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balmy wolf
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sp9rk1e is nuts

feral wing
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I hate it

balmy wolf
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im eu too

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but i see why they're doing this

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cuz lets admit it

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eu isn't the strongest region

feral wing
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its pretty damn strong honestly

balmy wolf
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and eu doesn't produce strong main tanks

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eu produces damn good flex supports tho

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every decent eu main tank player ends up being a rein onetrick

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everyone thought fusions was good at the beginning of the season but later on his inability to play orisa cost boston

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well not inability

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just mediocrity

feral wing
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EU main tanks arent the strongest

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agreed

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but

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Shadowburn, Soon, Neptuno, Poko, Boombox, Fragi, Shaz, Biggoose, Logix, Lullsish and ellivote, Spree, Shax, Davin, Onigod, Decod, Linkzr, Masaa, Taimou, Ripa, Akm, Unkoe, Fusions, All of Clockwork Vendetta, Harryhook, Snillo, Funnyastro, Kruise, Kyb, Numlocked

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sorry for a long list

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but those are just some of the greatest EU players

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you could build one hell of a roster from that

queen drift
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Shadowburn is washed

feral wing
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I may have even forgotten some players there

queen drift
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soon is washed

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neptuno isnt good

balmy wolf
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that's true, but i believe that some of the "paris should have remained all eu" people will become drawn back to paris when they see there's results

trim shadow
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less washed more bad coaching..cause sdb and soon both had pop off moments and were decently trying to carry while the rest of paris was being pepega

feral wing
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^^^^

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and Neptuno is really good

queen drift
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poko, boom, fragi, spree, davin, onigod, decod, taimou, ripa, akm, fusions, hhook, kruise, numlocked are all bad or overrated

feral wing
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what the fuck?

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this has to be a troll

balmy wolf
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many people in 2017 when they saw the london roster were cracking korean spitfire jokes then shut up when they did well and won the whole thing

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i agree with some of them

trim shadow
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spree yes...the rest..get the dick out your ass

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oh and kruise

balmy wolf
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boombox and poko are good

feral wing
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Fragi is good

balmy wolf
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ehhh

queen drift
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you think Fragi, Spree, Taimou, Fusions, hhook are all good?

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you high?

feral wing
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Taimou

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I mentioned him because of his past

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honestly

balmy wolf
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taimou kinda washed

feral wing
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Fusions is mediocre at most tanks but a rein god

queen drift
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he has been dead in the water since before owl started

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hes not even a rein god

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he played well in owwc

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thats.. about it

trim shadow
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hes a rein god a one trick

feral wing
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Onigod and Decod are unproven but still good

trim shadow
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kinda like fraggi

balmy wolf
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tbh that was because team usa didn't practice goats because they thought sombra/doom would be meta

queen drift
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onigod is overrated, decod has no experience

balmy wolf
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individually team usa had stronger members than team uk

feral wing
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you must be the one who is high honestly

trim shadow
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aero was the coach remember

feral wing
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poko bad?

balmy wolf
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team usa is stacked this year tho

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they got a lot of talent and rawkus

trim shadow
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yeet

balmy wolf
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so should be fun

queen drift
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i didnt say poko was bad, YOU said that EU was a strong region

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then you listed a bunch of not great players

sullen berry
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@queen drift that name change really threw me off RAEV

queen drift
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raev itself was a name change

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its fox

sullen berry
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it's too late

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already used to Rร†V

queen drift
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ez

feral wing
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I listed a bunch of great players, some previous stars, some at best decent players, you proceeded to call several of them overrated or washed when they arent

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EU might not be the strongest region it still sits behind NA and Korea

queen drift
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Shadowburn, Soon, Neptuno, Poko, Boombox, Fragi, Shaz, Biggoose, Logix, Lullsish and ellivote, Spree, Shax, Davin, Onigod, Decod, Linkzr, Masaa, Taimou, Ripa, Akm, Unkoe, Fusions, All of Clockwork Vendetta, Harryhook, Snillo, Funnyastro, Kruise, Kyb, Numlocked

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this is your list

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you still stand by it yes?

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because i will go thru each and every plyer

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and explain why they are bad

sullen berry
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I couldn't tell you by metrics or the intangibles

feral wing
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go ahead and waste your time if you wish

sullen berry
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this can be a worse roster without considering who in Clockwork is good

balmy wolf
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not all of the players on that list are bad

queen drift
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Shadowburn is a genji/pharah two trick in a meta where genji is and has been dead for 2 years, and even when he plays genji he falls behind because of his passive blade usage

balmy wolf
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at least poko boombox biggoose shaz logix masaa and funnyastro are good

feral wing
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Shadowburn can play more than genji and pharah

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he is a projectile player

balmy wolf
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tbh shadowburn didn't impress a whole lot

queen drift
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SoOn was great on valiant but hasnt lived up to the name since then, he had no standout performances on paris or france, making him washed

feral wing
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he had several standout moments in stage 4

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both of these players struggled in a meta not suited for them

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doesnt make them washed

queen drift
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Neptuno is a mercy otp who only got attention because of blaster kills

feral wing
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Hes a better lucio than mercy and can play many main supports at a high level

queen drift
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Poko was decent, but again only got attention because of his bombs, he very quickly fell behind most other dvas in SEASON 1 let alone season 2

feral wing
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what?

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If you seriously believe that

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I dont know what to tell you

trim shadow
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clockwork is one of those teams you have to sign together to the best out of all of them

queen drift
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Boombox is decent but he doesnt standout, at all, even in western off supports hes not the best

feral wing
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watch some more philly games

queen drift
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Fragi looks good in comparison to Sado, watch him play on team finland and you'll watch him getting dicked by guxue or any other mt on winston

trim shadow
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if a player doesnt stand out in the eye test that means hes excelling in the stat test 5 times out of 10

queen drift
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even compared to sado only his rein was standout

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shaz is good

trim shadow
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and then you have rawkus who didnt pass the eye test or stat test

feral wing
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your reasoning for the players youve mentioned so far has been quite bad honestly so I hope you have some better points further down the line

queen drift
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goose is good

digital brook
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How to join team's universities?

queen drift
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logix is okay but he was v inconsistent in season1

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Lullsish and Ellivote dont have experience, cant comment

balmy wolf
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@digital brook check with your university team

sullen berry
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"fusion university" isn't a literal university

balmy wolf
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well lullsish and ellivote looked good in contenders

feral wing
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Logix started off bad and got a lot better during season 1 and now hes really good

queen drift
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yep, agreed on the contenders comment but how that will keep up in owl idk

feral wing
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lullsish and ellivote are pretty good if you look at the contenders games

balmy wolf
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logix actually kinda popped on a bad defiant

queen drift
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i dont even need to comment on spree

balmy wolf
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spree kinda zarya onetrick

feral wing
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true

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agreed there

queen drift
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Shax is alright but ๐Ÿคท he doesnt stand out

feral wing
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what?

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..

queen drift
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Davin is good and deserves OWL

digital brook
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Wasn't thinking about them being literal, I wanna know how I can join

queen drift
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Onigod is overrated, he's good but hes not like.. great..

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Decod I don't know much about

sullen berry
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academy teams with a main OW League team have their own methods of recruitment @digital brook

pearl stratus
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Get 4500, Join Open Division, Get good enough for Contenders, Get to be on the higher end of contenders, join an academy team.

queen drift
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Linkzr is a good widow, thats about it

digital brook
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Do they call out for recruiting?

pearl stratus
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No.

queen drift
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Masaa is great, one of the best MS worldwide

sullen berry
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not exactly

queen drift
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Taimou has been shit since OWL pre season and debateably before that too

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Ripa ๐Ÿคท

feral wing
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Taimou was good before OWL

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dont know what happened

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but hes a famous player

trim shadow
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dallas

queen drift
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he was okay for a small period of time

feral wing
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and worth mentioning

queen drift
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then the koreans got good

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and dicked him

trim shadow
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dallas is what happened to taimou

sullen berry
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all taimou needs to do is play battle mercy/aggressive lucio

pearl stratus
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Not just Taimou. There's very few people of that stature who managed to maintain when the competition caught up.

queen drift
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Mhm

sullen berry
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and he qualifies as a flex dps/support

queen drift
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Were you here for the start endo

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why im mentioning taimou specifically

pearl stratus
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It's anyone from Apex, tbf.

balmy wolf
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@digital brook they'd probably recruit if you were good on other contenders teams

sullen berry
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you're going in circles, initially

pearl stratus
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Name one huge Apex star who still matters.

sullen berry
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don't think he would have missed much

pearl stratus
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And isn't just someone sucking a two year old dick.

digital brook
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Then how to join contenders?

pearl stratus
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Which is just gross and unsanitary.

trim shadow
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go through open division @digital brook

feral wing
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I would say ryujehong but youre probably just gonna call him bad too

balmy wolf
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@digital brook join od and work your way up

trim shadow
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or tryout because your in gm with 4.4k

sullen berry
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well think about it

queen drift
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He's alright, but he's outshined by loads of other, way younger flex supports

pearl stratus
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I would call Jehong midpack now, but not bad.

sullen berry
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the high expectations weren't what you wanted out of the players from apex

digital brook
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Umm sry im new to this part of ow but whats od?

feral wing
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so he still matters then

balmy wolf
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open division

digital brook
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Yea I know

sullen berry
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Libero was the rising star out of a middle of the pack LW Blue

digital brook
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Whats that

sullen berry
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open division

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๐Ÿ˜

feral wing
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there are many apex stars who are still relevant honestly

pearl stratus
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I would also say that the meta shifting the way it did showed how much the game changed from Apex to now.

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Because Jehong looked insane in Apex because of the hero pool he could play with a tight knit team.

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That has not been replicated by Dynasty.

digital brook
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Is it a tournament?

queen drift
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Libero wasnt on LW blue was he?

pearl stratus
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Minus the one throwback play where he Ana killed the riptire.

queen drift
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I thought he was meta athena

digital brook
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Are there teams in it?

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Or solo players?

feral wing
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he got picked up by nyxl before entering owl and nyxl is primarily made up of lw blue

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i believe

queen drift
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yes I am aware

feral wing
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i do not think he was on lw blue

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im not quite sure

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2 sec i can google it

queen drift
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i already did

feral wing
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ah alright

balmy wolf
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so continue your list of eu players

feral wing
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theres no point honestly

queen drift
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where was i on his list

feral wing
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we clearly just disagree on a lot of it and I honestly cant see your side on many of those players

pearl stratus
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and yes, libero was only Meta Athena and was the original running joke of the 1v11 meme.

queen drift
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tbh if your list of "the greatest EU players" includes spree, taimou, harryhook

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i dont think anything i say will get thru to u

balmy wolf
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@queen drift you stopped at taimou

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what do you think of funnyastro

feral wing
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taimou was great then he fell off

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spree is a zarya one trick

queen drift
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taimou wasnt great

feral wing
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but they are famous names

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and worth mentioning

queen drift
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he was okay when no one knew how to play the game

feral wing
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thats an odd statement but sure

queen drift
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spree isnt even a good zarya one trick

feral wing
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I think we should probably have a different discussion which is more productive because from my POV
If you believe Poko is a bad or mediocre off tank then I dont think we will get anything out of this discussion

queen drift
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I don't believe poko is a bad offtank, I think he's an average offtank

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but you said that EU was a very strong region

feral wing
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did I?

queen drift
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and you listed these players as the greatest talent eu has to offer

balmy wolf
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is funnyastro good in your eyes @queen drift

sullen berry
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@digital brook all the info you need is here for a start https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/esports/open-division

feral wing
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If I did then i apologize, I meant to say that EU is strong

queen drift
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i keep typing my answer then deleting to answer this guy

feral wing
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when people say EU is weak I disagree

queen drift
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i dont like astro as a person

balmy wolf
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why

queen drift
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ladder experiences

balmy wolf
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oh

queen drift
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hes a good lucio tho

balmy wolf
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what did he do on ladder

pearl stratus
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He's a toxic little shit fuck, mostly.

queen drift
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^^

balmy wolf
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lool

pearl stratus
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But thats common from EU, supports especially.

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Look at Neptuno.

balmy wolf
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wouldnt surprise me

queen drift
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yup

balmy wolf
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eu players can get toxic af

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i say this as an eu player

pearl stratus
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Still loved watching neptuno vagina monologue rage when Libero wouldn't quit that game.

queen drift
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dhak, unkoe, neptuno, astro

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kruise is a bit of atwat

pearl stratus
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Which is funny since last I saw Dhak couldn't even break out of masters again.

queen drift
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ypuppp

balmy wolf
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i still remember a vod where dhak was raging at his team in ranked when they couldn't counter a pharah, and he was just shouting "THERE ARE ROOMS WITH ROOFS"

pearl stratus
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Kruise is a twat but his is more like.. passionate toxicity more than just being a poster boy for eugenics.

balmy wolf
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and now he's an apex streamer that never gets more than 10 viewers

queen drift
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he used to lock dps a lot

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he had a phase where he wanted to be a genji main

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soft threw for a few months

balmy wolf
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i think he used to be a dps player on a team he played for

queen drift
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he was a main support first

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then he swapped to dps

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then he swapped back

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at some point during his dps phase he moved to korea

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and lots of casters n shit were hyping him up

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hE tRaInEd iN KoReA

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owwc.. 17 i think?

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no maybe 16

balmy wolf
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he's actually quite a popular player in korea

pearl stratus
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That happened to pretty much every spain player.

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Since Spain only produces supports.

queen drift
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i used to really like dhak

balmy wolf
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neptuno is playing dps this year at the world cup

queen drift
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cuz i was a selfless fan

balmy wolf
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dhak couldn't play mercy tho

pearl stratus
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Dhak was only ever useful for his vod review for me, honestly.

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Because he has a good voice for it.

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His vod review of China vs. Canada from 2017 is great.

balmy wolf
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so many lucio players ruined by moth meta

queen drift
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he was one of the only good aggro lucios

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back then

pearl stratus
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I mean Dhak was ruined by honestly not being that good.

balmy wolf
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yeah

pearl stratus
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Hence why when he was dropped in OWL he never got back to GM lol

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and just got stuck in Masters.

queen drift
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this is what i mean with taimou

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players looked good back then

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bc no one knew how to play

pearl stratus
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Taimou still looks good on Ladder, is the sad part.

queen drift
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dhak looked decent on lucio on selfless

digital brook
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How much do they make?

queen drift
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who

digital brook
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Players

pearl stratus
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But I will attribute part of Taimou's issue to Dallas having just garbage fucking coaching.

balmy wolf
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owl players make minimum of 50k a year

digital brook
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Top players

queen drift
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.. what players

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owl players?

pearl stratus
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Because I think Taimou could still be playable.

digital brook
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Yea

pearl stratus
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Just not in that shit show.

digital brook
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Jjonak lets say

queen drift
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i think taimou could be playable if shields go out of meta

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jjonak probably makes a lot

balmy wolf
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the precise salaries aren't released

pearl stratus
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Well thats every hitscan right now.

digital brook
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Like roughly how much

balmy wolf
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they usually get leaked

pearl stratus
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They roughly make 50k minimum.

queen drift
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yeah exactly, but you have players like Sinatraa

balmy wolf
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50k is the minimum salary they have to be paid

queen drift
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Linkzr

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who the fuck else

balmy wolf
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which for a person that age is a fair amount

queen drift
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SBB

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who can somewhat flex

balmy wolf
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especially if they're getting rent and everything paid for them

digital brook
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Since I dont live in us, how much does a doctor make in there a year?

queen drift
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flex for a hitscan

pearl stratus
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Depends how good at it you are.

digital brook
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Average

queen drift
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nothing

balmy wolf
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apparently seagull was getting paid 200k last year according to some reports

pearl stratus
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You'll make average pay then.

queen drift
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seagull is different

digital brook
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Like how much?

queen drift
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he had a brand

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like xqc

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you're not really paying for the player

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you're paying for their jersey, or their stream

balmy wolf
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@digital brook i think it really depends on the team and the skill level of the player

pearl stratus
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If you're an average doctor you can make as low as like.. 65k.

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Because average for a doctor means you're shit.

balmy wolf
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boston reportedly only pays bare mimimum

queen drift
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and soon LA

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valiant

balmy wolf
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yeah

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they spent all their money on their cod team

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and bailing optic out

queen drift
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how many LAV players can you fit inside Decays salary

pearl stratus
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Boston is relatively known for doing that, the Kraft group at least.

queen drift
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5

balmy wolf
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lav don't even have a full roster yet

queen drift
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i think

balmy wolf
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and apparently toronto got kariv and agilities for a combined 140k

queen drift
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honestly bargain

balmy wolf
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when teams were offering like 250k for kariv alone

pearl stratus
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That was just for buyouts, not salaries.

balmy wolf
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ik

queen drift
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Toronto is looking nasty tbh

pearl stratus
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Also business wise it was because they needed to lose both of them, and probably feared they wouldn't be able to sell agilities solo.

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Toronto coaching is looking untested.

unreal tulip
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jjonak is my father

pearl stratus
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Which means their roster really doesn't matter.

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No he's not.

balmy wolf
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tbh the agilities/kariv duo is a brand in itself

pearl stratus
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Because Jjonak doesn't make mistakes.

balmy wolf
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holy shit

unreal tulip
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wow

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feels bad man

balmy wolf
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you just ended him

digital brook
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I never get it, why top players are getting paid

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Like whats the reason

queen drift
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because they are good

digital brook
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Good at what?

pearl stratus
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... I'm more confused on how that confuses you.

queen drift
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the game

digital brook
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Playing video games

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Thats just funny

pearl stratus
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Oh wait, arne't you the idiot who asks what team KarQ is on?

queen drift
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Are you good?

pearl stratus
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I didn't realie it for a minute.

digital brook
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Are they getting paid for entertaining?

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Like a movie star?

queen drift
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they're getting paid for competing

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its exactly the same premise of professional sports

pearl stratus
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Good luck with the downsy troll.

queen drift
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yea ik

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hes the ml7 guy

digital brook
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Hmm so u put it like professional sports

queen drift
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mhm

balmy wolf
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im lookin at toronto roster

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toronto kinda stacked

digital brook
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Thanks for clarifying

balmy wolf
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they just need a main support now

queen drift
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i wouldnt be surprised if they yoink astro

balmy wolf
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philly probably paying astro big bucks

queen drift
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hes not gonna get playtime on atl other than travel

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oh fuck

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yeah

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he swapped

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nvm

balmy wolf
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tbh i was kinda hoping that astro would go with kodak to a team

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but nvm

queen drift
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kodak isnt quite owl level ihmo

balmy wolf
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hmm

queen drift
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hes substitute level

feral wing
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idk man the cameras are pretty good

balmy wolf
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but i love astro so any team he starts on im a fan of

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im wondering what toronto's plan for roky is

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since he's now two-way

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i think one of the whole reasons he didn't play a lot later in the season is that aid had experience in mixed rosters and roky didnt

raw ermine
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Yeah I think roky didn't know English well cause they played him near the start when we had lots of Koreans but idk.

hidden vault
halcyon fox
bronze scroll
vagrant niche
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are we rdy?

limber pine
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for

vagrant niche
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world cup

halcyon fox
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yee

limber pine
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halcyon fox
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unsure which one i should watch, my heart says ireland. my head says nz/austria

limber pine
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watch all of them!

halcyon fox
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eh, vods exist

trim shadow
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i guess theese are online matches

rare magnet
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what does BYE mean in the bracket

dusky canopy
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They're one of the higher ranked teams in the bracket and get a "bye" to the next round automatically

rare magnet
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A bye in sports (and certain other competitions) refers to organizers scheduling a competitor to not participate in a given round of competition, due to one of several circumstances.
In knock-out (single-elimination) tournaments this can be granting a special
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halcyon fox
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BYE stands for Bring Your Egg

limber pine
rare magnet
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contenders stream working iceland ireland match going on now

halcyon fox
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yeooo

rich pumice
trim shadow
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matches have started but not my audio

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oh fuck

halcyon fox
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i've got commentary but no game audio

trim shadow
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my streams are choppedd

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i think its cause of multistream

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ireland vs iceland started but the stream is basically unwatchable from all the chop

halcyon fox
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denmark has also started and they also have no in game audio

trim shadow
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thats on owwc2 right

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im gettin buffers on both of them

halcyon fox
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i'm not using multistream and it seems fine at 1080/60

limber pine
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I'm using the multistream and i don't have any buffering

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though tbf only two streams are going

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Spain/Norway up on owwc1

trim shadow
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for me the stream foes for 2-5 seconds then stops

limber pine
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NZ/Austria on OWL

trim shadow
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so it could be something on my end

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spain norway seemed to have started to but the screen is just showing the players

limber pine
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Norway playing Orisa/Reinhardt

trim shadow
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new zealend austria is now starting as well

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new zealend has a korean?..dh

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well actually they couldve moved to kiwi land and taken up residency

limber pine
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who

trim shadow
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idk none of the nz players but he looks korean

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and i have the contenders channel up on a seperate screen and its running smoothly so maybe my laptop cant handle 5 streams

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sideshow and bren must be casting the playoverwatch stream

halcyon fox
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ireland iceland has been pretty good so far

trim shadow
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im still tryna make sure the streams are running smooth i think i got them to run but there still chopping but not as badly when the games started

karmic grotto
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owwc is not working

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aren't they playing it in the building?

trim shadow
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i think its a online pre lim and all the casters are under one building

halcyon fox
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yeah

karmic grotto
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lame

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โ™ฟ

trim shadow
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they might be trying to stream on one internet connection

limber pine
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all of them seem fine to me

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just a lot of downtime between maps

trim shadow
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italy and ireland seems to have not moved at all

halcyon fox
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ireland are on the contenders stream and they've just finished map 1

limber pine
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well yeah that's the one I quess

halcyon fox
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hollywood time

karmic grotto
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fucking heck

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bastion bunker

limber pine
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Baconjack/won brutally murdering Denmark

halcyon fox
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ireland running pulled pork there

karmic grotto
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?

limber pine
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@trim shadow I think signed is the player you're talking about

trim shadow
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yea the korean chineese looking guy

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im gonna assume he was born in one of those countrys but maybe moved to kiwi land

karmic grotto
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chinese taipei looking good

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how does sombra reaper even work?

trim shadow
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onigod lowkey looking cracked

karmic grotto
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what team he plays again?

trim shadow
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hes with norway

halcyon fox
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ireland pause

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oop

trim shadow
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italy india must be later on or sum

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the stream has audio but

limber pine
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Austria has a flex support called cheesyjuices

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eck

karmic grotto
trim shadow
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norway looks like theyre clapping spain

limber pine
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spain only has good supports

karmic grotto
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but neptuno not playing support?

halcyon fox
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spain has harryhook this year yeah?

trim shadow
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look at colourhex hitting his strides

karmic grotto
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let's put an owl dps on dps

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monkaS we will win now for sure! carry us mr hex

halcyon fox
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i mean denmark have shax

trim shadow
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so uh onigod fucking killed pharmacy without tank mode

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turrent*

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relax onigod its pre lims save ur power for groups

halcyon fox
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i've been watching for about 30 seconds whilst the irish game is paused and how fast is he building that ult god

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iceland are really good at quickly turning teamfights, oof

faint skiff
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yooo when is canada playing

karmic grotto
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this is boring

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bunker comp bastion

halcyon fox
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ireland aren't running the current meta which is nice

limber pine
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NZ clapping Austria

feral wing
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to all the people picking spain to beat norway

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yeah sure

halcyon fox
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lol

lost jacinth
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ireland v iceland is a good match rn

little silo
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I dont think anyone picked spain over Norway

feral wing
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many people did

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probs cus they didnt watch eurocup or their showmatch

little silo
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or the roster

feral wing
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but norway has beat spain 5-0 in a showmatch and 3-0 in the eurocup

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so like

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and so far norway are up 2-0

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11-0 map record incoming

trim shadow
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whos the female player on norway? again

feral wing
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meemyo I believe

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decod POG

trim shadow
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she looks like fran

little silo
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ireland my god

halcyon fox
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yeah what gives

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busan was actually fairly even

feral wing
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link to ireland vs iceland?

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what stream

halcyon fox
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contenders

lost jacinth
little silo
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Yeah contenders

halcyon fox
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now when iceland see an opening they absolutely roll over ireland

little silo
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should be an easy 2-0

lost jacinth
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ireland's dps doesn't measure up to iceland's i think..

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yea

halcyon fox
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iceland's tank lineup is pretty competent too

little silo
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Ireland doesnt measure up to Iceland in general

lost jacinth
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pureirish was good

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so was buckle but he choked

limber pine
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wow chinese taipei actively throwing

halcyon fox
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yeah he didn't even throw out a blizzard on that last point

little silo
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he did but it was in a 2v6 in OT

lost jacinth
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i think he lost faith in the team a bit and tried to make a solo play to save it

trim shadow
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austraia going dive hello

lost jacinth
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got caught out and punished iceland's just so much more disciplined

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not to mention.. double shield yuck

halcyon fox
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yeah

pearl stratus
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I mean no one actually expected Ireland to win.

little silo
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true

pearl stratus
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They're playing well enough its not a complete embarassment.

lost jacinth
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im glad they played off meta heroes tho

halcyon fox
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only thing getting past a double shield is maybe a fully charged sym

pearl stratus
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That's a win for them.

halcyon fox
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which i'd absolutely love to see

lost jacinth
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i enjoyed watching ireland more than iceland lul

pearl stratus
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It's not like they're Austria.

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Which is playing a Genji.

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That's just giving up forever.

lost jacinth
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rip genji

karmic grotto
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DIVE

pearl stratus
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Genji isn't even a dive hero anymore.

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Genji is the hero you specialize in when you don't want to go pro.

halcyon fox
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or your name is haksal

trim shadow
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tbh that was some of the worst dive ive seen in a while..nice throw austria

pearl stratus
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I mean Haksal plays Genji, he stopped specializing in it a while back. Hence picking up one of the best Brigs etc.

halcyon fox
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he has a decent doomfist as well tbf

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not quite on the level of sinatraa or youngjin but yeah

trim shadow
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so is australia new zealend up or is it hong kong paraguay

halcyon fox
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probably HK/PAR

trim shadow
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ez 3-0

halcyon fox
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ooh, denmark and taiwan are one map a piece

trim shadow
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hong kong should go ahead and make groups just so the memes can flow

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it will be even more of a riot if they be CT

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but ct is on the other side of the bracket i believe

pearl stratus
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Denmark should be fine, they have more overall talent.

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They just forgot how Sombra works for map 1.

halcyon fox
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i trust shax to not do anything silly so

feral wing
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norway wins 3-0

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my prediction comes true

trim shadow
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thats a jjonak style coalescence

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ireland iceland died wonder whats going on

feral wing
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wait denmark vs chinese taipei is close?

trim shadow
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ye

feral wing
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wat

spring lintel
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12k lol

trim shadow
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i think leave being sick is hurting CT

spring lintel
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When will this end ?

mint flower
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what is chinas dps now

feral wing
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you should be able to buy OWWC skin sets in-game honestly

mint flower
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I know jinmus on the team

feral wing
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would love to support norway in the actual game

pearl stratus
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lmao

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Its not that China.

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China Taipei is Taiwan.

limber pine
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what's the ireland/iceland score

halcyon fox
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2-0 iceland

pearl stratus
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Ireland 0 Potatos.

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Iceland 2 Potatoes.

trim shadow
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so phillipines colombia is next up on owwc1

halcyon fox
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ooh

trim shadow
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that must mean india italy will play at the same time as them

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also i thought kellex was a kiwi

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unless im hearing the name wrong

limber pine
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nope

trim shadow
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i hope onigod got offered after seeing that performance just now..track wasnt half bad either

feral wing
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where is that guy who said onigod was overrated earlier

trim shadow
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norway making a run in owwc will be legendary

feral wing
halcyon fox
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ireland game still paused

trim shadow
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but then again SK is stacked and crusty is leading them so

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sk gold medal again

feral wing
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yeah I dont see Norway winning world cup xD

pearl stratus
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That wasn't a notable performance by Onigod.

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They literally played a dead corpse.

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The casters OD team could have beaten Austria.

trim shadow
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not notable but was pretty impressive

feral wing
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norway didnt play austria?

trim shadow
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it was better then what ever the fuck austria was

pearl stratus
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None of these games today have been "good"

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Denmark v. Taipei is only tied because Denmark Boston'd the shit out of playing a Sombra.

trim shadow
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CT denmark is close..but if leave wasnt sick CT wouldve rolled

feral wing
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nah

halcyon fox
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busan w/ ireland and iceland was good

pearl stratus
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You don't even know the right teams Rusha, shaddup.

halcyon fox
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hollywood was just a washout

pearl stratus
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Chinese Taipei is Taiwan. Leave was never on the team lmao

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That's just regular ol' China.

feral wing
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I still dont understand why you guys are talking about Austria when discussing Norway

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Norway played Spain..

pearl stratus
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Oh they played Spain.

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Which is basicalyl the same thing.

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Spain hasn't been worth a WC slot since 2016

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Either way they prove themselves playing real teams.

feral wing
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I want to see Iceland upset UK

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so we get Iceland vs Norway

pearl stratus
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Spain didn't even get a single %, did they?

feral wing
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as a Norwegian I wouldnt even mind if Norway got beaten out by Iceland

trim shadow
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oh right chineese and its territory disputes

feral wing
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Iceland are our brothers

trim shadow
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theres china theres CT and hong kong

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i shouldve know cause bacon is the only taiwaneese in owl

halcyon fox
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ah ireland are back

pearl stratus
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As a side note - I'm not sure why people were getting upset that not enough of these slaughters were able to make it to Blizzcon lol

feral wing
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because they didnt even get a chance to compete

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its quite obvious why people are upset

trim shadow
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just people and nationalistic pride that clouts there view of real life

feral wing
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teams like Israel who were actually really good just couldnt make it because they didnt get the funding

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its not fair

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all teams should get a chance to compete

halcyon fox
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thankfully i'm scottish and i'm used to doing terribly internationally

pearl stratus
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Israel didn't even attempt to crowd source.

feral wing
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they shouldnt have had to

pearl stratus
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I don't expect a company to fly a bunch of garbage for free.

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That's stupid.

vivid snow
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when does team Canada and team USA play?

feral wing
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Israel werent garbage

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not even close

trim shadow
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i dont know if this is real fake or a troll i have not a clue

feral wing
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what is said in it?

limber pine
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it's a real announcement

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their pickups

trim shadow
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Dreamer - Main tank - Sydney Drop Bears
McGravy - Flex Tank - Re-signed
Apply - Flex DPS - Revival
Slur - Flex Support - Samsung Morning Stars
Lastro - Flex Support - Skyfoxes

sullen berry
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Scuffed as it may be

mint flower
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lastro/slur/dreamer/mcgravy/apply

karmic grotto
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They have potential

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Gotta follow Boston route

pearl stratus
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It's scuffed on purpose

karmic grotto
trim shadow
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i only know apply and mcgravy who the fucked are the other signings

halcyon fox
pearl stratus
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The video is from the valiant's youtube page lmao

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It's not like it was a hidden source.

halcyon fox
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it's why the leaks were in inverted commas ๐Ÿ˜„

trim shadow
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they saw custa accidently leaked other signings so they said yea were going to roll with this way of announcing players

pearl stratus
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It's an interesting roster, it has some potential. But I'm not expecting it to go bananas.

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I'm still surprised no one tried to pick up Custa, even if it was for a minimum more than LAV was giving him. Kind of expected houston to make a stab, honestly.

trim shadow
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its a boston style signing where they pick up underrated or under the radar players from regions that dont get alot of love

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and then they pop off mid season

pearl stratus
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Most of them aren't too under the radar, they're just questionable.

trim shadow
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well id assume theese kind of signings fall in line with what most leakers say

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lav taking a step back and not going for a super team

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low risk unknown reward

mint flower
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has LAV picked up Shax's option yet?

limber pine
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in a vacuum, they're all good pickups

trim shadow
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hafficool lol

halcyon fox
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oof, that sindri 4k

trim shadow
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shax left i believe

limber pine
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all the to the same team though? remains to be seen

trim shadow
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so why wasnt hafficool signed last season?

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unproven

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or just goats

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flexg nooo you cant do that babyy

halcyon fox
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welp

brittle hull
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just got 5 ads Pog

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What happened?

halcyon fox
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ireland got walked, haffi popped off

brittle hull
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Rip

trim shadow
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haffi just fucking taimou/pine'd ireland

limber pine
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AUZ/NZ is up

brittle hull
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Does anyone know when the UK game is>?

halcyon fox
#

finnsi was pretty on point as well

trim shadow
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wait custa skipped owwc this year

limber pine
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they're up next vs Iceland

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@brittle hull

trim shadow
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why the fuck is this dudes name tongue

limber pine
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why not

brittle hull
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@limber pine Thanks

trim shadow
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thats weireder then lulsish ellivote and hafficool

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weirder*

halcyon fox
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lulsish sounds like a youtube poop gag

sullen berry
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the tongue is key when it comes to the Maori Haka

trim shadow
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isnt punk one of those popular hes gonna make owl s3 guys

sullen berry
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Also shown in the Warriors esports logo

feral wing
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so who is winning, UK or Iceland?

halcyon fox
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it's not kicked off yet

sullen berry
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Punk should be signed for the dual citizenship

feral wing
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well yeah I know

halcyon fox
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watching our mates in the colonies in the meantime

feral wing
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i wonder what peopls predictions are

sullen berry
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That in itself is valuable comparing with other AUS off tanks

feral wing
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mine is UK in a close match

sullen berry
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are you watching the correct channel?

trim shadow
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colourhex is basically playing ladder against CT

sullen berry
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I've followed Owwc1 and owwc2 but you'll have to check which group they belong to

halcyon fox
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aus/nz is on OWL

limber pine
sullen berry
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I'm at work, will check it out tomorrow

brittle hull
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I wish they had tomorrows game scheduled so I could know if I was missing a Canada game because of class

karmic grotto
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Would be nice if I could see who's on fire

halcyon fox
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denmark are through, no surprises there

pearl stratus
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The Kiwis are playing better than they've played any year before, from memory.

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They might end up the team to watch

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In terms of cinderella stories

brittle hull
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@pearl stratus The kiwis last fight was so good

feral wing
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nah NZ are losing to australia

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denmark then beats australia and denmark moves on

brittle hull
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I dont know about that one chief

feral wing
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denmark are really good

karmic grotto
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owl player losing to rando wanna be contenders

feral wing
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and Australia are better than NZ imo

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but no matter which one of them wins I still think Denmark will beat them and move on to the group stages

pearl stratus
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@karmic grotto You mean all of Canada, US and UK last year losing to China?

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Also Finland.

karmic grotto
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??

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nah

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Talking about aus vs nz match

trim shadow
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jungle and august are od right

pearl stratus
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I know, I'm just saying that's not really that bad.

trim shadow
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i dont think ive seen joker and pilis either

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or signed

pearl stratus
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It's one OWL person per team.

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Colourhex v. Trill in terms of OWL.

limber pine
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NZ doesn't have scrubs

sullen berry
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Signed should have been signed back in 2017

pearl stratus
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Versus Canada v. China last year was 5 OWL v. 6 Chinese.

karmic grotto
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denmark oof

sullen berry
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His talents weren't at his peak and it shows

karmic grotto
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Signed is doing pretty well

feral wing
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it was kinda obvious that denmark were gonna win

karmic grotto
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right?

feral wing
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people are underrating denmark

sullen berry
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Dude went to the same high school

pearl stratus
#

Signed didn't have the pool for the 2017 meta.

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That would have been a crazy foresight pick up

sullen berry
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So I know it personally how difficult the stigma would have been going pro

pearl stratus
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Makes sense why he wasn't.

trim shadow
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the meta could chaange before febuary btw

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but i doubt hell be any different

karmic grotto
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IT will change

pearl stratus
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He's picked up some flex now, actually.

trim shadow
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if any owwc players get signed it will have to be within 2 weeks cause roster deadline is on the 15th in 3 weeks

karmic grotto
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once new hero will be announced

pearl stratus
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So it makes Signed more valuable now vs. 2017 insanely.

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In 2017 I think he was still primarily just McCree/Widow, if my memory is correct.

feral wing
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UK vs Iceland is live

pearl stratus
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and his Widow was strong for the area, but not for the world.

feral wing
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as a Norwegian

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GO ICELAND

trim shadow
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the new hero is echo i believe..and of all honesty kinda tired of of seeing only tank and support new heros

brittle hull
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What's everyone's OWL team?

feral wing
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Icelands flag is like a less complicated UK flag

trim shadow
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iceland uk is up

karmic grotto
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wow

vivid snow
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when does team canada play?

karmic grotto
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clutch fight

trim shadow
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wait a minute why is uk stacked

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what the fuck is that

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kyb fusions funnyastro and boombox

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and ive seen ksp's name a little in contenders but thats disgusting

feral wing
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smex too

brittle hull
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NZ vs AUS game is nuts

feral wing
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and they have kruise on the bench I believe

karmic grotto
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Same reason as you could argue why Canada is stacked, China, SK, US

pearl stratus
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AUS biggest issue, year over year, is sadly supports.

trim shadow
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kruise is french

feral wing
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what no

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lol

pearl stratus
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Australia just doesn't produce crazy good supports.

feral wing
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kruise is british

pearl stratus
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They get some nutty tanks though

trim shadow
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wait..!liquidpedia

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ok he is british

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but he wont start

feral wing
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you never know honestly

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hes not that bad

trim shadow
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funnyastro probably proved himself in trials so he must have something to show us for team uk

feral wing
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considering how he is starting over kruise atm and got picked up by philly?

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yeah

pearl stratus
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Astro is probably 'more fresh' too.

feral wing
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the man must have popped off

pearl stratus
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Since he just played in Gauntlet.

trim shadow
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is hafficool single handly dicking team uk...bloody hell

pearl stratus
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Hafficool is confusing to me, and the only reason I feel like he wasn't picked up is that Paris went Parisian/Korean, not EU/Korean.

trim shadow
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what the fuck is that

colombia and phillipines litterally have the same jersey

feral wing
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Iceland vs UK is gonna be close

trim shadow
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the colors are just alternat

feral wing
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yeah

minor flame
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Wait are the prelims live now?

feral wing
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thats every jersey

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yep

pearl stratus
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Hafficool has, imo, been decently solid since he got real coaching on London's Academy team.

trim shadow
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thats lazy blizzard

minor flame
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Which one should I watch

feral wing
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I wanna see Iceland vs Norway so we get the battle of the nordic brothers + the Hafficool vs Onigod matchup

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that would be epic

karmic grotto
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iceland wins

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ICELAND WINSSSSS

trim shadow
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@minor flame

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druglands mt is named GTA

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thats fiting for colombia

feral wing
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either OverwatchLeague which is streaming Australia vs NZ or OverwatchContenders which is streaming UK vs Iceland

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both matches are epic

minor flame
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I dont plan on watching all 5 simultaneously

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Lol

pearl stratus
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Australia v. NZ has been like...

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99% v. 100%

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For all three first maps.

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It's insanely close.

feral wing
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Iceland vs UK is going back and forth constantly atm

brittle hull
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Such a good serie^

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series*

minor flame
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Any interesting comps

pearl stratus
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Meta, the teams want to win.

minor flame
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Or is it reaper doom bastion

trim shadow
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kyb has a suprisingly good doom

pearl stratus
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You missed the teams that weren't trying to win, that was more Austria / Ireland.

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Playing a god damn genji in 2019.

minor flame
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I would say hows twitch chat but i already know the answer to that

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I guess ill watch au vs nz

brittle hull
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Finnsi throwing

trim shadow
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what if genji got reworked..into a yasuo but a different kind of yasuo

limber pine
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NICE

trim shadow
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guess he decided none of the offers were worth

pearl stratus
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AU's colors are fucking horrible.

trim shadow
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then sleepy coming back might happen

karmic grotto
#

m

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live viewer has error?

pearl stratus
#

Kangaroo Sigma is so ugly.

trim shadow
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Australia's in game colors are basically vommit

karmic grotto
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not anymore

feral wing
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lol iceland and uk have the same jersey basically

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inverted sleeve colors

tawny sigil
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whats happening now?

feral wing
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and look at uk's picture

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stylosa photobomb

minor flame
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Oh wow its uberx in au vs nz

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Guess i picked right choice

brittle hull
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what is AUS doing

pearl stratus
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It was an attempt at a smart rotation but I don't think they realized NZ was split.

lost jacinth
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what was the score ire vs ice

pearl stratus
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They were trying to take over the cart and set up there so Signed had to play back into them.

karmic grotto
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LOL

lost jacinth
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power went out for me

karmic grotto
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astro tbaggin finsi

brittle hull
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uk up one map

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uk 1-0

karmic grotto
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tbaggin lmao

limber pine
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@lost jacinth ice 3 - 0 ire

thorn wolf
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Genji succ

limber pine
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what happened to italy/india

karmic grotto
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unknown

thorn wolf
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CReaper is the best

jagged crater
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where do u see scores

brittle hull
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UK is just disrespecting Iceland...

halcyon fox
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damned straight

brittle hull
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It's just sad to watch

trim shadow
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I hope kyb landed somewhere

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Maybe gladiators

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Or valiant

jagged crater
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dang ireland 0-3'd?

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by this team getting smashed?

brittle hull
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@jagged crater yeah they kind of got slapped

jagged crater
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quite a wide skill diff between the teams

trim shadow
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They didnt as slapped as bad austria did

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Get*

jagged crater
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UK is 4 OWL players, 2 contenders

halcyon fox
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UK also finished 4th last year

brittle hull
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i didnt watch the austria game was it bad?

limber pine
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italy/india starting on /playoverwatch

trim shadow
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It was bad

brittle hull
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RIP

trim shadow
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It was basically gm vs bronze

brittle hull
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LOL

karmic grotto
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I am spectating Smex, and he has odd decisions

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Seems like his teammates cover alot of his mistakes

jagged crater
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where is kruise

trim shadow
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U got a pro viewer for owwc how?

jagged crater
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did he not want to play?

limber pine
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oh god bren/sidshow casting it

trim shadow
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@jagged crater warming the bench as he should

halcyon fox
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astro and boombox are holding the fort fairly well tbf

karmic grotto
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@trim shadow install it

limber pine
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pretty sure kruise is their 7th

karmic grotto
limber pine
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i could be wrong

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yeah kruise is their 7th

jagged crater
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custa not playing for aus?

karmic grotto
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Bruh

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I see pro players having bad decision

limber pine
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no custa said he wouldn't

lost jacinth
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2-0 daym

brittle hull
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NZ's bunker is gross

karmic grotto
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nz can only win with bunker

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boring comp

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zzzz

sullen berry
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But it's so good at the same time

lost jacinth
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bunker sucks

jagged crater
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where is chipsa

limber pine
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they won the first map without bunker comp?

karmic grotto
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in the home of his gf

lost jacinth
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i hated that about the owl final too

karmic grotto
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hate nyxl

trim shadow
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Im off to work so cant install pro view

karmic grotto
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nyxl were the first one to do it

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freaking nyxl new coach came with bunker meta

sullen berry
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This is the closest NZ gets to their super GOATs roster

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If not one of two possible combinations

brittle hull
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RIP

karmic grotto
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Kruise finally here

limber pine
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India playing ashe

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neat

lost jacinth
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new meta

trim shadow
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Off meta nicee

lost jacinth
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nicee

karmic grotto
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REALLY?

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let me check real quic

lost jacinth
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1-0

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to italy

limber pine
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not anymore

halcyon fox
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aus/nz 1-1 now

brittle hull
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australia coming in clutch

limber pine
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NZ should have won

jagged crater
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NZ holding hands oh gosh

brittle hull
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^^^

sullen berry
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Okey dokey

brittle hull
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true

sullen berry
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I've seen enough already

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Australia is going to pick up momentum

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And if it gives to map 5

karmic grotto
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Smex keeps dying for no reason

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and gets saved by his teammates

jagged crater
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UK is stomping

karmic grotto
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until they get stomped

sullen berry
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UK better be

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Hows te KSP KYB duo?

halcyon fox
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on point

karmic grotto
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uhm

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Tomorrow other teams play right?

wintry kraken
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NZ vs AUS is confusing when it comes to flags ๐Ÿ˜„

real sorrel
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๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ’™

pearl stratus
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Haffi refusing to commit that Barrage makes me sad.

halcyon fox
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to be fair, widow swap

pearl stratus
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the widow swap was after his window

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This now fucks his barrage so he won't get to use it at all

halcyon fox
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welp

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sindri didn't get shit with that dragon strike

brittle hull
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rip iceland

halcyon fox
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god shave the queen

karmic grotto
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new zealand lmao

pearl stratus
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Haffi using that barrage wouldn't have saved it, but UK cancelled it out hard when he held it.

trim shadow
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F for iceland

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So hey london sign team uk and represent brexit ville yeah?

brittle hull
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NZ ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

trim shadow
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No still full korean all right

pearl stratus
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You're asking an american team to choose a worse option for their team they had to assign to EU ๐Ÿ˜›

worn hornet
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who's casting Philippines v Colombia?

brittle hull
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Who's everyone cheering for in UK vs Norway?

lost jacinth
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some for UK

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some for Norway

brittle hull
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LUL

worn hornet
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UK because Fusions

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and NZ over AUS for Chex

karmic grotto
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I feel bad for some players

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live spectating their mistakes

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missed sleeps, bad positioning

worn hornet
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back to my question, looking at the list I think PHI/COL is Jake & LemonKiwi

limber pine
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yes

worn hornet
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I need to figure out what all the twitch channels are to multi-screen all these matches

brittle hull
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Someone posted a multi stream earlier of all the streams

limber pine
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@worn hornet

worn hornet
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thanks Spooky

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also TIL about multistre.am. I suspect I'll be using it a lot once OWL get to where they're playing multiple matches at once

limber pine
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what a stall by aus

brittle hull
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The BM from chex