like...supports tanks are gonna be key if gzc vs atlata happens
#esports-discussion
trim shadow
sure nero and happy can carry but rio doesnt hold his weight
hotba pops off sometimes
and then you have shu and the other guy who are fairly quiet
trim shadow
litterally just laid out atlanta schedule
they have washington boston dallas
the only problem is dealing with corey's widow
upper niche
ATL have WAS, LDN, DAL, BOS still to come.
trim shadow
and stratus
tropic herald
The meta will also wildly change probably again before postseason though
upper hawk
Dallas 
trim shadow
is the map diff and maybe win from washington
upper niche
So basing it on 'today', the ridiculous way they rank players on teh website - it's just absurd. Because they look at losses, not wins.
trim shadow
im shaking in my fuckign boots about tommorows game
balmy wolf
I expect ATL to collapse in the play ins
trim shadow
like im really nervous how nlaeer will dance with corey
tropic herald
ATL kinda looks like Philly
upper niche
I have ATL winning 3 out of those 4 matches - WAS, DAL and BOS.
tropic herald
From last year
trim shadow
this washington match will show how atlanta will do in play ins
oh right london..fucking london
reeee
echo quest
If Atlanta wins against Washington than LAV is out right?
upper niche
But yeah, that's based on rankings. WAS look incredible.
tropic herald
If ATL beats WAS or LDN they have a solid chance
upper niche
No.
balmy wolf
I wouldn't exactly put justice at the top of the pack
upper hawk
Honestly theres one reason i dont trust ATL and it rhymes with shmaybybay
trim shadow
lav is out if chengdu goes 2-0 this weekend
upper niche
LAV is all down to how CDH do. Forget anyone else.
VAL need 14 wins on the board, that's the goal.
tropic herald
Justice is Top 4 currently
trim shadow
lav has to pray chengdu doesnt fuck san fran
chengdu can fuck houston easily but its san fran
if chengdu goes 1-1 they still have a shot
tropic herald
Probably only 2nd to SFS
trim shadow
also lav has to win there matches this weekend
balmy wolf
Well LA is kind of done for, they face glads and san fran in the homestand
echo quest
I doubt LAV get in
upper niche
I have an assumption that CDH will beat HOU. What VAL need is one of those two GLA or SFS games to go their way OR HOU to beat CDH. CDH losing to HOU alone will do it, if VAL beat BOS.
upper hawk
Idk for this stage i feel teams are going to hold strats back. Especially the ones more solidified in a playoff spot
balmy wolf
You aint winning against san fran
tropic herald
LAV needs a miracle to get in
echo quest
They have a guaranteed loss to the Shock
upper hawk
So i dont expect full efforts from every team
echo quest
Probably glads as well
upper niche
Literally the only thing VAL need is for HOU to beat CDH.
trim shadow
chengdu is currently sitting at 12-14 -8 map diff
echo quest
That’s not happing
echo quest
Against Glads and Shock
trim shadow
and chengdu loses to either houston or san fran
echo quest
Ez
trim shadow
no thats in week 5 for this week la plays boston
upper hawk
Valiant are gonna have to lose that one
upper niche
Yep. Basically LAV will get in on map diff if all they can do is get 1 win more than CDH.
upper hawk
upper hawk
echo quest
Two best teams in the league imo
trim shadow
also seoul plays shanghai and philly so this makes shit even more confusing
upper niche
HOU just need to come good like they did a lil while ago.
trim shadow
houston is eliminated
upper niche
yes
upper hawk
If the gladiators can play consistent then i agree. They have one of the best DPS pairs and one of the best healing pairs there are
upper niche
I mean in terms of the CDH vs LAV h2h
upper hawk
But they just take maps off sometimes
trim shadow
its a damn shame valiant might get beat in there own homestand
first time a home team goes 0-2 at home
upper niche
VAL could also concievably knock out PHI, but it's unlikely. VAL would need 2 wins to do that, and PHI to lose all their remaining games - which i expect
echo quest
Bqb lost mayhem that series
trim shadow
philly has to drop against seoul
echo quest
Fat finger at the worst time
tropic herald
I mean VAL went 0-7 in LA too so it’s nothing new
trim shadow
i dont think philly is guranteed
trim shadow
shanghai at this rate will continue to fall
so chengdu is probably slapping there knee right now
upper niche
Best possible map diff: SEO: 22. ATL: 24. GZC: 4. SHD: 10. PHI: -1. CDH: 0. VAL: 11.
trim shadow
its possible shanghai falls out of play ins if chengdu goes 2-0 with val winning as well
upper niche
Basically, 12th place has a 'Worst possible wins' of 12.
upper hawk
Bruh the OWL site triggers me with their stat keeping
upper niche
If you don't have 12 series wins, you can't make it.
upper hawk
Can they friggin actually order the standings by wins
Theyve had NYXL above VAN for idk how long now.
Its a 3 win difference at this point 
trim shadow
van is above nyxl for me
upper niche
The rules are clear: placings are determined by Wins.
echo quest
Even if chengdu loses to Houston, I don’t see LAV beating to glads or NYXL
upper hawk
Bruh 
upper niche
THe way they order it on the website is idiotic.
trim shadow
in stage 3 placing was determined by map diff
upper hawk
Maybe my app is fked
trim shadow
now with crunch time
echo quest
Not nyxl
trim shadow
its determined by wins
upper niche
It is irrelevant that one team has played less matches than another in the standings.
trim shadow
so this weekend valaint has to beat boston
theres no losing or there eliminated
same with chengdu
chengdu has togo 1-1 or 2-0 to stay at 12th
upper niche
So SEO have won this one.
echo quest
Ye
upper niche
it's hilarious the way it works out like that, a draw when you're 2-0 down heh. Hell, even the inability to get 1 tick on point 1.
echo quest
Wdym?
upper niche
@echo quest If you are on map 3 and you are 2-0 down, and you don't get 1 tick on point A offence, the best you can do is draw the map when you play on defence - you can't win.
Therefore, the best you can achieve for that match is 2-1.
Therefore, you can not win the match.
mental python
Wtf happened to Shanghai lol
upper niche
Seoul had already beaten Shanhai 3 minutes ago.
echo quest
Feelsbad but it’s Shanghai fault for playing like shit
whole mulch
@mental python 2-2-2 happened
trim shadow
oh shit zipchair gaming
balmy wolf
Not subbing diem in happened
whole mulch
no more rolling washed up goats teams with 4 dps
trim shadow
diem is still fixing his posture lul
echo quest
Younjin
trim shadow
if seoul gets the 4-0 shanghai is fucked
mental python
at least Fleta finally got some playtime
whole mulch
Wait did seoul win yet
trim shadow
cause with the rest of everyones schedule below them...theyre gonna lose
whole mulch
wasnt watchin
trim shadow
atlanta will go 7-0
chengdu can finish the stage with 1-1 this weekend
and valiant beats boston and takes a map off gladiators
trim shadow
the dragons have fallen
balmy wolf
Dragons are just not subbing in their better players
whole mulch
I'm pretty sure they have reasons
balmy wolf
dragons do have flexibility, its dding and diem who have the big pools
dding literally can play any projectile dps
diem can play any hitscan
but yet you played youngjin on doom the whole time
mental python
All hail Fleta 🛐
trim shadow
I still dont trust bqb as his partner
upper niche
So if London win on Sunday, they pretty much don't have to play another game for three weeks - their next match would be on 2019-09-06.
idle beacon
sullen berry
after Dallas, GZ will get a stage 4 break while rivalry weekend is on Smile
upper niche
Everyone else that would make the top 6 plays next week in the KitKat weekend.
sullen berry
which is grand
because if Valiant smash
they could knock chengdu off #12
but that's about it, chengdu can only move up one spot and play NYXL a second time
(depends if they seed like reg season playoffs during the play-ins)
upper niche
If LAV beat GLA or SFS and CDH dont beat SFS, LAV are in.
assuming CDH beat HOU and LAV beat BOS
If HOU beat CDH and LAV beat BOS (or win any one of their three matches), LAV are in.
sullen berry
3-1 would be an improvement against GZ, in all honesty
sullen berry
if they wait until Sunday to finally realise they have nothing to lose
mickie and the envy bench boys might actually pop off for the fans
upper niche
It's okay. Custa has been practicing Doomfist. We could see something special.
In fact I've seen him play Ashe too and I don't want to be against that team.
sullen berry
I need another IDDDQ moment where the skeleton subs RISE to the occasion
I would be very concerned if custa's doomfist means something with their support
upper niche
You know if HZS lost to GLA and SHD, they wont make top 6, and SEO will.
sullen berry
that would be
upper niche
In fact if that happens, SEO get a longer break than LDN!
upper niche
Wasn't there a Russian player Boston had that they dropped?
trim shadow
Boston has dropped alot@of@people
upper niche
Including an owner?
balmy wolf
Not an owner.
They dropped players and staff.
Their biggest lost was probably crusty.
NRG probs drop a fuck load of money to get crusty
balmy wolf
Tru, guess shock was willing to see how crusty would do
Made the shock franchise a team to be feared
Flame said he wanted crusty, but their org offered crusty a salary so small it made boston players look rich
trim shadow
Bostons biggest lost was striker
balmy wolf
I think it was crusty
There was no way boston could've gotten a 10-0 without his coaching, even if wins were mostly map 5's
Then in stage 4 they kicked the bucket
upper niche
oh. fuck. off. Australia is ineligible from League Picks, that's BS.
balmy wolf
when you get a 2am dm from Jayne 
hidden vault
Asking for meth 
supple prism
What does he want? An actual coach?
sleek zephyr
Adora is such a bad genji 🤡
upper niche
Wait, why are Washington Justice coming to MESO?
tawny sigil
whats MESO
minor flame
man imagine 222 putting you on tank jail
thats probably worse than brig jail when you play as dva
tawny sigil
imagine 222 making you the best team in the league but your chance is already gone.... or vice versa
upper niche
@tawny sigil Melbourne e-Sports Open. It's in two weeks time, Contenders final is being held there as well as a number of other games.
tawny sigil
what is WJ being there relevant?
karmic grotto
well lmao, this is kinda unusual
Am reviewing some Titan vod vs Fusion, on Busan Meka Base
Death of SMS at one point by Reaper could have been avoided by positioning/ and staying on position, secondly, Haksal ecountered Carpe, but Haksal didn't say that Carpe was on top?
Then Carpe killed SMS, then ulted
Do OWL players sometimes have communication problems?
karmic grotto
Watching it further
Tunnelvision by SMS
What I see, they focus so much what's in front of them, that they don't take less than a sec the time to peak their surroundings
Both Haksal and SMS completely missed the wall made by EQO to hide Reaper on their left side
Wall was literally there
Could have been avoided, but since it's an OWL match, you can't always focus on little things
@balmy wolf amazing, seems like even OWL Zaryas do this: taking in space in a positioning they shouldn't be instead of being near the main tank
Literally the focus fire on the off tank becuz it was there for no reason
I hope SeoMinSoo learned from this
slender lance
I think it may have just been him trying to make himself effective since they were running orisa zarya
I could be wrong but that's what I saw it as
karmic grotto
Bruh,
balmy wolf
i haven't been too involved in owl strats and such lately due to it being a weird ass bumfuck
so i cant say for sure
slender lance
That's what the Titans have always done
Lost a player and still won the fight
The have the highest win rate after getting loosing a player
Maybe that's their strat
Someone feeds and then they clutch it
karmic grotto
Enemy team wasting their cooldowns on a single hero:
Titans: It's free real estate now
karmic grotto
I am actually learning things SMS could have done better, as I would have done better too. Watching someone else making a mistake creates an opportunity for you to learn
Seeing the same type of things, off tank in front of main tank is asking for you to get focus fire by enemy and die
OWL strats though, when you see through, you can predict what will happen
If the main tank of the enemy places a barrier almost on a choke or when they move forward and claim space, you shouldn't be near that as off tank. Can not hold the space that is NOT created by YOUR main tank
interesting to see how fast you're being punished
slender lance
That's why I watch Boston and Dallas games
Just so I can learn
And how to capitalize on mistakes
karmic grotto
Analyzing the match further, at Downtown: SMS positioning and Haksal focus fire on Poko caused them to lose the fight. At the moment Fusion came from the top of the bridge thing, Haksal had to wall their teammates to protect against focus fire, then he could have used his ult
Neither Bumper, nor SMS, nor Slime had to die if Haksal did that
If you play Mei, using her walls isn't only offensive but also to protect your teammates when Orisa doesn't have shield to protect against sudden focus fire
slender lance
Was haskal in position for that
karmic grotto
No idea what he was doing
He was on the left side right, but Fusion decided to go from the top
Smart from Fusion, but why didn't Haksal anticipate the attack from Fusion?
If he didn't tunnel vision, he could have seen Bumper not having Orisa shield on cooldown
slender lance
I think haskal had the idea that if he could take poko out of mech then they could win the shield war
That's the only reason I see valid
But it probably wasn't that
karmic grotto
I agree, that's a possibility
But Haksal tries to flank the d.va instead of protecting his teammates
Which he could have done easily
Could have walled, then used ult since D.va was looking at that way
karmic grotto
It wasn't lmao and it got punished
slender lance
Especially since they have zarya and no dva
If they had a dva they might have been able to get saved
karmic grotto
He tried to freeze d.va for 2 seconds
Possible freezing d.va to grav
Two possible things he could have done: what I said earlier, but also the reverse of it would have worked, Fusion coming in > Throw Mei ult, then wall, then remove wall, then Titans can easily kill them off
Could have been 100%
@slender lance As you said, watching teams who make many mistakes, you can learn a lot of what you could have done better
slender lance
That's the main reason I watch the games that are the good teams vs the bad
But their seem to be a good about it reasons for what haskal did
The question is were they valid
slender lance
I think they all could have been but it was just really poor execution
He could have been with his team and still freeze poko
On that little ledge next to the stairs in front of poko
slender lance
I feel like if he was there then he could freeze poko and hop down to wall off fusion
And they probably would have won that fight
karmic grotto
That is one scenario, but if you go back in time, it all started with Twilight
slender lance
I don't see twilight in the pic
So he was either out if position
Or coming from spawn
karmic grotto
It's before
10 seconds before
But that's a story for another time, they could have clutched it 5v6
karmic grotto
They only used 1 ult when starting the fight, was Moira's ult
But Twilights for no reason positioning
lead to his death by Eqo wall
slender lance
And Titans don't look like they are in a position where they want to use ults
slender lance
They were at 75% and probably wanted to just get it into 1 fight territory
echo quest
No way they run that strat with sms against a Decent team
slender lance
Yeah but I think they may have wanted to just win the last fight with ults
So I think the whole plan might have been get into 1 fight territory and then use ults
karmic grotto
You'd think Titans are one of the best teams in the League, but seeing these tiny mistakes, holy shit
Like mistakes you'd see in ranked
slender lance
I think that's why they have lost those matches
They make small mistakes that add up a lot
karmic grotto
Ah true, I've heard about that
echo quest
karmic grotto
LMAO
sterile fox
what
echo quest
Than he ulted him
sterile fox
did he hook the nuke
echo quest
@sterile fox no He accidentally booped the wrecking ball onto cart
echo quest
And since London is complete dogshit in OT they lost
This tilted me so much when I saw it
Ngl
karmic grotto
Missplays
Not even in Contenders you should see these things happening
But they happen?
OWL has so many lucky moments
lucky wins
echo quest
The Paris c9 was the funniest shit this year
karmic grotto
so uhm.. is nyxl sandbagging before trying hard in playoffs
trail lodge
Everyone is saying Boston is washed but the only reason they lost was because Huk was signaling to Ali Khamenei to stop Iranian aggression in the Persian Gulf. Playing Persia with Fusions, an Englishmen, and losing was an allegory to show that Iran forcefully seizing British oil tankers will similarly result in a loss for Iran in real life. Blase, an American, also played as Roadhog (who was born in a radioactive wasteland) in tonight’s loss to symbolize the collapse of the Iran-USA nuclear deal
naive garden
Probably the one vs Atlanta
Although, I don't think its really a C9
Still funny though
echo quest
@naive garden 2 meters away from point c finish, and you killed all 6 isn’t c9
trail lodge
Worse C9 I can remember off the top of my head was Frances C9 vs Canda on Anubis
naive garden
I literally just said its not a c9
But everyone is calling it that
Casters included
trim shadow
Youngjin did a class A c9 tho
naive garden
That one hurt to watch
echo quest
@naive garden how is it not a c9 lmao
warped creek
Routing for London Spitfire
If they win on Sunday vs Altanta we in the top 6, cmon, still p###ed that we lost to Florida though
mental estuary
It truly doesnt make much sense that they lost to florida yea
slender lance
I think London is just insanely inconsistent and there is literally no telling how well they'll play
They have good players
trim shadow
Atlanta 3-1
slender lance
Some top teams have one or too bad games where they loose to a middle teir team but London loses to teams in every their
trim shadow
London
Got 3-0
By florida
They only took the titans to a map 5 cause the titans are very hot and cold
slender lance
Atlanta will beat London tonight if they keep paying how they have been
trim shadow
They play washington
slender lance
Titans are hot and cold because they spent too long playing hooreg instead of stitch I think
trim shadow
London is sunday
To be Washington all u have todo is control corey
Beat*
If u let corey dictate the pace of the game
slender lance
If he is contested then they can win
trim shadow
You wont win
slender lance
Agreed
trim shadow
That could be said for any owl team but its the case in washington
cause once they hit their strides they start getting over aggresive
dusk sphinx
Beating Justice is the same as beating Corey
trim shadow
Something like that
dusk sphinx
Shut him down and you shut the Justice down
trim shadow
My hope is erster keeps hitting his strides
Erster and babybay
X factor for my boys is Masaa and dog
And erster
Its the same as guangzhou if u Silence happy or shu they fall apart
dusk sphinx
Even then the Reign should overwhelm the Justice cause their playstyle favours the matchup vs the Justice
trim shadow
It also depends on map
dusk sphinx
As the Reign are pretty much the most aggressive team in the league and Janus is just a joke
Meaning he will probably fall first every single fight unless Corey gets a very early pick
That being said I didn't find the Justice very convincing vs Mayhem either
trim shadow
The houston match kinda revealed to me washingtons weaknesses
But i never watched it all the way through so i cant comment
dusk sphinx
Yeah the Washington are like glass cannons
storm cloak
I like Washington
I agree they aren't consistent
Also Shanghai isn't doing well bc they cant run 3 dps
dusk sphinx
Shanghai were imo the most boring team anyways so I'm glad their real skill is shown now 
trim shadow
san fransicso*
slender lance
Unpopular opinion: it's easier to watch and understand goats than 222
I've been thinking about this for a while
slender lance
Yeah but
You see all 12
In 222 I don't see all 12 in every 6v6 fight
I just have trouble following the dps all the time
trim shadow
how
slender lance
Because their just never with the team half the time
Their either flanking or way in the back
I know no one else understands but it's just my personal opinion
I also thought goats and dive are the best metas we have had because of the amount of coordination it requires to work
supple prism
Goats and goats 2 is easy to watch. Dive was kinda hard to but eventually became kind of predictable
slender lance
So what do you guys think will be the best game to watch
limber pine
today?
slender lance
Yes
karmic grotto
justice atlanta
tawny sigil
is contender 2 2 2
dusk sphinx
Goats is like... The most skilled meta with dive... It's REALLY hard to understand its ins and outs
limber pine
contenders is in 2-2-2 yes
trim shadow
i saw some matches and it looked like a rule 222 not a hard lock
someone had switched to brig and had 3 supports so
but i could be wrong
@dusk sphinx yea who can hit q at the right time is skill
dusk sphinx
I can assure you Goats on the pro scene required much more from teams than lets say triple dps
balmy wolf
every meta when played for that long is the "most skilled"
and every single meta when initially starting out is "skillless and stupid"
if goats came before dive, people would hate dive and ask for goats back
theres so much depth to each and every single team composition on each part of each map with each variant of each meta comp with each aggro style
storm cloak
👀
I just like watching genji play
I dont care about comps too much. Although goats was slightly boring for me
But I loved watching pharah play against goats but when its pharah vs pharah it's not as entertaining
gaunt acorn
balmy wolf
quick everyone act surprised
trim shadow
Confirnedd nice
Everyone knew he was joining stage 4
He was probably delayed cause visa
balmy wolf
its like last couple of weeks
is there really enough time to integrate him into the roster
trim shadow
And vancouver has a week and athe play ins
balmy wolf
should they really be integrating a brand new main tank into the roster during the playoffs tho
trim shadow
Wouldnt hurt them to much
Since everyone else is consistent
Hell probably he a map specialist
snow thorn
hot verge
^^
raw ermine
was tizi a runaway player?
trim shadow
Yes
mental estuary
Lol
vale pond
Looks like a copypasta
Someone gets pissy over bumper being tilted in a match and the karen-cogs in their brains start spinning
cedar drum
@echo quest The mods just fucking deleted it
@vale pond Bumper is a professional player
He is required by contract to act better than this
Extremely irresponsible of him to throw and grief over not getting Sigma in one game and risking being fined and penalised and potentially costing his team games and the season
gaunt acorn
@cedar drum what do you mean 'the devs deleted it'
gaunt acorn
it was automatically locked pending mod review
due to the numerous reports
from what i can see
cedar drum
@gaunt acorn Where do u see that?
gaunt acorn
cedar drum
Ahh
Thread was automatically set to suggested
Nvm, it's still at the bottom even after changing it to Top and Best
Weird Reddit is weird
Anyway
Hopefully the MODS fix this
pliant magnet
owl teams are just
1 man
5 asian men
trail lodge
That was an Insane halt holy shit
mental estuary
frd the feeder
storm cloak
What did Bumper do?
trail lodge
?
storm cloak
@cedar drum
gaunt acorn
uneven wren
ashe alert ashe alert
atlanta's first draw of the season
only sf and van have not drawn this season
karmic grotto
Bob, do something!
mental estuary
he did so all good
karmic grotto
A draw means still an advantage
Atlanta only needs 1 game and they're set
And I hope to see Erster back on Hanzo
uneven wren
they were eliminated on the last day of stage 3
balmy wolf
Well that was fun
echo quest
Y’all think bumper will get any fines?
calm holly
Wtf Erster
storm cloak
How much could he be fined? @echo quest
uneven wren
erster didn't fuck up when it mattered
karmic grotto
The fuck is wrong with him today?
uneven wren
lol babybay, dogman, and corey
karmic grotto
Erster failed so manytimes
uneven wren
all taking a group photo
karmic grotto
Ridiculous
uneven wren
still though just 1 play and he becomes a hero
balmy wolf
Wow lol. Knocking the mans height
karmic grotto
Stratus meanwhile throwing freeze lamp
You think stratus is scared for some matrix?
He had multiple freezes over Erster
Erster too scared
Should learn to throw that thing
uneven wren
erster potm
trim shadow
As i said
Washington had me sweating bullets
But atlanta as a team came together better
Even tho washington had beauitful holds
karmic grotto
Atlanta had stupid mistakes
Erster..... I just feel annoyed when a player, no matter who, even on ranked is scared to play the game becuz of potential counter play
uneven wren
maybe a hot take? dogman should have been potm
minor ingot
Mei is fucking boring
echo quest
Sinatraa lowkey not doing much
balmy wolf
This is pretty dang one sided.
dreamy cave
jinmu is a really good phara, he somewhat surprises me each time
im surprised ameng died to that, looked like he was covered
balmy wolf
dear god 5 min defense
supple prism
got to be the easiest league picks ever
dreamy cave
big sad blade
broken dagger
dreamy cave
i voted violet
omg nvm i guess violet is a bad pick, died instantly
******** i cant switch it now
autumn briar
gaunt acorn
tropic herald
Summary of WAS vATL?
upper hawk
So this Mei Blade crap plays a lot like GOATS
balmy wolf
how so
dreamy cave
pink v purple
molten skiff
ok so seoul fans should cheer for gladiators
upper niche
Those LAG alt jerseys look so good.
dusk sphinx
I told you guys the Reign would win this
pearl stratus
Man. It's too bad Bongos is such a bad ult.
pearl stratus
It's not bad at all, some smooth brain in here said it was bad the other day.
dusk sphinx
Its Whole Hog level
shrewd zinc
Defiant #1 team dont @ me
pearl stratus
I just like watching it win fights because it instantly counters healing.
dusk sphinx
Anyways who did I have the discussion with about Justice vs Reign?
shrewd zinc
Actually the Uprising must be better
or the Ulaanbaatar Kungarnas are the GOATS of overwatch
dusk sphinx
I should become an analyst what I said would happen actually happened
shrewd zinc
between who the Ulaanbaatar Kungarnas and the Kinshasa Contendies
dreamy cave
i got that twitch pick right
opal spruce
upper hawk
sigh this team sometimes
upper hawk
dusk sphinx
Justice are literally " You take down Corey you take the fight"
dreamy cave
c9
swift moth
hello spark could you stop it, thank oyu
balmy wolf
bebe with that over extension, nice
balmy wolf
yeah i dont have any preference for owl teams im completely neutral
trim shadow
is hangzhou really hitting a late stage stride
like they suddenly realized playoffs was around the corner
balmy wolf
S4 carrying
swift moth
roar is a dragon magnet
balmy wolf
spark are so bad with these utls
I wonder why adora thinks its a good idea to waste blizzard with dragon
with a min left
Like just save for the last fight, and didn't have 1 for the last fight either
trim shadow
gladiators are falling apart
holy shit if gladiators drops to hangzhou and valiant atlanta gets the 6th
thats taking into account atlanta simply wins against london
dreamy cave
wait for the 99% swap
trim shadow
oh that was sad gosoe
dreamy cave
lol nvm usually that always happens
swift moth
void is trash at not dva
at gladiators traded bischu so they screwed themselves
and
trim shadow
bischu was in contenders i think
balmy wolf
Bischu was on a 2 way, but then traded to charge.
Keep in mind the only reason void is playing is because Bischu got sick and couldn't play at all.
dusk sphinx
Gladiators 
balmy wolf
roar is meh, and decay just sucks at mei
Which is weird because s4 has the better mei.
storm cloak
👀
pearl stratus
Spark also, historically, have good coaching. They may not get the meta right away but both times now they've settled into it well.
They started off meh at 3:3 too.
trim shadow
seeing as godsb guxue and the boys have gotten comfterable in role lock
i think hangzhou can make noise in the play offs
along with atlanta and guangzhou
if we learn anything from last years play offs
balmy wolf
the only thing spark need to work on is ult usage
then their gonna look their 3-3 selves
Meanwhile shock likes playing musical chairs while dunking on the hunters.
dusk sphinx
The Shock are pretty much the only team dominant in both Goats and 2/2/2
hidden vault
Was it youngjin?
echo quest
Ye
Roar is pepega
On anything but Winston
Decay can’t play mei
S4 tried his hardest to carry dead weight feesbadman
hidden vault
Is it really true that decay and roar are bad?
balmy wolf
you have no idea lul
sour magnet
Out of curiosity, would shanghai's stage 3 winning comp of beaten goats in its prime?
trim shadow
If it was executed well
pearl stratus
Oh btw - we finally got the official https://twitter.com/vancouvertitans/status/1162469001685061633?s=21
sullen berry
how long is too long
I think Vancouver could be TiZi and hooreg's home
this is the longest Hooreg has stayed on a team since the inaugural season, after all
hidden vault
Yeah it is finally annouced
Could tizi play for grandfinals?
And with hooreg they are bound to win
raw ermine
what position is tizi?
tropic herald
Tizi is a tank, not sure which he is strongest at though
shrewd zinc
maybe they brought him in for the orisa because he was better than bumper in scrims
hidden vault
For his winston
tropic herald
Bumper might also get benched bc of what he did in game a few days ago
mellow niche
Going to meet some Vancouver Titans today and I don’t know what to ask them, anybody got any suggestions?
hidden vault
What did he do in game?
trim shadow
I never thought about it but
This is the last week in the blizzard arena
Idk why im suddenly filled with sadness
hidden vault
As winston?
echo quest
Ye
Someone wouldn’t give him sigma
So
Should be fined
Yo Jehong is 27
He has to go to military service soon
😦
balmy wolf
similar to the guy who owned runaway
balmy wolf
no i meant the service thing
echo quest
Kuki was in the korean Navy
Tobi was a distinguished shooter
Does anyone know why EscA retired?
pearl stratus
Kuki was a bit more than just in the navy. He was basically the Korean equivalent of a Seal.
hidden vault
The Republic of Korea Navy Special Warfare Flotilla (ROKNSWF)
The ROKNSWF are heavily influenced by the United States Navy SEALs
tropic vector
Shock destroying them
trail lodge
@hidden vault Titans aren''t getting to the grand finals
noble gyro
Is there a place with recommendations on who will likely win etc? I don't know literally any team but I want those sweet points
balmy wolf
lul at map 3 picks
feral wing
paris dont have to win 4-0 tho???
do they?
i mean their playoff hopes are all but physically eliminated
but technically they dont need to 4-0 as long as chengdu get swept again in their last match
uneven wren
soon started hard carrying on tracer
vagrant niche
old sneaky soon is back
uneven wren
ah
feral wing
also shanghai were sorta winning the fight
uneven wren
that's why gamsu was off the point
feral wing
but because of soon's heroics on tracer
he had taken out both supports
and youngjin
etc etc
it was pretty close but yeah shanghai wouldve probably won the fight
shadowburn is outplaying dding on pharah
didnt expect that
SHADOWBURN GENJI
rare magnet
why the dragons gotta start sucking again
uneven wren
if shanghai actually misses playoffs there will be a lot of upsetti spaghetti
feral wing
the odds are astronomical
but anything can happen
im still shocked that paris havent been eliminated
balmy wolf
shanghai is 0-40 what you smoking
balmy wolf
is it on the news too?
feral wing
lol finnsi
balmy wolf
he could have gone behinde the wall on his right but yea
karmic grotto
ey
mental estuary
What the fuck was that bomb to begin with?
balmy wolf
Soon missing space already
That emp bomb could have been so good if finnsi was a bit better
outer sluice
Outlaws better win tonight’s game
outer sluice
If we’re out of the playoffs we’re taking Chengdu with us
echo quest
LAV needs to be knocked out
feral wing
paris can technically still make it
outer sluice
Mafia baby
vital matrix
can they 🤔
vital matrix
well,; 0.1% > 0% so ill take it lol
feral wing
chengdu get swept by houston
and paris wins the next 2 maps
then paris are in
but the odds of it happening
are just insane
vital matrix
it'd be dope
dusky canopy
I'm manifesting that Outlaws win
outer sluice
Yeehaw
vital matrix
yeah now that i saw that again, finnsi could definitely go behind the wall to his right
outer sluice
I’m also happy because Dallas fuel ain’t making the playoffs either
dusky canopy
Valiant deserve that playoffs spot. They may have had a totally shitty first stage, but they're the better team now
dusky canopy
Yeehaw indeed
vital matrix
Who's gonna take this one?
outer sluice
Yeehaw them pandas
main lintel
Selling xbox gt Ryujehong $50
dusky canopy
Nope, Paris won Control
tawny sigil
oh ok... so dragon is gonna win
mental estuary
depends
tawny sigil
no depends... its written in the prophecy
mental estuary
They just put diem finally but it can still go Paris's way
azure harbor
vital matrix
did kruise just die inside immortality?
mental estuary
That's pepega
minor flame
immortality needs LoS
vital matrix
ooo
minor flame
if theres no LoS it doenst protect them
vital matrix
i didnt know
azure harbor
Flanking Finnsi
vital matrix
lets go paris 😎
echo quest
Dragons
lyric vale
Soon is soo good
lyric vale
He's quite good
balmy wolf
You can take the players out of the shanghai dragons but you can't take the shanghai dragons out of the players lol
azure harbor
split moon
mental estuary
My god
tawny sigil
pshhh
mental estuary
They got rolled
raw ermine
gg
balmy wolf
No they still have the match against spark
mental estuary
balmy wolf
Finnsi his roadhog is so much better then his dva
karmic grotto
you'll need it against Corey
fervent acorn
was that c9 lol
echo quest
Are dragons actually out?
dusky canopy
No
trim shadow
Chengdu beats houston
valiant beats boston
Shanghai is fucked
Technically
Paris can still make it
Its a long shot bur
karmic grotto
karmic grotto
lmao
trim shadow
And they beat washington
trim shadow
Im gonna slap a grandma if paris sneaks in
royal mesa
azure harbor
Reaper ult
clear crane
omg kariv
mental estuary
Kariv thank you.
balmy wolf
I feel so bad for blase must be so frustrating
clear crane
Team UK wont be a good team at all if Fusions doesnt improve on Orisa
balmy wolf
Having to play something you are not that good at against world class playets
mental estuary
What was thay fight lol
azure harbor
tawny sigil
every stagger is the longest stagger they've ever seen
clear crane
I feel so bad for blasé
tawny sigil
420 blasé
dreamy cave
i keep missing so much
mental estuary
YES SYMM
tawny sigil
900 iq
tawny sigil
boston owes me iq though
azure harbor
mental estuary
6:10
GET A CAP RN
fastest time in the west pls
tfw
blocked by a mei mate
so typical
dreamy cave
im surprised there playing persia
tawny sigil
im surprised they didn't finish the map yet
tawny sigil
draw anyway
dreamy cave
wow
tawny sigil
finally
dreamy cave
ok
mental estuary
rip c9