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#esports-discussion
night tusk
tropic herald
Let’s go Winston Dva GOATs with Gengi and tracer
pearl stratus
That's still dive, don't be a smooth brain.
quasi stump
profit lol
tropic herald
No it’s GOATs :)
trim shadow
nice ult stitch
visual glen
💤
dapper lantern
well
tropic herald
Everything is GOATs variations
dapper lantern
yikes
night tusk
so gc busan vs runaway 
visual glen
Titans playing so bad
gaunt acorn
pearl stratus
Both teams aren't great at this.
willow moon
This is the London that won the last tournament
trim shadow
funny titans dps went from scary to teddy bear withinh a fucking week
willow moon
Not whatever happened with Florida 
pearl stratus
So I'm expecting minimum variation out of Goats, when Titans should be playing a modified dive instead.
pearl stratus
In fairness Mayhem are better than Vancouver at this right now.
night tusk
because titans rekt on genji. than some coach said. noooo play reaper mei instead of heroes you good in. and now they are losing
tropic herald
Titans should just play Gengi
pearl stratus
Vancouver = 3:3 Goats Good, 2/2/2 Goats = Bad.
orchid harbor
just play genji 
tropic herald
It’s been proven multiple times that playing what you play best works better than meta
tawny sigil
goats at its core is the comp of creation... so anything you make IS a variatrion of goats... everything is right in the universe
night tusk
^
trim shadow
laughs in chengdu
pearl stratus
I mean not always.
little silo
yeah dude theres no reason for them not to run this comp. That OWL head coach who made them win stage 1 and go winless for a long time is so stupid lawl dude
trim shadow
fuck the meta
willow moon
Titans are at the top of the leaderboard tho
pearl stratus
But with this stage being a complete and utter throwaway
trim shadow
head coaches this year have been ass
willow moon
So they did something right up to now
tropic herald
Crusty has been good imo
pearl stratus
Literally Stage 4 is worth absolutely nothing
It's garbage bullshit.
Because there's another patch before Grand Finals.
So don't overcommit to anything.
willow moon
O
tropic herald
Sandbagging time
little silo
im just here for the playoff implications
pearl stratus
It's why I said Vancouver should play modified dive with Genji.
Because a.) They don't have to care this stage.
b.) Shit might change for Finals, so forcing Mei Reaper doesn't mean it'll matter in a month
little silo
maybe a sigma meta
little silo
but ult changes and all the role lock changes will hit
trim shadow
theres no winners in this situation
pearl stratus
Doubt it, personally. I think people will use him, but he's still too new and too technical.
orchid harbor
Sigma has no place in any meta
trim shadow
oh yea ult charges slower now
pearl stratus
You can run him in place of Hog and make a really bullshit comp
tropic herald
People said that brig had no place in a meta but here we are
trim shadow
the main thing about sigma is the ult..and accreation
pearl stratus
And it starts getting real dumb.
little silo
with matrix every 13 seconds
tropic herald
Dva and Sigma are pretty different
trim shadow
dva has the wider range ...so like imagine dva and sigma
the problem is zarya synergies better
night tusk
so who voted MVP for a benched player ?
willow moon
Jjanu?
tropic herald
Super and Sinatraa riding the bench
pearl stratus
Neither have been riding the bench, they've been rotating them pretty consistently.
Because the Koreans they have provide no leadership.
They don't play every map, but they both end up on the stage in every game so far.
tropic herald
Honestly NYXL should just throw Pine in and see what happens
night tusk
sucks on KOTH and won this point
willow moon
Is gud
tawny sigil
was that a ball mouse??
night tusk
they might take the full match
willow moon
😛
pearl stratus
Same thing that happens when they throw Flower in.
They lose that map.
Helen Keller can see why playing Pine isn't useful.
tropic herald
Well you never know if you don’t go
balmy wolf
I imagine pine is getting sold to another team next season
night tusk
just play pine so he can one trick reaper aswell
pearl stratus
I imagine Pine hype comes from two well played maps and an okay Stage 4 last year. That's it.
willow moon
And memes
pearl stratus
He also has a style that distinctly really only works with Mano.
night tusk
I did watch his stream last time. he can play reaper for sure. .... but just play mccree widow 
pearl stratus
Beyond that people are smooth brain and over think it.
Anything on ladder you watch on a stream is worth less than dog shit.
It's ladder.
pearl stratus
iRemix was ranked #1 on Ladder.
night tusk
I like that pine legit played on all stars while he did not even play this full season. the fans forced him to play lol
pearl stratus
Thats how little ladder matters.
little silo
yeah NY that Top 6 team sucks completely
willow moon
I mean they kinda do
pearl stratus
NY is in the same bind as a lot of teams. They have good dps that don't fit the puzzle well for what DPS you need right now.
dapper lantern
again though
trim shadow
i have new york at 13 in my power rankings
pearl stratus
Because you want to be able to play a Mei / Reaper for now.
willow moon
NY lacks oomph
trim shadow
hell even jjonak is looking burnt
dapper lantern
does it really matter right now?
pearl stratus
The second that changes, it all swaps around again.
tropic herald
Power rankings kinda suck rn
little silo
power rankings after last week are a mess
pearl stratus
Like you can praise Washington right now.
echo quest
Cwoosh is a hype man feelsbadman
pearl stratus
But they could literally win every game, suck everyones dicks, and jerk off the audience.
Tehy're still not making Grand Finals.
So who cares.
tawny sigil
stitch looking traumatised as usual
trim shadow
put nenne in win depending on which side of the bed nenne woke up on
quasi stump
my god those reaper stats
echo quest
Seeing mayhem regularly land halt hook is pog
trim shadow
walled the dva
night tusk
https://twitter.com/LogixOW/status/1159604852764418051 I want that bottle
tropic herald
Thanks Mr Logix
upper niche
Holy Shit OWL bring back the bloody scoreboard
tawny sigil
no stage final, no point
pearl stratus
Thankfully this meta is only a stage long then the season ends.
upper niche
This league picks UI is sooooo shit.
little silo
genji sombra huh
upper niche
@tawny sigil No, the match scoreboard.
pearl stratus
Because people who wanted to praise 2/2/2 can point out that viewership hasn't gone up at all because a bunker meta is bullshit that people wanted to watch less than 3:3 Goats
night tusk
GC BUSAN VS RUNAWAY
little silo
dude we get it
trim shadow
its like
little silo
you said that its gc busan vs runaway like 4 times
tropic herald
Blizz better nerf Orisa a little more bc that shield nerf isn’t getting rid of her
trim shadow
precisely
little silo
im just here because I dont have anything else to do
dapper lantern
metas and patches can aid but people ultimately have the final decision
trim shadow
the normies baby boomers are some of the reason the viewship would spike then go back down to someone who watches every game like me
willow moon
Easy peasy
pearl stratus
It's not that simply put, because you can't rush into stupid shit not realizing that the new shit is as bad as the old shit.
tropic herald
The ATL and Washington game is gonna be the best game of the stage
little silo
and maybe for playoff implications
tropic herald
That’s weird to say
pearl stratus
2/2/2 Goats is worse to watch than 3/3 Goats.
dapper lantern
To you
upper niche
@dapper lantern You mean people who want OWL tokens will leave it idle in the background.
pearl stratus
To... pretty much everyone considering it didn't shift viewership at all.
dapper lantern
I watch, I rarely leave it unless I fell asleep
pearl stratus
You can't replace horseshit with dogshit.
dapper lantern
whatever
little silo
i leave it because of my timezone
upper niche
I mean it's on while I'm at work so I can't really pay much attention.
dapper lantern
it’s really not a big deal but
this is the complain channel where no matter what the league does, no one will be happy
upper niche
9am to 3pm Friday and Saturday, 5am to 12pm-ish Sunday and Monday.
pearl stratus
It actually does matter, because you're seeing the changes potentially coming in next year for teams to remove a lot of financial burden because of potential failure of the system.
pearl stratus
How many people do you think are going to continue to hemorrhage into retirement if organizations no longer pay for housing, etc, etc.
upper niche
Meh, I have no problem with the game balnace for the most part. A few tweaks here and there might be nice, but mostly I think it's fine, people will always bitch that their favorite hero isn't powerful enough and that their worst counter to play that hero is too powerful.
dapper lantern
then let the league decide that, some people enjoy watching regardless of what happened with metas
upper niche
Game balance is nothing compared to community behavior and bugs in the game.
pearl stratus
I'm just saying you can be ignorant if you want to, but problems are problems and your fix (while a good fix for ladder) has not improved your league at all so far.
dapper lantern
okay
sullen berry
Hello there 👋
upper niche
@pearl stratus Oh boo hoo, the situation where teams pay for housing when they're living locally is absurd to begin with.
dapper lantern
you don’t have to argue with everyone that slightly disagrees with you
trim shadow
only team that is likely todo that is boston
seeing as how the kraft org is acting currently
i think shanghai is building a esports complex
for all there teams
pearl stratus
Wait so you're pro that the players should be responsible for their own housing for Season 3 and beyond?
Interesting.
little silo
some cities have insanely expensive housing
trim shadow
team houses have proved to always help teams synergize better
allows them to hang get to know each other
eat dinner together
yada yada yada
upper niche
Ultimately teams will use it as a mechanism of attracting better players to come work for them, just like any other employer does. If players think they get a better deal in their contract, then they'll consider that.
night tusk
night tusk
they won the first push if gesture did not wake up stitch
pearl stratus
Housing will become a major point of contract negotion, thats not even a question.
Or else no one will play for San Fran lmao
upper niche
@trim shadow Absolutely. There's advantages to doing it, it's a business decision. It's absurd that it's expected, but if a team sees it as a competitive advantage, then they should consider, evaluate and, if advantageous, implement it.
pearl stratus
Fuck that 2700 for a 2 bedroom bullshit.
wary falcon
little silo
i think those belong together
trim shadow
especially boston toronto and what not
in terms of roster moves
so i expect alot of the beast contenders talent to get moved up
the problem is does a american wants togo live in china?
pearl stratus
I know off the bat unless I'm making Decay money teams that you'd want to avoid end up being San Fran, Boston, LAV/LAG, potentially Philly though Philly can be reasonable, etc.
trim shadow
does a korean want to live in the frezzing hell that is boston
night tusk
what about the team chef and stuff. they all join the travels ?
upper niche
At this point it's debatable whether Houston will even remain in Houston.
little silo
seoul are in an insane position for the localization
trim shadow
its like all theese little ins and outs
then theres fan bases
how well does the org support players
player accomidations like housing medicare if thats a thing and money
pearl stratus
If the investor that was rumored is true, they were bought by a houston real estate guy.
So they're not going anywhere.
raw ermine
is picks not working for you guys?
trim shadow
the houston real estate guy is processing
raw ermine
I log in, and its says i am logged out
trim shadow
should be done by november i think
hes a investor
my problem is how will he invest
pearl stratus
Yeah I don't see him taking the team out of Houston, his life is Houston.
echo quest
If I played for Vancouver and had to pay for my housing. I would leave the team
pearl stratus
All the other stuff he does, etc, etc.
echo quest
Housing is expensive af
pearl stratus
I mean it depends on how much they pay you.
trim shadow
san fransicso is bat shit expensive
its the most expensive city to live among the teams
upper niche
@echo quest lol, imagine having a team based out of Melbourne or Sydney
pearl stratus
My intelligent guess is that most teams, which aren't utterly fucking stupid (so like.. Boston/Mayhem) will just adjust salaries to account for rent.
trim shadow
is it NRG thats over san fransicso?
upper niche
We just consider it normal, it's what we've all grown up with.
echo quest
@pearl stratus Vancouver is ranked NA’s 2nd lead affordable city
pearl stratus
@upper niche West coast US is insanely worse.
trim shadow
i hope there ready to fucking spend some cash trying to relocate and get a stadium
night tusk
profit doom
trim shadow
especially since the stadiums in san fransicso are booty
upper niche
Not really. Seattle and SanFran are, but that's about it. Vancouver's about the same as Sydney.
pearl stratus
There's parts of the west coast where households making less than $125,000 a year are considered low income/poor.
little silo
6 ults great
trim shadow
liberal politics
pearl stratus
Imagine making $110k a year and being considered poor.
trim shadow
not even gonna dive into like what downtown san fransicso is appernalty like
upper niche
@pearl stratus Australia is going that way. >80k is both the average and median salary. It's getting ridiculous.
trim shadow
theyll show you the beautiful skyline but wont show the trash that walks the streets
sullen berry
@gaunt acorn do Titans already have a place in Vancouver for home games?
trim shadow
they should
pearl stratus
Yeah but we're already there, granted California is utterly stupid when it comes to real estate.
gaunt acorn
the canucks venue
pearl stratus
But poverty level being over 6 figures is just baffling.
sullen berry
but they do have one
upper niche
Cali at least has variation.
trim shadow
what how
upper niche
Sorry, LA has variation. SanFran is just a shitshow.
pearl stratus
I'd want to play for Houston/Dallas lol
sullen berry
y'all never heard of Aqualini Group
trim shadow
was about to say..most of the rest of california doesnt exist outside of la san fran and silicon valley
pearl stratus
You can manage acceptable priced real estate, good internet and enough culture variation.
echo quest
Fucking golden state warrior players don’t live in the inner city
trim shadow
teams thatll benefit the most from localization is houston dallas atlanta philly seoul
i cant speak on the chineese teams
little silo
gesture come on
upper niche
TBH I can't imagine wanting to live in any American city ;D
gaunt acorn
@sullen berry did you mean playing, or staying?
little silo
nice gesture
gaunt acorn
they play at rogers arena for the homestand
trim shadow
well someone did say netease was building esports park for shanghai..i have no confirmation tho
upper niche
America is fine for a bit of a cultural holiday... but fuck living there, even playing for an OWL team.
trim shadow
the only city where you dont wanna live if ur on a owl team
tawny sigil
The prophecy!
little silo
why
night tusk
aww bumper laughing again
pearl stratus
I mean everywhere is shit, really.
pearl stratus
You go to Kangaroo Fuckboi land and you get the old Wheat Board shit, etc.
balmy wolf
Did any of you guys actually read that memo about the player housing situation?
pearl stratus
Everywhere is fucked.
trim shadow
chengdu and guangzhou are question marks
balmy wolf
This match is actualy really good
pearl stratus
I did, it'll turn into contract negotiation tactics
upper niche
I mean I could live in Santa Monica or maybe upper East Hollywood, or Anaheim if it was right opposite the park... but otherwise yeah, couldn't see myself living in LA.
willow moon
What’s up with the housing tho, can anyone fill me in?
trim shadow
could be wrong last i checked everyone in chengdu was slightly obeese
pearl stratus
It's to give organizations an out on some of their economic burden, but its the wrong part of it.
balmy wolf
So guys titans or london
dreamy cave
damn
balmy wolf
upper niche
@willow moon Currently teams do it out of goodwill/business smarts.
dreamy cave
how much did i miss
willow moon
Thanks!!
pearl stratus
BAsically teams will only be required to provide housing for 90 days, and assist over 90 day players with finding housing.
upper niche
THe "housing requirement" hasn't changed. The requirement was always that you have to pay for housing when people are living away from home. Currently all teams except the two LA teams are considered "Living away from home".
trim shadow
ah so teams have to provide housing for 3 months and then if they decide to get the fuck out the house
dreamy cave
is this the first match of the day??
pearl stratus
Whether that becomes financial assistance, etc, etc. will be different, and it'll mostly be part of contract negotiations.
echo quest
Luxury tax is smart tho
dreamy cave
or did i miss alot?
pearl stratus
Luxury tax is typically bullshit.
Because Luxury tax was also originally leaked as potentially a salary cap.
trim shadow
i think someone in atlanta cord talked about cox buildiing Sports parks or buildings in foreign coutries so teams can have luxury everywhere they go
pearl stratus
Where if players made over [x] you just taxed the fuck out of the teams.
upper niche
It's no different to traveling on a business trip. If my work wants me to go to an event in Sydney or anywhere away from Melbourne, they pay travel and accommodation. OWL next year will be no different.
trim shadow
alongside the Housing in atlanta
upper niche
And in the same token, they are not obligated to pay my housing in Melbourne. Just as OWL teams shouldn't when they're employing players.
echo quest
Carpe makes 180k
little silo
alright wolf
pearl stratus
If you wanted to pay someone more than 350k you could, but the league would tax the shit out of you.
night tusk
Wolf
trim shadow
bosotn will definetly not offer housing
upper niche
And why should they?
little silo
GC Busan wave and runaway
trim shadow
but then again..if the luxury tax is a thing
doesnt that mean players will get paid more
to be on the team?
echo quest
No
pearl stratus
No
trim shadow
could it be like close to NFL levels of contracts
echo quest
Because then the teams have to pay more tax
upper niche
Players are offered a salary. That salary is supposed to cover their personal expenses. If players think the deal of housing not being included in their contract, or that Boston don't see housing people together provides a competitive advantage, that's a decision they should be free to make.
night tusk
Woohyal
echo quest
Where would the tax go tho?
pearl stratus
League costs.
echo quest
Ah
echo quest
In the nba the luxury tax is redistributed to non tax teams
trim shadow
technically philly has the richest org
so they could afford a 375k salary for someone like carpe
or alarm
pearl stratus
That doesn't happen till Season 4 of OWL, iirc.
little silo
alarm will have a juicy contract
upper niche
Season 1 teams already have a huge advantage over Season 2 teams.
echo quest
I would pay Eqo good money
trim shadow
eqo and carpe will definetly get resigned
pearl stratus
I think it was 3 years before profit sharing was enabled in OWL.
trim shadow
the rest are on the chopping block
upper niche
But franchises weren't sold at a level, even fee to the managers/'owners'. I use the term owners loosely.
echo quest
Bernar,Changsik,Alarm will all come to Philly
trim shadow
the only advantage season 1 teams have over season 2 teams is there players have played together longer
excluding boston shanghai and florida
upper niche
Remember that the two "we want in" teams paid as much as $50 and $60m to get their seat at the table.
little silo
and that their orgs arent new to this anymore
trim shadow
especially netease
last i checked netease has a net of 11.5 billion?
around comcast levels
sturdy river
I love how that ad just shoes the login screen
night tusk
!players titans
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
echo quest
@trim shadow not even close
night tusk
so tizi is not confirmed yet...
trim shadow
at this rate tizi is a 2020 signing
echo quest
Comcast revenue last year was 94.51 billion USD
upper niche
It'd be a bit shit if you can bring in a new player eligible to play the finals who hasn't played the majority of the season with the team.
visual glen
Stitch jumped into dragon 
echo quest
Profit is a fucking monster
tawny sigil
lol bumper dying 0.2 second before he got the kill on profit
dreamy cave
ok so spitfire are beating the mess out of titans
willow moon
Ya
balmy wolf
Honestly; rip all of Vancouver's efforts to be #1 seed
balmy wolf
ahhh yes, I love seeing overtuned heros in role lock
willow moon
Unfortunately London already knows to brace for him
dreamy cave
which low tier team beat spitfire not that long ago?
night tusk
funny enough the playoffs is with Sigma. so who knows who will be good on the playoffs
mayhem @dreamy cave
night tusk
b team on last map
sturdy river
I don't think sigma will have a huge effect on playoffs
dreamy cave
they look stronger now tho. fury seems to be doing great
willow moon
I wonder if he’ll be played much
night tusk
abusing orisa hog
dreamy cave
honestly i doubt it
willow moon
Since the players are much more used to (and trained with) the other heroes
sturdy river
I'm no expert, but sigma just doesn't seem to fit into any good comps
night tusk
remember when mercy could ress 2 players
dreamy cave
i doubt it, i think he might get ran over by other comps
sturdy river
He also seems easily counterable
balmy wolf
Sigma and zarya are a strong tank duo
dreamy cave
if anything he would be used for his ult i guess. and if your playing quickplay with a all dps team maybe
sweet shell
Remember when mercy could res everyone 
night tusk
Remember when roadhog could one shot? oh wait he does that again
dreamy cave
what if they changed his kit before he even came out
clear crane
oh wow london up
upper niche
@sweet shell Bring it back!
sweet shell
Ok I'll try
clear crane
Titans GOATS one trick team!
willow moon
Yeah no one said that here before
clear crane
yup im the first
upper niche
Remember when Mercy could super-jump? Oh right, she's always been able to do that, it's just that people are finally learning that you need to practice and perfect it as part of normal gameplay not an edge case you might use once every 10 games.
balmy wolf
actually their an extremely good dive team as well
upper niche
What is this mirror comp meta? 😦
tawny sigil
wolf and achillios are not on avast stream, so im guessing they're gonna show up after this
night tusk
clear crane
these hooks are insane
tawny sigil
that picture... so dum its dunny
night tusk
https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1159587091149402112 this could hurt overwatch aswell.. damn..
upper niche
Oh FFS
echo quest
GC Busan still undefeated against runaway pog champ
dreamy cave
that was a cute wall off on twilight
upper niche
Could the American right have any more shit for brains with the complete and utter bullshit they come up with to blame anything but the real cause of shit like this? What kind of non-functioning brain do you need to blame video games for shootings?
night tusk
omg that dragon strike
tawny sigil
4k ... never seen before
willow moon
Lmaoooooo
south brook
Lol poor titans
sturdy river
Kills with dragons LUL
clear crane
is this the frist time london vs van
echo quest
For some reason they always blame it on mental illness. Some people are just fucked
night tusk
@upper niche slasher did a good interview on Fox news and Yahoo news defending games. you should check his twitter
upper niche
Yeah, I know him 😃
echo quest
The dude is getting the death penalty
night tusk
I did share this but lets not talk to much about politics guys :p
echo quest
It was in Texas
upper niche
@night tusk Yeah, let's just not talk about the shit that's fucking things up everywhere, surrounding us, and affecting everything in a negative way in ways it shouldnt :/
clear crane
whose the best hog in the league
tawny sigil
roaghog
night tusk
youngjin ?
clear crane
nice
willow moon
Lmao go home Titans
upper niche
I'd love to know what the score of this match is. It's be a grand fucking shame if the UI told me that :/
tawny sigil
well they want you to pay for that
clear crane
this season its between choi and jjanu
dreamy cave
honestly, idk who would be the best. i think younjin and fury are up there just off of there hook accuracy outside of the halt hook combo.
clear crane
Fury lagging just by a bit
upper niche
@tawny sigil lol, what the actual fuck? Funny thing is, I was actually planning to sub to AllAccess before they replaced the UI with this current crap.
tawny sigil
doesnt all access pass show you the score for each player
dreamy cave
jjanu i dont think is that good. he seems a bit averagge as well
clear crane
if we are talking just season alone
upper niche
For each player? I just want the match score always visible like it used to show.
clear crane
jjanu is top 2 with choi
night tusk
top 2 with choi? you guys forgat xepher ?
tawny sigil
you mean map score?
clear crane
if we talk about overall overall, i still put fury 1
echo quest
GCB still undefeated against runaway two years later lul
upper niche
@tawny sigil Yes. But at this point I'd settle for the current match score being shown at all times not just when the video has gameplay to put the overlay ojn.
tawny sigil
is it that important to see it during breaks?
dreamy cave
i need a list of all the hog players cuz i cant remember them off the top of my head
night tusk
we all know the best off tank is mickie but he is benched because it would be unfair for all others 
tawny sigil
gregory
tawny sigil
i dont pay attention to views too much
night tusk
people watch more often on saturday or sunday
but OWL is kinda the same daily. with 2020 home games it might be more fun to watch.
clear crane
im worried it burns out players more
with all the travel
these guys are still mainly 18-20
dreamy cave
does trans do less healing?
night tusk
I think dallas home games for example or ATL have motivated the players (and everyone else) to make this steps and ofcourse there will be mistakes but they will learn from it.
dreamy cave
no i mean, is it less healing over time than it used to be?
clear crane
oh not sure on tat
tawny sigil
RIP
night tusk
WTF
tawny sigil
damn
dreamy cave
bruhh
clear crane
not surprised
night tusk
please no map 5
tawny sigil
titan had no business coming back from that
sturdy river
spitfire needs to win now because i doubt they'll win control
native sage
holy shit that clutch
dreamy cave
they took to long to kill ball
willow moon
Damn I didn’t think that could be possible
tired anvil
what was that choke
clear crane
home games will be great for the home teams
but for everyone else its def gonna burn them out
esp if they travel overseas a lot
echo quest
That wasn’t even a clutch that was a fucking choke
clear crane
yea straight choke
trim shadow
@clear crane read the article
native sage
it was a bit of both i would say
night tusk
sacrifice needs to be made for big changes
clear crane
wat u mean everything
night tusk
but we all know this for longer than a year. teams might have prepared well for travels
tawny sigil
welll there is your map 5
night tusk
clear crane
ahhh lodon choke
upper niche
lol what?
willow moon
Classic feckin London
upper niche
This is like Philly vs NYXL Stage 2 finals all over again
clear crane
uhhh how did haksal live tat long
night tusk
bumper realized that playing rein is just better
dreamy cave
YOOOO
clear crane
no ults
vestal ruin
TITANS!
visual glen
london flipped on the pepega switch
sturdy river
echo quest
What a fucking garbage team
dreamy cave
vestal ruin
upper niche
Remember... these are both teams that lost to Shanghai Dragons 😛
echo quest
Legit brain dead
clear crane
but those dragons beat everyone
balmy wolf
and titans shit on the dragons in the rematch
upper niche
@clear crane sssh ;p
dreamy cave
whats that supposed to mean? the dragons are doing great?
clear crane
willow moon
They ain’t tho
echo quest
Shanghai aren’t lmao
raw ermine
What is the website that shows owl pick rates for characters? Also lmfao spitfire
upper niche
@dreamy cave TBF the SHD d LDN loss was at the start of the season.
dreamy cave
there better than they been last year so i feel thats great enough
clear crane
Looks like they didnt really need RoaR and Decay
although they can really use Decay rn
dreamy cave
they cant do the halt hook combo
echo quest
2nd in contenders
clear crane
KDP minus the star dps and still doing good haha
trim shadow
london hanging out in nyxl's team house
tawny sigil
clear crane
time to move atl academy to korea contenders
tawny sigil
attacking team has x2 damage on overtime... everyone knows that
night tusk
I cant believe how this is going
dreamy cave
willow moon
This is insane
tawny sigil
nerf
raw ermine
yes titans
dreamy cave
profit and gesture just cant dodge hooks
sturdy river
I don't see spitfire winning this control, but I hope I'm wrong
night tusk
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBfKTTNWwAAlxIR.jpg:large lol those editing skills from the community
echo quest
@clear crane and come dead last in Korea. But actual competition
clear crane
i wouldnt be surprsied if they went 0-0-28 in maps lol
echo quest
Imagine if London had Philly’s map 5 clutchness
tawny sigil
Stage 4, record breaking stage
night tusk
bumper 5Head for playing rein
dreamy cave
this sucks but titans won it
trim shadow
yep
atlanta will go 7-0
get the 6th spot
hangzhou and london will tumble back into play ins
unless godsb and adorra activate ultra instinct
clear crane
how is london gonan choke this this time
tawny sigil
SHEEE NANNN!!!
clear crane
LMFAOOOO
visual glen
LETTER NUMBER
inland pawn
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
night tusk
what do people mean with "textbook"
dreamy cave
balmy wolf
a real c9, not a platchat c9
balmy wolf
oh look. overtime
dreamy cave
wow
visual glen
Season 1 champions btw
dreamy cave
okay
balmy wolf
LOL
night tusk
awww
clear crane
trash
night tusk
so cute
feral wing
LMAO
gaunt acorn
gg!
tawny sigil
the last map was a total choke
echo quest
This team is fucking pepega
feral wing
LONDON ARE THROWING
gaunt acorn
inland pawn
london spitting water again smh
raw ermine
they are so happy lol
trim shadow
thank you london
echo quest
Shock would roll both teams
trim shadow
youve given atlanta a chance at the 6th spot
rapid locust
who owns that map more, pine or slime?
balmy wolf
titans loooking like they just won the playoffs
tawny sigil
The prophecy is true!
uneven wren
i'm watching titans discord chat and i'm shaking without watching the game
dreamy cave
pine
mental estuary
Bumper just looked so damn happy
uneven wren
i can feel the intensity from that chat
dreamy cave
wait
echo quest
Titans will get a beat down in 2 weeks
dreamy cave
did titans lose to the justice?
balmy wolf
yes
rapid locust
yes
dreamy cave
i thought they played shock
willow moon
Nothing makes sense anymore
rapid locust
upsets everywhere
tawny sigil
up is down goats is goats
rapid locust
and goats is dead
willow moon
GOats
rapid locust
GoAtS
night tusk
no semmler and hex please
tawny sigil
well everyone is calling mei reaper goats
night tusk
no semmler and hex PLEASE
tawny sigil
wolf and achillios should be next
they aren't on avast stream, they normal are when they aren't on
uneven wren
every day we pray for no semmler and hex
feral wing
how does london manage to lose
they threw that series on route 66 last fight round 2
tawny sigil
sexxler
uneven wren
but of course they have to cast
balmy wolf
my god titans
tawny sigil
they choked so hard on well
balmy wolf
that clutch factor is still there
night tusk
uneven wren
that's walmart for ya
willow moon
Lol
balmy wolf
vice
willow moon
Why is it here tho
rapid locust
welcome to WaLmArT
tawny sigil
politian pointing fingers at video game because the gun association is paying them to do so, nothing new here
feral wing
ive never really noticed, why do people dislike semmler and hex so much??
dreamy cave
whats sad is, gamestop is still doing ppl badly with there deals and return policy but its probably the only place were going to be getting the next COD
night tusk
they boring + make mistakes often
balmy wolf
they're ok, but some of thier jokes are just terrible
semmler has a very different style of caster compared to others
willow moon
Why are we discussing this in the esports channel
balmy wolf
but his cs go casting is unmatched
willow moon
(The gun thing)
tawny sigil
well sexxler definitely not the worse for mistake
X is the worse for mistake
he does at least 1 every cast
feral wing
define mistake?
rapid locust
I like these 2 guys
echo quest
Just watch the vod lmao. Fury with the pepega ult
tawny sigil
saying the wrong word and not noticing it
echo quest
He ults Jjanu to the point on Route 66
tawny sigil
word/name
echo quest
Unbelievable
balmy wolf
Hunters clutching that play in spot
echo quest
Watching London tilts me
uneven wren
hunters are on the inside track now
night tusk
so who is going to win this?
echo quest
Philly
willow moon
London isn’t trustable
I’d hate to be a fan lol
They play so well but it just seems like they throw on the stupidest times
rapid locust
idk, i think fusion will win but soon is such a good dps
night tusk
so if paris lose this they confirmed to not be in the playoffs ?
uneven wren
yeah
rapid locust
basically
uneven wren
paris need to win out
willow moon
Hnmm go Paris?
balmy wolf
4-0 philly
rapid locust
rip
night tusk
I really supported fusion in season 1.. but I somehow dont like them now... idk why
willow moon
Never tell me the odds 👀
feral wing
so im rooting for philly
willow moon
There ain’t another European (non British) team in OWL so I guess go Paris
tawny sigil
its like monty said... fusion look like they dont want to be there
feral wing
soon and shadowburn*
tawny sigil
EQ0 poker face is just giving everyone a shit mood im sure
echo quest
Honestly Glads are the second best team in league rn
sinful rune
Philly opens on Illios so often that it should be called Phillios
dreamy cave
dosnt finnsi suck on hog?
sinful rune
Yeah he's awful on hog
sinful rune
To be honest, he's the worst hog in the league, it's just not his hero, he was more comfortable on dva, no shame in that
dapper lantern
finnsi plays a nasty hog, are we not watching the same thing
dapper lantern
it’s pretty good
dreamy cave
all i did was ask if he sucked. i dont know if he does or not
sinful rune
Yeah I've watched his pov in the command center and I've seen him get styled on, miss the easiest hooks, and fail to point blank track every target
balmy wolf
neputno got his barrier canceled
sinful rune
Neptuno is interesting, like I mean as a person
He's certainly not bad, but he acts like he carries the team. Like he acts like he's better than he is. He is good tho
night tusk
yeah im supporting paris if philly stay playing this reaper mei
forest raven
https://clips.twitch.tv/BraveCoyBottleSoonerLater @gaunt acorn
dreamy cave
LOL ^
sinful rune
Bumper is bumper
night tusk
sinful rune
The only player I'd ever buy a jersey for is Bumper, because dafran is retired and xqc aint in the league
And yes
sinful rune
Yeah, I like pine ans s4 alot, but I'd biu the bumper jersey for the memes
willow moon
Surefour tho ❤
sinful rune
You feel? @feral wing
balmy wolf
daddy jehong
rapid locust
surefour ❤
dreamy cave
that carpe reaper tho
sinful rune
surefour is daddy
rapid locust
and JJonak
dreamy cave
id buy jjonak and luffys
sinful rune
I don't buy a jjonak jersey, I buy the jjonak skins lol
dreamy cave
maybe mano
night tusk
well what is this ??
sinful rune
Yeah this fight is some serious nonsense, Philly invests all the ults and wins it, and then they don't win it
Philly has lost the fight twice
So far
Now they're winning again
This is what I missed about dps
rapid locust
chaos meta
sinful rune
Yeah the dps hero plays, missed it
quasi stump
paris about to stabilize
dreamy cave
poko?
quasi stump
god damn
sinful rune
Philly lost that fight 3 times
balmy wolf
philly does not know when not to invest
dreamy cave
@sinful rune i dont like mano for whinston i like him for rien
sinful rune
Makes sense
sinful rune
For the question "Which team will use more ults", if philly is one of the choices, pick them. They use ults like they're eating a bag of m&m's
forest raven
EU overwatch 
night tusk
LOL
dreamy cave
they got off
willow moon
Jesus Christ what was that
quasi stump
achilios was barely keeping up with that nonsense 
willow moon
I forgot how to breathe
balmy wolf
bro philly had plat brains
balmy wolf
just lose the fight and retake
dreamy cave
did anyone see how poko kinda killed himself?
forest raven
9 EU's in one game
trim shadow
this was casual levels of gameplay
forest raven
quasi stump
nice boop by kruise
balmy wolf
there was no reason philly shouldn't have lose the 2nd round
quasi stump
yeah they goofed
balmy wolf
but no they gotta invest and switch comps and never regroup properly
visual glen
Did the stream get possessed
rapid locust
which ults are better to use first?
dreamy cave
its a instant damage boost that u set up behind shield
rapid locust
a rein ult if it hits
dreamy cave
windo yeah, but its also a support ult u can use when ur getting pushed
willow moon
I’m watching through the league channel and it’s fine
rapid locust
nano and baptist ult
dreamy cave
nano more so if ur main tank is getting bullied, if not then reaper
just to help get the kills
rapid locust
what
dreamy cave
as well as to get his ult and save or use it
trim shadow
did doa jump over the railing?
dreamy cave
i dont know if nanoing mai makes her freeze ppl faster
willow moon
I don’t think it does
dreamy cave
oh yeah
sullen berry
that fire rate is jacked up
rapid locust
then it would freeze people faster in theory
dreamy cave
nano + super charger for orisa is like being hyped up on raw crack coccane
sullen berry
I can't you how oppressive you can be as orisa with quad damage AND amp matrix
balmy wolf
nano boost doesn't increase fire rate
rapid locust
@sullen berry did you mean "I can't 'believe' how oppressive"
feral wing
jesus eqo
rapid locust
rip sado
balmy wolf
If it did increase fire rate that be one of the best ults in the game.
dreamy cave
sooooo clooose
willow moon
Nice ult usage from both teams
dreamy cave
and nano boost feels like it does. honestly its been some time since i myself have played so thats my mix up
rapid locust
it's possible that the sound just changes and the fire speed doesn't
supple prism
the sounds it gives weapons
balmy wolf
That's because the sound change makes your brain think it does change the fire rate.
supple prism
it 100% does not increase rate of fire
tawny sigil
it doesnt
balmy wolf
If it did increase fire rate 76 would OP as hell.
tawny sigil
sounds does do that yes
maybe they wanted to do that originally and decided against it
who knows
rapid locust
you wouldn't test it based off damage, it would be based off of how much time it takes to force a reload
balmy wolf
its legit the same
tawny sigil
you'd be reloading non stop
rapid locust
look I'm still gonna test it to convince myself, you all do what you want
sullen berry
@supple prism I've planted the seed, it's too late
supple prism
it only modifies sound because you become more of a threat and to make it more noticeable that you are nanoed
supple prism
super easy to test on mccree
tawny sigil
was there some silly face off before the matches today?
supple prism
bqb v saya mccree 1v1
tawny sigil
ok ill have to go back and watch that i guess
supple prism
was first to 9 but went on so long that they ended it at saya 8-7
tawny sigil
they force ended it?
balmy wolf
it was going on for too long
supple prism
first match was scheduled for Disney XD
willow moon
Dva bomb
supple prism
ran out of time
rapid locust
what
dreamy cave
cringe
willow moon
Cringe
echo quest
Is Fragi worse than sado?
trim shadow
fragi is on guangzhou
echo quest
Ik. But the competitive subreddit thinks Fragi is easily better than sado
forest raven
The sub thinks fragi is the best tank in the world
willow moon
oof wish I could ult monkey like that
willow moon
Kruise
rapid locust
what was kruise doing?
willow moon
Nice Blizzard
dreamy cave
big oof
willow moon
So... qhich damage player had the most final blows?
Website says I got it correct but then corrects my answer so idk
dreamy cave
vestal ruin
Hoggie doin' some backflips there
balmy flower
this commentary
fading nimbus
why did the fusion hold so close to the cart. i thought gas station is where you wanna hold
balmy flower
is like crawling through a rotting dumpster
it's so bad
if you hold up close you can come come back and then defend again like right now
basically gives you 2 chances to hold first point
fading nimbus
can you only do that if your good though. i thought golds held the cart right the begionning in front of enemy spawnm
balmy flower
well if that's their strat then they gonna do it against every team
trim shadow
and its only been 2 matches
spring field
Cool
balmy flower
yeah these games are running late
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
trim shadow
toronot florida
trim shadow
yeaaaa gonna be a long night
tawny sigil
double.... double map 5
willow moon
balmy wolf
I'm sitting here waiting for the gc and seoul match... and I've already eaten my late night snack
big rip
balmy flower
l'm out after this game, it's too late on east coast
balmy wolf
but that requires me going to sleep and not watching the match
trim shadow
who sleeps?
dreamy cave
its 10pm. i just want philly to close this out
mental estuary
Cant wait for seoul to use mercy and just go to mercy pov for thicc 
balmy wolf
^
willow moon
Whenever the talk about Boombox I just imagine a Lucio player
willow moon
hahaha