is it me or does it sound like Uber & Mr. X have worse mics than what they get for the OWL broadcasts?
#esports-discussion
worn hornet
jagged crater
multistream is awesome
limber pine
uk/norway finals has started
worn hornet
shit now I actually have a choice to make with caster audio
karmic grotto
WM?
halcyon fox
widow
brittle hull
Widow maker
karmic grotto
I like goats
halcyon fox
i mean you could still feasibly run double sniper on junkertown
halcyon fox
presumably they're getting better sound guys in for the group stages
brittle hull
UK 1-0
feral wing
how were norway able to throw that one fight
oh god not this again
I remember this from eurocup
brittle hull
Last map of NZ vs AU started
karmic grotto
what the heck is norway doing??
this isn't ladder
REIN, might as well use Hog or D.va
literally, if done right
limber pine
they've been running decod on rein all day
limber pine
and by all day, I mean this match and their first
balmy wolf
isnt he just a rein 1 trick?
karmic grotto
They had plan, but didn't work
DIDN'T WORK
Norway has no idea how to play the meta
The good teams will be qualified, bad teams not
that simple
brittle hull
UK is just steamrolling teams
limber pine
NZ had their chance
brittle hull
True
brittle hull
LOL what
rare magnet
bren and sideshow are casting japan italy on playoverwatch now
limber pine
i mean they drew their map
so i think they'll have to play a 6th map if Philippines wins the next
rare magnet
they have countries wrong ways on jap ita japan is actually blue and italy white
halcyon fox
can someone please whack a limiter on sideshow and bren
or at least wind the gain down
balmy wolf
just lower your volume 4head
rare magnet
atleast u can hear game audio now
sullen berry
NZ exceeding expectations personally
jovial fiber
tooOoooo
sullen berry
They couldn't be worse than the 2017 roster
Colombia stocks going up
Up against Sweden next 
tawny sigil
no commentator?
karmic grotto
??????????
???????????
This does not make sense to me
Why didn't they announce Gator on their Reign twitter?
Also, exactly why is Hawk gone? (obviously they won't put reason, but maybe Hawk did grow and is looking for opportunities?)
or else this is a jebait
Hawk promoted to Reign, Daco goes away
Gator promoted to fulltime Reign player
Because both were dismissed
Gator is main tank, Hawk is off tank
They might be signed?
raw ermine
This isn't an official bliz discord FYI
sullen berry
@karmic grotto, no need to over think it. Most likely moved up with the demand for flex tanks with OWL experience
Like with Nero or Eileen, they could go to another team but more cheaper and secure to go with Reign
*as you said
balmy wolf
They did the same thing with dogman you know.
karmic grotto
Except this time, it still feels different
sullen berry
I can't remember what the problem was around dogman signing at the start of the season
karmic grotto
???
sullen berry
He just wasn't on a roster and then it all made sense when they officially announced him as on the starting roster
short sparrow
Calling it right now
karmic grotto
You're calling what you've been reading on subreddit
balmy wolf
Houston hasn't dropped a single tank at all.
short sparrow
They will
balmy wolf
Nor has reign.
halcyon fox
dear god this japan defense is dangerous
karmic grotto
And your argument for that is....?
short sparrow
?
balmy wolf
More like daco gonna get dropped and gator and hawk move up.
short sparrow
I'm just guessing
karmic grotto
Yes, gotta have security on roster when travelling
short sparrow
Frd ain't that amazing
karmic grotto
12 man roster
short sparrow
So yeah, could be...
karmic grotto
FRD ain't that amazing lmao, not sure what games you've been watching
Outperformed Daco
short sparrow
Stage 4 hog was good
karmic grotto
????
sullen berry
It's been more than a months since I've seen a pro match with D. VA in it
balmy wolf
I mean kind of bad metric since reign only did half decent on goats
short sparrow
Sure, but that's not my point
Daco seemed like one of the best Dvas in the league at the time
balmy wolf
so??
short sparrow
That's all I was saying
balmy wolf
So you're rating a player by how good they are on one hero?
karmic grotto
Frd is the better teammate
short sparrow
Yes he is
I'm just saying
They can probably find better
And hawk might be that better player
karmic grotto
There are better players without contract, doesn't mean they need to be signed
short sparrow
._.????
karmic grotto
Seems like you don't follow eSports as close as we do here so I'll give an example of what I mean
Boston Uprising signed a player named Jerry, and he is originally an (off) tank player who had to play in dps position in an occasion, and it turns out he performed very well and even after some scrims, so Boston decided to sign him because they saw potential in his growth. At this point you could ask yourself: why sign a player who is changing on roles where he lacks (and needs to improve A LOT) what others in OWL already have?
Instead of signing a true dps player that had experience on his role
short sparrow
Yeah
karmic grotto
There will always be a better option
But doesn't mean that player needs to be signed
short sparrow
But it does mean he should...
karmic grotto
He should be signed, but that becomes might
tropic herald
Curryshot went to LAG
lean tartan
this italy japan sets is nuts
halcyon fox
that defense on paris was bananas
lean tartan
ikr
worn falcon
Are they playing with the Doomfist nerf patch?
balmy wolf
they are playing on the live patch, so yes
velvet scarab
japan clutching up
halcyon fox
again
wintry kraken
ROFL, Bren and Sideshow are exploding 😄
halcyon fox
this is tense
cerulean dock
FIGHT FOR FREEDOM MY BOYS
Sure OWWC has no bearing on HK as a whole but imma pretend it does
halcyon fox
well fought
lean tartan
ggs indeed
raw ermine
That was so incredibly close
lean tartan
you can hear bren barely having enough breath to summarize the set lol
wintry kraken
these france ads, 5 times in row same ad
wintry kraken
btw why do play all games at once ?
they have like 4 or 5 channels right now, and games overlap
raw ermine
Is that all the games for today?
raw ermine
lmao ok ngl mexico is screwed
wintry kraken
overwatchcontenders and playoverwatch are waiting for their next games
Paraguay - HK seems to be starting now
halcyon fox
i take back everything i said about shadowburn being a genji onetrick
frozen perch
imagine if hk loses here
raw ermine
Scared me
I thought XQC was dropping from the world cup
This could cause a problem tho
frozen perch
Are the streams switching between the PlayOW channel and the OWL channel?
pearl stratus
Oh I didn't see that Philly released the only part of their team that never was trash.
Rip Heidi 😦
west shard
so what is this BYE in the tournement bracket??
gaunt acorn
@west shard they get to skip it
pearl stratus
It means they had standings high enough due to past OWWC performances to skip the first round of prelims
minor flame
Any interesting teams rn
pearl stratus
Italy Sweden isn't bad. Always fun seeing Dragoneddy.
pearl stratus
He's always been very clean mechanically.
minor flame
Mm
Isnt Blizzcon announcements supposed to be today
Or is that tmrw
Oh wait
Its thursday
Im fucking dumb
Ok
Which teams seems to be the most likely to win the whole thing
tropic herald
Korea
little silo
Korea
tropic herald
China
pearl stratus
With Leave out, China's chances dropped noticeably.
tropic herald
It’s like 70-30
little silo
Did Leave even travel there
pearl stratus
I'm quietly optimistic about US, honestly. Because the meta fits their current players, and there's some massive improvements.
I.E. Sinatraa 2018 was oof.
Sinatraa 2019 is a lot more mature and solid
tropic herald
I doubt US will be able compete with Korea
pearl stratus
I don't think most people can right now. China lost their best DPS.
And thats a hard recovery.
little silo
Team USA has a practice facility right there while SK are looking for an internet cafe
minor flame
Korea is playing Carpe right?
little silo
yeah
minor flame
Hows the brat
pearl stratus
Yeah, they're throwing.
halcyon fox
i dunno, a lot of the US team has experience against korean players, or have played alongside
pearl stratus
Carpe is a hard throw in 2019.
balmy wolf
I mean china isnt exactly out of the game yet
minor flame
Hes playing reaper yeah?
balmy wolf
jinmu can play doom and eileen can stick to reaper
minor flame
Last I saw his Reaper was ok
minor flame
Hows Jinmu and Eileen
upper niche
@frozen perch They are using four twitch channels for OWWC - owwc1, owwc2, playoverwatch and overwatchcontenders
minor flame
Im most likely gonna root for China
little silo
how did Carpe get on the korean national team? Did he pop off like crazy in trials or what
tropic herald
What’s SK’s roster
minor flame
Popularity?
upper niche
@west shard A number of teams pulled out of OWWC leaving blank spots and giving those opponents byes.
little silo
Idk Bdosin Mano Choi
tropic herald
WC isn’t about popularity
pearl stratus
I think they wanted to make sure they had a hitscan available.
little silo
Architect Haksal and Carpe I think
pearl stratus
And in that situation Carpe isn't a bad choice.
raw ermine
Mano Choi, Carpe Haksal Architect, idk bdosin
pearl stratus
But nothing changed to make Hitscan worthwhile.
minor flame
Was SBB not available?
tropic herald
Well even if the dps are a little weak, the rest of the team is SS tier
pearl stratus
SBB is useless right now.
frozen perch
@upper niche why would they do that
upper niche
@twin yacht lol, what's this, xQc drama again? nooooooo, this is a huge surprise noone saw coming.
minor flame
He played a more decent reaper and bastion
raw ermine
The dps is the best
little silo
Compared to the rest of teams Carpe is still gonna roll
pearl stratus
@upper niche He's doing one of the new release panels, actually.
twin yacht
its not drama
pearl stratus
It's the smarter choice.
raw ermine
Architect and haksal are probably the best doom and reaper combo possible
upper niche
@frozen perch Because there are too many games occurring simultaneously and they want to make sure all are viewable.
tropic herald
They could’ve picked any talent and they picked Carpe
raw ermine
maybe striker was better, but arch is also fine
minor flame
What other options were fighting for Carpes spot?
raw ermine
Nenne and Decay
little silo
decay
minor flame
Ah
raw ermine
In the final 12
minor flame
Uh
pearl stratus
I mean you also have to assume those people wanted to.
minor flame
They both seem slightly better but
upper niche
Oh, I missed a channel. the playoverwatch channel is also being used.
balmy wolf
I mean you have both artitech and haksal, thats already one the best dps lineup in the WC rn
pearl stratus
And for the current meta Decay isn't a good choice either.
raw ermine
Kariv and Anamo got beat by bdosin and idk interestingly
little silo
and elsa
pearl stratus
There are VERY few countries that couldn't make it that would have mattered.
balmy wolf
many players want to actually enjoy their breaks as well
pearl stratus
So that argument doesn't matter.
minor flame
Are China utilizing Pharmercy?
balmy wolf
who knows
little silo
I would have liked to see Zijin or Coldest but they went with the Chengdu squad
tropic herald
OWWC is also a up and coming show off so many OWL players choose not to play for their country
minor flame
Cause normally with a duo like Yveltal and Jinmu
pearl stratus
People who had a visa had higher priority.
minor flame
I thought they would play more Pharmercy
pearl stratus
Since visas have fucked them in the past.
balmy wolf
thailand got fucked cuz of visa timing
little silo
ofc it makes sense
tropic herald
Visas rolled China
pearl stratus
Visas rolled lots of people.
minor flame
Visas rolled them but atleast they can play with a decent roster
little silo
This roster has synergy and RUI knows all of them fairly well too
pearl stratus
It's a shit process no matter where you're going / coming.
tropic herald
What are the two groups for WC?
pearl stratus
China just has a few areas known for higher levels of trafficking, so Visas from there are even harder.
tropic herald
Ik one has US Sk
minor flame
Which stream is China on
pearl stratus
Which we learned from Lateyoung
tropic herald
And the other has CN CAN
little silo
China doesnt play today I think
pearl stratus
They don't, their 3 year running average was high enough
balmy wolf
groups happen tomorrow
tropic herald
None of the upper teams play today
upper niche
Yeah, there's a bunch of seeds based on previous years results.
tropic herald
There was 5 spots open?
balmy wolf
4
upper niche
I can't find a page for OWWC that concisely shows the full tournamnet format and how the groups are formed.
balmy wolf
pearl stratus
I still think, as a talent show, that OWWC would be better without OWL players.
little silo
Its probably between Russia and Germany for Group D
pearl stratus
But people get all whiny about that.
lean tartan
the building is on fire what
upper niche
So where do the Bracket A and Bracket B winners come in?
little silo
Fire alarm on the Contenders stream
upper niche
I is see, they've already filled it in, but not marked it on the page.
jagged crater
kinda excited for hong kong memes if they make it to blizzcon
halcyon fox
well a fire alarm just went off on stream so
lean tartan
it did stop tho
queen drift
when is HK v Ger?
jagged crater
if we see hk vs china in blizzcon, it would be like stars align
queen drift
capital d colojn
upper niche
So yeah I still can't figure out the finals format for brackets.
jagged crater
would hong kong have to beat russia to proceed ?
tropic herald
The Groups have a round robin each I think
jagged crater
oof that's already a rough one
upper niche
@tropic herald Yeah, but is it like ... 2A v 3B and 3A v 2B go in to the brackets?
upper niche
There's just so little info around it.
pearl stratus
And I'm pretty sure they're just filling them in A through E numerically.
tropic herald
And after the RR the top 3 of each play in a tournament
pearl stratus
Since it'd be random seeding anyway.
upper niche
@jagged crater The winner of Bracket D goes through, so yes, the winner of HK plays Germany, and the winner of that match plays Russie, and the winner of that goes through.
pearl stratus
There's no prior results for the 5 BYE teams either.
upper niche
@tropic herald Yeah, I figured that - but there's no indication of what seed goes where.
upper niche
Also, liquipedia lists the first 4 matches being FRA vs various teams which seems extremely unlikely and unfair.
tropic herald
And the 2-5 and 3-4 face each other
upper niche
They're in two groups.
queen drift
This is so overly complicated
upper niche
So unless you interspersed the W-L records/scores from two brackets to get seeds from that...
gilded peak
I just tuned in, but what's happening? No game?
tropic herald
Idk
upper niche
I wonder if the JSON data gives any hints.
tropic herald
I’m just guessing at this point
gilded peak
Ah, gotcha. Thanks
queen drift
Wtf is up with the ‘BYE!’
pearl stratus
Someone just overenthusiastically writing bye
pearl stratus
It's a free pass, most likely from teams who couldn't make it.
balmy wolf
Like Thailand
tropic herald
They get a free win due to teams not able to show up
queen drift
Ah
pearl stratus
I mean from everything I've seen its just Thailand getting the wrong visas, which is their own fault.
queen drift
This whole thing is so badly put together
pearl stratus
Eh
pearl stratus
If you look at the teams that got byes its teams that would have won anyway.
tropic herald
Teams just don’t have money
pearl stratus
I mean at least they're showing off a lot of random places.
queen drift
Not the bye stuff although that’s also unprofessional in the way it’s presented
pearl stratus
Since realistically pretty much all of these teams would have never mattered.
As much as reddit loved team Ireland, they were never actually making it anywhere
tropic herald
It’s prelims
It’s just an extended way to show that the top 10 from last year will be the same again
pearl stratus
Yeah, they're just doing it at Blizzcon instead of random internet games.
tropic herald
Previously it was all September and October online
pearl stratus
With all thats happening though the viewer numbers are actually higher.
queen drift
pearl stratus
Prelims from last year were like... 3k viewers on average.
Since you knew going into it who was winning each bracket.
minor flame
Azalea is a fucking idiot
spring heath
why am i watching a podcast
tropic herald
#BringTheMayhem
queen drift
this is some top tier production 🙂
limber pine
blissful heron
Cool
tropic herald
acts surprised
cursive jolt
wheres the schedule?
trim shadow
HOLY SHIT ATLANTA IS MAKING A ROSTER
shell snow
trim shadow
tropic herald
Well that was unexpected
hidden vault
Anyone knows what exactly happened to thailand?
They didn't apply for the correct visa?
balmy wolf
Didnt get them in time
hidden vault
They are at bilzzcon didn't they?
oak heath
sullen berry
Today could not have been more fire than this match.
Health and Safety violations failed after gamers continue to asset dominance in the facility
tawny sigil
are the protesters setting shit on fire?
karmic grotto
No
sullen berry
that clip is unbelievably quotable
shame this hadn't been broadcasted on the more popular OW League channel
||https://twitter.com/Fusion/status/1189972807339388934|| what an icon for the fusion
trim shadow
bruh
trim shadow
hot heart
hidden vault
No?
hot heart
Profit and gesture was huge so i assume that was most of their budget
mint flower
They have 9, Creative/Fits/Gesture/Highly/Illicit/Marve1/Michelle/Profit/Tobi
hot heart
Marve1 and gesture is a godly duo
Fleta Illicit is godly too
They dont have an amzing support line but whatcha gonna do
Most of the good supports are taken
Tobi is meh
mint flower
Fleta is rumored to be going to shanghai
hot heart
Well then seoul has kind of fucked themselves in that case
hot heart
SWIMMER
valid kelp
lol.
earnest violet
im hoping swimmer is actually in owl 
raw ermine
Yay Mouffin
pearl stratus
Profit is an upgrade from Fleta in every possible way except for -maybe- Widow.
So Seoul is fine losing Fleta.
karmic grotto
100% I'm gonna watch Korea vs UK
raw ermine
Do the games start at 1 again?
limber pine
if SK was smart, they'd play architect on Reaper and sit Carpe
trim shadow
so about 3 est for me
limber pine
da
pearl stratus
Yes, 4.
alpine bobcat
NYXL is the best team
mint flower
Ok...
blissful heron
Screw NY and all it’s teams besides the Mets
rapid bobcat
Did anyone see the match between finland and the netherlands? How was the match?
karmic grotto
I didn't because it was too late for me and I had an appointment with coach
Otherwise I would have watched it
But reading the comments, they say Netherlands popped off
pearl stratus
@limber pine Oh I know, but if a grown person can't tell time I'll be damned if I'm going to correct them. That's not funny
rapid bobcat
@karmic grotto Nice okay I have to watch that
limber pine
¯_(ツ)_/¯
pearl stratus
@limber pine Did you see the Preliminaries match numbers, 70% 3-0's.
jagged crater
Sounds accurate
limber pine
Yah that’s my post
hidden vault
I think the reason for that would be because bilzzard placed the better countries with the lesser ones
of course this ensures the most of the supposedly better countries to proceed with the higher brackets
but the down side is that we do not have close matches
I guess it would be good say 11th-20th and 20th-30th seed could have a go at each other after the elimination brackets
but i'm also not sure how much that would cost blizzard to like extend world cup by another 2 more days
pearl stratus
The reason is that most countries are shit.
It's no different than when they tried to do the local brackets, most countries are just fodder.
limber pine
yeah there were like 3 upsets based on seating
Denmark over AUS
Italy over Japan
SA over portual
well and Mexico over latvia technically
not sure how latvia got a higher seat than mexcio
Group A probably gonna be SK, US, and UK
Group B probably gonna be Canada, China and Denmark
limber pine
yes
trim shadow
owl playoverwatch owwc 1 and owwc 2 channels?
limber pine
i think it's owwc1, owwc2, PlayOverwatch, and OverwatchContenders
hidden vault
4 games concurrently?
pearl stratus
Yeah, they're not on stage
limber pine
they have stage space
trim shadow
oh there on stage now no online..right right
limber pine
just one match at a time obviously
pearl stratus
Yeah but I mean more like its concurrent because they're not on stage today so they can still do this to get through a bunch.
cloud latch
we finally get our sk vs usa (:
limber pine
ikr
cloud latch
isn't assault 2cp?
trim shadow
will there be a watchpoint or that will be on the final day
autumn slate
pst
limber pine
Overwatch World Cup Group Stage Matches is LIVE!
⏰ Schedule: https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/overwatch-world-cup
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Participating Teams:
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📺 📺 Multi-Stream: https://multistre.am/owwc1/owwc2/playoverwatch/overwatchcontenders/layout16/
raw ermine
Which one is streaming rn?
balmy wolf
They all are.
raw ermine
It's says playoverwatch and contenders is offline
Nvm they all just went live at oncr
rare magnet
uk south korea on owwc2
trim shadow
oh my carpe
karmic grotto
ooof
echo quest
France and Sweden lowkey ass
Also this format is garbage
The sound is so goddamn scuffed
limber pine
lol canada had to put agilites on main tank
trim shadow
cause xqc is streaming ow2 right
brittle hull
Hopefully he's back for their next game
mint flower
lmao so he just dipped?
cloud latch
yep
karmic grotto
HAHAHYAHAHA
Canada is losing
F
xQc really needed to be there
This is distrastious
Should have put
Mouffin on Orisa
Can't put a freaking dps player on Tank
Put a tank on tank
I blame Jayne for this
mint flower
whats the score
balmy wolf
hot heart
hollow dirge
where is xqc
cloud latch
rip canada
hot heart
balmy wolf
yes
cloud latch
carpe...
elfin dagger
dammit
faint skiff
when is next canada match
balmy wolf
Here is a listing of all the matches that are going to be played with their times and links to view the twitch channels.
wintry kraken
man, that moustache on Bren's face is disconcerting 😛
faint skiff
well from my time zone calculations next canada match should be 20 min ago
trim shadow
SCUS ME CHOI
choi YOUR NOT PLAYING DOOMFIST
YOUR PLAYING SIGMA
feral wing
when you believe shadowburn is just a genji/pharah two trick but then he whips out the doomfist and pops off 
spring lintel
south korea actually losing a map to france LUL
feral wing
they are about to get held second point on route
unless france throw they should actually be able to hold them
especially now
yup
south korea first loss?
balmy wolf
could be the 1st series lost
feral wing
yeah thats what I meant
cloud latch
lol what are they doing
cloud latch
is this first to 3?
feral wing
I believe so
trim shadow
alright netherlands reverse sweep incoming
dusky canopy
Best of 3
dusky canopy
It is today
feral wing
really?
dusky canopy
Ya, too many matches to get through otherwise
feral wing
oh fuck it is
well then
france about to beat south korea if they cap
come on france we are giving you our energy!
spring lintel
when is canada's game
dusky canopy
Canada v Netherlands at 3:30 PDT
balmy wolf
rare magnet
is canada out they lost?
trim shadow
usa also plays south korea close to the end of the day
cloud latch
LOL
rare magnet
what
hollow dirge
😮
trim shadow
Leaf for owl yea?
feral wing
FRANCE BEATS SOUTH KOREA
heavy plover
@feral wing france 2 strong
BlessRNG wallah on gagne BlessRNG BlessRNG wallah on gagne BlessRNG SPAMMEZ MOI CA
rare magnet
they beat them in one map?
balmy wolf
group stages btw
heavy plover
@rare magnet theres 2-1 actually
night tusk
2-1 for france now
karmic grotto
Why so quiet Korea?
trim shadow
ok so
hollow dirge
is this 1st defeat for korea?
karmic grotto
Yes
trim shadow
south korea might not get gold
night tusk
but france got rekt by NA lol
heavy plover
@night tusk they where switch on their screens lmao
balmy wolf
france barely put up a fight against US
trim shadow
i think netherlands china is suppose to still be going on idk what happened to there sream
night tusk
Netherlands managed to finish and not get 3-0'd but I think china will finish on next map (2-1 now)
heavy plover
But france win now ? Its bo3 ?
karmic grotto
It's best of 3 guysv
night tusk
first to 3
night tusk
idk bo5 or first to 3 btw (draw rules)
karmic grotto
You're right, 3-0 is already victory
trail lodge
Lmfaooooo
night tusk
so wait, france WON
cloud latch
sk just wants to play more games
raw ermine
How did SK lose?
night tusk
I want to see xQc play but Im rooting for my country Netherlands aswell 
raw ermine
lmao
trail lodge
I remember being hounded for saying USA is better than SK and how SK is way better
I was told
trim shadow
i gotta wire it into my brain groupstages are best of 3
karmic grotto
SK lost to pussy land surrenders
trail lodge
"Never lost a map at Blizzcon"
karmic grotto
White flag dominates
heavy plover
We fckn win dude
FranceIs2Strong
night tusk
maybe SK lost to get easier semi finals ?
karmic grotto
I wouldn't SAY China or US is easy
balmy wolf
US and China look the strongest rn
elfin wren
Did France just beat South Korea in a World Cup match?
trail lodge
Ye
elfin wren
Or am I dreaming?
karmic grotto
Yes
balmy wolf
Both good at double shields
heavy plover
We switch on our screens against USA Kapp @trail lodge
elfin wren
yeah this
feral wing
GO RUSSIA
karmic grotto
A super Korean team loses to a bunch of owl and randos
trail lodge
The support line is super weak for SK standards
cloud latch
why is sk not playing the meta tho
feral wing
YES
elfin wren
They're the first team to beat em, arent they?
trail lodge
@karmic grotto Not even close lol
trim shadow
Twitter
feral wing
Russia are bouta win
trail lodge
Thats nowhere near the best Sk team in the world
karmic grotto
It is
trail lodge
Its not
karmic grotto
They were specifically chosen
night tusk
ooops
feral wing
dont call it too early Ando
karmic grotto
And some decided to not play
trail lodge
Viol2t is the best Kr FS
night tusk
I was too early NO
rare magnet
whys it 2-1 not 3-1
karmic grotto
Violet doesn't play
trail lodge
He didnt want to do OWWC
karmic grotto
And?
feral wing
COME ON SHADOWBURN
cloud latch
LOL
trail lodge
Thats why hes not at Owwc lol
karmic grotto
Doesn't mean SK will be stronger if he is there
feral wing
ANDO
night tusk
OMFG
feral wing
WHY
heavy plover
France: get a team of contenders players
Also France: Beats South Korea who is the best team with only owl players
trail lodge
But they would be?
night tusk
what a end
karmic grotto
There are alot of owl players not in owwc
trail lodge
Because Bdosin is incredibly medicore
karmic grotto
Same could be said about them
trail lodge
Carpe is straight up bad idek why he's on the team
heavy plover
JE VOUS AIME LES AMIS
feral wing
he's not bad..?
night tusk
idk but are the tech guys stupid or what? how can't they fixed the sound already
trail lodge
Smurf and Tizi proved themselves they have the best Orisa's in the world
mint flower
I hear france beat SK?
heavy plover
FAITES L'AMOUR PAS LA GUERRE
cloud latch
do you guys think sk will be better playing the meta?
heavy plover
@mint flower yes
trail lodge
Carpe is a widow tracer 2 trick
mint flower
Damn
feral wing
Fuck man I was rooting for russia and my boy shadowburn
night tusk
Sinatraa best Rein but everyone forgat
feral wing
why does shadowburn suddenly become a god when playing for russia
trail lodge
The fact SK didn't bring Rascal is a crime
cloud latch
taimou best winston
karmic grotto
And that's why you shouldn't hold a discussion when you don't even know why Carpe is in the team
night tusk
the fact that profit never played for team SK is a crime
karmic grotto
Explain?
raw ermine
gg
balmy wolf
nice denmark
trail lodge
Carpe was shit this year
feral wing
fuck man as a Norwegian I cant really be mad at denmark but as a shadowburn and therefore team russia fan I have to be
karmic grotto
Explain why he is in the team
trail lodge
He peaked in 2018 and is so washed up he might as well be on the Fuel
feral wing
night tusk
they had to let Arhan play for this year 
raw ermine
The reason they aren't at full power is due to many players abstaining from trying out in order to prepare for the OWL playoffs
trim shadow
pretty much
trail lodge
@karmic grotto Explain to me why Benbest has a OWL contract but Aimgod is a free agent
Carpe is so bad
Theres better Sk dps
feral wing
ok so russia needs to beat netherlands and then play well against china or even beat them and they should be in a good position to move on, right?
trail lodge
on every hero he plays
cloud latch
I heard aimgod was toxic
karmic grotto
Because París can't release players who have a 2 year contract, they need to buyout their whole salary and they aren't gonna do that
feral wing
Diem is a bit overrated honestly
karmic grotto
Aimgod is a free agent as any other released Boston player
trim shadow
buyout their contract or trade there contract @karmic grotto
feral wing
but I see your point
trail lodge
Why dont you tell me why Carpe is on the team @karmic grotto
night tusk
my teamsk roster would be mano choi rascal profit striker slime jjonak
trail lodge
No
feral wing
well jjonak didnt want to play this year I believe
like you have to realize that some players dont want to play in the world cup
so your choices are limited
trim shadow
most of there players decided not to play wc to focus on owl
trail lodge
Smurf,Choi,Rascal,Striker,Viol2t and Annamo starter 6 with Haksal as a sub dps
trim shadow
or they just straight didnt wanna play wc
night tusk
FeelsBadMan that this guy from finland did not play
cloud latch
shock
feral wing
you have to choose from south korea's top 12 honestly
karmic grotto
Crusty, the COACH of South Korea trialed many Korean players and Carpe had one of the best performances out of them despite not having his best time this year with the meta
balmy wolf
well you cant force players to play in the WC
trail lodge
This is the worst Sk team
night tusk
actually my teamSK would be Miro Zunba Esca Whoru Ryujehong Tobi
balmy wolf
bruh its one loss calm down lol
trail lodge
Nah dude
karmic grotto
@green stump I have one of those hardstuck topic points here lmao
balmy wolf
only took 3 years to beat them in 1 series
trail lodge
I was saying this pre blizzcon
cloud latch
I wouldn't say the worst sk team...
feral wing
@trail lodge you cant force players to play in the world cup..
trail lodge
That the SK roster compared to last years is bad
balmy wolf
Bruh just watch the games and see how it turns out
trail lodge
@feral wing Yes but that dosen't make Carpe good now does it
feral wing
youre talking about the entire roster atm
night tusk
i'm sure zunba with good coaching will be scary again
trail lodge
Ye
balmy wolf
You take everything from face value too much man
trail lodge
Well lets comapare
trail lodge
Sk to team USA
karmic grotto
@balmy wolf sounds no different than a hardstuck player lmao, ever seen my hardstuck list? That's exactly what he does, classic
trim shadow
carpe has the mechanics...but he also has this curse on him..and bad stigma...its more like carpe is collecting rust..and sometimes he shines through it but hes still collecting rust
trail lodge
You can say USA outclasses SK on every role apart from OT and FS
Carpe is all aim no brain
balmy wolf
lol
balmy wolf
who knows maybe they destroy on their next match and everyone realizes SK is still in it
feral wing
well I mean the casters and analysts on the desk of OWL arent better at the game than the actual players, doesnt mean they cant comment on their play
trail lodge
The im irrelevant point
@karmic grotto Don't ever complain about anything popular then because obviously your opinion dosen't matter if your irrelevant to them
karmic grotto
Shall I take the list here and show you exactly what you ve been doing? Sounds no different than a hardstuck player blaming his team for his failures
trim shadow
uk france is up
trim shadow
this should be butt clenchin
trail lodge
are you smoking
balmy wolf
hey look SK is playing rn
feral wing
I found south korea's top 12, want me to list them and then you can build your own roster from it that wouldve been better
karmic grotto
cloud latch
lol they're playing meta now...
karmic grotto
This is ESports
balmy wolf
SK is now destroying
trail lodge
Also we're at the same elo so 
trim shadow
jake lemon is back
karmic grotto
And your elo is?
raw ermine
Which channel is Canada Vs Netherlands on?
trail lodge
Low masters
feral wing
Mano, Choi, Jjanu
Architect, Carpe, Decay, Haksal, Nenne
Anamo, Bdosin, IDK, Kariv
@trail lodge thats SK's 12 players that made it through from tryouts
karmic grotto
Zero knowledge
feral wing
build a better roster from that
hollow dirge
xqc is back
trail lodge
Bruh
feral wing
if youre gonna build a better roster
trail lodge
@karmic grotto Who the fuck are you
little silo
this isnt an esports discussion
trail lodge
Your litterally
fucking
3.5k
Same as me
and your calling me hardstuck ??????????????????????
trim shadow
xqc is in now
little silo
who is canada playing against
feral wing
can you two shut up? no one cares about your rank, its irrelevant to your current discussion. If you are going to argue then use actual valid points, dont just call each other bad.
cloud latch
oh god...
little silo
is it better than sweden vs Korea
hollow dirge
netherlands
karmic grotto
I know more about eSports than you because I am actively participating in discussions here.
trail lodge
@little silo Hey Lenn is Wintone from Sparkcord if you can remember me
karmic grotto
Never seen you comment here beforeb
trail lodge
@karmic grotto Shut the fuck up lol
hidden osprey
can anyone fill me in what's going on so far? SK were getting rolled but are back on track now? Canada lost their first set?
feral wing
holy shit take it to DMs or something
hollow dirge
canada lost to russia
feral wing
agilities had to main tank in that game
little silo
Without Xqc though
trail lodge
I don't need dickheads like you digging into everything I say because your a sad human being
karmic grotto
And you start talking shit about players from SK when you can't even answer why Carpe is in the team. If you're here for a while you should have known that because it was discussed here
feral wing
but I still think russia are stronger
hidden osprey
how the heck did they lost to Russia? 
surely not having xQc on tank wasn't that bad was it?
feral wing
Russia are strong
little silo
Xqc was missing and Russia has pretty good players
feral wing
they have amazing dps
trail lodge
Yee
hidden osprey
team USA look like they won every set so far?
feral wing
Shadowburn and Nlaeer
trail lodge
Russia is lowkey underrated
little silo
Txao and Nlaaer are fairly good
feral wing
Shadowburn too dont fucking forget him
night tusk
xqc playing wow but lets go netherlands
little silo
And that guy
trail lodge
Ye
balmy wolf
france getting bodied rn
feral wing
he has literally been carrying team russia through several fights
trail lodge
Sdb was popping off vs Denmark
feral wing
turns out hes a really good doomfist
trail lodge
AHAHAH
little silo
I'm more interested in Txao here
trail lodge
Stupid frenchies 
trim shadow
i wonder if boston signed vizility
little silo
architect lived that?
night tusk
YEahh
spring lintel
canada so bad LUL
night tusk
the twitch chat is half dutch LUL
trail lodge
@spring lintel Nah dude Netherlands good
cloud latch
what team is snillo on?
little silo
netherlands look really good this year
spring lintel
i believe it that canada got stomped by saudi arabia in scrims
trail lodge
I don't
little silo
Snillo is on Sweden
night tusk
imo kinda weird that 5/6 OWL players (finland) get rekt 3-0 by the netherlands. wonder if the game itself is weird or the singings
trail lodge
Not really
night tusk
maybe ow is just rng and skill not matters