also, arrow being a projectile makes random headshot way more common
#esports-discussion
proven saddle
balmy wolf
I think a buff to Ashe you could do which I think blizzard should do; Is whatever target Ashe is shooting at, bob also shoots at instead of bob shooting randombly
jagged crater
also nenne nuttin on soon
dreamy cave
idk about that. if she just ults and dies then what??
jagged crater
we need see soon step it up!
gilded peak
So BoB can only shoot randomly if Ashe doesn't shoot anybody then?
sinful rune
Finnsi is so bad holy shit
proven saddle
@balmy wolf if it's in LOS
little silo
Finnsi is doing pretty well so far
raw ermine
What's the score?
gilded peak
2-0
gilded peak
I want Flower 😦
raw ermine
I have crap Internet
balmy wolf
NYXL is damn sure not worried about map differential
dreamy cave
finnsi got styled on by nenne
balmy wolf
like top 3 is already locked and confirmed
give the fans some service and bring out pine for map 4
sinful rune
Finnsi couldnt hit a shot on a widow point blank
It was honestly card to watch, the reply of nenne vs finnsi
little silo
you mean the widow that got healed
sinful rune
hard*
gilded peak
I'm actually surprised Pine gets played when they got Flower, I remember Pine was overshadowed because of Flower.
jagged crater
flower's shown even less than pine
gilded peak
Ouch, 0-4-1??? That's almost as bad as 0-8 from SHD hollywood
dreamy cave
^ false
gilded peak
I mean during the time in LW Blue
little silo
Pine hasnt been played yet this season
jagged crater
pine's performance a lil more recent
proven saddle
is there a good team lacking a good hitscan player?
little silo
Honestly pre OWL S1 doesnt matter at this point
proven saddle
i mean, even florida has sayaplayer
jagged crater
flower's played garbage time minutes this season
little silo
fits is okay but not amazing
gilded peak
But game 3 he was trash. Fits seems like he specializes in control
proven saddle
nyxl could sell pine and/or flower is they are not going to use them
little silo
Jersey sellers
gilded peak
Doubt NYXL will do that. They are all former teammates
proven saddle
cmon, no body is buying flow3r jerseys
little silo
Selling a player isnt a teammate choice
sinful rune
Most dps are pretty trash after being stuck on brig every day for months, thats why all the widows have been on reaper lol
dreamy cave
nenne is just chewing them like gum
balmy wolf
I feel like you have to keep fans showing why they should buy a jersey otherwise it doesn't work
Like
gilded peak
Could have shot that....
balmy wolf
I don't think ppl gonna keep buying Pine jerseys in like season 4-5 if he doesn't play for 2 seasons
little silo
nenne actually lived that?
raw ermine
My Internet is so bad it took me 5 minutes to see your guys say 2-0. Thanks
gilded peak
I wonder, but do these players still get paid X amount of $ even though they haven't played at all?
little silo
They are earning at least 50k a year
balmy wolf
in NYXL case 100K plus for all their players
proven saddle
that's like a cop salary?
balmy wolf
that's the league Minimum
balmy wolf
the teams can pay more for a player
sinful rune
Calvin got offered 150,000 to play
gilded peak
Yep, Decay is like 300k
balmy wolf
it's how LAG bought gladiators
little silo
NY pay their players pretty well and players get a fixed salary on their contract which will be paid unless the contract is terminated
balmy wolf
I mean Decay
proven saddle
i don't even live in usa, i just sawthat cops salary is 50k in Brooklyn 99 lul
sinful rune
decay really isnt worth like 300k
gilded peak
^
balmy wolf
before I judge if he's worth 300K
IK a team would pay at minimum 100K for jjonak or twilight
gilded peak
Just that 1 game vs NYXL made it seem worth it. But still need to see more of his game.
little silo
his zarya was top tier tbh even when the rest of La struggled
gilded peak
I wonder if Sinatra got a raise after dominating as Zarya
little silo
Jonak is worth way more just for how popular he is and his mvp award
proven saddle
consider if 50k is the minimum decay is making the 6 boston players salary
balmy wolf
They were already paying him the most in season 1 and he wasn't impressive
sinful rune
How do you know Decay's contract is 300K? Nobody really is a "decay fan", so he really isn't worht that much to the team
balmy wolf
Zarya he was but I doubt he'd renegotiate his contract when he hadn't proven himself on Zarya
little silo
ever heard of korean contenders
balmy wolf
Talking about Sinatraa
gilded peak
Man, such a big difference from Gesture and other peoples Orisa. He uses his halt so perfectly
sinful rune
If decay's contract is ACTUALLY 300k, then xqc's must have been around 600K when he was signed on Dallas
balmy wolf
I doubt it
sinful rune
Because people actually like xqc
balmy wolf
Like is a strong word
little silo
decay is worth that much because so many teams tried to acquire him
balmy wolf
I think most of the community knows of xqc and knows of him as an entertainer
little silo
Gladiators had the highest bid and got him because of that
proven saddle
consider how valuable is to sign a streamer, just look at atlanta
gilded peak
I wonder when Water will be signed
balmy wolf
but as a team player that's a bit different and whether they like him is a strong word
ppl like Dafran
little silo
S1 was different
proven saddle
is the most popular team and is an expansion team
gilded peak
Btw, is XQC banned or he just doesn't want to play OWL?
little silo
xqc is popular and actually pretty talented but he isnt worth 300k
proven saddle
as a player, no. but as a brand...
little silo
xqc isnt really trying to get into OWL I think
visual glen
No way xQc goes back to OWL with all the streamer money
sinful rune
Like if you paid 500K for xqc, you'd make at least quadruple back on jerseys and stuff
balmy wolf
XQC is not going into OWL
last I heard he was a member of the gladiators contenders team
sinful rune
He's on a contenders team but he never gets played
balmy wolf
just for the brand connection
little silo
but why would you pay that much if you can get him cheaper
sinful rune
Because you can't get him cheaper @little silo
little silo
Players are worth that much because of auctions with multiple teams
gilded peak
Well nobody just buys anybody at max bid, they will always lowball it then go up.
balmy wolf
mhmm
little silo
ofc you can get xqc cheaper than 500k
proven saddle
yeah, you could train to be a pro or, you know, you could just get paid for playing comp and watching buzzfeed videos
gilded peak
That wall bomb XD
sinful rune
Noo xqc is a bidding war type of player
dreamy cave
gg
balmy wolf
like I'm entirely convinced ML7 would be the most popular western support player alive if he chose to go OWL
visual glen
Pine now pls
balmy wolf
but he doesn't really want or need to
dreamy cave
unleash the big boss plz
balmy wolf
I'm more confused as to why he hasn't formed a partnership with like some teams to stream for them to increase his brand awareness
gilded peak
I want Flower 😦
sinful rune
And the thing is, you have to pay him alot because of the salary reduction from going from streaming to player @little silo
dreamy cave
no flower. im so done with flower
proven saddle
@balmy wolf that's because ML7 is wholesome
little silo
You dont have to
gilded peak
Why? I'm done with Pine.
proven saddle
it's like the most positive player
balmy wolf
xqc won't have a salary above 300k, its depends on the orgs budget as well
sinful rune
You very much do have to, if you want him on your team
little silo
as a player he isnt star level rn
balmy wolf
^
minor island
did nyxl win
sinful rune
Look at atlanta, everyone knows dafran and their the most popular team because of it, xqc is like dafran x3, he gets 20K viewers instead of 6-7K
proven saddle
it's not because his talent, it's an investment
sinful rune
You pay for the name
balmy wolf
actually DF is the most popular team rn
Also I just wanna point out like; I'm entirely positive a majority of Dallas fan base are mainly fans for jayne and not the team itself
sinful rune
You pay him to be able to say "We have xqc on our team"
balmy wolf
I have yet to meet a person who actively likes Dallas for their players
little silo
but you dont pay 500k for that
sinful rune
Yeah exactly, I liked seagull and xqc
balmy wolf
^
gilded peak
Only Taimou? and Mikey?
sinful rune
Oh yes you do @little silo
trim shadow
I used to like dallas cause of@old envy and effecr
visual glen
Dallas had streamer power last year
balmy wolf
seagull at most was being payed 200k dude
trim shadow
Now if u like dallas
proven saddle
sign a streamer
build a fanbase
the stream leaves after one stage
profit
trim shadow
Your only reason is jayne
visual glen
Seagull is gone so his fans are gone
little silo
dallas is popular because EnvyUs was super popular
opal spruce
im a dallas fan cuase i live in dallas, we exist too
little silo
that too
trim shadow
Ur better off with houston
sinful rune
For example whenever marvel makes another avengers movie, they spend the majority of their budget on their cast. Their faces. If you really want to make money, you pay invest and get some streamers on your team
How much do you think dafran's contract was?
minor island
did nyxl win ?
sterile fox
yes
little silo
maybe 150k
opal spruce
nah @trim shadow if you live in dallas its very simple, "fuck houston"
opaque cargo
Big Bench Pine
almost spit out my drink
trim shadow
F l o w e r
sinful rune
No fuck flower
gilded peak
FU YEAH!!!!
little silo
Flower okay
sinful rune
Get that shit outta here
trim shadow
slams desk
proven saddle
look at guanzhou charge, is a very good team but nobody really cares about them
little silo
where are his glasses
gilded peak
Screw you Pine lovers
sinful rune
NOBODY WANTS FLOWER EVERYONE WANTS PINE WTF ARE U DOING
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now, with fraggy is a different story
sinful rune
@gilded peak im sorry but youre literally the only person that likes flower
nova wadi
dreamy cave
flower is just so bleh bruh
trim shadow
If pine isnt traded in the off season
sterile fox
nenne is better than pine anyway
trim shadow
I swear togod
balmy wolf
Flower
proven saddle
@sterile fox sad but true
balmy wolf
smh
gilded peak
@sinful rune I know, lol. Oh well. Understandable why everybody wants Pine.
sinful rune
Nenne's widow simply isn't as good as pine's widow
trim shadow
LET PINE PROVE HIMSELF
dreamy cave
even IF nenne is better than Pine, Pine is better than Flower
gilded peak
Only problem is Nenne/Pine/Flower all have the same hero pool
little silo
Pine is inconsistent and risky
gilded peak
???? Flower is better than Pine, mate
balmy wolf
THATS THE WRONG PLANT
sterile fox
Nenne won Pine in the widow 1v1
sinful rune
No pine is better lol
balmy wolf
Pine is the flashiest widow player; Like his 4-5K on the backline Widow against London is still one of the top most incredible plays in OWL
gilded peak
The only time Pine is good is when he is on fire.
trim shadow
Basingn knowledge off of s1
dreamy cave
pine hasnt played at all to be inconsistent
proven saddle
does it even matter who's better? both are amazing but nenne is better
sinful rune
A 1v1 doesnt determine their contribution to a teamfight
trim shadow
Pine is i consistent at sleeping apperantly
little silo
alrighr guys if he hasnt played at all then why is he better
sinful rune
because theyre fucking dumb thats why
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flow3r got baited by the inmortality field lul
gilded peak
Kinda like Xepher, they all call him scrim god, but when a real match happens, he is trash.
trim shadow
Or what happened when teams were notified of 222
little silo
im assuming that they tell Mano and Jonak to do their thing and thats it
balmy wolf
That has been a majority of their strats this season
little silo
yup
sterile fox
y’all don’t give Nenne the recognition smh
opaque cargo
finnsi looks lost
balmy wolf
I think that's cause his fuck ups are extremely noticable or have been anyway
proven saddle
mano?
sterile fox
yeah libero kicked ass
proven saddle
well, just to give main tanks some love
sterile fox
bruh
little silo
mano is highly rated
sterile fox
they’re main tanks bruh
trim shadow
Full hold
balmy wolf
like legit he is the main tank that got snuffed
dreamy cave
you want proof
trim shadow
Jesus
gilded peak
I wonder, but what do you think Havanna needs changing?
sterile fox
no
opaque cargo
nyxl are throwing
proven saddle
well... flow3r's perfomance was really underwhelming
gilded peak
Really? So many teams are getting full hold though.
dreamy cave
flower should get the bench hammer
sinful rune
Yeah they should let flower go
balmy wolf
I mean that's just payload
opaque cargo
they're up 3-0 they can literally afford not to try now
little silo
Havana sucks because of the long street at the start
little silo
huge sightlines for snipers and bunker
sinful rune
Like they have 3 dps with the same hero pool, keep nenne, keep pine, libero, and SBB, and then just get rid of flower
gilded peak
That's why I asked what would be a good change to that. Because its gotta be the map that got the most full hold.
sinful rune
5 is too many dps really
balmy wolf
I mean Payload be like that
gilded peak
5 is alot of DPS, I think 3-4 is good.
trim shadow
Trade flower
balmy wolf
Almost no one finishes Rialto typically
trim shadow
Or trade pine
sinful rune
Yeah they should get rid of flower
trim shadow
If ur gonna rot him away
balmy wolf
And Junkertown point A holds are common
little silo
yeah but Havana is probably the most extreme
proven saddle
trade flow3r to seoul
gilded peak
Rialto is also bad. Screw that small bridge
umbral bone
wait guys is it just me or league picks arent working
little silo
The first street is huge
gilded peak
I thought you said you weren't gonna watch?
umbral bone
like it said my region isnt eligible
little silo
once localization comes in Seoul will have an insane amount of talented players as options
trim shadow
start the next game plez
visual glen
I can watch whatever I want 
little silo
maybe next year
sinful rune
yeah i havent gotten my reward for 1 correct pick or make 1 pick yet
gilded peak
What was that???
trim shadow
Libero?
balmy wolf
it's his first game in how long?
sinful rune
flower is doing very poorly
trim shadow
Libero waited for some reason?
little silo
i doubt that flower scrimmed with NY in 2-2-2
trim shadow
Flower isnt on the server
gilded peak
Not just Libero. That was a weird call.
balmy wolf
He is also on Reaper against long range dps cause NYXL just plays typical meta
dreamy cave
still feels bad
sterile fox
hey remember when saybeyolbe got a fucking triple and there’s this guy
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that was underwhelming for both teams
gilded peak
Yeah, someone made a call.
balmy wolf
Although
gilded peak
I know they had Baptiste ult up. Maybe shield and matrix ran out?
little silo
alright now give me Libero potm
balmy wolf
now ppl have more justification to say he sucks
trim shadow
Flower comes in > gets full@held
gilded peak
Yep, and everybody here is gonna bash. Saying Pine would have done better.
trim shadow
No one knows what pine wouldve done
balmy wolf
I'm not saying he would, I'm saying he'd be more entertaining arguably
little silo
did they get nenne out of the breakroom for that?
balmy wolf
probably
trim shadow
Yea
sterile fox
yeah
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FLOW3R OVERRATED
PINE OUTDATED
LONG HAVE WE WAITED
NENNE ACTIVATED
gilded peak
Danny loves his mic
dreamy cave
im not gonna say pine would have been better buuuuut this looks bad for flower
trim shadow
Dugout not breakrook is what the teams call it
willow moon
Is that a Twitch copulastes
balmy wolf
Danny got shown up by Im37
willow moon
Copypasta
balmy wolf
so like he very wary
gilded peak
That is still my favorite moment when IM37 spoke english XD
balmy wolf
ever since Danny has made sure to never give the mic
he doesn't want his job to look redundant
sterile fox
well he translates shit
gilded peak
He reminds me like one of those newsman where the mic is all theirs.
little silo
Danny likes to translate interviews to be more spicy
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leaper, hero 32 confirmed
balmy wolf
I can't wait to see alien Zarya
gilded peak
I want that mysterious hero when they showcased Ashe. Forgot her name
little silo
echo?
gilded peak
Yeah, Echo. Thanks
sterile fox
what alien zarya
gilded peak
So NYXL got the #1 spot then?
balmy wolf
Echo is coming but Jeff said she wasn't ready yet
willow moon
Inside joke
gilded peak
I mean for their division.
balmy wolf
oh yea not even a question
sterile fox
liberoo
little silo
NY are guaranteed 2nd with this
gilded peak
So NYXL is gonna sandbag the rest of the season then
willow moon
Titans Excelsior Shock Spark Spitfire
balmy wolf
If the spitfire clutch this out of their asses
I will never not pick spitfire as the season finals
gilded peak
I don't think Spark is guaranteed yet. Hard to say.
sterile fox
yeah no
willow moon
Well they’re placed highly
proven saddle
i would like guxue to win just to have a pink winston skin
willow moon
But i don’t think they’re finals material
balmy wolf
He does have one tho
if spark dont look good today, they might have to settle for play ins
it's called the spark skin
sterile fox
bruh
little silo
its either twilight or sinatraa
gilded peak
Yeah but Spark lost last week 3-1 to ATL. So they really need to win few more games to guarantee their spot
balmy wolf
depsite currently having 40% of the votes
little silo
yeah its most likely sinatraa
balmy wolf
fans will outrage
sterile fox
fans already outraged when mano wasn’t in
little silo
but twilight was more consistent and might get picked more by OWL teams which should give him the edge
sinful rune
I wish dafran was still signed tbh, because he'd own in this dps meta
I'd love to see his tracer and soldier in OWL
gilded peak
Yeah.. I would have loved it if he stayed more than 1 stage..
little silo
i doubt that we would see his soldier
gilded peak
Only signed him for PR
Only way to see Soldier is if they buff him again... They keep buffing and nerfing his damn bullet dmg...
balmy wolf
Dafran would easily be the most etnertaining
but I'm proud of him for leaving maturely
instead of going effect
gilded peak
Well Dafran was making news before OWL even started...
proven saddle
what happened with effect
gilded peak
Saying that he quit OW and etc
balmy wolf
Typical stupid tmz drama shit that you're better off not knowing about
True but his Drama and his reaction IN OWL was very mature
as compared to effect who melted down countless times in season 1 and I believe this season as well to the point he just quit pro scene
sinful rune
Yeah..
balmy wolf
"Alright Dood I'm good. I'm gonna head off best of luck. Thanks for everything"
sinful rune
dafran lowkey carried them stage 1 though
balmy wolf
not once have my picks not worked.
umbral bone
no like it says my region is ineligible like huUh
balmy wolf
I'm gonna say Philly wins
balmy wolf
might just be the computer
sinful rune
Anybody remember "PLEASE KILL COOLMATT PLEASE"?
minor flame
lol
balmy wolf
remember rascal yelling at his teammates for help
Wonder who is gonna get replaced eventually in Houston after this season is over
probs boink and maybe add more staff
gilded peak
Maybe Jake if Jake decides to go full time caster.
balmy wolf
Naw
balmy wolf
I think Jake is kept just for his projectile play and for popularity since I think him, Rawkus, and Danteh are their most popular members
jake is actually a decent dps
sinful rune
my picks arent working
sinful rune
I should have both of these
It said I made correct picks, 4 to be specific, and I made one in general
but it hasnt given me the thingeys
gilded peak
Most likely since DVA matrix is still the strongest defense ability
Or maybe their DVA can't hook
umbral bone
trim shadow
Houston casually dunking on philly
umbral bone
im in us
gaunt acorn
mine haven't given the reward yet either
despite fulfilling the requirements
just be patient, i'd imagine
balmy wolf
I really do hate like the pick questions cause they're kinda just absurd
Besides "Who is gonna win" the other questions is kinda hard to predict
sinful rune
I wish it was just something like "Which dps do you think will get more kills?" or most damage
willow moon
That’s the fun
sinful rune
Yeah
severe junco
legit they should just ask who's gonna win each map imo
balmy wolf
But I just want the league tokens
willow moon
^^
balmy wolf
I don't care which team actually has these stats as long as they win
sinful rune
which team will use more ults is kinda easy
I see houston commit lots of ults to fights they have already well lost
they dont have good discipline, therefore they will use more ults
balmy wolf
That's hard cause you'd think it's the winning team but to know that before the map even starts is hard unless it's extremely clear
sinful rune
no just the team that's more trigger happy
like philly is winning but theyve clearly used less ults so far
upper hawk
I was so disappoint GLA lost to houston
If they dont steamroll the hunters my hope will be dwindling real fast
sinful rune
Sado always holds onto his bongo for too long and muma pressed his q whenever he gets it
So I can predict that alright
The only way houston uses less ults is if they get hardcore spawn camped
balmy wolf
I really do think Muma's best tank is Orisa
severe junco
well is hungry today
balmy wolf
are they still selling the jerseys for LAV?
Cause the new jerseys for LAV with that dark green was pretty dope but I bought 2 NY jerseys
tawny sigil
DEMONS
minor flame
wtf
balmy wolf
leak team comms lel
minor flame
the souls of the Well came back to haunt us
minor flame
Demons
tawny sigil
the demons are back
balmy wolf
I mean it worked
dreamy cave
genji macree on defence??
pearl stratus
Forced C9
Muma systematically pushed off 3 people.
Knocked EQO over the wall
Knocked Sado into the trench.
balmy wolf
I don't think he actually pushed off neptuno
tawny sigil
C9 BY FORCE!
balmy wolf
they just didn't touch
light flint
c9 tbh
pearl stratus
Neptuno was tethered to Sado
light flint
they are focus on the orisa
balmy wolf
yea but that doesn't mean the connection breaks if he touches point
pearl stratus
So a jump to her would be off point
pearl stratus
He didn't have fortify up, he was screwed either way.
Especially after the displacement changes.
Momentum doesn't change boops anymore.
At least not much.
tawny sigil
also phily has triggered the prophecy, can they live through it?
balmy wolf
no
tawny sigil
owl is turning into a stand up comic?
tawny sigil
alright lesson learn, never give analist an instrument again
those front row girls looked bored as fuck
"I just wanna see Jake play"
light flint
What is up with the mustache?
tawny sigil
the win rate for teams that won first map and lost the second in stage 4 is like 20% right now
dont know whats up with losing team winning control
trim shadow
Poko bought a white van
trim shadow
clear crane
hmm
light flint
That nano Hhhmm
visual glen
Mei Reaper is boring
severe junco
how long until the pick challenges update?
severe junco
havana
sinful rune
Ah see I was right about houston using the most ults
clear crane
just like how brig pretty much enabled goats, bap enables bunker to a higher degree
sinful rune
I have 5 correct picks so far and don't have the rewards for 1 correct pick or 5 correct picks yet
light flint
No way
balmy wolf
And the fact they pick two of the tank/dps hybrids
for their dps
I think teams just kinda figured out that the game is objective based and thus would be more advantageous to brawl on said objective rather than do double sniper where you get picks
sinful rune
have any of yall seem that video where jake plays against a bunch of casual gamers
tawny sigil
jaketion
upper hawk
Lmao neptuno with the mercy 3k
sinful rune
is the picks thing not loading for anyone else?
was working fine literally 3 minutes ago and now thw widget won't load, it's a blank screen
balmy wolf
phillys dps positioning is garbage
clear crane
lmfaooooo
balmy wolf
how are your healers this fucking stupid
clear crane
3 times they fked up
tawny sigil
I guess that's just how strong the prophecy is... makes shit like this happen
willow moon
Is 
playing yet???
trim shadow
Toronto new york london paris Boston
severe junco
please philly
willow moon
How is it going??
balmy wolf
someone really needs to fire philly's coaches
tawny sigil
wait to see if we get clutch 5th map or not
severe junco
philly i need this
willow moon
Oh ok still Houston and Philly?
tawny sigil
JAKE IS MAD
trim shadow
If philly does a ot Map@complete
Houston should be called terrible anymore
Houston is a contenders team
Along with florida
severe junco
CARPE
trim shadow
Goodness gracious jake
tawny sigil
jake is mad because his team is bad
severe junco
BRO WHY
trim shadow
That was mad value on that nano boost
tawny sigil
6-3
severe junco
THEY DID IT
balmy wolf
WTF
visual glen
No way Outlaws take all 3
willow moon
Did Outlaws throw? 
opal spruce
so who said Havana needed a change?
light flint
OVERTIME! Panic intensifies!
trim shadow
If outlaws take all 3 ill buy a jake jersey
minor flame
bruh
willow moon
Guys i aint watching fill me in
balmy wolf
Basically
minor flame
they push through all points
balmy wolf
Philly 1 minute push and got through all 3
minor flame
and they switch to Pirateship at Point C
balmy wolf
points on havana
willow moon
Holy shit
severe junco
philly just, in 1 minute OT just got 6 ticks
trim shadow
Andddd gg houston
severe junco
they're 6-3 up on havana
balmy wolf
it's gonna be damn near impossible for Houston to win
but if they do it'll be a damn good show
tawny sigil
I love the Winston Oathlaw, Jack is so good. 
severe junco
has that happened before, 6 ticks on payload?
tawny sigil
not on havana
severe junco
on any map
tawny sigil
pretty sure it has
trim shadow
Not even a point taken
tawny sigil
i hope philly doesnt end up in the final again after how shit they've been playing all season
severe junco
6-3 
upper hawk
Well that was mildly embarassing
tawny sigil
Alright time for some poker face interview
severe junco
i love how it went from super tight on havana to outlaws getting bodied on havana
upper hawk
Just a complete collapse
trim shadow
^
balmy wolf
wait does this mean outlaws are out of season playoffs
tawny sigil
wow the cringe on that commercial
minor flame
bitches they literally said
midnight sage
Came back just in time to see that the Outlaws lost. Nice work, Houston. Makin' me proud
willow moon
Feckin friends left me alone at the party. Wow I really feel like it was a good decision to be social instead of cheering for LA
balmy wolf
i dont have any preference for owl teams
visual glen
shields up today
trim shadow
Hunters break shields
tawny sigil
GLADIATOR, boom boom
willow moon
visual glen
trim shadow
Shaz looks like a mii character
visual glen
lol
willow moon
This night every shot I take will be for
sinful rune
that ult usage from gla :(
visual glen
What happened 
visual glen
lol Decay
minor flame
Decay misses everything
balmy wolf
Christ the question is hard
Which DPS will do the most damage in map 2
it's double sniper
balmy wolf
its the hunter curse, win 3 games then lose the rest
which means their gonna win this game
willow moon
How’s the second map going?
tawny sigil
shengdu full held on B
swift moth
Shaz is an actual god holy shit
Also I’m here to say I hate watching games with Orissa
balmy wolf
I don't mind
willow moon
Cheers Lio
balmy wolf
mainly cause the alternative is goats and some triple dps
which means mainly 2-4 teams are always on top
this one at least is more close
tawny sigil
jinmu trying to pull a dding
jinmu aka ricegum
lag is gonna get full held on A aren't they
balmy wolf
yep
visual glen
upper hawk
Gladiators are makin me so mad rn. They look terrible
tawny sigil
thos god damn last push always make it man... whats the deal
balmy wolf
the prophecy is happening
tawny sigil
GLADIATOR boom boom
swift moth
@tawny sigil it’s the desperation push. When you commit everything
tawny sigil
it does the same in my ranked games
swift moth
Also decays aim improved greatly from map 1 to 2
upper hawk
Gladiators need this so bad. They have the spark, SF and VAL in 3 of their last 4
They cant be throwing away maps to a team like this
sinful rune
It would have been really funny if he said "No"
That would have been totally him lol
tawny sigil
we'll have to get double draw first before we get escort draw
severe junco
i still don't understand why new zealand gets league pick rewards but australia doesn't
tawny sigil
different laws
severe junco
not... really?
australia can get rewards for watching streams
just not league picks
forest raven
We don't get random 100 drops either
severe junco
i still don't really understand, on one hand, the AFL exists, but apparently league picks are too much?
forest raven
We only get the three tokens every hour
severe junco
so stupid
severe junco
1-1
1:36 left in the time bank, hunters attack
1 point capture
d
grav wasted by lateyoung
visual glen
Beyblade Pog
severe junco
Overtime, hunters don't have 2nd
willow moon
sinful rune
beyblade lol
swift moth
Glads looking clean on reaper Mei
Idk why they run void tho
He plays mainly dva, no hog
severe junco
@swift moth you just answered your own question
glads have really sharp flex dps today
swift moth
Explain why that would mean no hog
swift moth
Ok
swift moth
Decay popping off
sinful rune
Ok dva is better against moira/ana and roadhog is better against anything else
opaque cargo
is mei-reaper worse than goats?
sinful rune
But dva is especially good against Ana, if you dont eat a moira orb its no big deal, but you can eat all of ana's heals and more importantly keep the nades from fking your team
People don't like watching it lmao
they wanna see genji and tracer
opaque cargo
there's some skill shots with icicles which is nice, but freezes are residentsleeper
severe junco
this should mean king's row glads win
willow moon
I knew S4 wouldn’t disappoint me!
tawny sigil
EZ prophecy win
severe junco
with 2:40 in the timebank too
inland pawn
do people find watching mei more fun than watching goats? literally zzzzzzzzzz
swift moth
@opaque cargo for me yes because I hate orisa and at least goats didn’t have orisa
Orisa = zzzzz
inland pawn
Orisa and Mei are sleepers
severe junco
eh i'm enjoying the meta
swift moth
@severe junco I’d be fine with snipers and Mei if there wasn’t orisa but orisa is meta and I hate it
sinful rune
Yeah I like seeing rein more, and zarya is bae, but gladiators are my team and roar can't play rein for shit. he just feeds
tawny sigil
dont worry, next season we'll have goats 2.0 and its gonna be great
swift moth
I’m also a glad fan, his ríen isn’t the best but his void and decay make up for it
The one thing that annoys me though about role lock is the season winner won’t have anything to do with which team was actually the best for most of the stage
sinful rune
Honestly I liked goats
tawny sigil
goats 2.0 orisa,symm,bastion,brig, 2other of choice
severe junco
Junkertown is the last map
sinful rune
And like, with dps there are A LOT of hero plays, but not so much with goats, With goats it's pretty much ALL coordination with your team, so whichever team is best on goats has the best team coordination. In this meta, whichever team has better dps is better
So it really shows how a team plays together, goats
@swift moth
swift moth
I think the issue with goats though is that you sign your widow Hanzo specialist and then shove them on brig or zarya
Like it screws up a bunch of teams who prepared players for dps
Also goose hates mercy lol
sinful rune
yeah goose loved lucio lol
im an atlanta fan too, b/c of dafran, and honestly his zarya was quite good
His bubbles coulda used a little work, but his tracking is excellent, seeing as how he's a tracer/soldier player
swift moth
He was very flexible as are many streamers
sinful rune
With a lot of teams they kind of struggled with the zarya, brig is easy enough to play and learn, but it's hard on the players who were excited to play dps in OWL and then have to play brig
How it worked was projectile played brig and hitscan played zar, usually, and it was awkward for a lot of widow/mcree players
Like birdring had a rough go of it
Paris didn't have a good enough zarya
Houston has zarya problems whenever they didnt run spree
had*
visual glen
Fuck a meta that renders an entire category of heroes obsolete
Regardless of teamwork
sinful rune
Oh and when atlanta lost dafran they really struggled with zarya @swift moth
swift moth
Yeah ik
sinful rune
poor babybay, he tried :l
swift moth
@visual glen the only hero that I want to be obsolete is orisa
tawny sigil
man, im struggling not falling asleep, just end it
visual glen
Orisa is sleeper to play and watch
sinful rune
What ever happend to Diya?
forest raven
He's still on dragons
sinful rune
Haven't seen him, and he was good
willow moon
How is the match?
forest raven
2-1 glads so far
sinful rune
4th round, chengdu got all 3 on junkertown but it was in OT
GLA seem to be pushing all right so far
@willow moon
They rolled 1st point, lets see how they do 2nd
willow moon
visual glen
sinful rune
i know its to get back to cart but its nice to see the surefour tracer again
chengdu capped with no time and GLA got like 3 mins, which means theyll have almost 4 where chengdu will have 1
balmy wolf
seems like dva is slowly pushing hog out of the meta
sinful rune
i honestly want dva to die
Dva has been a pivotal part in every meta in the game since its creation
tawny sigil
baby dva meta, make baby dva usefull
sinful rune
Im bored of dva, seeing dva played is sorta sleeper at this point
SO basically, if they have mei or ana, you have dva, if they don't, you have god
hog*
lol god
visual glen
Hunters kindly C9 kthx
sinful rune
map 5
inland pawn
HOLY
tawny sigil
god dammit
minor flame
I genuinely think that they should sub in Baconjack for YXL
balmy wolf
lol choke
minor flame
YXL has not been performing well
forest raven
visual glen
NOT LIKE THIS
balmy wolf
JINMU
forest raven
Why this gotta be my favourite team
sullen berry
Mu saved
minor flame
Jinmu my fucking dream hero
forest raven
balmy wolf
damn those arms be swole from all that carrying
upper hawk
What the actual fk
upper hawk
YXL is awful
forest raven
Glads aren't getting into playoffs lmao
minor flame
hesgetting too outclassed
YXL isnt performing to his usual level and hes giving Decay too much control
upper hawk
I really wish S4 could play widow. Hes one of the sickest in the league
balmy wolf
Just cause he's a good widow doesn't mean he'd perform better than decay
sinful rune
Decay isn't one of the best widows, but surefour is, that means that he'd perform better than decay
upper hawk
From following the team id say hes much better than decay but i also dk if decay can play hanzo at all
So that might be why
sinful rune
decay can't play hanzo
And surefour actually likes hanzo
So that's what they're doing
upper hawk
Bleh
sinful rune
surefour is slightly better on hanzo than hydration, so he's in for the double sniper
and hydration cant really play mei/reaper
Ilios is honestly my favorite map
And probably one of the best
I'd say control point is everyone's favorite gamemode
sullen berry
oh nice
forest raven
I like all three gamemodes equally
sullen berry
those claim tokens don't take very long to get added to your acc
sinful rune
All 3 xD
forest raven
Fuck you damn kiwi
sullen berry
🥝
forest raven
Australia doesn't get tokens from league picks
sullen berry
that's the biggest insult
forest raven
We also don't get the random 100 drops
sinful rune
Do you mean escort, hybrid, and control point @forest raven
forest raven
Payload, hybrid, and koth ofc
sinful rune
thats literally what i said but phrased differently
forest raven
I said the proper names
sinful rune
ok void has been very questionable
with his self destructs
and same with goose's barriers
tawny sigil
The prophecy is fulfilled
visual glen
shields up
forest raven
We won pog
echo quest
Bazzi better play instead of Adora
balmy wolf
hmmm spark or charge?
echo quest
Spark
dreamy cave
who plays next?
sullen berry
me
sullen berry
The battle of the guang and hang
swift moth
Idk who will win
sullen berry
this match last stage was great
sullen berry
Eileen's doomfist messed with Spark until Krystal learned how to switch heroes midgame to win
visual glen
Krystal is gone 🦀
supple prism
think there was something about high ranks not liking control
damn non-scrolling chat bs
sinful rune
wait krystal was suspended?
minor flame
happy day for happy
supple prism
Krystal was doing some funky shit, is still doing?
sullen berry
he's still in China
minor flame
yeah
sullen berry
Eileen Muh boy
sullen berry
they know what you're going to throw at them
supple prism
whats the organizations options to deal with Krystal?
sullen berry
since Krystal wants to be in charge of his own problem by not playing into the org's responsibility
dim raptor
sparks intro song is so bad
sullen berry
they did give him the visa he needed to return and didn't pick it up
minor flame
sparks song isnt railgun op
so
basically Krystal fucked over his career
like after this season
hes gonna get booted
and his chances of getting into another team is gonna decrease immensely
balmy wolf
He's a spoiled cunt who thought he could manipulate things
supple prism
no
sinful rune
Oh ok so im just going paranoid
So like, I have 9 correct picks and 6 incorrect, but the rewards section says i only have 3 correct picks
supple prism
other wise i would be at 1
balmy wolf
I think it's cause Mei is like a soft doom counter and with orisa hog being meta, that's also another soft doom counter
sinful rune
i got my first 2 pics wrong, gz are going to have the most elims and HS are gonna win, but I picked the reverse :(
empty pebble
Wow the Taiwanese were so salty over baconjack being "useless" just now
visual glen
Doom might not be the pick here
balmy wolf
and spark look like their normal selves again