get to that level.
Boeing and Lockheed Martin as well.
trim shadow
Df is nasa using teamspeak for?
hidden vault
They need clear communication
Much more than gamers
Imagine in space comms fail
You can't let that happen
velvet gorge
Wtf
pearl stratus
Also if you watched the Breaking Barriers tournament last weekend.
Discord literally broke in the middle of it
hidden vault
But the question here what does he mean by better?
pearl stratus
And it delayed a bunch of games.
Also one of the major things is you can set up TS servers yourself internally. It provides no external access.
Whereas Discord always has your data etc.
So my guess is that all contributes.
But yeah, TS is by far a bad solution. It's usually just more than the average dumbo needs.
Discord is kind of like Apple, it works and does it well and you can be a chimp to use it.
That's a good product
hidden vault
What ever Dancv33 quoted sounds like teamspeak is of a lower quality not with the reasons you describe
pearl stratus
Dancv33 quoted his friend.
And also said you had to pay for TS.
Both of which are completely wrong.
hidden vault
Yeah quoted his friend
I meant that it's likely that his friends thinks team speak has a lower quality voice chat than discord
pearl stratus
Than his friend probably wears a helmet and takes a special bus to school.
Flat out.
And probably had no clue how to set it up, since its not plug and play.
raw ermine
It was my fault. I thought you had to pay for teamspeak. I had heard it a while back. My fault.
He corrected me.
pearl stratus
They literally have the same codecs 😛
Both are running OPUS iirc.
You were right in the past Dan, so I don't fault you for it. You're thinking of TS Server pricing before it became much easier to just host your own.
raw ermine
Ok. Makes sense
pearl stratus
But in terms of audio quality, you should be getting nearly identical results with your standard gear if you set up codecs.
Team Speak has a higher theoretical audio, but that's unlikely with what your average gamer uses for mic/headphone set ups.
karmic grotto
OWL gear can use it
pearl stratus
The microphones would still mostly be limited. You wouldn't get huge notice till you get to like... the mics that you see some high end streamers use.
But it probably lends to why NASA uses TS in some of their ambitions.
Since I'm assuming their audio equipment is probably insane so they can take full advantage.
Now I will agree with your friend that TS is aesthetically very...
Boring.
For your average OW player and user - Discord is just easier and makes sense.
The server voice issues are minimal and usually just require a refresh or relocation of your channel, and their DDoS protection is pretty solid.
Minus that first day of EU breaking barriers where discord fucked off for like 30 minutes.
karmic grotto
You mean TS 3 vs Discord now?
pearl stratus
Yeah, just about why OW would bring in TS
Like its an internal thing, definitely.
Security alone is a good reason since you literally have 0 privacy protection on Discords end overall.
karmic grotto
And also for other things
TS, the new version I think
You can record voices separately
pearl stratus
Yeah its just been such a long disconnect for people that TS is like.. a contenders player.
If you haven't heard about them in a while, they're bad.
karmic grotto
And that's why, with the 3 year deal
It will be great since owl will sponsor teamspeak
it's a win-win
earnest leaf
Isn't TS overall more stable and secure?
pearl stratus
Stability definitely, since they'll (I assume) be setting it up internally.
Since the client is standalone to be built into your own network, and not rely on outside servers.
And a condom with holes poked in it is more secure than Discord.
Discord is like a shitty parade that just throws your data around like it was candy.
Though to be fair most every company that you can't control the product directly sells all your data.
jagged crater
TS for pros
discord for everyone else
cuz privacy + being able to control your own server is important
wouldnt want discord to randomly go down during a match, at least with TS you can try and fix it yourself
sand violet
Even pro teams use both
I know of teams that have a discord they use and then a backup teamspeak for emergencies
Upper t2 team that is ^
sand violet
Yes but discord is preferred among teams
So you use discord, which is preference
Then have a stable backup just in case
mint flower
karmic grotto
WAIT
sullen berry
Can i get a HELL YEA
But at this point, I'll take overwatch retirements with a grain of salt now
karmic grotto
mint flower
HELL YEA
pearl stratus
Things I said 8 hours ago.
he never said he wasn't playing.
he said he was no longer playing with Samsung.
celest spear
^
karmic grotto
Academy team is huge
pearl stratus
Which is why I expected the Academy/OWL move.
celest spear
I wasn't sure where he would go after SMS, but an academy team is a huge step up
sullen berry
Figuring out if eternal academy has announced their roster yet
gentle shuttle
karmic grotto
Eternal academy
They should put sparkle as academy player for the time being3
Even if he sometimes scrims with his team, he still has to have playtime against pro during owl stage 1 and 2
pearl stratus
I like the concept of playing double main tank to really restrict you.
nosmite + smex is more likely unless language is that bad.
And then in week 3
You bench Smex for Hanbin
And go nosmite hanbin
raw ermine
that starting 6 isn't too shabby
since the first match is paris v toronto, who do you think will win?
both hasve superstar dps line, decent support lines, and decent tank lines
somber bay
celest spear
Feb 8th at 1 PM EST
raw ermine
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I wish it played year round but that wouldn't be good for the players
pearl stratus
Toronto should be able to handle
Paris pretty easily.
Unless my prophecy starts very early.
raw ermine
I was worried paris would buy way more EM player and crush us day 1
trim shadow
Si
Same season length
Same game length
But only 2 days and 2 games per every week or 2 weeks depending on teams
raw ermine
I wish it was friday saturday not saturday sunday cause i can't stay up sunday
tropic herald
Sunday games are mid day though?
celest spear
The schedule lists all the games in their local timezones
Ex: New York, Washington DC, and Philadelphia are in Eastern Standard time, Dallas and Houston are in Central, all the California teams are in pacific, etc.
trim shadow
All games are time dependent
So if ur EST like ne
Me*
Ur screwed and blessed
Most pacific games are either in the morning
Or like 2 hours behind u so
Itll be 12 am
And a game started at 8 pm
pearl stratus
However they've gotten really fast and uploading it so provided you don't screw yourself you want watch vods easily enough.
balmy wolf
So they only operate on CST, PST, and EST?
Like are the China games gonna be in American mornings or noon?
mint flower
No the Chinese games will play at convenient times for the Chinese audiences
balmy wolf
No I got that
but relative to china time
would it be at CST mornings or noon cause China night =/= American night
this is under the impression that the games are like at 8PM for them
trim shadow
I pray owl gets faster at uploading match vods instead of highlights
mint flower
The China games will be in the early morning if you're EST
trim shadow
I will miss about all of the seoul china london games
I think the seoul homestands are between 3 am to 5 am for me
balmy wolf
You think they're gonna stick to this format for season 4? Cause I'm personally not a fan
pearl stratus
I don't think they give a fuck whether or not the average joe is a fan.
They care if the thousands of people available for homestands are able to go at realistic times.
So no, its not going to change.
Unless you'd be okay with like... a Dallas homestand game being at 3am to make it easier for someone in Korea to view.
balmy wolf
Let me rephrase; I just want more games
not like season 2 or as much as season 1 but like something in the middle
pearl stratus
It's the same as Season 2, they're just overlapping
It's done in less days because you can have multiple regions per day playing
Which gives the players more downtime between matches
Which is better for them
pearl stratus
Judging by Jake saying he'd be doing lots of travelling casters look to be following teams.
Whereas the desk desk will be stagnant.
trim shadow
So wait will it work like radio host for nfl teams wherr one person cast a certain teams games
And would desk broadcast from one area or the different cities is what i wanna know
Cause some weekends will look like
Homestand in philly
Homestand in guangzhou in the morning
upper niche
We don't know for sure, but the expectation at this stage is they're going to send one of the 'A' team to each location, and then use local casters alternating.
So say there were 3 matches on Saturday and 3 matches on Sunday in... I dunno, Guanzhou, they might send Uber/MrX, and they'd do say match 2 on Saturday, with some locals doing matches 1 and 3, and then they'd do matches 1 and 3 on Sunday, with the locals doing the middle match. Something like that.
Budgets are somewhat tight for Season 3, I've heard a lot of mentions of where they're tightening spending, and noones making money off the league at the moment.
trim shadow
Thats been known since
Beginning of s2 that most of teams arent making theyre money back
And are profiting from merch and jersey sales
upper niche
Franchises were sold on - and the agreements have written in to them - a profit share return from things like broadcast rights, merchandise deals, events etc. Thing is, they're just not happening like it was sold to the franchise owners that it would.
full wigeon
pearl stratus
No one is meant to make money off the league.
At this point.
Which I think is an interesting thing that most people don't actually consider.
We've literally been told, upfront and since day one, that the profit sharing model doesn't begin until 2021.
It baffles me that people are still confused by that.
pearl stratus
Right now, if memory serves, teams receive 50% of value from skins purchases and merch, and full value from their homestand tickets/merch. Once the profit sharing goes live they also receive percentage of profit from all marketing etc (like the Teamspeak deal)
trim shadow
I agree with most of what jacob is saying
Especially about San fransicso to the point i believe there homestands will be terrible
Or close to it
pearl stratus
God we need better looking people to be the face of e-sports.
Everyone we have looks like they're not allowed within 100 yards of a playground.
karmic grotto
?
balmy wolf
You're not wrong
Hence why we got Jake and Custa as our new faces
Which I'm down for
pearl stratus
Jacob Wolf just kind of reminds me of a skinny Jared from Subway.
trim shadow
Theres also emily and micah so they kinda make esports looks..appealing?
pearl stratus
They're not faces, I would say.
I'm talking people with primary public interaction.
Like when Houston sends Jake/Rawkus for interviews, etc.
Soe/Emily/Micah are all stadium personalities
Though I do respect that they could abuse Micah so much more than they do.
And I appreciate that they're letting her just do her thing in the field she built.
I'd personally lean on her dad so much more.
grave latch
yeah also wait a minute are you saying that super isn't the cutest man you've ever seen
pearl stratus
That's more team based than league based. The league itself hasn't done the best job of doing really public faces.
I think this year will be when they define it.
Jake and Custa both are very well spoken and connected to the league itself, not just a single team anymore.
I think they'd be smart to lean in on Danny, because he's got personality.
Beyond that its pretty much just always been Jeff Jeff Jeff.
And while Jeff is great, you need more.
trim shadow
Like sinatraa dogman babybay
pearl stratus
Dogman is too stupid, sadly.
Sinatraa yes.
Sinatraa is actually your basic 'redemption' story for the league when you think of his personality change going into the league, and winning his awards.
Picking up all those attributes we look to in our sports stars.
Humble, etc, etc.
Super is better than Dogman, because while Super can be very stupid and silly
he also knows when to pull it back and be professional.
balmy wolf
Babybay is just straight chad
If you wanted just a face, Benbest would be the go to but he's really just a face
pearl stratus
Benbest would be a good regional face for his area.
Since ideally you'd want a few per geograghical region.
But yeah, Benbest is a pretty boy and a half.
I'd like to see them do a few more superstar interviews this year too.
Like when Micah did eventually bring her dad in and interviewed him before and after watching the games.
It's a good way to connect to the normie portion of your audience.
Because most everyone knows Lavar Burton, or their parents do in the case of young kids.
hot heart
Benbest Kreygasm
raw ermine
Sideshow shaving his eyebrows doesn't help the situation.
Also apparently Haksal, according to akshon esports, has dashing good looks according to Korean fan(girls?)
So yeah
balmy wolf
Pffffft
Haksal?
I mean...
That's like putting weight to Fissure calling himself the most handsome main tank ever
I genuinely think the hottest south korean in OWL is probably SBB
trim shadow
Honestly
Its hard to tell which korean is considered
Good looking in there home nation
The same goes for korean girls
balmy wolf
I thought it would be kinda obvious
Given that they manufacture k-pop people to the point where there is a literal surgical mold for what they deem hot
trim shadow
But even then
balmy wolf
And I think the closest to that mold would be SBB
Or Jjonak
boy be swole
neck dummy thick
trim shadow
Ur everyday korean and a k pop korean doesn’t differentiate for me who looks good in korean culture
Yea ur face is smoother but she has a plumper lip so ill take her
I would imagine someone like Carpe Would be dogged down by korean girls or pokpo
karmic grotto
korean fan girls?
trim shadow
Si
karmic grotto
?
trim shadow
Well actually idk about pokpo he has the features but hes got acne i think
balmy wolf
I mean; in general you want people who are aethetically pleasing to the eye in nation and abroad. I can see the argument that some girls wouldn't be into benbest cause he's too big or whatever else but there would be little argument for him being unattractive. Someone like Haksal or whoever else may have traits that are deemed hot but if you want the whole package, then you go to your cultures standard of beauty. Americans like dummy thick and that's why we like Rawkus. Koreans have surgically made their own kpop stars so just looking at the mold and finding the person in the league with the closest amount of similarity
trim shadow
I would say
Most Americans like a little plump on there womens yes
I think the way it works nowadays in most asian cultures is that they are EXTREMELY attracted to american men
Something along the lines American men are more muscular and etc
balmy wolf
Carefule there mate; you make it sound like fetishizing which ain't a good place to stand
balmy wolf
That's like saying american guys like asian girls cause they're slim and typically more submissive
trim shadow
Its technically not a fetish? If i heard it off a interview
At least for Japaneese women
And thats from the more older japaneese olden to the around my age that theyre very curious and attracted to male men
So i would think korean females will be attracted to someone like carpe or someone like hell dogman
sand violet
Male men
balmy wolf
I wouldn't put that much weight in it; You wording it that way makes it sound like fetishization; It's like white girls who date black guys cause they want the stereotypes they heard. It doesn't treat people like individuals. Like yea you can hear people's opinions but if you told me that korean girls thought someone like hotba was hot and wanted to sit on his face, I say more power to them but you can never take it that they speak for the culture or people as a whole is what I mean rather than actual fetish.
trim shadow
But if you select a certain group of korean females and have them vote wouldnt that give insight into what could considered attractive in korean culture?
Its like when u line up American women black and white theyll all say yes i want a man with money or A Sass master
balmy wolf
I've never heard of sass master but okay.
They are individuals with their own thoughts on opinions but are not indicative of the entire country of individual. You saying "If you line up American women and ask what they want, they'd say a man with money or a sass master" implies that you are speaking for the whole populace of american women of which aren't just black and white
trim shadow
It was hypothetical
But over the years the trend for american women has been usually money first
Not as bad as it was in the 90s
So i would imagine with k-pop and the harsh lifestyle that brings
And the fact apperantly plastic surgey is considered a litteral bloody gift
Id imagine beauty is top tier in korean relationships or culture
So if im@just gonna shovel names out
Not erster since hes embracing American culture
But someone like Profit carpe haksal MAYBE seominsoo
Actually tbh seo looks kinda derpy
balmy wolf
wat
pearl stratus
No one mentioned him but:
Rascal
Rascal is a bit of a pretty boy, and has had boy band offers
pearl stratus
https://www.koreaboo.com/stories/pro-gamer-rascal-invited-audition-big-hit-entertainment/ from a quick google
sand violet
im not gay but if rascal asked me out I wouldnt say no...
trim shadow
God dammit how did i forget rascal
regal glacier
@sand violet lmao
dawn vale
Kpop fans are scary though
trim shadow
Yea kinda
karmic grotto
LOL
slender lance
Did bumper ever get signed to another team
balmy wolf
No cause he's not hot
mint flower
Lol
quartz jetty
Hey all -- I'm a journalist at The Washington Post. I spoke to Rawkus and Muma from the Houston Outlaws to get their advice for others trying to get better at OW. Here's what they said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/tips/two-overwatch-league-pros-provide-meta-tips-how-take-down-mei/
They talked about main-ing as Moira and Orisa (if you're a fan of either)
balmy wolf
Hey Mr. journalist guy
That was last meta
Moira is very likely not meta anymore given the recent patch
bronze scroll
snillo just left fusion, which means there is a new open spot for them to sign somebody
karmic grotto
A main tank
bronze scroll
lets hope so
limber pine
little silo
I guess you can killo the snillo
celest spear
minor flame
Do you think that teams can actually succeed better to playing comps and strategies revolving around their own strengths rather than meta
Most teams def didnt do that for goats
The 2 teams that succeeded that deviated from the meta were like what, Shanghai and Clockwork
But do they count if both the teams comps became meta afterwards?
karmic grotto
Some part
2-2-2 was a mistake
what they could have done
Was either letting there by permanent something of either 2 tanks, 2 supports or 2 dps
other 4 slots are free
raw ermine
If 222 was gone we could have had the most putrid compositions know ever
Like triple barrier or quad tank bunket
balmy wolf
I’m more on the mindset of hero bans
karmic grotto
Why hero bans hasn't been introduced?
I'd rather watch creative comps on the spot that playing one meta
One meta comps are boring
raw ermine
They probably want to take it 1 step at a time
raw ermine
They don't want to throw 222 and bans at us at the same time
balmy wolf
I hope hero bans come for season 4 since we will have 35 heroes at that point
karmic grotto
only thing we get close was 222
raw ermine
Yeah
celest spear
I'd have either hero bans or 2-2-2, not both
karmic grotto
I vote hero bans
Automatically I ban Bastion
If, for example
OWL had hero bans
Game would be more enjoyable
balmy wolf
Do you want one team banning one hero each or what?
raw ermine
They would. It would put any interesting twist
I think it is 1 per team, so 2 in total per map
balmy wolf
Oh per map? not per game?
raw ermine
That's how it was done a while back in a hero ban tournament
No cause different maps have different strategies
balmy wolf
you say that but goats was run basically on every map and double shield is the same way
raw ermine
Well
There were different variants of goats and different maps had different heroes that work better on that map. Winston was better on numbani, for example . I am not sure how they did it in the tournament, but I remember seeing Zarya and sombra being banned on numbani.
limber pine
raw ermine
Yeah
karmic grotto
wel
well
but this was before balance patch
and Sigma
So..
Now, if you would ban heroes
Only the playable heroes would be played
celest spear
I remember that tourney. People either banned GOATs counters or banned Brigitte. If Brig was banned, quad tank would be played
karmic grotto
Now, use that format
in nowadays patch
quad tank wouldn't be played since the nerfs
celest spear
Quad tank can't even be ran with 222 lock.
But I do agree with giving bans and protects another go with 222 lock and see how that works
pearl stratus
Hero bans can't work with too limited of a ban pool.
It works in LoL because they have a reddit tard fest full of heroes, most of which are garbage
But its the raw number that matters.
Also they have duplicates.
minor flame
Hero bans would be cancerous at worst and just unfun at best imo
karmic grotto
If would not
Mei would be banned
Reaper would be banned
Orisa as well
Sigma maybe too
Rein and Zarya, Winston and D.va would have playtime
Tracer, Genji, Widow, Mccree
balmy wolf
tbh if you wanna affect the meta the most; you're more inclined to ban the tanks
karmic grotto
Exactly
Those are heroes most of us like to be played
Not slow ass comp
It barely moves
celest spear
Twitter
jagged crater
best announcement they can make at this point is avastcon
karmic grotto
lmao
another signing
they gonna rebrand
from yellow colors, to p light purple florida vies
jagged crater
change the name to Miami Mayhem, it sounds magnitudes better
and matches with Miami Vice colors
jagged crater
not much to rebrand since they had so little rep to begin with
nowhere to go but up from a marketing standpoint
karmic grotto
I see
pearl stratus
Random in fairness
But double shield right now does not move slow
Unless you're in a really shitty SR.
And at that point you're not good enough to deserve fun, because you're trash.
Beyond that shields last like.. 2 seconds each
Mei wall lasts like 3-4.
Which is actually pretty fun.
raw ermine
They need to nerf multi freeze, and halt range for the game to speed up
limber pine
they just need to nerf mei's 150 long range head shots
jagged crater
nah that's fine, she'll feel more like a dps that way
the freeze on the otherhand, less CC would be better
raw ermine
that too
raw ermine
I feel like if we make the ball freezing repeatedly thing not possible, then we will be good
wall is lower on the priorities
jagged crater
the freeze makes playing tank very unfun
raw ermine
if she is still too good after the freeze nerfs, then yeah
I feel like it's wrong that grav has a shorter range then pull
pearl stratus
Wall doesn't need to be weaker itself.
It just needs to be one singular unit.
The columns idea makes the concept of killing her wall much harder than it needs to be
Because you need to kill at least two pillars, at a minimum, to give every unit freedom through the wall.
Which means at base it always has 800 health.
But you also then need focused fire on the pillars themselves.
jagged crater
i think sep pillars is nice, encourages player to focus on pillars
pearl stratus
I mean most of the time no.
It just means the wall will last its full duration.
No matter what.
Which is a bad precedence to set when you're nerfing every other barrier in all SR's.
jagged crater
full duration but effectively a wall with an opening is almost useless
unles you use wall for LOSing heals and immortality field
which i think is smart use of walls
pearl stratus
You're using wall, right now, to separate people.
With very little overall counterplay to a well placed wall.
Since you need to break so many pillars to save your tank etc.
On offense I've burned through a Rein shield and a Rein before the wall went down enough to help him.
jagged crater
im ok with nerfing its HP, but keep it pillars
or increase the size of the pillars slightly, not a singular unit
it's what makes the wall unique
and dont think it's all that OP with some smaller tweaks
raw ermine
wall as 1 block sounds good to me
it would be better for low ranks than for high ranks, but a buff for both
celest spear
Reduce wall to 4 blocks instead of 5 and lower its HP
jagged crater
what if mei hp to 200?
she's got such a strong CC and decent dmg now, 200 hp to put her with the rest seems fine now
jagged crater
She got some extra meat, only blizz reasoning I can get
raw ermine
ik that, but is that worth 50 extra hp tho?
raw ermine
You have a genetically modified soldier, armour on torb and brig, a cyborgian martial artist, and 1 more I think
and then mei
raw ermine
is that why tracer is 150hp, for the opposite reason?
raw ermine
baby dva is 19 so yeah
jagged crater
If dva was fat, hp would be questionable
mint flower
My guess for the Florida announcement would be QoQ
pearl stratus
Pharah is weird to me. Because I think she could use some armor or something. But then pharmercy could get insane. But she's so reliant on the mercy.
raw ermine
yeah
she shouldn't be that reliant
no character should be
she is lucky its only mercy, or she could be like bastion
needs an entire composition
mint flower
I also prefer tizi over bumper
raw ermine
There are 2 types of ppl
"PHILLY NEEDS A NEW MT BADLY LIKE LITERALLY OR ELSE THEY WILL IMPLODE AND SADO WILL THROW HIMSELF INTO THE ILIOS WELL EVERY FIGHT"
and
"actuallllyyyyy, sado isn't thattttttt bad, you see, philly last year was badd in general, not sado's fault :P"
lol
hidden vault
I mean philly does need a new MT and it wasn't entirely sado's fault
wraith quarry
mint flower
hidden vault
Why was it tho?
hot heart
@raw ermine true
hidden vault
Rights
raw ermine
Idk what he expected tho
mint flower
yea lmao
mint flower
hidden vault
Has effect scooped so low?
balmy wolf
Has he ever not been low
raw ermine
Yikes
sand violet
Not wrong tho fuck overwatch
hidden vault
Ever since senika?
mint flower
jagged crater
OW is a test of mental strength for real
no other game tilts a person like OW
and effect clearly doesnt have the mental strength for OW so it's fair i guess
karmic grotto
^
Not sure if people have done studies
But if you look what type of game OW is
It can be very tilting
Some people tilt quietly
others slam their desk
kuch kuch Samito
raw ermine
He doesn't tilt bro. He is a reform streamer.
stuck musk
I think league definitely is a contender for tilting
I dont tilt much when playing OW, only when going on a losing streak
But when my first league game is 30 mins and a loss, it just feels so bad man.
But the wins are that much better because of the time investment
mint flower
Twitter
limber pine
Rip mistakes :/
hot heart
Pepehands
jagged crater
thought he retired, surprised he's stil goin!
rare magnet
So WTF happen to Bumper? Did he become a buddhist monk? He was one of the most impactful and most fan favorite players of season 2 and now he's just gone.
pearl stratus
Impactful is a stretch like his waist line.
raw ermine
what team?
celest spear
We don't know, but we do have confirmation (via Sideshow) that he has found a team
raw ermine
well
Possibly fusion, shanghai, and thats it
maybe he goes back to runaway
or best case he is resigned by Vancouver
rare magnet
oh bumper shanghai that sounds nice
pearl stratus
Shanghai have already denied the rumor.
And it was even added in that they denied it "despite Bumper being very cheap"
mint flower
when did they deny the rumor
tropic herald
Probably started expensive but there’s no demand for him so he lowered his contract
lyric cliff
Zunba is no longer in OWL
Also Sinatraa got robbed for Esports player of the year, change my mind.
trim shadow
Then bumper philly
Oh fuck
God say it aint so
Bumper new york maybe
That would be mano Bumper Bianca Hotba Whoru SBB Libero Nenne jjonak mandu Anamo
Thats..quite the nasty roster and if new york are changing from passive to aggressive
This could be the break through
lyric cliff
Rip Zunba, he will be missed.
hot heart
That Vancouver sounds like a shock killer
@trim shadow
Honestly if that happened
I wouldnt be surprised if it just went 4-0 for a whole stage or two
echo quest
@lyric cliff who won?
I would say Knight9 for League. He willed his garbage team to the gauntlet and won mvp but lost in 5 game match against the previous year’s winners of worlds
patent yoke
hidden vault
How come the streamers can join several teams for open div?
karmic grotto
Because it's open for everyone except if its said otherwise
hidden vault
Then this is a troll?
raw ermine
yeah the page looks bs
sullen berry
@hidden vault post seems bad, but thanks for sharing until new florida logo is really a thing
hidden vault
yeah
trim shadow
At least let the valiant one be fake But then again The valiant had put out a tweet saying overwatch leauge stop leaking
And in the post by the leauge it showed the blue and yellow logo
sullen berry
this time last year
trim shadow
That blue hangzhou looks pretty good tbh
tropic herald
The LAV colors make sense bc of other LA teams that have that same color scheme
Although personally the green and gold i like better
Also does this mean they are finally Miami Mayhem?
sand violet
I heard florida mayhem got denied for changing their skin colors to miami vice colors
of black, neon blue, and hot pink
which is extremely disappointing if true
since yellow and red is dog shit colors and miami vice is an iconic color for the miami heat
raw ermine
makes sense
raw ermine
edison erster is nutty
upper niche
Valiant are changing to a teal/purple/IDKW colour?
tropic herald
Valiant are changing to light blue and yellow instead of dark green and yello
hidden vault
That post isn't verified
gaunt acorn
the colours are still real
for valiant
https://i.imgur.com/4MlBrZM.png
mayhem is this, i believe
jagged crater
Who's winning
jagged crater
Who's the face of OWL now that Jake is gone?
jagged crater
As a player
I'd say so since he was the most vocal player
He's great with media too
raw ermine
the zunba thank you video made me so damn sad and idk why. I'm not even that big of a fan of seoul but it made me sad.
jagged crater
I'm sad cuz he's been around so long
Always disheartening seeing veterans of the game leaving
But you know it's inevitable
tropic herald
Halo leaked GiG to LAV
jagged crater
Who dat
tropic herald
No clue
hearty remnant
Do any of u guys know when BlitzChung will be unbanned? I tried searching it up but I don't see any specific date
mint flower
Nobody:
Empathy: no clue
jagged crater
Hearthstone dude?
tropic herald
But I understand why they are doing those colors
LA: bc of UCLA and the Chargers
Mayhem: probably the closest they could get to the neon pink blue and black
celest spear
@hearty remnant Early April. His ban was originally a year but was shortened to six months. He was banned (I wanna say) October 6th or so.
hearty remnant
@celest spear Thank ya
lyric cliff
The new "funny number" in the Overwatch community is no longer "69" or "420" it is "0.25"...
supple prism
was 2
hot heart
0.25?
hidden vault
Meaning?
hidden vault
I'm asking too lol
gaunt acorn
@hot heart @hidden vault kephrii notoriously hackusating a ton of players in the past week (the majority of which are innocent)
watching clips of their gameplay in 0.25 speed using the in-game replay viewer
this has become a meme
tropic herald
“I don’t know man that looks a little sus”
hot heart
Kephrii pepelaugh
hidden vault
Hackusating meaning?
gaunt acorn
accusing them of hacking
hidden vault
Hmm
hot heart
5head
upper niche
Kephrii is known for being level headed, constructive and kind to others.
... wait no, the other thing.
trim shadow
He accused gator of hacking because he locked onto a moira or something with orisa?
And it was extremely funny
sullen berry
no
it's just a vocal majority who will meme his random stints and off-character behaviour
like when he was living in south korea during his contenders run
he got dominoes there and thought he was buying oreo donuts as sides
https://twitter.com/Kephrii/status/1069091957270429696?s=19
They were squid ink rings
karmic grotto
That's what he gets for being an ass towards Redshell
hidden vault
I totally would try it
sullen berry
he got that feeling it was going to be loaded with sugar, would be put off even though it'd probably taste good for a seafood snack
hidden vault
make sense
hot heart
Esports discussion
trim shadow
LMFAO GET FUCKED KEPHRII
jagged crater
kephrii was starting to be liked by the community when he traveled to korea, why he go back down the rabbit hole?
tropic herald
.25
ashen sedge
By the way
I think you can see Florida’s new logo if you scroll down on their team page on the overwatch league site?
sullen berry
@hidden vault so I guess theyre just doing a bad job of keeping it together?
hot heart
@pearl stratus ForsenCD Nice
hidden vault
@sullen berry which comment I made was that reply in relation
I don't quite recall
The logo one?
sullen berry
yeah don't worry, it's mostly erasing my doubts
that conversation was from an instagram post
so I had my concerns expecting leaks there
hidden vault
Hmm okay
dawn vale
no one is making money playing ow right now. sad to see great players get left in the dust because it's just not financially worth it anymore.
feral wing
why are teams getting new colors again?
especially valiant, I loved their colors
the new sky blue color is
idk it doesnt mix as well with the gold as the green did
hidden vault
I'm sure mayhem need new colours
balmy wolf
Mayhem needs a better org or shell out for better players
hidden vault
I heard Val wanted to follow UCLA colours
But mehh
Since they changed the whole team might as well
karmic grotto
Blizzard is so trash
they literally have China monies
Still underdeveloped esports scene except owl stuff
They have heavy sponsors
league prize is 1.5 million
??????????
pure plover
DOes any1 know of any orgs or leagues for Eu around 2k-3.5k pls dm me 🙂
jagged crater
what are the odds we get a new hero before OWL starts?
we're already pretty late since sigma came out 5 months ago. Due to OW2 priorities, hero release has slowed down
balmy wolf
We're guaranteed only one hero release until OW2 which is likely in blizzcon 2020 or just a little after
jagged crater
ooof that's a potential long way to go 😮
trim shadow
Already predicted by season 5 with the way blizzard is acting either ow itself will die first or owl@will completely fall apart
karmic grotto
It self destructed
Apex was peak Overwatch
Then blizzard wanted to have monopoly
And that's what you get
No sponsors
Blizzard approved sponsors
T2 not getting much financial support
This is embarassing
AND STILL, THEY HAVE CHINESE INVESTORS, WHERE IS THE MONEY?
trim shadow
Into someone pockets in the higher echelons of blizzard 
And increasing the payout to od by what a couple 100? Yea that’ll definitely get the kicker rising
Reworking ptp into a tournament format and combining na into 1 single region and taking the restrictions off of region lock@players
Thatll work
karmic grotto
They're smart but not so smart
They think we don't notice
Simply said:
Merge NA = less prize money **==**400k more for OWL -----> 1.1 > 1.5 million dollars
upper niche
The prize pools for OWL as a 'professional' esport/sport are pretty embarassing though
Like... with the figures they have, they shouldn't exactly be shouting it from a rooftop and making a big deal of it. It's not that much.
celest spear
@karmic grotto Chinese companies own about 10% of Activision-Blizzard, where as Riot is 100% owned by Tencent, a Chinese company.
celest spear
If anything, League's success probably is due to Riot having easy access to China and the Pacific
balmy wolf
And the fact that it's f2p with lots of replay value
celest spear
^
balmy wolf
If like OW became f2p with the release of OW 2 I think there would be way more traffic to the game
But that's fucking cancer for all ranks
karmic grotto
Cheaters everywhere
balmy wolf
I was thinking more throwers and people making only character specific accounts
widows especially "This is my widow only account" and it'll just be fucking awful
trim shadow
Tencent somehow knows how to run esports better then blizzard
And tencent has a foot in everything remotely called a game
At this point f2p seems like the last resort
It might backfire like csgo has but the game would bring in more aspiring pros and community
But at this point
Overwatch has kind of
A bad rep?
jagged crater
blizz not ready to f2p ow yet
trim shadow
Itll probably officially kill ow if it does go f2p but what other option is there
dawn vale
the game needs to go f2p
trim shadow
Game is on maximum@life support