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Told work I'd be in late to watch the grand final ;P
AEST. We switch to AEDT next weekend.
Dude 2 seconds
@upper niche my knowledge about australia and area isn't that good. what other countries are in that time zone? ๐ฎ
I dont think any are... Japan are 2 hours offset from Eastern, same time as Perth.
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All I want is the game to go to 3-3. Then maybe Vancouver wins
keep himself alive?... no he didnt
WOW

dva?
Well, they got a tick so we're not going to see a 8 map series.
Wait, no, there IS still a scenario where we could see an 8-map series.
There are many
that nano was some miss communication
I guess
oof
RASCAL 
Rascal 
Rescal
two barrage for two fights
daamn pharrah
that was such a good ult
Good that it's not just one player from SFS that's dominant.
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z12
55%
ooofff
good enough
lol, that wall picking him up was more beneficial
Ugh then we're gonna have a long break after this map aren't we?
yeah
DJ KHALED!
Half time
I hate that about this format.
no wait
haha
halftime part 1
'half time'... but there could be 5 more matches.
then halftime part 2 after map 4
Players need a break you know
haha
Shock can't play fair. That's such an unfair strat
this is next level of OWL play btw
after map 5
Lets see this roll
I'm super triggered
how can something be unfair if both team can do it
^
Breaks should really be based on map results.
I dont really blame the teams. I blame blizzard for balancing
@lost sky the fact that it's in the game is just dumb. Like it has no good counter
its not balance, titans are playing sloppy today
Dva is getting a buff
LUL
Dva counters bastion
ie, the first break after one team has won two matches.
omgg
Can't wait to see the patch notes before next season
It was better when bastionโs clip didnโt last much longer than dm
this is so much better play than regular season
shock could lose this
wow
ooo
Damn titans
I'd rather watch goats than this TBH
that focus fire
?????
on bstion
the nerves right now
NOOO
lets goooo
WOW
bruh
what a clutch
oh no
OOF
jhahah
F
hot damn
sudden turn-around.
lucky clutch moment
DUDE
YES
WOW
daaamn
WHAAAAAAT
what a turn around!!!
what did I just witness
titans are falling apart
holy crap
sms shouldnt have ulted
reaper smh
he should killed choi
VANCOUVER WINS huge on screen... lul
that was a bad ult though
LOL
na production
Holy
the nano on reaper was weird
That was sloppy from the shock
how do you fail so much
That was close
wait is that it
sms bad decision
wait, did production say Vancouver wins? lmao
is there more
@tawny sigil fr? XDD
the nanoes were garbo that defense
"vancouver wins" lol
I didn't see
screenshot pls
it's rigged
What, you mean they didn't do any shots of the trophy sitting in Vancouver? hah
Damn Shock gets another win
how is it rigged
Lol
NA production
please
You'd think they'd learn by this point
2-0
its first to 4
Doesn't seem good for the titans
it's best of 7
its 8
Gimme GOATS
do you think they're gonna switch haksal off
rip goats
i just don't want another 4-0 finals 
It's first to 4
SFS and Titans agree to do one last GOATS
those mei ults were kinda garbo ngl
im getting 2 ads at once ggwp
haha
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Lol is it me or does Shock only keep Moth so no one calls them a full Korean team?...
oh
Sinatraa is american, no?
@tawny sigil LMFAOOOO
Toy-mobile
oh
I guess they anticipated Vancouver winning
i missed that
Didnt play
lol, OOPS with that graphic.
I just got the same ad 3 times in a row
Production always has to mess up at least once
lol, American attitude of "OMG someone made a mistake, quick, lose their job"
Haven't gotten an ad
@silent flume got 2 at a Time xD
titan should get fired
Im joking lmao
Fire them
wow
@vagrant niche Then why make the 'joke' - it's not funny.
https://twitter.com/DallasFuel/status/1178398235704135680 old men aswell.. wonder how many views does OWL have with twitch views + kr twitch views + all those watch partys + china + crowd + ABC TV all together
@upper niche adrian just likes to complain
im eating pringles
At this point they should add banning to the game. One character for each role
and eat
who ever that guy is... bout to be sad
That watch party gonna become a collective mourning session pretty soon 
character banning would be interesting at an esports level
@acoustic terrace Hero Bans sound like a ridiculous idea.
time for analist to over hype it
its not something that isnt viable, just not quite enough heroes for it yet
I just heard the term
u said analist
Berry flavored win sauce
Puckett kinda looks like he's in front of a green screen
how many viewers did the finals have last year?
They make sense with all this bad srats
more than this
i vaguely remember 300k-500k
map 2 was really cool I think. because they had managed a lot of damage well
both teams
Yeah, 300-mid-400k viewers last year... 479k yeah?
map 2 is the best for nano amp matrix bastion
479k at peak?
it was dive so...
I forgot that the bastion got on the high ground with ult
true
that guy wtf
Blizzard claim 10.8m people watched the OWL GF, what lol
I mean... I guess China... maybe?
That dude wants Puckett to get off his lawn 
twitch isnt the only place to view it either
aisan markets & TV
what was my dad doing there
https://twitter.com/OW_WATER/status/1178395054886379520 you also have korea cinema
and TV broadcast... but still. That's a very uhh... manipulated figure.
this Guy said ez clap
Google claims 319k peak viewers on Twitch, but I'm sure I remember seeing the figure much higher than that.
zedd
that's a boomer right there 
still 0-0 ?? Oo
how many times did vancouver beat the shock in regular season
is zedd a boomer???????????????
why isn't it updated in the game
idk
zedd looks like pewdiepie
@supple prism thx @fervent acorn
i eat salt and vinegar pringles rn
how people feel about the meta
@balmy wolf so true
To bad excelsior got bopped up hard
didnโt zedd have longer hair a few weeks ago?
It was spitfire who won last year
this hairstyle suits him
let lucio win a grammy ๐ข
Is Grammy for music
wait the command center is free today?
This is weird
Ah shit it's anubis
note the grandmaster looking for a team in the background
@balmy wolf No.
maybe odyssey is gifted ?
@balmy wolf We dont have accss to any of the functions, to the extra POVs.
guys the overwatch league website doesn't work
better than paris
Someone add DMT
how can i check the standings and stuff
He wants a team
DMT... isnt that a drug?
@bronze sequoia Website broken for you too?
Change the url to /en-us
@tawny sigil don't know. He's LFTing
It redirects me to /en-au, which is a blank white page.
it works for me lol
thanks
guess they broke everything that isn't us lol
@bronze sequoia it's up for me what do you want to know?
The website on EU is broken
I kind of want to add him even though I'm silver
Na is fine tho
Yeah. They're good at not giving a fuck about any market outside the US.
Except for that time you couldn't change the language from Korean on the OWL website ๐
change to en_us
i just started watching the stream
Aight boys and girls.
Place your bets, will SHOCK take it to 3-0 or will the TITANS have a score on the board?
did they play any rounds
Well
lol
shock winning
I thonk titans will 3-1
im sure titans will win atleast one game
3-0 EZ clap
Nah 2-1*
can they come back at this point
i support them all tho
first to 4
xd
Remember when Blizz introduced sigma and ruined owl
first to 4
so best of 7?
yeah
4-0 EZ clap
excluding ties
yes
If shock 4-0, Jeff's getting a heart attack
all those flashlights omg
okay reverse sweep time
lmao slime picking player icon
i hope it becomes 2-4
is roadhog used in esports or is he left in the shadows most of the time?
orisa hog
In the current meta. prolly never gonna get played
im so sick and tired of temple of anubis
Nothing but Sigma/Orisa is getting played at the moment.
oink & yoink
"smurf" lmaoo
@frozen perch It could be worse. It could be Horizon.
I think shock deserve to win but if they run bastion again I might just go do something else and catch up on the results later
rolling
Sigma needs to be reworded
A good change to Sigma would be to make him stand stationary when placing/moving the barrier.
I'd say remove his barrier all together
that would just make it frustrating to use
It would be fine. Gives it some compromise unlike currently where he can just keep advancing or retreating freely. At least the 1s cooldown on it will help.
this is sorta esports related. is anyone getting the grand final sprays
Wasted sound barrier
the what?
sprays? :o
i havent gotten one yet
omegalul
haksal needs to ult in
haksal
what sprays
๐ These sprays are so CUTE! Watch the #OWL2019 Grand Finals live on September 29 to earn these exclusive in-game items.
Learn how to earn ๐ https://t.co/Kq5rrsq9rQ
524
2261
haksal?
oh yeah those will be easy to get
well, it's already been 1 hour
been watching since 2
i just want the icon
I mean this shit where Sigma just moves the barrier every time you move around it... that' sjust boring.
it looks nice
that was good
score ?
2-0
2-0
still or was there a draw map?
is the trophy meant to be reinhardt inspired
Still
still on map 3
lol "Compared to other T Mobile signals"
ok thx
@solemn vortex wow thats awesome
Sideshow's narration lmao
so i have to watch the match .. where?
twitch
on twitch
only
with a linked battlenet account
with your blizzard linked
I know, Sideshow is uhh... NOT a conventional voice for that kind of promo spot ๐
Dude jeff is in the crowd
no shit sherlock
would be strange if he werent
probably post match
Long break between sides.
He's prolly like "Hammond should have broken the game but I think we need to uninstall bastion"
Are they doing any kind of announcement during the GF?
they might drop a teaser for the next hero or event
That's prolly at blizzcon
not secrety revealy
blizzcon is right around the corner, i doubt theres any announcements
Actually, doubt they'd have anything new to show - the halftime is over.
theyve done event hints before on owl
You would have to schedule it at the first break, cos there's no gaurantee there will be a second.
Also, you don't take away the momentum from the show whenit's say 3-1 in a GF.
Everyone fixing their hair
If they were gonna announce anything it would be the games begin played in their home towns
we already know the exact home game schedule
Lol. Game music died
damn no battlenet connected .. i guess aint worth it
@sturdy river that's why I'm saying they can't announce anything else
oh
what was that doomfist ult
it isnt working for anyone
I kinda expect VAN to win on Anubis.
minsooo
SMS on Reaper is kinda the same reason I dont like watching LAG play at the moment - it feels like a one-man team.
This game needs a lot of QOL fixes
Oh dang. Are the Titans gonna take a map?
At least Rascal and Sinaatraa swapped out for maps 1/2 and are both doing work.
full hold? ๐
I think shock takes A in OT and then snowballs B
ooh maybe not 4-0
And both Striker and Architect have seen play time. Where's Stitch for VAN?
here we go
oof
lol they so nearly c9d
lol trueee

this is incredibly frustrating to watch
jesus
lmao
Thereโs my A in OT lol
lightsong is a psychic
Inb4 4-0
holy shi
damn
Snowball incoming
this a nailbiter!!!!!
dude these 2 teams
@north beacon true, predicted xd
Double shield meta is fun
lol. Guess I'll be going to work on time at this rate.
Legit
its frustrating for non shock fans ๐
and titans is the second best team
FYUCK YES
just imagine how good the shock are
Bruhhhhh
SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCK
please don't let it be a wash
I was thinking maybe I wouldn't be in til 10, 10:30? At this rate I'm gonna be in by 9:15 lol
why u gotta mock the other fans
Why do the titans keep using Rein instead of Hammond to stall?
from last year
I should buy a lottery ticket
last years best-of-3 matches was a terrible idea.
It's not worth it
it works sometimes
Hammond survives way longer
I'm done. What am I watching
if you want to watch a close series then watch SHD vs LSF because that did 8 games in a best of 7
do they need to play all the 6 rounds or if the shocks get this they win?
no
no
first to 4
@rare magnet shittalk between fans of different teams is normal in any sport, as long as its civil
they plat up to 4 wins
yeah
thanks
smurf wont diee
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
if my support was like that..
Whose winning rn? Iโm out and canโt watch
shock
im a vancouver fan, but shock deserves this, theyre absolutely insane
YEAHH
no
omg
no are they going t o
holly
oh

wow
theyre gonna take B arent they
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They'll hold off SFS on defence.
win condition
w i n n a b l e
Wowww
Yea. This game is actually bad. Might as well watch MOBAs
close to one tick
i dont like this
but the sprays
why are you watching if youre just gonna hate on it @acoustic terrace
@acoustic terrace
for the sprays?
yeah just go watch mobas then
Kinda doubt SFS will get point A let alone a tick on B.
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i bet 500 sr
Well I guess itโs going to 4-0
haha
if sfs win this, will they play a 4th ?
I bet 501 SR
Fine. I'll try and be optimistic. Let's go TITANS
Hey, this could send it to 8 maps ๐
i call your 501
and this 

I wish you could bet SR
I want titans to do well but donโt see the score being anything but 4-0 or 4-1
WHATY
Draw here, VAN win Escort, CP, another draw on the next Hybrid and Assault, SFS win the next Escort...
HOW
told u @upper niche
this is just saaaaad
welp
YEEEESSSSS
imagine it's a draw
@karmic grotto *
they cant draw here
D:
yeah they can
how the heck you charge coil so fast
yeah
D: D:
they can
thought they only need a little over 1 tick to win
Tizi keeps dying
look at shocks ult
sinatraa died with ult
NEed Bumper
rip
how fast was that Coalesence
Tizi not aggro enough
like 10 seconds?
they will have all 6 ults
I'm getting tokens but not Grand finals exclusives rewards is this normal lol
I want them to draw
ezzz
yeah neither am I
titans have to get value out of this meteor striek
strike
Sometimes drops are deleayed
Okay
wheres my 600 sr
they are so good
fuck
welp
@karmic grotto
DUDE
sinatraa is a madman
OOF
4-0 inc

I'm telling you
ez
match point jesus
told you @upper niche
4-0verwatch
okkayyy
This is just SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD
the eco run was so big from shock
gives 601 SR and
to @velvet scarab
People hyped this match to be equally matched
yeah this isn't fun to watch at all
This is not what you want as an event organiser.
they made vancouver ult for nothing
"3-0 EZ clap"
this is just..
DUDE I THOUGHT TITANS WAS OP SINCE THE BEGINNING
Bro
3-0
Did they revert the changes for spawns when point A is captured that was like 2 seconds or something
I knew Shock was probably gonna win but
I WAS WRONG
lol
Atlanta Reign should been here
Grand finals turns out to be just another match for the shock
ESPN/Disney are going "guys, we need you to draw this out"
boomed
Titans gotta bring it back
clapping the series 4-3 or 3-4
@karmic grotto LOL
still they manage to be in the finals
:D
my score prediction was 4-2 but that looks pretty unlikely
"Guys, we put 3 hours on the programming schedule for this, sort it out"
Hah titans suck
Yeah I had predicted 4-3
ahahah
how many maps?
they should rematch
Titans still have a chance, they just need to play smarter
obvious cheats going on
That said, my model said 4-1 heh.
play a 2nd one to be sure
Titans have no chance
Regardless of who Shock faced in finals
That'll teach me to doubt the software I write ;p
Shock taking in aderall
at this point
My odds are 75% 4-0, 20% 4-1, 5% other scores
esports doping
Shock wouldve won everything
is it best of 4?
4-0 EZ clap, don't @ me
shock could probably 12:0 titans if they had to
disappointing
Shock wins and Vancouver sucks this L
how do twitch awards work when watching the grand finals?
Oh look at thattt what a suprise
best of 4 with 7 maps
Shock is up 3-0
xd
Titans have never been boomed this hard since Contenders
adderal is a legit performance enhancement drug for this
@rare magnet 
kids with adhd cheating in ow smh
RIP Titans
4-0
4.7:1 odds against VAN heh.
rip
Vancouver doesnโt deserve this W #shocktheworld
If my Bnet is linked to xbox and my future overwatch account will I get my old all stars skins on pc lol
haksal counting the minutes until his loss 
lul
how tall is sinatraa ?
"only have to stay here for 2-3 minutes more until i can go home"
Too bad, was hoping for a barn burner and not a total shellacking from one side
A M E N G
Stitch has been subbed in??
G I G A C H A D
Y O T T A C H A D*
Z O T T A C H A D *
Lol. If SHOCK lose. Bring back Sinatra
they must make their comeback
Dude in the back stating in the camera
btu that is until Yottachad Ameng
gave Titans their blessing
to beat the rival Shock
Titans, rejuvenated, with the blessing of Yottachad Ameng
I just realized I share a birthday with the Yottachad himself
Yayyyyy. My boy Space. Wish they could have made it to the cutoff
make their comeback
with Jjanu on Wrecking Ball
4-3
they win OWL
all thanks to the spirit of Yottachad Ameng
Space's hair looks like a wig
bring back goats for the next 4 games and van has this
Best map to watch
This full house arena here to see a potential 4-0 straight shutout
@minor flame sfs will take this.
bastion 
@acoustic terrace Hey, its his off-season. He's allowed to binge eat and wear trackies until February.
4-0 and Bastion comps
@upper niche true true
yes ! bastion !
oof, that did NOT go like Eichenwalde did.
Are Vancouver just digging their own grave. Like what are these map picks
how many total matches will they play against each other? sorry i'm not familiar w/ the rules
best of 7
how did van lose that fight...
Bastion?
lmao yeah

zzzz
@minor flame First to 4, not best of 7. There's a difference.
yeah yeah i get it
not best of 7 because draws
They could potentially play 11 maps, I think?
they will only play until one gets 4
Well, not now.
shame what's become of this game, cheese comps ftw
theres only a difference since they can draw
this finals is
im so disappointed in titans
they can play a total of 4 maps tonight
disappointing
You say cheese comp, but its a very coordinated cheese comp
@lost jacinth feel you bro
still a cheese comp
if sf win this map they win forever?
yes
bastion bunker was only cheese on junkertown
@upper niche but that isn't fun to watch
@lost sky if shock win this match they not gonna play the rest of maps ?
THe game is not fun to watch at the moment.
Sigma shield, Grasp, Immo field
yeah because theyll be at 4 wins
Hell, the game is not fun to play at the moemnt
It's over rip
thanks @lost sky
Not with this comp no
3v3 is the only relevant mode in this game
Question. Do you guys feel like this is better than GOATS???
not a successful ult lol
But good thing we have this patch coming up
yes
This is terrible but fuck goats
goats was more like aggressive gameplay thats what i liked
I would literally take goats finals than this finals
goats was fine when it didnt last for a whole season almost
indeed
watching two top tier goats team is good
near the end of goats
some fun
was when it was the best imo
@acoustic terrace IMO it's better to WATCH than goats, but worse to play than Goats.
tons of things were being ran
i actually missed rein / zarya comp
If not for that, Dragons would be in playoffs
instead of always 2-2-2. they should have done somthing like "you can only play goats 2-3 games a series"
the last stage finals when it was goats v goats was more FAR entertaining than this
did I hear correctly during that last interview that the next owl finals is going to be in china?
NOBODY
yeah this is a bit of a wash tbh
Goats is fun either way if you scrim
Totally support

man this sucks huh
zzzzz
oof
ggs...
ugh
THEY'RE GOING TO GET 0=4'D
It's because Titans at least have sportmanship to NOT use cheese
4-0 AGAIN
Imagine paying to see this
0-4watch
At this rate I'm going to be getting out of bed at normal time lol.
bastion isnt cheese
all i wanted it's a close final
i think they just dont know how to play mei
not a repeat
How are the Titans ranked number 1. DId they just not have as tough competition during the regular season?
bastion is cheese lmao
Titans are too lame to not use what wins?
????
its not really cheese..
bruh
haksal seems to feed a bit on him
nice troll
@sturdy river 4-Overwatch you meant
This reminds me of alpha bastion with the personal shield. Basically the same
season 2 was only stage 3... lets all go rewatch stage 3 in rememberance of a good esport to watch
Im loving this pirate ship comp (no seriously I enjoy it)
Ignore the troll
people always play whats best at pro
Shock had the advantage of having momentum, Titans did not
levels
totally cheese comp
what's the link to the nintendo thing?
if bastion was the best stat everyone would play it
like strong cheddar
blizz ly owlgf2019
giving away a nintendo switch
US only?
@wintry kraken no because oh-four-watch sounds similar enough
of course
dude that analysis is so obvious

I respect the Titans for not playing cheese comps
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This is competitive play, there will always be cheese.
Henlo
bruhhh
i know it has always been that way
i dont respect the titans for not playing what wins
american insurance thing
Competitive overwatch has absolutely nothing to do with normal/for-fun overwatch.
they are farmers. dun dundundun dun dun dun dun

they threw the first match by switching brig lol
the titans arent intentionally not playing bastion you dumb
Leading the way
they just arent good enough at it
if they could they would play it
cheese epic
its not like Bastion is completely meta but its a very cheesy comp
Yโall believe they might reverse sweep?
why is it cheese
I didn't even watch sf shock before this but I might just start paying attention now lol
in case your spawn gets 0-4'd, get American Family Insurance ๐
shock are on a 19-0 map streak now
do you get league tokens from watching every match
lol @ frozen
God
@ashen sedge that's why. They don't scrim cheese comps. They want to play the overwatch they love
cause the comp itself doesnt take much skill at all and is very easy compared to other comps
and now the cheese is amplified
Am I the only one who doesnt hate the bastion comp?
you dont know them
like bruh
Titans are slacking more than me when im sick and I have work to do
So i just came back to OW after a really long time and Iโm watching the finals
my question is: WTF is this meta
this meta is cancer
if they knew bastion was better on some maps they would play it
I just wanna see a Haskal nanoblade
thats what it is
why is reaper good
they just care about winning
wtf
reaper has good self sustain and can attack backlines
the meta is barriers
Reaper is good cause good sustain, good tankiness and good dmg
of course they care about winning
Question: This meta or GOATS?
doomfist ignores double barrier meta
Goats
@balmy wolf this meta is not as fuckin boring as GOATS meta was
goats
completely honest
those cards look dope
true
ah
who goes to the grand finals of a professional season and DOESNT want to win????
also I see
id prefer OWL pre role lock here
reaper has an escape and can take down shields and shield users pretty well
rare digital content guys... gtfo man
goats downfall era was the best meta
not really
and I cant play any dive tanks
obviously architect is just a way better bastion than titans can come up with
But goats was so stale
Gimme dive. Anyday
dive is gonna be more viable but its not gonna be meta with the new patch
shock is totally gonna 4-0 titans
meta will change soon
titans look like they gonna faint
maybe next week
if the ptr patches say anything
I dont see the meta changing much with the new patch
i do
Titans are done playing against cheese comp
The meta gets boring when it's been there for a year
Titans was throwing last match
titan doesnt look boomed... they know they are paid to go 4-3
reverse sweep pls
dive doesnt care about shields lmao
shield uptime was buffed on winston
thats the point
brawl comp
but the point is that doom and reaper both counter the fuck out of dive
boring af final again
could be better on non dive maps
reverse sweep is pretty much impossible
how much were tickets for this?
like i said i dont see meta changing
but anyone can be wrong
like all of reddit ow was wrong when they said
sigma bad
he wont be doing anything
and now look hes a fucking meta tank
bruh
ye
is there also a 2-2-2 role lock in the league?
no one can be accurate about predicting the meta
lol sorry
2-2-2 role lock is in the league
cool cool
I watched the inaugurating season and enjoyed it a lot
the only thing you can truthfully say about the meta is that it changes ๐
this match is just a stomp
xl would have done better ;(
I hope next season isn't this bad
xl got swept too
This meta is bs
yep gg
can't say that when that's been proven
this meta is pretty awful
Without 222 this meta wouldn't exist at all
people say get creative with more restrictions in 222
Everyone ALWAYS says the Meta sucks.
yeah thats not gonan fucking happe nlmao

^^
spray
Yea. And Sigma makes it way worse
