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He rushed that blade.
ive ever seen
Too much panic.
Feel like Erster should have played Genji from the beginning
yep, already on 100, insta blade
but round 3 is the roll
Give 20 seconds, Atlanta shifts t othe right. Force HZS more towards the left corner
Then blade.
reign only surviving due to erester breaking his back
And yeah thats Atlanta's main problem, they're 100% reliant on pop offs.
Reign has been having some poor target focus and planning against Spark
there are alot of fights where they lost just because they didnt focus shit
and they didnt plan against what Spark was gonna do
HZS is a non-star team. Everyone just plays well together, so losing any one player doesn't change a lot
Wow Bazzi, great reaction
but yeah
Spark is a good example of a team with great coordination without
an actual carry
Guxue is a great player
I'd argue Guxue really only carries on Winston, he just plays well with everything else.
ATL have like 0 focus, way to reliant on the ults
wasn't he on china's team in the world cup?
yes
gg
his rein goats was really good
that sleep
that was a banger of a sleep
Bebe
GG
yikes
gg
this is actually what i call a Close Roll
The fuck was gator doing up here?
4-0 is a bad way to go
no re
I think Gator was trying to reset.
Just like the Spitfire.
And the two just followed him
SPARK WINS
And didn't let him.
YAS
got that pick right
so proud of my bois just for making playoffs ggs
I think Spark has finally proven themselves again to be a top team
theyve definitely overcame the meta shift in time
What do we think
this is when dogman get's the spark sick and they lose next match
20 minutes till Dogman makes a twitter post that they only lost because he was sick?
terrble way to end the season
i guess
but then again
Dogman with clown wig again and being sore loser
we werent suppose to make it
atl did really good yo. im proud of them and theres always next year
if he was too sick to play then he shouldn't play
They don't have other options.
kodak isnt on the team anymore
Nlaeer Moira.
bruh
kodak sucks
Poor erster
kodak isnt on the main roster
its kinda weird
That man tried so hard
we expected Spark vs Atlanta to be a banger of a match
Kodak has the same amount of Grand Finals appearance as the rest of ATL though ๐
kodak just had a perfect season in contenders
That was also the only match of these entire finals that was that one sided.
he is a good flex support
Like other than that every other game has been decent at the least.
๐ณ
hasnt London and Seoul been one sided
I mean to be completely fair
its more spark taking a slow time to adapting to a meta
Yeah but other than Gibraltar there was no map where i was like "Atlanta could win this."
FunnyAstro was benched since he was hired?
who is casting the next game?
FunnyAstro is worse Masaa
did he had gameplay?
He's not on the main roster.
gonna be honest
2 way can be played unlimited in Playoffs and Finals i think
but
theres no use
if most 2 ways arent better
Funny how the actual top 5 in the league is still in the playoffs
Jeez
I didnt notice Bazzi much
Atlantaโs getting rolled
bazzi was just shutting down erester and babybay
He's the type of consistency you want, honestly.
Bazzi did his job, nice walls and ults
everyone on Spark is pretty consistent
and thats all you have to ask for
except
Ria
Ria is the exception
hes not very consistently good on the Sigma
Ria outplayed Gator most of the series, honestly.
Faster/better ults, consistently.
Yeah but there alot of times where he messes up his ability
management
rotation thing
ria is not as good as he needs to be on sigma for this playoff
like in Numbani
There was not so much follow-ups on Gator ults as sigma
I dunno, this series was interesting.
and everyone died
His rock accuracy is kind of scary though
he had some very good rocks
Most of Atlanta mistakes i think were more for being tilted and bad timing
but when theyre not rolling
Atlanta relies on their dps too much, imo.
they dont have momentum
oh shit what do we do next
Especially Erster.
they rely too much on individual dps
thats why I predicted Shock would win
cause Shock had a better team cohesion
turns out that was wrong but still
I can't think of a dps they could replace Erster with where they'd have come as far as they did.
Erster is a monster.
Erster is a good carry
nooo atlanta
but hes not that great on Doom than his Genji
The apocalypse for players and coach is coming
He's good against Dooms of the same level.
I thought they were gonna give the mic to atlanta
But once there's a better Doom its noticeable.
why didn't they do that?
2 hours flat left for bl3 anddd atlanta didnt burn that time
throughout the entirety of a map
argh
My BL3 is at 64%.
genjis only purpose was to farm blade and ruin the bunker
I want to download BL3 but im definitely not gonna do it for the humor
the humor is hit or miss
ive already done a download on my ps4 so i just have to wait till the timer counts down
Do Glads have oportunity to defeat SFS?
the story is good but I think they peaked at BL2
and I dont think the story is gonna be as good
glads and shock is gonna be a close one probs
I just like shooting things for loot.
imagine downloading bl3 for humor and not pure gameplay
yeah
whats bl3?
holy shit
Gameplay is the real reason
what is that shirt
Borderlands 3
la has a chance
Borderlands 3.
boys love 3
ohh
Shiny raincoats
the best looter shooter series
I don't think LA has a huge chance.
yes
CRIKEY
WTF Uber and X
good casters
Because they only have on Hydration.
Gold
What are THEY WEARING\
Im predicting Shock wins
over
And LAG needs 3 Hydration minimum.
if only Glads had 4 hydrations
Hydration could be a MVP candidate
with how flexible he is
Hydration is their best Main Tank, best Off Tank, Best Doomfist.
no they need 7 hydrations
Awkward meta for them.
they need 5 hydrations and one surefour
so hangzhou making grand finals looks like a possibility
Hydration is surprising very flexible
NYXL vs Spark is interesting
maybe?
since both of them
dunno if i want to use "consistent"
have been really good on the bastion comps
but he is good
who knows at this point
Spark plays alot more counter defensive I think
i dont want spark to win :0 either nyxl, or shock. i dont want anyone else to win other than those 2
they know the enemy win cons
and try to play around that
NYXL is also more
passive?
I guess
Hydration is their best Sigma, Orisa and Doomfist
even if nyxl are passive, they seem to have been doing good on pushing and being aggressive recently
hydration's doom usage = nice
Spark makes it clear to know what their win cons are
and they go aggressive on that
thats what they definitely did on Atlanta
Surefour isn't fat.
I don't know who is going to win but I know that it's going to be more interesting than the last one. because of the casters
But he does a fat kids waddle.
big goose is a litteral fucking tank
He's got that fat kid flat foot shuffle, the kind where they don't lift their feet up high enough and almost trip themselves.
decay has such a tiny neck
u mean the penguin waddle?
big goose looks like a walking gumball with sticks for legs
Moth is upset
Moth is going to pvp in real life.
that mf black dude switched teams again
He's just going over the desk.
he had a spark jersey on with the flag
hes going to be given the mic
and now he has a shock jersey on
haha
goose looks like he eats mic's
hydration pls com to brazil
rip team brazil
if they give the same person a signed jersey from a different team im gonna b mad
Rofl the fucking chair shuffle.
purple v orange
here we go
This is interesting
Hydration sigma
Because Choi isn't that great on Sigma.
So you could play the weaker Sigma for the better Doom
seems like Decay doesnt even know how to properly rotate doom cds
Sinatraa should be able to outplay Decay immensely
this is probably a gg from the start
yeah
That decay ult was weird
i can promise you that decay is gonna get benched for the rest of the match after this. hydration is gonna get put on doom
decay's doom is sorta tragic
its funny how Decay was hyped to be like the mvp of glads
now hes just
bench warmer
I thought decay was a tank player
not really bench warmer when hes playing rn
Whoever paid $300,000 for decay is not longer employed by the gladiators, I can tell you that much lmao
hes gonna be the bench warmer after this map
his doom is definitely not gonna be enough
yep
The moira ult was odd
Nah, Decay was still a smart pick up.
from viol2t
The problem is no one can predict two metas where your hitscan specialist can't be used.
just saw the Reign-Spark score.. 
@pearl stratus He for sure wasn't worth the 300k though. And surefour's hitscan is probably a little better
^
but hes the only one on the glads who can duo with Decay
His Widow is better, I wouldn't argue anything else is better.
His mccree is better too. I've seen decay go onto mcree in a game and it was really hard to watch
lool
Sombra?
what is this?
trying to hard counter that bastion
She'll be coming back
hard to drop 70% i think?
HAHAHAHA
ok that slide off the wall
doom's rocket punch is gonna get a fix soon, it's so rare to actually have it work properly
there trolling
Best thing is
if Dooms bugs get fixed
You could have combo'd with Sigma.
Sigma ults -> Lucio counter ults -> EMP.
His bug will get fixed for the sake of not having a bug, but he'll probably get a nerf too
when enemy sigma ults you usually lucio ult then sigma ult too
Choi rocks arent the best huh
compared to spark and atl
If you have emp though you can remove the counter.
yeah this is definitely not the meta comp style
but like
Sombra Reaper new meta!!!!!!!
Doom Reaper dead?!??!?!
Wheny ou don't have to worry about the other teams Doom
Alright, bye decay lol
You can do what you want.
sombra reaper or sombra doomfist
sinatraa has no need to switch when decay is such a bad doom
wasnt sombra doom meta not even that long ago?
She's going to be so annoying when she can hack away Sigma's shield.
vs goats?
Decay is 100% getting subbed, and if he doesn't it's concrete proof that teams are told to throw matches sometimes.
it wasnt meta against goats
meta against goats was more like Pharmercy Sombra
or Hackfist yeah
but Pharmercy Sombra was the more popular one
It was used in contenders some, but never really made it into OWL.
By then it was 1:3:2.
by then Shanghai had made both Pharmercy Sombra and Hackfist into their own comp
Pharmercy Hackfist and Pharmercy Sombra Widow
Wonder if decay is gonna warm the bench or using him again
Still surprised at how useful Youngjin ended up being.
Youngjin is underrated
he comes in clutch alot of times
but in Stage 3 he was
the best doom
In fairness he wasn't ever really known for more than his Brigitte on KDP.
Then we got Hog, Doom, etc.
His brig was good but his flexibility to Hog Doom and all
was really good
albeit Geguri could probably replace Youngjin with Hog
I think if Shanghai had won against London they wouldve gotten further
Now, yes.
the meta seems to be more inclined to Shanghai
true
dragons academy team was actually doing pretty good, but they lost to the finals
Yeah they were paid to throw the match, unlucky
I mean, it's known that teams are paid to throw sometimes xD
or or your team is just bad
ok for real teams don't throw
they are right now?
especially when there's money on the line
putting decay in isn't simply "throwing"
He'll just keep talking.
Yeah we don't know what's in their contracts.
lol twitch chat
Whenever someone says something so stupid I assume their parents drank while pregnant I just title them Twitch Chat in my head.
I totally believe players get paid to throw, more money since they still haven't been paid since season 1
It's how I get through the day.
But what if putting decay in is throwing? owo
My mom actually did drink while she was preggers :/
Explains a lot.
Also find me literally one account of someone not being paid, even Rawkus was getting paid.
And they didn't have an owner lol
they will switch in half time
hes not benchwarming just yet huh
they should have switched before they're 2 down xD
So what do you want to have the worst one of:
Sigma or Doom.
They probably gambled that Sigma has a bigger impact.
wrong choice
have decay learn sigma ffs
decay is just voids live game set warmer
Not saying it was the right choice, just what they went may have gone with.
this meta was forced to be DPS centric
doom has a much bigger impact than say reaper tho
honestly s4 mioght be able to learn/play sigma, have decay play reaper, it's easy
you literally cannot be bad at reaper
There's plenty of bad reapers in the league.
Reaper himself isnt a hard character
With anything there's good and bad.
u cant just call out babybay when there are reapers who didnt even make it to grand finals
:0
his skillcap comes from outplaying the mirror and playing with your team
Heres the thing
Even in diamond they can't always.
finally decay is playing
Atlanta got in cause of Symm
mastering a hero is hard as hell
and Erster
thats the difference
Also playing Doom with Surefour as your partner has to be awkward.
Because he still goes for hard flank reaper whereas most teams use him more like an offensive tank
they look both confident and confused
Spark for instance just gives their reaper a shield and runs him into the other team.
Ria literally shield pushes the reaper up with Sigma.
Spark plays super aggro when they can
and it works out well
I mean its very efficient
It also gives a big ol' clumped up team for Doom.
will they close it?
you build Blossom fast
and you force out alot of CDs
as long as you force out something like Fortifiy
youre getting alot of value
I mean more that LAG is playing into Surefour, not into Doom.
Which will make your doom look worse automatically as well.
But BL3 is done.
I might pass on BL3 for a few days or so
September is packed with games
plus FE3H new difficulty came out
I think they're playing into sure4's reaper because they know they can't rely on decay
what other games are out?
They do it even with Hydrations
It's how they lost their last game too.
They play around S4 a lot
yeah
he is the hersey boi
jersey**
the best jersey sellers are dafran (before he retired) pine and s4
xqc and seagull were big ones too beforehand
of course
OH, has pine been played yet?
i think decay is trying not to get benched
Decay is too slow compared with Sinatraa
hydration's doom is as good if not better tho
I agree
kings row is always the best map
Yea
"they are getting rolled!.... I mean.... Yeah, they're getting rolled..."
Lol, it sounds like they try not to say that.
isnt it DPEI
yes
What's this about honest/dishonest heroes?
double shield enables bastion to an absurd degree
sinatraa got 3 kills as soldier what is this
you know how Hangzhou did a Close Roll
this is whats happening now
except its even more of a roll
4-0verwatch day
is decay still in?
zzzzz
100% they aren't gonna make it to finals because they decided to play decay
really annoying
glads werent gonna make cuz their tank line is weak
You lost your chance at 1 million dollars because you played decay ๐
They literally would have beaten the shock if they had just NOT PLAYED DECAY
lol
Poor management decisions
if that was the case glads still lose cuz void sucks on sigma
He doesn't suck on sigma as much as decay sucks on mei and doomfist
one player is not making glads lose
in general their not a top top team
roar has some problems of being in the wrong spot
But one player isn't making them win, because hydration not being on doom was a throw.
glads have more problems than just not playing hrydation on doom
2 4-0 matches tonight, cool
doom is much more impactful than sigma. especially vs. sinatraa, the gladiators really couldn't afford to be playing decay
oh look decay is out
Yes that's good, they might win a map
its too late
why did they pull sinatraa out?
Shock's bench is deep and they always play other people when their 3-0
void on sigma isn't as bad as decay off the bench, ya know
their only chance is if they reverse sweep, which they might be able to do if they keep decay out
because hydration doom is where it's at
control is next and liang is a map that glads havent won in 4 months
Where's super though.....
benched
k
this has been
a very disappointing day
i mean
it isnt disappointing that spark rolled
but
very one sided games
Hey people
sup
The sky
you ain't lyin'
oof rip glads
lol
I lied this wasnt a close match
Well i play esports for my school and the team we faced today was mad sus
They had a widow who was tracking our widow through walls and stuff their mai locked on to my head multiple times
lol that glads pic
these matches were so short today
the 2nd match would've been at map 2 if the 1st match wasnt a roll
Last cast for the Uber/X team, they're doing the grand final for sure.
I mean there's three more games, so if Semmeler/Hex, Achilios/Wolf and Monte/Doa have one more each...
really was
we thought alt was good, but no they just had a hot streak
im just glad ATL got roollllllleedd
i was expecting a map 7 or 8 type match
same
same with glads
atleast 1 map win
This has been an obvious day ๐ค
China numba wun and gladiators getting wiped is no surprise at all
doesn't make it less painful
Not sour at all over the Glads loss. They did good compared to last season. Like everything, learn and grow stronger. Not all teams can be Titans or Shock. Otherwise OWL would be boring AF.
Void I found was alright, Roar did have his days ngl.
I love these casters
"They are going to cap with less than a minute unless spark goes afk right now"
lol
Is this monte and doa?
on the rerun rn
Nvm I don't hear monte
So the top 4 regular season teams are now the final 4 left
So now if anyone bitches about competitive integrity when any one of these teams win
I swear to heck I'm gonna lose my heck
Spark vs Shock will be interesting
It is very difficult to tell who would win
Along with NYXL vs Titans
I gotta root for my one of my fav teams so I think
Spark 4-3
Titans 4-2
Nah nyxl ez 4-0 and shock ez 4-0 aswell
titans are not good
they used to be
ah yes the 'titans are not good' train again
Honestly, for me because nyxl beat ATL I am rooting for Titans, but on the other hand I want nyxl to go the finals
LMFAO I GO TO THE TWITCH PAGE to watch the vod withoutspoilers and the friggin autoplay rerun's FIRST LINE was from the commentatorys: wow that was a crazy upset win for the X vs the X
before I could even load into the video page ๐ฆ they had to throw that in
how long does it take to get 100 league coins for completely golden Valiant Bob
@karmic grotto nah it will happen
@tropic coyote 34 hours of OWL
not worth it bro
I usually just leave it playing in the background while I do other stuff too
I mean, its also if you enjoy it.
If you can't be bothered to watch it, spend money.
If not, oh well no skin for you. Ya' basic.
i have almost all seoul skins simply from watching lol
bought like 4 skins the past 2 weeks thanks to it
Does Rewatch give tokens
no
you didn't expect san fran to 4-0 the gladiators?
i find it funny how the top 4 teams in the overall end of season standings are the top 4 in the playoffs lol, not only this, but almost all of the teams in the post-season have been eliminated in order. The only one that didn't get eliminated in order was Philly
The elimination process has literally been
Chengdu - 12
Philly - 10
Shanghai - 11
Charge - 9
Seoul - 8
London - 7
Atlanta - 6
Gladiators - 5
Even the order of the matches that eliminated said teams match up
So if the trend continues then the next team out is Spark, then NYXL or Shock and then Vancouver win the playoffs
Here's a thing
We don't know at this point
You can assume but it won't happen like that
I said if the trend continues
i just realized something that i find sorta funny
and then i said it
so you're saying the entire play off was useless and the final result will be the same order as the standings?
What?
No wtf
I just pointed out that teams have been eliminated according to standings
and i find that funny
...
which mean... it was all for naught
if it does happen then i guess you could look at it that way, yes
i dont think vancouver will win though
my money is on either shock or nyxl
nyxl winning would make for the ultimate anime storyline
nyxl probably winning today they've been looking solid
SBB bastion > Haksal on doomfist
^
<*
ยฐ^
they likely wont play bastion
or not as much as they have been
Titans, Spark and Shock all have hours of footage of NYXL bastion to review
they didnt before, thats why they looked so good with it, teams didnt have an answer
If NYXL play how they did they might give Titans the advantage
Titans has some good adaptation
OWLDogman: "When we were doing good, our Academy team was the best team because they were beating us in scrims."

โฟ

when u get beat by ur own aca team
Is Winner's finals today first to 4?
something more Dogman says about their Academy team
Sugarfree becoming free, Saucy being saucy, Hawk being just a Hawk, Kodak, well, a Kodak, Astro is Funny, and (Gator?) not eligible
on rein only
Yes, on Orisa he isnt optimal
lets go nyxl
in spirit of course, in anything other than goats nah
Iโd say TiZi has a on par Rein with Bumper but Bumper Rein synergizes better with Titans
Do we get owl tokens for watching in the owl app?
BREN WTF
How empty is the arena that they're doing the walkouts from the back? lol
titans are not good
agreed

lol sbb ult
death blossom the air
I guess titans are just better at the doom/reaper mirror rn
Lord give me strength
I canโt watch the game and I really want to
And Iโm lowkey shaking
Nyxl plz win
What did bre say?
wow
anyone have an invite to the NYXL discord?
the link on the OWL website expired ๐
they have a discord?
That Toyota ad. If the match starts in an hour WTF are the talent crew still doing on the roads around LA? ๐
all the teams have one
@modest urchin https://discord.gg/8J5qXZ
dumb rebrand imo but what can you do
its totally dead in there
Just call it NY eSports ez fix
oh gawd and they have terrible merch to go along with it
CLUTCH FACTOR
That team fight wow
thats not a risk, thats a throw
The new SBB is here to stay
Did I miss something or
Ok NY is up in this series what?
Haksal is carrying so hard
tizi is no bumber
Youโre right, tizi is much better
Busan 
let's be honest here even if nyxl picked ilios they were gonna lose map 5
a pretty late pharah barrage there
wow
shouldve given stitch the reaper
Jesus Christ
sbb pog
lmao sbb
So tragic
wow
game 7 oh shit

nyxl on numbani is just too good
more like a crap map
game 7
Too bad it's payload so no map 8 ๐ค
final map
yep tiebreaker map lmao
it's dorado
pls nyxl come on
decent hold on a so far
yea
3:30 on clock
SLEEp dart pog
S L E E P
point b taken ๐ฟ
stress intensified
sabolbe

Why not?
final fight
Less than 40 seconds
oh no
well dammit
nyxl gotta finish it
or will they?
rooting for Vancouver lol
they are running their signature comp
When in doubt, go bastion.
nice team kill
i mean thats pretty much the strat bronze-owl penguin
agh that teamfight
whew
damn
LETS GO NYXL
gg
YESSSSSSSSSSs
NYXL played hard
GGGGG
SHOCK VS NYXL
NO
libero literally too good for his team
FUCK
GG!
ITS KAY
first time the number 1 seed hasnt choked
4-3
NYXL DEFinitely playing against them again in grand finals
not too far off
surely
I donโt care too much for spark so as long as they lose Iโll enjoy the last 2 games of the season
VANCOUVER FIGHTINGGGGGGGG
gg
im expecting Spark v Shock to be a 4-3
could be a 4-2
depends on who gets momentum early
shock vs nyxl prob
yea cause they haven't went agaisnst each other since stage 1
where's stitch
spark makes GF ill sell my kidney
Wait hold up
stitch loves to hide behind the rest of the titans
he's our shy boi
This bracket system makes no sense ngl XAd
it does
it's simple
this bracket system is used in every esports
lose twice you're out
so you make no sense
Did Vancouver win?
ye
yes!!!
not to be a sore winner, but
haksal on shrine was epic lmao
people thought role lock destroyed the titans
props to nyxl though they were fucking good and we may see the rematch in grand finals
surely a rematch
i wouldn't mind titans vs nyxl instead of shock
spark might even beat shock
So Titans are in finals and NYXL is in loser bracket for a chance to be in finals?
si
correct
Man its a bit weird
I expected the philly stage to be used in finals of each bracket and GF
Ehh anyway
Spark has the potential
Theyve shown that they are a top team once again and shifted to the meta in time
So now NYXL fights for the 3rd place right?
Shock, Spark and NYXL all have like
No they can still fight
An equal chance to get in GF
Its hard to actually say who will win
Cause it seems like theyre very close in terms of skill
Shock only somewhat Western team left
Moth and guxue only non-korean starters
Can confirm?
Yes maybe
I guess sinatraa too
Shock the world
Sinatraa is half white half Asian I believe
I remember his white mom
this brackets shit is real confusing



