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Dafran is good qr Tracer, that's why I said Dafran for Tracer if meta was with Tracer
But it's only Mei/Reaper/Widow/Hanzo/Sombra?
mei reaper widow hanzo is meta rn
A bit less but still decent amount of doom sombra and genji
tanks are very locked into orisa hog or on r66 orisa dva
Erster is lose
Im confident he can stay consistent
Now nlaeer and babybay are outliers
As then for once
Dog didnt play bad
He showed a little potential
His Ana is good.
Dog has been playing well since goats died @trim shadow
Can excel at what he is good at without worrying about the q button
Babybay and nlaaer are doing p good
They work well with erster
they need some practice to get better
Atlanta is looking strong rn
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Sprite there is a change the SG roster
who are those people
You will know them if you watch Pacific contenders
well i don’t
Paris Eternal suck prove me wrong
Dammit why is that the match of the week
And yeah Paris has been pretty disappointing
no
who?
outlaws vs reign
I feel kinda bad for Paris
And boink has that face on, so this is gonna suck
The face he does
He's doing it
It's the most neutral expression imaginable
Ahhhh
They're not good at mirroring
IDK why he tried that after the boop
ot
For an outlaws fan, I don't have much confidence in the outlaws, do I?
Linkzr pls no
wtf is erster doing lmao
that felt like an entire control map
atl 2 games in a row must be tired
Houston pls stop mirroring
babybay pog
Gimme Jake
babybay carried that round
Now I don't feel as bad about picking against my outlaws
lol
Oh wow another battle of LA
now 2 dogmans and frd is healer role in pov lmao
Double the dogman, twice the win
what is this trap hanamura stuff
Fuck, atlanta knows exactly what to expect
oh shit lol
Outlaws ignoring pokpo 🤔
Stage 2, 2: Outlaws boogaloo
ERSTER
god i love me some high skill nano blade
worlds best genji
never seen such high skilled plays
oh the salty outlaws fans are back
?
I'm not salty, just sad
i root for neither
u sure
nano blade requires no skill lol
But fr blades are easy compared to season 1
i hate it on both ladder and OWL
you try getting a 5k
Yeah blades are easy these days
he's still good
i did yesterday lol
its cool but its not that skillfull especially on bunker where most are all together
I'm not even good at genji and I can still always get at least 2k with a blade when I do play him
Not really, outlaws are sloppy af right now
good shit
Spree pls no
I don't know
good shit
Coolmatt is their best dva
they might be trying to play hog at some point
who is the better hog
similar reason to why frd plays over daco
me
slightly worse dva but better hog


outlaws suffer from what we call "bad fuckin luck"
I call it "bad fuckin team"
No, I believe that outlaws' biggest problem is a lack of proper practice
I think reign is just a better team
or playing with the same players and not buying
but that contributes I guess
on paper that have a genuinely solid team but meta wise its just yikes, only one person that can play zarya (spree), only one player that can play dva (coolmatt), only one player that can play sombra (danteh)
@karmic grotto money pepelaugh
on paper atl is still better
YEah also outlaws never have a good grasp of the meta
when mayhem wins from london
mayhem gets paid to take players at this point
rawkus is i guess passable but not really on flex supp, linkzr is a fucking chad hitscan, jake is consistently average which is better than sometimes really good
muma is consistently ok
linkzr is inconsistent
isnt linkzr only good on widow lol
yes 
No, hes good on any hitscan.
linkzr on tracer pepelaugh
It just that he's all aim, not much mechanical skill
like babybay even acknwoledged it
what is the genuine strat behind playing sombra tracer into pharmercy
kill the enemy tanks before pharmacy kills yours
fair
at that high ass tier, pharah vs widow is generally a pharah favored matchup
so they want to avoid playing widow since shes als oreally easy to pressure out
yeah
erster reminds me of effect
also nlaaer doesnt play widow at his best
minus the drama
just less pyschotic
did u see effect his messages leggo
i did
tbh im waiting until the court decision
too many finger pointing and accusations
hes in court?
Wait what
well the girl said shes taking him to court
his gf is fighting with him
Whose messages?
just seeing those chat messages from effect were so
tldr
@sturdy river i can send them to u if u want
Please and thank you
effect and gf were together
they broken up
effect blamed her for a lot of his bad feelings, made accusations about her
she said all of them were lies/exaggerated
effect said only some were exaggerated
honestly middle school drama tbh but drama is juicy nontheless
the beating message was a monkas
im using twitch emotes but thats honestly scary and weird
can you send them to me too
sure
i actually forgot to read them
good stall
its a long read but i mean
apparently effect paid all her debts and she was abusive or smth
i thought he blamed her of "selling her body" lol
from those messages he looks the one being abuse
what a beta
my guess is both were abusive and are blaming eachother
everything shown as "proof" so far can be faked so until a court makes a decision i got my popcorn
tru
nlaaer on widow again...
fuck
Well I'm not as sad now
You guys know what that means
Maybe a little salty tho
1-1 are not what they seem to be
this looks like a repeat of last time
Soe dressed like some kinda camp villain
IDK why they decided to sub him out
so did daco played already ?
Hmmm I never considered linkzr to have much mechanical skill, just hella good aim
oof
let arhan play for the lolz 
all the b teams play map 5
this is the last stage. and a lot of contracts will end this season. wonder how the rosters in 2020 will look like
I'm sure many contracts will be repeated
Leaves is the kinda only one 100% confirmed but we can expect the justice new tank duo aswell
I love watching arhan play, but I don't think he's in america right now
some can say, they pay me more so... for example maybe gladiators would pay mano twice as more than nyxl (doubt it but still)
I just wanna see outlaws making good roster changes while keeping their core players
and what would that be lol
I don't know
get rid of their entire support and tank line?
I think some will say goodbye, for example mcgravy. but I wonder what about nevix and mickie. if dallas still have mickie its just for the fans. since he did not even played once I believe
Is Mei ever going to get nerfed?
wtf is this ad lol
Yeah id just keep jake, danteh,and muma, and maybe spree, coolmatt, rawkus, or boink
get rid of rawkus lol
Oh also keep linkzr
🅱ench
If i were outlaws id get rid of Coolmatt
Nah rawkus has his moments
but I think shock want nevix because they believe they can sell him. but what team does need another off tank
Coolmatt was useful in season 1 but not this season
Nevix is a another example of Shock just having so much talent
its same like ark. he would not get playtime on nyxl because of anamo. we know for sure that choi > nevix. but thats also because choi can be seen as the best off tank at this moment.
Its like every role the Shock has lol
That was such a painfully slow reset
that was a dumb tick
Woah spree actually ate something
and still lost push 
Chewing gum on open mic 
dogman yeeting nades lol
thre is no way Houston would end up on the benefic side of a prophecy
this prophecy is WRONG
Atlanta Reign are so bad at defense, so watching them do that was awesome
erster...
Erster is too much for earth
did dogman sleep reaper during ult?
Erster was popping off yesterday. and he does it agane 
He's garbage at Pharah tho
or did frd hook
HOok
nice
Erster is so good

What'd Erster play before 2-2-2 came out?
Brig
nothing wrong about me
Brig's great an all, but having dps be able to carry is so great. Watching players like Erster control games is good for the health of the esport
Erster Rookie of the Year
Erster had a good brig but it was the one hero that you couldn't see the effect of much

linkzr cant carry xd
gone lul
easy clap
and that's a map boys
Linkzr tried to pull an Atlas but Outlaws are heavy
😢
from who did atl lost this stage?
No one this stage yet
they look strong.. but yeah I expected charge to take it all last week and than they start losing 
Honestly if Atlanta stay this good they go 7-0 ez
kariv's reaction, its like he got scared
This is the same comms check from yesterday
Open mic > Comms check
bitches really out here
well these takes time to make
doing jojo references
cant have a new one everyday
open mic
why is sinatraa alone on stage?
probably pre game and he was setting up
installing system 32
I mean he switched
who is this guy 
He knew it cancels, he just didn't care because he was switching
I thought it didnt work when respawning still
Erster PogU
it does not work when respawn but he knew he would switch anyway
when 5 man dies what can you do xd
Quick question, can teams substitute players between side switches on a single maps?

does baptiste ult reduce incoming damage too?
No
No they can only sub in-between maps
I wonder if OWL players will use subtitles since that is on ptr (to see easy if someone is using ult ?)
another dragon
20 players killstreak 
what the fuck
subtitles clutter the screen so hard lol
OMG
ez
nice
they give him to much space
Subtitles aren't worth it imo
h
ston
I disagree, they're clearly prioritizing keeping Erster up
LOOL
Doesn't matter what you do or don't let erster do when an entire team is supporting him
houston still bad lul
And outlaws are bad either way lol
but you do have a point frd has done a good job making spac
houston give erster to much space
FRD hog is pretty strong
like NYXL play around jjonak or in 222 we see titans play around haksal. atl plays around erster
just bash nlaaers widow and he gets kills
Mei >>>> x
Well if you have a strong player pocketing them will help
Even if he got a widow kill on spawn it's not really that big compared to the team fight potential mei gives
Mei is out of control in 2-2-2
I love watching danteh's tracer
Danteh tracer kind anutty
Yeah hes one of the best tracers but rarely gets to play her
Bc tracer gets rolled over
long drawn out
Spree is looking better at dva than his usual straight up bad

erster hitscan pog
mei

well depends on the map
Erster is a great mei?
nlaaer's is better but yeah its good fair point
he cant play rein
Yesterday I thought he did great with Maei

*Mei
Hes serviceable but they have Nlaaer
It seems like Erster can play any dps ATL needs
this is gonna go to ot
Aight now I'm hopeful for a map 5, but I knwo it's probably not happening
Map 5 looks unliikely
yeah
if it goes to OT Houston basically loses
Linkzr
LETS GO
NLAAER
welp ggs
GG

pogchamp
IT'S A LONG WINTER FOR THE HOUSTON OUTLULS
LMAO
yeah i knew from the start, this prophecy was wrong
houston will never benefit from that
no arhan no win 
there is only 1 prophecy
Houston tried to copy philly with nano to Hanzo lul
only diff is linkzr bad lul
he look like that youtuber, no idea what his name is
4/5 on preds so far not bad 😛
They can do it
Eqo is pretty pog so there’s a difference I guess
By we I mean Erster can do it
FeelsBirthdayMan

As long as Dogman is of Zen
Like soccer, does OWL have "exciting" offseasons?
In it's own limited scope
Player pickups and such
MAN 12-12 but a positive map diff
spark could drop out of top 6 and reign could take that spot
seoul would have to lose a few times tho
Spark will drop out of top 6
Spark looks like they on the down
Godsb and adorra just arent that good
And then u have krystal situation whos proably destroying team morale
dont forget to vote mvp guxue
No one knows whats gonna happen with krystal
So i wouldnt say hes gone
But its likely hes gonep
indef suspension
prob benched for the rest of the season
and will see what happens next season
As long as VAN doesn't go to map 5 they should e #1 in the stage
Semmler DansGame
avast zp > semmler hex
UberX > all
fun
good no semhex for van-wsh game
Semhex 
ill just do next game lol
Philadelphia Referees
the refs are in
Carpe's hair looks really heavy
fusion getting dressed for their shift at foot locker
I just wanted to say that
Bell
Wow Mangchu is really pale
whats updog
idc who but fire semmlerhex
i cant believe they are gonna get matt ox to perform for the finals
its a party before the finals I believe
my guess here is philly 3-2
@velvet scarab ?
@nova wadi ?
are u fr
yes
LOL
martin garrix is huge. some dont even knew philly fusion but will visit the event just for him
cant wait for him to peform with cheef kief
its still a party before the finals I believe and well.. OWL did not promote it only philly fusion so might even not get streamed
Anyone would probably be better than ANOTHER ONE
Literally can't get any worse than last year
"DJ" Khaled
What he did could've hardly been called DJ'ing
apparently is was cringy
How many times is Sado gonna die first
All the times
maintanks die first a lot more than the rest of the team
He keeps dying so early though :/
I can't watch stream cause bad internet, is philly doing kinda shit?
Ik its only control
Its Volskaya
Philly
logix looking over like, "is this really philly?"
audio 100
39%
ya
thank you mr logix
Sideshow's hairline PepeLaugh
gonna be a quick series
Logix didn’t do shit that round
logix going to regret tbagging carpe
Who's playing rn?
toronto vs philly
I fell like I am the only one who doesn't watch Overwatch League lmao 🤠
Who's playing rn?
This match is a snoozefest
you dont need to attack well, when you full hold


The throws
Logix
they will lose this
Ez
nooo... they're ruining the prophecy statistic!!!
2 teams ruining the prophecy
😭
Eqo won them the game
all today
Wasn't that an awesome finish?
ehhh
So like
cost me a twitch pick
Why did they change chairs
Doesn't matter really when philly is gonna get shit on in playoffs
Didn’t multiple players complain they fucking hurt
no
@dreamy cave 3rd match coming up now!
How is it carpe
@dreamy cave atlanta houston then philly toronto

is everyone ready for justice to be 4-20?
40$ says twilight cant beat jjonak in a healer only 1v1
yesterday was the day for underdogs right?
I dont watch a lot. who do i vote for to get some tokens?
Why play gido instead of sleepy?
Godreg hardcarry incoming
i bet justice take a map
you mean haksal carry
expect stage 2 and stage 3 playoffs
4-0 incomoing
that took a while

4-0 from washington??? 
justice are going to take a map
sure
nah this is a fluke... 2-1 on control
washington: if florida beat london we can beat titans too
its more like titans are throwing
looks like there doing it
222 meta
well

ive been right so far.
upset time 
this is a fluke... 3-1
that was fast
It’s literally vanc not being able to play a reaper

Justice’s faces “lol srsly”
it's Florida vs London all over again
bad team tend to win control so it doesnt mean anything
Kapp
That double boop
That's an interesting concept regarding more mental sports, like despite the titans being better on paper, Washington isn't automatically down and out
yeah, but what about yesterdays game then?
Will haksal genji work against Mei though
yes i got the pick right lol i picked wj for environmental
why are they talking about crossbows
thanks statefarm
wtf is statefarm
insurance company
oof
wtf was that
That map win really lifted their spirits
aw Imma be sad if justice doesn't win
Ksf omegalul
I feel like whenever titans lose now the camera immediately goes to bumper’s surprised pikachu face
Get headshotted
the trans was there tho
wait what happened to sleepy?
does trans not do enough healing now?
anti heal negates trans
Called burst
also burts damage as well
i didnt notice they were antied
if you do more than 300 damage than trans doesn't do anything
high IQ bridge
that was a pretty good stall
yooo, they dead!
Is it because the Titans are so used to goats?
Titans want to participate in weekend of throws
its not like titans are one tricks
obviously not
lol
just musing, there's got to be something that would cause the #1 seed to be losing to the #19?
cool you just jinxed it D:
maybe justice isn't actually the 19 seed metaphorically
The Californian Kush
Same thing that causes the Mayhem to win
that's what
It’s probably that titans just aren’t as strong with these DPS heroes
that's fair @balmy wolf
The hardest thing is these are some of the least picked heroes
They probably barely played reaper and mei for example
Which makes it harder to adapt
They have to have known that this was coming right? Like everyone else did?
They also play really differently from most other DPS heroes
So skillset doesn’t transfer as easily
Who knew reaper and mei were gonna be some of the top dps ?

this is a yikes
Get it to overtime and u can only draw or win for wash
That's game
yoooo they 2-0
Titans in trash tier in this meta?
THIS ISN'T APART OF THE SCRIPT JUSTICE
THIS IS THE UPSET
Good job florida
reverse sweep?
Youve caused mayhem
I have no faith anymore
Titans either gonna wake up or roll over and die
Just finish this Washington lmfao

London didn’t wake up either yesterday
^
If anything gesture was laughing when they lost the second map
This is a fluke. titan gonna reverse sweep
Imagine titans get eliminated first round of season playoffs
by houston
@tawny sigil you said that last map too
yo im having yesterday flashbacks
@tawny sigil mayhem have paved the way for a all underdog weekend
doo eit!
its a fluke, don't think about it too hard
<<insert wolfofvillainy pasta here>>
Now I just want Vancouver to lose to annoy Lioran
Reverse sweep probably but idk
they put someone on wilheim duty during the half time i swear
orisa trying to scratch her back?
no
Power rankings said fuck work
Titans just wanna pull a reverse sweep (:
jk
i'm gonna drink a bottle of wine if justice wins
just call it goats lol
How is this possible
idk what's going on in OWL anymore
Wait OWL. Is. A. Anime

mei bae blade
i like that milkshake one
it's the comeback
What in the fuck did I turn in to

This is great omfg
Meiblade is pog
you know pine's parent were telling him to get a real job prior him making money
I log on and see Washington up 2-0, 2-2-2 really changed the owl
2-2-2 is a hell of a drug eh?
Not gonna lie, I've been waiting for the day of titans' fall
Well if justice win from titans. And justice won from mayhem. Does that mean that london is just good but lost from the top teams (mayhem) 
How to nerf mei, move her to the tank slot. /s
How u gonna lose to mayhems b team
That’s actually a legitimate means of balance now lol
if you're not secure into the playoffs then why would you troll tho?
Just nerf orisa
Promised neverland 4heads are massive
Who do hunters vs? Nyxl?
Yes
They kinda played meh last match
Jjanu *
Tell me when titans get a kill
They got a kill
After this loss coaches wake up and than will have another winstreak
Two
Like last time
The heck is this match
Vanc with the comeback uwu
Oh this match is not good actually
Do any teams use Rein right now?
^
Vancouver are garbage at mei and reaper
is window+ bongo 250% damage or 300%
That’s how they’re losing
They might of not been taking it seriously at the start and got punished
Last time I saw titans I was like “hey they smart, they play on their strength” but why is haksal not on genji rn...
CaUsE mEi CounTers GeNji
wait titans are losing?
Yes
Eqo before stage starts in watchpoint : hot take is that justice will go 7-0... i did not believe
how is that possible? justice has one of the worst records next to mayhem
2-0 for Washington
I think the titans are sandbagging
sandbagging?
Back to nyxl
there doing it
They've always been super cocky and pretentious, so my guess is they just didn't care enough to prep for this
I'm away from my laptop. Who were the Titans playing?
Nah
Washington
thats fair. when you're one of the best teams in the league, you'd look down on one of the worst
I just tuned in and saw the score line: Is this a case or "What happened to WAS", or what happened to VAN?
Mind you, this happens in a lot of sports, the top team loses to the bottom team.
but this is gonna cost them
its over?
Remember Overtime = Titan lost the series
I think part of this could be that the Titans don't have anything to lose
Overtime on 3rd point that is
looking for wine
That was never the case so now not aswell. Everyone mentioned before that justice would be scary. Like I said eqo expected 7-0 from them. Titans are not sandbagging
just means justice has all the more to gain
It's over? Mines still at 1:30 left
i remember a time when people thought dragons would never take a stage, let alone beat titans
let alone beat 3 top teams rather
Titans can't be sandbagging, they need to get better with the new meta to do good in to playoffs
idk what new york was doing
they played sbb the whole time on sombra that season, but not once against dragons
We can’t watch scrims
Stage 4 Week 1 was the week where we still saw some brig cause some team just really didn't want to let go goats.
Week 2 is where some team will have a wake up call
Mei Reaper is kinda mini GOATS anyway
YOUR GOAT IS DEAD JUST LET IT GO!
Just sustain forever
Does this looks like sandbagging
I thought I had some ez tokens
Look at them
How tf is Washington winning
Bumper looks like he’s about to explode
0-2
Reaper's lifesteal is starting to look a bit overtuned now that he is meta
Hooreg is already afraid to visit bench
his lifesteal is fine
That’s a man who’s holding back all his salt
I hope this is just VAN sandbagging right?
Then again hanzo is just as meta as reaper
im surprised reaper is working at all when they have mei and a sniper
hot take, every team has a chance to beat any team. except Boston or Dallas, they're now the worst teams imo
Washington best team
how is he getting value at all
like bottom 3 are Boston Dallas and Toronto/Mayhem
Corey popping off all series wtf
like, I'm not that surprised with upsets anymore
Is corey in team usa?
what teams do count as bad anyway
all i know is that mayhem and justice look the worst
How
I was at the movie theatre, someone explain what the hell, why the hell, and how the hell
Omggg
Just wow
How did Titans lose that
THERE DOING IT
Pepega Titans
wait what the fuuuuuk
they look so lost
YO Janus and Stratus with the Bongo and Blizzard
Titans think it was smart to follow meta instead of playing what their good in (genji)
Rip hooreg again
wait match isnt over on my end
that's some 900 iq stuff, I thought that fight was lost, and then I see the only two people pop their ults
still got a minute left
welp
Janus en sansam knew this is their time to prove, other tanks already signed lol, this might save them their job.
i got my wine right here
boom
Finally
yo there going to stop them
they're not pepega just yet
This is troll from Vancouver righr
inb4 reverse sweep
RIGHT?
1 SHOT HEADSHOT
LOL
DENIED
Does that looks like a joke 
Titans strat should just be focus the shit out of Corey
the sombra isnt doing anything
this is a fucking shitshow
tfw casters do the high pitched laugh at you
@raika yeah exactly
less than a min
Omggp
Slime deleted
slime down hog ult stopped
Suprise hog
they might actually do it
Look at this guy
oh nvm
Popping off
corey is low key hard carrying
I would not even expect them to split up
deeeeeeleted
Popping off since map 1
Still no emp
How could switch from having goats meta to 2 2 2 in the same season
Bruh Corey is actually insane
why sombra anyway?
i thought they officially became a throw pick now
😦
Draw = win
Alright, remember, Overtime = titan lost
its just over isnt it
yeah
If 3-0
ahh
titan lost
Deletes and deletes
gg
Justice should bring b team
gg
The moira pick is low-key a throw
like mayhem
Basically impossible to push to end before OT
Overtime, justice won
Gg
the series
Gg
gg
OMG COREY CALM UT
OOF
Thats it
whattttt
SOOOO
CLOSE
bruh
Still
°IT
They won
oh
Damn
They won
B R U H
it's not over for this map yet
How did that push all the way lol
Big ol c9
Its done already
it's over for the series
Textbook c9
A draw at best the series is over
PepeLaugh lost to Justice
That's tuff
lol they lost
its a freebie c9, they knew they won anyway
conjuring the fucking devil to win this match i swear
So just curious, are people freaking out about a midseason meta change?

Become some top teams look a lot more vulnerable
not from what ive seen
They trained so hard in goats that it's taking a while to work out the kinks for the top teams
Corey better be POTM lol
Hes fucking gaaaaaaaarbage
Ah close
COREY
So uk when we bashed wizard and said he was bad at making a team




