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[jagged crater]

i think i mixed dva and hog in s3

mostly dva despite really not knowing how to play her

she was just a one man (girl) wrecking machine

[dreamy cave]

did the matches start?

nvm

[willow moon]

Nop

Preshow

[jagged crater]

pre-preshow

[tawny sigil]

prepresideshow

pepesideshow

illuminati confirmed

another day in wtf wonder land stage 4

who is gonna unexplicably win or lose

[trim shadow]

jesus dallas

the only close match theyve had since stage 3 was new york

suprisingly

[jagged crater]

battle for the bottom, boston or dallas?

i like the players from both teams :()

hate to see them in this state

[trim shadow]

there chances of play ins are knot

[willow moon]

What games do we have today? I follow the #esports-news and nothing has been posted

[trim shadow]

!schedule

[somber yew]

Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 4 Week 3

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Aug 9th 22:30 EDT (in 4 hours)

undefined HZS vs NYE <:NYE:438251672997724160>

Aug 10th 00:15 EDT (in 5 hours)

<:HOU:438251672821563402> HOU vs LDN <:LDN:438251672876351489>

Aug 10th 15:00 EDT (in 20 hours)

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Aug 11th 20:15 EDT (in 2 days)

Developed with LOVE by MoonFire · Aug 9, 2019, 10:47 PM

[trim shadow]

@willow moon

[willow moon]

I love you all

[dreamy cave]

paid actor sign

[willow moon]

Match starting

[tawny sigil]

going for the 1am match today

I practiced, they can do it

[balmy wolf]

oh it's persia

cool can't wait to see him die again

[dreamy cave]

ohh? symm?

[tawny sigil]

who?

[balmy wolf]

corey on sym

[tawny sigil]

forget all your sniping skill... you're on symm now

snipe your balls off

[balmy wolf]

if the man can do it

let him

poor fusions

i really like him as a player but damn does boston suck

[dreamy cave]

team t bag

my god

[willow moon]

GG Symmetra turrets

[balmy wolf]

it's interesting

[tawny sigil]

Corey in the house... More like Corey on the point

[trim shadow]

corey slapping ass on sym

ive seen it all now

[balmy wolf]

I don't think we'll see it in the rest of the maps

[tawny sigil]

alright back to goats

[dreamy cave]

every time they walked in the turrents were zapping

[tawny sigil]

the torrents

were downloading

[dreamy cave]

persia looks like a good healer, whos place is he taking rn?

[balmy wolf]

aimgod

pretty sure anyway

persia has a history of being the most picked ana in the league

[dreamy cave]

hes pretty good on moriait looks

[balmy wolf]

tell me someone who isn't good at moira

[dreamy cave]

idk

kodak

[balmy wolf]

idk is a pretty decent support

more lucio if I recall correctly

[dreamy cave]

no i didnt mean idk the player

i meant i dont know

[balmy wolf]

mb

[dreamy cave]

lol its cool

[willow moon]

lmao

[balmy wolf]

it still weirds me out that some chinese players use white girl names as their gamer tag

[dreamy cave]

steller man

[willow moon]

First time I saw Michelle I was...

[dreamy cave]

thats sad

[balmy wolf]

I was thinking elsa but him too

[azure harbor]

[dreamy cave]

boston should have lost that

[balmy wolf]

they probably are gonna lose this anyway

the series

probably not the map

[willow moon]

Persia's ult was a waste

[dreamy cave]

they spread out

n couldnt hit them

[willow moon]

LMAOOOOO

Colourhex

[dreamy cave]

ARK

[azure harbor]

[mystic saffron]

LMAO COLOURHEX

[dreamy cave]

[dapper lantern]

Washington has a bad habit of using ultimates too early. A lot of those round flips came from Stratus using Blizzard a little too early

[willow moon]

At least Boston doesn't know how to use their ults either

[mental estuary]

Man

This felt like watching plats play

[mystic saffron]

right ??

[mental estuary]

Justice never regrouped on 2nd map

Fucking plats

I hated watching that first match

Hopefully gets better

[willow moon]

Don't count on it 👀

[mental estuary]

You are right

I shouldn't

[jagged crater]

Justice back?

[dreamy cave]

lets go

[little silo]

corey on widow nice

[velvet scarab]

uprising trolling

[willow moon]

ANA

Mercy

[azure harbor]

[dreamy cave]

[trim shadow]

did gido justpunch a bladed genji
fucking mad lad

[mental estuary]

Pewpew mercy never loses

[azure harbor]

Battle Mercy

[tawny sigil]

there is your blood thirsty support, Doa

[willow moon]

Fuckin mad lad indeed

[trim shadow]

gido did a fucking ora

[dreamy cave]

[azure harbor]

[dreamy cave]

your ults dont matter when your hacked and dead

[azure harbor]

5 ults LUL

[willow moon]

Sad

[velvet scarab]

ez

[tawny sigil]

and bad

[balmy wolf]

Speed run

[tawny sigil]

dot com slash overwatch

[dreamy cave]

corey for free? yeah!

[covert arrow]

omg someone played symm?

POG

[willow moon]

A good one at that

Then again. Corey.

[covert arrow]

finally my babygets used uwu

[dreamy cave]

that jacket on bren looks pretty nice.

[willow moon]

I miss Zarya in OWL

[dreamy cave]

same ^

[severe junco]

Dallas vs BigGeese today

this'll be great to watch

[willow moon]

Another day when I won't be able to watch Glads. Have a scrim scheduled >: (

[azure harbor]

toxic

[balmy wolf]

I love how petty these dudes are even as paid pros

T bagging is great

[willow moon]

Then again Boston is being

[tawny sigil]

easy 4-0

[midnight sage]

Has Fusions gotten pissed off yet>

[tawny sigil]

boston is just bottom tier now

[willow moon]

EZ

[tawny sigil]

like legit

[willow moon]

That was awful indeed

[dreamy cave]

[tawny sigil]

everyone should have boston at the bottom of their power ranking

[north beacon]

The teabag after killing hanzo 2v1

Was lame

[tawny sigil]

dont tbag when you cant win

shot in the ass

[willow moon]

😂

[azure harbor]

[willow moon]

Fusions is so fucking lost all the time

[azure harbor]

Fusion really likes to be out of position

yea

[tawny sigil]

Experience the iris

[azure harbor]

reverse sweep is coming?

[tawny sigil]

fusion always look like he's gonna burst a blood vessel

[azure harbor]

[tawny sigil]

420 blase

[willow moon]

Damn

[balmy wolf]

Come on boston

Just drop dead so i dont have to see your shit play

[somber breach]

[spice nacelle]

[mental estuary]

This is so damn

Low plat vs high plat

[dreamy cave]

boston should do good on offense

wow they won that

[balmy wolf]

Feel like Meis utility is the next thing that needs addressing

Watching freeze isnt super fun.

[azure harbor]

Stellar and his ults

[dreamy cave]

ark needs to avoid colorhex geez

[azure harbor]

ok, seems like wasting ults is just Mei`s things

[minor flame]

Boston has taken one map off of Justice

that means Boston is better than the Vancouver Titans

[willow moon]

lmao

[minor flame]

Blase?

why did you

what?

[dreamy cave]

didnt have to use hog ult

[balmy wolf]

Sometimes you just gotta give them the whole hog

[dreamy cave]

thats the 2nd time they stopped them early

[sinful rune]

that nano cancel tho

[minor flame]

gg

[dreamy cave]

g g

that beards gone next match

u can @ me on that

[sweet shell]

Who is next

[minor flame]

dallas fuel vs la geeseiators

[sweet shell]

Ah

I like Jayne

But they aren't beating LAg

xd

[balmy wolf]

you basically described what I assume is the majority of the server

[sinful rune]

didnt vancouver lose to chengdu early on?

Or was that NY that lost to them and got butthurt about it

[balmy wolf]

Goose got boop when using sound barrier

[dreamy cave]

sad, and they dont have support ults

[inland pawn]

GladiaTURDS?????

[dreamy cave]

the wall

big sad

[sinful rune]

that wall was sexy

[dreamy cave]

wow they lost that

[inland frost]

I'm just rooting for Gladiators because screw Dallas

H-Town > Dallas

[sinful rune]

I live in LA, I like purple, and I've been subbed to surefour for about 8 months

[inland frost]

Is Baptiste just bad in OWL or are they not playing on Baptiste Patch?

[sinful rune]

Wtf do you mean baptiste is played alot

[inland frost]

I don't see him in this match.

That was my point

[sinful rune]

They don't play him on control

[dreamy cave]

5 ults oof

[inland frost]

I haven't been watching OWL a lot.

[balmy wolf]

Not played on koth that much.

[sinful rune]

They play him as a defense ult, in place of a lucio, on like non KOTH modes

[inland frost]

Interesting

[sinful rune]

But on koth lucio can speed up the rate at which a point is captured (not percent built, but capping the point initially)

[balmy wolf]

Jesus whats with this last fight winning shit

[dreamy cave]

this is a bit dissapointing

glads should have held it longer when they had 5 ults

[gaunt acorn]

god damnit my predictions

[sinful rune]

same

I wish glads didnt throw that match so I get more tokens

[gaunt acorn]

my preds were/are

WAS 3-1 BOS
DAL 0-4 GLA
SFS 3-1 SHD
HZS 1-2 NYE

feelsbadman

why are dallas winning maps

[mental estuary]

bc akm is playing an european meta called the plat meta

[sinful rune]

Glads wasted 300k on a player they could have gotten for 75k

[sweet shell]

LOL

300k for decay? o;

[sinful rune]

Yeah, they've said at some point they regretted paying so much for him

He's really only worth min salary

Honestly he should have another tour of contenders

[balmy wolf]

min salary? No.

Other teams would've just outbid glads or Decay would've ignore glads all together

Other teams did wanted him for a good reason.

[sinful rune]

i can hear surefour yelling

Gladiators better not lose, I swear I'll be so sad

Losing to a bottom tier team when you're a top 3-5

[dreamy cave]

decay is a strong genji

[sinful rune]

His genji isn't worth 300,000 though, now that we've seen him in OWL on various heroes, I can guarantee you his salary is gonna see at least a 50% reduction next season

they are very likely finding new tanks as well

[minor flame]

this is a bruh moent

imagine the top tier team in the league

losing to Dallas Fuel

[sinful rune]

i said the exact same thing like 5 mins ago

[minor flame]

i can hear surefour yelling
Gladiators better not lose, I swear I'll be so sad
Losing to a bottom tier team when you're a top 3-5

[sinful rune]

Yea

Can anybody else picture s4 yelling when he got slept in invis

[minor flame]

lmfaoooo

[balmy wolf]

They actually won 2 cp

[gaunt acorn]

FUCK

[minor flame]

IMAGINE GLADIATORS

LOSING TO FUEL

HAHAHAHAH

[sinful rune]

if glads don't reverse sweep im gonna burn my jersey 😭

[dreamy cave]

LOL do it and post it here

[balmy wolf]

Jesus you're the fan who wants the roster to be renew whenever your team loses. @sinful rune

Calm down.

[trim shadow]

I guess gladiators are allergic to texans

[sinful rune]

ok roar is like bumper 2.0 , you don't want that lmao

[trim shadow]

https://twitter.com/BadPachimari/status/1159732512404443141

@sinful rune

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[balmy wolf]

I love that clip so much.

[sinful rune]

glad healers are good, their dps are good, they just need to take a few hundred thousand dollars away from decay and use it to find a new mt

Void is good but I wish he were more like gods, which is a tall order

[balmy wolf]

Or or just coach roar.

[sinful rune]

Gods eats so many ults

[trim shadow]

Get a tank coach who knows what there doingp

[minor flame]

just eat ults

4head

[sinful rune]

exactly

[balmy wolf]

Roar is a good tank, whoever is coaching him though is doing it wrong.

[trim shadow]

The coaching staff always eludes me

[sinful rune]

Glads have always had a pretty weak tank line, iremix was ok but nowhere near top tier, so I guess the common thread could be the tank coaching

[trim shadow]

Probably cause Coaches will get shit on for bad plays

[balmy wolf]

I wonder if hydration has a decent mei.

[sinful rune]

LOL LOS ANGELES BIGGEESE

[trim shadow]

Only coaches i know dallas’s coches

[sinful rune]

LOL

[trim shadow]

To a extent

[sinful rune]

DO YALL SEE THAT?

[trim shadow]

I see la gladiators

[sinful rune]

no look at the background when it pans back to the casters

[trim shadow]

1-6 stage

[balmy wolf]

oh the biggeese thing

[sinful rune]

It literally just said "Los angeles biggeese"

[trim shadow]

Thats if reverse sweep doesnt happen

[sinful rune]

next to dallas fuel

[trim shadow]

If dallas goes 0-7 theyll be the 6th team this year going 0-7

I think boston is currently winless in stage as well

[sinful rune]

did ya see? biggeese

https://gyazo.com/8d702af67c068f97b91380ed7d5acbe8

[trim shadow]

Mom come get me im scared

[sinful rune]

Roar is dead

Ok even with coaching he just dies in the most stupid ways

extremely consistently

[visual glen]

Just tuned in how the heck is LA losing to Dallas

[sinful rune]

^

They're sandbagging

Decay mei is losing the game for them, low-key

Like decay's mei performance this game is legit throwing his team's stats

The casters said as much

[uneven wren]

i come home and dallas is winning 2-0

at this point i shouldn't be surprised bottom ranked teams are winning

[sinful rune]

You know I really wanna see washington vs. florida

[uneven wren]

somehow i found that game during week 4 boring

even though it was a reverse sweep

so i kinda don't wanna see it again lol

[balmy wolf]

zach needs to just chuck his ults since he's building them so quickly

[frozen perch]

Is Mei-Reaper really better than GOATS?

[gaunt acorn]

@frozen perch it's kind of hard to directly compare them

given that goats can no longer be run

[frozen perch]

no im saying to watch

[gaunt acorn]

oh

i preferred goats

[frozen perch]

me too

[dreamy cave]

fucking 5:20 geez

[sinful rune]

yeah same here

but we get to see other dps sometimes, so it's nice

[balmy wolf]

oh look they won a map

and they actually rolled them

[gaunt acorn]

keep on rolling

[balmy wolf]

Also seems like DVA will forever be meta.

[dreamy cave]

and lucio

[balmy wolf]

Bet the devs really regret creating matrix

[balmy flower]

lucio makes a lot of sense on this map since it's so wide

[dreamy cave]

that was a bit dumb to fight there

[balmy wolf]

this match is pretty much over

[dreamy cave]

they could have had a better fight

[balmy flower]

well they have time to get back before the next choke

[balmy wolf]

why are they playing the mirror comp jfc

[uneven wren]

cuz it's dallas vs fuel

[balmy wolf]

map 5 here we go

[sinful rune]

I might not have to burn my jersey! >:D

[pearl cedar]

shaz clutched that

[balmy wolf]

another night of 3 map 5s?

lets gooo

[pearl cedar]

built his trans despite being on a flank

literally won that OT defense

[balmy wolf]

DF being idiots and running a double sniper comp even tho they are trash at it

[willow moon]

Can someone update me on the Dallas game?

[uneven wren]

2-2 tie

[balmy wolf]

gg glads won

DF are boomed

[uneven wren]

more importantly it's dallas vs fuel currently

[sinful rune]

dallas vs geese*

Los Angeles Geesiators 👌

[uneven wren]

reverse sweep incoming

[vast geode]

Nothing new, Dallas getting reverse swept cuz they pepega tier

Someone care to elaborate why this keeps happening?

[uneven wren]

dallas flipped point

cuz when dallas loses a map they mentally boom after

[sinful rune]

All the teams that have never gotten a reverse sweep are like "Hey wanna get a reverse sweep? We're playing against dallas tonight"

[uneven wren]

game goes from dallas vs biggeese to dallas vs fuel

[sinful rune]

wait was that displayed somewhere? LOL

[vast geode]

No

Just a running gag about Dallas always losing due to themselves

[uneven wren]

gg

[sinful rune]

ah

[minor flame]

imagine

[inland pawn]

EZ Clap

[dreamy cave]

geez

[minor flame]

having to reverse sweep

[sinful rune]

BIG DUCK ENERGY LOL

[minor flame]

Fuel

for your first one

[uneven wren]

3 reverse sweeps this week already

[dreamy cave]

yo there undefeated as the biggease

i wonder how long this last

[sinful rune]

@dreamy cave I don't have to burn my jersey 👍

[visual glen]

[dreamy cave]

lol

[vast geode]

Go burn your Fuel jerseys if you even had one in the first place

They're pepega tier and coaching staff needs to fix their mental issues

[dreamy cave]

is it not a fuel source

[sinful rune]

HAH

[vast geode]

[worn hornet]

🦆

[dreamy cave]

fuel jerseys were ment to be burnt due to branding

[balmy wolf]

watch glads get knocked out of playoffs again by a team that nobody expects

[vast geode]

I'm hoping that Chengdu get a decent run if they make it to playoffs

[dreamy cave]

ok now this could be a good match

[unreal spade]

I don't watch OWL till now but is kabaji going to play in stage 4

VS

??

[balmy wolf]

huh

what u smoking

[unreal spade]

Nothing

[uneven wren]

bold moves here i'm predicting shanghai to win

[vast geode]

What is Kabaji playing in stage 4 a meme

[sinful rune]

@unreal spade kabaji is signed to Philly as a streamer, he won't actually be playing in OWL

[dreamy cave]

lets go luffy

[vast geode]

Would be nice though if he could play

Unlikely but if he did definitely would get signed in the offseason

[sinful rune]

I wish dafran still played

He'd be an actual star in this dps meta

[unreal spade]

@sinful rune him and XQC are my favs and both dont play in OWL

[sinful rune]

dafran was my favorite, but I love xqc too

[dreamy cave]

well

that looked 1 sided

[vast geode]

Too early to call it

[balmy wolf]

pharah one tricks

[sinful rune]

Do yall thing DDING will play on volskaya?

think*

[vast geode]

Ofc

[dreamy cave]

jin geez

[vast geode]

Whos the other dps that will fill his spot if otherwise?

[sinful rune]

Aight I'm voting him for having the most hero damage

Dding, sinatraa, or youngjin, but prob dding

[vast geode]

Shock probs gonna win this round

[north beacon]

Shock lost ult advantage though

With using blossom

[vast geode]

Lol guess I jinxed them

Wait wtf

Clapped

[north beacon]

Close

[vast geode]

Tru

I hope this match is at least more entertaining than the dumpster fire that was Dallas vs Fuel

Oh boy here we go

[sinful rune]

What are the odds sinatraa gets put in for volskaya?

[vast geode]

Snipers

[desert gull]

architect poppin off

[vast geode]

ResidentSleeper

[sinful rune]

Do yall think he will be or nah?

[vast geode]

I guess at least its cool and flashy

[north beacon]

How does mei reaper work against widow pharah

[vast geode]

Shock ez

Diem time

[balmy wolf]

looks like diem will be subbed in next

1-0 baby lez goooo

[vast geode]

All the COD ads with Enter Sandman ResidentSleeper

[balmy wolf]

Ok apparently diem and geguri are in the stand rn

[vast geode]

So many better Metallica songs they could've used

[balmy wolf]

So guess were not seeing subs

[visual glen]

MVP candidates warming the bench

[balmy wolf]

MVP winner on the bench

[vast geode]

Yeah this looks like a 3-1 by the favour of the Shock so far

[azure harbor]

[vast geode]

4-0 maybe even

[willow moon]

(I'm late to the party)

[vast geode]

Don't worry

That game was boring after the first half

[dreamy cave]

my god

[midnight sage]

I guess no one wanted to even try to stop Rascal

[balmy wolf]

I mean

No one could

[dreamy cave]

[vast geode]

Free Diem pls

[balmy wolf]

Like Youngjin isn't a hitscan player as far as I'm aware

so unless he can pull off a flying doomfist

I think that's it chief

[dreamy cave]

https://tenor.com/view/pharah-overwatch-rocket-barrage-gif-13093946

[vast geode]

I don't think thats possible given the pro setting

Unless Youngjin is that good on doom

[tawny sigil]

shanghai, back into irrelevancy

[vast geode]

No not really

At least not yet

[midnight sage]

4:38 oof

[hidden vault]

The duo should have been dd-ing diem

[vast geode]

Youngjin is gonna need to be an eastern Corey to beat Architect

[midnight sage]

LOL

[azure harbor]

[midnight sage]

RIP Gamsu

[vast geode]

Finally

[midnight sage]

Gamsu getting thrashed lol

[sinful rune]

whole hog through the bap ult is an absolute shredder

[midnight sage]

GAMSU

[sinful rune]

a meat grinder turned into a gun you can shoot

[vast geode]

Ouch that was a huge investment

And Rascal still died

[midnight sage]

There we go

[vast geode]

Shanghai could be clutch here

Youngjin looks pretty strong on hanzo

[sinful rune]

Who in the fuck is Dennis Hawelka

[vast geode]

INTERNETHULK

Basically Overwatch Legend

[sinful rune]

what'd he do

and why is there an award for him?

oh he dead

ok

[worn falcon]

https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqvnpu

[vast geode]

Yes

[worn falcon]

fucking Glads lol

[vast geode]

LULW

[sinful rune]

LOL

[midnight sage]

Wasted dragon

[north beacon]

Sigh

[azure harbor]

[north beacon]

Rooting for dragons is too much of a rollercoaster

[vast geode]

Maybe sub Diem in for DDing?

[sinful rune]

Sub him in for Youngjin

[vast geode]

Alright gg it is

[sinful rune]

Dding has a hero pool similar to that of youngjin, with a few heroes more, and he plays all of his heroes better

Except for maybe doomfist

You only keep youngjin in if you want doomfist

[vast geode]

Not with Rascal/Architect around

Those two are just dumpstering him when he plays doom

[dreamy cave]

exactly

[north beacon]

I guess I’ll stop watching now

[dreamy cave]

thats y he needs to be subbed out

[balmy wolf]

Shock winning with widow, the same way dragons won against shock in the finals.

Also kind of scary to think that both architect and rascal can literally cover every dps in the game.

[visual glen]

Half time is too long

[dreamy cave]

u could just have diem play widow.. a good widow will make it work.

[midnight sage]

Goddamn

This is season 1 Dragons

[dreamy cave]

this is why they need diem, there running their comp

[visual glen]

Still running Youngjin LUL

[midnight sage]

Where is Diem

Nice wall

[dim raptor]

LMAO SOMEONE CALLED RASCAL KOREAN BEIBER LMAOOOOO

[midnight sage]

Some sick wall plays from DDING

[balmy wolf]

getting carried by a hanzo

[midnight sage]

Hard Hanzo carry

[tawny sigil]

time for full hold on point A

[worn hornet]

this is gonna make my games so much worse

now everyone's gonna think they can play Hanzo like them

[balmy wolf]

Can't believe hanzo still has the damn leap ability when he already has wall climb

[midnight sage]

Reverse sweep hype

[tawny sigil]

like that idiot that was play hammond in 3v3 claiming thats how you play, ameng does it that way

3v3 totally different, and you have zero skill dude

and we have no coordination cause you just doing random shit

never play hammond in 3v3 guys

[grand crystal]

this is s1 shanghai atm

also when did shock get really good

[worn hornet]

I just want to play like Fusions on a bad day

[grand crystal]

i always remember them as an average team

ig if you import 5 koreans u win

[inland frost]

I'm surprised we are seeing Doomfist in OWL

[midnight sage]

There we go

LUL

[tawny sigil]

mayhem had to import way more than 5 korean to start winning

[inland frost]

Young went fucking HAM

[midnight sage]

RIP Barrage

[forest raven]

https://twitter.com/SFShock/status/1160027695838724096

San Francisco Shock⚡ (@SFShock)

I guess you can say that Shanghai is... Draggin'...

We are up 2-0 at Halftime!

Twitter

[tawny sigil]

alright now its full hold

what

when am i wrong

[midnight sage]

Well, that tweet isn't aging well

[inland frost]

Ouch.

[dreamy cave]

LOL

[inland frost]

I'm not sure what team I really want to win.

[dreamy cave]

thats a shocker

[balmy wolf]

holy shit envy fingers tattoos are garbage lol

[inland frost]

I literally only care about my home team.

Which is the Houston Outlaws

[midnight sage]

My home team is Houston, too

Goddamnit, Houston

[inland frost]

What part?

[dreamy cave]

home team atl

[tawny sigil]

The Winston Oathlaw, love that team, Jack is so good

JackRat

S1

[midnight sage]

Grew up in Westbury

[vast geode]

Jake's been playing too much Minecraft pvp

Hence why he's good at Hanzo

[inland frost]

Ah, I grew up in Missouri City, but live in Alvin now.

[midnight sage]

I don't live in TX anymore, but Outlaws are still my home team lol

[tawny sigil]

play zarya... well not anymore, This video is #FakeNews

[visual glen]

His hair

Looks like a flying saucer

[tawny sigil]

outdated

Zeplin?

funny that a player that's now perma benched is a contender for MVP

[echo quest]

Are those tats on Envy’s fingers?

[balmy wolf]

yep

[midnight sage]

Almost didn't get Youngjin there

[tawny sigil]

bionade vs bionade

riperino

[midnight sage]

Thinking that is it

Yup

[dreamy cave]

[tawny sigil]

ez loss

[broken dagger]

Rascal's the best Pharah confirmed.

[visual glen]

Ever upward or downward today?

[dreamy cave]

[gaunt acorn]

so far 2/3 of my predictions today have been dead-accurate, score-wise (and 3/3 accurate in terms of winning team)

so following that, i predicted this game would go 1-2

[dreamy cave]

that barrage got a kill from that far away geez

[sterile fox]

really glad to see that libero is carrying so much that nenne can just do some dumb shit and get away with it

[dreamy cave]

lol

[sterile fox]

nIcE wAlL

[dreamy cave]

the sleep

[sterile fox]

jjonak

jjonak please

[inland pawn]

spark straight to Pepega tier after stage 3 lmao

[broken dagger]

Spark vs. Excelsior - Map 2 (Volskaya Industries) - Which of the following Support players will have the most healing done?

who did you guys pick?

I can't decide.

I'm thinking jjonak.

[sterile fox]

i’d say anamo

jjonak is flex support

[dreamy cave]

nah, jjonak plays flex, anamo 4 sure

[broken dagger]

alright.

[dreamy cave]

yeah see

[balmy wolf]

its the supports who play bap who'll get the most healing

[broken dagger]

thanks.

[balmy wolf]

Bap just out heals everyone besides moria in this meta

[broken dagger]

IDK only has 24m on Bap.

BEBE has none.

and 1h on Moira.

yeah Anamo.

[sterile fox]

has to be

the caster i swear to god

[inland frost]

Why the hell would you shoot a Dragonstrike through Amp Matrix?

The only thing that gets boosted is the Arrow that Dragonstrike fires

The actual Dragons don't get jack shit.

[tawny sigil]

wtffff

[dreamy cave]

i dont

[tawny sigil]

even?

[inland pawn]

Not Pepega tier yet

[dreamy cave]

i dont even know what happened

[tawny sigil]

me neither

[inland frost]

This tweet angers me because Sigma should be out by now.

Is he coming with Role queue beta league?

[tawny sigil]

then again its the NoutdateXL

[echo quest]

Is he coming after beta to comp

[balmy wolf]

If he isn't in beta comp, i'm sure he'd be in the next real season

[tawny sigil]

THE PROPHECY IS UPON US

[visual glen]

Ever downward

[tawny sigil]

alright time for some 3v3 while sideshow says some non sense

also im at 1555 lootboxes now... take that EA

[broken dagger]

Spark vs. Excelsior - Map 3 (Hollywood) - Which of the following Damage players will have the most solo kills?

who'd you pick?

[sterile fox]

don’t you just love halftime show

[visual glen]

10 minutes of snooze

[gaunt acorn]

nenne

i might ace 3/4 of my match score predictions today

[tawny sigil]

time for nyxl to be victim of the prophecy

[sterile fox]

if mano doesn’t get off hammond

there will be consequences

HOLY SWEET MOTHER OF JESUS

[dreamy cave]

that cut

[balmy wolf]

so clean

[sterile fox]

libero hard carry

[tawny sigil]

throwing

[dreamy cave]

my

[tawny sigil]

libero hard throw

[dreamy cave]

god

[sterile fox]

what in the fuck

[balmy wolf]

he just threw that genji blade in there to throw us off of him throwing

[broken dagger]

Spark vs. Excelsior - Map 4 (Junkertown) - Among active players this map, which of the following Tank players will have the fewest deaths?

who are guys you picking?

[sterile fox]

meko

[dreamy cave]

nyxl please

[tawny sigil]

that payload is on nitro

[gaunt acorn]

meko

[tawny sigil]

watch it happen

THE SHEE NAN

[visual glen]

Was that a c9 or a calculated boop

Didn't see

[tawny sigil]

boop with no hoop

can'T tell if nyxl is half korean half chinese team or if they're throwing

i want a kitkat now

easy map 5

[dreamy cave]

fucking thank you

[sinful rune]

No pine, no win, simple as that

Nenne is just worse

[tawny sigil]

pine is washed up

[dreamy cave]

stop

there both good

[sinful rune]

He really isn't, they just need to play him in scrims more so he actual gets time in the professional scene

So he can come back and dominate

He'd carry them to the win

And yeah they're both good

Nenne just isn't as good

:P

[fallow tide]

Why isn’t Pine being played?

[tawny sigil]

well that's what being washed up is

need to get back into the groove

[dreamy cave]

nenne is good. and idk why they havent played pine, probably beacuse of the meta. widow isnt always in play

[tawny sigil]

and they're clearly not letting him do that

[dreamy cave]

pine dosnt really play reaper. probably not as good as nenne

and ik he dosnt play mai

[sinful rune]

Needing to get back into the groove is the equivalent of being out of shape, being washed means you're donezo, you're past your prime.

I mean ... it's reaper, he can learn it quite easily

And they can play double sniper more often

[visual glen]

NY 📉

[tawny sigil]

you know who else is washed up

[visual glen]

Sandbag more

[sinful rune]

space is washed up

That's another one

[tawny sigil]

jjonak

[wide herald]

I never knew you could draw on junkertown

[dreamy cave]

that was pretty 9000iq by meko

[sinful rune]

Yeah I agree with that, jjonak hasn't been playing like he used to

[dreamy cave]

blocking the headsot on nenne

[sinful rune]

I haven't seen those big frags that I was used to on season 1

[tawny sigil]

jjonak is balding, im sure thats the problem

[visual glen]

"somewhat entertaining"

Even the casters know

[dreamy cave]

[sinful rune]

They need to add hero bans, and then mei reaper is fixed :p

Because the problem with meta in overwatch is there is very little room to work around it

There are never multiple viable metas at once

[tawny sigil]

lucio just seem so fucking useless

[dreamy cave]

then what would you ban for this map?

[molten skiff]

its almost 2AM EST

[sinful rune]

The only lucio players I've been impressed by are biggoose and the dude on vancouver, MAYBE neptuno as well

[molten skiff]

how is the game still going on

[sinful rune]

For this map I'd just ban mei

[visual glen]

Stuck in spawn for minutes lul

Washed

[dreamy cave]

there gonna get this

they have almost both support ults

[sinful rune]

I think if dive somehow came back we'd see the old jjonak get to frag again

[visual glen]

No point playing dive when you can just Orisa

[sinful rune]

i actually like dive, orisa is sorta braindead

I'd LOVE dive, I'd get to see guxue winston

and rein from other tanks

[dreamy cave]

@sinful rune why would you just ban mai? if ur going to put in hero bans if ur only going to ban 1 character?

[sinful rune]

@dreamy cave I assume since there aren't TOO many heroes taht each team gets 1 ban, so on my team I'd ban mei, whatever the other team bans is up to them. It'd probably be orisa though

[dreamy cave]

thats just trying to handycap a team

[visual glen]

I'd just ban Orisa since she's the thing that enables this sleeper meta the most

[sinful rune]

How so?

It wouldn't be handycapping at all

[dreamy cave]

it is if your preventing that team form playing a character.

[sinful rune]

Alright then just ban 1 hero and both teams have to agree upon the hero that is banned.

[visual glen]

Why does Monte always dress as though he's about to go on a pilgrimage to the mountains

[dreamy cave]

but i dont get why there HAS to be a ban?

when they can just not play that character to begin with

[sinful rune]

To prevent Meta from being too strong

[dapper lantern]

there doesn’t. hero bans in a game like ow is silly imo

[dreamy cave]

then there wouldnt be a meta

[forest raven]

Because he's a weeb @visual glen

[balmy wolf]

the problem with preventing a meta is thatt then you have no strategy at all

and if you ban orisa

then the next best tank becomes meta

and then people will ask for 2 hero bans etcetc

[tawny sigil]

more goats v goats

[sinful rune]

You see teams are FORCED to play the meta so they don't lose. hero bans would solve that

[balmy wolf]

ok so who would you ban

[dapper lantern]

the entire fundamental core is being able to switch heroes at any time, enabling that would go back on what they stated

[balmy wolf]

or who do you think would be banned #1

orisa right?

now all teams run rein

you didnt change anything

then people will ban rein

[sinful rune]

@dapper lantern 2-2-2 role lock already prevents that. It disabled creativity and multiple metas

[balmy wolf]

back to orisa

[sinful rune]

Rein wouldn't be banned'

[dapper lantern]

again, I disagree

[balmy wolf]

you cant claim something is disabling creativity and then ask for a literal ban on a hero

[dapper lantern]

^

[sinful rune]

Nobody ever complained about rein. it's orisa that was the issue

[balmy wolf]

also youre saying bans prevent meta

well tanks in general have always been op

in terms of importance

[sinful rune]

Most likely because there are so few of them

[dreamy cave]

so wait, why would no one ban rien?? especially if he became meta?

[balmy wolf]

not really

also yes why wouldnt people ban rein?

hes meta no?

[sinful rune]

Because nobody dislikes rein

[dapper lantern]

banning a hero just because you don’t like them isn’t the same as role lock, you can switch within that role. banning a hero for a match is just that, no one can pick them

[balmy wolf]

bans prevent meta?

ok so you want to ban what YOU dont like

[sinful rune]

People DISLIKE being halted, nobody ever complained about the 2,000 health rectangle

NOBODY dislikes rein

[balmy wolf]

again i reiterate people just want to play what they want to play rather than let people choose for themselves lol

locking creativity and forcing people down a set path is not fun

[sinful rune]

I mean...2-2-2

[balmy wolf]

yes people habe fun on rein but even i got bored of triple tank meta

[velvet scarab]

love this eye cancer

[balmy wolf]

hey i hated 2/2/2 lock too

still do

[sinful rune]

The goats meta was much more creative, you had people running triple-quad dps and stuff

[balmy wolf]

what

[sinful rune]

All these unique variations of goats

[balmy wolf]

what

how can something be a variation of something else and be unique lol

[dapper lantern]

Huh

[velvet scarab]

i advocate for both 2-2-2 and hero bans

do u hate me leggo

[sinful rune]

You added in 1 dps in the place of a dva and got a whole new comp

[dreamy cave]

look if it wasnt for goats, we wouldnt have gotten sombra goats. what would u do if teams started banning sombra so they had to play goats? teams that are doing better now would be hard stuck in losses.

[balmy wolf]

no who else am i gonna hang out with in florida

[echo quest]

Hero bans would do nothing

Ban orisa

[dapper lantern]

thank you

[velvet scarab]

true

[echo quest]

Rein become meta

[balmy wolf]

i mean or nerf her but yes

[tawny sigil]

team would just ban the same fucking hero all the time and you know its

its pointless

[dapper lantern]

this isn’t r6

[sinful rune]

Ban Orisa, rein becomes meta FUCKING LEAVE IT THAT WAY

[echo quest]

No

[balmy wolf]

look i understand what youre saying

but you have the dumbest way of going about it

[velvet scarab]

would rein even be meta at that point

[balmy wolf]

no

[velvet scarab]

if orisa was non existent

[balmy wolf]

itd be ball

[velvet scarab]

yeah lmao

[balmy wolf]

basically he just wants whatever he thinks is the best to play

[velvet scarab]

im fine with ball dive over bunker

[balmy wolf]

when in reality most main tanks enjoy playing winston the most lol

[echo quest]

That’s faxxx

[balmy wolf]

not ball

[sinful rune]

Winston is awesome

I love watching guxue

[velvet scarab]

winston

[balmy wolf]

forcing people to play shit that you think is fun

is the exact reason you think 2/2/2 lock is bad

i hope you understand the irony

[tawny sigil]

prophecy is averted

[sinful rune]

Just ban orisa, then stop. No tank enjoys playing orisa, except for 1 or 2 weirdos

[velvet scarab]

2-2-2 is healthy for the game

there are cons

[dapper lantern]

I do

[velvet scarab]

but the pros outweigh the cons

[echo quest]

@sinful rune got a source?

[dreamy cave]

well im a wierdo cuz i like orisa

[velvet scarab]

making it standardized

[dreamy cave]

my name aint tank tastic for no reason

[balmy wolf]

also my favorite bit is that for the first 3 months of goats people kept bitching and complaining about goats being braindead

without realizing

hey

maybe

we can

learn new aspects of this comp

[tawny sigil]

watch stage 1 and 2 and jerf off i guess

[dreamy cave]

it ws because of goats, that ppl learned to flex to sombra

n then ppl got mad about sombra

[balmy wolf]

bc even now in scrims theres different comps being run, reaper mei or pharmacy doom or sombra dva

[echo quest]

Suprised nobody tried EM’s comp against goats

[sinful rune]

Orisa is a braindead hero, most main tanks don't enjoy it. Muma does, maybe one or two more, but most of them don't like playing orisa

[balmy wolf]

youve asked every single main tank player?

[dapper lantern]

huh

[sinful rune]

I've seen every single maintank player denounce orisa.

[echo quest]

Brain dead that’s an opinion lmao

[dapper lantern]

what

no you haven’t lmao

[echo quest]

You contradicted yourself

[balmy wolf]

ok so every single maon tank player in overwatch youve seen denounce orisa?

[dapper lantern]

You just said most

[echo quest]

You just said muma likes Orisa

[visual glen]

main tanks are masochists

[sinful rune]

On stream, on clips, one place or anything

[dapper lantern]

get this guy off of here

[balmy wolf]

you went to every single person in overwatch that plays main tank?

[dreamy cave]

just because everyone YOU know dosnt like orisa, dosnt mean others dont as well

[echo quest]

It’s your opinion

[balmy wolf]

you cant force your ideologies on people lmao

[dapper lantern]

2 people just said they liked Orisa

[balmy wolf]

your random opinion no one really cares about really shouldnt be just thrown onto pro play lmao

[sinful rune]

Sweetheart, I'm talking about OWL maintanks

[echo quest]

Bbruh

[balmy wolf]

you know theres more players than OWLs right?

[velvet scarab]

[dapper lantern]

🤔

[sullen depot]

OOF

[echo quest]

This dude lmao

[dapper lantern]

thank god ny in other news

[dreamy cave]

[balmy wolf]

muma likes it
every single one denounced it

[sinful rune]

"Esports channel", not here to talk about other players

[balmy wolf]

choose one

[dreamy cave]

never doubted

[balmy wolf]

so youre saying hero bans for owl only?

because thats even stupider

[echo quest]

Hero bans would be dumb as shit

Legit dumbass idea

[sinful rune]

I'm saying start there, because 2-2-2 was in OWL before it's in the main game

[dapper lantern]

that’s

[balmy wolf]

thats because... main game... has a.. ranking.. and matchmaking... system

[dapper lantern]

carolina reaper pepper hot take level there

[dreamy cave]

2-2-2 is technically a meta.

[sinful rune]

Yes ... so .. take the time ... to work it ... into the system ... properly...

[balmy wolf]

i mean they are

[echo quest]

2-2-2 is actually really smart for OWL gives more job security toward pros

[balmy wolf]

thats why its...

not out yet

????

[forest raven]

Jjonak

[balmy wolf]

and theres a whole 2 week open beta?

[dapper lantern]

it’s literally in beta, what do you want them to do, instalaunch it

[balmy wolf]

and a whole ptr beta for it too???

i mean 2/2/2 implementation in owl is literally just

hey dont pick more or less than 2 of one role

[sinful rune]

That's the complete opposite of what I just said, I'm not saying for 2-2-2, I'm saying for bans. Nobody really asked for a 2-2-2 lock but we got it anyways, don't be surprised if we see hero bans.

[dapper lantern]

what was that interview

[dreamy cave]

im not against role lock. because most teams have role lock set to 2-2-2 when their recruiting.

[balmy wolf]

im pretty sure a lot of people asked for 2/2/2 lol

Dude alot of people were arguing for a role lock even before OWL.

[dreamy cave]

even in high gm n masters they play 2-2-2

[sinful rune]

For the main game yeah

[dapper lantern]

who is nobody

[dreamy cave]

cuz it works

[sinful rune]

Not for OWL

[dapper lantern]

are you saying you did

[balmy wolf]

Role lock was the next thing after hero lock.

[dapper lantern]

bruh

[echo quest]

Hero bans are dumb won’t get added

[sinful rune]

If not to OWL then at least to the main game eventually, just perma ban sombra

[balmy wolf]

LOL

[echo quest]

Why?

[dreamy cave]

now that owl is done i need to go watch the episode of one piece

[velvet scarab]

why do you think they are so dumb

i actually want to have a discussion

[sinful rune]

There are always heroes people would rather not play against

[velvet scarab]

bc i dont really see a problem with it

[sinful rune]

Same here

[velvet scarab]

i just want to hear the reasoning against it

[echo quest]

@velvet scarab read up

[velvet scarab]

so i can see from all point of views

[dapper lantern]

it doesn’t make sense in this kind of game, realistically

[balmy wolf]

So add hero bans cause people bitch about certain heros because their oppressive to a certain degree?

[velvet scarab]

thats too hard man

[sinful rune]

I mean it makes complete sense

[velvet scarab]

i imagine its something about restricting creativity

thats usually the argument

[echo quest]

People bitching about heroes is a reason to add bans lmao

[sinful rune]

You que for comp, get a game, "Hey team, what's a hero that makes the game not fun for you?"

[balmy wolf]

check this shit out

[echo quest]

Ok and?

[balmy wolf]

im gonna blow your mind

[velvet scarab]

i want to add it just to spice up the game

[balmy wolf]

if you dont enjoy playing comp

[sinful rune]

Ban that shit so you have fun

[balmy wolf]

dont play comp

ho shit

fuckin mamma mia

[dreamy cave]

yeah, theres characts ppl wouldnt want to play against. but not learning how to deal with them is just your fault as a player not being able to outdo the other team

[velvet scarab]

i dont really bitch about heroes

just would be nice to see different heroes played on different maps

[balmy wolf]

if youre incapable of learning how to play against/with a hero then you really shouldnt be in a team environment

[echo quest]

Imagine banning a hero because you can’t counter it lmao

[sinful rune]

Ok @balmy wolf que for quickplay "Hey team, what's a hero that makes the gameplay experience negative for you?"

[dapper lantern]

truth

[sinful rune]

ban the hero

[balmy wolf]

i mean in qp it doesnt matter anyway

just play whatever

[dapper lantern]

that’s a cheap way out

idc

[velvet scarab]

who said anything about not being able to counter a hero 😡

[balmy wolf]

you shouldnt be taking it seriously to begin with lol

[sinful rune]

No it does matter, role lock in qp now lol

[balmy wolf]

You must be a shit player to actually whine about characters being negative to play against

[echo quest]

So play qp classis

[dapper lantern]

“hey we can’t deal with this person so ban it”

[balmy wolf]

yeah we know bc people like you think locking creativity is a good thing lol

Git gud

^

[echo quest]

Fax

[sinful rune]

People would plain out jsut enjoy that in the ladder

[echo quest]

Says who?

[balmy wolf]

and who are you to say that lok

[sinful rune]

Everyone in gm would just ban sombra and all of our favorite players wouldn't quit

[dapper lantern]

who is people

[balmy wolf]

Git gud and stop whining because you counter pick properly

[dapper lantern]

who is everyone

[dreamy cave]

there dosnt need to be a role lock in quickplay, but for sure in competitive

[balmy wolf]

you sound like the people who begged for role lock

[dapper lantern]

you just like to phrase these statements when it’s usually just you

[velvet scarab]

i just want to see different comps

[echo quest]

This dude making some bullshit out here

[balmy wolf]

also @dreamy cave i disagree bc then that makes it harder for peoplento go from qp -> comp

[echo quest]

Also there is qp classic

[balmy wolf]

i believe that the experience should be the same all across the board from qp -> comp

bc then it makes it more consistent for people climbing the ladder

[dapper lantern]

I respect that

a lot

[balmy wolf]

i.e. if you add some dumbass rule like hero bans in owl only

cough

then people in t3 or contenders wouldnt be able to keep up with that

[sinful rune]

It would be nice in the main game as well

[balmy wolf]

bc theyd have to focus on winning in contenders than adapting to hero bans

locking

[velvet scarab]

add it to all

[balmy wolf]

creativity

isnt

[echo quest]

You prolly think reaper op lmao

[balmy wolf]

a good

idea

[sinful rune]

Nobody likes playing against sombra, adding sombra to the game was a mistake and this would fix that mistake

[dapper lantern]

WHO IS NOBODY

[balmy wolf]

I mean shes literally not played anymore

[dreamy cave]

^

[velvet scarab]

sombra wouldnt even be banned every game

[balmy wolf]

himself

[echo quest]

@sinful rune I hate Doomfist but I don’t bitch about it when I get smashed into a wall

[balmy wolf]

@sinful rune then you're shit against playing sombra and you get better playing around her then

[dapper lantern]

Just say “I don’t”