Not even 100k viewers for finals. Damn
#esports-discussion
uneven owl
naive stump
Who’s in the finals
balmy wolf
china usa
tropic herald
OW has the most views on twitch rn
naive stump
Nice who’s up
uneven owl
Of course Overwatch has most views
upper hawk
Yay shameless advertising
balmy wolf
usa 1-0
halcyon fox
us took map 1
tropic herald
It’s USA v China
balmy wolf
ft3
naive stump
Nice
halcyon fox
china won't be going down without a fight though i dont think
upper hawk
imagine being a walking billboard 
naive stump
First time South Korea hasn’t won
tropic herald
SK choked
balmy wolf
they didnt choke tf
halcyon fox
their dps did
naive stump
I mean did they ever play haksal on doom
balmy wolf
they won 3-1
halcyon fox
choi was the only sk player of note imo
upper hawk
he subbed for carpe a couple times
naive stump
Yeah I’m pretty sure he was
lethal plank
i think he was
naive stump
Did haksal you play doom
trim shadow
Dave carely?
upper hawk
yeah they used him for doom
trim shadow
Who is that
raw ermine
yeah
naive stump
Thank god
balmy wolf
no they put haksal on lucio
raw ermine
lmao they are spamming boomer
upper hawk
they put haksal on torb 
naive stump
I mean why would they have architect on doom when there is a better player
halcyon fox
"youuuu"
balmy wolf
same reason super wasnt playing in grand finals
lethal plank
Lol T-Mobile
halcyon fox
t mobile soulja boy
upper hawk
Architect wasnt that bad from what i saw. He was picking up kills
naive stump
I mean super is more of a rein player
sullen berry
I want to see some big if true rein Qs
halcyon fox
corey outplayed architect imo
halcyon fox
watch the justice's stonks go up after this
naive stump
When USA beat South Korea wait isn’t that illegal
halcyon fox
corey
naive stump
If Hanzo becomes meta next year dang Corey is going to have a play ground
upper hawk
yeah for sure no ones playing better right now
halcyon fox
china diving again
opal spruce
if this works........... lol jk
upper hawk
and yeah its just him...but WSH will be much better next season
not based on just him alone
not saying theyll make a run...but better at least lol
halcyon fox
i hope they do
naive stump
I’m worried about the glads dps
halcyon fox
oof
upper hawk
glads are screwed honestly unless they make big pick ups
forest raven
USA USA USA 
raw ermine
woowwww
halcyon fox
corey rolling tracer 😄
upper hawk
they lost Hydration...surefour and void still free agents
worn hornet
If Justice do anything other than build around Corey for 2020 they deserve a winless season
upper hawk
oof
halcyon fox
yikes eileen
inland pawn
using 2 ults to lose a fight smh
halcyon fox
he got stoned
forest raven
Kobe
worn hornet
Space has the best rock throws in the world
worn hornet
Before this started I didn't even think it was possible to get them that far
wise thistle
You guys remember when sigma first released and everyone acted like choi was terrible at it 😂😂😂
halcyon fox
super on rein????!?!??!
wise thistle
His rein wrecked sk earlier
halcyon fox
true
halcyon fox
he almost has shatter so
inland pawn
eileen is fucking
worn hornet
rock star
sullen mist
Lesss gooo
outer goblet
I can't believe this! THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING IT!!!!!
upper hawk
YES SIRRRRRR KKona
forest raven
inland pawn
KkonaW
forest raven
HELL YEAH BROTHER
worn hornet
This feels like the end of Rocky IV
halcyon fox
holy crap
lethal plank
LET'S GO DOOD
worn hornet
:puke:
lethal plank
Lul
upper hawk
T H I C C
sullen mist
This is destiny bois. Blizz rooting for China while the free world is showing up
sweet scaffold
sullen mist
The fate of the world on display at Blizzcon
outer goblet
USA!
balmy wolf
capitalism striking fear into communism
inland bluff
One more game let's get it
outer goblet
OH YEAH!
balmy wolf
jinmu plays doom like he's smurfing in masters
forest raven
worn hornet
RIP
inland bluff
They were like 4600 sr and we got nailed
jagged crater
did u tell him he's cute?
balmy wolf
but his doom is questionable
upper hawk
its like cold war sporting events between Russia and US....except yknow. Less ppl care
inland bluff
No did not know much about him at the time, found out watching him play in overwatch league
balmy wolf
Corey on widow
inland bluff
It was before chengdu and stuff got big
sullen mist
Corey MVP?
inland bluff
I think for now corey not over yet
balmy wolf
Eileen is hacking the shit out of everyone
theyre stream sniping
know super is on ball
fuck nbm
wide herald
Someone get silver scrapes ready, it's time for a reverse sweep!
inland bluff
Eileen sombra is dirty
balmy wolf
eileen is drunk
worn hornet
I think Eileen picked the wrong target there for the hack
inland bluff
Welp Eileen proved me wrong
balmy wolf
or swapping
inland bluff
Haha
lethal plank
Eileen throwing
sullen mist
Eileen is confused
balmy wolf
i thought he was just gonna emp
worn hornet
initiating with an orisa hack instead of bastion
lethal plank
China wants a free china
balmy wolf
not use a singular hack
inland bluff
He should have use emp earlier
But got scared because moth was hiding with immortality field
inland bluff
Yes but he second guessed so it did matter
balmy wolf
emp breaks sig shield so just run thru orisa shield
halcyon fox
it's ult o clock
worn hornet
emp inbound
balmy wolf
sinatara not playing enough doom parkour
halcyon fox
if eileen doesn't go for doomfist they've lost this point
balmy wolf
fucked up his bounce
inland bluff
That one was better
inland bluff
Their ult economy has been much better this map so far besides first point
balmy wolf
pharamercy big
upper hawk
that emp
inland bluff
Kinda supercharger was that
halcyon fox
that sinatraa hack
upper niche
is this even close? :/
balmy wolf
bruh
halcyon fox
ahaha whoops
sullen mist
Eileen throwing
balmy wolf
eileen needs a vod review
inland bluff
It was now we rolling
inland bluff
See what happens
forest raven
Switch
balmy wolf
eileen needs multiple vod reviews
velvet scarab
he switched
balmy wolf
and someone yelling at him
lethal plank
Eileen confirmed gold rank
sullen mist
Eileen one trick reaper get off sombra
inland bluff
Space big ult coming
inland bluff
One more fight to cap with over 1 minute
balmy wolf
SPACE MVP
inland bluff
Rawkus heals op
halcyon fox
speen!
inland bluff
Oh wow, what a comeback by China
upper hawk
omfg lol
sullen mist
Saved by rocket punch
halcyon fox
fuck, that corey play was heroic
halcyon fox
yee
inland bluff
Let's go
sullen mist
Letssss gooooo
lethal plank
Huge
upper hawk
THATS OUR NEW TANK BOIS LETS GOOOOO
opal spruce
that was a 10000000IQ ult by space
upper hawk
inland bluff
Everyone playing so well rn, It's crazy
balmy wolf
rawkus settled down
sullen mist
Space best OT in OWL
inland bluff
All them years of experience r paying off
outer goblet
LET'S GOOOOOOO!!!
balmy wolf
he was dying waaaay too much 1st map
inland bluff
First point hold easy
opal spruce
corey will be the mvp, but you can make a big argument for space
raw ermine
Yeah
sullen mist
Yes
raw ermine
corey has been insane
inland bluff
Corey for sure rn
halcyon fox
yeah
sullen mist
China silver meta
inland bluff
Can't go wrong with either anyways or even sinatraa would not be mad
upper hawk
run winston into a bastion
inland bluff
I mean it works
If played correctly
Tanks take dmg use bubble, then dva takes some pressure off while dps goes off
halcyon fox
super and corey, maybe rawkus for man of the match
rare magnet
korean stream is like 3 minutes ahead the regular stream
balmy wolf
primal blade
inland bluff
Rawkus heals especially towards the end of offense were insane
outer goblet
WHAT IS THAT MELODY?!
inland bluff
Good try under 1 minute first point
inland pawn
genji in 2019 LUL
halcyon fox
inorite
balmy wolf
poor genji
inland bluff
Dry push now
inland bluff
Those Space rocks r pinpoint accurate
halcyon fox
corey casually meleeing
rare magnet
i know what happens
inland bluff
Spawn camppp
worn falcon
inland bluff
Yes, love it
sullen mist
Spawn camped like the bronze players they are.
rare magnet
korean stream is ahead and already showed what happened
inland bluff
Sinatraa is known for that from back in the day
forest raven
COREY
frosty shell
3-0 usa this time
balmy wolf
halcyon fox
COREY
balmy wolf
whoooooooo
inland bluff
They used both support ults to move just a little
balmy wolf
USA USA corey corey
inland bluff
It's overrrr
outer goblet
WHAT IS THAT MELODY?!
inland bluff
4v4
halcyon fox
nini jinmu
inland bluff
Common one more fight
sullen mist
GG's bois. Communism loses
inland bluff
Yesssss
forest raven
USA USA USA
inland bluff
Let's get ittttttt, gggsss
halcyon fox
holy fuck
wary jacinth
craggy fox
USA
halcyon fox
what a team
jagged crater
you ess ayy
inland bluff
What a run
lethal plank
USA!
craggy fox
😭
worn hornet
🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
balmy wolf
upper hawk
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo
mint flower
AMURICA
raw ermine
gg
upper niche
Sinaatra's all "What now, where do we go?"
craggy fox
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
novel rune
USA
lethal plank
sullen mist
This team may go down in history. Beat SK TWICE to get here and then 3-0s it
inland bluff
Don't care who gets mvp, as a team they played amazing
supple prism
super, sinatraa, and moth get another trophy
lethal plank
🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
shy nymph
I never really liked watching owl but this world cup was fun to watch
worn hornet
Those 3 have a perfect year
balmy wolf
i wanted to hear more from the players
opal spruce
okay that trophy is amazing
shy nymph
Just wish they can somehow improve the spectator mode
balmy wolf
get this guys ugly tshirt off my screen
jagged crater
Did ksf play
worn hornet
Dogman was doing the catering
halcyon fox
haha
jagged crater
what a stark difference between canada and usa this year damn
shy nymph
didnt korea not get enough practice apparently?
jagged crater
canada usually did well but this year USA is like x10 better
balmy wolf
ayy freshnuts
sullen mist
USA was too strong for anyone this year.
halcyon fox
usa didn't choke this time like they used to
shy nymph
yeah bro I was disappointed canada didnt do so well
upper hawk
i feel bad for Surefour and Felix cuz i like them but screw it. USA DID IT WOOOOOOOOOOo
naive stump
Canada lost because they put their dps players on main tank
raw ermine
USSR USSR USSR
craggy fox
I didn’t get to watch Mexico play 🥺
balmy wolf
halcyon fox
papa
craggy fox
Jeffrey
shy nymph
its finally nice to see western teams winning major tournaments man\
craggy fox
True
halcyon fox
can we get some euro teams in the finals next year
shy nymph
thats all i care about tbh lol
pastel tusk
Crazy that Super and Sinatra are back to back teammate world champions
jagged crater
surprise jeff
wide herald
Apparently KSF is on the team, did he even get to play?
shy nymph
Like I was glad a chinese team won league of legends last year
worn hornet
is it me or did you manage to catch Jeff looking like he was doing his very best to not look at Emily or Soe?
craggy fox
I wanted a North American team to win lol
shy nymph
starcraft last year was a european winner
jagged crater
they might've played ksf in groups?
shy nymph
it feels really nice to see
worn hornet
I saw KSF out a couple times
upper niche
I mean, it gets a bit tiring of watching Korea win eSports or Australia win Commonwealth Games sports ;)))
sullen mist
Feels so good.
upper hawk
DANG OL YESSIR
lethal plank
Lol papa Jeff
upper niche
So I can understand the desire to see someone else win for a chang e:D
shy nymph
yeah obviously lol
raw ermine
Which ones freshnuts?
balmy wolf
the one next to bawlynn
jagged crater
audio?
raw ermine
whos that lol
shy nymph
overwatch 2 sweaters PogChamp
worn hornet
probably Bren
shy nymph
me want
raw ermine
Can I just have a pic with a circle
uneven owl
cant believe South Korea is bronze
raw ermine
thanx
shy nymph
yeah right, their team looks op af I watched highlights of them lol
inland bluff
I mean South Korea won 3x
balmy wolf
halcyon fox
if this isn't corey
inland bluff
They were not as motivated this time around
halcyon fox
fff
inland bluff
U snitch
shy nymph
China felt like they were tilted af and tired
inland bluff
Was not ready to see that
jagged crater
150k mvp
sullen mist
Well deserved. Anyone on team USA could have won it tbh
jagged crater
DOUBLE mvp
inland bluff
Spoilers
raw ermine
Sinatraa????
worn hornet
I think we're getting the producer's mic coming up on stream
balmy wolf
I think Corey should have gotten it honestly
halcyon fox
yeah i heard that too
raw ermine
Should have been corey
balmy wolf
he said
halcyon fox
corey or rawkus
worn hornet
or they just turned this guy's on too early
shy nymph
lmao their cheering tmobile
balmy wolf
YES
worn hornet
Dave's
supple prism
if its sinatraa again
jagged crater
it's popular vote right?
shy nymph
xqc PogChamp
forest raven
This guy has hardcore boomer energy
jagged crater
sinatraa prob more popular so he wins
wide herald
I still say xqc
uneven owl
why is this boomer back
inland bluff
Sinatraa is the most popular player period so should not be suprised
cold bluff
U S A
sullen mist
Lol ash
shy nymph
wtf corey shoulda been
supple prism
called it
jagged crater
lol even sinatraa is like what?
upper hawk
Not Corey or Space?
jagged crater
double mvp
shy nymph
he fuckin showed up lmao
upper hawk
bruh
balmy wolf
god damn the shock core has accomplish so much this year
lethal plank
Rigged
sullen mist
Legit trophy
inland bluff
Sinatraa has been consistent, can't go wrong voting for him
wide herald
I'm disappointed in you guys
shy nymph
yeah probably due to popularity, wasnt he on tv?
jagged crater
from 150k meme to double mvp wtf
supple prism
means he will be most paid
opal spruce
"fan voted" fans are stupid and blind
wide herald
I thought we all agreed on xqc
halcyon fox
i agree with jay
balmy wolf
fucking corey pop the hell off
raw ermine
THANK YOU SINATRAA
supple prism
xqc sucks
lethal plank
Spoiler: Sunatraa confirmed new hero in overwatch 2
sullen mist
Sinatraa straight up calling his teammates respect
upper hawk
lol
novel rune
xqc ftw
shy nymph
NEXT YEAR CANADA !!!
upper niche
Yeah I dunno, I'd have given it to Corey this time.
upper hawk
i think its time to stop doing fan votes
sullen mist
Corey carry
wide herald
Ending blizzcon, there's still WoW going on iirc 🤔
jagged crater
they didnt do it last time
worn hornet
this was the last thing on the schedule
upper niche
Eurovision method eh? 50% jury 50% public vote? 😄
jagged crater
think they only did it first year and xqc won, then they stopped doing it
pearl stratus
People bitched with or without.
inland bluff
Even Sinatraa said it, he thought Corey deserved it , either way just happy they won
balmy wolf
corey is a mad man
shy nymph
paid votes PogChamp
jagged crater
corey is sick boi
uneven owl
now what will reddit say about Aero I wonder?
jagged crater
anything else left?
balmy wolf
also space still showing hes the best western off tank
jagged crater
just closing ceremony now?
inland bluff
Fan usually vote for their favorite players, Suprised xqc did not win mvp haha
shy nymph
I didn't know most of the owl players were from contenders and not in owl
uneven owl
hearthstone finals
sullen mist
Proof democracy fails. People vote stupid lol
upper hawk
wow. that was so much better than i anticipated. amazing weekend
balmy wolf
why were we only allowed to vote for an mvp of the set on team usa before the set was even over
sullen mist
Legit game. USA absolutely dominated
worn hornet
there was a 2nd page with China's players
uneven owl
im sure mvp voting is rigged. they didnt want to give it to xqc again when he didnt do jack shit
balmy wolf
o never saw that ig
inland bluff
Welp that was fun folks, see ya when I see ya
balmy wolf
sintraa won so much in the past 2 months its insane
upper hawk
meh its whatever. he gave his teammate the recognition so thats badass
rare magnet
was it 3-0
shy nymph
yea 3-0
lethal plank
they want to play 2020 OWL on OW2
rare magnet
not gonna be released early 2020
balmy wolf
the 1st map was the closest one in the series
shy nymph
even though ow2 is basically an expansion just for the story imma just buy it for the updates lol
rare magnet
i read fall 2020 somewhere with a source
balmy wolf
jeff said it I think in a press conference
shy nymph
im just super excited for this shit
mint flower
who got MVP
upper hawk
T Mobile Boomer
rare magnet
its on sale for blizzcon
balmy wolf
sinatraa got mvp
mint flower
cant say i didnt expect that one
rare magnet
i mean its a 3 year old game
shy nymph
whats sad though is overwatch got a new game within 4 years while it took diablo 7 years
balmy wolf
dudes making an attempt to support the esports scene and all he gets is u clowns calling him boomer
upper hawk
its the payoff of competitive gaming
balmy wolf
at least the new diablo actually looks great
shy nymph
meh it looks like a d3 update tbh lol but yknow im just glad its something new
balmy wolf
Time for team changes to be made
I'll be following the newest additions and subrations based on the performance in this OWWC
sullen berry
No shoes meta still strong
sullen berry
https://weibointl.api.weibo.cn/share/100662833.html?weibo_id=4434538626973639
Eileen on his performance (I had to Google translate which is available in the Weibo International version)
balmy wolf
Will washington Justice be making roster changes ?
https://www.over.gg/11217/a-guide-to-owl-midseason-roster-moves Do you think this is accurate it was written in May
Sept. 30, 2019: Signing window opens
Nov. 11, 2019: 2019 season agreements officially end. Any players not under contract into the 2020 season become free agents.
Nov. 15, 2019: Deadline for all teams to have a minimum of eight players under contract. Teams may sign or trade players until June 15, 2020,
sullen berry
@balmy wolf that OWL mid-season post back in may? I'd say it was a checkpoint but I'd love to go over them and if they were true
But to answer the more relevant question about signing windows for next year, teams have less than two weeks to sign free agents or resign existing players to have minimum 8 players onboard
They won't actually be in a hurry if we look back at players who were signed but were benched for most of the season
Could sign someone who would be in demand
But would just be that sub or that extra ticket they have to buy as they travel to each home and away destination
echo quest
Great win for USA but SK still the best at OW. Sinatraa is the NA goat tho
sullen berry
South Korea showing the bar has been lowered
echo quest
Yup
sullen berry
That can only mean it has indeed
Got more competitive pi ver the years
The cracks begin to show, but you can't fault them for losing a match or two where it didn't matter before we saw what USA had up their sleeves in corey
echo quest
True. But they are easily the best nation going by players. The winning team played 4-5 Koreans during the playoffs. Every team that won the stage playoffs had at least 3 Koreans
SK would win
hidden vault
And I don't think SK fielded their best players
hidden vault
Best players who signed up maybe
echo quest
Twilight and slime did as well
echo quest
Wait I think only slime signed up
Wonder who’ll win the league next year
It’s crazy how USA has closed the gap to SK in 4 years. NA in league is still fucking garbage
short sparrow
I heard Blizzard didn't give them a place to practice
That might be why they did worse than the US (who payed for a team house)
ivory moth
who won USA or China??? i went to sleep so idk hah
forest raven
US @ivory moth
ivory moth
really??
forest raven
Ye
ivory moth
yes gooooo
hidden vault
@short sparrow bilzzard didn't give anyone practice rooms
Korea could have gotten a team house themselves
pearl stratus
@short sparrow Yeah Korea was banned from renting all spaces in California and had death threats if they touched a computer prior to the stage.
Just kidding. The fucking morons just didnt' rent a space like they should have.
I'm glad Rawkus got his redemption ark. Everyone gives so much shit for his pick but the dude played out of his mind all OWWC.
balmy wolf
sullen berry
toronto, gothenburg and monte carlo not confirmed what kind of map type yet?
rio de janiero is non-linear
trim shadow
probably push maps
little silo
Toronto seemed to be the new mode
trim shadow
or we might get a hybrid map that can be played as push or played as control
sullen berry
yeah I was under the noption it can't be only one map for the game mode if it's going to be in a map pool
nah can't see them overlapping like that
arcade maps need new additions, though
since I don't think they're focusing on new smaller maps
trim shadow
from the trailer they looked to be new comp maps
sullen mist
waiting for headquarters. then i'll be excitable
limber pine
!!ow2
young fractalBOT
balmy wolf
Was there actually confirmation Echo was going to be one of the new heroes? I know papa Jeff said Sojurn, but didnt catch any other name.
I mean, it's kinda obviously Echo would join sooner or later.
trim shadow
i wonder if there aiming to release ow2 before owl
in like maybe december or january
karmic grotto
ESports will stay quiet for a whole until 2020
mint flower
raw ermine
Yeah he did well in OWWC
rip roky tho
why has nevix never been on the swedish OWWC team?
little silo
probably didn't want to play
raw ermine
Ik this year cause Lul and eli are both great with good synergy, but why not any other year
pearl stratus
Or SK from this year.
karmic grotto
@balmy wolf Lul and Eli have played over a year together
mint flower
they've known each other since they were like 7
its like a carpe and diem type relationship
raw ermine
^
tropic herald
MVP for WC is just popularity lol
trim shadow
So when is fdgod and crusade gonna get owl looks?
trim shadow
Which is fine
mint flower
my bad, im dumb
gaunt minnow
2019 has fhe worst OWWC format and schedule
balmy wolf
you're a day late
gaunt minnow
?
balmy wolf
whats the point of talking about it? its over now
trim shadow
Ah another bitch has arrived
gaunt minnow
Whats there to talk about but recent tournaments? Contenders?
balmy wolf
gauntlet is already over
WC is done, OD and contender trials is happening next
Then OWL and contenders will start after that
trim shadow
Contenders is differnt next year
hidden vault
Just talk about anything you want
sullen berry
He literally just stated the format was the worst in 2019
Which for something that's letting teams fund themselves and organise their own visas, logistically it was awful?
I enjoyed every game, the sweeps weren't going to surprise anyone and I knew coming in South Korea was an all star roster
Stacked
And would fail because of an unexpectedly good Team USA
Corey was going to pop
But not that hard
Just waiting to see if Tutu is going to do another recap of Team China's journey to blizzcon
It certainly was rough for them getting to 2nd place. This time a bit smoother
And they still crumbled under the pressure
balmy wolf
I think after china lost the 1st map so closely, their moral just got drained
solar plaza
So is the new engine and graphics being applied to OW 1?
gaunt acorn
@solar plaza see here: https://discordapp.com/channels/94882524378968064/94882524378968064/640478547844268044
pearl stratus
This journey for China seemed a lot smoother partially because it was built around logistics. It wasn't built with the absolute best players available - but the logistically smartest picks.
I.E. Rui talked about how some picks were made with visas in mind, and how having an existing visa helped influence picks so that he didn't have those issues arise this time around.
karmic grotto
Watching some Apex things
Back when you didn't need much healing but just speed and Discord/Harmony orb
Dive as comp before they saw other tanks being viable too
:/
Was it peak Overwatch back then?
short sparrow
Nah
karmic grotto
Ya
short sparrow
xP
scenic bough
Anyone knows any pc leagues plz dm if you do
trim shadow
Twitter
mossy heath
Any diamond ranked players or higher who take comp seriously dm me
short sparrow
Wait... "New team"? Is he talking about team Russia, or...? :o
trim shadow
old would be boston
and mistakes didnt play for team russia
so he could be refering to team russia/boston cause i know alot of owl players were doing streaming at blizzcon
new team could be fucking anyone..i dont think whole owl teams were there but representivies/scouts could have
short sparrow
He didn't play for Russia, but he was GM
True, it might
It probably is
But speculating is more fun xD
trim shadow
but toronto themselves are missing a dps so
the s4 announcement still eludes us unless gladiators are fiercly fighting to keep him after trading decay
pearl stratus
Or everyone dropped him after watching the WC.
short sparrow
Oof
pearl stratus
Team Can'tada.
seriously what the fuck happened to s4
pearl stratus
IT was the whole team to be fair.
forest raven
I heard crimzo was poppin
pearl stratus
No, that whole team wasn't on the same page.
They were in different books.
And xQc was on Nick Jr, not even reading.
They went 1-11. That's just.. oof.
trim shadow
jayne wasnt coaching this year so i wonder if that plays in as well
there new coach was some tizikaya guy or what and ive never heard of em..maybe hes a contenders coach
pearl stratus
Jayne didn't coach well last year, I thinkt he roster was the problem.
They went the default OWL player route.
trim shadow
so safe to say they chose there players to safely
pearl stratus
It's the same exact roster as last year, and I think that was a mistake.
trim shadow
meanwhile netherlands consist of no owl players and made top 6
pearl stratus
Minus USA and Choi realistically no OWL really popped this OWWC.
Like for France Soon did great, don't get me wrong.
But it was the Leaf show for DPS.
And I feel like Canada could have gotten roster picks that had more to prove and would have dug deeper.
Mouffin over Note, etc.
limber pine
forest raven
Gamsu fucking DEAD
trim shadow
its weird
cause shanghai dragons were posting bout gamsu sayng he was streaming our main tank and what not
so id assume he was staying
short sparrow
Wonder who's gonna replace him
limber pine
Fate is the rumor i think
pearl stratus
At least he's going for mucho $$$.
We already know Dallas overpays, but at least Gamsu earned his lol
trim shadow
gamsu: farewall shanghai i am off to fix another dumpster fire
limber pine
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pearl stratus
Someone brought up a silly good point too.
If he goes to Dallas he doesn't have to try to move Uni.
And I actually legitimately think it's something he would think of, lol
He loves that dog so much
trim shadow
oohhh yeaa..gamsu has a shibu inu
honestly
dallas is kinda monkaS
decay gamsu closer
taimou on a good day
zach on a good day
only position that has me concerend is ot
cause note played like ass during owwc
limber pine
Canada in general played like ass
mint flower
i believe he announced that he's "done" with OW after world cup
karmic grotto
I don't think Aero did that much to be fair
raw ermine
Yeah I remember that.
karmic grotto
team USA has 3 Shock players, synergy on its max, coached by Crusty in that meta which made them hard as steel. Corey is a standalone world class player on its own. Space is a mother*er good tank that learned Sigma while grinding when not playing Sigma for Valiant, and Rawkus stepped up his play and shined (Really deserved the win). I believe the other players became more coached by the players than Aero, but I do think Aero came up with specific strategy (Nepal first round) which surprised SK and everyone
USA made the strategy work, and I think if he tried that with Dallas Fuel, it wouldn't work at all and becomes a hard throw
hidden vault
I do think crimzo could back kariv up in tornoto ya?
polar pendant
I doubt xqc would accept any offers
mint flower
I think he's referring to xqc
trim shadow
Xqc
If crimzo doesnt hit owl boy will be upset
I better see his name under contract on november 15th
Or whenever watchpoint does there pre season
I actually think pre season watchpoint will be in january
mint flower
i wanted crimzo on toronto before kariv was announced/leaked
vernal obsidian
Sinatraa is the messi of OW
and my god, when he's serious, he gets super twitchy.
swift moth
yea he was good, team canada disapointed me
tho
they should have added chayne(the other mt on the tryouts(is that his name i forget lol)) to the team (it is possible though that they decided on xqc and were running him to be able to have the tryouts with multiple main tanks) (too many parentheses lol)
upper hawk
in the tryouts though xQc outplayed the other tanks for most of it
mainly with Mouffin as OT
slender lance
What happened to Canada
upper hawk
overall they should probably actually assemble a team tho
jagged crater
out of practice
slender lance
I wasn't able to watch the games
cold pier
xqc > chayne anyways
jagged crater
who got the brunt of the criticism
seems like note since everyone kept thinking what could've with mouffin
tho i doubt mouffin alone would help save Canada
upper hawk
probably not. but his synergy with xQC was apparent. really stood out
but they opted against it
but youre right it wouldnt have pushed them much more
they really looked like crap
jagged crater
they went 1-11 in maps so really bad
short sparrow
You know what I think
jagged crater
UK going 2-10 in maps, but didnt look nearly as bad as Canada
short sparrow
They should have played Agilities as MS instead of Bani
Just like last year vs Austria
xD
jagged crater
Canada didnt even go against the best opponents
0-3'd by russia and denmark
1-2 by netherlands
?_?
accident posting in every channel?
balmy wolf
Have you heard about fissure & rjh joining titans?
feral wing
fissure already retired didnt he?
and also they already have 2 main tanks
ryujehong is really good but idk if hes better than either slime or twilight
raw ermine
Yeah
Fissure said he MIGHT return iirc on a stream
and yeah Twilight is better than jehong
jagged crater
classic unretire
brett favre did it 3 times
some people just get back that competitive fire after taking a break
ancient wedge
Could someone have 9 ppl on main roster or would it have to be 6 main and 3 subs?
raw ermine
Nice
Now I am jus blasting crab rave cause I am so excited for S4
lmao
Has gamsu been on the most different teams?
Boston, shanghai and dallas now
Have there been any equal or surpassing him in that regard
raw ermine
fissure was on london LAG and Seoul
Rascal was on SFS, (Dallas?Boston?a blue team) and who else
balmy wolf
rascal was on spitfire, dallas, and now shock
sullen berry
The first player to hit 4 teams has already been done, theyre just not that interesting
A couple more three teams:
Envy on Valiant Defiant Shanghai
raw ermine
who is it?
mint flower
4 teams?
raw ermine
yeah
mint flower
or are you including contenders too?
raw ermine
owl only. If we included contenders than there would be a lot more
sullen berry
Hmm so far since we're not counting academy teams, I'm still counting them up
mint flower
i dont think theres been a player on 4 teams
sullen berry
I think there would be those who are on 3
mint flower
and silkthread?
was he signed to chengdu?
sullen berry
That are getting close to their 4th. But they're technically still on a team
Silkthread retired from overwatch competitive
mint flower
i know but before season 2
sullen berry
This is near the tail end of 2018
sullen berry
When Chengdu Hunters was announced, he actually put out a lengthy tweet explaining he worked with the team
mint flower
but did he sign a contract?
sullen berry
He mentioned to some extent that he didn't quite fit in with the teams culture, he probably hadn't signed a contract with the hunters
You'd have to go back to the archives around October/November if it was only ever leaked that he was being signed to chengdu
mint flower
liquipedia says he was briefly signed to the team
but retired before hunters announced his signing
dunno how reliable that source is
pearl stratus
Silkthread was American Chinese, not Chinese American.
And thats what made him not fit in.
sullen berry
But the order is correct
He may have joined the Hunters during interim
Looking forward to leading/coaching an all Chinese roster under the Royal Never Give up brand would be pretty enticing at first
Once it came down to how he would contracted, or when Coach Rui wanted to structure the roster
Perhaps that's when it came down to whether he wanted to sign another year
Last I checked silkthread moved onto Apex
trim shadow
oh right chengdu is managed by rng huh
i wonder why they went with yellow and black instead of gold and black..gold as the primariy and black as the secondary unlike seoul
trim shadow
i think rui and chengdu selected a good roster..sure it wasnt the best chineese talent out there
most of the players were retire's
or under the radar players from cn contenders
sullen berry
But they did right in terms of roster, building around the old school Miraculous Youngster roster
trim shadow
but chengdu had one of the more successfull seasons for a expansion team
sullen berry
It kind of showed no matter how much you get out of overwatch, here's a skill cap
trim shadow
i can see chengdu keeping this roster for at least 2 more seasons
trim shadow
pubg is all but dead esports and game wise i believe..well not dead but its in a recession
balmy wolf
I mean hunters was basically was dragons should've been in season 1
The core from Miraculous youngsters and then wait for leave to come of age and there you go.
balmy wolf
Obviously yes, but we all know he is no slouch on dps.
sullen berry
Shame undead couldn't be sub
trim shadow
inb4 drake founds out about toronto defiant
raw ermine
Drake joins toronto defiant next
balmy wolf
steve
opal spruce
im late to the party but Drake finding out about the Toronto Defiant could only be good, think of how much exposure not only the team but the league as a whole gets from that
balmy wolf
The weeknd already put in a stake into toronto defiant I believe
1 celebrity doesn't do jack for the league
You want to attract the big ass corporations willing to drop money
opal spruce
its not just one celebrity, its Drake. The dude has millions of eyes following him everywhere, that kind of exposure attracts corporations
tropic herald
I mean it’s still a good start
balmy wolf
So does the weeknd have millions of followers
tropic herald
And OW2 created giant exposure towards the game again
opal spruce
he had the entire NBA talking about him cause he stayed on the bench with the Raptors
all it takes is one person
balmy wolf
Different market
Different crowd
The org that bought teams already have big names behind them
balmy wolf
Thats what homestands are for
opal spruce
marketing leads to endorsements
trim shadow
that 1 celebrity is the weeknd
but if drake starts putting the defiant out there
well lets just say toronto will be a celebrity esports team kinda like 100t or any fnatic roster
opal spruce
Drake endorses the Defiant, that leads to other big name people endorsing their city's team. (Jerry Jones for Dallas comes to mind just cause I live in Dallas and dont know where anyone else is from)
balmy wolf
I didnt see that happening when the weeknd did it
opal spruce
who's bigger, the Weeknd or Drake
opal spruce
cause this is the first time im hearing of the Weeknd and OWL in the same sentence, Drake would make headlines
Drake can
just look at 100t
trim shadow
as much as i dont like drake
if he starts endorsing the leauge it will put owl on the map essentially
opal spruce
^
trim shadow
like jimmy liberal when sinatraa and super were on there
id personally hate it but...it will attract the audience the leauge wants to break
opal spruce
cause lets be real, OWL will never be on the same level as CSGO or LoL or Dota without some massive name endoresement
even for one team
trim shadow
ur everyday blue collars who watch nfl on a sunday
peak csgo and peak csgo*
peak dota*
opal spruce
Drake would also pull all the football players who play video games
trim shadow
csgo is there and there but its not gonna move since its sticking to its traditional style
opal spruce
which leads to more endorsements
trim shadow
we already had like some NFL and NBA players acknowledge the leauge and having favorite friends and bullshitting about playing overwatch and what not
but drake would pretty much pull all of the nba to the leauge
balmy wolf
Doesn't matter if you don't have people actually liking what their seeing
Homestands need to actually work and get healthy attendance
opal spruce
whats not to like about the OWL? sure double shield is boring but it about the environment
and not every team is gonna pop off at every homestand
we saw that between Dallas and LA
balmy wolf
Homestands need to bring money.
trim shadow
ow used to be about the love of the game but blizzard isnt really taking care of ow..so its more about owl and seeing flashy plays
opal spruce
the MArlins cant even sell out their baseball stadium
theres gonne be homestands with minimal people
trim shadow
id imagine wed get top teams selling out and bottom teams barely making attendance
opal spruce
thats just sports
trim shadow
like fucking florida or boston homestands
id imagine thats why guangzhou and philly get alot of homestands
opal spruce
idk, if other sports tell a story, boston fans will show up
its just a question of how many there are
trim shadow
every team has a minimum of 2 and a maximum of 5 i believe so
vancouver san fransicso Toronto and chengdu will just draw fans
id imagine by december/january teams will start putting there ads on billboards in there local market
thats what i will do
you dont even have to put a billboard up in seoul just telling someone the dynasty are playing and youd have fans litterally tailgating to watch seoul play
opal spruce
also if big name people show up to places (like Dallas' homestand for example) and see just how loud and how wild and how energetic the place is, that will make them come back and tell their followers that its legit
oh god i cant wait for people to tailgate for Dallas/Houston/Atlanta games
hell i might tailgate for a dallas game
trim shadow
id definetly tailgate for a atlanta fans
considering if atlanta does well in esports in which i am very confident we will be top 5
atlanta fans will goto the homestand in droves
hell out of all the american teams
atlanta and dallas have some of the most passionate fans out there
opal spruce
all i know is this first hoemstand for dallas is gonna be packed and just as loud if not louder than the one this year
trim shadow
houston fans are just dellisulional but at least with harsha on board id be hyped to
the first game will take place in toronto i believe and id imagine the canadians are happy for a mostly canadian roster
opal spruce
"houston fans are delusional"
😂
that surefour pickup will bring even more people too
pearl stratus
I mean.
I watched the OWWC.
The Toronto pick ups all look like downgrades at this point.
Minus Kariv.
hidden vault
Well they decided to go abit Canadian
Nevix if true is an upgrade
Still no news on their main tank
balmy wolf
beasthalo
trim shadow
beast is a mt
balmy wolf
gods was kind of bad tbh
trim shadow
think gods just suffered from poor coaching
but then again gods made some pepega plays that common sense was all that was needed
hidden vault
Does he?
raw ermine
There is not a chance in hell that happens
mint flower
Yeah that ain't happening
lost glade
Yeah I know but he was my favorite OWL player
hidden vault
Why do you think he deserves a 2nd chance tho?
lost glade
He just did a massive mistake and everyone deserves a second chance
He is a really good player
trim shadow
DK does deserve a 2nd chance
but we live in a society where once something happens your name is eternally cursed
and the stigma will be over your head
most of the "evidence" against DK had no weight and the case was drop with alot of inconsistency's but im sure once u put pedophile near someones name its the easiest way to destroy there life
thats the meeto movement
slender lance
Even if he got a second chance what team would take him
trim shadow
id imagine if he does make a comeback it will be through contenders
probably join a normal team then end up on a academy
slender lance
I could see that
trim shadow
stay on that academy for some time and maybe land a spot like valiant
hell maybe boston might take him back
him and striker did hard carry boston
analog lark
Why are toronto starting to look good
They're looking like a solid midtier team rather than trash
hidden vault
I don't think any team wants to sign him
That's suicide
Or he could be like undead join contenders
And never return
analog lark
Shame, Dreamkazper was easily top 3 flex dps in season 1