#esports-discussion
trim shadow
hidden vault
@upper niche so we don't know why they paused the match?
tropic herald
Bc reign is popping
trim shadow
Heres the bracket
upper niche
@hidden vault All they're saying is "there's an issue with his mouse".
Yeah. So in a traditional Double Elimination bracket, if the Winner of Match 13 won, they would then play again.
Because that win knocks the upper bracket winner in to the losers bracket.
Otherwise you can have a situation where that Match 14 game, the loser only lost a single game, but loses the tournament.
proven saddle
@upper niche but DYN has +14 and reign +13
upper niche
@proven saddle Oh, the way they show it on the wbeiste is wronnnnng andyway.
ATL still h ave 2 games to play
dapper lantern
This montage
hidden vault
Just use a spare mouse god damn it
upper niche
TRhey sort by losses, not by wins.
willow moon
There's prob a reason why a spare wasn't used 
proven saddle
oh yeah, seoul has 2 match less than seoul
dapper lantern
bruh we just skipped to the 1v1
willow moon
They gonna do 1v1?
hidden vault
No good reason lmao
echo quest
Why is there a pause
willow moon
Pause for mouse 
willow moon
What the fuuuuuuuuuuck
trim shadow
dapper lantern
widowmaker leggings with socks and sandals
echo quest
Wdym by mouse
willow moon
LMAOOOOOOOOO
dapper lantern
Bruh
willow moon
This is wonderful
dapper lantern
this is going to be amazing
dreamy cave
this is big
willow moon
What a night
proven saddle
is a travesty?
vagrant niche
thanks Unkoe
proven saddle
is that what Sideshow said?
upper niche
Okay, this has gone on one hour. I'm getting lunch lol
willow moon
gfhf
echo quest
Seriously what happened?
proven saddle
you're missing the best part
dapper lantern
Unkoe’s mouse disconnected and won’t reconnect
willow moon
lmao Corey
dreamy cave
LOL THERE CHEATING FOR HIM
echo quest
I think it was Coma where it was delayed so long, the map cancelled lmao
His pc was broke
So they tried another pc and it had a problem too
willow moon
"Did you not have a childhood"
marsh panther
He's aiming too low, how has he not learned T_T
willow moon
Wtf comment is that
dapper lantern
Bren won, oh no
dreamy cave
finally a win
dapper lantern
we’ll never hear the end of this
glacial venture
BREN
marsh panther
There needs to be a Genji-off now where they just slap each other with pool noodles
willow moon
^^ lool
vagrant niche
Brenji confirmed top 500
willow moon
Widow-off with straws and paper balls
hidden vault
This break has been an hour?
willow moon
Yes
marsh panther
an hour break for a game that doesn't matter. Please just force forfeit
midnight sage
I don't understand why it is so long
upper niche
Ryu-waga-teki-no-pool-noodle!
midnight sage
How is there no other mouse
willow moon
No one does
dapper lantern
I just wanted to see Happy click heads
willow moon
Same
dapper lantern
and he clicked too hard on unkoe apparently
willow moon
Happy makes me happy
vagrant niche
@marsh panther BuT eVerYGaMe mAtTeRs
gaunt acorn
is it really still paused
dapper lantern
YES, we’re still here
willow moon
Yes
gaunt acorn
wtf
upper niche
I'd be blaming my mouse too if I was up against a widow like that.
willow moon
I've watched a whole episode of Mindhunters and it's still there
dapper lantern
We might be ready?????
balmy wolf
MIGHT BE READY
marsh panther
@upper niche Reminds me of an old League of Legends show match... One of the players died and was being interviewed while playing so they asked why he died.. "Lag" "Lag? You lagged on lan?" "Yyyep."
storm cloak
Im.shook they didnt flood us with ads
dreamy cave
bout time
dapper lantern
and the camera is moving
dreamy cave
SIKE
willow moon
YOOOOOO
dreamy cave
THERE GOING TO PAUSE
dapper lantern
I’m going to laugh so hard if we pause
willow moon
YOOOO
uneven wren
i just tuned in during the irl hanzo 1v1 and i am so confused as to what is happening
storm cloak
IS IR PAUSED?
dapper lantern
no, I think we’re good for real this time
marsh panther
Honestly Dallas better win this now
willow moon
tf is thst camera
storm cloak
I DONT WANNA OPEN TWITCH IF ITS FAKE
hidden vault
What
upper hawk
hidden vault
They filled mickie
dapper lantern
okay this is for real lmao
gaunt acorn
finally oh my god
dapper lantern
Mickie died first again so this is going like it did last time so far
gaunt acorn
it's mickie, what did you expect
upper hawk
dreamy cave
what if they act out the same until they get to where they ere b4
upper hawk
They have nothing to play for might as well throw these guys in
willow moon
oof Happy why
gaunt acorn
@dreamy cave owl roleplay 
dapper lantern
like everyone is tired now, they might just try to get this over with
marsh panther
I wonder how much they're getting paid
gaunt acorn
decay makes 300k
echo quest
Carpe 180k
willow moon
My own life ain't worth 50k lmao
upper hawk
slender lance
Does anyone know why the game was paused
gaunt acorn
mouse issue
gaunt acorn
yup
supple prism
mouse issue that looks like it made them mess up the map trying to fix it so they had to start a round over
upper hawk
Is legit strat
dapper lantern
so stupid
vagrant niche
rigged af
storm cloak
👀
supple prism
even the ref is like the fuck
dapper lantern
lmao the ref was like “...yikes”
trim shadow
Wait is the match on?
storm cloak
You've heard of dive
willow moon
Yes
supple prism
yea
storm cloak
Orisa hog
willow moon
Attack for Dallas is over even
trim shadow
Its not on the owl app anymore
storm cloak
LOL
willow moon
Hmm it's fine in the website
vagrant niche
Pause meta 
supple prism
the Dallas mouse stagger
storm cloak
If you throw off their widow's skill by not letting them warm up ez clap
willow moon
Yeah bye Dallas
supple prism
ok Happy
supple prism
our lord and savior Happy
dapper lantern
but he’s back
willow moon
It's over yo
proven saddle
cmonit's was a 5v6
upper hawk
Lmao chats going nuts
upper niche
Just play the match tomorrow
proven saddle
taimu killed shu at the begining of the fight and somehow dallas loose that fight
dapper lantern
FINALLY.
willow moon
Unkoe got his spotlight lmao
uneven wren
it's finally over
gaunt acorn
thank god it's over
willow moon
There should be t-shirts
trim shadow
I swear
storm cloak
Yes
willow moon
"I survived the great Unkoe pause of 2019"
trim shadow
That black tall giy
storm cloak
Or free tokens
trim shadow
Roots for every team
upper hawk
"Fans paid to wait" bahaha
storm cloak
Unkoe looked like he was gonna cry
storm cloak
I have work and gotta wake up at 5.30AM and I stayed for this
trim shadow
That has to be a paid fan
upper niche
Is the match over or just the pause
trim shadow
You rlly want me to go
willow moon
Ok I'm bailing. Night night!
storm cloak
Yes
trim shadow
All the way back to s1
upper hawk
i bought the only type of ticket you can buy and only allowed to sit behind the floor
storm cloak
yes
trim shadow
Stage 1
storm cloak
Yes
storm cloak
Yes
storm cloak
I want them all
dapper lantern
I’d get paid to cheer for teams, nothing wrong with that
trim shadow
Dont test me boy ill fucking do it
rugged yacht
5/5 predictions guys! Ya
trim shadow
Im@pulling out my@powerpoint right now
upper hawk
I would too. Like for Gladiators its only the Gladiators Frontline that were on the floor
some special group
storm cloak
@trim shadow good
dapper lantern
jesus, this was a day and a half
upper niche
Now now. This isn't unkoes fault.
storm cloak
I expect it when I wake up. 5.30AM tomorrow
dapper lantern
and nero still has to do the q and a
trim shadow
And probably a a mountain of other interviews
upper niche
But it was YOUR FUCKING MOUSE UNKOE.
upper niche
What's he using lol
upper hawk
Ouch
upper hawk
Unkoe killed watchpoint
trim shadow
upper niche
This gonna produce some serious memes.
So I missed it while I was out, how far did Fuel end up pushing?
And do we count Happys first attempt to his career stats? 😄
dapper lantern
the end
upper niche
wait, Fuel won?
dapper lantern
and then they didn't make it to the first checkpoint the second round
upper niche
ah
trim shadow
LmO
upper hawk
Pfff
What are the chances that today or next weekend is the last time we see Mickie in OWL
I get the whole being likeable fan favorite thing but how long is he gonna get paid to be dead weight
supple prism
If he pulls in more than he costs, why drop him
like Pine. Pulls in merchandise sales
vagrant niche
same with Geguri
they are just there to sell merch
once they don't make them enough money to justify their salary, they will kick the bucket
supple prism
or renegotiate
hidden vault
So cocco and chips do not have enough to justify their salary?
supple prism
who and who
hidden vault
That's why they got boosted from dallas?
upper niche
is there an easy way to get the match history other than parsing the json structure?
I mean I may have already written a tool to do 90% of the work there but still... heh
upper hawk
Makes sense
slender lance
Why has Dallas been so hesitant on using their envyus players this stage
balmy wolf
Mickie is so outclass thats theres no point to ever run him.
Expect in a rare backup sub
slender lance
He is
storm cloak
Awe
balmy wolf
He was so bad seagull became a better DVA in a few months then he did
slender lance
But harryhook and taimou have looked way better than akm and unkoe
slender lance
Also Dallas had taimou on main tank because cocoo was bad
hidden vault
they could have put xQc then
slender lance
He was off the team
storm cloak
Make him better
slender lance
Or banned
hidden vault
there alot of time they could have filled him
slender lance
Was mickie's brig not better than Zach's
And xqc was suspended a lot
And he was just removed off the team
So they chose taimou for maintank instead of cocoo
They would've used him if he wasn't suspended
upper niche
What did he get suspended for? It's not like a Dallas Fuel player to get suspended or fined heh.
slender lance
They never get fined or suspect
Suspended*
They're just good people
Never boosted, made fun of a fellow gay player, threw comp games or, said the f word that is offensive on stream
Never in their lives
trim shadow
there's alot more to the story then just he made a joke about muma
when muma has done far worse shit
visual glen
Never forget TriHard 7
upper niche
It just occurred to me that ATL could end up in 5th, not just 6th!
They would need to win by at least +5 across both games, because they lost to LAG last time they played, but still...
ie, 4-0 and 2-1 or better.
hidden vault
what did muma do?
upper niche
Oh come on, do you really think Dallas Fuel has a whole team which are 'OWL level'?
Sure they might have one or two players, but that's about it.
Oh crap, so what's Toronto and Washington's head-to-head Match and Map record? They ended up tied.
S2W1: TOR 3-1.
S4W1: WAS 3-1.
lol. They're dead tied.
Wait WTF... Toronto had 5 wins in Stage 1, and finished S1 in 4th... then only 3 wins for the rest of the entire season??
More accurately: They had a single 2-1 win against SHD in Stage 5, and were winless in stages 3 and 4. Ouch.
trim shadow
take into account stellar retired in stage 1
then asher in stage 2
so it was probably bishops coaching
i still think its fucked to fire on someones birthday
hidden vault
Stellar asked to come back before bishop was fired tho
Need to check the tweet dates
But if I rmb it should be like this
echo quest
Chengdu should get Silver3
Upgrade over Jiqiren and Ameng
Or Over
Best MT in China after Guxue
balmy wolf
jiqiren is not a bad tank at all, I bet next season he is gonna be the starter
echo quest
No means a bad tank, I’m just saying you can get a better tank
hidden vault
Ameng's ball is better then Jiqiren
Not sure about the pther 3 now since Ameng's rein improved
balmy wolf
Ameng literally isn't a good tank outside of ball.
Jiqiren was the MT for the miraculous youngsters which is a good chunk of the hunters players.
Ameng also literally can't play winston, it was so bad their off-tank had to play it.
echo quest
Over was the best MT in China after Guxue
Better then Jiqiren
Wdym?
Ameng can’t play winston at a contenders level and his rein is average
balmy wolf
I still argue the synergy between jiqiren with his old squadmates is better then the best MT currently.
echo quest
Considering his Tank partner on MY is a benchBoi
hidden vault
If Elsa played winston then what did Ameng play?
echo quest
Dva
hidden vault
Why didn't they sub jiqiren in then?
balmy wolf
Ehh I mean its kind of fucking waste that your actual MT player is dropped because of visa issues
And hasn't had synergy with his team because he was in china for almost 3 stages
hidden vault
Lateyoung?
hidden vault
What matvh was it...
echo quest
This was contenders
echo quest
He’s that dogshit at winston
balmy wolf
Yea its honestly bonkers why he got into the OWL
balmy wolf
Jiqiren has little to no synergy with hunters rn. It be like grabbing a new MT and playing him the next day.
Same thing happened with Gamsu actually.
He didn't play for like 2 games I think.
echo quest
@balmy wolf his rein was fine
His dva was above average too
Like it worked perfectly fine
balmy wolf
His orisa is pretty meh.
But rn his ball is almost like a throw pick against good teams.
balmy wolf
Gamsu didnt play from the start
geguri had to fill in as the MT
Gamsu was an emergency pickup
@hidden vault Jiqiren was stuck in china for about 2 stages. So ameng had to step up and play MT the whole time until jiqiren came into the US.
hidden vault
Oh wtf
balmy wolf
Visa issues are a real pain sometimes.
hidden vault
Gamsu played the 1st shanghai game against sparks
echo quest
He didn’t
balmy wolf
gamsu played on their 3rd match I believe
the match they won
against his old team funnily enough
balmy wolf
and throws that talent away apparently
balmy wolf
Kellex the only existing player on boston from S1
echo quest
Aimgod
balmy wolf
was he on the team last yr?
echo quest
Ye
balmy wolf
OH right Neko was their flex support
hidden vault
But he played the 2nd against Vancouver
Aimgod was since s1
But he join inbetween
Kellex is the only true orginal boston
The rest was traded or let go
karmic grotto
such a pussy
sullen berry
To be fair
This is a lot of catchup GZ's social media has gotten apart from their average updates
So not only do we have the biggest total map score vs Atlanta Stage 2
This is
The longest 4-0 broadcasted in the Blizzard Arena
2h 39m 50s VOD review Smile
nova turret
goats is gone 
balmy wolf
its been gone even before 2/2/2
just review the pause section
like the bren vs corey and the chess match
sullen berry
And the unscripted interviews with Emily Tang
Stage 3 Grand Finals with shanghai
and shock
That was about 15 minutes longer
And they played 7 maps total :V
sinful vale
ea
hidden vault
Only the last part
trail lodge
Dallas fuel haven't beat a top 8 team since Stage 1 week 2
Also happy popped the fuck off and thats all you need to know
trail lodge
Dallas also needed to have their attack reset because of an Isuue with one of their Pc's
sullen berry
so what will they capture in the replays
because it's gonna be cutoff early or they can only provide the second half of Dallas' attack run
night tusk
I wonder if he played well or worse with him. I know they still lost
I also saw that it got paused often
sullen berry
imagine a regular season match lasting almost as long as the stage 3 grand finals with 4 maps
limber pine
yeah it was bad
sullen berry
it was never unkoe's mouse to begin with, blizzard's game client went to shit
so I'm wondering what would have been left of the game capture footage
if they have any for it
fossil bear
Hi Sprite
sleek zephyr
What happened with the DF GC game yesterday? @sullen berry
limber pine
extremely long technical delays
vale pond
dallas probably got ass blasted
limber pine
i think it was like an hour?
sleek zephyr
Wtf
vale pond
mickie played?
limber pine
yup the last map
vale pond
how was he?
limber pine
okay
vale pond
better or worse than starters?
limber pine
It's really tough to say. I don't think he made much of a difference on the last map of the season over Note
sullen berry
@limber pine it was an hour, I watched it twice over to count how many bits i'm donating
sullen berry
they were paused
again
and they would resume but it would stop suddenly
that's when the fault was when players on the charge were stuck in spawn
the original pause was when unkoe couldn't move in game, techs came onstage and asked to change the mouse
probably where the bandwagon started
limber pine
the worst part is that the long pause came at the second half of the last map
where everybody knew Dallas was gonna get destroyed
Charge had finished with like a 3 minute time bank
limber pine
yeah
which is fine
Do the Valiant get in
they need one win against either SFS or LAG
sullen berry
considering how surprisingly worse off hunters are by map differential
can't say why not
sullen berry
13-15 is a stretch goal
vale pond
lag is probably their more likely win
sullen berry
I can see shock not having to put a lot of effort to avoid facing chengdu
and by facing chengdu
sullen berry
that's by the tiniest of margins after you factor who makes it out of play-ins
!standings
😦
so in the only competition that matters in the next 2 weeks
if atlanta moves up
vale pond
atlanta will not lose
sullen berry
then spitfire would drop into play-ins
vale pond
they're basically 6th
sullen berry
they're two matches
vale pond
its boston and dallas
sullen berry
fuel and dallas lul
vale pond
come the fuck on
sullen berry
boston doesn't exist
vale pond
dallas is arguably worse
atlanta needs to 4-0 dallas and 3-0 boston
for the magic map diff
mental estuary
probably gonna happen
vale pond
69 map wins is the ticket to grand finals
vale pond
yeah
mental estuary
im certain london wont go too far anyway
limber pine
lul
vale pond
replace masaa's keyboard
mental estuary
now its time for the power strat 4Head
sullen berry
GZC have a good track record of revenge wins
so i wouldn't snuff them out as a threat to spitfire if they have to challenge the playin teams
turn dogman into sickman
trail lodge
I don't see how Atlanta dont make top 6
Nah
The worse player that could get sick atm is Massa
Actually no pepeaga they aren't allowed to bring Kodak back
sullen berry
dps is fine, but they can't bank on anyone not preparing
sullen berry
has yes, backup tanks of 2018 season
trail lodge
And Funnyastro Backup MS
sullen berry
what exactly is philly's backup plan
vale pond
Carpe offtank
sullen berry
Chef Heidi on Orisa
"Please stay behind my barrier"
proceeds to plan philly's victory meal before they go to philly
hidden vault
also why did blase off tank instead of axxiom?
limber pine
He likely has the best Roadhog
hidden vault
dva?
limber pine
He predominantly played RH
his dva is probably better than rCk's RH in such a way that it's their best chance to win
however slim that is
hidden vault
doesn't rCk have some eye issues?
limber pine
I think that has something to do with it too yeah
although I don't recall seeing a source on that
slender lance
Axxiom also plays main tank
But I think rck did have an eye issue
But if not then rck is just shit at tank if their choosing blase over him
It could also be a Management thing
hidden vault
mouffin didn't even make it for team canada
slender lance
I agree
hidden vault
over note
karmic grotto
He did?
Also, Jayne just choose OWL player pure, because of last years synergy
Mouffin out classed note hard
Not even close
limber pine
he was in the top 12 but not the top 7
hidden vault
most likely but no prove
karmic grotto
That's why mouffin is back up
slender lance
There may have been more scrims we didn't see
hidden vault
unless the coaching team explains
limber pine
i mean, mouffin probably parleyed his canada scrims into a place on UA
slender lance
It could always be note's synergy with some of the members
karmic grotto
XQc is main tank and xqc has better synergy with mouffin than note
That's was very visible on scrims when they streamed it
limber pine
so it's moved him to a better place regardless if he plays for canada or not
limber pine
and
since we know Boston is going to have a whole new team next year anyway
(slightly /s)
he may move up
hidden vault
place on UA?
hidden vault
oh
limber pine
sorry I wasn't clear
hidden vault
sorry I didn't know the short form
slender lance
Note probably does more that mouffin doesn't would be my best guess
He might peel more
limber pine
Note is the Zenyatta killer
slender lance
Or is good at calling switches mid game
I didn't watch much of the off tank play so can someone tell me how nite was outplayed
Note*
hidden vault
will toronto reclaim stellar?
hidden vault
Im37
limber pine
lol
limber pine
Im37 might have been the worst pickup of the entire season
hidden vault
well I wonder why they didn't lay ashdr instead
unless he was already asking to retirement
slender lance
Alemo
I think he isn't a good pick up
We've barely seen him play
Im37 played more
He wasn't good but he played
limber pine
I think alemao doesn't play because of coaching decisions
im37 was signed midseason, has played, and Toronto signed players to replace him
slender lance
I think they should play aimgod and alemao over kelex and persia
limber pine
that's worse IMO
slender lance
Yeah
limber pine
Overall, I think you'll see alot more 12 man rosters in season 3, given that it'll be way harder to get new players mid season to their respective areas
no more Philly 7 man teams
hidden vault
2 two way lol
sleek zephyr
two way contracts are actually useful now
night tusk
Idk if you guys saw aero tweet
He pretty much explained what happend
And it was not a mouse issue
It’s kinda funny that dallas who might be the worst team, had a player who might be on the best team. And they released him for free.
willow moon
So what happened? I didn't see the tweet
limber pine
Twitter
trail lodge
It was a sign
To end the game there
To save Dallas the shame of being 4-0d agane
Also Boston is way worse than Dallas
Like
Way way worse
night tusk
Seems that some enjoyed the pause
willow moon
That's an interesting problem they faced. Poor Unkoe >:
night tusk
Also in the arena
willow moon
Also imagine being Dallas and having that technical problem in the middle of the match
Yeah the pause was awesome hahah
night tusk
I just say boston dallas and defiant are in the same tier low
trail lodge
They also had a power cut at their homestead 
night tusk
Lol
night tusk
I remember full chat copy pasta spam to fix the power haha
trail lodge
Boston need to release everyone but Chex Blasé and Aimgod
limber pine
they just need more players
it really bothers me they ran the whole season with only 2 dps
willow moon
¯_(ツ)_/¯
naive garden
willow moon
Yeah this is what I think too
pearl stratus
@limber pine You can make an argument they tried for a third, and got blocked.
It got buried in the drama but Boston claims they made attempts to pick up Krystal from GZC, but GZC said not interested for him.
raw ermine
isn't krystal on HZS?
limber pine
@pearl stratus I'm against them starting the season with 2
but yeah, getting VAL-blocked didn't help
trim shadow
i wonder if hz and boston are working on something for krystal as we speak
since no one know will know what will happen cause signings dont start till mid october
sinful rune
willow moon
Why did Boston want Krystal
balmy wolf
Who apparently flakes hard on his team at the pro scene
willow moon
Weird to think someone is willing to put up with such headache
karmic grotto
well
limber pine
Everybody gets a second chance
karmic grotto
if you can teach him manners
limber pine
*Everybody
karmic grotto
some people need guidance
balmy wolf
Or a good smack upside the head
pearl stratus
Also I wonder if its a chicken or the egg situation.
He wanted to get traded since he wasn't getting played
They blocked it
He flaked.
Or did he flake and then they worked to block the trade?
trim shadow
krystal is skilled
but as with any highlight
athlete*
theyre cocky or have shitty personalities
trim shadow
from a viewship wise
that division is gonna have insane fans
hangzhou chengdu shanghai seoul and guangzhou
night tusk
i'm pretty sure seoul and china can fill stages. but who knows. I to be fair did not expected dallas and new york to be that big than it was
ofcourse new york was the finals so alot of people came from other places
balmy wolf
Just wondering
trim shadow
i believe most of the non american teams excluding london will have full stadiums
balmy wolf
but like
trim shadow
almost every match
trim shadow
it depends on which chineese you ask
some like koreans
some dont
i think out of mix races
chineese and korean are the more intergratted
and then theres chineese american
night tusk
I might maybe visit a london or paris homegame. Paris is actually reachable with the car. but there are cheap trips to london here aswell
trim shadow
im curious as to what london and Paris will chose as stadiums
i dont remember any big paris stadiums outside of the csgo venues
and then you have ESL in london
night tusk
if paris still have the kind of crowd that OWWC france had. it will be hyped for sure
someone mentioned that vancouver can be big aswell. like what they did to announce the players was already big
I believe I heard it on ESPN or on a oversight episode
trim shadow
well first paris has to litterally
rebuild
top to bottom
i would keep sdb and soon and build around them
and maybe bring in a 3rd younger dps
limber pine
see i don't even think they should keep sbd
I thought danye looked decent in limited playtime
trim shadow
well i would take sdb over soon cause his pharah and genji are legendary
night tusk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_wGmDG99C4 this video is kinda good that explains the new format but there is one kinda hater who has no fate on the league lol
trim shadow
and soon looks to be washed
idk what eu contenders look like
but since lulsish and ellivote are gone
they should go out and get fusions...yea yea fusions is trash but
limber pine
asking
trim shadow
he was on a mix speaking roster
trim shadow
asking is dps tho?
night tusk
Paris lost a assistant coach or something and their headcoach retired aswell. I don't think that we should blame players to quickly. Rascal is a good example (rascal dallas vs rascal shock) I think paris for sure need to update their staff
night tusk
retired is the wrong word
trim shadow
apperant everyone wants spectral togo to paris
night tusk
headcoach went to dallas as "tank coach" lmao it did help didnt it xd
trim shadow
if i was the paris gm i would start with coaches yea
then ill evaluate my players
who was consistent who wasnt
that eliminates benbest and Nico
night tusk
OWWC can show us something aswell. who knew that fusions would be in OWL before OWWC. (sadly boston does not do that great to make this a good story :P)
trim shadow
mouffin is american right
limber pine
canadian
night tusk
I believe davin would have playtime aswell and I heard this guy name alot even I don't watch contenders
trim shadow
right right he was in canadian try outs
5 teams season are completely over right?
paris houston washington florida and toronot?
and paris and houston needs the most rework
trim shadow
toronto just needs better coaches
boston has 2 games lfet
well actually
yakpung
gotta goo
trim shadow
oh fuck right yankpung was benched
night tusk
I like hunters but I think LAV will take it
trim shadow
honestly...since i dont need gladiators to lose for atlanta to get the 6th chengdu will be the 12th
but then again valiant needs just a win right
limber pine
yes
night tusk
if Valiant somehow are in the playins. its crazy how they maked it from their bad start in stage 1
limber pine
1 win, because their map differential is much better than hunters
night tusk
if somehow valiant wins the finals btw
trim shadow
and lag is overrated
night tusk
and you bet money for them wining the finals around end stage 1. you would earn so much money
would be sad to see valiant lose both games on their first home game. + get out of playins
night tusk
I do expect them to be the first who losses one atleast
Dallas and ATL both won their matches
But hope not 2 losses. I actually want to see valiant make it. I do think their changes and now wins they make that they deserve it and I wonder if hunters would give us a show on the playins
But does gladiators or shock wins matter? I don’t see shock sandbagging but I can see gladiators trying to get a better seed
trim shadow
they cant move up
since they lost to hangzhou
hangzhou is locked in the 4th
so if gladiators are playing for anything
theyre playing to avoid new york
/dropping
dammit wheres the bracket
so the 5th gets hangzhou
so the glads are playing for hangzhou to avoid san fran
echo quest
Wonder how good seoul would have been if EscA hadn’t retired
trim shadow
fissure and miro*
night tusk
who knows xd, some make him populair but he did not great at the end of Lunatic Hai. but he peformed again really well on PUBG so some say he is just a good esports player
trim shadow
hol up xepher used to be on seoul?
echo quest
Yes
trim shadow
small world huh
jagged crater
if esca still played? not much better if he stayed on dps tbh
banking solely on morale , which is hard to say
formal fulcrum
Why do the outlaws have such a huge fanbase? I dont get it
jagged crater
texas hard
echo quest
JAKE
echo quest
HOUSTON ROCKET fans too
jagged crater
not jake, he wasnt even popular before OWL
formal fulcrum
My theory was its because of Jake/Muma being personalities
jagged crater
he had his stint with team USA but i dont remember him being a particularly popular player
it's just texas being a big sports fan state
and people wanting to get on the esports
night tusk
on the video I shared someone mentioned "will Houston have the same fans if Jake is not on the team? people will suddenly buy jake justice jerseys if the signed to another team because esports is supporting players/stars more than teams"
echo quest
Rocket fans are delusional too
formal fulcrum
Is that why people also like Dallas despite it being garbage
jagged crater
dallas fuel on the otherhand, clearly fans of the players
people liked fuel for the players
it had seagull and xqc in s1
and the old envy guys
night tusk
mickie 
formal fulcrum
Yeah after they were gone the team just fell apart
xQc can be toxic sometimes but hes a really smart player
jagged crater
i remember looking at social media numbers, dallas was far and away #1 in terms of popularity
night tusk
than ATL take over
trim shadow
scus me what? atlanta isnt toxic
night tusk
no
trim shadow
well reign fans arent but
formal fulcrum
I'm doing a fantasy football draft and my friend's team name is "the Dallas Cowboys 2"
trim shadow
dallas trashboys*
jagged crater
im not a reign fan but i like erster 😉
and im ok with dogman
his trashtalk is kinda entertaining
night tusk
idk what fan I am 😦 I used to support seoul but they kinda boring now. I do like everyteam kinda
formal fulcrum
I've been an excelsior/spitfire fan forever because of the color scheme lulw
trim shadow
uk what fuck it let atlanta take the 6th and watch us upset san fran
jagged crater
think that's also a reason Houston has decent amoutn of fans
their color scheme is good
formal fulcrum
Yeah the skins are amazing
echo quest
Nah
jagged crater
for season 1 standards, it was great by comparison
dallas fuel colors sucked by comparison
trim shadow
remember when atlanta took san fran to a map 5 in goats?
jagged crater
you know who i miss? The loud shock fan
formal fulcrum
Spitfire is probably my favorite team. The colors are so nice together and the logo is prob one of the best
trim shadow
yeaaaa
jagged crater
dude was so loud in the arena, cheering for shock despite being one of the worst teams
now they become the best team in OWL and the dude is nowhere to be heard 😦
formal fulcrum
I remember
formal fulcrum
Remember when Dragons went 0-40
trim shadow
when has atlanta gone 2-5
dont even take about stage 3
thats the hardest schedule ever constructed
formal fulcrum
I remember when dragons was only popular because they were bad and then they got Geguri
trim shadow
dont worry shanghai is back to s1 form at this rate
jagged crater
huge shift in power rankings is sign of how much power meta shifts have in the strength of a team
it's actually crazy
like it can literally a turn a team from trash to tier 1
in just one patch
night tusk
well boston still trash xd
jagged crater
you mean expectedly
night tusk
people only knew seoul nyxl houston dallas and london
trim shadow
dude
jagged crater
atlanta last stage had a hard schedule
formal fulcrum
I think 2/2/2 is so much more entertaining to watch
formal fulcrum
Yeah it's a good comp
jagged crater
the new goats
echo quest
Holy shit Fuel had a brutal schedule this stage
echo quest
Every team they played is a playoff team
vale pond
still pepega level team
trim shadow
they didnt even make the games close last i checked
jagged crater
outlaws and fuel, 35% winrate 😭
formal fulcrum
That's a yikes
pearl stratus
Outlaws at least had the "right" variables for their losses.
I'm not saying its acceptable, but if you look at their situation it makes a LOT more sense.
Dallas is just a pile of shit.
35% win rate while running on a negative budget is actually pretty impressive.
jagged crater
wonder if fuel is gonna go thru a full revamp
coaches and players
realistcally who is gonna stay
biggest surprise? Kick everyone, keep mickie as bench warmer 😉
pearl stratus
I'm not saying they weren't shit.
I'm saying they had more of a legitimate reason for being shit.
When you have no money, no time, no income, you can't really do much to fix your team.
Whereas you get teams like Dallas that has 9 coaches and can't beat contenders teams in scrims.
@jagged crater Dallas has talented players. They just have a garbage coaching staff that doesn't utilize them well.
I bet if they had real coaches they wouldn't need to change a single member.
Even Zach.
balmy wolf
Just move up the academy roster and fire everyone else lol
balmy wolf
Well numlocked has a good history in contenders
Seeing that he just won his 2nd contenders championship
wait
night tusk
I just saw some tweets of him, I know he want to grind
night tusk
But it looked like he believed he had a chance as starter in UK Owwc lol
night tusk
Over fusions?
night tusk
I disagree lol
trail lodge
When has Fusions been good
night tusk
But the trials must have answered
trail lodge
Hes a playmaker rein that dosen't make the plays
So he just feeds
And dies
Fusions coming in with the 100hp shield 
night tusk
I can see some players struggle with the new tank meta. but that includes aswell for players like gesture
night tusk
only rein 1 trick I know is benbest xd
balmy wolf
He won a contenders championship mostly playing winston and rein
night tusk
"the best eu dps"
balmy wolf
lel
trail lodge
And they had Kyb who is a god proj