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He has the game IQ of a dead cow.
I just realize that we know so much as OW players instead of those new ones
His three stack is the type of stack I hate playing with.
if he wants to improve maybe start watching all karq videos xd
Because the three of them play nothing useful, then whine a bunch. Thankfully they're only whining in discord.
he is also not using voice
I mean not using voice is fine, realistically.
It's just bad hero picks and a stack that plays nothing useful.
I tried explaining to him that dps kind of don't ever matter on ladder, and that a proper tank/support from his stack would make his games a lot more enjoyable than putting the most important people on his team on pugs.
But he just whined about smurfs.
he's just bad
Mechanically gifted, but he just doesn't know anything about the game yet.
His Tracer tracking for instance is already nutty, and he's learning blink melees.
But you can't really carry in OW.
Can't carry when tanks don't create space
@hidden vault Janus and Fl0w3r weren’t involved in anyway. Flow3r also asked his teammates not to say anything
?
I was watching reddit
Seems that Sigma is Dutch
u watch reddit
I’m from the Netherlands so kinda funny to see something ow related on a non ow subreddit
Just see this aswell
hmm
In the dutch post they say that the voice actor is dutch and he confirmed it
I expected him to be american from the trailer
Sadly no dutch players in OWL but they are not that good anyway :p only dutch person in the league is one assistant coach of Reign
i dont think theres any irish players 
a bit
@hidden vault The other three members sent threats and said that she was cheating. Xepher said the player could potentially be cheating. Flow3r and Janus said nothing
I think what Xepher said was not too bad?
Ye
pro tips, dont watch epsn OW video on youtube, cause youtube will start recommending me real sports shit
lmao
Why watch dudes throw a ball when you can watch gamers kill eachother in strategic ways for less moneys
for no moneys
where are his abilities
what stream
he is on the ptr now
Is he invulnerable when ulting?
Cause if not building his ult will be the main big issue
No
Cool so while he focusing on getting a good shot, he can be melted down or like most main tank ults just counter with a trans or CC him out of it
I'm perfectly okay with this, tbh.
Though Sigma + D'va is going to be Mr and Mrs. Pacman.
Thats probably a bug
Jeff made it very clear that he isnt supposed to be able to eat CC but the damage it does
Wait sigma is on PTR?
It impacts with his eat prior to his body.
On my way
I think the question becomes more about 'How big is the eat hit box"
Jeff literally stated for the Zarya ult specifically that he would eat the damage that it did but not the CC itself which on the KarQ video he did both which isnt the intended effect
It’s a bug not another DVA matrix
Just as a side note.
I'm putting in an early patent for Moon Mine.
Being the combo of Sigma + Hammond.
It's a great shits and giggles combo.
also known as Come on and slam
Because Astrophysicists know a little something about comets.
so
would his left shift
be a direct counter to pharah
holy fuck sigma has a cool ult
im a main tank player I hope I don't suck in playing him 
As a flex player i have trouble seeing him replace really any main tank
but he does have a knockback
It’s a pretty shitty knockback
it seems to knockback bots but i needa see how it will knockback players
he can be active without having to rely on his shield which is pretty neat
his shield is weird since you gotta hold it to place it
I can see mano being someone who mastered him before he is in OWL
be sigma might be in season 3 
inb4 rascal mastered him
so with his ult..it seems he gets hold it place while his enemies are
I honestly can't wait another off season.. last off season was so boring 
we just had mykl leaks lol
and leakboy guy is not leaking aswel... forgat his name
I win esporys
i wonder if he and zarya has any voice lines to each other
oh fuck i forgot subtiltes is a thing in ptr
I saw on reddit/youtube there was a deaf player who made it to top 500. it would be really usefull for him
and saw once a deaf OWL VAL fan in OWL
on seagull stream someone (i think a dev) mention that zarya sigma can be good
I hope somehow zarya do have playtime in 222 lock so we can finally see off tank players on zarya again
shes gonna get playtime
Zunba, Geguri, Poko, let them play zarya again
on watchpoint some mentioned dive. and I think the koreans like mano and gesture just want to play winston again the right way
I wonder what hunters will do in 222 lock
bastion torb 222 
mei torb ?
I can see charge pick more doom pharah
eileen doom
but this stage will be really fun. we will see who will flex. for example lets say shock want rascal baptiste. than he is locked on 1 map on support
maybe we see hotba take the dps role for example, maybe another player do something like this aswell
Btw his poop toss its not about the knockback imo.
It also looks like a quick knockdown.
Which means ult interruption.
i was thinking the same like
cancelling pharah ult or cancelling a rein shatter
A knockdown would also mean it stops things like leap, charge, doomfist punch, etc.
Do you guys think xqc is good enough to play for the world cup canada team
so does anyone know if the novo on stage 4 week 5 general admission is under the balcony or combined of under and in front of balcony?
@balmy wolf of course
@balmy wolf best main tank Canada has by a wide margin
thats why
Difference between on and off stream xqc is also pretty big
He look meh with Note. Great with mouffin
cause note is meh
Lol
Bruh
Mouffin is pretty fucking great
But its not like note is trash lol
Xqc used to play with mouffin also right
Oh hmmm i didnt recall correctly then
jjonak
he also said that he doesn’t like Anamo in a vid and flipped off Mano
absolute savage
He gets bullied by Mano which is justified
Doesn’t matter when he gets smacked by Mano at 12 am lol
I'd say they should have a tournament to decide king of the house.
But they'd just all lose.
Mano or mek0 would probably win
hi
is Mano smacking him at 12am the meme that he uses in his vids?
cuz i think i missed out on that moment
It’s because Mano goes to sleep and jjonak starts streaming at that time
i heard Mano complain about the noise from Jjonak
sideshow says it
no better hog orisa combo than gesture and fury
reinforce have a good stream right now
Choi Smurf might be a good Orisa Hog
mr x brenn sideshow and reinforce talking now in reinforce stream https://www.twitch.tv/reinforce
choi is an insane hog idk if Fury can compare
Well that was last year?
Bdosin played hog there
Choi has had consistency recently
xd
I think space will show how good he can be aswell but choi for sure aswell but! like what they mentioning
its about the best combo tank
Pretty much carried shock for 3 maps
choi might not be that good with super/smurf unlike how good gesture/fury is
Well we have a ton of Orisa we can expect good things from
Gamsu and Youngjin are good at it
I think once Orisa proves to be meta Super will commit to her like he did with rein
all the new main tanks will show off their Orisa
I know Guxue and Ameng have a fairly good Orisa so maybe they will surprise us
Gamsu should have a good Orisa
he did play orisa good on this stage even on season 1
Gamsu imo is the most well rounded and good MT in the league
But Mano
mano hammond ?
Oh shoot you right, expect Mano ball?
xQc does not play ball aswell. we will see if canada picks him
Guxue has a great rein, the best Winston in the league imo, a good Orisa and a good ball
but stats say something else atm 😦
very well rounded but his Winston is just on another level compared to the rest
I’m saying Gamsu is good/great at the MTs
stats dont matter that much
Yeah Gamsu is great
But Mano and Guxue are also very well rounded and idk who to put on top
Also if Gamsu doesn’t get the Denis award I’m gonna be mad
reinforce says he can be afraid that ellivote is build for goats. we dont know how good they are in dive
I’d say Mano, Guxue, Gamsu
Custa and Gamsu are the only candidates imo
pretty intressting stuff. talking about fusions how long he did not play winston
in dive
custa raised a lot of money for the St Jude cancer research foundation
everyone does
did mickie played this season
No
if not, why don't release him next year
He’s a morale booster
don't play him 2 years just to sell jerseys 4Head
well he is washed up
I love Guxue but Mano is the best main tank in the league
Slightly worse winston but better rein
If Mano isn’t the final 5 for mvp their is something wrong with the voting
I dunno
But moira is gonna be nasty
If any team utilizes her offensively, I dunno itll probably just be Ana Lucio
I thought Stage 4 wasn't gonna have any new changes patch wise except for 222
it isnt
playoffs won't have new hero either.
Sigma might release before owwc
(Not sure if it goes here but it’s for an esports team) Ok anyone got suggests for a team name? Theme is wolf, wild, and folklore
Which pros do you see retiring at the end of the season?
quite a few, but i can't think of many examples right now
Honestly maybe OGE
Maybe
I see fissure coming back
if like
one of the CN teams need him
seeing as stellar and mistakes got yanked out of retirement
anything can happen
has team south korea been announced yet?
no
You guys think FRAN has the potential to make into a contenders team?
Depend if she puts in the time
I mean she already tweeted she was scrimming.
Then maybe
can someone tell me the basicis in overwatch esports?
Wdym?
Like OWL? Or how to get to OWL? Or contenders?
path to pro > contenders > owl
Don’t forget open division
Unless your a god on the Korean servers then you can do fine in reg contenders
Or just finish multiple accounts in top 10 multiple times and go straight to OWL
Bigggg brain plays how to get to OWL right there
Worked for jjonak
Ah kk. OWL is one big league
With teams from different cities from various countries
So The Koreans,Chinese and Western all play against each other
I may be tripping but I had someone called Tizi in one of my games
Jjanu was also on his team but they were both solos
Slime is qing with Tizi rn
game in the game browser?
Injuries are a bitch
did he broke some nerve?
FUni bad
what is top 3 teams to have an eye on ? in owl @echo quest
Seoul is korean team and they are number one in the world, uncontested since the game came out.
im sure thats what most uneducated viewers think

@runic pollen Shock,Titans and Shanghia
It will be interesting to see how Washington performs in 2-2-2
Especially with their new pickups
Doesn’t matter now
Sure it does
@naive garden I mean technically it doesn't.
they could win every game, every map, pure golden stage.
They still can't make playoffs.
So it really doesn't matter.
Curryshot 
Holy fuck i remember watching curryshot way back when
Can make the stage playoffs though
There are none.
Stage 4 has no playoffs, it goes right into the play in for Finals.
Wait, really?
So Washington can be amazing, it literally doesn't matter.
When did that change?
huh
I don't like that change
Then again, I dont think theres even stages next season so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
7th through 12th does a play in bracket to see who gets to go to the finals.
It replaces stage playoffs because finals matter more.
And there isn't. Thank god.
Stages are stupid.
Stages are just
reasons to give players breaks
They wouldn’t work in traditional sports
what am i gonna care about next season, early stage i tend to not care cause the stakes are not high, the stage made me care when the underdogs started to popoff
season 3 just sound like its gonna ruin it for me
Then thats ur fault
Cause next season will be the season owl takes a step forward
I expect viewers to come@flocking in
1.home games
2. Full season
3. New rosters hopefully
4. Sigma
When does the new season start cause we get a hero every like 4 months
I mean month
in febuary or something
How is it pointless lol
Football, baseball, soccer, and almost all other traditional sports aren't "pointless" for people watching at home
why would OWL be pointless?
if I can't watch OWL in home based I can't reach, I enjoy watching it live. Sure, it's not the same experience, but I enjoy the matches
:)
If i cant drive to a atlanta falcons game cause they can only play in shanghai
What reason do i have to care?
to sell trash offbrand merch
You wouldn't watch an Atlanta Falcons game on TV?
The whole idea of having televised sporting events is because most ppl cant go to the games
And if they do its sporadically
And i mean the average joe. Not ppl who are well off enough to have season tickets
Its more exciting to have teams play in their home cities
To me its rly lame for every team to have to play games at blizzard arena which is a dinky television studio
It was still fun to go there but overall the place isnt terribly impressive
Its small af, no food except for snacks and drinks
And half the upper section is empty
Im excited to see what other venues have to offer
Blizzard Arena is actually a really small studio, they don't often show the shots looking back.
PIR seems cool
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I messed up F
The point i was tryna make is
Some people Dont have a twitch or a Owl app
Theyll catch the occassional game of the week on ESPN
More people would wanna go see games live
And feel the game
Instead of looking at it behind a screen
Uk get a beer get a hot dog scream and chant
Does coach815 suck? Why release him?
Like how do I do that I've never done anything like that before
What so do I just like google tornaments
you'd join a team in #lf-players-na, the open division discord, elo hell discord, etc.
there are generally teams at every rank
Depends on the team.
elo hell hosts a lot of lower-rank tournaments
some are also posted in #tournaments
you can also compete in open division as a plat, you just won't win too many games
I'm in dimond
same thing, really
But like I'm not bad I've usually I carry ik that sounds toxiz
Toxiz
Toxic
But I try to every game
even so, open division is primarily for gm/t500 players to break into the t3/t2 scene
Go my hardest but comp rn is a joke
Yeah
Just like not owl
On the stage and stuff
Yeah lol I pry will get rolled
So how does team recruitment work
teams post advertisements seeking players
players can also post advertisements seeking teams
people dm each other if they're interested
i'm not in a team currently, no
What's your sr
3.8 last i placed
Very cool
not cool enough to stand a chance in open division, unfortunately
but you get $10 in blizzbucks at the end of the season even if you lose every match
so that's nice
😂
Lol
I'm a tank main and
Gengi is my dps
But I'm absolutely terrible at healer
I have to much of an aggressive play style
in a competing team you wouldn't be expected to fill more than one role, generally
especially not with role-lock on the horizon
so your inability to play supports wouldn't matter
Yeah 222
Is were I think I'm gonna really be climing
Yeah that's nice
Also if someone is doing bad as a character should I tell them to pick up someone else
Coz I dont alot of the time
But alot of ppl do and then they start to fught
Fight
So 222 locke intrigues me
222 is gonna be alot better than lfg
cause like would that mean there would be a noticable increase in support and tank players in GM? Given the ratio of the player pool in a 222 I mean
I dont like lfg coz I like to play solo I win more games
Would players who play tank and support at masters level be artificially inflated up there due to 222 cause so much of the player base are dps players
No not really.
Idk but like since there is gonna be different placements for each class
Is it gonna totally just restart you
No.
Like if it's the first time you played comp
No.
Their gonna use your mmr for the last few months as a reference to place where you're gonna be.
If this is about the PTR changes you should probably talk about them in a different channel
@marble mason they’ve been tracking you on heroes for some time now
Charge are my dark horse pick for stage 4
Do you think this will decrease the smurfs
No
dallas is probably the weakest team in general lol
@marble mason move the comp stuff to #overwatch-serious
^
this is after all the esports channel
True
you think they gonna keep zacharee or drop him for season 3
But who they gonna pick is up the question. They aren't exactly know for making good roster choices.
Nor use them properly.
Probably hafficool
Nahh aero is gonna keep him
Any chance Toronto could beat London?
Nope
for real tho
? Toronto getting 4-0
Not retiring luckily
Still the right move by FUNI to move to Korea
F for munchkin
He’ll probably get picked up
guess moving to another team?
@gaunt acorn to be honest, inactive and leaving are two different things, but they just feel the same now
@sullen berry well he's not retiring
Why would munchkin go to justice lol
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what a great first day
That's odd
You could watch contenders and attempt to boost the viewership
mMmNgnmkHjmg i want my owl
yeah well Leave can fukin leave amirite
He's still on Funi
alarm turned 18 after the signing window closed so they couldnt sign him this season
also ofc they will replace Boombox without a second thought
Then it wouldn't be just boombox
[promotion
And on a side not i wouldn't call leave the chinese flow3r
Flow3r is kinda washed up now and he plays hitscan

?
well season 3 is going to be funky https://twitter.com/ChengduHunters/status/1154331393029103617
thanks dray
too bad the DPS decided to Leave 2 stages ago
Ayeee leave signed with chengdu
Kuki coach what?
So huh baconjack is probably gonna get dropped
probably
yes
Ok nice
I think things will change a lot now
Probably lots of mercy and 0 brig
Washington will probably still suck but other low tier teams could go higher and some top tier team can look mediocre
I think Washington will look much better this stage
They just picked up a new tankline
And Corey can play Widow
Tank line won't be here till Week 2 at the earliest, 3 most likely.
Rewatching Corey last stage on widow
nyxl please
He's the only NA Sniper that pops off as well
Besides the only streaky plays I have of colourhex
Surefour, but they relegated it to Decay. Though rumor mill has potential for a lot of Mei as well
KSF has also done -really- well on Widow.
So there's a few NA widows right now.
Corey just looks insane because compared to the rest of his team you're surprised someone actually killed someone.
I think clockwork comp can become common in owl and even op maybe
Because with 2-2-2 lock you can’t have 3 or 4 dps comps, you can have goats, etc
Your options are basically rein Zarya 2-2-2 which is underwhelming on almost every map
Orisa Hog comps (can also include double sniper)
@pearl stratus superlatives required to validate Corey on a team that suffers so much suck. I didn't think they would peak at 19th
Definitely
Compared to what I'm honestly interested in
GZ vs Philly
Or the Fragi grudge match
But I think clockwork meta can become a thing
With lots of double sniper
Like clockwork / double sniper meta
Teams are not going to run clockwork comp through an entire match, including the ones that favour it religiously
I'm sure there's a reason to believe it will Continue
But dive metas teams will assemble
ok can someone explain clockwork comp
What about teams that lack good snipers?
What teams lack snipers
Clockwork Comp:
I think dive will struggle
Boil oil on your stove.
Dip your testicles in it.
There you go. You've dealt with clockwork comp.
It's more boring than goats with less overall skill
You could also say I don't know but that works
Clockwork = Orisa Hog Mei Torb Mecy/Zen Ana/Zen
I do know.
Shit I don't thinks worth knowing at this point
A real answer is that its a shit comp thats boring af to watch and will make for horrible mirror.
222 allows it
@sullen berry teams that lack good snipers*
Top tier snipers to match vs players like Diem and others
I think Shock lacks top tier snipers? I mean Striker is good but not top tier imo.. he has his moments where he pops off for a week or stage even but I don’t think he’s on par with Carpe/Diem
Carpe isn't on par with Carpe/Diem.
Carpe wouldn't even make top 3 anymore, at this point. Too emotional.
But what mileage is OW League team going to get when fielding players' with skills beyond that and not some shoehorned composition in a region that's all about their comp game
Happy Crew > Carpe crew of one
Individual skill level Happy is probably top. Cohesiveness Diem + Dding is probably one of the scariest.
because they make it impossible to focus on one of them without being destroyed by the other.
Diem absolutely smokes on dps
I feel that Happy is overhyped by caster. I didn’t see him deliver as much as they talk.
He got pretty dominated at a match I watched I think vs Diem? Idk
@hybrid helm you're missing the archiect part of your sniper duo
Architect is good but he’s like a super flex not a widow specialist
He’s like profit kind of players imo
Striker is a silly good Widow, but we've seen one map of it in a year.
So I think writing him off this early is ignorant.
And it took the release of brig to realise he had to be good at widow
But dude's been playing hanzo iirc
@pearl stratus im pretty sure Diem and dding played a smart game of baiting the enemy pharah into 1v1ing Dding and into los of Diem.. I was suspecting they do that when watching live.. they probably are
They do such things.. one of them baits you into the shots of the other
Last I checked his profile Striker (and granted this is ladder) dropped his crit percentage on his widow account.
He's now at 37% crit with a little over 1000 hours.
Shanghai is by FAR the most enjoyable team to watch imo.. throughout the whole season
I want to see the London trash fire happen in a meta that should favour them after Going 3:3 for the past 3 stages
@pearl stratus crit percentage is kinda fked because it depends how much you fight hammonds lol
or orisa
No Orisa you can easily hs
exactly
When you average out 1000 hours though.
Now she moves faster tho
You eliminate that kind of bias.
Not really eliminate because the more you play, the more hammonds you fight as well
It’s all relative and percentage based
1000hr span over multiple metas
so some of this was against double sniper, goats, quad dps etc

Either way, its a stupidly high average crit hit percentage regardless of variables. I think once he gets over stage nerves again he'll end up fine.
He's got such great options for duo partners too.
But nothing forces you to hit body shots like Hammond. Regardless of how good your aim is
I wanna see more Logix Widow
Striker Rascal when both are comfortable?
judging Striker based on that one map wouldnt make sense
There ya go.
idk
I mean his one map wasn't even horrible.
As benchable as Krystal is at this point
I’m just sad that we didn’t see much Rascal Sombra during the Sombra Times
I miss the old good rascal Sombra haha
Rascal was playing more vital roles to be fair.
Considering that it was his first map in a year and a stage final thats correct
Sombra is cancer but he was good at it
Picking up two supports at high level.
Brigtiste actually gives him great flex opportunities with out subbing out
And if their fluid roster mentality is still a thing
It will become really obvious how much that has shaped up and improved since with 222 lock
Rascal sombra could happen
Two dps slots will feel awkward when you see shock play their first game
I think shock won’t be as good with 2-2-2 lock. Because I remember super being mediocre last season.
My point is, I don’t think Super can be as good in 2-2-2
But we’ll see
This season he kinda was yea
They have smurf
But I just can’t stand his cringy personality lol
I guess he’s a kid lol
True they’re probably gonna play smurf almost all the time
you cant compare last years Super and Sinatraa to this year
Spitfire&Fusion>titans
Dragons > all
Titians are probably gonna win them
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Adora is getting benched
Also Leave to chengdu is official let’s fucking go. Also F to Baconjack
Bazzi should be brought back now
both Bazzi and Nosmite are coming back
Oh pog
But Alarm... Chansik... Bernar
I guess Fusion plans to have them in OWL
but if they don't show it in Korea Contenders
It’s fine they are losing. Other than Gen g every game has ended 2-3 or 3-2. Playing in the hardest region is good because they won’t get fazed going into OWL.
So like correct me if I’m wrong
Some revelations from YBT’s stream about the OWWC roster
- roster will be submitted by the 25th
- will be revealed sooner than u think
- on the OWWC Korea twitter
- he may face flack for this roster
- it may contain surprises for some ppl https://t.co/esKrZmw6U9
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But like cant any OWL team pick up players from every other team?
Wdym?
They can if Atlanta doesn’t want to sign them
Or the player doesn’t like Atlanta’s offer
But the OWL of the academy team gets first signing rights
so players who are in a contenders team cant just accept offers they like?
They can definitely
Is there a grace period of sorts for signing?
What do you mean "grace period"?
There's a window that players can be signed.
which is now over for the season AFAIK.
It closes July 7th
People are still announcing things because there is no reason for them to announce it until they want to.
So like say today. If a team walked up to the philly academy team and was like “yea we’ll take alarm” can they just do that?
Nope
Is that cause of the timing or do they have to run it by ppl first
The OWL teams get signing rights
Trill is a good example of that.
Another team wanted him so dallas signed him to prevent that.
^
No team can buy alarm due to the fact that fusion will just sign him first or just out bid you.
Philly must be Changsik and Bernar nicely for them not to be in owl
I think some of them have 100k salary, which is insane for contenders players.
So like
If a team wants to sign a contenders player
They have to run it past another team of said contenders player and they have to say “no cause we are signing him” or “yes you can have him”
Basically
So for trill
Did dallas actually want him or did they just like not want other teams to have him
If a team wants trill they would have negotiate with envy
Dallas was playing him so they probably wanted him
Idk ahy
Why
I thought that was cause OGE was burned out
I think mayhem wanted him. Which make sense.
Academy Teams, more so than your standard teams, have fully contracted players. So for another team to offer they'd need to buy out the contract, etc, etc, etc. Which gives time for the main team to counter offer, sign them, etc.
Mayhem wouldn't have wanted Trill.
he's not Korean.
Was about to say
Remember the western players?
Also at no point can an org actively stop an OWL team from buying a player - if the player agrees.
The rules are crafted to prevent that sort of system specifically. The best the other org can do is counter offer.
Oh boi all the matches are good today.
except the first one
which is the only one I can probaly watch completely
vancouver v shanghai will be good
not sure who wins that
uhhh I'm curious about the philly charge match
shanghai might just be a playoff monster
Will see how they do when other people also play dps
I don't expect them to be the top team this stage
Happy might step up his widow game
Everyone's widow will be decent, so coordination will the deciding factor. Even if you have good widow players.
shanghai were super inconsistent but then suddenly monstered the playoffs
Hot streak maybe
idk if they will keep up a good performance or drop back to inconsistent again
every single player on shanghai looked completely different in the playoffs
Hard to say, their dps duo is strong, but their off-tank lineup is meh.
does it need to be a tank player on tank in role lock or can they run Youngjin on Hog
Good question
that would make them very predictable whenever Youngjin is subbed in though
They are locked
They can have players swap roles once theyre on a different map
But not swap mid game
But having younjin is high risk, high reward.
They gotta do well on orisa/hog or else they'll just crippled themselves.
youngjin can run tank then okay
they will probably rotate offtanks to experiment
Alternate between Youngjin and Envy if they want a Dva
I dont expect london or philly to pull another season miracle out of their ass
Both of their coordination is still bad.
They'll simply get out brained by the other team half the time.
eqo isnt a super impressive dps either
Philly in general isnt impressive anymore
Poko bombs are rare nowadays
Gonna be funny again when another team doesn't go to their home arena.
Philly will win against charge cuz Eqo and carpe
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Fucking bullshit
Super and Guxue but no Mano
Fuck this shit
Legit retarted
Also why are these decided before stage 4 ends?
Everybody knows that Sleepy is the real MVP.
Tells the Justice he'll buy them Ice Cream if they Win
Ends up winning the game
that clip was amazing to see
When the best main tank in the league gets snubbed
Is it a normal thing in video game leagues for the league to just completely change the rules mid season?
it just seems to odd to me to have a team dominate and then go...YOINK screw what youre best at now adjust
Super has been dominant on a hero that will probably hardly be played this stage
It is kind of dumb
Also sinatraa
yeaaah true hes going to the bench probably
It's the Tmobile mvp.
Think of how stupid most people are on reddit, in this channel, etc.
That's who is voting.
the coaches vote is what created the top 5 no?
think so
yeah the GMs of all 20 teams
so, blame them if you guys don't like who's there
That being said, I think it's a fairly poor top 5
Guxue is getting. 25% of fan votes. Remember nobody on titans or Shock were starting on the All star roster
???
Aspen going pro
dyes her hair color?
coincidence?
I THINK NOT
Also, when are the votes of MVP completed?
August 30th
Guxue
You know they polled the GM's of the teams to determine the top 5.
They would know who is the best, if anyone
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absolute horse shit
honestly
does she have a team yet?
she doesn't even deserve top 16 OD, ive played her plenty of times
i hope she proves me wrong
@balmy wolf I was thinking: does she deserve it?
I haven't seen her in top 500 yet
not top 400, 300, 200, 100
i thought she reached it multiple times
shes been t500 solo
once?
ah
shes consistently 4200+
but she lacks so much experience
how will she play in owl without much experience
doesnt make sense becaue she says next year
i mean to be completely fair
What team
im37 was in the same boat
and it honestly soundd like she mesns that she wants to join an owl team
it doesnt say shes confirmed for one
instantly going to OWL seems highly unlikely for her anyways
to be completely fair to her
i know im very critical
but im37 took a couple weeks
and runaway was slated to do terribly in owl
But it was said from runaway... and of course KDP that they were owl level
and look where they are
kicking ass
to other players runaway wasnt gonna do much
I mean people didn't expected them to be number 1, only mid tier at best.
They've only actually won 2 tournaments or something before entering OWL.
that version of runaway really upped their game once they got into OWL though
i didnt expect them to be bad but there are like 2 leagues between runaway and the Vancouver Titans when it comes to their play
Tho it still baffles me why people underestimated them in the beginning. They literally won contenders playing goats and were undefeated in the regular season playing goats.
i would have at least put them into my top 8 for sure
Probably higher
but i didnt expect this dominance
Me either, but then we realize most OWL teams can't do an actual goats team that well.
It’s not that they underestimated but I think they just rated every other team more highly
Ppl thought Paris was gonna be the top dog in goats meta
And we see how that turned out
I think people rated OWL so much better than any contender region. Ark has said that there is no gap between Contenders Korea and OWL
Looks like he was right
In a goats scenario, prob almost everyone.
but with the meta shift that 2-2-2 is gonna cause I have no idea how many they could beat
great idea
might make it more interesting though
Sombra goats was dominant against regular goats seemingly in stage 3
With role lock in place, how does it affect her power level
Cause I think it weakens her honestly
Good against bunker, thats pretty much it.
im expecting to see some Hackfist
Also in stage 4 the role lock balance changes arent implemented yet
so sombra remains unchanged
at least thats what I assume
so we have role lock without the balance changes
Comp wise I expect to see mainly bunker with double sniper, bastion sniper, pharmercy, and maybe cyber dive
Mostly Dive, Bunker, double sniper and maybe some hackfist
more situational
we will see a lot of comps at the start because teams will need to experiment to find the best comps
It could be anything
I swear the Competitive overwatch reddit has some of the dumbest people
But the best comp would undoubtedly be bunker due to all the buffs theyve done to it like for stage 2
Yea it does
Chipsa is fucking trolling and they take the bait lmao
anyone hyped of today matches ? 😛
no i hate good matchups
i need to sleep between now and the matches and that is sad
does anyone know if Agilities was in tryouts for OWWC Canada?
he was
There were multiple groups playing I think
or he just missed the first tryout
Guxue owl mvp
Do it
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So whos picking her up 🤔
har fan club
No idea. Leggo said she’s might just be attempting to go pro but hasnt been confirmed to be apart of any team yet
And truth be told besides as a jersey seller I dont see why any team would pick her up since most if not all have pretty top grade flex supports
i thought she was a main support
Main support characters are mercy and lucio
Flex support is everybody else.
The names for the roles are just outright confusing but this is actually what they are and if you wanna know why @balmy wolf
But she only plays Mercy and Lucio right
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Someone is gonna give her the shot
I mean yea on ladder
She should go to OD
Ladder vs trials vs contenders vs OWL
She says shes going straihjt to owl
Very different monsters
expect jjonak had 4-5 accounts in top 10
No body has been able to do a jjonak since jjonak and I dont see it happening
3 in top 5
and 37 was a very special case
Aspen was a t500 i think
Put some respect on jjonak’s name boi
At least t500 the top 10 are either owl or gods
Maybe Atlanta would pick her up?
Dont know how she compares to dogman or kodak tho
uuhhh atl are on a perfect streak in contenders rn
Well
If she sticks to what she did on ladder
Were not gonna need her
Masaa is pretty
Good
Ladder is nothing like pro lmao
Consistent