with the amount of CC and sustain Dive probably wont return
#esports-discussion
little silo
minor flame
this meta right now is very Sustain and Shield heavy
wintry kraken
dive is not returning, all the CC heroes simply killed it
opal spruce
CC and Baptiste
wintry kraken
we talk about OWL level btw @dusk sphinx
dusk sphinx
Yeah I don't like the heroes they added between Ashe and Ana
calm holly
Hammond tho
dusk sphinx
In OWL the Reign used Genji with big success
minor flame
lol what
wintry kraken
bap, doomfist, brig, they simply delete genji
dusk sphinx
Hammond is cancer beyond belief
little silo
and sigma is not gonna make it easier
dusk sphinx
Sigma is really situational already so....
little silo
"already" not even in OWL yet
dusk sphinx
In terms of comps he can be run into I mean
dusk sphinx
Hes not really a main tank, nor an off tank
minor flame
everyones running bunker
night tusk
I went smoking and came back and I see atl have rekt them with just score and time xd
opal spruce
What comp can sigma not run into?
dusk sphinx
He hard counters Hog
calm holly
Tf is a sole off tank
hybrid helm
You think you capped point B in 2CP and then a ball comes from nowhere
dusk sphinx
But gets crapped by Mei Reaper and Dva
little silo
why hog specifically
opal spruce
Beani gonna have an aneurysm today
dusk sphinx
Yes Dva, cause what will he do vs Dva?
minor flame
Dva is like the easiest hero to hit with Accretion
Accretion when DMed she cant avoid that
she has to either back up
little silo
What will Dva do against sigma
minor flame
or take it
Dva cant do shit against Sigma
Dva has DM????? wow i guess Dva counters 95% of the cast
night tusk
goats lol
dusk sphinx
That's fine but Dva can do wonders to counter his ult
minor flame
like nah
little silo
her damage isnt strong enough to deal with him in a 1v1
How does she counter his ult
wintry kraken
best counter to sigma's ult is bap
dusk sphinx
Also people play Dva passively so you have to break the shield to rock her
wintry kraken
that and lucio
minor flame
The main thing Sigma has a problem with is Mei
but honestly
thats the point of a team
with the support he gets it wont matter
little silo
Ok so how does a passive Dva counter sigma
dusk sphinx
And still Mei Reaper wipes the floor with Sigma
dusk sphinx
Even then,
opal spruce
Yeah that darn reaper, giving sigma insane shields
minor flame
then their DPS and Support line is just going to pocket his ass
little silo
sigma is hard to take out if he gets healed. He has his shift, can stun a dps and can keep putting up his shield
minor flame
Sigma has a short ranged DM that gives him shields already giving him a advantage against reaper allowing his team to support him
Mei? Yeah sure Mei is like the only thing that Sigma has a problem against
but a sole counter to one hero
is not gonna destroy a comp
dusk sphinx
Sigma doesn't do well vs Mei in general, and with a full pocket EVERY hero will do amazing on it's own
opal spruce
So basically you just countered your own argument
little silo
even without a pocket sigma is probably the best main tank to take 1v1s
dusk sphinx
And let's not forget that Mei is run in every comp atm
minor flame
hey St
night tusk
there should be a way that you can watch the game and hear the gameplay but muting semmler and hex
minor flame
how is Mei gonna get past double shield
balmy wolf
You run past it.
dusk sphinx
Pro teams call Mei Reaper Neo-Goats for a reason
minor flame
new Your Overwatch video
who tf says Neo Goats
wtf
people should just call it Milkshake
dusk sphinx
Or Lucio Speed Boost gets you a whole way
minor flame
Milkshake is the best meta name
opal spruce
@night tusk would be cool just to have a game sounds choice
So mei is gonna walk past the 2 shields and into 6 enemies?
dusk sphinx
The Valiant coach I believe explained that
opal spruce
You see the problem there?
minor flame
Sigma and Orisa can play so defensively
if their Mei Reaper can get into the Sigma Orisa
the Sigma's mei reaper can play defensively
and catch them out
night tusk
guys, its drawable 
minor flame
anyways
Sigma
is like really fucking good
he has the potent to be the best off tank
little silo
Thats big
night tusk
NO OT
tawny sigil
0.3 sec
night tusk
OMG NO OT
little silo
OT?
azure harbor
little silo
fuck
hybrid helm
Am I the only one who cringes from mr.X? I know he isn’t commentating now but still
vale pond
Bruh
night tusk
Bruh
calm holly
Unkoe left note during trans :(
vale pond
that was such a wiff
calm holly
Well
calm holly
It's possible now, at least
vale pond
That was atl’s throw
minor flame
you are probably the worst team
vale pond
Dogman and frd tried to bm with the ult combo
night tusk
boston looks worse
vale pond
zachareee ended up oppping off for the first time ever
dusk sphinx
Atl arent even playing crazy seriously
hybrid helm
Zachafeed
dusk sphinx
Just trying new stuff
minor flame
this is not new stuff...
dusk sphinx
Sym?
little silo
they just needed to stall for less than a second...
night tusk
famous akm was on anubis wtf
hybrid helm
Atl sandbagging
minor flame
Symm is a niche pick at 2CP
dusk sphinx
Or you know... Hanzo is just doing stupid Hanzo stuff wtf I hate that hero
minor flame
Erster playing hanzo is not new
nova wadi
lol
minor flame
like at all
nova wadi
so uh question
night tusk
LOL
minor flame
mom ent
night tusk
LOOOOL
nova wadi
for how long has hanzo been played this meta
azure harbor
Dallas is back?
calm holly
Holy shit dallas
trim shadow
friendly reminder atlantla didnt prepare
night tusk
from 0.3 to 4 points
trim shadow
which honestly
vale pond
Boi
trim shadow
i find stupid when your vying for a top 6
hybrid helm
Now Dallas used all their pop off juice in one round
calm holly
Winnable
minor flame
you shouldnt even prepare for Dallas in the first place
dusk sphinx
Urgh I wish they nerfed Hanzo to the point where he's like a worse Widow... Hurts to see... Frontline sniper my arse
nova wadi
lol why do u hate hanzo so much
vale pond
this is just atl throwing for a map as usual
minor flame
and then crush their advantage
night tusk
no main support ?
nova wadi
last time i saw you complain about him you said he required no aim
vale pond
T happens
nova wadi
@night tusk ?
dusk sphinx
Well I hate Hanzo for one, cause I get hit by him with BS shots, and two, he has literally no counter
night tusk
2 off supports vs 2 main supports xd
minor flame
the shitty thing with that argument is that you say Widow is like a perfect sniper
little silo
Hanzo lacks a big weakness
nova wadi
bap isnt a off support in that comp lol
minor flame
when Widow and Hanzo are the same
cursive talon
gotta practice dat sigma path doe
nova wadi
and mercy isnt a main support in that comp
azure harbor
ez counter
nova wadi
obviously since theyre playing pharmercy
dusk sphinx
Widow does get hard countered though
dusk sphinx
Dive usually tends to shut down Widow
nova wadi
lol.
nova wadi
dive also tends to shut down hanzo
dusk sphinx
Also Shields beat Widow
minor flame
just stay behind Shield 4Head
dusk sphinx
If you don't expose yourself Widow is useless in general
night tusk
nlaaer 
azure harbor
sleep
trim shadow
LMAO
minor flame
just dont expose yourself 4head
little silo
So if you cant move you counter her got it
dusk sphinx
Hanzo doesn't care about shields
nova wadi
@minor flame i mean you make it sound stupid but a lot of the time thats literally how people die for 0 reason
ah lets peek this widow while i walk in a straight line
minor flame
just sitting behind shield is not gonna counter widow though
dusk sphinx
Also looking at non-OWL
minor flame
if your team is good
night tusk
akm should not go for the push
nova wadi
of course it isnt
minor flame
a Off Angle is actually so powerful
nova wadi
but a lot of widow comes down to awareness
nova wadi
90% of her gameplay is waiting for the enemy to mess up
minor flame
thats if your a bad widow
nova wadi
not really
dusk sphinx
It will counter Widow since Widow is a DPS without shield break. Its a punish hero if anything
nova wadi
its literally what the top widows do
dusk sphinx
Hanzo does the same but also breaks shields and with much less effort too
People call him Spamzo for a reason
little silo
Hanzo isnt as reliable when it comes to getting picks
azure harbor
ez
little silo
but his overall damage output is better
wintry kraken
2 seconds
minor flame
unlucky for fuel
calm holly
Really good stall
night tusk
6 7
vale pond
Holy shit 2 seconds
minor flame
AKM being the most predictable pharah
little silo
Are you impressed by the 2 seconds when Dallas finished Round 1 with 0,3
cursive talon
1 minute each basically right?
hybrid helm
0-7 bois 
wintry kraken
@cursive talon not sure if dallas gets attack
dusk sphinx
Well Hanzo punishes mistakes less, but is overall just much less exposed too and also has the most BS ability next to Dmatrix
little silo
yes they do get an attack
hybrid helm
Both get a minute
nova wadi
if its 0.3 secs they get a min
minor flame
imagine
nova wadi
so
little silo
OT gives you an attack when the other team doesnt finish with more than a minute left
vale pond
bruh
hybrid helm
They will they are reliable
minor flame
why is
tawny sigil
drawable
cursive talon
that's a fubar
night tusk
no draw
azure harbor
Fuel
little silo
why did they get a tick
trim shadow
atlanta was focusing on kills
dusk sphinx
They were hoping to break the Reign position
trim shadow
silent dallas
night tusk
because they had no choise
trim shadow
kinda sad
tawny sigil
c9'ing
trim shadow
destroy them anyway
dusk sphinx
But Fuels front got Goated
night tusk
rather give a tic than have a chance to die and give them a point
minor flame
I dont see how Fuel thought
little silo
Ok this is where Erster takes the weights off
azure harbor
get back QXC and Seagull
minor flame
hey lets give AKM and Unkoe off angles
for no reason
and lets just leave front line with no dps
and let them fucking die
azure harbor
variety streamer
little silo
LoL streamer I think
hybrid helm
Remember emongg in pro games? PepeHands
minor flame
AKM needs to not play so aggresively this time
nova wadi
xqc is a minecraft streamer
minor flame
his Barrage threw that point
cursive talon
gg fuel
minor flame
if he doesnt play as aggressively they have a big chance
azure harbor
his brother
nova wadi
the nades are pog
azure harbor
winnable for Dallas
night tusk
c9
nova wadi
huh
minor flame
Reign9
night tusk
OMG
minor flame
Reign9
little silo
Note go for the Ana?
nova wadi
how was dva not on point
azure harbor
c9
minor flame
frozen
night tusk
he got booped
vale pond
What the fuckthey
hybrid helm
Wasn’t FRD on point?
trim shadow
booped?
night tusk
RIGGED
hybrid helm
Lol
trim shadow
nani?
upper niche
are they in different rooms for this weekend?
hybrid helm
He wasn’t bopped
minor flame
I think FRD was on the plaftorm that the point was on
trim shadow
frd got fucking daco'd
minor flame
but he wasnt actually in the point
hybrid helm
FRD got robbed
vale pond
He was off by a pixel
azure harbor
rigged game
night tusk
trim shadow
litterally lost the map by a fucking toe nail
nova wadi
one of frd his feet was on the point reee
minor flame
I dont think it wouldve made much of a difference anyways honestly
Fuel was most likely gonna win that
vale pond
p sure 3-1 instead of 4-0 matters for reign
in terms of 5th seed
Or does glad losing just guarantee it for them?
hybrid helm
Glad won’t stomp LAV imo
hybrid helm
Gonna be close
minor flame
they break LAV record
they break NYXL record
theyre gonna break Fuel record
that would be pretty funny to look at
vale pond
I would be pissed
hybrid helm
@minor flame too bad they didn’t break Shanghai record.. the biggest record
minor flame
that would be the biggest record of history for ATL
hybrid helm
Haha
minor flame
ATLs strongest suit is like Mei defense honestly
so them rolling at KOTH shouldnt be surprising with this type of comp
night tusk
https://twitter.com/BostonUprising/status/1165379751730647043 spoilers || persia and blase on tank ||
minor flame
oh boy my name is blase
hybrid helm
Do you think Zachareee was promised in contract to play every map for whole season?
hybrid helm
Can’t see any other reason they put him in
minor flame
tank jail
nova wadi
@minor flame and then people hate on him for being upset
minor flame
he kinda had the right to complain cause he is actually a decent brig
unlike zach
and he isnt spamming it nearly every day
nova wadi
i mean he also has the right to complain about being in tank jail
minor flame
its just unlucky
nova wadi
cause im pretty sure he isnt signed for that
nova wadi
like i know rck and stuff
minor flame
only played for his ball
night tusk
nova wadi
but imagine applying for a specific kind of job, and they just put you on a different one
minor flame
hey man
you join your team to make them win
if you flex
you use that flex
to win
mental estuary
What the fuck the tweet im dead
night tusk
that video
nova wadi
but then again r/COW is dumb in general
minor flame
I think people underrate guxue for mvp
for someone whose a different language speaker than the literal rest of the team
he still managed to be a good shotcaller
and his improvement on tanks is just great
Fuel looked actually good on Volskaya
thats why theyre gonna lose
wintry kraken
was that a joke vs UK people ? 😄
minor flame
they do good on one map
wintry kraken
kit kat with milk ?
minor flame
then they dont do good at all later on
marsh pumice
yeh
little silo
if we factor in stage 4 Im honestly not sure who will get it
Twilight and Sinatraa are still the front runners but idk
night tusk
i remember that reaper was almost never picked. its crazy to see he is kinda meta and would be happy if I was a reaper main
marsh pumice
balmy wolf
Sinatraa is gonna get it; not saying he deserves it but based on the most noticable amounts of play he is gonna get it
night tusk
so this is the last weekend we have a chance to see pine...
vale pond
oof
balmy wolf
I mean sure; has he played at all this season? Just for fanservice since we all know NYXL is making it to the semi finals anyway
Cause I sure as hell don't care about flower
night tusk
he was forced by fans to play on all stars or we would not see him this season at all
night tusk
mickie
balmy wolf
Yea but like you gotta remind and refresh the audience why they're fan favorites
night tusk
symm makes those matches fun
dusk sphinx
Bruh Reign Sym OTPs now?
balmy wolf
Sym is meta for semi finals
dusk sphinx
balmy wolf
With Sigma
wintry kraken
not even bothering with turrets
vale pond
just microwave then ok
night tusk
babybay mccree pog
wintry kraken
who would have thought sym will be the key to unlock mei/reaper bunjker
balmy wolf
I turn my face back to screen didn't even notice the swap and now he's on 40%
what bull shittery is this
night tusk
rascal symm is so strong. even when goats was meta but even his own team mates dont trust him on it
balmy wolf
sym be a glass cannon that's why
wintry kraken
i mean sym triggered pharah, which triggered cree, so now what next 😄
balmy wolf
Alright bois
wintry kraken
"effective offense" - slower by 30s than FUel
balmy wolf
yes
night tusk
yeah, would be crazy if he just died from that bomb
babybay so unlucky xd
the reset of note did not give masaa ult charge
so good move
balmy wolf
"They refuse to say die"
night tusk
YEAh
azure harbor
night tusk
damn babybayy
balmy wolf
Babybay: "DIE DIE DIE"
dusk sphinx
Dear god Babybay carrying
vale pond
Holy shit babybay carried that map
dusk sphinx
Who needs Erster?
vale pond
That was fucking epic
minor flame
that is a definite bruh moment
vale pond
each atl player stepping up
wintry kraken
getting a year worth of kit kats is how you make someone go from liking your product to hating it 😄
vale pond
yeet
tawny sigil
are we getting wet shirt contest in OWL?
marsh pumice
dallas going to lose again
night tusk
is zach doing good or should frd eat atleast more mei ults?
balmy wolf
both?
minor flame
Zach actually kinda threw that
vale pond
zach is doing well
minor flame
lets look at the mind of Zach
balmy wolf
He's not doing bad as he usually does
vale pond
Mor that map
vale pond
but volskaya he did
minor flame
then fucking freeze the bongo
vale pond
He carried
dusk sphinx
Or you know, you say what every Mercy main ever says: "hE JUst DiD HiS JOb"
vale pond
kings row was pepega though
night tusk
since frd did not eat any ult while you see it from the other high teams dva
balmy wolf
Zack did well this bap, he just didn't expect to get instantly melted by Reaper at point blank cause he thought his team was behind him while his mei ult was going off
vale pond
bruh
minor flame
his mei ult was literally like 10 secs ago
by the time he targets the bongo
he couldve icicled it too
dusk sphinx
Well it was unlucky with the Blizzard of Erster too imo
dusk sphinx
He didn't
night tusk
i dont see the zachareee throw it but this guy is charging his ult really fast
vale pond
he threw it into a wall
dusk sphinx
He threw it into a Mei wall
night tusk
wasnt estern denied from that mei wall
vale pond
Yes
minor flame
youre right i thought about that the last round
dusk sphinx
I don't think you're watching the match are you?
minor flame
not the second
vale pond
Zach surprisingly is playinf better than the rest of his team
warm helm
Babybay our the team on his back though
I feel like babybay always comes alive in high pressure situations
dusk sphinx
Yeah which is odd since that's usually Taimous job
vale pond
Atlanta takes turns carrying
night tusk
golden boy 🙂
vale pond
bruh
dusk sphinx
Reign is just good in general
vale pond
ye
trim shadow
zach is slowly trending up but i think its the hunger to not fucking go 0-7
vale pond
I’m glad my boys gave done wel
dusk sphinx
With Erster and FRD being some of the best in the league
night tusk
mickie
warm helm
I would’ve like to see babybay on widow during that second fight
vale pond
Mickie
little silo
and gg
trim shadow
pause meta has returenddd
night tusk
maybe he can atleast ults
vale pond
Now I feel bad that dallas is gonna lose
minor flame
PAUSE PAUSE PAUSE
night tusk
eat *
balmy wolf
bruh just enjoy it; good fanservice with the mickie
little silo
i havent seen ersters widow yet
night tusk
Twitter
night tusk
for the ones here that did not know
warm helm
Was unknown crying during that pause 😂
warm helm
They put him on the camera and he liked he was crying
night tusk
he just wanted a highlight play
raw ermine
oof
minor flame
Theres no reason they should be losing this
Taimou is literally overextending
every time
little silo
taimou is popping
minor flame
and they are still losing
night tusk
cmon man, let taimou have his montage video
vale pond
bruh
night tusk
https://twitter.com/NYXL/status/1165391031308828672 spoilers || no pine ||
balmy wolf
No surprise there
night tusk
maybe NYXL will experiment again
little silo
i cant hide chat in the twtch app are you serious
night tusk
did you try to close the app and open ?
little silo
yes
night tusk
I mean not just out and open. idk if you use iphone or android
little silo
android i did restart it properly
night tusk
than my best tip is to get a iphone (jk)
vale pond
Thats a decent push
little silo
please dude I dont want a map 5
warm helm
Atlanta always looks really strong on defense on this map
But that’s my team I’m just being hopeful
marsh pumice
the casting.. so lame and so unprofessional and gives OW a bad reputation
i mean you can be funny but be smart while at it
balmy wolf
...
Literally at the world cup
They chugged maple syrup to say they cheered for Team Canada
You can have your professionalism, I'll take fun over professionalism anyday
light flint
lul
little silo
Yeah but that was the desk and not the casters
night tusk
that was ss, bren & sideshow can do that
little silo
sideshow chugged it
balmy wolf
I'm pretty sure it was sideshow
marsh pumice
yes they have fun moments that are entertaining but sometimes like a few ago they talk stuff that they shouldn't
the taller caster is good the other one i don't know the name, man so lame the always laughing and talking bs
oh wow they finally slowed them
little silo
semmler is way worse
marsh pumice
to be honest i don't really know most of their names
little silo
the man has no clue whats going on and just reads the killfeed while repeating catchphrases
you can also see which team he prefers
marsh pumice
exactly kinda like this one and on the dead times he talks crap
yes that is so bad, they biased as f
they shouldn't show that, at least try harder cause makes them look bad and the fans feel bad too
warm helm
WTF WAS THAT TRANS
marsh pumice
yeh no idea
warm helm
Dogman has god mode and bronze mode no. In between
marsh pumice
dam this is a 3-1
little silo
Gg
trim shadow
1 down 1 more togo
balmy wolf
How bad does NYXL choke this time?
vale pond
took them long enough
balmy wolf
thoughts?
azure harbor
vale pond
who are they playing?
little silo
Boston
balmy wolf
NY has been 0-4 twice so far I believe
vale pond
oof
trim shadow
I@smell salt from dallas cord
balmy wolf
yea but it was back to back, in this stage, in this new role lock
dusk sphinx
Welp that was easy for the Reign
night tusk
https://twitter.com/6arks/status/1112576647813828608 I wish nickelodeon signed a deal with sideshow and bren
warm helm
It could be 3 expansion teams in top 6. Dope
dusk sphinx
Not London easy but still rather easy
little silo
Babybay?
balmy wolf
NYXL is like... number 6-8 now?
dusk sphinx
NYXL is mid tier at best atm
dusk sphinx
Looking only at Stage 4
warm helm
I really like how blizzard takes turns making heroes broken so that’s the metas not always the same
night tusk
Twitter
warm helm
I guess that’s their way of keeping it fresh
dusk sphinx
Cause obviously they were great at Goats
marsh pumice
so cute this asian girl, is she new on the staff?
balmy wolf
no
little silo
they have locked a 2nd seat so who knows what they are doing
balmy wolf
she's been there to be a translater for the chinese players
marsh pumice
oh ok
balmy wolf
same way how the korean dude translates for the korean players
balmy wolf
until he got memed on by IM37
warm helm
Dogman 😂😂😂
night tusk
warm helm
So toxic
marsh pumice
that guy that translates Korean is a character too, xD
night tusk
LUL
marsh pumice
this is funny
little silo
Omae ma wou
trim shadow
Time to bord the fire aero train
marsh pumice
dam we didn't saw
sterile fox
why is she being thrown in water
marsh pumice
entertainment
night tusk
because dallas lost
balmy wolf
cause kit kat rivalry weekend
azure harbor
muricans and their entertainment
light flint
What is this segway?
tawny sigil
thank you for the fan service i guess
light flint
Paid Actors!
night tusk
sterile fox
Bren vs Kitkat CEO widow 1v1
night tusk
new twitch emote plz
marsh pumice
golden boy where did he go?
dusk sphinx
Its good to see how they try to make the OWL something memorable
balmy wolf
he went to cast for fortnite
night tusk
he is here aswell
balmy wolf
he comes back to Overwatch here and again once and a while
warm helm
I peed next to goldenboy
balmy wolf
hot
marsh pumice
omg fortnite 
warm helm
At the after party during the homestand
azure harbor
fortnite
night tusk
he lives in new york so OWL decided to not use him everytime. so he got other oppertunity's aswell. I think it's best for both
marsh pumice
i mean yeh if the contract allowed him to do so, but i wouldn't cause i'm sure Blizzard didn't liked it
balmy wolf
Why would they be opposed to him casting other games
marsh pumice
hum exclusivity
night tusk
I guess boston will win this one Kappa
marsh pumice
and professionalism
little silo
uber what is that shirt
balmy wolf
I dont think this is a tom holland spiderman thing; these are contracts that enable them to work; like if he went to shit talk overwatch then yea thats a problem but he just kinda goes and when the big event happens he gets brought back like reinforce
dusk sphinx
Am I by the way the only one who thinks Space from the LAV looks a lot like the Voice actor of Lucio?
balmy wolf
Yea
warm helm
I feel like New York is hiding some god tier strat. Cause they never play pine and sbb
balmy wolf
Just cause they’re both of some vague hispanic descent
raw ermine
Yeah
marsh pumice
well im sure Epic only got him cause of OW
balmy wolf
Thats like saying hotba looks like profit
raw ermine
pine in playoffs
dusk sphinx
Pine is THE definition of an OTP though
night tusk
https://twitter.com/OGE_ow/status/1165396371731443712 if ATL have spot 6 london would be 7?
Twitter
balmy wolf
I mean yea? Cause you want ppl who have experience casting video games right? To cast said games?
warm helm
I mean pine plays mccree like reaper anyway. Very in your face playstyle
dusk sphinx
Yeah London shouldnt even be top 10 atm though
marsh pumice
and does he have the know-how to cast both games? or it's just entertainment, if so that's cool cause to be a real caster is hard on one game, imagine a football caster going to cast surf or so
dusk sphinx
Pine plays Mccree especially from a distance just hitting pop shots
If he doesnt get the Space to get those pop shots he's pretty much a dead weight if anything
night tusk
do people here still think mano deserved MVP this season ?
little silo
eh
night tusk
MVP to bench player
balmy wolf
Yea but super also had more resources; In terms of cost of a player to be effective, Mano was the most cost efficient
Like look at BenBest on Rein during goats meta
night tusk
c9?
balmy wolf
Ppl claim Nenne is more consistent than pine on his heroes but I've yet to see it; granted we haven't seen how much better or worse pine is this season cause the man never gets to play
little silo
I dont think its a player problem
balmy wolf
Like SBB; the few times we do see him, he's pretty bad
I love the guy btwl; was my favorite player but dude is not doing good rn
night tusk
boston fighting for the not worst team of the stage
warm helm
Yeah he was my fav too
I mean can you blame him? Didn’t get to play in owl really at all in stage 1
Prolly rusty you know
little silo
well timed
balmy wolf
Cause meta shift, regardless we see players who didn't get to play and are now showing their stuff
warm helm
Yeah but the hero pool favors them
Sbb wants to play tracer. She has no place in these metas
balmy wolf
kinda; but that's more on them being too limited
you can't expect to one or two trick and for that to work
Like Corey plays a multitude of things pretty adequately
it's not reasonable to go "Hey they should be able to only play those few heroes even if it doesn't work for them" for a team who invests money into them
warm helm
What’s sad is sbb actually got pretty good at sombra as soon as 2-2-2 got implemented and she fell out of meta 😂
little silo
Sbb was bad at sombra
warm helm
His sombra those last few games of stage 3 was rlly good
balmy wolf
from beginning against houston
to the end; it was nowhere near on someone like Danteh who I can say is a great sombra
little silo
not a Top 5 Sombra
warm helm
Yeah he was at first but at the end of the stage he was doing really good
little silo
not really
balmy wolf
He was adequate; good is stretching it here
west badger
Who did yall pick for map 1
warm helm
He was good. I was there at the homestand he was putting up insane numbers
marsh pumice
omg wow widow
west badger
yh
warm helm
But they were playing bottom tier teams
west badger
who u talkin bout?
balmy wolf
SBB hero pool is like Tracer, Widow, and I guess Sombra but he for some reason really doesn't want to do widow, his sombra won't cut it against top tier teams, and Tracer isn't meta and I wonder if she ever will again without a massive buff like additional 50 health, recall cool down reduction
west badger
Sombra isnt rlly that good anymore either
balmy wolf
she's not but I am very curious about how the semi's are gonna be cause sigma seems to be taking rein's spot and he's actually nutty
little silo
as long as its not double shield
sterile fox
dunno about rein’s spot
mental estuary
its gonna be double shield 4Head
balmy wolf
I'm expecting a lot of mei
sterile fox
i saw meko and choi play sigma
west badger
Yup mei and sym
warm helm
Sigma is really good on payload maps. But his shield up time is kinda bad on other map types
west badger
a lot of sigma i hope
balmy wolf
thats why you cycle with an orisa
mental estuary
i'm expecting sigma to be run with double snipers
so the shield can cover the snipers
or to counter double sniper
warm helm
40 minute games 😂
west badger
I think a lot of roadhog for sigma
mental estuary
pharah pickrate might drop a lot
warm helm
Sigma on payload is disgusting tho. Get cart control with one ult no one else can do that
mental estuary
he can c9 himself too, dont worry
west badger
yh but if a team isnt ready for take akm from volskaya today
balmy wolf
ppl have been saying it's either double shields or sigma zarya or dive
which personally I wouldn't mind
night tusk
who is axxiom ?
balmy wolf
he could but he doesn't have to
warm helm
Be like rogue again. 😂
west badger
I dont know about dive
balmy wolf
Dive because it's the only comp that really works against a Sigma comp
sterile fox
well dive counters sigma
balmy wolf
unless you wanna mirror
west badger
cuz baptiste is strong rn and he doesnt work well with dive
balmy wolf
I'm thinking hackfist dive
west badger
Maybe
balmy wolf
bap isn't strong atm; let me put it this way
any reasonable support duo can really work
mental estuary
fuck doomfist holy crap
west badger
True
balmy wolf
cause stage 4 has been basically any support
mental estuary
this character needs a lot of fixing
west badger
Support is in a rlly good spot
balmy wolf
everything in support is viable
except when double shields come out...
I worry about Zen's spot once double shield comes
sterile fox
bye zen
balmy wolf
cause dive wise discord is still strong but he really won't be getting much value unless he can actually hit targets which double shields make it hard
night tusk
did aimgod got punished intern or do we need to believe that Persia is better than Aimgod ?
warm helm
I like doomfist
west badger
Idk
warm helm
I mean with all the cc in the game rn if you can play around that you deserve a 4K
sterile fox
nyxl is throwing pepega
west badger
I think he was having issues with the team
night tusk
if NYXL is losing they can atleast say they are experimenting
night tusk
last time they lost 4-0 from charge they said that while just playing libero nenne
balmy wolf
When shock was experimenting with hunters they actually dumpster them, unlike NY.
west badger
Sombra hmm
west badger
Flow3r
sterile fox
holy shit flower mate
balmy wolf
flower is twitching a lot
warm helm
Remember when flower wipes us by himself in the World Cup 2 yrs ago
sterile fox
he trained a bit didn’t he
night tusk
last time he played he played heroes he do not play, now he is actually playing projectile
west badger
yup
balmy wolf
he got famous for playing widow in WC
night tusk
he reflected mei ult from rascal and zarya ult in one match vs kongdoo panthera
thats why he was invited for OWWC
west badger
He is playing well
warm helm
He was already revered as one the best projectile heroes in apex it’s just that peace had more viewership in many
Na* I hare autocorrect when I’m talking about games
tawny sigil
nyxl finally getting a win against the lowest ranked team
balmy wolf
lol
sterile fox
bro they playing titans tomorrow bro
tawny sigil
they gonna die
west badger
F in advance
tawny sigil
F
balmy wolf
Lets see if titans actually put up a fight against shock today
night tusk
I remember when I saw his amazing stall as genji vs almost 4/5 players and they were still able to push later on. (overtime fight) I hoped SBB and fl0w3r would play for OWWC with LH tank support (did not predicted mano) I was upset when I saw "nanohana" who tf was that but they later changed it to fl0w3r and when I saw that I was so happy lol
worn falcon
What fl0w3r is doing here? 🤔
west badger
by the way is anyone else in europe its 1 30 am but i wanna see Gladiators v Valiant
little silo
yeah
balmy wolf
gonna have to wait a while then
sterile fox
6:25
west badger
Yh tonight are such good games
night tusk
pine and yes
tawny sigil
the beams dude
little silo
first 2 games arent that good
night tusk
symmetra makes this game already kinda fun
sterile fox
the beams dude
night tusk
we had mickie aswell
west badger
yh but last 2
west badger
I hope we see zen
covert arrow
does rawkus still play
night tusk
houston is not playing anymore this season so ?
sterile fox
nah flower throwing i was right all along
balmy wolf
how small is that arena actually?
west badger
nm who needs zen jjonak moira
sterile fox
he played moira on stream recently and everyone memed him
“but jjonak you hate moira”
night tusk
sterile fox
oh it’s halftime isn’t it
west badger
Thats a good clip
sterile fox
that is a very good clip
warm helm
Lol I feel really bad for Boston fans
west badger
"he obviously doesn't play enough moira"
warm helm
Everybody just shuts on their team constantly
wintry kraken
@warm helm i feel bad for NYXL fans. because playoffs
west badger
Lol
west badger
Atl has been rlly fun to watch
west badger
yh
warm helm
Still my bois tho. And dafran is my boy too just not in owl sadly
west badger
I remember him playing on the stage for the first time and he goes torb
warm helm
Legendary. And it works. Even better
west badger
Hmmm i wonder who will get dunked
warm helm
YO DO YOU REMEMBER PRESEASON WHERE THEY DID NANO TORB HAMMER 😂😂😂
west badger
yh
sterile fox
how do they choose the dunked
sterile fox
epic pepega
west badger
flow3r very good climber
sterile fox
petition to talk flower into saving some puss for the rest of us
storm cloak
😱
sterile fox
f for libero
azure harbor
sterile fox
what the fuck just happened
warm helm
Who was that kid from South America last year in the World Cup that was going toe to toe with with some of the best tracers in the world
Got a couple kills 1v1 against soon
west badger
flower
sweet shell
Flower is south korea
trail lodge
Mano team sk mt btw
west badger
reverse sweep intensefies
tawny sigil
boston coming clutch with the reverse sweep potential energy again
Aproaching escape velocity!
balmy wolf
Ready for takeoff!
light flint
Where are they playing at?
west badger
wait who do i pick league picks
tawny sigil
easy 4k
west badger
colourhex
azure harbor
nice fight
azure harbor
trim shadow
Oh thta depressing
west badger
wait whay
light flint
Esport ready
west badger
liber0
lyric pivot
sterile fox
that was pepega
sterile fox
bruh
broken dagger
in OT he's always clutch.
balmy wolf
Yes let me turn around a losing fight but getting 1 kill and getting 100 shields.
broken dagger
fast, broken.
balmy wolf
Only lost because of the fist existing in the game.
balmy wolf
Everyone is better than boston
Expect dallas, thats a coin flip of a fight right there
broken dagger
i've been waiting for the Titans game.
for around a week.
Shock VS Titans is an actual match.
an actually good match.
mental estuary
It can be a roll @broken dagger
broken dagger
Shock's good, Titan's are good.
broken dagger
i'm just here to watch Bumber and Slime.
upper niche
There's a meme coming where Uber is wearing like 50 rings, I'm sure.
mental estuary
But it can be a roll
broken dagger
Titan's are going to roll.
balmy wolf
seems unlikely
tropic herald
Titans Shock is probably gonna be one sided
Shock is def #1
Titans are somewhere 3-5
balmy wolf
Shock hasn't drop a single match so far