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hidden vault Oct 7, 2019, 1:44 PM

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Endoken for Bilzzard Management:p

raw ermine Oct 7, 2019, 1:46 PM

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The game had 200k viewers on twitch during the grand finals and thousands more in person and watching on TV. The game isn't dead.

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 1:49 PM

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we know that

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 1:50 PM

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Btw @limber pine you should pin this:

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https://twitter.com/montecristo/status/1180223178918043648?s=21

MonteCristo (@MonteCristo)

Team option means that an @overwatchleague team gets to make a choice by Oct. 7 to activate that player’s contract at the same rate for an additional year.

Free agent means that if the player/team can’t make a new deal by Oct. 7 then they can make a new deal with any ...

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limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 1:50 PM

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!!owl2020

young fractalBOT Oct 7, 2019, 1:50 PM

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2020 Season Schedule: https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_entry_media/sj/SJ76PUAZCKL71566272656822.pdf
Homecoming: What's New In 2020: https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/23059433
2020 Roster Construction Rules: https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/23051827
r/Overwatch Rosterpocalypse Megathread: https://redd.it/ddap1g

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 1:50 PM

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did you see both of philly's coaches are LFT now?

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 1:51 PM

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Yeah, I expected that.

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I like Hayes, I don't think he worked for their roster. But I also think they need to scrap a chunk of their roster.

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I will -not- be surprised if they trade/let Carpe go.

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I think you want to push to hold onto EQO, you want to let Neptuno/Carpe/Sado go.

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Dip into Contenders for more versatile dps with coachable attitude.

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Pull up your supports and main tank from Contenders. Rebuild FU around their DPS core.

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 1:55 PM

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!!owl2020

young fractalBOT Oct 7, 2019, 1:55 PM

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2020 Season Schedule: https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_entry_media/sj/SJ76PUAZCKL71566272656822.pdf
Homecoming: What's New In 2020: https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/23059433
2020 Roster Construction Rules: https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/23051827
2020 Team needs and Player Contract Status: https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/23178914
r/Overwatch Rosterpocalypse Megathread: https://redd.it/ddap1g

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 1:56 PM

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there I added the team needs

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 1:56 PM

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I'm hoping Spark goes big into the bidding war for Sparkle - that'd lock their roster in really well.

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 1:57 PM

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is sparkle pretty much the Decay of this offseason

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 1:57 PM

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Yeah, though at least this year there's more than just him.

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EM is usually easier to get in pieces than say... Runaway so far.

karmic grotto Oct 7, 2019, 1:57 PM

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Spark has moneys

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bili moneys

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 1:58 PM

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Sparkles main competition for that 'Best new DPS' spot would be Yaki imo.

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And Yaki is part of Runaway, so we'll see how the individual offers go in that.

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Yeah but its more about how your teams money is laid out.

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Because you don't want to go over the soft cap and pay Luxury Tax.

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I'd assume.

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So having money versus how much is available to spend is different.

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I don't think its common enough knowledge that OWL has team salary soft caps + luxury.

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Typically its $1:1, so for whatever value your team goes over the soft cap you pay the league the same amount.

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But they tend to pull more from the NBA model.

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And the NBA model currently is tiered with up to 500% tax.

karmic grotto Oct 7, 2019, 2:02 PM

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well, not only individual offers, could be offers of having multiple players

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 2:02 PM

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Yeah I more mean that say the soft cap is...

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$1,250,000 per team for player salaries per season.

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and the Spark currently has $900k in contracts.

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They could realistically only offer up to 350k before having to pay taxes

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Pure example on the numbers of course, I have no clue what the amounts are.

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Also the league salary being much higher than the minimum salary means teams are already willing to spend money, which is interesting.

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A lot of people theorized that most people were barely above salary min. I never bought into that argument.

karmic grotto Oct 7, 2019, 2:07 PM

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DaLlaS fUeL pAyS hIgH spongebob

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 2:07 PM

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That didn't surprise me either, they're building out as an uncompetitive team with a large fan base.

karmic grotto Oct 7, 2019, 2:08 PM

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That's also an option indeed

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not always you have to be a winner

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 2:08 PM

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And are probably making their salary back on Merch pretty efficiently. They're by far the most "popular" western team.

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Just wish they'd try to win too. You can do both.

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I think their roster has enough talent, they just need to get a good coaching staff not a bloated one.

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I'd, realistically, only dump 1-2 people from their player roster - but I'd dump almost all of their coaches.

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I really want to see what happens to Nevix. It's a huge pick up for anyone, but I also wouldn't be surprised if Shock tried to resign him.

hidden vault Oct 7, 2019, 2:17 PM

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Tbh I think they are (trying to win) if not they would haved fielded more of the og envy

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Or build the team around them

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Sonewhat at least

pale rampart Oct 7, 2019, 2:30 PM

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hey how do you really get into the competitive scene

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like with teams n scrims n all

raw ermine Oct 7, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Get to a high Sr, like 4400 or better in a specific roll. Join a team in open division , do well there, go to contenders , and eventually if yo do well enough there, you might be signed to an owl team, assuming that's your end goal.

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That's the shortened version

naive garden Oct 7, 2019, 3:11 PM

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https://twitter.com/FLMayhem/status/1181223501505519616

Florida Mayhem (@FLMayhem)

Today we'd like to wish a fond farewell to @HAGOPEUN_OW, @RaiN990707, @xepher123, @Creature_OW, @Swon_ow, and @KH1_OW

Thank you all for your efforts this season. You will always be a part of the Mayhem family, and we wish you nothing but the best.

📰» https://t.co/cBm...

▶ Play video

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F5 season in full swing

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 3:12 PM

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yikes

feral wing Oct 7, 2019, 3:13 PM

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lol

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Mayhem back at it again

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dropping almost their entire roster after every season

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 3:15 PM

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All of those make sense minus Hagopeun at least.

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that was their trash roster

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Kris?

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Kris should be gone too.

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I wasn't saying more wouldn't make sense, just that the ones listed do.

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 3:15 PM

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true

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yeah hagopeun should at least be in contenders next year

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Again, rough go for him.

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I'm interested to see Dynasty's pick ups because I no joke think they have a huge advantage to get some of the best Koreans.

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 3:21 PM

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God dammit florida

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Well hagopeun to seoul?

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Thats the only place i can see him landing and starting

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https://twitter.com/BadPachimari/status/1181224713340817411

Bad Pachimari (@BadPachimari)

@FLMayhem @HAGOPEUN_OW @RaiN990707 @xepher123 @Creature_OW @Swon_ow @KH1_OW

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They just signed dpi and hes already released?

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Yo what

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 3:23 PM

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gargoyle is better

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 3:23 PM

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At least xepher and swon were obvious

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Dpi is the flex dps

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 3:23 PM

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or at least in offtank

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what did dpi play instead of roadhog

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 3:24 PM

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Hol up..birdring-> florida? Or ado

torpid charm Oct 7, 2019, 3:28 PM

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🦀XEPHER IS GONE🦀

hidden vault Oct 7, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Why did seoul sign xepher in the 1st place?

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Why did they go with bryem instead of hago lol

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Also mayhem now has only 7 players

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 3:39 PM

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they have until November to get 8

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they have lots of time

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and they shouldn't be done releasing players IMO

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 3:48 PM

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Birdring is gone.

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People need to stop thinking Birdring is a thing.

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He's Fletch.

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 3:54 PM

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maybe they'll look at NUS

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 4:00 PM

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Seoul has such a huge geographical advantage over all the other teams.

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 4:11 PM

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Its basically op

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 4:12 PM

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Watch Shanghai sign a third flex tank and pick up Void to play with his old friends.

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 4:17 PM

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WidowLUL

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 4:30 PM

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https://twitter.com/Seita_ow/status/1181240010760175617

Seita (@Seita_ow)

I'm a free agent, my contract with Paris Eternal has expired, doesn't necessarily mean that I'm leaving the team but I'm free to explore other options as well

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Yeah RHJ confirmed he's a free agent too.

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 4:31 PM

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https://twitter.com/gatamchun/status/1181240844382326784

Ana’s Tal Mask (@gatamchun)

Jehong on stream
“I’m not retiring.
I have gotten some offers. I can’t say from where.” https://t.co/BpesedQvIT

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 4:32 PM

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RHJ wasn't a real issue, minus a meh Mercy so I see him getting picked up.

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 4:33 PM

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seems like Florida would pick him up

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try to at least

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 4:33 PM

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I mean depending on his price

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London and Philly are both good potential places depending on who they bring in.

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Old problem would be RHJ + Alarm would clash.

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Though support is the most fluent of the grouping

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 4:34 PM

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the issue is that I don't see a lot of need for flex support

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there's much more desire around the league for main support

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Yeah at this point you're slotting backups.

queen drift Oct 7, 2019, 4:35 PM

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who is left on florida

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Saya and who

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 4:35 PM

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📎 unknown.png

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Actually.

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You know where he'd fit in well?

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HZ.

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 4:36 PM

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interesting

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yeah that's an interesting idea

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 4:37 PM

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bebe is good, but I think RHJ is on par if not slightly ahead.

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 4:37 PM

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!!owl2020

young fractalBOT Oct 7, 2019, 4:37 PM

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2020 Season Schedule: https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_entry_media/sj/SJ76PUAZCKL71566272656822.pdf
Homecoming: What's New In 2020: https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/23059433
2020 Roster Construction Rules: https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/23051827
2020 Team Needs and Player Contract Status: https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/23178914
r/Overwatch Rosterpocalypse Megathread: https://redd.it/ddap1g

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Revenge is under team option, but not impressive.

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So you let Revenge go, you bring in RHJ. Get yourself an older presence for a new team.

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GZC could be the same too. Shu and Rise are both team optioned atm.

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 4:42 PM

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I always forget HZ and GZ exist

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in terms of roster

naive garden Oct 7, 2019, 5:01 PM

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https://twitter.com/gods_live/status/1181251800860626944

GODS (@gods_live)

I'm a free agent LFT OWL for the 2020 season.

although my time on Defiant was short, I will cherish it and the experiences I had with my teammates and the fans I met.

contact me on discord: gods#3086
retweets appreciated

ggs all, see you in 2020

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 5:06 PM

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no clue what Toronto is going to do

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keep Neko and Logix and maybe that's it

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 5:07 PM

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Toronto is cucked since gods is gone

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That means sharyk is probably gone ro

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To*

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 5:08 PM

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release everybody and pickup Runaway

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where have I seen this before? 🤔

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https://twitter.com/washjustice/status/1181254876019527682

Washington Justice (@washjustice)

We are grateful that our inaugural year roster was filled with ardent, positive players, and thank them for making it a memorable first year.

@OW_Ado, @HyeonuOW, @januspy_, @Sansam_ow, we wish you nothing but success in the next step of your careers!

#JusticeFamily

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 5:09 PM

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^^^

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We knew that was gonna happen

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So washington is probably digging deep into contenders

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 5:12 PM

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corey stratus ellivote and lullsish

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oh and Gido

naive garden Oct 7, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Don't forget Fahzix

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Fah who?

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 5:15 PM

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fahzix has been gone since August

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https://twitter.com/washjustice/status/1160932744530190338

Washington Justice (@washjustice)

Today we say goodbye to @Fahzix.

We thank him for his positive presence, dedication, and hard work, and wish him great success with all his future endeavors.

#JusticeFamForever

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karmic grotto Oct 7, 2019, 5:15 PM

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LMAO

naive garden Oct 7, 2019, 5:15 PM

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LOL

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I honestly forgot

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And his twitter says hes still on the team

worn falcon Oct 7, 2019, 5:17 PM

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Rip Janus and ADO

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 5:17 PM

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I mean Flowervin already said they've had multiple full team offers again lol

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 5:18 PM

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did she say full team offers?

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Yeah.

karmic grotto Oct 7, 2019, 5:18 PM

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RuNaWaY spongebob

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 5:18 PM

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I thought it was just multiple players

karmic grotto Oct 7, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Let's see if their offers will be justified this gauntlet

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it will be but still

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 5:18 PM

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I don't think everyone is 18+, so when I say team offer my guess is for everyone who is eligible.

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I think when you see things like that it tends to always include tanks/supports - those tend to go in pairs for maximized success.

karmic grotto Oct 7, 2019, 5:21 PM

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uhm

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mag not gonna be

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not old enough

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Yaki,Gangnamjin, LeeJaeGon and QoQ

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MAN

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Why hasn't Fusion say anything about Alarm

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 5:25 PM

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maybe they're waiting on league approval

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 5:26 PM

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^ Or post Gauntlet.

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So they don't distract their players.

queen drift Oct 7, 2019, 5:26 PM

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dafuq why release ado

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 5:26 PM

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cuz stratus

queen drift Oct 7, 2019, 5:26 PM

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i know they dont really need him but damn, he might be one of the best substitutes should something every go wrong with stratus

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 5:27 PM

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Didn't fit in, didn't see play time, more conversions to a western team where he'd have language issues beyond that.

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Their tank line is full western now, so unless his english increases exponentially in the year (which I doubt since they had a Korean tank line)

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 5:27 PM

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wash should buy boombox and sign neptuno

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 5:28 PM

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Smarter to keep Sleepy over Boombox imo.

karmic grotto Oct 7, 2019, 5:29 PM

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Many people speculate about Sp9rk1e, but they know his birthdate is May 31, 2002 (age 17)

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 5:29 PM

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what the cut off date

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 5:29 PM

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The Cut Off Date is nearly october iirc.

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 5:29 PM

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!!owl2020

young fractalBOT Oct 7, 2019, 5:29 PM

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2020 Season Schedule: https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_entry_media/sj/SJ76PUAZCKL71566272656822.pdf
Homecoming: What's New In 2020: https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/23059433
2020 Roster Construction Rules: https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/23051827
2020 Team Needs and Player Contract Status: https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/23178914
r/Overwatch Rosterpocalypse Megathread: https://redd.it/ddap1g

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Players who were born on or before June 15, 2002, are eligible to sign Overwatch League contracts for the 2020 season.

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 5:30 PM

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June 15th

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Curious as to how washington will rebuild

karmic grotto Oct 7, 2019, 5:31 PM

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It's true, but that means he will only play in the 4th period

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 5:34 PM

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More towards half, actually.

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Games go until August 8th.

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Start Feb 8th.

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So they'll miss him for 4 months, have him for 3.

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 5:36 PM

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Day 2 week 17

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 5:36 PM

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https://twitter.com/SF_Shockwaves/status/1181261076689637376?s=20

SFShockwaves (@SF_Shockwaves)

The boy Tizi was just out here trying to warn us 😳

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 5:36 PM

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Depending on the team theres bye weeks etc too now.

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 5:36 PM

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true

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lul tizi

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 5:37 PM

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So for instance if you're HZ.

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You play two whole games the entirety of February.

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Yeah. HZ for instance would play 15 games without Sparkle, 12 games with.

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That's not horrible.

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And I think anyone geographical near Korea has a much better shot of landing these contenders players.

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I.E. a flight from Hangzhou to Seoul is 2 hours.

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Shanghai is close as well

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Chengdu is more near the mountains i believe

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 6:50 PM

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People need to stop crying over the OWWC just because [country that never had a chance anyway] isn't going.

hidden vault Oct 7, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Is Endoken's country going?

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Yes, but right now the current whine is over fucking Bulgaria. Who hasn't qualified any year.

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 6:53 PM

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https://twitter.com/gatamchun/status/1181272466230071296?s=20

Ana’s Tal Mask (@gatamchun)

Jehong on stream
“Honestly the team I want to join is Lunatic[-Hai], I want to give it another go with [those former teammates from LH], but that’s not gonna happen now...” https://t.co/P0wY5k9AaV

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WidowLUL

hidden vault Oct 7, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Anyways I don't think I can see Jehong Tobi and Zunba go anywhere other than Seoul

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Zunba has fallen off compared to michelle tho

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 6:53 PM

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I could see Jehong, like I said with Sprite earlier, taking a big brother mentor role on either HZ or GZ.

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Oldest korean at 29 i believe

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In the leauge as a player

hidden vault Oct 7, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Yeah I read

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Probably means jehong Tobi and Zunba are gonna split

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And people won't like that

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Jehong not in a seoul jersey gone cause a riot

hidden vault Oct 7, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Would HZ or GZ pick jehong?🤔

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I think that's an interesting idea tho

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Both of theyre flex supports arent like all star either so

hidden vault Oct 7, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Sorry?

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Shu and bebe

hidden vault Oct 7, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Yeah but they are decent enough I think

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Yea but not all star

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Not saying jehong is a all star cause hes long past his prime

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But theyre not no Jjonak

hidden vault Oct 7, 2019, 6:58 PM

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I think Jjonak past he's prime too:p

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Its a inbetween

hidden vault Oct 7, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Unless he would peak again

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Jjonak has brilliance but he is showing ware

hidden vault Oct 7, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Showing ware?

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Anyways I'm kinda getting the feeling that the western team would covert more for the old lunatic hai than HZ or GZ

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Just a thought

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HZ and GZ seem like the type that would go for new blood

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Plus they have their own pool of academy team to choose from

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Jehong on another team

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I guess that would take awhile of getting used too

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 7:13 PM

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Jonak just isn't as good on other off-supports as Zen

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it's just noticable

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Bebe and RHJ are pretty even in terms of overall skill imo. Be an interesting option, and gives a huge veteran presence.

balmy wolf Oct 7, 2019, 7:18 PM

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I mean at his other off healers yea they’re not as good as his zen play but I would argue that his off support is still better than I would say most of the league.

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 7:20 PM

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my comment was only directed toward him "showing ware"

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I don't think he's "showing wear", his carry potential on Zen is just eons better than Moira/Ana

pearl stratus Oct 7, 2019, 7:29 PM

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In fairness Moira shows little to no carry potential, just raw HPS.

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There's not enough utility in the kit to be a force.

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That's more Ana/Zen/Lucios domain.

tropic herald Oct 7, 2019, 7:42 PM

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Man that’s a lot of player releases

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 7:45 PM

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limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 8:05 PM

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https://twitter.com/kyky/status/1181295379523915776

Kyle Souder (@KyKy)

Hey guys, I am currently a free agent. I have experience in all kinds of coaching, and management as well. Please reach out if interested and want to hear my vision. Thanks!

balmy wolf Oct 7, 2019, 8:16 PM

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jjonak is one of the top 3 supports in the league ez

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his stats have always been high

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even off zen as far as i know

karmic grotto Oct 7, 2019, 8:18 PM

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Any reason why teams should sign LFT players from OWL?

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Especially when it was clear that their performance nor attitude was on par with others?

balmy wolf Oct 7, 2019, 8:25 PM

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With a couple exceptions, I'd assume it's because most OWL players are probably better than most contender's players

limber pine Oct 7, 2019, 8:26 PM

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https://twitter.com/real_tim1/status/1181303713316687872

Tim (@real_tim1)

I am no longer under contract with the Gladiators.

I can only hope that I've positively impacted this team during my time here.

As of now I am unsure if I will continue coaching, however I plan to re-enter esports in some way in the future.

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is it just me, or is LAG gonna look completely different next year

trim shadow Oct 7, 2019, 8:44 PM

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What in the fook are gladiators planning

tropic herald Oct 7, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Gladiators are overhauling their roster I guess lol

karmic grotto Oct 7, 2019, 9:44 PM

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They're preparing to sign new players

sullen berry Oct 8, 2019, 12:06 AM

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@limber pine thanks for the pin 📍

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 12:21 AM

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https://twitter.com/BadPachimari/status/1181345257461571584?s=20

Bad Pachimari (@BadPachimari)

someone gathered the reddit 'rumors' and put them into one post on discord.

idk if these'll actually happen at all.

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Believable rumors and Outrageous claims

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Like gangjamin to the shock

raw ermine Oct 8, 2019, 12:52 AM

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Lol pine becoming a support?

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That can't be right

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no clue who half these ppl are tho

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 12:54 AM

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believe or not pine has played Main support in the past in his apex days or around that time

raw ermine Oct 8, 2019, 12:54 AM

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whats wrong w/ anamo tho?

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is he being traded then

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 12:55 AM

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no hes under contract i believe

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or at least a team option

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the only FA out of new york is meko

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 2:08 AM

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A team would be well worth having some hydration players with all the travel.

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Someone you can sub in at multiple roles.

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So they may have pine as a DPS / Back up Support focus.

tropic herald Oct 8, 2019, 2:15 AM

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Wow fuel getting som good dps

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Also Swimmer getting moved to Boston seems good

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Don’t see water anywhere though

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 2:30 AM

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the rumor is fuel is chasing some pretty elite dps in contenders

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but the catch is most of dallas is on a 2+1

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2 years guranteed 1 option year

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that means zach and taimou are still there

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but dallas could be filling the roster uk

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13 players 13 salaries

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they could be trying a san fransicso shock where they just fill out the dps core and stack it as high as they can

tropic herald Oct 8, 2019, 2:32 AM

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But it’s Dallas so... no?

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 2:34 AM

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Yea no Especially since theyve made no coaching moves

upper niche Oct 8, 2019, 4:16 AM

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That list is a bit outdated - didn't Carpe get confirmed to Boston?

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Dallas has a heap of players on 2-year contracts. They're in a mess of a situation for 2020.

gaunt acorn Oct 8, 2019, 4:22 AM

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didn't Carpe get confirmed to Boston?
no

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 5:01 AM

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the rumor was always london or new york

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and bird not being there is holding weight to the carpe to london

hidden vault Oct 8, 2019, 5:02 AM

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Didn't fanatic "leaked" aimgod to Hangzhou sparks?

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And why would kaiser go mayhem? They already had 2 main tanks

sullen berry Oct 8, 2019, 5:09 AM

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Chinese teams bar Shanghai have the least amount of roster changes to make

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JMac + Mando I can see happening

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Chengdu nobody has a tail on them unless you hit up the Weibo

supple prism Oct 8, 2019, 5:11 AM

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poor Ado

sullen berry Oct 8, 2019, 5:11 AM

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They just want to get the MY gang back together, as prophecy foretold going more recently to Stage 4

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Ado going down to contenders at this rate

supple prism Oct 8, 2019, 5:12 AM

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if even?

sullen berry Oct 8, 2019, 5:12 AM

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:(

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Whatever team can leverage him will be the day that he transcends OW meta and team composition

supple prism Oct 8, 2019, 5:14 AM

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So how good are Justices new-ish tanks

sullen berry Oct 8, 2019, 5:14 AM

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Lullish and Ello some..

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!teams justice

somber yewBOT Oct 8, 2019, 5:15 AM

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Overwatch League Team Names

sullen berry Oct 8, 2019, 5:15 AM

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Literally blank for off-season eh

supple prism Oct 8, 2019, 5:15 AM

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i dont think they have maintained it for half the season

sullen berry Oct 8, 2019, 5:15 AM

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I haven't watched them. I hear they are coachable

supple prism Oct 8, 2019, 5:16 AM

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and Mayhem just dropped half their roster

sullen berry Oct 8, 2019, 5:16 AM

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When they played during the Melbourne Esports Open, it's very hard to gauge how well they play

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What's left of the coaching staff agree that Fate will lead the 2020 roster into play-in potential

gaunt acorn Oct 8, 2019, 5:17 AM

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@hidden vault that was fake

sullen berry Oct 8, 2019, 5:18 AM

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Never thought anyone would think fanatics would leak a shirt

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When you can custom name literally anyone into another team

upper niche Oct 8, 2019, 5:20 AM

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JJonak Mayhem jersey

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Sinatraa Hunters jersey

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Surefour Spitfire jersey.

Oh this is gonna be good.

sullen berry Oct 8, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Note Gladiators Jersey

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Alarm Spark Jersey, repeat

supple prism Oct 8, 2019, 5:28 AM

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oh shit Super and Sinatraa was on Fallon

sullen berry Oct 8, 2019, 5:41 AM

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i thought that was a joke when it was first posted on twitter

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fFokNOn0Zc

YouTube

Wizard Hyeong

Wizard University - Lecture 1 : What is Overwatch?

Wizard University - Lecture 1 : What is Overwatch? - Understanding vision in Overwatch Twitch - https://www.twitch.tv/wizardhyeong Twitter - https://twitter....

▶ Play video

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1 year later, WH working on his production before gets signed to coach another OWL team

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XaciU_-vLo&t=121s

YouTube

Wizard Hyeong

Why we can't kill Doomfist

▶ Play video

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 5:47 AM

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wait he has a youtube?

sullen berry Oct 8, 2019, 5:48 AM

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smh

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should have known this about a year ago
only recently came back to his channel and doing full english/KR subtitles on his videos

calm holly Oct 8, 2019, 6:12 AM

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Jimmy Fallon? @supple prism

forest raven Oct 8, 2019, 6:14 AM

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Ye

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https://twitter.com/SFShock/status/1181430282227814400 @calm holly

San Francisco Shock⚡ (@SFShock)

Watching these guys on @FallonTonight was HUGE moment for the SF Shock and a BIG win for the @OverwatchLeague community overall...

We couldn't be more proud of @Sinatraa and @Super_OW #ShockTheWorld https://t.co/aR6oxrWgrR

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calm holly Oct 8, 2019, 6:15 AM

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That's actually pretty cool

sullen berry Oct 8, 2019, 6:29 AM

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@forest raven yeee

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I still can't scratch the feeling that Super's family said these words

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"Oh by the way you should see your cousin Matt, he's in town this weekend for the Overwatch League!"

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in the first minute: Sinatraa's eternal voice crack (to be fair, I'd be a nervous wreck)

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 7:00 AM

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So we can pretty much write off Dallas doing good next season?

sullen berry Oct 8, 2019, 7:05 AM

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why might that be

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 7:11 AM

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Adding top tier dps won't change how they coach their players. Track record proves it.

sullen berry Oct 8, 2019, 7:13 AM

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Fuel's peaked this season purely on W-L was after they defeated Dynasty after a whole season choking at the seams

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their wins during the homestand was their baseline

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and could have absolutely gone they way of a play-in run

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 7:42 AM

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Welp we just have to wait then and see.

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Wonder where Sparkle is gonna go, he's prob one the biggest players OWL teams are looking at.

hidden vault Oct 8, 2019, 7:46 AM

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If xzi went seoul sparkle might follow

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That also means bye bye fleta

karmic grotto Oct 8, 2019, 7:53 AM

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My boi Alarm :/

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Philly monies, ez

echo quest Oct 8, 2019, 10:51 AM

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Wonder where Jehong will go

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Also probs to Fallon

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Thank god they didnt go to Kimmel

upper niche Oct 8, 2019, 11:00 AM

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so long as it's not conan. I dont mind kimmel or fallon, but conan is just holyshitnotfunny.

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He's like Ace-Ventura era Jim Carrey: "Oh oh, noone's laughing, quick, do something ridiculous and 'zany'". No dude, the joke failed. Just fucking move on.

tropic herald Oct 8, 2019, 11:11 AM

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I wonder if Spectr9l/Onigod will get picked up

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 11:14 AM

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Probs not. Most teams are looking at the players in the gauntlet.

tropic herald Oct 8, 2019, 11:15 AM

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That sucks I remember he was looking pretty good a little bit a go

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 11:16 AM

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He was pretty close to getting into the gauntlet. But loss to gla.

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The only team I can him being picked up is Paris eternal.

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Since for now Paris has only signed EU players.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 1:00 PM

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@sullen berry dallas has retained most of there last years roster meaning they probably put them on a 2+1

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2 years guranteed

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1 year option

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the only FA is note

hidden vault Oct 8, 2019, 1:03 PM

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I have no idea what is dallas gonna do with their team

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So much dead weight

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 1:04 PM

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@pearl stratus https://twitter.com/Birdring/status/1181473106919149568

BIRDRING (@Birdring)

I'm FA LFT OWL /Thanks to spitfire #AcesHigh

Read: https://t.co/VdxDpdAeMZ

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karmic grotto Oct 8, 2019, 1:09 PM

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WinstonHmm

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 1:10 PM

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no retirement for ya boi

hidden vault Oct 8, 2019, 1:20 PM

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Hmm thanks to spiltfire seems like blaming the team lol

twilit ridge Oct 8, 2019, 1:21 PM

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Who do you think will win the next season?

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 1:22 PM

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whoever manages travel the best

twilit ridge Oct 8, 2019, 1:23 PM

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McCreeHowdy

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Fair enough

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 1:24 PM

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The Atlantic North is gonna do a ton of traveling

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cuz London and Paris

drowsy fulcrum Oct 8, 2019, 1:24 PM

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the current Blizzard... issue with Blitzchung makes me very worried about the future of Overwatch, not going to lie

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 1:24 PM

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why

drowsy fulcrum Oct 8, 2019, 1:24 PM

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Overwatch is much larger and more opinionated than Hearthstone

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and unlike Hearthstone there are alternatives

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if a player speaks out of line they can move to other games

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taking a stand may pay dividends for them in the long run

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 1:25 PM

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I think you're worrying about nothing

drowsy fulcrum Oct 8, 2019, 1:25 PM

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and it's not like it'd be a hard switch

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it looks like TF2 is actually getting support from Valve in a big way and Paladins is picking back up with the new PPL

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the moment a large amount of players move to one of these in protest, the money will probably be pretty similar (as teams could move with them/are already set up), they already have a fanbase and they're less likely to get blacklisted

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 1:27 PM

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you assume a large amount of players care

drowsy fulcrum Oct 8, 2019, 1:27 PM

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I personally do

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a lot of the pros are old TF2 players

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 1:27 PM

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Never said you didn't

drowsy fulcrum Oct 8, 2019, 1:27 PM

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and old TF2 players were very outspoken

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as in, I do assume a large amount of players care

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I'm talking about top level play

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 1:28 PM

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top level players are in a franchised league, getting paid by their teams and getting benefits from the league.

drowsy fulcrum Oct 8, 2019, 1:28 PM

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as was Blitzchung, but look where he is now

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 1:29 PM

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It's not like they're individuals like in the HS circuits.

drowsy fulcrum Oct 8, 2019, 1:29 PM

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the thing is the pretty large "free agent" drop coincides heavily with Valve doing a lot of stuff with TF2

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 1:29 PM

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blitzchung is not affiliated with any team and HS is not part of a franchised league

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literally not the same thing

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wait what

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you're saying the large amounts of free agents is directly related to increasing in Valve's dedication to TF2?

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certainly it doesn't have anything to do with the fact that most of the free agents are coming from Season 1 where they were under two year contracts.

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and their contracts are expiring

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 1:45 PM

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@limber pine I still don't see any team with half a brain actually picking him up based on his massive decline, obvious visual stress and issues, then asking him to travel around the world.

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So it might be retirement not by choice.

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Especially since his letter basically correlates to: "I couldn't learn new heroes quickly and adjust to the meta and it really fucked my team."

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 1:47 PM

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well shit

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bird is gonna be in a florida jersey

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or maybe toronto

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 1:48 PM

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@drowsy fulcrum Blitzchung is banned from Hearthstone for a year and disqualified from the grand finals, so no longer your best example point ;{

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 1:49 PM

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washington is one of those not really travelling out of north america i believe

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no thats atlanta

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most of the south diivision houston atlanta florida washington will be doing alot of USA travelling

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some are going to asia like dallas and both LA teams

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Birdring will most likely have to pull a Logix and drop to Contenders for nearly a year to reprove himself.

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If he's even willing to do that.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 1:54 PM

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bird stocks probably didnt drop that hard tbh

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he definetly wont end up back home with seoul so

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 1:54 PM

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? The fuck games did you watch

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 1:55 PM

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ive watched all of birds game and yes he looked boomed and washed

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and..overall bad

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 1:55 PM

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His ass looked like Yoda for all of season 2 sitting in Profit's backpack being carried around a swamp.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 1:55 PM

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but his stocks are probably better then whatever the fuck stocks dallas had

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theyre litterally all in the shitters

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 1:56 PM

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Logix went to Contenders for 7 months for taking a mental break for a week and being part of Florida.

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Bird threw an entire season.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 1:58 PM

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i think bird needs a new enviroment

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as u said he was pretty much never there

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out of sync with the team feeding and shit like that

karmic grotto Oct 8, 2019, 2:05 PM

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today update

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?

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 2:10 PM

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I'm interested to see if Shanghai lets Gamsu go, if not it'd be his third team in three years which is sad.

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I could see him (if he leaves) finding a home in GZ, Seoul, and quite a few other places; including potentially Philly.

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 2:18 PM

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shanghai would be fools not to try and re-sign him

twilit ridge Oct 8, 2019, 2:19 PM

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ye

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 2:20 PM

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Gamsu is probably the top Free Agent main tank

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 2:22 PM

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Oh without a doubt, he's an anchor for every team he's been on. But he also has the option of a better offer if a team can afford it.

red anvil Oct 8, 2019, 2:32 PM

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naw he's not

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if so it's only because of the shortage of MTs

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 2:33 PM

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well, that too

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Fragi, Sado, and Janus are the only other true Free Agents

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I'd easily put Gamsu at the top of that list

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 2:36 PM

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He's also more versatile than many teams current main tanks.

karmic grotto Oct 8, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Sado?

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eh

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 2:37 PM

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No Gamsu.

karmic grotto Oct 8, 2019, 2:37 PM

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pikaUnsure

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Sado has never been worth anything on anything but Winston.

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He's so inflexible it hurts.

karmic grotto Oct 8, 2019, 2:37 PM

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No wonder why Fusion wasn't great

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in goats meta

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 2:37 PM

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I mean that was more than just Sado.

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That was like 70% Carpe being one of the worst Zarya in the league at Goats.

hidden vault Oct 8, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Isn't corey worse?

raw ermine Oct 8, 2019, 2:39 PM

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remember how fusion made the semifinals of stage 1?

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 2:39 PM

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No zach was the worse zarya

raw ermine Oct 8, 2019, 2:39 PM

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what happened there?

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Wait thats brig fuck

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Corey would be worse, which would be using the term 'One of'

hidden vault Oct 8, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Rights

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Both Corey and Carpe were pretty bad

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Season 2 did what I expected it to. It showed a lot of players vulnerability at being unflexible and unable to adapt.

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 2:39 PM

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definitively bottom tier Zarya's

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 2:40 PM

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If you look at Carpe the same way you did in 2018 right now, I'd feel bad.

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Not that he's magically this dumpster tier player.

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But I'd say his overall value declined, whereas I'd move EQO's up.

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 2:40 PM

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speaking of players their former team would be foolish to re-sign

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err *not to re-sign

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 2:41 PM

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I'm interested to see what LAG is going to do.

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I don't think they can afford both Hydration and Decay.

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And, I'd bet, Hydration has one of the largest salary increases going into S3.

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 2:42 PM

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My bold prediction: https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/dde0nm/now_that_weve_seen_the_2020_contract_status_of/f2g40hh/?context=3

Now that we’ve seen the 2020 contract status of OWL players, wha...

I’ll start with a few: * Kellex will sign with the Washington Justice to pair with their new EU tank line. * At least 4 of the current...

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LAG will lose at least 4 of their current 9 players

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Because he's showing cross-role versatility, which I think is going to be a big thing for sub players

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We've now seen, in OWL, hydration play all three roles multiple times.

raw ermine Oct 8, 2019, 2:44 PM

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LAG are good, why get rid of all those good players?

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 2:45 PM

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too expensive/new management

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I agree with Endo; they'll certainly be unable to afford both Surefour and Hydration

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I could see Void and Ripa leaving

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Panker is as good as gone already

raw ermine Oct 8, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Do you guys think Toronto will sign a currently OWL player or a contenders player for an off tank?

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 2:47 PM

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depends if they want to go korean or not

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Flex tank is actually fairly saturated in Free Agency

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Hotba/Bischu/Zunba/Meko/Note/Void/Nevix/Samsan

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and that's just the true Free Agents

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many more are under team options

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 2:50 PM

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And more upcomers too.

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The "barest" of the positions right now are your Main Tank and Main Support.

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The two major towers of the team.

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One thing to watch out for is if a team drops both - because many teams over the last two years have success picking up these roles in pairs.

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Because tank synergy is huge, so pre-existing dynamics influence value.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 3:00 PM

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I do believe gladiators will lose 5 of there players

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Theyll only@keep shaz and goose

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S4 might want out completely void has a decent stock togo anywhere even if he doesnt pass the eye test decay might want out as well since there are dps spots open like london philly etc

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Roar is just not that good so it might just be released

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And hydration’s stock is probably higher then s4 cause of his flexibility

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 3:02 PM

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I can see them keeping Roar, but they need another option at main tank

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Gladiators should just go ahead and stop rotting panker

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Let him loose

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 3:03 PM

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panker couldn't even play on Legion this contenders season

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I don't think he's the answer

echo quest Oct 8, 2019, 3:06 PM

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Also Blizzard hyprocrites in the world

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https://kotaku.com/blizzard-suspends-hearthstone-player-for-hong-kong-supp-1838864961/amp

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Guess money trumps all

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 3:07 PM

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yes we know

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you're like 10 hours late

echo quest Oct 8, 2019, 3:07 PM

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They fired both casters too

karmic grotto Oct 8, 2019, 3:09 PM

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The problem isn't Blizzard

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Problem are the people on top

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Principal staff

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:11 PM

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Welcome to every company.

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Here's a list of other companies that have also done dumb shit because of money from China:

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Every company.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 3:11 PM

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welcome to woke culture @echo quest

echo quest Oct 8, 2019, 3:12 PM

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China too stronk

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Here's new fun facts: If you have Amazon Prime you're pro-employee suicide.

echo quest Oct 8, 2019, 3:12 PM

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First the NBA then Blizzard

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:12 PM

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If you've ever used Amazon you're pro employee suicide.

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And Apple. And entire countries.

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People are crazy ignorant, its so annoying.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 3:13 PM

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i have a subscription but honestly ive never used it

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unless its some shit i cant get at the mall

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or at a store somewhere

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:13 PM

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Amazon literally has hundreds of calls to emergency services for threatened/attempted employee suicide in their warehouses.

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But OH NO VIDEO GAME CASTERS.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 3:13 PM

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actually i have a subscription to watch Amazon movies WidowLUL

echo quest Oct 8, 2019, 3:14 PM

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It’s crazy the nba commissioner said NBA players can express their political views and threw the Rockets Gm under the bus

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Then*

karmic grotto Oct 8, 2019, 3:14 PM

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Why do they even care so much for China?

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:14 PM

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Money.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 3:14 PM

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^

echo quest Oct 8, 2019, 3:14 PM

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Makes them a shit ton of money

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:14 PM

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Like every other company/government in the world.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 3:14 PM

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theres 4 owl teams based in china to

karmic grotto Oct 8, 2019, 3:14 PM

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China produces many people > those people will like something > invest money = profit

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:14 PM

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It's like people getting mad at human issues, but they have an iPhone.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 3:14 PM

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so blizzard has there feet deep in the water

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:15 PM

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It's an easy complaint, but not easy to fix.

echo quest Oct 8, 2019, 3:15 PM

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You isolate China then the global economy collapses

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Every company does, Apple just changed their emojis because China asked them too.

echo quest Oct 8, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Don’t they have human camps for the Ulighur people?

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:15 PM

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They literally removed the Hong Kong flag emoji in that region.

karmic grotto Oct 8, 2019, 3:15 PM

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spongeHmm

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 3:15 PM

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the damn shame is Some blizz employee will bitch aand scream that the world is ending cause the earth heated up 5 degrees and americans are toxic but china you cant see the bloody sky

karmic grotto Oct 8, 2019, 3:16 PM

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I wonder if other e-sports will be affected by this

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:16 PM

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They won't.

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No one will care.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 3:16 PM

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thats honestly why im concerned for the 4 chineese teams

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:16 PM

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I give this story about.. 30 hours?

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max.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 3:16 PM

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even tho only one of them is native chineese

echo quest Oct 8, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Companies like Riot wouldn’t even let this story get out

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:16 PM

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If anything this is better from an investment point of view.

dry oriole Oct 8, 2019, 3:17 PM

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How is this better lol

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Because they chose money first. Which makes them a sound investment.

dry oriole Oct 8, 2019, 3:17 PM

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what a shitty outcome

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Welcome to Earth.

dry oriole Oct 8, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Money > human rights i guess

echo quest Oct 8, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Unfortunately most wealthy people don’t give a fuck

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Its everywhere, people just like looking outward.

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Ask people in Flint about their water for the last decade.

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And they'll have already known this, and wondered why you just care now.

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Ask all the immigrant kids sitting in pens in a desert.

echo quest Oct 8, 2019, 3:18 PM

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Muslim nations be talking about Kashmir but can’t even stand up for the Ulighur muslims in China

dry oriole Oct 8, 2019, 3:19 PM

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True

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 3:19 PM

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wealthy people read from a script most of the time or keep there tv's tuned into to cnn

dry oriole Oct 8, 2019, 3:19 PM

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All these problems get thrown up and in a few days get thrown away

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 3:19 PM

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theyre almost always out of touch with everyday life

dry oriole Oct 8, 2019, 3:19 PM

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Just like this one will be

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:19 PM

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Poor people are too.

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Blaming just the wealthy doesn't actually do anything but let people be more ignorant in that they have a source of blame so its okay when they do nothing.

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It's why the story will die in a day.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 3:20 PM

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the difference is wealthy people have the power they just dont use and poor people suck up to the power and dont move away from it

echo quest Oct 8, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Did you know the racist owner of the nba benefited for being forced to sell the team?

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Mans got 2b

dry oriole Oct 8, 2019, 3:20 PM

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True

karmic grotto Oct 8, 2019, 3:20 PM

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stonks

dry oriole Oct 8, 2019, 3:20 PM

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The majority of hstone players don’t use reddit or whatever and will continue playing

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:20 PM

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It doesn't impact them.

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There's no need for them to give a shit about the Grand Finals.

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And also its a single incident whined about by a bunch of people who won't do anything real anyway.

dry oriole Oct 8, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Its a real topic tho, and millions are affected by it

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Cool, you going to Hong Kong to help any time soon?

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Or just gonna make a reddit post?

dry oriole Oct 8, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Lol chill bro

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:22 PM

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I'm just saying, thats what it is now.

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It's like the fucking thoughts and prayers tweets.

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It's selfish self involvement, "LOOK AT ME I CARE. Don't forget about me today, look what I'm doing."

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Which is really just.. nothing.

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We have activists who don't actually do activities.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 3:23 PM

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activist tweeting from there bed WidowLUL

karmic grotto Oct 8, 2019, 3:23 PM

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Pepega

hidden vault Oct 8, 2019, 3:25 PM

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Wait if panker didn't play on legion

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xQc did?!?!?

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 3:26 PM

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oh shit gauntlet is today

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 3:27 PM

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afaik panker never played for legion at any point

hidden vault Oct 8, 2019, 3:27 PM

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So who was the main tank lol

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 3:28 PM

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Stand1

hidden vault Oct 8, 2019, 3:29 PM

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What actually happened to panker?

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And they signed xQc not to play him lol

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 3:30 PM

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xQc wanted a job to stay in the US and LAG obliged

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 3:30 PM

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It was a visa signing.

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Got them publicity, got him a visa.

hidden vault Oct 8, 2019, 3:32 PM

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and technically they don't have to pay him

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what a move

karmic grotto Oct 8, 2019, 3:39 PM

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Exactly how is gauntlet today?

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It starts Wednesday

upper hawk Oct 8, 2019, 4:09 PM

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bruh Surefour, Hydration and Void are gonna be free agents?

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fml

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 4:16 PM

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https://twitter.com/Fl0w3RGOD/status/1181602007817175040

Fl0w3R (@Fl0w3RGOD)

FA / LFT

Discord : flawer#0123
E-mail : plawah.less.514@gmail.com

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Called that one!

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 4:19 PM

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it's shocking how NYXL had so many DPS players and had a problem at the role throughout the end of the season

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 4:21 PM

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One flex.

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Four hitscan.

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Basically.

raw ermine Oct 8, 2019, 4:43 PM

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I wish XQC could return to OWL

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and rip flow3r

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 4:44 PM

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I don't

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He'll be back out of the league in no time

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he's a great tank, but he can't be professional enough to be in the leauge

fiery basalt Oct 8, 2019, 4:45 PM

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There's a reason he's out

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 5:07 PM

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He has said he missed competitive play

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/488221391347253268/631176794111868945/image0.png

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Friendly reminder of new york moves rumor

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2 dps and bianca is a ot i believe

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 5:39 PM

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https://twitter.com/MunchkinOW/status/1181617779780116480

Munchkin (@MunchkinOW)

FA / LFT OWL

DPS

Email : byunsangbeom@naver.com
Discord : Munchkin#9646

karmic grotto Oct 8, 2019, 5:44 PM

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ah shit man

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flower gone

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:(

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But Pine is still there?

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NYXL goes for that fan attraction model

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 5:52 PM

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wait i thought munchkin retired?

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@karmic grotto yes hes under contract

karmic grotto Oct 8, 2019, 5:53 PM

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Then I better hope he gets some play time

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 6:22 PM

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why would nyxl get rid of meko though i thought he performed well throughout the season

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 6:23 PM

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who says they're getting rid of him

supple prism Oct 8, 2019, 6:34 PM

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Contract ran out doesnt mean getting rid of yet

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Mayhem and Justice did however seem to get rid of quite a few people

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 6:43 PM

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but there are rumors that he’s getting swapped out

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 6:43 PM

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There's rumors that the earth is flat and vaccines don't work too.

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 6:43 PM

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ah i see

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Until he's signed somewhere else the rumors are pointless

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 6:44 PM

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my bad for taking it too literally

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Yeah rumors in OWL especially are just rumors until confirmation.

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They have a giant rumor mill

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 6:50 PM

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wait the earth isn't flat

calm holly Oct 8, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Nah it is

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Don't believe every rumor you hear

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Some moves and rumors hold weight like carpe. Wanting togo london or new york And bird and flower both have Announced LFT

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Then theres other rumors that havent shown weight like meko out for bianca when meko hasnt announced LFT

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Then theres dallas going for dps when theyve only hinted at whoru

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 7:07 PM

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you just have to take everything with a grain of salt

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 7:07 PM

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I mean theres no real credible leaker this time so take everything with a grain of salt.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Qoq to shanghai was a big runor all year

worn falcon Oct 8, 2019, 7:07 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441208195814260747/631088213192343564/xsjfnbe1var31.jpg

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Still hasnt come to fruition lately

worn falcon Oct 8, 2019, 7:08 PM

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I dont know how up to date is the list, but eh

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 7:09 PM

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Well a rumor is just a rumor and we have no leakers this time.

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 7:09 PM

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pretty sure Bulgaria said they weren't going

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i think

worn falcon Oct 8, 2019, 7:10 PM

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Preliminaries are 30 right?

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 7:10 PM

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Ah shit hotba is free agent to huh

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And aimgod

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 7:14 PM

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Hotba flex god

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 7:20 PM

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@limber pine If you ever want a good laugh about flat earth stuff watch the netflix documentary. They paid for the guy to talk about his beliefs, etc, then gave him the money to do the test to prove it

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And in the end he just scientifically proves himself wrong. And his whole existence gets shattered in documentary.

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 7:22 PM

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nice

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Please no uber

📎 unknown.png

upper niche Oct 8, 2019, 7:35 PM

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Nah, I fully expected him to be vocal on this.

karmic grotto Oct 8, 2019, 7:35 PM

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SurprisedPikachu

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 7:41 PM

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There's also time and place.

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Most people aren't taking the time and place into account for what happened and the response.

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Tweeting something is very different than using a podium stand as a platform.

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Also less likely to receive specific backlash from it.

upper niche Oct 8, 2019, 7:41 PM

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Dude, they fired the casters as well, who had no involvement in it other than being there at the time, and had no knowledge it was going to be said prior.

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 7:42 PM

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Actually it was reported the casters knew he was going to say it

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 7:42 PM

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I read that they egged him on

upper niche Oct 8, 2019, 7:42 PM

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"it was reported?" Yeah, and it was also reported that they had no knowledge of it.

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 7:42 PM

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So you want to get sassy for doing the same thing we just did?

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And blindly believing one source?

upper niche Oct 8, 2019, 7:43 PM

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Either way - so fucking what. The actions from Blizzard go beyond what's acceptable in a professional industry.

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 7:43 PM

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Except they don't, in a naive society.

upper niche Oct 8, 2019, 7:43 PM

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Confiscating prizemoney? That's wage theft.

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And in most sane countries, it'd be illegal.

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 7:44 PM

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Only if the contract says that elimination from the tournament for a rules violation makes the money non-exempt.

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And you know the contract isn't that stupid.

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People need to not head in ass this argument.

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It's not right, which is a perfectly fine standpoint.

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But right and legal are RARELY the same thing.

upper niche Oct 8, 2019, 7:45 PM

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Pft, American contract law is ridiculous. Like I said - most sane countries have laws that prevent you just putting all kinds of unfair shit in 'contracts'.

supple prism Oct 8, 2019, 7:45 PM

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You can still try to fight things in contracts in court

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 7:45 PM

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Most sane countries would do the same thing.

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It's money and sponsorship or one kids outburst.

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I appreciate your first semester in college opened your eyes to the world, but most everyone in the world is pretty strongly kowtowed to China regardless of country or context.

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I mean fuck they're not even allowed to have the Taiwanese flag as an emote, Apple yanked that shit right out when China asked.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 7:47 PM

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https://twitter.com/DotEsports/status/1181651537979944962?s=19

Dot Esports (@DotEsports)

.@washjustice has picked up @JohnGaltOW as the team's new head coach 👇
https://t.co/A05qWpYiYU

karmic grotto Oct 8, 2019, 7:47 PM

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??

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And who is that?

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Assistant Coach for LAG formerly.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Immediate downgrade from wizard since hes unknown to me

upper niche Oct 8, 2019, 7:47 PM

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If you think trying to talk down to peoples age or education gives you some kind of moral or life experience mate, you need to pull your head out - you seem to have no argument other than having to resort to that.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Oh hes a former LAG that makes sense

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 7:49 PM

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It's the same argument you just made with the sane country route, when there's no countries of note that wouldn't concede to an economic force. People seem to think rainbows and unicorns and bright ideals influence things, and they oh so rarely do.

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You can condemn them for making a shitty human rights decision, that's more than fair.

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I'm just saying I can't think of anyone of successful note that wouldn't have done something similar if told.

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Especially as China's current action trend is "Do it or we pull everything you own from our country" as seen in the NBA.

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I mean I wish Blizzard had Silvers balls, but they're not known for having nor exercising them - especially with China being a huge economic profit for them.

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 8:04 PM

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it's weird that neither john or washington have posted it yet.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Leakers working hard WidowLUL

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 8:33 PM

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I'd hardly call dotaesports a leaker, they likely just posted it early

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err dotesports

upper niche Oct 8, 2019, 9:11 PM

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Unless there's some kind of marketing advantage to doing to, there's no need for teams and players to need to get this stuff out there asap. There's no benefit to them, and it just gets buried under all the other announcements.

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 9:18 PM

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We need a gauntlet pinger

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Oh wait its 1 in the morning

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Right its in korea

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6:20 right now so 2:00 am for them?

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Pm

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https://twitter.com/TorontoDefiant/status/1181674946013138944?s=20

Toronto Defiant (@TorontoDefiant)

We want to thank @sharykOW for your quiet strength, determination and positivity in your time with Rebellion and Defiant. Thank you for stepping up for us during the Season and we wish you nothing but the best.

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https://twitter.com/TorontoDefiant/status/1181679017172389888?s=20

Toronto Defiant (@TorontoDefiant)

From the whole Defiant family, staff and fans, we want to say how much @Aid_OW meant to us through our inaugural season. From when he stepped up and filled in for Neko during Stage 1 till he stepped onto the court to learn tennis at Tennis Canada. Thank you for everything.

raw ermine Oct 8, 2019, 9:30 PM

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omg defiant are going nuts

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exciting tho

upper hawk Oct 8, 2019, 9:35 PM

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how badly is this blizzard controversy going to affect OWL and the game?

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ppl are reaaaally on about boycotting. i get usually it doesnt end up doing much

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but this was kinda huge

raw ermine Oct 8, 2019, 9:36 PM

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As soon as I saw the news about the suspension, I knew nothing good would come of it

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 9:38 PM

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https://twitter.com/washjustice/status/1181683718689366018

Washington Justice (@washjustice)

Overwatch League Playoff Experience ✅
Overwatch Contenders Experience ✅
Overwatch World Cup Experience ✅

We're coming home to DC with our eyes set on the Championship and @JohnGaltOW is the Coach to lead us there!

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I wonder if they’ll try to sign LAG players

trim shadow Oct 8, 2019, 9:41 PM

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Oh hes kr

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But they have western players?

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 9:59 PM

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He speaks English

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Think WJ bawlynn is going after other glads people

loud yoke Oct 8, 2019, 10:49 PM

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I hope esports players who play blizzard games go on strike

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 10:51 PM

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thats a good way to have your career ended

loud yoke Oct 8, 2019, 10:53 PM

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It’s better than not having freedom to say that suppression of rights is wrong

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 10:54 PM

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There are ways to support HK without risking their jobs

loud yoke Oct 8, 2019, 11:08 PM

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This is more about getting blizzard to life the punishments they placed on the casters and the player

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And I’m not saying they have to

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Big picture they can't afford to. It's shitty, but its true. The NBA had one tweet. One. They defended it.

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So far China has cancelled: All preseason games viewing in China, all events for teams in China (including an event for this afternoon), revoked and suspended millions of dollars in endorsements, may potentially be removing a $1.5 Billion dollar streaming deal, etc.

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All Rockets gear in China has basically disappeared over night, and no Houston Rockets stuff may be streamed etc.

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Shits crazy, but thats what companies are up against. A crazy mofo.

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The company that is boycotting the NBA with the 1.5 Billion dollar streaming deal also owns 5% of Activision, if memory serves.

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Blizzard is facing against a country who doesn't like when you go against the line of what they allow. Blizz ain't gonna do shit against them.

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Blizz needs profit and china is a big nest of profit.

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 11:33 PM

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The best analogy I can think of is that China is kind of like an asshole kid who has a bigger stack in poker, and he goes all in every hand.

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You need to be willing to risk going all in against them, every time.

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Because thats how they'll play every hand.

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Except they also own the dealer.

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It's not a bad thing to do, but you need to be a company willing to risk doing that. And that's rare.

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 11:35 PM

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The only companies I can see doing are companies so rich that don't need to rely on the chinese market.

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 11:35 PM

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Pair in the fact Activision/Blizzard has dropped what.. 35% in stock price since June of 2018? And you've got a company that needs the Chinese market because its becoming their life blood.

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 11:36 PM

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Also OWL has 4 chinese teams, all of which have huge markets for profit as well. Blizz ain't taking chances of china screwing all their games over just because of a player.

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They made hundreds of millions off chinese teams for buying the slot into OWL.

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It's a sad situation to see, but that's how it is.

pearl stratus Oct 8, 2019, 11:40 PM

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People also don't look at the other shitty aspects of it.

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Say Blizzard does the right thing and they say "No, we're not taking his winnings or suspending him" and China goes cold war.

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The business declines rapidly due to the pull out of the chinese market. Suddenly you're looking at potentials for another massive round of lay offs, shutting down of divisions in China/US/Canada, etc.

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Sometimes doing the wrong thing isn't always 100% the wrong thing.

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 11:47 PM

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Also is toronto still gonna keep im37? Seems kind of odd keeping him on the team.

raw ermine Oct 8, 2019, 11:48 PM

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they will prob get rid of like everyone except, maybe logix, neko, and mangachu

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maybe yakpung

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 11:48 PM

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Neko, roky, and Ivy are good.

raw ermine Oct 8, 2019, 11:49 PM

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They haven't played ivy since mangachu and logix become the dps

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idk if he specialises in anything

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 11:49 PM

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He is a projectile dps.

raw ermine Oct 8, 2019, 11:49 PM

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neko definitely, he is the one of the best players on the team IMO

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ik that, I mean over mangachu

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or logix

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Mangachu was playing since he has synergy playing with logix.

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Mangachu isn't the better projectile dps however.

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I only see the defiant keeping mangachu, logix and neko.

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I think theyll cut roky and ivy

raw ermine Oct 8, 2019, 11:57 PM

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thats what I thought

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but ik people love roky so idk

balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 11:58 PM

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roky was the better MS compared to aid

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who only played due to him speaking decent english

limber pine Oct 8, 2019, 11:59 PM

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https://twitter.com/torontodefiant/status/1181718789056057344

Toronto Defiant (@TorontoDefiant)

You did the fastest run into our fan's hearts @im37_ow and we don't think anyone will ever beat your Path to Pro record. Definitely @itsmelimmy will never forget the only player to dominate him in the mic game, because we won't let him. We wish you the best Jinui.

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balmy wolf Oct 8, 2019, 11:59 PM

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oh im37 got released

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lol

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Yeah saw that

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After the defiants massive collapse after stage 1, they definitely need to retool

raw ermine Oct 9, 2019, 12:00 AM

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speak of the devil

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gg

balmy wolf Oct 9, 2019, 12:01 AM

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I saw the im37 release b4 chatting here

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 12:05 AM

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Yeah, Icarus run.

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Got real close to the sun real fast.

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Then fell just as quickly.

trim shadow Oct 9, 2019, 12:21 AM

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GOD DAMMIT TORONTO NOT 37

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Doesnt matter what toronto do theyll probably be bottom 5 all year

limber pine Oct 9, 2019, 12:31 AM

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Not if they pick up most of runaway

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Or not have players “retire” in the middle of the season

balmy wolf Oct 9, 2019, 12:36 AM

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its not like toronto didn't try to pick up after stellar left. They just made some really odd decisions that didnt turn out well in the end

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Wonder if their gonna stay mixed or go full korean again.

limber pine Oct 9, 2019, 12:40 AM

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If they keep roky then they’re full Korean

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Supposedly

trim shadow Oct 9, 2019, 12:41 AM

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Still confused as to how toronto has the most retires

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Make me wonder what kind of person bishop was

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Note personality and coach are different

balmy wolf Oct 9, 2019, 12:41 AM

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Well not retires, but releases of players.

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Stellar was the only player to retired, but he came back.

trim shadow Oct 9, 2019, 12:44 AM

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They signed the most players outside of florida

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So i cant rlly imagine The org will throw that muxh back in for runaway 2.0

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Gladiators also has no players so they could be looking to move a contenders team up

balmy wolf Oct 9, 2019, 12:44 AM

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I mean they have decent players tbf, now they need a decent coaching staff.

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The tank line needs to be better tho.

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Everything else you can keep and be fine with.

trim shadow Oct 9, 2019, 12:47 AM

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Like out of the changes i wouldve made

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The tank line wouldve been gone the moment the season ended

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Yakpung aint it and gods was lowkey feeding

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Even tho i believe hell still end up back in owl

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Probably with sharyk

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Unless sharyk wants to pursue his own offers

gaunt acorn Oct 9, 2019, 1:19 AM

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📎 gauntlet.png

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do preds here if you want

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https://gigabrain.slmn.io/gauntlet

balmy wolf Oct 9, 2019, 1:20 AM

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isn't there a game in a hour or so?

gaunt acorn Oct 9, 2019, 1:24 AM

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@balmy wolf first match begins in 35 mins

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on https://www.twitch.tv/overwatchcontenders

balmy wolf Oct 9, 2019, 1:25 AM

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all right time for my preds to be messed up so hard

trim shadow Oct 9, 2019, 1:27 AM

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Games are in the morning rigjt

gaunt acorn Oct 9, 2019, 1:32 AM

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@trim shadow that's entirely dependent on your time zone

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use over.gg

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https://www.over.gg/

balmy wolf Oct 9, 2019, 1:37 AM

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twitch chat already with the pasta

hidden vault Oct 9, 2019, 1:56 AM

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https://twitter.com/washjustice/status/1181683718689366018?s=20

Washington Justice (@washjustice)

Overwatch League Playoff Experience ✅
Overwatch Contenders Experience ✅
Overwatch World Cup Experience ✅

We're coming home to DC with our eyes set on the Championship and @JohnGaltOW is the Coach to lead us there!

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Former LA Glads assistant coach to Washington Justice Headcoach!!!??!

balmy wolf Oct 9, 2019, 1:57 AM

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yea makes sense considering bawlynn is their gm

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Seems like a decent coach.

haughty dagger Oct 9, 2019, 3:56 AM

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rip all of defiant

balmy wolf Oct 9, 2019, 4:10 AM

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May they continue to be the bottom tier team they always were meant to be

trim shadow Oct 9, 2019, 4:25 AM

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now that i think about it

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is toronto trying togo after element mystic?

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it was either element mystic or runaway that said they wanted to stay as a team

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qoq is on runaway right?

balmy wolf Oct 9, 2019, 4:27 AM

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runaway has some underage players

hidden vault Oct 9, 2019, 4:35 AM

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I guess it would be nice if Vancouver picked up runaway again

balmy wolf Oct 9, 2019, 4:38 AM

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probs never gonna happen

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I kinda want all the players to say they stand with hong kong; I want to see if Blizzard actually has the balls to ban every single player

hidden vault Oct 9, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Not everything the hongkongers did was right

balmy wolf Oct 9, 2019, 5:26 AM

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this issue is kinda iffy and i really don’t see blizzard doing anything that goes against china

rough hazel Oct 9, 2019, 5:47 AM

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ip ban everyone for supporting hong kong pepeClownDance

haughty latch Oct 9, 2019, 5:56 AM

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ok

sullen berry Oct 9, 2019, 6:10 AM

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spam 🏓 this 🏓 pong 🏓 to 🏓 free 🏓 hong 🏓 kong

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*🏓

forest raven Oct 9, 2019, 7:06 AM

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EU best region btw

karmic grotto Oct 9, 2019, 7:07 AM

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im37

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auch

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Dude wasn't ready for owl

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heck no

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He should just stick to Contenders and prove himself

balmy wolf Oct 9, 2019, 7:10 AM

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EU getting destroyed in the gauntlet holy hell lol

karmic grotto Oct 9, 2019, 7:11 AM

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where is clockwork

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when you need them

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gotta keep playing that torb /s

karmic grotto Oct 9, 2019, 9:19 AM

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BASTION LMAO

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uhm

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A question

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Aren't Elli and Lul is Justice?

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Why do I see them on Gauntlet players list?

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Who does team Envy have as tanks?

hidden vault Oct 9, 2019, 9:24 AM

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Numblocked

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And check wiki

trim shadow Oct 9, 2019, 12:52 PM

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dude was stuck in zarya brig jail and were writing who he is based off of that

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and we never saw him in a even playing field aka stage 4

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 3:08 PM

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Kind of sad Talon lost that giant lead to Element Mystic last night.

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But hey, got to see Patiphan again.

hidden vault Oct 9, 2019, 3:17 PM

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He is irrelevant till he is 18

queen drift Oct 9, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Poor Flower.. after that last map it’s so sad to see him go

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 3:45 PM

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He lasted on NYXL almost as long as it took him to charge an EMP.

jagged crater Oct 9, 2019, 4:35 PM

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when does big goose stream himself playing the goose game

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would've been a great marketing opportunity if goose game came out while glads was still playing

ripe thicket Oct 9, 2019, 5:41 PM

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https://twitter.com/TeamIrelandOW/status/1181953505298395137

Team Ireland 🇮🇪 Celtic Wolfhounds (@TeamIrelandOW)

Our jersey sales goal has been hit!

We are honoured to be able to announce that all future jersey sales will go directly towards @DownSyndromeIRL! All jerseys will have the DSI logo on the sleeve.

Thank you to every fan of the #Underdogs 🇮🇪!

#Fundraising4DSI #Sha...

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pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Wait, so you're telling me a team can raise the money themselves to go to Blizzcon?

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OP.

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Nerf Ireland.

limber pine Oct 9, 2019, 6:16 PM

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https://twitter.com/SFShock/status/1181995624805175296

San Francisco Shock⚡ (@SFShock)

A legend. A family member. And a part of our history forever.

Thank you for an incredible 2 seasons @Nevix_OW 🧡 https://t.co/TVxJj95aNV

▶ Play video

karmic grotto Oct 9, 2019, 6:17 PM

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WHAT

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But I thought he would be there for another year

hidden vault Oct 9, 2019, 6:18 PM

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and sprite

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opps

trim shadow Oct 9, 2019, 6:29 PM

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And nevix is gone

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Where he will@go

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ANYWHERE

hidden vault Oct 9, 2019, 6:30 PM

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is better than shock

limber pine Oct 9, 2019, 6:39 PM

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who needs an offtank

bronze scroll Oct 9, 2019, 6:40 PM

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So, and then there were 20 released players

hidden vault Oct 9, 2019, 6:44 PM

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LAG

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Toronto

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any others who don't have a 2nd off tank (also includes shock)

bronze scroll Oct 9, 2019, 6:44 PM

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fusion only has one

limber pine Oct 9, 2019, 6:45 PM

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lots of teams only have one

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but will Nevix want to stay on the bench

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or will he go somewhere where he's "guaranteed" to start

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Needs more quantification too:

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Who needs a non-Korean Off-tank that doesn't have existing prospects.

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I.E. Philly with Bernar + Poko.

karmic grotto Oct 9, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Bernar > Poko

bronze scroll Oct 9, 2019, 6:46 PM

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which release suprised you guys the most though?

limber pine Oct 9, 2019, 6:46 PM

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So....

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Toronto?

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maybe dallas?

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Note is a free agent, so Dallas could make a move, Houston, Toronto,

limber pine Oct 9, 2019, 6:48 PM

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My bet would be on Toronto

hidden vault Oct 9, 2019, 6:50 PM

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but one thing interesting to note Nevix was passed over ELLIVOTE in the world cup

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just makes me wonder

limber pine Oct 9, 2019, 6:52 PM

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I wonder if Toronto will call up Vizility

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and/or Mistakes

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I'd like to see Mistakes back in OWL

bronze scroll Oct 9, 2019, 6:53 PM

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i mean, i would love to see a dutch player in OWL so yeah, call up Vizility pls

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also, on a completely different topic, has the OWWC schedule been released yet?

trim shadow Oct 9, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Nevix to dallas is cursed

jagged crater Oct 9, 2019, 7:21 PM

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lol @ people blaming jeff for anything

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like he has anything to do with politics, pretty sure all the actual devs want to be far removed from politics as possible

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which team needs a flex tank

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well i guess all the bottom teams

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 7:27 PM

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Did nevix even try out for OWWC?

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Gotta remember some players just don't care/give a fuck.

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Or was he trying out against a tank duo?

jagged crater Oct 9, 2019, 7:29 PM

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did sweden bow out?

upper hawk Oct 9, 2019, 7:36 PM

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i was just thinking that beemoo. sure itd be great to punish Blizzard execs but boycotting also punishes employees and game devs that have nothing to do with it

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because loss of revenue could just end in ppl getting fired

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its not the creators of overwatch or anyone elses fault

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one of the creators of WoW unsubscribed himself

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which is boycotting but shows the devs arent evil lol

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 7:47 PM

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I mean that shows nothing, that games been shit forever 😛 And everything the devs make lately is shit. He was just lowkey using it as an excuse to not play trash

upper hawk Oct 9, 2019, 7:54 PM

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lolll true

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idk. im not gonna just give up what i like because of that shit. i play games to escape the worlds stupid problems

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boycotting blizzard isnt going to make the ppl of hong kong any more free

bold tide Oct 9, 2019, 8:47 PM

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I'm out of the loop since I had exams for the last few days. What's going on with Blizzard / NBA and China? What happened?

limber pine Oct 9, 2019, 8:47 PM

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google it

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it's not hard to find

raw ermine Oct 9, 2019, 9:48 PM

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bliz suspended a hearthstone player for supporting the hong kong protests, and imposed other restrictions on him, including making his prize money 0

minor river Oct 9, 2019, 9:58 PM

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boycotting blizzard will help spread a message though? @upper hawk

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 10:02 PM

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I boycott Blizzard over this decision because I want Blizzard to fire a few thousand employees, and getting blacklisted in China is the fastest way to do it. 😸

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I also want the OWL cancelled.

tawny sigil Oct 9, 2019, 10:05 PM

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i dont think owl will get cancelled unless blizzard really stands their ground and owl players starts to "stand with hong kong" considering owl season 3 will be happening a lot in china

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blizzard is scared shitless of a pr disaster like that considering they have been putting a lot of their eggs in the china basket lately

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 10:07 PM

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My joke is just that China goes to extremes when you push back, so they'd blacklist the entire league (and Blizzard from China)

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And I don't believe the league could survive that.

raw ermine Oct 9, 2019, 10:08 PM

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yeah

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thats the problem with standing up

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 10:08 PM

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Since it would also be pulling all streaming, all merch, all sales, and most likely all player visas.

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Standing up is very important, but you always have to understand what the other party has on the line.

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I'm appreciative of the NBA for standing up, they're only risking ~10% of their annual income over a single tweet.

raw ermine Oct 9, 2019, 10:09 PM

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10% is still a ton tho

tawny sigil Oct 9, 2019, 10:10 PM

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10%... still more then the intirety of OWL probably

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i dont think owl players would start standing with china though... unless they want the league to die :Pà

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https://youtu.be/u_XJxqnxzaY

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trim shadow Oct 9, 2019, 10:14 PM

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blizzard has kinda fucked themselves tbh

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but that shouldnt come as a suprise since blizzard is prone to fucking themselves

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 10:14 PM

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I don't think they fucked themselves, I think people are -honestly- overexaggerating.

raw ermine Oct 9, 2019, 10:15 PM

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what if blizzard just ignored the thing and hoped nobody would mention it

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that would have been the best tbh

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Yes, China is completely fucked up. But Blizzard, albeit a stretch, still exercised within their rulebook.

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It wasn't like the next NFL kneeling bullshit.

tawny sigil Oct 9, 2019, 10:15 PM

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something people dont talk about is

trim shadow Oct 9, 2019, 10:15 PM

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do i piss off the chineese government or do i piss off a bunch of Gen X millenials

upper hawk Oct 9, 2019, 10:15 PM

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im not against supporting what you believe, but with CEOs that do these things...they dont care if you boycott

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youre not gonna change them

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theyre dicks

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and the type of ppl that will always be dicks

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Or they do care, but they're weighing whats worse.

tawny sigil Oct 9, 2019, 10:16 PM

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that guy did get banned for 12 month... but the 2 casters also got fired for just being there... that's kinda fucked up

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Losing a small percentage of a shrinking American market.

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Or losing access to China, which has been the worlds largest gaming market for the last 5 years.

trim shadow Oct 9, 2019, 10:16 PM

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easy choice when you look at

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 10:16 PM

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And in losing that market most likely receiving such a financial set back they'd be forced to fire hundreds, if not thousands, of employees.

tawny sigil Oct 9, 2019, 10:16 PM

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this is how fucking scared blizzard is... they fired 2 random guy that werent even involved in the thing just cause they were paid by blizzard to be there

upper hawk Oct 9, 2019, 10:16 PM

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the more concerning part is that a bunch of our companies are being controlled by China

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controlling free speech

limber pine Oct 9, 2019, 10:17 PM

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They were involved in it

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 10:17 PM

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It's easy for us to call them out to do stuff, but who are we to dictate the company risk employee jobs (and things like the OWL) for political activism.

tawny sigil Oct 9, 2019, 10:17 PM

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they were involved as in, they didnt comdemn it

limber pine Oct 9, 2019, 10:17 PM

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They egged him on

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 10:17 PM

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No, they also encouraged it.

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And promised to pull the stream plug quickly after it.

trim shadow Oct 9, 2019, 10:17 PM

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not every american based country has ties to China

upper hawk Oct 9, 2019, 10:17 PM

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some other kid held up a sign during a different hearthstone stream lol

trim shadow Oct 9, 2019, 10:18 PM

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it just so happens the ones with the biggest Gross income are doing deals with china

upper hawk Oct 9, 2019, 10:18 PM

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and blizz immediately cut the stream

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 10:18 PM

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And then you got kids getting upset over getting banned in Gauntlet chat for spamming copy pasta.

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Which is pretty much just...

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How the mods always are.

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But now its a giant conspiracy 😛

upper hawk Oct 9, 2019, 10:18 PM

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i love what hong kongs doing im just too pessimistic about the state of american govt. its been lost to corporations for a while and theres no getting it back

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morals are gone at the highest lvl. its fking sad

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 10:18 PM

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I mean NIMBY is a real, quantifiable, event.

trim shadow Oct 9, 2019, 10:19 PM

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keep in mind talon esports is a hong kong based team

upper hawk Oct 9, 2019, 10:19 PM

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but im still gonna play games and try to enjoy life

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 10:19 PM

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"Not in my backyard"

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It doesn't impact people, so they can't drum up the necessary feelings to care.

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I, personally, am more worried that we're caging people in a desert trying to immigrate to our country - because that actually impacts me.

upper hawk Oct 9, 2019, 10:19 PM

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no gamers before yesterday cared that China has rounded up over a million muslims into camps

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 10:20 PM

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I fully believe the people in HK deserve to be free, and have all their human rights. But we have our own human rights issues going on in our own country.

trim shadow Oct 9, 2019, 10:20 PM

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that doesnt necesarrily outweigh the moment of headless bodies sunni muslims have left behind but ok

pearl stratus Oct 9, 2019, 10:20 PM

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But because it happened to a GaMeR now people care.

trim shadow Oct 9, 2019, 10:20 PM

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amount*

upper hawk Oct 9, 2019, 10:20 PM

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theyre innocent muslims being forced into camps to be brainwashed or killed

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theyre not terrorists