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taking it to a map 8 and win that
wow thats tiring
philly needs 4 map wins, shanghai needs 2
not impossible
just tiring af
cause you're asking for basically two straight hours of wins
ikr
caps*
my, how the tables have turned
truth be told
poko has been outplaying envy on sigma a lot so if that continues then they should have this
yup
I think Philly has gotten used to young jin and are improving mid match while shanghai is like still trying to rely on the mccree and I don't think diem looks hot on it tonight
but its visible that pokos is drained
"hes a god"
nooo
YEET
its still fine
I mean
philly has more time
told you man... the power of the last push compels you
good news he gets a break after this map I believe cause another half time
these fights are kinda messy
poko, boombox and eqo are philly's carpe, neptuno and sado

half time comes after 5 maps
holy shit
wow
ez
"u say that and then. youngjin activated"
Fuck this team
THE POWER OF THE LAST PUSH COMPELS YOU!"
laugh it off
dont @ me
they are so positive
philly had three chances to close out that map there
at least they now have 2:40 while shanghai have 1:00, but this is looking too similar to the previous 2 maps
Monster Hunter Iceborne ad yaaaaas
there are no ads in these lands
Fuck bastion
i swear to god, philly are gonna hold this at 1.74m and then still lose the map
ez clap
1.74m... cant draw
dont lose hope
philly is done of the dragon's bull shit
arnt u rooting for philly
lmao if philly fucking lose
I am
i am too
I just point out the observation
It’s ok Shanghai I’ve been there. In the first round
they shld try kyb
on what exactly?
lol sym bastion. The desperation play
bastion??
It was short time
Now this would be the greatest hold
play sigma
greatest hold of all time, my body is ready
gg
screw it im not even mad
win alr
goodbye bastion
I’ll poop myself if they hold this.
ohno
goodbye sym
HOW
what the fuck is this fight
gg
I’m sorry but regardless of team I can never be mad at sym or bastion dying
another young 9
lets go philly!
how does one charge blizzard so fast
boombox hat carry
even if he didnt use his ability to get off the cart, they would have killed him and no help whould have came
its not a c9
“Guys I’m going attack bastion this is a sure win” - my plat games, and also OWL playins
Even if was a C9.
if philly want to win this then they literally do have to win the next 2 maps no matter what, if they lose one of them then shanghai can just win it on their map pick on map 8
It'd still be 4 less C9's than Philly has had this series.
rmb that youngjin c9 on dorado

Yeah, then they came back and won a stage finals on that map for the full circle
Everyone remembers youngjin C9
dude i love philly
they might be disappointing at times
Hands off
I'll miss him
but their personalities
Maybe another team will pick him up
Imagine being forced into brig in GOATS meta and then having that C9. Must have been his worst feeling stage
Youngjin rascal'd his time as Brig
philly is so good at pleasing their fan base and community
yeah, poko is outplaying envy hard
@minor fossil except for their losses against: guangzhou, chengdu and paris
🙂
It's one of Dragon's this season
carpe clutch
“Carpe you can finally play DPS again. And by that we mean sym”
against boston last season
Poko, you mean.
ultamate ks
sigma can just shield her off constantly
I want to know where the kid is who said a.) Sigma has bad damage
noted
And b.) Sigma wouldn't be played over D'va.
Because I tried to bet him he had to leave the discord forever if he was wrong.
And he bitched out.
i still have fond memories of when shadowburn outplayed dding on pharah
im not getting any owl tokens
it was beautiful
does anyone know y
It took me a while to get used to sigma’s midair splash damage
are you logged in?
I was like how am I always getting hit??
on twitch or the overwatch league site?
owl site
cause I think it's a good idea to do both;
like the mobile app
So many people don't understand just how much damage Sigma does.
Especially burst damage with Accretion.
dding only focuses on the other pharah when both teams play pharah, shadowburn focuses on the rest of the enemy team too, which means that yeah sure dding kills shadowburn more often, but meanwhile the rest of paris is winning the fight on ground because of the extra damage
Poko has genuinely evolved during this series
which is why i believe dding is overrated at times
How does Envy keep killing himself this series
Small Korean girl evolves into large male scientist
because it's worked marvelously for them all those other times
^^
Sigma can kill himself pretty easily when he gets low
He's hurt by his own left click self damage
ohshit

And his left click hits like a truck.
Pharah shouldn't be 45% of team damage against double shields
Poko is just growing more insane
God damn it getting killed by accretion as pharah is the worst feeling
fuk
Poko is getting carpel tunnel from carrying
Accretion has a fast projectile speed really, it just visually doesn't look like it.
is poko growing a man bun + beard
But its only like 15 m/s slower than an arrow with a much bigger hit box
not complaining
bro after all this carrying
nah hes just thinking about what to do
Poko “I gave up being a cute Korean girl for this”
"Toe fetish man. Sacre bleu"
Poko and Eqo are literally the only two people on Philly really doing anything.
boombox
Boombox is doing okay, but he's not doing the work they're doing.
also neptuno at times but not at the same level as last season
i could make the argument that youngjin is the only person on dragons doing anything
shanghai play too much doomfist tbh
Youngjin and Izayaki, honestly.
Izayaki has landed some crazy nades through double shields.
I give him credit for that.
the amount of doomfist they play is gonna be abused by other teams if shanghai move on
He's one of the only really viable dps in this meta because he ignores shields.
every team is likely gonna utilize DF if they can because double shields is a long time waster and insta killing any squishie to make a 6v5 is pretty good for any team
yeah they need to let mccree go
actually maybe I take that back
its not working at all for shanghai
sorry coma
Idk what he could swap to that would in anyway help him
mac cree please switch
I'd go Dding Youngjin, honestly.
ur not yveltal
Pharah Doomfist would be fine into Philly right now.
wow brig
ow
LOL
get fucked
fucking gold strat
dva
thats what they get for tricking us
alright can dding carry this map
dding loves this map
carpe vs diem
there gonna retake it 4 sure
I mean they could
but Diem hasn't been a huge contributor to the wins as of late
Busan totally
carpe does have a better head to head against diem but last time he literally threw just to 1v1 diem
Shanghai: pulls off big plays. Reaper: exists Shanghai: fuck
now contest point
for as long as possible
He 180'd that barrage away and back SO fast
nah
retake the retake
dding wont allow it
diem is not doing anything
Again reaper with the existing. Flawless strategy
if philly make this 2-2
come on!
bakc on doomfist
but diem is playing doom???
this is new
this is gonna be sad
philly dive pogu
Yeah.
the tracer did nothing
come on philly
CARPE SWAPS???
to touch likely
Sombra at 90%????
The tracer swap made sense
nooooo
He needed to get back in time
gg
There we go
Carpe swapping made no sense
but he never did anything and died off point
He swapped to tracer on that huge fight
not at the end
Legit
but for mojority
everyone swapping made no sense, exept diem
Poor Poko
philly couldve won already lol
dude is trying so hard
I argue the Winston swap was the hard reset.
@pearl stratus that was Eqo who went tracer
Ah you meant sombra
But his Winston couldn't stall with no ult, so it was just 1200 ult charge to Dragons
@echo quest Yeah, Eqo went Tracer to get back to the point during the huge fight at 70ish%, which made sense. Going back to swap back off it wasn't logical.
Ye
Oh right the draw doesn't really count for anything
a real half time this time for some reason
i can see philly getting the pep talk of their lives right now
philly have to do what shock failed to do in stage 3
basically
3 more map wins in a row
and shanghai would get every map pick
Pep talk or “guys did you seriously get booped off that bridge out of spawn?”
not even
Look they just played like 5 maps
they must be damn exhausted
Poko especially
shanghai have also played that many maps
and philly are turning the tides
or they were
up until lijiang
Playing 5 matches and having 4 of them be losses is also mentally much worse than 5 maps and 2 losses
Since both teams would look at the draw as a loss.
Repeating maps seems dumb.
yes dragons! play mccree!
they want revenge
do you hear the people sing singing the song of angry pokos it is the music of a people who are through with carrying
bruh these support ults
Nice ults
had to be hybrid map
oh yeah right
imagine philly winning this map, then shanghai picking gibraltar for banter
eqo is too good
dont know if the next map is assault or escort
apparently
king's row for 4 weeks straight
reminds me of those alienware arena monthly melees
Just kings row like 90% of the time
queue in the mid round music guys
CLUTCH
spawn camp omegapog
we gonna get 8 maps aren't we
Gimme another draw, let's take it to 9
shanghai dragon ball z
shanghai pushing the payload there is
dumb ngl
now philly have control of the payload
BIG sad
wut
Ah there’s the Shanghai I’m used to rooting for
''we'll probably be right back with kings row right after this''
The disappointment is nostalgic
shanghai be a good boi and pick a good philly map pleased
thank you

holy shit what a series this has been
philly look like they are just getting stronger and stronger for every map
It’s like an anime
but if they do make it to map 8
Whats the next maptype?
they have to know what to do against diem's widow
2cp
because thats what shanghai always do when they get taken down to the wire
I get the feeling shanghai will pound any koth map
Map 8 everyone will just want to go to bed
So philly has to avoid that maptype to have a chance
will there even be another koth?
if they tie again
imagine if they tie again
Which could only really happen on this next map
numban-broke
They could fullhold eachother inside their spawns on a payload map again?
they are running youngjin and dding
A new duo has arrived.
carpe and eqo: finally a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary!
Wait if theyre running dding is the map choice volskaya?
Hmm still a good pharah map isnt it?
yeah but dding isnt good in pharah vs pharah matchups, he focuses too much on the other pharah
as long as you focus on dealing damage to the other enemy players you should be good
which is what shadowburn did
I guess im just trying to figure out why shanghai subbed in dding it seems like a bad idea
and paris won
Double barriers should counter pharah too right?
lol youngjin will always get shit from casters at this section
I thought he was carrying shanghai for like 80% of the time but theyre undeniably super dominant now
this is one of the best games i have seen in a while
carpe on mccree
hm
didnt work for diem
might work for carpe who knows
they are at least identifying that dding is an issue
I think mccree pharah is a good combo for them here
we need neptuno battle mercy
3dps
They need to a strat to keep their supports away from Youngfist.
Oof that split spawn
why rez?
Dragons probably happy Eqo used barrage there
Lmao
yeah this dps duo is what shanghai needed
Well there’s the battle mercy lol
Poor Eqo.
He's doing his best to carry, but Carpe isn't matching Youngjin for disruption
FRAGGING OUT
So you can focus more on Eqo.
GET CLAPPED DDING
Eqo been killing dding a lot in pharah v pharah
yeah eqo just needs to focus more on dealing damage to the shanghai players instead of specifically dding while staying close enough to dding for dding to focus mainly on him
The problem is Carpe, while doing damage, wasn't really worth focusing on.
So Eqo was the only target
Unlike Youngjin on attack
Forcing the attention split
eqo just needs to take notes from shadowburn on how to beat dding at pharah
like i said earlier
@upper hawk I was on a bus ride approx. 1.5 hours and I come home to NA production antics
https://twitter.com/6arks/status/1167681617894236165
I can't work it out
and sado is not playing like a potato!
what is that
because hes on winston
I put Shanghai at choking this series
yeah i was counting just now and was like....was there a fking tie?
shanghai got clapped
and yes. there was lol
did philly lose a single fight?
that is actually 7 maps
yeah they drew on anubis
draws my dude
imagine if philly won on anubis
Play-ins are to 4, not 3.
3-3 right now
oh my god, from one EZ game to the carpe diem struggle
imnagine if philly win this and then they draw the next map
omegalul
Last map is KoTH iirc
whats the map pool again?
So you physically can't tie.
no i no its beat of 7 i was just like...this...this is map 8 lol
@pearl stratus last control map is quite literally sudden death for the map pool
Map 8: the players have decided to do a coin toss
the game ends after one team gets 4 map wins
ah right that would be different wordage
I'm so pleased to see charge getting back into their groove on control maps
I’m pretty sure philly wins series in map 8
Yeah but dragons have more choke potential
Eh, I'd argue its even. Choke vs. Throw.
Since we've watched the 90% sombra swap lol
lol yeah that was silly
Pretty far push for them losing the team fight
Gamsu stayed on point.
philly have to cap first and win one fight + shanghai's contest
philly just have to be as dominant as they were on the first attack
I'm surprised they didn't run Diem + DDing on this map though, tbh.
who do you guys think will win out in the end here?
yeah but diem was dead weight for a while
Huh would have expects shanghai to try a really aggressive defense to start the map
sado?????
lol
caught
Is monkey sigma a viable teamcomp?
Shanghai followed order of operations, Sigma shield on Sado.
Yank first, then destroy.
The speed of Youngjins in and out on Doomfist is so crazy.
the whinston will be there ddownfall i think
if philly loses this, its cause eqo spent too much time on dding
Gamsu is landing some insane halts too
That halt rocket oof
sadoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
We had halt + fist on the previous fight too
wow
YOU CAN DO IT
they actually did it
sado switch plz
It's funny to think of a series in which Carpe is the person who isn't.. really doing much.
Grav flux on point let’s go lol
SIG9 PLZ
only 7 maps
nooo
lol syke
wow I thought philly were going to win that
i feel so sad
Poor Poko
alright eq0.... i guess its time to go back home
No last-year-finals rematch
get yeeted on
that girl is fake crying a little too hard
Rip Carpe.
If he was playing like he did last year it might have been a different outcome.
Eqo Dragging dead weight carpe finally ended
Imagine those Shanghai fans are crying because they still see them as the underdogs from s1
imagine telling someone in 2018 that the Dragons will beat the Fusion in the play ins
But Carpe is kinda just.. CarpeReeee now.
they booped gamsu off but I guess eqo was too busy plonking at dding to hit him ore something?
Eqo provided a solid attempt at a carry though.
So are the Dragons getting their arse kicked?
next match yeah
Yes
Lol Dragons won
they won
also kinda this match too
paid crying
How much is the score?
4-2*
Draw.
They play charge next right?
@jolly pecan its an unspoken rule. If both teams run pharmercy the entire match is 4v4 with fireworks in the sky
4-2 for Philly?
nah
Ah idk then
london will clap shanghai
^
Dragons actually won?
yeah
london will lose hard
Great now we certainly get a 2nd rate team in the play-offs
I didn't
On their worst day Florida’s B team beats them
shanghai is on a boss rush mode since stage 3
doomfist is broken
I expected Philly to not adapt
If Dragons keep playing Pharah + Doom London is going to run into issues.
Wether it be Dragons or Spitfiee
Not unbreakable issues
But they're in the same situation as Philly.
They've got one dps
The only bright side of Philly this entire game was Poko looking good as sigma
and one washed up player
if dragons keep playing pharah, doom and mccree then london will win 4-0
So can profit shut down both
shanghai sucked in stage 4 though without three dps so i thought the struggle would@continue
but good for them
Because Birdring and Carpe are both pretty useless at this point.
Both shouldnt be in play-offs
it really does come down to Profit for london
WHERE IS THE MOHAWK
It becomes Profit vs. Youngjin.
A scarf with a hoodie
oh true 
Not sure how much Profit can carry tho
London has convinced me they can't keep up with the big boys in the slightest
Ahem Spitfire vs Reign
london will win 4-1 against shanghai
That was a meta ago.
yeah but scrim bucks
Stage 4 literally doesn't matter.
yeah we just saw evidence of that
It isnt that much different of Stage 4 meta if I have to believe players of most top teams
You need to stop saying that.
Has anyone had a bigger fall off than carpe?
Guess who had a 95% pick rate?
Sigma.
You've literally been wrong about this meta forever.
Stop trying to make Fletch happen
poko deserves mvp but they will probably give it to some shanghai player
SHIELDS AND VISUAL CLUTTER BOYS 
I mean whether or not your offtank groks sigma seems to play a huge role in how the games play out
They said in Season 1 that losing team won't get MVP again after the Diya thing
thats a dumb rule tbh
So while yes, Poko definitely deserves it.
They'll give it to Youngjin.
Poko kept philly in that match.
i need Hydration to smash on Sigma
Spitfire are definitely moving on
Poko kept them in it till the team woke up at map 5.
seoul vs guangzhou is a bit more of a toss up in my eyes
new sigma dad
nah
Charge are better
Seoul doesn't have the DPS to keep up with Eileen/Nero.
Better dps than Seoul
Fits or illicit take turns throwing so
If Michele or Zunba have a drastically better Sigma than Hotba it will close the gap.
But I oddly doubt that.
And Hotba's Sigma wasn't that good.
do keep in mind that guangzhou reverse sweeped seoul last time around, which was pretty damn close
Yeah, but that was with a drastically different dps set up.
Guangzhou favors the same comp as Shanghai.
So you'll be playing into Eileen Doomfist Nero Pharah.
im happy about the utilization of pharah
I'm honestly surprised by it.
yeah
But I think its more because you can't easily play Sym into an OWL level doom.
So Pharah was the next stop, or Mei.
well thats what it is for sure. doom can go right through sigmas shield and smash sym pretty easily
yeah i figured itd be more mei
sombra isnt surprising with the shields
Alarm,Bernar and Changsik are getting moved up
Sombra charges EMP really slow with the shields though.
They need another dps
after this, if philly get rid of poko then they are just dumb
ah fk i keep forgetting about the 12% change
It's not the change so much
As getting damage in on the comp with the rotating shield
Eileen is honestly, from my view, the only Doomfist that matches Youngjin.
So he'll be a threat the entire playoffs as long as GZ is in it
SkT vs Griffin is on let’s go dude
i feel like london has been trolling
fall off the pace as the defending champ. remove the pressure and lessen the desire of other teams so smash them
and then BOOM 4-0

Nah London is just that bad
They wouldnt even let it come down to playins if they could
If they make Play-offs they would get STOMPED by the competition
Apart from NYXL. They might get something done vs them though I dont expect that
too bad they are still gonna stomp shanghai
also apparently they have been literally destroying every other team in srims
scrims*
Well Shanghai is almost a bottom tier team atm... Not really a great reference point if you ask me
stage 4 is irrelevant
team did not practice for it
the meta was fake
as prooven by today's match... mei reaper was on the short end of the deal
What?
All of EM’s dps are Elite
Wonder where they will go
Pair Xzi with Eqo ezzzzzzzzzzzzz
Carpe is washed dragging my man Eqo down
Did Fusion or Dragons win last night? I couldn't stay up to watch it
why did philly and shanghai play kings row twice in the series?
@balmy wolf im watching the highlights, shanghai won
but for some reason it seems they played kings row twice in one series
i think i've been told
apparently it was meant to be numbani but the admin accidentally pressed kings row and didnt realise, but they just rolled with it
maybe
Hh rip Philly
Due to a game issue, Numbani was unavailable to be selected as a map in today’s play-in match between the @ShanghaiDragons and @Fusion. As such, after consulting with both teams, we allowed the Fusion to select a repeat Hybrid map. We are working hard to address this iss...
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What actually happened
@scenic elm
@trim shadow thats just what i was told
We were just looking at the rules before this map to answer a different question, but Uhhh.... Hello? Are we not following the official rules anymore orrr what? https://t.co/TIHaaj4Nrv
It was also apperantly a rule to not play the same map twice
So if kingsrow was just played
And numbani crashed
Then the next hybrid map is to be played
If philly won the series because of this the controversy would be humongus
Cause philly rocked shanghai on the 2nd go of Kings row appersntly
tbh im surprised philly fans havent made a bigger deal of it
Wouldnt have mattered
Philly was forcing mei reaper
And youngjin and diem were having a field day
@trim shadow diem wasnt having a field day, he was dead weight
Oof I didn’t realize how little sleep/prep Shanghai is getting
good as im a spitfire boi
mvp announcement is today right?
Ya
plz be twilight
I think it’ll be Sinatraa 
yeah.....
so it'll be role stars mentioned today
Hopefully I can come back later today and see that Shanghai Dragons beat London Spitfire, calling it now
Shanghai getting boomed from yesterday is so unlikely
Meh, its fine
I wonder if envy and gamsu will fare well against gesture and fury's scimflation
envy is a question mark for sure
gamsu is usually solid so i think that he will be able to perform
gestures orisa is pretty good though
monte and doa for seoul v gz, can't wait
its always monte and doa when its seoul... what gives
at least sexler isnt in sight
Doa loves Seoul
walk in from the back... wut?
they're trying to bait gesture to dance... not working
profit's been on that quickplay juice too
quick play hero
dwagons
how to have 3 dps?... just play a tank and pretend its a dps
sigma has no footstep... he can flank easy
Peak London beats any team
man that was brutal
im watchin csgo major and im reminded how much better the game is to spectate compared to OW
the pacing is just so much better
omg... what drugs do they give to the losing team during half time.
idk but they need to share with the general public
Profit tracer damn
dafuq
jesus profit
profit tracer is the only reason they made the all access pass
Imagine London coming out and taking this season finals too
“Oh did you forget about us”
london stonks sky rocketing
london just went full dive
alright this meta might be good
Maybe could be less reaper
london playoff time
i mean, the past 3 games we havent really seen that much reaper
london is the new york football giants of OWL
yes
the hell does that mean
im actually really happy they're playin dive too
Sticking to dive on offense 😮 Im excited to see my favorite teamcomp in rotation
but will it work!?
I think reaper moreso regular stage. And he’s not as fun to watch as doomfist
Reaper just... exists
is this the first time doomfist might be really meta at the pro level?
before only a few teams used him as staple
HOW DO YOU LOSE THAT
Yeah I love pharah
dragons dps are the only reason their staying alive
man i would love to see more dive
been a long time and very much needed in what might be a boring double/triple shield meta
envy got deleeeeted
greetings
Everyone’s dying
Wasted so much time trying to make that Phraah work
wowow
doom is now the broken hero
doom was always brokenly weird
his shields are the most bs part of it
doom is either feed or pop off
no inbetween
doom is only being utilized so much here cause theres too many shields
LMAO BIRDRING
what a bad timing
that's be all day baby
This is wild
surprise bastion incoming
The Xepher strats
awww
Wow this is turning out to be a better match then i expected
can i get an unexpected pirate ship?
kdp vs kdp 2.0
I think London should be winning this
lol pirate ship
Gamer girl pee > old man toes
nobody can stop youngjin "youngjin" jin
I only like watching bastion in tank and recon mode
cheese strats
and his monster turret
WHY IS BIRDING ON DOOM
wait for profit to respond
"PrOfIt aNd GeStUrE bEsT dUo"
shanghai showing a bit of clown fiesta flex
birdring going doom against bastion is a fucking small brain moment
Nano bastion plz
lol
that was a support 1v1
oh come oh
winnable
right there
Nooo Izayaki
on
Izayaki NEARLY clutched that
real gamers don't rely on dps for clutch
What an epic end to Ana’s life
That would have been insane he just gave up lmao
Qtrmain is a riot on lucio
you should not go fucking doom against bastion that is just a bruh moment
I know why lmao it was just funny
shanghai probably got this
Oof
This is what we do in plat. “they ran pirate ship, fuck them let’s do it too”
LMAO
London says we are making our own pirate ship with cocaine and hookers
For real
I need a clip of that close fight between izayaki and bdosin for a meme
did anyone clip it?
Izayakis sleeps are Kariv level this guy is nuts
It was a good animation at the end, Ana falling off the payload to her death
IZAYAKI GETTING SO MANY SLEEPS LMAO
thats on fury fam not pressuring teh ana
SIG9 PLZ
I guess I'll just clip it when they replay it
London are still gonna win nooo
RIP shanghai good try
it's a best of 7 right?
Cmooon
that's a choke
that's so funny
First to 4
they really should have stuck with the sombra
@rapid locust first to 4, can be more than 7
We saw 2 pirate ships. We all lost on this day
Did you guys see Bdosin’s sleep on Dding?
Shanghai have the craziest clutches and also the craziest chokes
Flux is literally worthless
they straight up miss both doom and reapers ult
if you do not take care of the baptiste
cause immortality just negates that shit
Youngjin shouldve went for the bap as Envy was about to flux
Whoa I didn’t know you could hide behind that thing in the ceiling
He had to stay completely out of the holes in that thing to not get picked by deadeye
birdrings doom is lack luster
That was dangerous of Shanghai to keep throwing bodies at that. Feeding ults
envy?
c9 fiesta
wow lol
we have reached peak control point
shanghai
