Not going to university directly is fine
#esports-discussion
echo quest
pearl stratus
College is great if you know what you want. The US spent too much time demonizing trades, etc.
So I never thought of it as an option.
echo quest
But you should get the diploma at least
balmy wolf
US college is bad for the most part in terms of cost. In other countries it's way better.
pearl stratus
It's not just the cost honestly. At some point the US decided that manual labor was bad, and we discouraged it heavily.
We're in a situation now where electricians, plumbers, etc, make absurd amounts of money because we just don't have enough anymore since it was beaten out of people as an option so often.
Master Electricians in my area currently can demand 35-60$ an hour.
echo quest
Damn
balmy wolf
Well since were going off topic I'll say this. Right now its good to look into blue collar jobs since there is a transitional period of workers retiring. Which means more jobs that pay a lot.
upper hawk
Its the ideals of making as much money as possible so HS teaches to go be a lawyer, a doctor, etc
trim shadow
But like that would make taxes higher?
upper hawk
Its pretty dumb
little silo
not everyone is cut out to be a lawyer
pearl stratus
It does make taxes higher, but usually not at a crazy noticeable amount compared to the debt people put themselves into
balmy wolf
^
pearl stratus
i.e. the monthly payments for student loans heavily outweigh the interest in free education in most systems
upper hawk
Ive seen ppl mention being nearly 200k in debt from college
trim shadow
Honestly
upper hawk
Like that is absurd
pearl stratus
Doctors and lawyers get like that fast.
balmy wolf
Never go to Trump University
pearl stratus
And lawyers get fucked, because there's not enough open positions.
trim shadow
A scientist a lawyer
pearl stratus
Since we had an entire generation be bred to be lawyers since it was the big money.
trim shadow
Id goto trump university
little silo
i guess the next generation will be bred to become electricians
trim shadow
Trumps a buisness god
pearl stratus
Right now its all about what /kind/ of lawyer you are.
My friend got lucky, she went to Suffolk for law.
And chose to specialize in copyright law, specifically around comic books.
upper hawk
Probably adds to the collective anxiety/depression also since just flat out, not everyone can be that
pearl stratus
She graduated right around the big boom of the movies.
Got snapped up -real- quick.
But that was just pure luck.
She picked something nerdy since she's a dork
pearl stratus
Not disneys.
balmy wolf
Seems like the trend for EU players to get into OWL is to join a NA team.
little silo
NA academy team
balmy wolf
that specifically
trim shadow
Lullsish
balmy wolf
You think envy can complete a perfect contenders season?
little silo
perfect as in not dropping a match or not dropping a map
balmy wolf
Kind of funny to think team envy is better at goats than their OWL counterpart
trim shadow
For once
Espn made a point
This off season players are gonna get paid
Bruhhh
I just realized houstons fucked
tropic herald
Why
hidden vault
Yes why?
balmy wolf
@trim shadow
trim shadow
So@immortals bought them
But immortals cant have more then two teams
So there in limbo
While immortals is cleaning out optic for leauge of legends
And then there gonna have to be resold
hidden vault
Mehh someone just buy optic from them real quick:p
balmy wolf
I mean if anyone has a spare +20 Million Dollars
trim shadow
Lul
balmy wolf
Chump change for companies
trim shadow
F for@houston
hidden vault
Well if they players and all staff do not get paid one month
I think they may be able to fork out the money:p
balmy wolf
Well they get paid pretty garbage anyway
balmy wolf
Well they are getting payed like normal, its just that nothing can happen within the org since immortals bought it.
And apparently they sucked at finding new owners for them.
trim shadow
I think outside of boston
Houston is probably the other team with minimum contracts
Besides jake
Cause he is houston
So i doubt when someone buys hes gone
But rawkus and boink are in jeoprady
balmy wolf
Well the whole team can be in jeopardy if a new owner comes in.
trim shadow
And i fear thats the case
pearl stratus
The only situation where that could be the case would be if another org that has a pre-existing team they wanted, and were eligible, to move up bought them. And i don't currently foresee that.
balmy wolf
It's a rare situation that can happen, but the most likely new to happen with a new owner is more staff for the team.
hidden vault
Rusha houston supporter?
reef tinsel
Geguri benched = Shanghai Dragons viable? Pog
trim shadow
Nah
I support houston going through player reform@tho
Or just like
Signing people
echo quest
You know what I remember from Dallas s1?
On Kings row the whole team charged in with trance just to kill a support and then got obliterated immediately right after
echo quest
It was against Boston stage 2
trim shadow
So basixcally
Two teams in asia lets say chengdu seoul
Will@have homestands
And then in the us lets say valiant vancouver
Homestands?
upper hawk
Interesting to see the players barely know whats happening with 2-2-2
And its a pretty smart idea to do just a 3 week asian homestand and thats all. Having to travel there multiple times would be pretty crappy
It also looks like the bookended bye weeks around the travel to asia and europe
Must be the travel and time zone adjustments for both ways
hidden vault
This is trial outs roster
upper niche
@gaunt acorn Pretty sure that leaked example schedule is for Dallas Fuel.
upper niche
Interesting, so Dallas play Toronto twice in Toronto?
And don't play Vancouver in Vancouver - unless it's just an error in the clearly stated 'example' schedule.
I worked backwards. If it's the obvious I was able to decude, the first one is in Vancouver, the second one is North, in Toronto.
upper hawk
Its possible. Some teams will have a minimum of 2 homestands i think it was. So if a canadian team is one of them, i doubt theyll cram 19 matches into two weekends
At least based on their last description of the format
balmy wolf
DF is one the few teams that decided to have the max of 5
upper hawk
Washington was another
Oh damn Vancouver gets to play where the Canucks play? Thats awesome
gaunt acorn
will be nice to attend a match for once
hidden vault
Do you think it's possible we get a majority Canadian team in owl?
gaunt acorn
you mean roster-wise? no
hidden vault
Yes
gaunt acorn
not unless toronto makes moves to acquire surefour, agilities
hidden vault
Yes Unlikely
Which nationality would be likely then?
Other then full korean/chinese/American
gaunt acorn
well, we saw how swedish went
hidden vault
Well techically Swedish was Scandinavian
We saw how chinese went in season 1
But look at them now
tropic herald
Guangzhou also has 5 home stands
gaunt acorn
you could make a full finnish team
tropic herald
Fragi, big goose, Shaz... who else
gaunt acorn
rck
hidden vault
Linzker taimou
gaunt acorn
that's a starting 6 right there
tropic herald
That’s actually a pretty good roster
gaunt acorn
well, one possibility
tropic herald
Except where is there flex dps
hidden vault
Lcouldy
tropic herald
Their
hidden vault
Ripa
hidden vault
But I doubt it
tropic herald
So there is just not Finnish projectile players?
hidden vault
I think he plays hit scans also
echo quest
@hidden vault you’ll see more Chinese rosters
But I don’t think you’ll ever see all Canadian unfortunately
hidden vault
Maybe?
I kinda wanna see more teams with different nationalities instead of just korean, korean mixed
echo quest
They linked the povs for team Canada’s tryouts pog
hidden vault
I think alot of others feel the same way
echo quest
I honestly don’t care. The best players are Korean. Everyone else should git gud
It’s like that in every sport
hidden vault
Yet at the same time if we want the players to get in with their own skills and not their nationality
We will see a majority korean
Maybe much more
gaunt acorn
canada still punches above its weight
balmy wolf
Course it's culture
Gaming is taken seriously in korea the same way american football is in the states
echo quest
For example Doublelift is considered the greatest North American of all time in League of legends. One of the greatest western ADCs. He doesn’t touch the Korean or Chinese ADCs
balmy wolf
That will probably make the other countries step up in a couple decades once they realize there is mad money in the game
tropic herald
It’s just like every other sport there is always a group of people who take it way more seriously than everyone else
balmy wolf
yea cause they got a culture that really really enables that type of mentality
echo quest
Team Canada tryouts should be live now pog
hidden vault
Well look at Olympics table tennis badminton
balmy wolf
if you played video games all day over there in a pc bang you'd be taken seriously. if you play video games all day here you would be looked at like a joke
hidden vault
Most countries bought chinese players
echo quest
It’s just crazy how Doublelift every time he meets a Chinese or Korean ADC he gets destroyed
hidden vault
echo quest
Yet is easily the best adc in NA
hidden vault
What's adc?
hidden vault
Oh
balmy wolf
Think of it as like their widow
it's not an exact 1:1 comparison but it's close enough to make the point
with that said
do not play league of legends
Genuinely from 4 years of playing it, League is significantly worse than OW in terms of toxicity
echo quest
Easily
hidden vault
What about dota?
echo quest
What about it?
gaunt acorn
the 17 people still playing HotS all get along swimmingly
echo quest
China Numba one in Dota boiiii
echo quest
Roles are locked
balmy wolf
It's a meme that blizzard does not give a shit about heroes of the storm and pulled the plug on the esports scene
to focus and put money into Overwatch
jagged crater
lol they didnt fix that bug
jagged crater
i think from the leaked conference , teams arent even sure yet
trim shadow
role lock is what is expected for rank
tropic herald
The teams better know that 222 is coming
trim shadow
also puckett said theres a show on thursday for stage 4 so if that isnt 222 IS COMING i dont know what to tell you
teams were informed of 222 but apperantly they werent informed of how it will work
tropic herald
He goes: we have an announcement on Thursday
trim shadow
which im gonna assume thats what the show is for
echo quest
That’s what I meant 2-2-2
echo quest
Probably where you can’t pick more than two of each class lmao
trim shadow
probably
tropic herald
Hmm what would they call that
trim shadow
sideshow looked extra happy doing so
tropic herald
Oh that’s right 222
jagged crater
it's a soft role lock if it's using the inbuilt 222
trim shadow
a hard role lock is i think what leauge has
where you chose a lane
and thats your lane and youll get matched up with other that chose certain lanes
jagged crater
think soft role lock would be nicer so you can swap roles if you're not feeling it
tropic herald
I just thought, we are only getting 222 no role q :(
trim shadow
222 im predicting is just..you cant run over people with 3 tanks
role que a youtuber predicted will be in november at the end of the season
kinda like before wc
end of rank season
and end of owl season
tropic herald
They gonna pull a last year and make Stage 4 completely different from the first 3
trim shadow
well see thursday
jagged crater
if no changes, then stage 2-4 would be almost the same
in terms of balance changes
trim shadow
from the leak apperantly theres no patch or like hero changes
the map pool will probably change
jagged crater
nothing on ptr so unlikely direct hero changes come up
forest raven
Phone call leak says there's no definitive balance changes for 2-2-2 right now
IIRC
trim shadow
theres also hero 31
who is expected this month
but as my guy said
nothing on PTR
so 31 might be at blizzco
jagged crater
oof that's really late
echo quest
They reduced the comp season length
tropic herald
31 is probably in August
jagged crater
blizzcon is ways to go, what 3 months?
forest raven
Blizzcon is in November
tropic herald
Jeff said Summer Games was a little early and Hero 31 is a little late
jagged crater
yea it'd have to be hero 32 at that point
scenic shard
#cat
tropic herald
Ok
trim shadow
imagine thinking blizzard will release 2 heros in a year
trim shadow
its been that way ever since Sombra
jagged crater
just less new content overall
tropic herald
There has to be something in the background
trim shadow
basically blizzard is going to the ocean to pull its trash back to the community
balmy wolf
Blizzard is working on the story and campaign mode of the game which they should be announcing at blizzcon
jagged crater
i hope so, im itching for some decent PvE content
spring lintel
overwatch PvE is just a short term thing imo
jagged crater
if it's well designed i can see it working
there's still a lot of OW players that enjoy PvE
upper hawk
Is the tryout rn?
xqc is playing with mangachu and bani (honestly dk their nationality)
Nvm google told me theyre canadian
tropic herald
A leaf
upper hawk
Nice
My god xQc's winston is so good
He switched and comes out and almost immediately melts the 2 supports
tropic herald
xQc is actually really good at MT but he puts a persona on for stream
forest raven
Was already pretty much confirmed but these scrims definitely put the last nail in the 2-2-2 coffin
Big pog
spring lintel
role queue is confirmed 80% imo too
gaunt acorn
99.89%
spring lintel
would u pick akaydia over surefour?
upper hawk
Surefour is another one of those important personalities
jagged crater
who is akaydia?
upper hawk
Very likeable. I know it shouldnt be based off that but itd disappoint a lot of ppl if he doesnt start
spring lintel
a widow main i think
jagged crater
surefour is a proven player since the beginning of OW, very flexible hero pool, cant imagine not picking surefour
akaydia a ladder player mostly? has he been on teams?
tropic herald
The Canada roster is very likely going to be the exact same except Note?? Who idk if he is trying out
spring lintel
he is but mouffin seems to be doing better
gaunt acorn
@tropic herald note has been participating
jagged crater
how's note's non-dva play?
spring lintel
they are playing dva
gaunt acorn
even if it is
gaunt acorn
these tryouts are a good way to spotlight lesser-known talent
spring lintel
yeah, i think mouffin deserves it more than note right now
gaunt acorn
so it's a net gain either way
upper hawk
yeah thats exactly it. hes just following xqc on all his dives, which is standard
but it makes him look good
xQc's sustainability in the middle of fire is ridiculous
like how tf does he stay alive some times
spring lintel
main tank is 90% going to xqc if he keeps this up
jagged crater
xqc give so much publicity, cant imagine not pick him either way
but he's still good tho
upper hawk
true. its a massive fanbase of extra viewers lol
gaunt acorn
mouffin has been great tonight
hidden vault
Moufin for overwatch league
hidden vault
Also since when ELLIVOTE and LullSiSH joined justice?
gaunt acorn
a couple days ago
runs away
gaunt acorn
hidden vault
More Swedish players
Maybe we could see a Swedish team
But a Scandinavian team would be more likely
red anvil
6 @shell sierra
gaunt acorn
red anvil
2 from denmark and 4 from sweden
shell sierra
Ok ty
red anvil
9 from finland
upper hawk
Taimou is finnish right?
gaunt acorn
yes
upper hawk
Man if they have shaz and biggoose for WC thatd be so solid
Theyre one of the best support pairs there is
red anvil
Biggoose is not joining World cup
forest raven
Goose isn't in this year
upper hawk
Aw damn
shell sierra
Theres six swedes if ellivote and lullsish go through
hidden vault
2 Swedish
red anvil
no 4 including elli and Lulsish
shell sierra
Ok
hidden vault
The site does not have them
red anvil
you have a pretty solid swedish roster, you'll just have to decide between nevix and elli
it's a bit unfortuante that Sharp is not old enough, but you still have Snillo to cover that role
hidden vault
Projectile?
red anvil
Tivq
hidden vault
Have tviq back?
red anvil
Yes
hidden vault
What about Manhattan?
hidden vault
Washed?
hidden vault
I think Nevix is rotting too
hidden vault
I would sell him off and pick mcgravy
To paris? Tho I don't think they need a finnisi replacement
feral wing
norway ;-;
although im pretty sure spectr9l will get picked up for next season
which would be well deserved
red anvil
Who knows at this point if Oni will ever be picked up
He's a good lad and it saddens me like hell that we have no Norwegian players in the league
and they are really no other alternatives that may go to OWL
feral wing
hes a really good player so i would be shocked if he doesnt get picked up
red anvil
He is yes, but people who stay too long outside the league have a tendency to be ignored for undisclosed reasons
shell sierra
I think manheten was in owl season 1 stage 1-2
red anvil
i don't know why he have not been picked up, i got no information on this. But there is usually a reason.
And Manne was playing whole season 1 then dropped
shell sierra
Teams may think oni is to bad but i woud like him to be in owl
hidden vault
He had a hand injury?
Anyways I don't think munchkin played that well either
Both weekend amd bunny left
echo quest
He has tenosynovitis
shell sierra
Whats that
karmic grotto
search it up
tawny sigil
Any good indept analisist of the shanghai battle?
little silo
Munchkin is Seouls shotcaller though
hidden vault
Who shotcalls for him if he isn't playing?
tropic herald
@tawny sigil idk if it’s in-depth but I know ATP Ow just uploaded a review
I expect ChroNoDota might have one too
worn falcon
limber pine
For Stage 4
which kinda confuses me because isn't he their best widow
i'm old and don't remember how good Fleta was
limber pine
god it's been so long since we've seen large chunks of widow play
Stage 3 playoffs were so nice
hidden vault
I heard he was their shotcaller
And I'm not sure who shotcalls next since fissure retired too
limber pine
jehong?
hidden vault
Wait you are right
Who told me munchkin was their shotcaller?!?!
Nvm
I wonder who is the best tracer on seoul too
little silo
The supports and Marve1 probably shotcall
Jecse is loud and so are Marve1 and Jehong
cedar drum
gaunt minnow
Fleta is inconsistent.
analog hamlet
Fleta is Meta.
balmy wolf
Ana is always meta on ladder
gaunt minnow
When you realizes that SHD is the playing with everyone's GOATS. When they started playing Sombra GOAT more frequently, the other teams tried to use the same comp. Then when the other teams got accustomed to the comp, SHD switches to a Pharmercy triple DPS comp.
SHD is rolling.
balmy wolf
When shanghai cant pull their comp out anymore cause blizzard listened to plat chat and is putting in role lock
limber pine
Again, it's coming to OWL first.
why would it be plat chat's fault if the pros were the ones bitching the most?
balmy wolf
🇫
echo quest
What does he bring tho?
limber pine
who bischu?
echo quest
No Kyb
naive garden
🦀 FRAGI IS FREE 🦀
tropic herald
Kyb brings more flexibility
limber pine
Philly's two way players are all in Korea for contenders
They have no bench
at minimum, kyb brings depth
and insurance in case eqo or carpe get sick/injured
echo quest
So just a sub
pearl stratus
Probably more. Hayes is there.
limber pine
i mean lets face it
pearl stratus
People love to deep throat Carpe, but he's looked washed af the entire season no matter what he played.
limber pine
Carpe hasn't looked particularly good on anything this year
pearl stratus
So having options isn't bad.
echo quest
So the comp season being reduced wasn’t a bug?
balmy wolf
I think they might get ready for role lock for the new season instead of implementing it immediately mid season
I imagine it’s for the reset MMR for tank play dps play and support play
Cause if they dont do it that way then role lock is useless with only one rank
opaque cargo
karmic grotto
Carpe washed up
trim shadow
C o n f i r m e d
I want to see him
Bow
Now
I wonder how fraggi will fair in china next year
copper solstice
Does that mean we get to see fragi play?!?
trim shadow
Yes
trim shadow
L U L
echo quest
?
Go watch fragi feed his brains out on Winston in s1
He’s gonna be a map specialist
tawny sigil
what's that about comp being reduced?
limber pine
The current comp season has been reduced
tawny sigil
1month instead of 2?
hopefully they reset the placement
none of my placement were actually placement, i was the only one in placement in all of them
upper hawk
Most of my placement matches from the last 5 season have been with 90% bronze and silver
limber pine
I don't recall how much they reduced it by
upper hawk
And maybe 1-3 actually placing
The matchmaking would probably take too long to match only non placed players
karmic grotto
Preparing for 222
tawny sigil
every single match i get into take have literally 2 second of wait time
not getting shuffled at all
and it was very fishy the people i was getting match with, almost made me wonder if i was on a shit list, i dont know why i would be but
placed me against perfect team everytime, and my team had zero cooperation every single time, i was like, wtf is going on
healer were switching off without telling anyone, the comp made no sense
nobody was talking, the enemy team were pealing like crazy, they were focusing target properly
not something i expect from silver players
echo quest
It’s at 26 days
tawny sigil
i go down to silver and expect shit player, and its not happening and im so confused
is that getting shadow ban feels like?
tawny sigil
yeah so i was expect them to play like silver
i was trying to pick their healer in the back, the ENTIRE team pealed off, I was like wtf is this!
silver aren't suposed to peal!
widow is hitting headshot constantly, what's this!
echo quest
Feelsbadman
tawny sigil
felt like, since my career high is diamond
it like placed me in a category of, alright we'll give you stronger opponent then they actually are listed for
echo quest
Huh maybe They got better? Only time I’ve played against ranks lower than diamond was when I was doing my placements for my alt
tawny sigil
i was noticing no difference between silver and high plat
exept on my team, everyone was playing like silver player on my team
i play dps, get no heal what so ever
i play healer, fight last forever and nothing dies
I don't even want to bother with tank
echo quest
Just one trick hog
echo quest
Just carry the game with picks
tawny sigil
self sustain
echo quest
It’s so fun to one shot with him
night tusk
Idk if this discord is still alive
But im happy for Fragi he got traded
Finally some playtime
gaunt acorn
no, sadly, the discord died last week
jagged crater
would he actually get play time on charge?
bischu would have to play to help translate on the fly, unless fragi worked on his korean
jagged crater
like rein only maps?
night tusk
I forgat that we have hammond meta.. well idk what they do with bischu since hotba is good aswell. You would say that hotba would play pharah on 3 dps comp but we might actually have the 222 lock
But even with 222 lock I don’t see charge or defiant do better. Or they have to suprise us like outlaws what for some including me had them lowest on powerrankings after stage 2
little silo
Bischu makes more sense since he can translate if needed
echo quest
XQC is trying to build a pc lmao
karmic grotto
He has money
supple prism
what do you mean trying? a monkey can do it
night tusk
yes
karmic grotto
night tusk
While 1 guy is sure hating kinda https://youtu.be/v_wGmDG99C4 this video do explains next season kinda good
I might not or maybe watch a game in paris live but on stream it do looks fun to see the chinese and koreans fan again
upper niche
Wow, could they be more... uhh... stiff, for TV?
tawny sigil
some american player is gonna die while in china
balmy wolf
figuratively or literally
balmy wolf
any bets on who?
tawny sigil
i dont know, the one that's lookin for some chinese hooker
"im rich baby, i play pro overwatch, you must know who i am" -pro player said to a chinese hooker while he was drunk moment from death
hidden vault
Actually I don't find that this trade makes sense
Fragi is not gonna play still
And Guangzhou might as well get cash from philly
Kyb kinda make sense I guesd
upper niche
The whole trade system of OWL is just crazy to me. They've taken this very American "We own the players" BS style of sports where you can just trade someone to somewhere they don't want to go... that's ridiculous.
hidden vault
Bischu to Guangzhou is great but
Don't the glads need in game translation?
Guangzhou also needed someone to translate chinese
So I'm not sure how they are gonna fix that part
upper niche
I don't really know Fragis stance on Ghungzhou - but imagine you're a Scandinavian player, already living in a foreign country in America, and now you're told "yeah, you have to go live in China now, where [potentially] you know nothing about the country, don't like the food or culture"...
gaunt acorn
how is it a desperation move when they made clear this was the plan from the start
lmao
trim shadow
@tawny sigil the leauge is gonna be activately helping teams with visa’s
read the article
How does one not know of chineese culture
American sure
tawny sigil
doesnt matter how much they help
trim shadow
But chineese?
tawny sigil
when a border doesn't like your face, you're fucked
trim shadow
Thats not how...
tawny sigil
it happens
trim shadow
tawny sigil
its rare but it happens
trim shadow
Im out
tawny sigil
and i cant imagine all those kids to be clean either
idle beacon
hey there
hidden vault
Maybe a threeway trade for fragi to be in glads instead?
idle beacon
gamsu's msot played tanks
hidden vault
But it doesn't make sense since they have panker as 2 way
tawny sigil
havent you watched the game?
gaunt acorn
@idle beacon hammond
tawny sigil
i cant tell if orisa or hammond
idle beacon
dray, mostly hammond?
tawny sigil
feels like it was orisa mostly
idle beacon
no winston nor rein ?
tawny sigil
not even close
idle beacon
ok lets see who looks better in those colors .. orisa or hamster
orisa aint lookin that cool. hammond does, though
and thx btw, dray
and lioran
upper hawk
Did Canada do their day 2 of trials yet?
uneven wren
contenders chat is popping off lmao
phase 2 had to put in a backup after a dc
and man was that entertaining
actually glad i tuned in when i did
vagrant niche
so apparently, tomorrow there is some "BIG ANNOUNCEMENT" at 11 am pacific time according to that streamer girl whatever he name is
Jeff, nani desu ka?
trim shadow
@vagrant niche pucket and the desk already said that
gaunt acorn
he's in deep shit
vagrant niche
How come?
vagrant niche
What?
gaunt acorn
it can carry a maximum 2 year sentence
vagrant niche
If his claims are real, he is the victim
gaunt acorn
i'm not picking sides
vagrant niche
Not the girl
gaunt acorn
it's irrelevant
it can still be considered defamation
and senika's lawyers seem to be preparing to sue
gaunt acorn
it wouldn't negate her lawsuit
gaunt acorn
either way he didn't handle it properly
and now, legally, he's in trouble
i feel bad for him, though
vagrant niche
Tbh while I sympathize with him, he is stupid and it mostly his fault
If what he said is true, I would had bailed out
Falling in love with a prostitute 
And then paying het debt
What could possibly go wrong
??
Bruh could had any other chick out there
With the crapton of fans girls he had
tawny sigil
who?
vagrant niche
Effect
tawny sigil
why would he admit that
vagrant niche
Did you even read the juice?
tawny sigil
fuck reading man
vagrant niche
tawny sigil
gimme some king micheal drama video instead, does he even still do overwatch
vagrant niche
He quit on stage 2
tawny sigil
too much goats?
vagrant niche
Akm replaced him on stage 1
tawny sigil
oh effect
trim shadow
Effect for defamation?
vagrant niche
Well, and his apparent drama
tawny sigil
i mean i saw some tweet, first time i hear about any prostitute
trim shadow
What he do
gaunt acorn
vagrant niche
Read
trim shadow
Remember
vagrant niche
There
tawny sigil
tldr please
tawny sigil
bond? did she go to prison
trim shadow
so on top of like..s1 dallas
vagrant niche
Not like he had to be alone, dude had mad fans
gaunt acorn
@tawny sigil debt
vagrant niche
It's a claim but according to him yes
tawny sigil
ohhhh that's the girl he had on stream that was giving him breast rubs
gaunt acorn
@trim shadow because it constitutes such under korean law
trim shadow
Korean laws are strict
gaunt acorn
i mean he literally says
However, since I have already accumulated such hatred, I do not like to see senika streaming in such a good image.
easy grounds for a lawsuit right there
vagrant niche
Tbh I'm skeptical about any girl that does that publicly
gaunt acorn
he's defaming her image
vagrant niche
Red flag to me
trim shadow
yet she was robbing him@blind
So?
Thats also grounds to counter sue
@vagrant niche women are the embodiment of evil and good
gaunt acorn
that doesn't negate her lawsuit lol
trim shadow
Closest to god closest to the devil
vagrant niche
I prefer good angels tho
gaunt acorn
can we not make broad, sweeping generalizations about women, thanks
keep it on-topic
tawny sigil
respek whamen
oak bloom
this has nothing to do with overwatch esports lol, already off topic
gaunt acorn
@oak bloom yes it does
oak bloom
its his personal life, not overwatch
gaunt acorn
it's an account of what happened back when he was still an owl player
idle beacon
@gaunt minnow would be nice if washington would pop off in stage4
gaunt acorn
and ultimately led (or contributed) to his retirement
vagrant niche
Eh , fair enough but his life story around this time is related to his mental status during owl
So I see it on topic
He is an ex esport figure
tawny sigil
If jeff walks down the street and falls... is it overwatch news?
gaunt acorn
enough squabbling over semantics
vagrant niche
I'm just here for the memes
And juice
Any of you think we are getting fragi playtime on stage 4?
gaunt acorn
not much
tawny sigil
i dont understand this homestand thing, to me it just sounds like a huge waste of money
there is no way its gonna boost the viewership that much
supple prism
think the idea is to sell more tickets at more places
tawny sigil
sounds like a quick way to kill the league
tawny sigil
they were selling tickets to the arena, 2 for 20$ the other day in LA
there is no way they're making millions from the arenas
balmy wolf
Well now think of it as a actual league. Like the NBA.
vagrant niche
Prob more
balmy wolf
I doubt they care that much about online viewership going into the future.
balmy wolf
They want bigger profits so going for arenas seems better. They want to rush forward into the main stream and beat everyone else to it.
Have you seen the images of charge's watch party?
vagrant niche
The mall?
balmy wolf
Think of that, but about 3x bigger.
balmy wolf
Fortnite does it at an unreal level.
tawny sigil
i find it annoying when they're not at the burbank arena
balmy wolf
And it works.
vagrant niche
I think that's the disconect the people who quit were talking about
balmy wolf
Well the vision is the become "big", so doing that helps.
It's gonna take a long time for esports to be truly accepted. So companies think by shoving it in people's faces helps shorten it.
They know it's profitable, more people just need to realize it.
balmy wolf
OWL is taking a gamble with this. Either it works and hooray then put themselves on the map. Or it doesn't and their back to square one.
tawny sigil
well i'm calling it now, season 3 last season
you know its like movie sequels, second one tends to be better then first one
then 3rd one is always a wtf
tawny sigil
never seen
vagrant niche
With Mr t
hidden vault
Also anything about effect's lawsuit?
vagrant niche
Someone here said
He is getting sued
For staining her image
Or something along those lines
tawny sigil
was it korea that had the really stupid no defemation law where, saying the truth is defemation
uk has it
tawny sigil
articles are articles
hidden vault
Yeah article on effect's lawsuit?
tawny sigil
well i mean, articles are not always facts
hidden vault
True
Then how do we prove effect's lawsuit?
There must be a source of information some where
Also to note that the suicide threat is fake
She wouldn't have sued effect lol
tawny sigil
article are not really used in court unless they are the focus
sand violet
tawny sigil
lol
uneven wren
probably will be fully confirmed tomorrow 4 pm pst
tawny sigil
FISSURE SAID IT ON STREAM GUYZ
upper hawk
The article the other day mentioned the players voicing concerns about not know hardly anything about 2-2-2
uneven wren
contenders chat is talking about it
uneven wren
at least the wider audience aka people not seeing the video will be informed tomorrow
upper hawk
Damn dude cant change heroes during a map
Isnt half the game making on the fly adjustments?
That sucks
echo quest
uneven wren
wow even the seating is specific
upper hawk
Yeah thats so odd
upper hawk
i mean im okay with that
I wonder if theyre doing the change seat thing to discourage role swapping
upper niche
That's kinda shit IF you use any kind of non-verbal comms or non-transmitted comms between players
jagged crater
more like they're too lazy
upper hawk
Kind of annoying to move all your crap just for a swap
jagged crater
it's easier to implement a hard lock based on slot order
you can do it in workshop in a minute
tawny sigil
what does seating mean
jagged crater
and seating order prob keeps it consistent for everyone, including the spectators
you know the dps always on the left, tanks in the middle, supports right
balmy wolf
Alright Bunker vs bunker for all of stage 4 and maybe finals
goodnight everyone
OWL is now mirror matchups now and forever
upper hawk
True itd probably be easier for new fans to follow
jagged crater
now is it hard lock for comp too?
balmy wolf
would have to be
no role lock would make having the role thing in the first place pointless
tawny sigil
im sure they talked to player extensively before this
jagged crater
it could be a soft role lock as in players can swap roles in the middle of a map
balmy wolf
it would have to come with 3 different SR's for the roles. Ideally 6
balmy wolf
The players in an interview yesterday or a couple days back stated the players didn't know
they heard rumors but didn't know what was gonna happen
upper hawk
Thats rly weird but oh well
idle beacon
is this the workshop channel?
balmy wolf
Ideally you'd want 6 roles but it won't happen
upper hawk
But thats wasted time to prepare for stage 4 since they didnt confirm til now
jagged crater
nah too limited
upper hawk
Theres gonna be alot of DOUBLE SNIPER BOYS
balmy wolf
this would be more poorly implemented than anything they ever tried before
jagged crater
6 roles, the off-tank only has the option of 3 heroes, way too limited
upper hawk
Is hammond classified as MT?
jagged crater
yea
upper hawk
tf why lol
upper hawk
Makes sense by that definition then
jagged crater
we can start with 3 then balance from there
balmy wolf
It would be shit tho
upper hawk
I just only ever see him as an off tank
balmy wolf
what rank are you
upper hawk
I mean watching the pros
balmy wolf
besides triple dps
upper hawk
Im in turd tier so idk what real comp looks like
jagged crater
that's why tanks arent split! So there's at least some freedom on ladder to pick either main tank or offtank
balmy wolf
what comp did you see him in
jagged crater
cuz we all know majority of ranks, meta dont matter as much
balmy wolf
He makes room and disrupts enough to force teams to pay attention to him while letting the other 5 do what they need to do
upper hawk
SHD used it as an off tank
balmy wolf
Meta doesn't matter I would say for mid diamond and below
mid diamond up is when it affects ppl a bit
oh that seating rule is big
upper hawk
No it doesnt. Its just ppl thinking they can pull of comps having NEVER played with the other ppl
balmy wolf
yea, teams use it for coordination
jagged crater
seating rule means tanks are prob the main shot callers being able to sit next to either support or dps
balmy wolf
U see players look at each other screens for a reason
balmy wolf
^
upper hawk
Ahh ok
balmy wolf
Seating positions are not random
upper hawk
Thats cool
balmy wolf
It's going to be brutal
But
Washington probably won't suck ass anymore
Shock will probably still be good
upper hawk
They were god awful at goats
upper hawk
Like not even good at the basic concept of staying together
balmy wolf
Yea but literally every team besides the shock and the titans were essentially bad at goats.
they just sucked at it at varying levels more than others
Washington is more dps reliant since they now have the best widow America has to offer
Role lock will be in regular comp at around 5
And Sleepy and Ark aren't slouches
upper hawk
True i felt bad for Ark
balmy wolf
Plus they recently picked up two tanks from contenders which is something my friend told me cause i was too lazy to check myself
Washington, Houston, and basically all the teams who run dps got an upgrade.
but it's still gonna be ass to see
Also no devs here
they're busy working
not talking about the sport
upper hawk
What issue are you having?
balmy wolf
So you want ppl to die, because you can't login?
upper hawk
Is it the frame drops?
balmy wolf
You guys ready for the role lock to appear in comp tomorrow?
upper hawk
Ill be happy that ppl wont ignore roles
balmy wolf
Can't wait for dps players to realize they suck
upper hawk
Lol
balmy wolf
They can't ignore roles
you can't have role que without role lock
this ain't league
upper hawk
No i knwo i mean rn ppl completely ignore the need for certain roles
balmy wolf
For someone called "Chill Derrick" You are not chill at all dude. See if it's a internet issue
upper hawk
Like MT, Off tank and 2nd healer
balmy wolf
It's cause they have no idea how to do the jobs
upper hawk
What specifically about the server
balmy wolf
Then don't play the game rn.
Tank in general is a hard role to understand
Support you heal and provide utility
DPS you hurt stuff
Tank is tanking but making space and ppl don't understand that or work to play with that
upper hawk
Tank does require immense game sense and positioning knowledge. Also pressing W
balmy wolf
It's the most misunderstood role.
I consider you a good main tank once you play hammond cause he is super game sense reliant
upper hawk
I main dva, decent winston but i need to pick up Hog and Hammond
i can play zarya too
But i need to expand it
balmy wolf
I refuse to play rein and zarya
and doomfist
and genji
but I play literally everyone else
all other 26 characters I know how to play well