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pearl stratus
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@limber pine Shroud wasn't joking when he said that btw. He just has a game IQ of OW so low he makes subreddits look smart.

night tusk
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I saw shroud playing

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he has maybe some aim skill but low game sense

pearl stratus
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He has the game IQ of a dead cow.

night tusk
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I just realize that we know so much as OW players instead of those new ones

pearl stratus
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His three stack is the type of stack I hate playing with.

night tusk
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if he wants to improve maybe start watching all karq videos xd

pearl stratus
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Because the three of them play nothing useful, then whine a bunch. Thankfully they're only whining in discord.

night tusk
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he is also not using voice

pearl stratus
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I mean not using voice is fine, realistically.

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It's just bad hero picks and a stack that plays nothing useful.

karmic grotto
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Shroud plays OW

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picks Soldier

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pearl stratus
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I tried explaining to him that dps kind of don't ever matter on ladder, and that a proper tank/support from his stack would make his games a lot more enjoyable than putting the most important people on his team on pugs.

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But he just whined about smurfs.

karmic grotto
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he's just bad

pearl stratus
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Mechanically gifted, but he just doesn't know anything about the game yet.

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His Tracer tracking for instance is already nutty, and he's learning blink melees.

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But you can't really carry in OW.

karmic grotto
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Can't carry when tanks don't create space

echo quest
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@hidden vault Janus and Fl0w3r weren’t involved in anyway. Flow3r also asked his teammates not to say anything

marble sable
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?

echo quest
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Wrong @

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Sorry

hidden vault
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I see

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Xepher said something but not send any death threats?

tight vault
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u watch reddit

night tusk
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I’m from the Netherlands so kinda funny to see something ow related on a non ow subreddit

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Just see this aswell

tight vault
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hmm

night tusk
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In the dutch post they say that the voice actor is dutch and he confirmed it

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I expected him to be american from the trailer

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Sadly no dutch players in OWL but they are not that good anyway :p only dutch person in the league is one assistant coach of Reign

tight vault
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i dont think theres any irish players ZenyattaCry

trim shadow
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thats the VA

trim shadow
karmic grotto
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lmao

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a bit late

tight vault
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a bit

echo quest
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@hidden vault The other three members sent threats and said that she was cheating. Xepher said the player could potentially be cheating. Flow3r and Janus said nothing

hidden vault
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I think what Xepher said was not too bad?

echo quest
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Ye

tawny sigil
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pro tips, dont watch epsn OW video on youtube, cause youtube will start recommending me real sports shit

sweet stag
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lmao

balmy wolf
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Why watch dudes throw a ball when you can watch gamers kill eachother in strategic ways for less moneys

sterile fox
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for no moneys

pearl stratus
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Well.

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Sigma ult kind of theoretically ruins bunker.

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So A+.

tawny sigil
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where are his abilities

pearl stratus
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On stream.

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He's not technically released for another hour.

tawny sigil
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what stream

little silo
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he is on the ptr now

balmy wolf
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Is he invulnerable when ulting?

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Cause if not building his ult will be the main big issue

echo quest
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No

balmy wolf
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Cool so while he focusing on getting a good shot, he can be melted down or like most main tank ults just counter with a trans or CC him out of it

echo quest
pearl stratus
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I'm perfectly okay with this, tbh.

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Though Sigma + D'va is going to be Mr and Mrs. Pacman.

balmy wolf
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Thats probably a bug

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Jeff made it very clear that he isnt supposed to be able to eat CC but the damage it does

pearl stratus
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I mean he's not eating the CC.

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he's eating the projectile.

trim shadow
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Wait sigma is on PTR?

pearl stratus
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It impacts with his eat prior to his body.

trim shadow
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On my way

pearl stratus
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I think the question becomes more about 'How big is the eat hit box"

balmy wolf
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Jeff literally stated for the Zarya ult specifically that he would eat the damage that it did but not the CC itself which on the KarQ video he did both which isnt the intended effect

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It’s a bug not another DVA matrix

pearl stratus
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Just as a side note.

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I'm putting in an early patent for Moon Mine.

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Being the combo of Sigma + Hammond.

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It's a great shits and giggles combo.

little silo
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also known as Come on and slam

trim shadow
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so stylosa said he would throw rocks in his kit

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god dammit why was stylosa right

pearl stratus
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Because Astrophysicists know a little something about comets.

trim shadow
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so

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would his left shift

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be a direct counter to pharah

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holy fuck sigma has a cool ult

night tusk
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im a main tank player I hope I don't suck in playing him ZaryaLUL

trim shadow
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im really curious as to how hell be used in pro play

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considering he has no mobility

balmy wolf
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As a flex player i have trouble seeing him replace really any main tank

trim shadow
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but he does have a knockback

balmy wolf
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It’s a pretty shitty knockback

trim shadow
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it seems to knockback bots but i needa see how it will knockback players

little silo
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he can be active without having to rely on his shield which is pretty neat

trim shadow
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his shield is weird since you gotta hold it to place it

night tusk
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I can see mano being someone who mastered him before he is in OWL

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be sigma might be in season 3 dafranLife

trim shadow
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inb4 rascal mastered him

night tusk
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fissure did practice hammond really hard before OWL but than goats was still meta

trim shadow
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so with his ult..it seems he gets hold it place while his enemies are

night tusk
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I honestly can't wait another off season.. last off season was so boring dafranKEK

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we just had mykl leaks lol

trim shadow
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it was long and grueling tbh

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mykl is a fortnite pleb now

night tusk
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and leakboy guy is not leaking aswel... forgat his name

leaden frost
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I win esporys

night tusk
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slasher

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slasher is only complaining on twitter instead of leaking lol

trim shadow
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i wonder if he and zarya has any voice lines to each other

night tusk
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we have OWWC this off season atleast 😃

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and this year might even be better

trim shadow
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oh fuck i forgot subtiltes is a thing in ptr

night tusk
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I saw on reddit/youtube there was a deaf player who made it to top 500. it would be really usefull for him

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and saw once a deaf OWL VAL fan in OWL

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on seagull stream someone (i think a dev) mention that zarya sigma can be good

trim shadow
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zarya or dva

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but thats a very inmobile tank line

night tusk
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I hope somehow zarya do have playtime in 222 lock so we can finally see off tank players on zarya again

trim shadow
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shes gonna get playtime

night tusk
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Zunba, Geguri, Poko, let them play zarya again

trim shadow
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but not on

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big maps

night tusk
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I dont expect it on this season (comming stage and playoffs)

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bunker only dafranLife

trim shadow
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imagine thinking Owl teams will stoop to bunker

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unless there in the bottom 5

night tusk
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on watchpoint some mentioned dive. and I think the koreans like mano and gesture just want to play winston again the right way

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I wonder what hunters will do in 222 lock

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bastion torb 222 ZaryaLUL

trim shadow
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guxue will be in his home enviroment n ow

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chengdu might go clockwork honestly

night tusk
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mei torb ?

trim shadow
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ye

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some CHEESE

night tusk
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I can see charge pick more doom pharah

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eileen doom

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but this stage will be really fun. we will see who will flex. for example lets say shock want rascal baptiste. than he is locked on 1 map on support

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maybe we see hotba take the dps role for example, maybe another player do something like this aswell

pearl stratus
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Btw his poop toss its not about the knockback imo.

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It also looks like a quick knockdown.

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Which means ult interruption.

trim shadow
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i was thinking the same like
cancelling pharah ult or cancelling a rein shatter

pearl stratus
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A knockdown would also mean it stops things like leap, charge, doomfist punch, etc.

balmy wolf
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Do you guys think xqc is good enough to play for the world cup canada team

west shard
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so does anyone know if the novo on stage 4 week 5 general admission is under the balcony or combined of under and in front of balcony?

gaunt acorn
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@balmy wolf of course

echo quest
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@balmy wolf best main tank Canada has by a wide margin

balmy wolf
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He looked kind of rusty during scrims

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But when he’s playing well he’s so amazing

trim shadow
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thats why

balmy wolf
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Difference between on and off stream xqc is also pretty big

echo quest
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He look meh with Note. Great with mouffin

trim shadow
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cause note is meh

echo quest
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Lol

trim shadow
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note is good at landing dva bombs

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thats pretty much it

echo quest
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Bruh

balmy wolf
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Mouffin is pretty fucking great

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But its not like note is trash lol

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Xqc used to play with mouffin also right

echo quest
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No

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Mouffin is a ladder player

balmy wolf
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Oh hmmm i didnt recall correctly then

karmic grotto
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Ladder player beats OWL pro

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ironic

trim shadow
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jjonak

echo quest
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Jjonak is an outlier lol

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Soloqed 3 accounts in top 5

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Fucking monster

sterile fox
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he also said that he doesn’t like Anamo in a vid and flipped off Mano

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absolute savage

echo quest
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He gets bullied by Mano which is justified

sterile fox
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bruh

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Jjonak bullies literally everyone else in nyxl

echo quest
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Doesn’t matter when he gets smacked by Mano at 12 am lol

pearl stratus
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I'd say they should have a tournament to decide king of the house.

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But they'd just all lose.

echo quest
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Mano or mek0 would probably win

jade minnow
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hi

sterile fox
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is Mano smacking him at 12am the meme that he uses in his vids?

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cuz i think i missed out on that moment

echo quest
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It’s because Mano goes to sleep and jjonak starts streaming at that time

sterile fox
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i heard Mano complain about the noise from Jjonak

trim shadow
night tusk
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sideshow says it

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no better hog orisa combo than gesture and fury

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reinforce have a good stream right now

tropic herald
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Choi Smurf might be a good Orisa Hog

night tusk
little silo
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choi is an insane hog idk if Fury can compare

night tusk
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saw you season 1 finals ?

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junkertown

tropic herald
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Well that was last year?

night tusk
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oh my mistake

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that was maybe even the flex support

little silo
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Bdosin played hog there

tropic herald
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Choi has had consistency recently

night tusk
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xd

little silo
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Choi almost turned the finals around

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Adapted insanely well to dding

night tusk
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I think space will show how good he can be aswell but choi for sure aswell but! like what they mentioning

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its about the best combo tank

little silo
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Pretty much carried shock for 3 maps

night tusk
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choi might not be that good with super/smurf unlike how good gesture/fury is

little silo
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Well we have a ton of Orisa we can expect good things from

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Gamsu and Youngjin are good at it

tropic herald
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I think once Orisa proves to be meta Super will commit to her like he did with rein

little silo
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all the new main tanks will show off their Orisa

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I know Guxue and Ameng have a fairly good Orisa so maybe they will surprise us

night tusk
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spree back says sideshow

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what would be best on his opinion

little silo
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well coolmatt is a dva onetrick

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its spree or the dva onetrick

tropic herald
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Gamsu should have a good Orisa

little silo
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He does have one

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He has shown it off a few times

night tusk
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he did play orisa good on this stage even on season 1

tropic herald
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Gamsu imo is the most well rounded and good MT in the league

little silo
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But Mano

night tusk
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mano hammond ?

tropic herald
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Oh shoot you right, expect Mano ball?

little silo
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idk about his ball but the rest is really good

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Also guxue

night tusk
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xQc does not play ball aswell. we will see if canada picks him

little silo
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Guxue has a great rein, the best Winston in the league imo, a good Orisa and a good ball

night tusk
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but stats say something else atm 😦

little silo
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very well rounded but his Winston is just on another level compared to the rest

tropic herald
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I’m saying Gamsu is good/great at the MTs

little silo
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stats dont matter that much

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Yeah Gamsu is great

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But Mano and Guxue are also very well rounded and idk who to put on top

tropic herald
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Also if Gamsu doesn’t get the Denis award I’m gonna be mad

night tusk
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reinforce says he can be afraid that ellivote is build for goats. we dont know how good they are in dive

tropic herald
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I’d say Mano, Guxue, Gamsu

little silo
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Custa and Gamsu are the only candidates imo

night tusk
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pretty intressting stuff. talking about fusions how long he did not play winston

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in dive

little silo
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custa raised a lot of money for the St Jude cancer research foundation

tropic herald
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That’s really cool

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I like Gamsu’s dog

little silo
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everyone does

night tusk
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did mickie played this season

tropic herald
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No

night tusk
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if not, why don't release him next year

tropic herald
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He’s a morale booster

little silo
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jersey seller

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mickie is very popular

night tusk
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don't play him 2 years just to sell jerseys 4Head

little silo
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well he is washed up

tropic herald
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He isn’t that great

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But he has an amazing personality

echo quest
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I love Guxue but Mano is the best main tank in the league

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Slightly worse winston but better rein

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If Mano isn’t the final 5 for mvp their is something wrong with the voting

tropic herald
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Oh Mano imo is MVP worthy

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Easily deserves it

balmy wolf
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So

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With the new 222

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Off support is gonna just be all heroes except Lucio mercy?

cold lance
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I dunno

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But moira is gonna be nasty

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If any team utilizes her offensively, I dunno itll probably just be Ana Lucio

balmy wolf
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I thought Stage 4 wasn't gonna have any new changes patch wise except for 222

trim shadow
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it isnt

upper niche
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playoffs won't have new hero either.

trim shadow
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Sigma might release before owwc

tropic herald
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Nope

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Wait

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I’m dumb

elder shell
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(Not sure if it goes here but it’s for an esports team) Ok anyone got suggests for a team name? Theme is wolf, wild, and folklore

echo quest
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Which pros do you see retiring at the end of the season?

gaunt acorn
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quite a few, but i can't think of many examples right now

echo quest
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Honestly maybe OGE

trim shadow
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Maybe

hidden vault
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I see fissure coming back

trim shadow
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if like

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one of the CN teams need him

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seeing as stellar and mistakes got yanked out of retirement

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anything can happen

echo quest
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Knowing Blizzard they won’t do shit

river ember
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has team south korea been announced yet?

summer willow
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no

balmy wolf
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You guys think FRAN has the potential to make into a contenders team?

onyx jacinth
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Depend if she puts in the time

balmy wolf
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I mean she already tweeted she was scrimming.

onyx jacinth
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Then maybe

runic pollen
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can someone tell me the basicis in overwatch esports?

echo quest
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Wdym?

onyx jacinth
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Like OWL? Or how to get to OWL? Or contenders?

tawny sigil
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path to pro > contenders > owl

onyx jacinth
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Don’t forget open division

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Unless your a god on the Korean servers then you can do fine in reg contenders

echo quest
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Or just finish multiple accounts in top 10 multiple times and go straight to OWL

onyx jacinth
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Bigggg brain plays how to get to OWL right there

echo quest
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Worked for jjonak

runic pollen
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owl in general

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like in league we have much diffrent leagues lec lck lcs and so on

echo quest
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Ah kk. OWL is one big league

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With teams from different cities from various countries

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So The Koreans,Chinese and Western all play against each other

echo quest
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I may be tripping but I had someone called Tizi in one of my games

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Jjanu was also on his team but they were both solos

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Slime is qing with Tizi rn

tawny sigil
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game in the game browser?

karmic grotto
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...

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this dude legit could have been in OWL

echo quest
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Injuries are a bitch

karmic grotto
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did he broke some nerve?

echo quest
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Pretty sure it’s carpal tunnel

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It’s a chronic wrist injury

karmic grotto
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FUni bad

runic pollen
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what is top 3 teams to have an eye on ? in owl @echo quest

tawny sigil
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Seoul is korean team and they are number one in the world, uncontested since the game came out.

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im sure thats what most uneducated viewers think

nova wadi
forest raven
echo quest
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@runic pollen Shock,Titans and Shanghia

naive garden
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It will be interesting to see how Washington performs in 2-2-2

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Especially with their new pickups

echo quest
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Doesn’t matter now

naive garden
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Sure it does

little silo
pearl stratus
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@naive garden I mean technically it doesn't.

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they could win every game, every map, pure golden stage.

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They still can't make playoffs.

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So it really doesn't matter.

trim shadow
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Scus me what

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Curryshot got a owl job?

forest raven
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Curryshot OMEGAPOGCHAMP

trim shadow
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Holy fuck i remember watching curryshot way back when

naive garden
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Can make the stage playoffs though

pearl stratus
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There are none.

echo quest
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When you realize funi is 6th place in Korea

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Korea NuMba one

pearl stratus
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Stage 4 has no playoffs, it goes right into the play in for Finals.

naive garden
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Wait, really?

pearl stratus
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So Washington can be amazing, it literally doesn't matter.

naive garden
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When did that change?

pearl stratus
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They spent too long being dog shit.

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When Season 2 was announced.

naive garden
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huh

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I don't like that change

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Then again, I dont think theres even stages next season so

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

pearl stratus
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7th through 12th does a play in bracket to see who gets to go to the finals.

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It replaces stage playoffs because finals matter more.

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And there isn't. Thank god.

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Stages are stupid.

trim shadow
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Stages are just

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reasons to give players breaks

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They wouldn’t work in traditional sports

tawny sigil
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what am i gonna care about next season, early stage i tend to not care cause the stakes are not high, the stage made me care when the underdogs started to popoff

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season 3 just sound like its gonna ruin it for me

trim shadow
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Then thats ur fault

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Cause next season will be the season owl takes a step forward

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I expect viewers to come@flocking in

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1.home games
2. Full season
3. New rosters hopefully
4. Sigma

balmy wolf
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When does the new season start cause we get a hero every like 4 months

tawny sigil
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next year

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home game is just pointless for people watching at home,

balmy wolf
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I mean month

tawny sigil
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in febuary or something

echo quest
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How is it pointless lol

trim shadow
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Febuary

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End of febuary

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@echo quest dont feed the troll

limber pine
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Football, baseball, soccer, and almost all other traditional sports aren't "pointless" for people watching at home

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why would OWL be pointless?

karmic grotto
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if I can't watch OWL in home based I can't reach, I enjoy watching it live. Sure, it's not the same experience, but I enjoy the matches

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:)

trim shadow
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If i cant drive to a atlanta falcons game cause they can only play in shanghai

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What reason do i have to care?

chilly osprey
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to sell trash offbrand merch

limber pine
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You wouldn't watch an Atlanta Falcons game on TV?

upper hawk
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The whole idea of having televised sporting events is because most ppl cant go to the games

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And if they do its sporadically

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And i mean the average joe. Not ppl who are well off enough to have season tickets

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Its more exciting to have teams play in their home cities

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To me its rly lame for every team to have to play games at blizzard arena which is a dinky television studio

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It was still fun to go there but overall the place isnt terribly impressive

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Its small af, no food except for snacks and drinks

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And half the upper section is empty

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Im excited to see what other venues have to offer

upper niche
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Blizzard Arena is actually a really small studio, they don't often show the shots looking back.

raw ermine
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PIR seems cool

hidden osprey
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!schedule

somber yewBOT
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Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 4 Week 1
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night tusk
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charge vs philly

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hope it will be kyb vs fragi

trim shadow
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I messed up F

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The point i was tryna make is

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Some people Dont have a twitch or a Owl app

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Theyll catch the occassional game of the week on ESPN

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More people would wanna go see games live

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And feel the game

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Instead of looking at it behind a screen

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Uk get a beer get a hot dog scream and chant

echo quest
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Fragi probably won’t play

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Kyb neither

trim shadow
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Espn is a jokee

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They put nyxl at 5

hidden vault
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Does coach815 suck? Why release him?

echo quest
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With London nobody knows

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They released bishop after stage 1 last year

marble mason
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Hey so if I wanted to do esports like tournaments how would I enter in

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For ow

gaunt acorn
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join an open division team

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or another tournament that's open at the time

marble mason
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Like how do I do that I've never done anything like that before

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What so do I just like google tornaments

gaunt acorn
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you'd join a team in #lf-players-na, the open division discord, elo hell discord, etc.

marble mason
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Hmmmmm

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Does it matter what rank you are

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Coz in some colleges ik

gaunt acorn
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there are generally teams at every rank

balmy wolf
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Depends on the team.

marble mason
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They have like plat tournaments

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Ik a guy who does that

gaunt acorn
#

elo hell hosts a lot of lower-rank tournaments

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you can also compete in open division as a plat, you just won't win too many games

marble mason
#

I'm in dimond

gaunt acorn
#

same thing, really

marble mason
#

But like I'm not bad I've usually I carry ik that sounds toxiz

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Toxiz

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Toxic

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But I try to every game

gaunt acorn
#

even so, open division is primarily for gm/t500 players to break into the t3/t2 scene

marble mason
#

Go my hardest but comp rn is a joke

gaunt acorn
#

anyone can compete, of course

#

but you'll get rolled most games

marble mason
#

Yeah

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Just like not owl

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On the stage and stuff

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Yeah lol I pry will get rolled

#

So how does team recruitment work

gaunt acorn
#

teams post advertisements seeking players

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players can also post advertisements seeking teams

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people dm each other if they're interested

marble mason
#

Oh ok I gotcha

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Are you in a team or just play for fun

gaunt acorn
#

i'm not in a team currently, no

marble mason
#

What's your sr

gaunt acorn
#

3.8 last i placed

marble mason
#

Very cool

gaunt acorn
#

not cool enough to stand a chance in open division, unfortunately

#

but you get $10 in blizzbucks at the end of the season even if you lose every match

#

so that's nice

marble mason
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😂

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Lol

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I'm a tank main and

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Gengi is my dps

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But I'm absolutely terrible at healer

#

I have to much of an aggressive play style

gaunt acorn
#

in a competing team you wouldn't be expected to fill more than one role, generally

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especially not with role-lock on the horizon

#

so your inability to play supports wouldn't matter

marble mason
#

Yeah 222

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Is were I think I'm gonna really be climing

#

Yeah that's nice

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Also if someone is doing bad as a character should I tell them to pick up someone else

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Coz I dont alot of the time

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But alot of ppl do and then they start to fught

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Fight

balmy wolf
#

So 222 locke intrigues me

gaunt acorn
#

we'll be seeing it tomorrow

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in owl

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pretty surreal

marble mason
#

222 is gonna be alot better than lfg

balmy wolf
#

cause like would that mean there would be a noticable increase in support and tank players in GM? Given the ratio of the player pool in a 222 I mean

marble mason
#

I dont like lfg coz I like to play solo I win more games

balmy wolf
#

Would players who play tank and support at masters level be artificially inflated up there due to 222 cause so much of the player base are dps players

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No not really.

marble mason
#

Like tank and healers have higher sr

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Bc of 222

balmy wolf
#

Not true.

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You'll probs be where you are now if you're climbing at the average rate.

marble mason
#

Idk but like since there is gonna be different placements for each class

#

Is it gonna totally just restart you

balmy wolf
#

No.

marble mason
#

Like if it's the first time you played comp

balmy wolf
#

No.

marble mason
#

Hmmm

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So how's it gonna work

balmy wolf
#

Their gonna use your mmr for the last few months as a reference to place where you're gonna be.

hollow jasper
#

If this is about the PTR changes you should probably talk about them in a different channel

echo quest
#

@marble mason they’ve been tracking you on heroes for some time now

balmy wolf
#

Charge are my dark horse pick for stage 4

marble mason
#

Oh makes sense

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I'm pry gonna be a gold healer then lol

echo quest
#

They have a really hard schedule

#

Dallas is the weakest team they face

marble mason
#

Do you think this will decrease the smurfs

echo quest
#

No

gaunt acorn
#

dallas is probably the weakest team in general lol

echo quest
#

^

gaunt acorn
#

this is after all the esports channel

marble mason
#

True

echo quest
#

They could potentially go 2-5

#

Nvm they face Boston

balmy wolf
#

you think they gonna keep zacharee or drop him for season 3

echo quest
#

Seoul,Spark,NYXL,LDN and Philly is tough

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He gets dropped

balmy wolf
#

But who they gonna pick is up the question. They aren't exactly know for making good roster choices.

#

Nor use them properly.

echo quest
#

Probably hafficool

hidden vault
#

Nahh aero is gonna keep him

raw ermine
#

Any chance Toronto could beat London?

echo quest
#

Nope

raw ermine
#

for real tho

echo quest
#

? Toronto getting 4-0

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Not retiring luckily

#

Still the right move by FUNI to move to Korea

silent cliff
#

F for munchkin

echo quest
#

He’ll probably get picked up

silent cliff
#

guess moving to another team?

upper hawk
#

Itd be kind of silly for FUNI to not move and not be challeneged

#

Thered be no growth

sullen berry
#

@gaunt acorn to be honest, inactive and leaving are two different things, but they just feel the same now

gaunt acorn
#

@sullen berry well he's not retiring

sullen berry
#

do you think he's got a place in Justice?

#

😏

hidden vault
#

Why would munchkin go to justice lol

tawny sigil
#

!schedule

somber yewBOT
#
Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 4 Week 1
<:HOU:438251672821563402> HOU vs PAR undefined

Jul 25th 19:00 EDT (in 17 hours)

<:GLA:438251672632950787> GLA vs NYE <:NYE:438251672997724160>

Jul 25th 20:45 EDT (in 19 hours)

undefined GZC vs PHI <:PHI:438251672536481794>

Jul 25th 22:30 EDT (in 20 hours)

<:SHD:438251672599527437> SHD vs VAN undefined

Jul 26th 00:15 EDT (in a day)

undefined TOR vs WAS undefined

Jul 26th 19:00 EDT (in 2 days)

<:DAL:438251672783814657> DAL vs LDN <:LDN:438251672876351489>

Jul 26th 20:45 EDT (in 2 days)

<:SEO:438251672754585602> SEO vs SFS <:SFS:438251672712642571>

Jul 26th 22:30 EDT (in 2 days)

<:PHI:438251672536481794> PHI vs CDH undefined

Jul 27th 00:15 EDT (in 2 days)

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Jul 27th 15:00 EDT (in 3 days)

<:BOS:438251672633081857> BOS vs GZC undefined

Jul 27th 16:45 EDT (in 3 days)

<:GLA:438251672632950787> GLA vs HOU <:HOU:438251672821563402>

Jul 27th 18:30 EDT (in 3 days)

undefined ATL vs HZS undefined

Jul 27th 20:15 EDT (in 3 days)

<:SHD:438251672599527437> SHD vs SEO <:SEO:438251672754585602>

Jul 28th 15:00 EDT (in 4 days)

<:LDN:438251672876351489> LDN vs TOR undefined

Jul 28th 16:45 EDT (in 4 days)

undefined VAN vs FLA <:FLA:438251672779882506>

Jul 28th 18:30 EDT (in 4 days)

<:BOS:438251672633081857> BOS vs CDH undefined

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tawny sigil
#

what a great first day

karmic grotto
#

That's odd

marble mason
#

Hello

#

Lol I dont have a life so I'm gonna be on here

hidden vault
#

You could watch contenders and attempt to boost the viewership

sterile fox
#

mMmNgnmkHjmg i want my owl

forest raven
sterile fox
#

yeah well Leave can fukin leave amirite

karmic grotto
#

But where is Alarm?

#

@forest raven ??

forest raven
#

He's still on Funi

karmic grotto
#

_>

#

why isn't he signed yet

hidden vault
#

If you sign him

#

You have to ask boombox to scram

#

Could you bare?

sullen berry
#

Leave the Chinese Flow3r

#

Could he get picked for OWWC? Probs

little silo
#

alarm turned 18 after the signing window closed so they couldnt sign him this season

#

also ofc they will replace Boombox without a second thought

hidden vault
#

Then it wouldn't be just boombox

karmic grotto
#

so how

#

did they sign LEave

#

when he isnt 18 yet

hidden vault
#

Yes they did

#

Just that he would play next year

karmic grotto
#

[promotion

hidden vault
#

And on a side not i wouldn't call leave the chinese flow3r

#

Flow3r is kinda washed up now and he plays hitscan

karmic grotto
#

?

hidden vault
#

Coach

#

WOW

sullen berry
#

thanks dray

#

too bad the DPS decided to Leave 2 stages ago

trim shadow
#

Ayeee leave signed with chengdu

#

Kuki coach what?

#

So huh baconjack is probably gonna get dropped

limber pine
#

probably

hybrid helm
#

Is it confirmed to have 2-2-2 in owl stage 4?

#

Or still rumors/leaks?

tawny sigil
#

yes

hybrid helm
#

Ok nice

#

I think things will change a lot now

#

Probably lots of mercy and 0 brig

#

Washington will probably still suck but other low tier teams could go higher and some top tier team can look mediocre

naive garden
#

I think Washington will look much better this stage

#

They just picked up a new tankline

#

And Corey can play Widow

pearl stratus
#

Tank line won't be here till Week 2 at the earliest, 3 most likely.

sullen berry
#

Rewatching Corey last stage on widow

sterile fox
#

nyxl please

sullen berry
#

He's the only NA Sniper that pops off as well

#

Besides the only streaky plays I have of colourhex

pearl stratus
#

Surefour, but they relegated it to Decay. Though rumor mill has potential for a lot of Mei as well

#

KSF has also done -really- well on Widow.

#

So there's a few NA widows right now.

#

Corey just looks insane because compared to the rest of his team you're surprised someone actually killed someone.

trim shadow
#

🤔 so hes not stuck in china or korea wherever he went

hybrid helm
#

I think clockwork comp can become common in owl and even op maybe

#

Because with 2-2-2 lock you can’t have 3 or 4 dps comps, you can have goats, etc

#

Your options are basically rein Zarya 2-2-2 which is underwhelming on almost every map

#

Orisa Hog comps (can also include double sniper)

sullen berry
#

@pearl stratus superlatives required to validate Corey on a team that suffers so much suck. I didn't think they would peak at 19th

hybrid helm
#

And old good dive

#

Which is gonna struggle a bit imo

sullen berry
#

Watch shanghai closely against Vancouver

#

Match of the day

hybrid helm
#

Definitely

sullen berry
#

Compared to what I'm honestly interested in

#

GZ vs Philly

#

Or the Fragi grudge match

hybrid helm
#

But I think clockwork meta can become a thing

#

With lots of double sniper

#

Like clockwork / double sniper meta

sullen berry
#

Teams are not going to run clockwork comp through an entire match, including the ones that favour it religiously

#

I'm sure there's a reason to believe it will Continue

#

But dive metas teams will assemble

sterile fox
#

ok can someone explain clockwork comp

hybrid helm
#

What about teams that lack good snipers?

sullen berry
#

What teams lack snipers

pearl stratus
#

Clockwork Comp:

hybrid helm
#

I think dive will struggle

pearl stratus
#

Boil oil on your stove.

#

Dip your testicles in it.

#

There you go. You've dealt with clockwork comp.

#

It's more boring than goats with less overall skill

sullen berry
#

You could also say I don't know but that works

hybrid helm
#

Clockwork = Orisa Hog Mei Torb Mecy/Zen Ana/Zen

pearl stratus
#

I do know.

sullen berry
#

Shit I don't thinks worth knowing at this point

pearl stratus
#

A real answer is that its a shit comp thats boring af to watch and will make for horrible mirror.

sullen berry
#

222 allows it

hybrid helm
#

@sullen berry teams that lack good snipers*
Top tier snipers to match vs players like Diem and others

#

I think Shock lacks top tier snipers? I mean Striker is good but not top tier imo.. he has his moments where he pops off for a week or stage even but I don’t think he’s on par with Carpe/Diem

pearl stratus
#

Carpe isn't on par with Carpe/Diem.

#

Carpe wouldn't even make top 3 anymore, at this point. Too emotional.

sullen berry
#

But what mileage is OW League team going to get when fielding players' with skills beyond that and not some shoehorned composition in a region that's all about their comp game

#

Happy Crew > Carpe crew of one

pearl stratus
#

Individual skill level Happy is probably top. Cohesiveness Diem + Dding is probably one of the scariest.

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because they make it impossible to focus on one of them without being destroyed by the other.

sullen berry
#

Diem absolutely smokes on dps

hybrid helm
#

I feel that Happy is overhyped by caster. I didn’t see him deliver as much as they talk.
He got pretty dominated at a match I watched I think vs Diem? Idk

sullen berry
#

@hybrid helm you're missing the archiect part of your sniper duo

hybrid helm
#

Architect is good but he’s like a super flex not a widow specialist

#

He’s like profit kind of players imo

pearl stratus
#

Striker is a silly good Widow, but we've seen one map of it in a year.

#

So I think writing him off this early is ignorant.

sullen berry
#

And it took the release of brig to realise he had to be good at widow

#

But dude's been playing hanzo iirc

hybrid helm
#

@pearl stratus im pretty sure Diem and dding played a smart game of baiting the enemy pharah into 1v1ing Dding and into los of Diem.. I was suspecting they do that when watching live.. they probably are

#

They do such things.. one of them baits you into the shots of the other

pearl stratus
#

Last I checked his profile Striker (and granted this is ladder) dropped his crit percentage on his widow account.

#

He's now at 37% crit with a little over 1000 hours.

hybrid helm
#

Shanghai is by FAR the most enjoyable team to watch imo.. throughout the whole season

sullen berry
#

I want to see the London trash fire happen in a meta that should favour them after Going 3:3 for the past 3 stages

hybrid helm
#

@pearl stratus crit percentage is kinda fked because it depends how much you fight hammonds lol

little silo
#

or orisa

hybrid helm
#

No Orisa you can easily hs

little silo
#

exactly

pearl stratus
#

When you average out 1000 hours though.

hybrid helm
#

Now she moves faster tho

pearl stratus
#

You eliminate that kind of bias.

hybrid helm
#

Not really eliminate because the more you play, the more hammonds you fight as well

#

It’s all relative and percentage based

little silo
#

1000hr span over multiple metas

sullen berry
#

Not to call you out but

#

Hammond does take crits too

little silo
#

so some of this was against double sniper, goats, quad dps etc

sullen berry
hybrid helm
#

Yea technically

#

But not when rolling

#

Lol

pearl stratus
#

Either way, its a stupidly high average crit hit percentage regardless of variables. I think once he gets over stage nerves again he'll end up fine.

#

He's got such great options for duo partners too.

hybrid helm
#

But nothing forces you to hit body shots like Hammond. Regardless of how good your aim is

naive garden
#

I wanna see more Logix Widow

pearl stratus
#

Striker Rascal when both are comfortable?

little silo
#

judging Striker based on that one map wouldnt make sense

pearl stratus
#

There ya go.

sullen berry
#

Youngjin personally

#

Eyes on Diya getting subbed in this stage

little silo
#

idk

pearl stratus
#

I mean his one map wasn't even horrible.

sullen berry
#

As benchable as Krystal is at this point

hybrid helm
#

I’m just sad that we didn’t see much Rascal Sombra during the Sombra Times

#

I miss the old good rascal Sombra haha

pearl stratus
#

Rascal was playing more vital roles to be fair.

little silo
#

Considering that it was his first map in a year and a stage final thats correct

hybrid helm
#

Sombra is cancer but he was good at it

pearl stratus
#

Picking up two supports at high level.

sullen berry
#

Brigtiste actually gives him great flex opportunities with out subbing out

#

And if their fluid roster mentality is still a thing

#

It will become really obvious how much that has shaped up and improved since with 222 lock

#

Rascal sombra could happen

#

Two dps slots will feel awkward when you see shock play their first game

hybrid helm
#

I think shock won’t be as good with 2-2-2 lock. Because I remember super being mediocre last season.
My point is, I don’t think Super can be as good in 2-2-2

#

But we’ll see

tawny sigil
#

and sinatraa being not worth 150k aswell

#

unless they keep him on zarya

hybrid helm
#

This season he kinda was yea

hidden vault
#

They have smurf

hybrid helm
#

But I just can’t stand his cringy personality lol

#

I guess he’s a kid lol

#

True they’re probably gonna play smurf almost all the time

little silo
#

you cant compare last years Super and Sinatraa to this year

fallow tiger
#

Spitfire&Fusion>titans

karmic grotto
#

Dragons > all

hidden vault
#

Titians are probably gonna win them

karmic grotto
#

today is the

#

rematch

balmy wolf
#

!schedule

somber yewBOT
#
Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 4 Week 1
<:HOU:438251672821563402> HOU vs PAR undefined

Jul 25th 19:00 EDT (in 8 hours)

<:GLA:438251672632950787> GLA vs NYE <:NYE:438251672997724160>

Jul 25th 20:45 EDT (in 9 hours)

undefined GZC vs PHI <:PHI:438251672536481794>

Jul 25th 22:30 EDT (in 11 hours)

<:SHD:438251672599527437> SHD vs VAN undefined

Jul 26th 00:15 EDT (in 13 hours)

undefined TOR vs WAS undefined

Jul 26th 19:00 EDT (in a day)

<:DAL:438251672783814657> DAL vs LDN <:LDN:438251672876351489>

Jul 26th 20:45 EDT (in a day)

<:SEO:438251672754585602> SEO vs SFS <:SFS:438251672712642571>

Jul 26th 22:30 EDT (in a day)

<:PHI:438251672536481794> PHI vs CDH undefined

Jul 27th 00:15 EDT (in 2 days)

undefined PAR vs VAL <:VAL:438251672720900097>

Jul 27th 15:00 EDT (in 2 days)

<:BOS:438251672633081857> BOS vs GZC undefined

Jul 27th 16:45 EDT (in 2 days)

<:GLA:438251672632950787> GLA vs HOU <:HOU:438251672821563402>

Jul 27th 18:30 EDT (in 2 days)

undefined ATL vs HZS undefined

Jul 27th 20:15 EDT (in 2 days)

<:SHD:438251672599527437> SHD vs SEO <:SEO:438251672754585602>

Jul 28th 15:00 EDT (in 3 days)

<:LDN:438251672876351489> LDN vs TOR undefined

Jul 28th 16:45 EDT (in 3 days)

undefined VAN vs FLA <:FLA:438251672779882506>

Jul 28th 18:30 EDT (in 3 days)

<:BOS:438251672633081857> BOS vs CDH undefined

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echo quest
#

Adora is getting benched

#

Also Leave to chengdu is official let’s fucking go. Also F to Baconjack

#

Bazzi should be brought back now

limber pine
#

both Bazzi and Nosmite are coming back

echo quest
#

Oh pog

karmic grotto
#

But Alarm... Chansik... Bernar

#

I guess Fusion plans to have them in OWL

#

but if they don't show it in Korea Contenders

echo quest
#

It’s fine they are losing. Other than Gen g every game has ended 2-3 or 3-2. Playing in the hardest region is good because they won’t get fazed going into OWL.

balmy wolf
#

So like correct me if I’m wrong

echo quest
balmy wolf
#

But like cant any OWL team pick up players from every other team?

echo quest
#

Wdym?

balmy wolf
#

Like say florida picks up players from atlanta contender’s team?

#

Thats doable right?

echo quest
#

They can if Atlanta doesn’t want to sign them

#

Or the player doesn’t like Atlanta’s offer

#

But the OWL of the academy team gets first signing rights

balmy wolf
#

so players who are in a contenders team cant just accept offers they like?

echo quest
#

They can definitely

balmy wolf
#

Is there a grace period of sorts for signing?

limber pine
#

What do you mean "grace period"?

#

There's a window that players can be signed.

#

which is now over for the season AFAIK.

echo quest
#

It closes July 7th

pearl stratus
#

People are still announcing things because there is no reason for them to announce it until they want to.

balmy wolf
#

So like say today. If a team walked up to the philly academy team and was like “yea we’ll take alarm” can they just do that?

echo quest
#

Nope

balmy wolf
#

Is that cause of the timing or do they have to run it by ppl first

echo quest
#

The OWL teams get signing rights

balmy wolf
#

Trill is a good example of that.

#

Another team wanted him so dallas signed him to prevent that.

echo quest
#

^

balmy wolf
#

No team can buy alarm due to the fact that fusion will just sign him first or just out bid you.

echo quest
#

Philly must be Changsik and Bernar nicely for them not to be in owl

balmy wolf
#

I think some of them have 100k salary, which is insane for contenders players.

#

So like

#

If a team wants to sign a contenders player

#

They have to run it past another team of said contenders player and they have to say “no cause we are signing him” or “yes you can have him”

echo quest
#

Basically

balmy wolf
#

So for trill

#

Did dallas actually want him or did they just like not want other teams to have him

trim shadow
#

If a team wants trill they would have negotiate with envy

#

Dallas was playing him so they probably wanted him

#

Idk ahy

#

Why

balmy wolf
#

I thought that was cause OGE was burned out

#

I think mayhem wanted him. Which make sense.

pearl stratus
#

Academy Teams, more so than your standard teams, have fully contracted players. So for another team to offer they'd need to buy out the contract, etc, etc, etc. Which gives time for the main team to counter offer, sign them, etc.

#

Mayhem wouldn't have wanted Trill.

#

he's not Korean.

trim shadow
#

Was about to say

balmy wolf
#

Remember the western players?

pearl stratus
#

Also at no point can an org actively stop an OWL team from buying a player - if the player agrees.

#

The rules are crafted to prevent that sort of system specifically. The best the other org can do is counter offer.

balmy wolf
#

Oh boi all the matches are good today.

little silo
#

except the first one

balmy wolf
#

Meta has been shifted and set

#

We probs maybe get to see Soon again

little silo
#

which is the only one I can probaly watch completely

#

vancouver v shanghai will be good

#

not sure who wins that

balmy wolf
#

uhhh I'm curious about the philly charge match

little silo
#

shanghai might just be a playoff monster

balmy wolf
#

Will see how they do when other people also play dps

#

I don't expect them to be the top team this stage

#

Happy might step up his widow game

#

Everyone's widow will be decent, so coordination will the deciding factor. Even if you have good widow players.

little silo
#

shanghai were super inconsistent but then suddenly monstered the playoffs

balmy wolf
#

Hot streak maybe

little silo
#

idk if they will keep up a good performance or drop back to inconsistent again

#

every single player on shanghai looked completely different in the playoffs

balmy wolf
#

Hard to say, their dps duo is strong, but their off-tank lineup is meh.

little silo
#

does it need to be a tank player on tank in role lock or can they run Youngjin on Hog

supple prism
#

Good question

little silo
#

that would make them very predictable whenever Youngjin is subbed in though

balmy wolf
#

They are locked

#

They can have players swap roles once theyre on a different map

#

But not swap mid game

#

But having younjin is high risk, high reward.

#

They gotta do well on orisa/hog or else they'll just crippled themselves.

little silo
#

youngjin can run tank then okay

#

they will probably rotate offtanks to experiment

#

Alternate between Youngjin and Envy if they want a Dva

balmy wolf
#

I dont expect london or philly to pull another season miracle out of their ass

#

Both of their coordination is still bad.

little silo
#

especially philly

#

carpe wont be the hard carry he was last year

balmy wolf
#

They'll simply get out brained by the other team half the time.

little silo
#

eqo isnt a super impressive dps either

balmy wolf
#

Philly in general isnt impressive anymore

#

Poko bombs are rare nowadays

#

Gonna be funny again when another team doesn't go to their home arena.

echo quest
#

Philly will win against charge cuz Eqo and carpe

#

Fucking bullshit

#

Super and Guxue but no Mano

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Fuck this shit

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Legit retarted

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Also why are these decided before stage 4 ends?

naive garden
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Everybody knows that Sleepy is the real MVP.

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Tells the Justice he'll buy them Ice Cream if they Win

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Ends up winning the game

balmy wolf
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that clip was amazing to see

echo quest
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When the best main tank in the league gets snubbed

upper hawk
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Is it a normal thing in video game leagues for the league to just completely change the rules mid season?

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it just seems to odd to me to have a team dominate and then go...YOINK screw what youre best at now adjust

echo quest
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Imagine if the mvp is a bench boy in stage 4

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Fucking garbage voting system

upper hawk
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Super has been dominant on a hero that will probably hardly be played this stage

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It is kind of dumb

echo quest
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Also sinatraa

upper hawk
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yeaaah true hes going to the bench probably

echo quest
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Guxue is getting it

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Easily the most popular player plus 2/2/2

pearl stratus
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It's the Tmobile mvp.

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Think of how stupid most people are on reddit, in this channel, etc.

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That's who is voting.

upper hawk
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XD

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It should be coaches vote

limber pine
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the coaches vote is what created the top 5 no?

balmy wolf
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think so

limber pine
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yeah the GMs of all 20 teams

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so, blame them if you guys don't like who's there

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That being said, I think it's a fairly poor top 5

balmy wolf
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Also Aspen is going pro.

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So that's interesting to see.

echo quest
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Guxue is getting. 25% of fan votes. Remember nobody on titans or Shock were starting on the All star roster

karmic grotto
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???

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Aspen going pro

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dyes her hair color?

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coincidence?

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I THINK NOT

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Also, when are the votes of MVP completed?

echo quest
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August 30th

karmic grotto
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Guxue

little silo
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jjanu over choi?

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No Dding either

echo quest
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Dding team is 8th place

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Plus no slime or Choi

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Feelsbadman

balmy wolf
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Who’s first atm

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Wait mb read that wrong

sterile fox
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where

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is

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Mano

raw ermine
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You know they polled the GM's of the teams to determine the top 5.

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They would know who is the best, if anyone

sterile fox
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nah

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coaches have shown that they are not to be trusted

raw ermine
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the collective league tho?

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More accurate

balmy wolf
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absolute horse shit

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honestly

little silo
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does she have a team yet?

balmy wolf
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she doesn't even deserve top 16 OD, ive played her plenty of times

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i hope she proves me wrong

karmic grotto
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@balmy wolf I was thinking: does she deserve it?

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I haven't seen her in top 500 yet

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not top 400, 300, 200, 100

little silo
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i thought she reached it multiple times

karmic grotto
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being carried

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then she reaches it

balmy wolf
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shes been t500 solo

karmic grotto
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once?

balmy wolf
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but t500 doesnt even guarantee top 32 od lmao

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nah, several times

karmic grotto
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ah

balmy wolf
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shes consistently 4200+

karmic grotto
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but she lacks so much experience

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how will she play in owl without much experience

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doesnt make sense becaue she says next year

balmy wolf
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i mean to be completely fair

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What team

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im37 was in the same boat

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and it honestly soundd like she mesns that she wants to join an owl team

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it doesnt say shes confirmed for one

little silo
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instantly going to OWL seems highly unlikely for her anyways

balmy wolf
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to be completely fair to her

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i know im very critical

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but im37 took a couple weeks

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and runaway was slated to do terribly in owl

karmic grotto
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But it was said from runaway... and of course KDP that they were owl level

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and look where they are

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kicking ass

balmy wolf
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to other players runaway wasnt gonna do much

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I mean people didn't expected them to be number 1, only mid tier at best.

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They've only actually won 2 tournaments or something before entering OWL.

little silo
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that version of runaway really upped their game once they got into OWL though

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i didnt expect them to be bad but there are like 2 leagues between runaway and the Vancouver Titans when it comes to their play

balmy wolf
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Tho it still baffles me why people underestimated them in the beginning. They literally won contenders playing goats and were undefeated in the regular season playing goats.

little silo
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i would have at least put them into my top 8 for sure

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Probably higher

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but i didnt expect this dominance

balmy wolf
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Me either, but then we realize most OWL teams can't do an actual goats team that well.

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It’s not that they underestimated but I think they just rated every other team more highly

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Ppl thought Paris was gonna be the top dog in goats meta

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And we see how that turned out

little silo
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did anyone actually believe that

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with that roster

echo quest
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I think people rated OWL so much better than any contender region. Ark has said that there is no gap between Contenders Korea and OWL

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Looks like he was right

balmy wolf
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Pretty much.

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The top 4 teams in KR contenders would beat most OWL teams.

little silo
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O2 Blast would probably beat everyone except for Top 8

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maybe even more

balmy wolf
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In a goats scenario, prob almost everyone.

little silo
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but with the meta shift that 2-2-2 is gonna cause I have no idea how many they could beat

balmy wolf
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Welp contenders playoffs is gonna be role lock sooo.....

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Dumb move really.

little silo
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great idea

balmy wolf
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Meh

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Question for you guys

little silo
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might make it more interesting though

balmy wolf
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Sombra goats was dominant against regular goats seemingly in stage 3

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With role lock in place, how does it affect her power level

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Cause I think it weakens her honestly

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Good against bunker, thats pretty much it.

little silo
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im expecting to see some Hackfist

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Also in stage 4 the role lock balance changes arent implemented yet

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so sombra remains unchanged

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at least thats what I assume

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so we have role lock without the balance changes

balmy wolf
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Comp wise I expect to see mainly bunker with double sniper, bastion sniper, pharmercy, and maybe cyber dive

little silo
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Mostly Dive, Bunker, double sniper and maybe some hackfist

balmy wolf
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Might see mei.

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I do not expect much dive

little silo
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more situational

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we will see a lot of comps at the start because teams will need to experiment to find the best comps

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It could be anything

echo quest
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I swear the Competitive overwatch reddit has some of the dumbest people

balmy wolf
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But the best comp would undoubtedly be bunker due to all the buffs theyve done to it like for stage 2

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Yea it does

echo quest
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Chipsa is fucking trolling and they take the bait lmao

night tusk
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anyone hyped of today matches ? 😛

little silo
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no i hate good matchups

sterile fox
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i need to sleep between now and the matches and that is sad

harsh lodge
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does anyone know if Agilities was in tryouts for OWWC Canada?

raw ermine
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he was

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There were multiple groups playing I think

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or he just missed the first tryout

trim shadow
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Guxue owl mvp

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Do it

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So whos picking her up 🤔

karmic grotto
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har fan club

balmy wolf
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No idea. Leggo said she’s might just be attempting to go pro but hasnt been confirmed to be apart of any team yet

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And truth be told besides as a jersey seller I dont see why any team would pick her up since most if not all have pretty top grade flex supports

little silo
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i thought she was a main support

balmy wolf
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Main support characters are mercy and lucio
Flex support is everybody else.
The names for the roles are just outright confusing but this is actually what they are and if you wanna know why @balmy wolf

trim shadow
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The roles might get swapped around with 222

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But i could also be wrong

little silo
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But she only plays Mercy and Lucio right

trim shadow
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She is a pretty good MS

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Ive seen her play so

balmy wolf
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

trim shadow
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Someone is gonna give her the shot

balmy wolf
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I mean yea on ladder

echo quest
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She should go to OD

balmy wolf
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Ladder vs trials vs contenders vs OWL

trim shadow
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She says shes going straihjt to owl

balmy wolf
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Very different monsters

trim shadow
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Straight*

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Watch the video

echo quest
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So pulling a jjonak?

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GL to that

trim shadow
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Yes

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Or a 37

balmy wolf
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expect jjonak had 4-5 accounts in top 10

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No body has been able to do a jjonak since jjonak and I dont see it happening

echo quest
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3 in top 5

balmy wolf
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and 37 was a very special case

trim shadow
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Aspen was a t500 i think

echo quest
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Put some respect on jjonak’s name boi

trim shadow
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At least t500 the top 10 are either owl or gods

balmy wolf
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Maybe Atlanta would pick her up?

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Dont know how she compares to dogman or kodak tho

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uuhhh atl are on a perfect streak in contenders rn

trim shadow
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Well

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If she sticks to what she did on ladder

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Were not gonna need her

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Masaa is pretty

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Good

echo quest
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Ladder is nothing like pro lmao

trim shadow
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Consistent