all worse than sombra meta
#esports-discussion
balmy wolf
Rascal is such a good player so glad he is finnaly on a good team
minor flame
shes so niche of a pick now
balmy wolf
EMP and hack suck to play against but they're a necessary evil against some heroes
dusk sphinx
That did at least require some investmemt
nova wadi
Sombra actually helped a lot of supports focus more on positioning tbh
dusk sphinx
Sombra was just EMP and counter EMP with most other ults being worthless
minor flame
welcome to this meta
balmy wolf
That being said, I played against a team the other day that literally could not win a single fight without EMP, even using other ultimates, and it was hilarious.
minor flame
where everyone counter ults
dreamy cave
the sombra meta only lasted in the end of stage 2 to all of stage 3 and that was it
dusk sphinx
This meta most ults count though
karmic grotto
echo quest
Noice
nova wadi
Hard
minor flame
Call of Duty news
dusk sphinx
Glad the OWL is so popular
karmic grotto
That does cod news but he gave away this fact
echo quest
I wonder how teams make money then
nova wadi
Does that amount include merch ?
dusk sphinx
The game is healthier than it has ever been
velvet scarab
what did i just witness
dreamy cave
i really dont care who wins this match. but i wanna see a good game
echo quest
Buy ins are 20 mill
echo quest
Sparkle?
dusk sphinx
Although they still have to fix one crucial thing
minor flame
bruh
nova wadi
Sp9rkle ❤️❤️❤️
dusk sphinx
HANZO FUCKING ARROW HITBOX FUCK THAT SHIY
echo quest
Even below FU
feral wing
greyy dude!
dreamy cave
because doom and sombra got the least amount of play, next to torb and symm
minor flame
the main reason why the worst metas come to be
nova wadi
Fusion academy in Korean lomegalull
velvet scarab
after you see it 10 million times
minor flame
is because of snipers
dusk sphinx
People never like meta in any game
minor flame
Snipers are the worst part of the game
nova wadi
Meh
dusk sphinx
Widow is fine
karmic grotto
Seems like CoD will be in same format as OWL
dusk sphinx
Cause she's actually rather hard to play
nova wadi
I just don’t know why they have to give both snipers so much mobility
dusk sphinx
Hanzo is just Crosshair placement and no other skill required
karmic grotto
How does a Sniper even have grapple?
nova wadi
I’m fine with one shots cause I don’t walk in a straight line but come on bro
karmic grotto
How does a bare hand man climbs a wall
minor flame
in terms of shitty concepts
nova wadi
Hanzo has lunge + wall climb and widow has a 8 cd grapple
dusk sphinx
Hanzo requires 1% the skill of Widow
minor flame
Hanzo also has shield break
nova wadi
?
minor flame
thats exaggerated asf
dreamy cave
its overwatch its not rocket science
tawny sigil
its overwatch its not rocket league
nova wadi
He does
karmic grotto
????
minor flame
he does
echo quest
Tf yes he does
nova wadi
Also widow is not hard to just shoot people who jump lmfao
dreamy cave
if ur question is why a bare handed man can climb a wall i guess u dont need to ask how rien hitting the cound can make bunch of ppl fall to the ground and lay there
nova wadi
90% of widow gameplay is waiting for a player to fuck up as in walking in a straight line jump or peek and 10% are flicks
karmic grotto
Well his Hammer is heavy
echo quest
I guess guys like Eqo and Profit randomly get 3ks with hanzo
tawny sigil
COMIC SANS
karmic grotto
A real life grapple kinda exists
dusk sphinx
Hanzo requires literally only good crosshair placement
karmic grotto
But not yet, we'll executed
minor flame
that is the biggest fucking 4head take
dusk sphinx
His arrow hitbox does the rest
minor flame
ive ever seen
karmic grotto
Well*
nova wadi
So does widow just place the crosshairs well
minor flame
^^^
echo quest
So does widow
dreamy cave
wido requires aim
dusk sphinx
Well Widow doesn't hit shots she shouldnt hit at least, Hanzo does
minor flame
wtf do you mean
echo quest
Wdym bruh
dusk sphinx
Let me send you a pic
nova wadi
I’m pretty sure it was proven arrow hit boxes weren’t even that big
Inb4 he shows a pic of something that has to do with ping
minor flame
if you think arrow hit boxes are that big that he doesnt require skill your are reaching hard
dreamy cave
if u were here yesterday, when that headshot on phara on havana. im pretty sure u would think otherwise..
minor flame
what am i looking at
echo quest
Tf is this
nova wadi
It bent
dreamy cave
okay? but is that a headshot? what was his hp at?
minor flame
also why tf you taking photos iwth your phone
nova wadi
However I don’t see a pic like this being amazing proof
echo quest
LCS is stealing viewers from OWL doood
dusk sphinx
Tell me now this is fair
echo quest
Literally no clue what the pic is showing
minor flame
yeah
minor flame
yeah i dont see that as the undeniable proof that hanzo hitbox is broken
nova wadi
Especially Ashe her head
minor flame
omg blizzard exposed
nova wadi
Is big
dusk sphinx
How is it not? The arrow literally misses
nova wadi
Dude it’s a pic u took with a damn phone lmfao
velvet scarab
compared to other dps
nova wadi
How are we supposed to judge off this
dusk sphinx
Doesn't even hit the hat
dreamy cave
u need a clearer picture
dusk sphinx
Let alone the head
minor flame
I think you are reaching hard if you think Hanzo doesnt require skill
in this current state of the game
hes the same as widow
nova wadi
I don’t think his E requires skill by being able to headshot
karmic grotto
I think he plays Hanzo every time and gets no kills
dusk sphinx
I can assure you he's not
nova wadi
It’s my biggest complaint about him other than mobility
Widow is just up her grapple CD to 10 or 12
dusk sphinx
Oh I don't play much Hanzo, but when I do, I end with crazy results by just spamming corners
While with Widow I actually have to find good angles
karmic grotto
minor flame
??
dusk sphinx
And then the difference of aim isn't even included
dreamy cave
hanzo requires skill. its not as if he insta kills everyone he comes accross. yeah as a projectile its easier to land headshots. but if u just rely on spamming and not aiming ur not gonna get much
dusk sphinx
Let alone Storm Arrow BS
minor flame
spamming isnt gonna get you in pro play
if you think hanzo doesnt require skill
then play hanzo and get into OWL
nova wadi
How is proj easier to hit headshots with
dusk sphinx
Maybe not pro play, but certainly more casual play it does
balmy wolf
Hanzo has more breathing room for a headshot to happen
dusk sphinx
Also he has hardly any good counters due to Storm Arrow
minor flame
so does Widow???
dreamy cave
are u sure its not just that ur playing ppl who are just good at playing hanzo? because if u think a hero is broken because u keep losing to them then it might be that person playing skill and not the hero.
nova wadi
Some would say widow has the same cause of her grapple
balmy wolf
When they rework him they overtuned somehow by giving him lunge
karmic grotto
Lunge? What is that word
nova wadi
And gave storm headshot
minor flame
its like jumping forward
nova wadi
Lunge is his jump
karmic grotto
I see
dusk sphinx
Widows SMG isn't the same as Storm arrows at all you have to be trolling
karmic grotto
Why is that a bad ability?
karmic grotto
Fucking people on subreddit complaining
balmy wolf
On a 5 sec cool down no less
nova wadi
It’s just that they give snipers too much ability
dreamy cave
scatter was broken because it could 1 shot
karmic grotto
For me lunge is most of the time useless
nova wadi
Scatter > storm ngl
nova wadi
Flankers could fight Hanzo more reliably with scatter
dreamy cave
storm arrow requires aim though
nova wadi
Now they get fucked by storm
dreamy cave
acatter u just aim at ppls feet
karmic grotto
Storm arrow in a random direction: gets multiple headshots
tropic herald
Scatter was dumb
trim shadow
Scatter u just
nova wadi
Dodge
dusk sphinx
He has a much higher chance hitting some BS shot on a Genji or Tracer than Widow and his storm arrows just melts dive tanks
trim shadow
Throw into a room and get 6 kills
dreamy cave
if they gave hanzo scater and strom, then i would admit he was broken
trim shadow
Made hanamura very stupid
nova wadi
Last time someone said Winston countered widow he was trolling
dreamy cave
thats 6 man kill potential
trim shadow
Hide in a row all of a sudden it blow sup in arrows
nova wadi
So I honestly can’t take u serious
echo quest
He said winston counters widow 
trim shadow
Scatter and storm would make him best dos
minor flame
even Storm Arrow is hard to get a hit with on a person on your face
trim shadow
Dps
dusk sphinx
Storm Arrow is hard to hit 
nova wadi
Idk but Hanzo is actually fucking amazing when it comes to his kit
tropic herald
Yeah scatter for the tanks and storm for the... tanks
nova wadi
Wall hack super fast dps can one shot has jump can wallclimb
dusk sphinx
It's harder to miss than it is to hit them
dreamy cave
storm arrow is hard to hit if ur shooting at a dps with a skinny body or a mobile hero
minor flame
have you tried killing a genji or tracer on your face just moving rapidly around you with ease
its hard to do that
even with storm arrow
nova wadi
Genji is easy when he’s in the air
dusk sphinx
If I face a Dva in a 1v1 I would have trouble not Shooting headshots with Hanzo
nova wadi
Tracer gets a lot of pressure by storm arrow but can win
tropic herald
Storm arrow on dive dps isn’t as easy but it’s doable save them storms for a Winston or Dva
nova wadi
But when she uses her blinks up she’s fuck against storm
dreamy cave
because u have to aim in the middle of her body and u have to land all ur shots
bc d.va is a tank
minor flame
you wanna know why Widow is broken?
dusk sphinx
I have. I've had so many shots on Tracers that I just shot at random
dusk sphinx
On Genji it's harder cause you know, vertical mobility
minor flame
and go to her team
nova wadi
Beanie literally up it to 10 or 12 and she’d have such a harder time
trim shadow
If u even wanna call widow broken
tropic herald
Shed also be hot garbage without mobility
nova wadi
No vertical mobility is easier to hit
dusk sphinx
Hanzo has more mobility than Widow tbh
trim shadow
I guess its her 100% charge up
minor flame
????
short mobility yeah sure
long ranged
nope
Widow grapple can reach you so far
dusk sphinx
Widows grapple has a rediculous cooldown
nova wadi
8 is fucking short lol
minor flame
its pretty short for what its worth
tropic herald
It’s mid length
dusk sphinx
Hanzo can spam his movement abilities at half that time
drowsy fulcrum
paris still does better than Titans lmaooooo
nova wadi
Remember when grapple was 12?
nova wadi
She became so much worse
dusk sphinx
It's pretty much Genjis Dash but slower
nova wadi
Just by lowering her mobility
karmic grotto
Hanzo is now officially Doomfist
dreamy cave
hanzo is a mid ranged sniper. he needs more movement
minor flame
hell nah dude
dreamy cave
hes going to be in the fight
minor flame
Grapple reaches way farther than dash
nova wadi
^
tropic herald
Grapple is hella long
feral wing
Paris and washington are gonna do well next season
tropic herald
And you can fling yourself
karmic grotto
dreamy cave
dash is good because if ur in a fight. close to it as hanzo. u need a dash more so than a grapple
minor flame
what?
nova wadi
?
minor flame
were talking about widow
feral wing
paris just needs better coordination and a better main tank, washington just need to polish their play
minor flame
and what she has
tropic herald
There is so many EU main tanks too
minor flame
and how a grapple on 8 secs is very short
dusk sphinx
Not really, if you slingshot yourself yeah, but grapple is still not a spamable ability
dusk sphinx
Like Hanzos Air jump is
minor flame
wtf do you mean spammable ability when Hanzos "ability" is 5 seconds of a short distance
its not gonna get you to fucking valhalla like grapple
feral wing
hes pretty good
dusk sphinx
Again, grapple is slow to use
minor flame
not really bro
dusk sphinx
And leaves Widow unable to shoot while using it
feral wing
soon and shadowburn are extremely good but they might want to drop nico or danye and pick up someone like onigod or other eu dps talent to back them up, they dont need all of those 4 dps players
dusk sphinx
Cant say the same about Hanzo
nova wadi
That’s why you fling yourself so you can shoot
tropic herald
Bruh what if Widow has riptide on her gun
minor flame
Widow has so much momentum on her grapple
Hanzo is so easy to hit
when using climb
or lunge
tropic herald
Widow grappling is an easy shot tbh
minor flame
not easier than a hanzo
nova wadi
Everything is easy to hit in the air
tropic herald
As long as they stay facing fowards
dusk sphinx
Im not sure what Hanzos you're facing but most Hanzos don't climb in the open
dreamy cave
widow goes in a straight line and can stop her grapple to just keep the momentum or stop early
minor flame
you literally commented about Hanzos movement abilities
Hanzos movement ability is climbing and a lunge that goes 3 meters on a 5 sec cd
thats not gonna save you more than a grapply
dusk sphinx
It does, the jump has much more utility than the grapple
tropic herald
Lunge is horizontal only grapple is vertical and horizontal, grapple wins
dusk sphinx
It allows for a quick disengage, Unlike grapple that takes at least 1 entire second to get off
tropic herald
Of 3 meters
minor flame
if youre getting dove a Lunge wont do shit
dusk sphinx
There's a reason Hanzo is played more in OWL than Widow
tropic herald
Lunge is good for not getting the intial damage that’s it
minor flame
yeah caues its for shield break
dusk sphinx
This Stage
dreamy cave
honzo is a mid ranged sniper. hes usually closer in a fight than a wido is. and so his dash ability is more useful to him. if u want to go farther with ur dash as hanzo u climb and then dash.
dusk sphinx
So point stands. Hanzo is broken. That's it.
tropic herald
That’s why Hanzo gets played
nova wadi
Broken
dreamy cave
hanzo isnt broken
nova wadi
Omegalul
tropic herald
Hanzo isn’t broken
dusk sphinx
Have you even looked at my picture?
minor flame
your point is that hanzo takes 1% the skill of widow
dreamy cave
u know, he reminds me of the "sombra is broken" guy
minor flame
its not the fucking end of all undeniable proof that hanzos arrow hitbox is the same as a fucking cryo block
youre not gonna succeed just because hanzo arrow has a supposedly big hitbox
nova wadi
The picture is literally some of the worst proof you could’ve provided
tropic herald
Hanzo arrow hitbox isn’t even that big
nova wadi
Worse would be something from r/COW
minor flame
its like one of those fucking smash leaks ofa new character
tropic herald
Dva gun shoots bigger projectiles than Hanzo
echo quest
Hanzo’s arrow has a small as hit box, heads are too bigs
Mercy’s gun has a bigger hit box g
nova wadi
Zheng
minor flame
Zheng
tropic herald
Idk even know anymore
dusk sphinx
Then again, why does a Zen ball or Widow shot never bent like that?
tropic herald
My auotocorrect is Pepega
dreamy cave
hanzo cant be broken. he does in fact require skill. and his mobility is perfect for a mid ranged sniper. its not his dash gets him as far as ashes shotgun. he does nice consistant damage and is good for shield break and spam. his kit is fine
dusk sphinx
And why does a Hanzo arrow?
nova wadi
Cause widow is hitscan LMFAO
nova wadi
? ? ?
drowsy fulcrum
gods with hair is cursed
minor flame
bro just because it bends doesnt mean hanzo is the most broken ass character that requires no skill
if thats the case then there shouldnt be a dfiference between a bad hanzo or good hanzo
tropic herald
It bends bc it would look weird for a arrow to stick out of air by the heroes head
Zen balls aren’t long enough to stick out
dusk sphinx
tropic herald
And they disappear after impact
dusk sphinx
dreamy cave
if u think a arrow bends like that 100% of the time, then honzo would never ever miss
tropic herald
Bruh moment
vernal kite
So many pros 
minor flame
dude you face palm like your shitty smash 4 character leak of a photo is the undeniable proof that hanzos arrow bends all the time to hit your opponent as long as you hit around 2 meters around them
minor flame
making it so undeniable that hanzo requires absolutely no skill
and of course can be played by anyone at such a high level
cause he requires no skill to aim
tropic herald
Han hanzo please switch
dusk sphinx
It means that Hanzo is really easy to make work without really any skill
drowsy fulcrum
can I put my 2 cents in as a professional games dev
Hanzo's arrow doesn't actually bend but giving it that visual effect is fucking horrendous and should be changed
dusk sphinx
Like Mercy, difference is that Hanzo has much more impact than Mercy
vernal kite
No
minor flame
if you had a hanzo that didnt really have any skill
he would only hit storm arrows and miss all his other ones
tropic herald
StRode show me a game where you win with 60% crit on Hanzo
Show me
He’s easy right?
drowsy fulcrum
StRode show me a game where you win with 60% crit on Hanzo
vernal kite
Lmao
dreamy cave
lol
dusk sphinx
dreamy cave
just because the arrow bent, dosnt mean it always bends.
im sorry that happened to u. but get over it
tropic herald
According to his logic every arrow is heat seeking head shots
dreamy cave
the picture he sent didnt even show if that was ahead or body shot at that.
drowsy fulcrum
the arrow bends because it's intended to line up with the server. The server saw a crit, the player firing saw a crit so your client goes "yeah it has to have hit the head". Due to lazy programming that's how it appears ingame.
minor flame
You also deny that Widow grapple on 8 seconds is infinitely better than what hanzo has
Also fail to account for ping
minor flame
No ite not
tropic herald
Or just make the grapple shorter
vernal kite
Um it is
dreamy cave
the visual of the arrow could also just not be a good reprisentaton of what actually happended as its all data. its like saying "omg that d.va bomb was sooo far away"
drowsy fulcrum
nEKO WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT ORB
vernal kite
Its not real life sniper camping in one spot lol
drowsy fulcrum
btw the hanzo guy has disappeared lmao
drowsy fulcrum
@tropic herald https://i.imgur.com/auB9GYf.png
tropic herald
I wasn’t but now I might
tropic herald
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?
tropic herald
me or him?
tropic herald
Okay
dusk sphinx
Oh it was a reference to Ashes voice line when she throws her dyna
dreamy cave
"fire in the whole"?
drowsy fulcrum
the kit kat logo in america is weird
dusk sphinx
"Smoke em outta there"
drowsy fulcrum
@dreamy cave like this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c9/KitKat_logo.svg/1200px-KitKat_logo.svg.png
dreamy cave
ohh
hasty flare
I have 314 owl tokens what skin do i buy (I have genji: toronto,sf,spark,fuel rein: sf zen:nyxl sf ) who do i buy
dreamy cave
but what i tell u to buy and dont make a decision for yourself
get all spark outfits
drowsy fulcrum
sf 🤢
tropic herald
Guangzhou Widow is kinda clean
vernal kite
Lmao logix so salty that saya is farming him
dreamy cave
damn there speeeeeding
trim shadow
Something special since apperantly he has the eye for talent skill
trim shadow
Fusions is a good rein
trail lodge
No
trim shadow
I believe its a coaching issues
trail lodge
Hes a worse a Bumper
trim shadow
Not a player issue
trail lodge
Theres nothing good about Fusions
echo quest
Bumper is an elite tank lmao
trail lodge
People overrate him so much because of OWWC
trim shadow
Ppl just call bumper bad cause hes hyper aggresive and sometimes feed
trail lodge
Bumper individually is not elite on rein
echo quest
So that’s why He led all reins in stats
trim shadow
Charging rein out of position
trail lodge
Because his team was too busy healing hin
trail lodge
Anyway
Fusions is shit
Never has been good
In OWWC a good majority of his shatters were kybs brig bashes
And also I'm going back to this but everyone says super and Bumper have the same playmaker playstyle
trail lodge
Meaning that when I say Fusions is a worse Bumper hes a playmaker playstyle Rein that dosent make the plays
echo quest
No shit he’s worse than bumper, bumper was the second best rein in the league
trail lodge
No he wasn't
He was on the 2nd best team
Bumper was by far the weakest player on Titans
It took a while but people started to execute the practice of if you dont let Bumper make the plays he hard feeds
That's why hes not elite
Because theres a simple way to beat him it's just the execution that's hard
Compare it to an actually God tank like Super or Mano and theres nothing you can do to shut them down
echo quest
Super is rein one trick tf
balmy wolf
Who was it that said Bumper plays like a plat but can get away with it because his team gives him so many resources?
If you put Bumper on a team that didn't pocket him as hard as Titans do he'd be a C-tier main tank at best.
trail lodge
Sideshow
tropic herald
i think he could be b at most
trail lodge
Like bumper has looked ass since 2-2-2 has been in
tawny sigil
everyone looks ass since 2-2-2 is in... exept washington
upper niche
It's almost like the playoffs are gonna be a different game.
Which, TBH... is why I had been saying they should have intro'd RQ in stage 3 or left it out of 2019 altogether.
trim shadow
@tawny sigil get the fuck outta here
tawny sigil
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!
upper niche
1 person on cart? risk AF
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
upper niche
fuck this interview process is painful to watch.
dreamy cave
rookie mistake my guy
little silo
Moon Face got PotM very nice
night tusk
Hmm
If mickie will not get any playtime
He did not have it the entire season right?
balmy wolf
nope
night tusk
Would be so weird if they save him for 2020 than
little silo
if Dallas are down 3-0 they might bring him out
Or they might play him since this match really doesnt matter to Dallas
night tusk
This aged well https://twitter.com/hastr0/status/1086420489344565253?s=20
Twitter
balmy wolf
lollll
midnight sage
lol Closer
upper niche
oh look, another mirror match :/
also, colours in this matchup are terribly shit, can barely tell the difference in teams.
Dunno why they don't let one team use a bold colour rather than insisting on one team being the 'away' team when the colours end up being close.
trim shadow
Shut up
little silo
amazing what replacing the tankline did to them
dapper lantern
akm looks like he has the suds
night tusk
Akm lol
echo quest
LAG mic checks are the funniest shit ever
echo quest
Mic check 1,2,3... oh Fuck u
trim shadow
Holy shit dallas is getting rolled on@hollywood
marsh panther
I'm new to the OWL. Earlier I saw part of Florida vs Toronto. Why do those 2 teams have such bad records? Are they really bad teams, or have they been competitive at all?
gaunt acorn
@marsh panther they've been 'really bad teams' for most of the season
florida started performing alright by stage 4 (the current stage), but it was too little too late
toronto was alright in stage 1, then fell off hard
marsh panther
Thanks
balmy flower
what terrible hair
trim shadow
holy
midnight sage
Why hasn't Mickie been around?
tropic herald
He kinda sucks
rugged yacht
I've gotten all of the predictions for this match right 
And Mickie hasn't played since last season so no one can say he's bad
rugged yacht
Taimou....
upper niche
ahah "We're off Disney XD, we can show this one"
midnight sage
That was terrible
rugged yacht
Then u haven't seen the last few games this stage 🙃
upper niche
WTF is this?
dapper lantern
God, I can watch Happy’s POV all day
upper niche
Happy is the only one without ult, so game paused
gaunt acorn
@dapper lantern Thanks to the 
Twitch 
2019 All-Access Pass!
rugged yacht
I'm getting used to the Dallas dps being in the top left
proven saddle
Ads are getting smarter
upper niche
I was gonna buy AAP until they changed to this bloody League Picks UI.
dapper lantern
I really don’t like most of the teams lmao, the pass would be useful for like 3 teams out of 20 for me
dapper lantern
yeah, I would watch charge stuff for sure
proven saddle
honeslty i think most of chat only wants all access pass because of the 200 tokens
midnight sage
Mickie XD
rugged yacht
I love Mickie
proven saddle
i need that mickie attitude when's the end of every semester
dapper lantern
I’m considering next year
gaunt acorn
this year, yeah, the 200 tokens basically paid for themselves
rugged yacht
Mickie: we're fucked, but... we're not as fucked(?)
dapper lantern
Bruh
proven saddle
WTF
upper niche
WTF, 'mouse issues'?
proven saddle
it's good for me as long as they count pause time as mickie's playtime
dapper lantern
closer wants to go home
upper niche
Hell, I want to go too, I'm hungry as hell, I want lunch already.
rugged yacht
I just want to get results for my final prediction
upper niche
but I can't update stats data until the match is over lol
man I wanna hear this discussion
dapper lantern
they’re talking in match chat
proven saddle
there's no one in the stage lul
dapper lantern
I wanted to see what they said lmao
upper niche
oh All Access lets you hear it?
dapper lantern
no, the text match chat
proven saddle
they made a BBQ and they didn't iinvited BQB? shame
rugged yacht
I feel this was a Koreans only party
umbral bone
when will the mvp be announced
rugged yacht
I Thot we all knew it was happy
umbral bone
and like if they announce it will there be a skin and when
proven saddle
NAISU
rugged yacht
Oh that's after the playoffs @umbral bone
upper niche
I would expect it to be before the finals.
vagrant niche
Ok, what the hell is going on with Rascal?
proven saddle
this is so uncomfortable but is better than watching dallas tbh
vagrant niche
i mean Unkoe
midnight sage
Well, this is fun
storm cloak
Why is paused?
trim shadow
HOW FUCKING LONG DOES IT TAKE TO FIX A MOUSE
supple prism
passed through another dimension
upper niche
This is why they have two mice/one spare on hand at all times. How can he go 4 matches and only just find out there's an issue?
proven saddle
the real question is: don't they have have backup equipment?
supple prism
its a test like on Community
opal spruce
that might be his backup
trim shadow
Those blizzard staff cuts looking like they hurt
upper niche
Yes. Every player has two sets of their keyboard, mouse, bungee, SSD and mouse mat stored.
willow moon
Oof I haven't been able to watch a single game this week
What even happened??
upper niche
They're stored in road cases and held by the league, and have to come direct from the manufacturer.
balmy flower
!schedule
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
balmy flower
isnt it over?
willow moon
Map 4
balmy flower
why the big pause
upper niche
it just occurred to me... are Spitfire the only team which the team is named after an object, not an idea?
willow moon
Spitfire skin is being presented
proven saddle
Imagine if (when) Shock wins grand final and we get a DJ lucio skin
upper niche
eg - Storm, Shock, Eternal, Fuel - they're all conceptual.
balmy flower
fuel is an object
upper niche
Fuel is abstract
balmy flower
no
willow moon
A gladiator is a thing 
balmy flower
Noun
fuel (countable and uncountable, plural fuels)
Substance consumed to provide energy through combustion, or through chemical or nuclear reaction. quotations ▼
Substance that provides nourishment for a living organism; food.
(figuratively) Something that stimulates, encourages or maintains an action.
dragons
willow moon
^
upper niche
Yeah, Gladiator might be another... Titans I kinda see the same way, it's conceptual
balmy flower
yeah dragon is also a noun
supple prism
outlaws
willow moon
[Spark technically
upper niche
Dragon, yeah, that one works.
supple prism
titans
upper niche
But yeah, most of them are concept and abstractions.
trim shadow
Last regular season@game in the blizz arena
proven saddle
Valiant?
trim shadow
Can we get a F
willow moon
Idk we just talked about a lot that ain't lol
trim shadow
And it ended in a shit show
upper niche
@proven saddle Use it as a noun :p
willow moon
Ah yeah hunters
supple prism
hunters
rugged yacht
Longest tech difficulty ever
proven saddle
i know, but imagine a valkirye like valiant skin
dapper lantern
This is getting insane now
supple prism
excelsior
willow moon
Excelsior ain't lmao
proven saddle
more wait time, more tokens
supple prism
the weapon?
opal spruce
valiant would be pharah i would think
upper niche
This technical issue has gone on longer than the old 5-match format 2CP 😄
willow moon
It's a weapon?
tropic herald
Wow 3 4-0s
dapper lantern
Yes
upper niche
@trim shadow I dunno, Dallas took out rage on a mouse or something?
proven saddle
just play with a trackpad
storm cloak
Do the mouse's have to come straight from the manufacturer because they don't want them to alter it?
rugged yacht
I'm cheering dragons and shock for playoffs
upper niche
@proven saddle lol that needs to be a AllStars game next season. Trackpad Widow.
proven saddle
lol
gaunt acorn
this is so dumb
upper niche
@storm cloak Yeah pretty much. A lot of mice these days can store macros etc too.
willow moon
lmao
proven saddle
finaly the bridowmaker is going to take over the league
dreamy cave
LOL GAME BROKE
willow moon
I think if the mouse ain't the way the player likes, it can be qualified as a disadvantage?
upper niche
Am I gonna get banned for naming the pointer device used on some notebooks?
gaunt acorn
so dumb so dumb so dumb
willow moon
lol OW on touchpad
dreamy cave
i went to piss n came back n this aint fixed yet
dapper lantern
get this man a PS4 controller
upper niche
haha
willow moon
Get a mouse from the crowd yo
storm cloak
Cant loose if the game is paused
upper niche
Rule 5.7.1. If your mouse can't be fixed in four minutes, you get to finish the match on a PS4 controller.
willow moon
lol
storm cloak
@willow moon I think thays against rules
willow moon
@storm cloak And I think I'm kidding
gaunt acorn
zach is browsing reddit
storm cloak
Like everything has to be carefully kept so nothing is put in the mouse I guess
Reeee
upper niche
@gaunt acorn Alt-tab. Rendering device lost.
trim shadow
Zach looking for strats on reddit lul
storm cloak
But honestly just go to Walmart buy a damn mouse
dapper lantern
oge nap time
willow moon
🐟
trim shadow
Whos mouse broke again?
gaunt acorn
dapper lantern
CLOSER LMAO
willow moon
Experience tranquility
upper niche
Everyone has forgotten that there's 60 seconds left on the clock and GZC have 5 ults with Happy on Widow at 83% 😄
trim shadow
Twitch chat is probably bashing blizzard
upper niche
Why not? I would.
marsh panther
This is so embarrassing. How can a mouse issue cause this much delay?
rugged yacht
They have 3 sets of all the players equipment and they don't have a backup mouse
upper niche
Can you imagine stopping a Football match - ANY format of football - because a player broke a stud in a shoe?
trim shadow
Bind His aim to the keyboard
dapper lantern
muma’s in the chat
upper niche
That's what this is like.
proven saddle
20 minutes, by now
rugged yacht
This issue might be worse than we thot
gaunt acorn
marsh panther
Oh, I figured it out. When they said mouse issue, it's really a mouse. One of the players has a mouse controlling him like Remy in Ratattouille
The mouse must've died
storm cloak
So
willow moon
lol
storm cloak
This meme doesn't make sense 100%
dapper lantern
the crowd
supple prism
nice
dapper lantern
jesus
rugged yacht
Any1 else getting video issues?
storm cloak
Wait
upper niche
How far have Dallas pushed the payload?
proven saddle
storm cloak
I cant post pictures?
upper niche
Did it get to the first corner yeah?
gaunt acorn
@rugged yacht you're literally missing nothing
@storm cloak link them -- you can't upload
willow moon
It's really ridiculous to not have backup mouses
rugged yacht
No I meant like glitches @gaunt acorn
upper niche
They're supposed to have a backup. I'd bet the issue is drivers, not the mouse itself.
marsh panther
Is the audio on the stream pitch shifting for anyone else
proven saddle
me when i didn't make a power point presentation so i pretend that the data show doesn't work
marsh panther
I used to be a professional esports league, until I took a mouse issue to the knee
upper niche
This has actually been going on for 36 minutes lol.
willow moon
Lmao Schwag
proven saddle
@marsh panther only with the music
storm cloak
Reeeee
upper niche
The issues started at 11:44am my time, it's 12:18pm now.
dapper lantern
you can’t lose the match if you never unpause the game
storm cloak
👀
rugged yacht
So how many times did hotba die?
gaunt acorn
wtf i hate overwatch league now
proven saddle
rugged yacht
Vs rio this game
willow moon
AYEEEEE
dapper lantern
HEY YO
upper niche
haha
willow moon
Restart
dapper lantern
we back
rugged yacht
Well fuck
upper niche
RESTART??! NOOOO
dapper lantern
Well
gaunt acorn
what a joke
dapper lantern
....
gilded peak
Wait, what happened for this reset earlier?
autumn briar
omg
trim shadow
Holy fuck
dreamy cave
BRuh
supple prism
900.00m
dapper lantern
HAHA
dreamy cave
marsh panther
Real question. Does having a mouse or not actually change the Fuel's performance? :^]
dapper lantern
OGE MAD
trim shadow
Nice way to send the blizz arena out for its last regular season gamep
rugged yacht
I'm gonna swim in these points
upper niche
Even his teammates have had enough now lol
dreamy cave
yo i would be so sad tbh
willow moon
xDDD
dreamy cave
IMAGINE HAVING YOUR LOSS STALLED ON STAGE
trim shadow
Better then a game reset
proven saddle
can you do this?
modest karma
did they restart?
dapper lantern
The match, yes
proven saddle
i thinks so
willow moon
Yes
dreamy cave
hes done
supple prism
Nero is not allowed to nap
upper niche
This map result literally makes no difference at all to GZC. No matter the score they will be 9th.
proven saddle
"hey don't sleep over your mouse"
willow moon
Mickie ❤
upper niche
3-1, they're +2. 4-0, they're +4. PHI are -3 and SEO are +14.
rugged yacht
@willow moon retweet
marsh panther
So which team are you all fans of and why?
mental estuary
My tokens
willow moon
Gladiators because S4 taught me how to aim when I was a wee n00b gurl
opal spruce
Dallas, live in dallas
upper niche
@marsh panther LDN, LAV and PHI, because I'm an Aussie and we don't have a default team to support 😄
mental estuary
Are being brought by this dallas
dapper lantern
this is going to beat the power outage at Dallas Homestand at this point
upper niche
was that the weekend there was a snowstorm or something?
balmy wolf
no
opal spruce
snowstorm in dallas LUL
upper niche
or am I thinking of PAX Unplugged in Philly?
rugged yacht
Dallas fuel because Mickie, obviously, and ride or die for home team
upper niche
@opal spruce Yeah fair call actually.
proven saddle
i guess there's time, lets make a rank of your fave teams https://tiermaker.com/create/overwatch-league-teams-power-ranking
trim shadow
Snowstorm in boston lul
supple prism
and now for the first on field interview
gilded peak
Wow, so empty
willow moon
The crowd is feckin dead
willow moon
Unko is feckin DEEEAD
willow moon
LMAO
trim shadow
Twitter
upper niche
This is literally making me wait around to watch the conclusion lol
willow moon
Why are they interviewing and not playing?
upper niche
I'm bloody starving and want to go get lunch but can't... not... watch!
dapper lantern
we need to break shit more often
upper niche
@willow moon Because Unkoe broke his mouse? 😄
willow moon
Wait the mouse is STILL broken?????
gilded peak
and how much are they charging people to attend this event?
upper niche
@gilded peak Like $20 or something?
proven saddle
willow moon
I thought it was fixed when Havana reappeared
gilded peak
No Danny, so don't think they can
proven saddle
my fav team
upper niche
Blizzard Arena is a pretty small venue.
midnight sage
Just grab a mouse and let's go
gilded peak
$20? Oh, thats not bad I guess
midnight sage
Not like the win or loss matters
willow moon
@proven saddle Hey you move my boys Guardians and Shock up a bit!
gilded peak
But should be cheaper if the stadium is dead
upper niche
Most TV studios are acutally really small. They use special tricks to make it look like therre's a large audience - like never showing the walls for example.
gaunt acorn
what a mess of a day
gilded peak
All these breaks is killing me
midnight sage
Yeah, I'm out
gaunt acorn
gilded peak
Just do 1v1 already to kill the time
raw estuary
Another AD break
dapper lantern
this is somehow getting better as time goes on
proven saddle
@willow moon i like a lot how the play but they are way too cocky
rugged yacht
So owl 2020 plans any1 else hyped?
gilded peak
I really hope next season won't be riddled with ads
willow moon
No it's getting cringier
trim shadow
storm cloak
Can they have a 1v1 or something?
proven saddle
@dapper lantern Kinda the same way like we enjoy all stars event
willow moon
I wasn't here when his mouse broke so...
How did it break?
dapper lantern
I love the all star mess
proven saddle
that's the thing, maybe is because they aren't really pressured at this point
upper niche
47 minutes. Can we reach 1 hour?
willow moon
Yes we can
dapper lantern
god I hope so
gaunt acorn
ANY SLEEPERS? 
upper niche
How long did GZC have in timebacnk, like 2:33 was it?
rugged yacht
More points? Yes plz
willow moon
I left the stream on and went to the cinema. Today I'm getting the big bucks
upper niche
So this match has gone on at least 53 minutes?
trim shadow
Twitter
dapper lantern
Lmao
willow moon
LMAO Charge
proven saddle
WTF
upper niche
ROFL, Postshow. "Nup, we're calling it".
willow moon
^^^
trim shadow
THEY ENDED THE GAME KMAO
proven saddle
pucket cannot hold the laugh
trim shadow
SKSKSKSKS I CANT BREATHE
upper niche
No. The games not over
dapper lantern
This is perfect
trim shadow
Note give unkoe ur fucking mouse
rugged yacht
27/1 happy
vagrant niche
JUST FINISH IT!!! UNKOE YOU ARE GOING TO BE A MEME NOW
dapper lantern
it’s not over, they just brought preshow people out
willow moon
Unkoe is so ashamed tho
dapper lantern
it will resume as soon as they get it fixed
proven saddle
happy already won the player of the match even if there's still 30 seconds
upper niche
If it turns out Unkoe is using some obscure brand of mouse you can gaurantee there's gonna be some new rule introduced... or change in sponsorship heh
Be funny as if it were drivers... or Windows Update 😄
upper niche
Oh, it'll be drivers, gaurantee it.
vagrant niche
THEY are going to close the arena and they are still going to be there having the game 4
upper niche
It'll either be drivers or somet kind of antivirus bullshit chewing cycles.
like for me right now my keyboard backbuffer is like 30 seconds.
trim shadow
I cant imagine how the dallas bench must look right now
storm cloak
How do we know its drivers?
upper niche
Somebody get these men snacks! We need snacks!
upper niche
@storm cloak We don't. But how often do you have issues with two identical mice after them being fine for 3 matches?
storm cloak
Or do they
echo quest
Wait wtf happened?
storm cloak
Never
upper niche
Happy has had enough Coke for the team the way hes playing Widow.
willow moon
lol
proven saddle
masaa talks so funny
willow moon
You need sugar to wake up after that feckin pause
rugged yacht
Was any1 watching how many times Rio died?
hidden vault
Wait the match is paused cause unkoe broke his mouse?
proven saddle
i hope that it doesnt sound racist
or something but i really like the finland accent
upper niche
@hidden vault I mean at this point we're just adding creative things to make it entertaining.
willow moon
"creative"
upper niche
We're making upt hat he broke it... but hey, maybe he did
abstract vector
"I Feel Good Hein"
willow moon
tbh big F to the OWL crew for pulling content out of their arses
upper niche
PS: Fuck this "PAC/ATL get 1/2 seed bulllllllshit".
upper niche
So Bizzard haven't clarified whether if you get in to the GF from the lower bracket whether you win twice
storm cloak
Or anything OW related
willow moon
They probably considered it
upper niche
cos that's usually the way double elimination tournaments work.
willow moon
It wasn't done for a reason prob
upper niche
That if you win from the lower bracket you have to win again.
proven saddle
how seoul is lower than Reign?
upper niche
Map Diff.