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I cant watch this
ok calm down the crowd mic
Dragons you got this!

SHANGHAI FIGHTING!!!
the best game ih whole season tbh
they gotta stay calm
COME ON SHANGHAI FINISH IT
This is such a hype game
Stay calm dont get cocky
@balmy wolf from Worst to First - i like it
Dude just imagine if dragons win this thatโs absolutely amazing
SHANGHAI

Also goats is fucking DEAD
This is lit
sd gives diem so much space, any owl widow would get the same result real talk
finish the job boys
DRAGONS ADOPT ME
@proper tinsel i'll agree to that
Worst to First will be the marketing from the team or blizzard id put money on that shit
I need this to happen
diem good but not world best gimme a break
ah ty
ehhhhhhhhhh
who remember 0-40?
Whole different team btw
nostalgic
oh diem is very much world best right now
justice remembers 0-40
It's a whole different team
Let Diem have his moment
name a better widow
0-40 to stage 3 winners.
this is not the 0-40 shanghai
all comes down to this
this is it
Jackin it
He's good 
Like I love shanghai but this is a different team lol canโt compare it to the 0-40 Shanghai
you high as fuck right now? diem BEST widow? fuck off
Yeah
Either way Blizz will market it as 0-40 to stage 3 winners so WHATEVER
DIEM
look at the stats
I haven't said that
imagine telling me that shanghai will beat NYXL RUNAWAY and SFS last year
But he's good
uhhhhh
LOL
OOD
LOL
FUCKING OW
Who do u think is the best widow?
ITS ALRIGHT ITS ALRIGHT
Diem pounds
3/4 more
MOTH DOWN
Poor youngjin
DIEM KEEP CLICKEN
choi is hard carry
The hooks are huge
LET'S GO SHANGHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI
diem literally has the best stats in the league and he is practically unrivaled
YOOOOO
jesus choi
CHOI IS HARD CARRY
HOOKS WTF
LOL
choi is hard carrying
choi is carrying
Choi is the omega carry
IM A NYXL FAN AND IT IS DRAGONS FAULT WE ARE PUT BUT IDC RN
choi hard carry
hard carry with the hooks
choi is an insane hog
choi carry
lol
choirry
Grappling hook
CHOI PLEASE CHOKE
holy shit too hype i cant type
What was that grapple?
DIEM AGAIN
ahhh
Hahaha
sorry
WOW
Huge
SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER

YES
@balmy wolf PREACH

DIEM
im having a seizure
Delicious
THIS IS IT
DDING
pooooooog
COME ON SHD
4:30
cmon cmon
there it is
CMON BOYS
!
KILLED PHARAH
4min to hold that little bit
WTF
gg
GOD DAMMIT THE HOOKS
he didnt boom too soon
LOL
4min for 30 meters
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
wow that hook
Cmon!!!
Diem pls
WTF with that hook
4 and half mins
They lost Choi
im so stressed watching this
Nvm
baller ass hook
LOL WHAT WAS THAT EMP
almost there
5K HOLY SHIT
wait nvm
oof diem
THEY JUST NEED ONE FIGHT WIN
They got 4 mins
they didn't move the cart
SHD need a full reset
Just saying
FIRST TO WORST
4 mins to win 1 fight
4 MINS TO WIN
sinatraa widow ? 
should have switched sooner to ana
theres no way this isnt gonna happen right
they got four minutes
and widow
THEY ARE BREAKING THROUGH
Hold up
LETS GO DRAGONS LETS GO
THIS IS IT
lets shut the crowd up lets go
GG
YOOOO
LOL
SINATRAA LOOOOL
Does Sinatraa play widow?
HE WENT FOR IT
CROWD SHUT THE FUCK UUUUP
LETS GO DOOOD
LETS GOOOO
GOGOGOGOGO
PFFFFFFFF
THEY DID IT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
SINATRAA GOT DICKED
gg
YES YES YES
SHANGHAAAAIIIII
OH MY GOD
EASYYYYYY
KILL THAT MOTH
SHD

AYYYYY

LETS GOOOO
OH MY GOD
HOLY

OMG
AAYAAAAAAY
YESSSSSSSS\

holy shiiiit
FUCK
0-40

YES!!!!!!
I HATE SUPER SO MUCH
OH YES
GGGGG
FUCK YOUR REVERSE SWEEP
YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
AAYAYAYYA
FIIIIINALLYYYYYYY
DAMN
I WAS HERE
HOLY SHITTTTT IM GETTING WAISTED TO NIGHT
OH MY GOD

Hype series
BWAHAHAHAHAHA
ZERO
FORTY

WORST TO FIRST BITCHES
GG
DRAGONSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
I WAS HERE 

CANT SEE SHIT,
HAHA
REDEMPTION ARC COMPLETE
I TOLD YOU DRAGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONS!!!!!!
le dargons omg
YEET
wOW
Congrats SHD fans!!!

Holy shit
OMFG
I SAW IT OMG
I WAS HERE
Bruh
Damn, that sucks
FAST GO GEGURI CRYING
damn that was a battle
Ggs
IM GETTING DRUNK AF TONIGHT
WE WERE HERE
DRAGONS BEST TEAM CHANGE MY MIND
Brutal for SFS
Ez
GOATS IS DEAD
Hahahhahahaha
SHANGHAI LIVES
So ez
OH THANK@GOD
That is crushing
fuck man

THANK GOD
that was almost the best final of all time
Waiting for CV comp
Supers standing there like "fok"
Long have we waited
This was the best final of all time
So happy to see super lose
no it wasnt
geguri
Super and bumper resonating energy
Who said shock was gonna win
๐ฆ SUPER GOES INSANE ๐ฆ
Oh my God
oml being a nyxl fan my heart is warmed
I'M IN TEARS
YES
DIYA AND GEGURI โค
geguri 
Holy hell
FUCKING
GEGURI WITH HER CAP
FUCK THE SHOT
Huge series
I LOVE IT
SHOCK
This is beautiful

GEGURI CARRIED
This is easily the best match in overwatch league history
Emotional support carry
this is going to be some fun marketing to see during downtime
I CANT EXPLAIN MY EMONTIONS
LOOOL
THOSE TWO IN THE BACK LEFT
damn danny you look slick
SO CUTE
LOOOL
yes exactly
LMAO
i agree
Lmfao
100%
LOL
Yes Diem!!!
THEY'RE ALL TEARY-EYED AWEEE
that was the whole thing

lmao Gamsu
And now 2-2-2 is coming
and i win 40 euros!!!!
clap 4 shock
nt
They're smiling and teary-eyed, im a proud dragon mom right now
LETS GO
Rip Youngjin Doomfist

nice job Gamsu
awwww
That was awesome
If blizz implements 222 now theyโre stupid like endoken said
they won from NYXL TITANS and SHOCK to be the winners for this stage! nice job Shanghai
Is 2-2-2 confirmed?
This is so cute awe
Oh shit someone in my apartment building just checked on me so if i was okay cause i yelled in excitement REALLY loud when shanghai won
222 is not confirmed
Seriously i want whatever the fuck SHD drank to get here
ok me waiting for tokens
Imma be sad because no more youngjin doomfist
and now to clean all of that fucking confetti out of their keyboards
lmao
I need SHDs positivity when playing comp
So who won?
SHD
LOL that guy's sombra cosplay was top notch
SHD
this match was awesome
Jesus man
They redeemed their S9 moment
I realized that boston never won a stage. they just had a clean stage
Sorry I missed the whole match because it's early af for me
Its Sombro
i am sooooo happy for the dragons ๐
I heard Shanghai won
Welp I am ultra satisfied with these finals
Insane match
Will watch it at home tonight
titans .. best team.. HAHAHA
l

Shd deserves all this
ok now letโs watch danny do some cringy shit
much deserved win
Like you mean s2 champions?
I wasn't even a shanghai fan for most of the season but seeing shanghai win a stage championship makes me so fucking happy
I love it when underdog team succeeds.
not quite 4-0 but ill take it
man, that was such an exciting set of rounds to watch
@warm quartz Hurts my head to see all that confetti and thinking WHO IS GONNA CLEAN ALL THE MESS
@modest onyx Same
now i need NYXL to clutch up (they wont) ๐ญ
If you wouldve told me
@worn falcon are they like s2 champions
Shanghai won a stage
not only did they win, they went through the three best teams
Tons of credit to Crusty/shock. Amazing adaptation. Great calm adjustments.
In the end, Diem had to stop going for clear win conditions with Sombra EMP, he HAD to pick Widow, bc SFS were outplaying the EMP and winning the frontline battle.
Choy played insane. #OWL2019
THEY ARE PAID TO CLEAN WHO CARES
I wouldve beat u up
SHANGHAI WON
My throat fucking hurts from cherring
@quasi stump Yes
@worn falcon people who getting paid for it lol ๐
SHANGHAIIII
that's the impressive part
KOngdoo finally won something pog champ
Jeff Kaplan is the one that cleans up the confetti.
That series was amazing, great run from @ShanghaiDragons this stage #OWL2019
I told people the rise of Shanghai was gonna happen


They all laughed at me well whoโs laughing now lmao
gottem

so nyxl was sandbagging eh?
cant wait for some power ranking
Not many would see this coming!
Iโm happy for them kongdoo bois
lol what an annoying doomfist ๐
Geguri was crying on her first win now
Screw sombra tho. Makes you depressed as a tank
all in the same week
Shanghai ๐ด๐ด๐ด
Itโs insane
someone tell me im dreaming
Kongdoo ๐๐๐
@night tusk yea fuckin awesome ๐ ...
I'm so satisfied
Shanghai dragons my papi
That's some very good teams
is Shanghai on everyone's #1 ranking now?
That they just won against
no 222 pls blizz
TITANS OUTDATED NYXL OVERRATED SHOCK DEFLATED LONG HAVE WE WAITED SHANGHAI ACTIVATED
Iโm loss for words, but I want to thank my teammates, coaches & staff for getting us to this point. Also thank you to fans for always being by our side through this journey. We couldnโt do this without your love and support โค๏ธ We win Stage 3 playoffs!!!!! Iโm so ...
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They beat the #1 seed
@obtuse glacier ๐
but there is a mistake
CHOIHYOBIN WAS A BETTER ROADHOG THAN YOUNGJIN LUL
What a freaking run
Gamsu

Sushi as a Ny fan im crying
HOLY SHANG WOOOOOO
nyxl outdated, titans overrated
NYXL in semifinals is like....contenders level though
.>
my heart
Beating nyxl is nothing special when it comes to playoffs
why does nyxl always choke playoff i dont understand
2-2-2 is coming ;((((((
The choke hard in the playoffs
ny had a perfect stage tho
Even if shock won I think this proves GOATS is no longer king
this is bullying
Kongdoo won letโs go doood
well i mean shanghai is the strongest team so not much of a choke is it
wait why do people think 2 2 2 is coming
@spring heath enjoyed the match ?
Cause fissure said it
ahh
And heโs reliable or something idk
well ima leave before i cry of NY harassment
Donโt care about the others but Luffy finally won something letโs go
CHOIHYOBIN deserves this Stage victory 
@night tusk heck yea
Omg non ur alive
!!!!! WOOOOO
well WORST TO FIRST
Been on Kongdoo for 3 years and got the victory
@spring heath
lets go
what is kongdoo
Shanghai Contenders team where most of the roster came from
when are the match loaded into the player?
He was crazy all long
I want to know his hook ratio, and hook ratio on Pharah Mercys
well hopefully in stage four ny wont choke
they've coulda won if they shut down the widow
ye
they tried
You are talking about NY here
ny got to semifinals last time
@sterile fox the old team of most of the starting roster
My weekend is complete
Diem has the best widow in the league
No
for now
They have been reversed sweeped twice
yes
Then who is best widow
In the finals
who knows who is the best widow
stats
we have to see in a double sniper meta
season 1 shanghai, didn't sleep... but season 2 shanghai is sleeping everyone instead
Congrats to The Dragons 
diem is the best rn since he plays it the most
All Korean > non Korean
Unless ur mayhem
There are no words to describe how I feel after casting my first Overwatch League Stage finals. Itโs been a huge goal for us. Thank you for all your support.
Did Shanghai win?
Yes
Yes
Yeah
4-3
Choi was incredible
He was landing some dirty hooks
aww Wolf
shanghai from 8th seed to winners. there was a chance that they would not even made it to the playoffs
he's awesome, been a fan of his since his SC2 days
wait OWL is gonna make some announcement soon?
yes
role lock!!1
222 we all guess
ah ok
2
I hope not
"suprise"
For the love of everything
222 for the league or the whole game?
222 :/
Choi is the MVP of this game
They actually did

so when exactly is the announcement
Holy shit
222 wouldnโt be a good surprise
just wait
More like Double Sniper
They killed the big 3
The way the game is rn is so fun. No change ;_;
VT, NYXL, and SFS
OWL is #5 trending on twitter right now
wHaT a BouT SpItFIre
spitfire is practically nyxl property
or trending for you ?
Shanghai just beat all 3 of the big una
My dad turned on the tv earlier to watch sports and found OWL
@sterile fox lol
he just said what the hell
@balmy wolf lol
The best off tank in this league is corey.. Change my mind
someone said what the hell yesterday aswell
107 final blows lol
They Play seoul twice,Spark,Shock,Titans
its not unheard of
Thatโs tough
Itโs tough but Shanghai has beaten them all now
shock is kill
@tawny sigil I mean he was confused by what he was watching
dding lets go
58 were barrage kills
DDING
dding is a chuck-e-cheese chad
@tropic herald thatโs true but they have time to study Shanghai now.
Plus 2-2-2 might be coming
wait shanghai won stage 3
112k
208 in 7 matches
problem with teams facing shanghai is that they can deal with gamsu and put pressure on diem but they don't contest dding and coma on pharahmercy
Jesus
This guy sucks
actual bruh moment
LUL
in a role lock dding will have a harder time replicating these stats on pharah
What a BRO
17.5k damage per map
wait guys did the stage 3 finals already happen am I dumb
wait guys did the stage 3 finals already happen am I dumb
yes
just missed it brah
bruh
@frozen perch WHAT THE FUCK
Unbelievable
WHAT HAPPEND IN THIS GAME
lmfao shanghai won?
aight this is gonna be the first rerun i actually watch
what was the score and against who
It was a crazy game Leggo
fuck my ass i missed the best one
@umbral bone 4-3 shanghai
diem was godly
against who? have you been living under a rock?
there will be a announcement soon "2-2-2 is everyone guess"
Diem on widow and no direct answer to pharmecy other than hacking pharah to make her drop
So which Dragon's jersey should I get
that's it basically
DIEM
it was easily winnable
diam
Gamsu
diem
Dding
but they didn't had a widow/mccree specialist
dayiem
geguri :p
smh a dva specialist can do it 
Isnโt striker their widow specialist
@night tusk wont be as good as everyone thought
Omegalul
WTF I EVEN SAID STRIKER'S GONNA POP OFF
wait geguri is still in shanghai right?
geguri is still on the team, yes
diya aswell
Dding is just too good at hiding and movement in the air
diya played ashe once
lol
i know who im gonna learn pharah from
Striker did not look convincing on anything at all
Striker choked i guess
fuck me in scrims striker literally hard carried on widow against fuckin high ass teams
STRIKER WHY 
ppl in the back lul
Maybe striker wasnโt ready for stage games
Like isnโt this the first time heโs been played
yeah probably having a bad game
@balmy wolf I mean he only played one map
striker played one map in stage finals. His nerves probably got to him
well i probably overrated him
striker will probably get played in stage 4 tho if 2-2-2 is coming
i spectated him for a bit during a couple blocks
His first game in a year and its the stage finals
well what does she mean no struggles for SHD that last match was to close
those people sure are having fun
[SPOILER ALERT] ok guys. what if shock did not play B team on first map
That last match was so close yeah
They struggled for 4 maps in a row rly
apparently shock didnt really practice this comp
Striker just needs time to warm up to the stage again
Shouldโve just used the spoiler thing and
basically when i say popped off, in a 6 hour scrim block striker legit went fucking nuts with widow for 6 hours straight against 3 different high ass teams
striker will definitely rise up again next stage
it was either a really good day for him, or today was a really bad day
He played one map
I mean xepher scrim god right leggo
The dragons just come at teams with so much
whichever one it is, i need to watch the rerun on dding's pov
As soon as one guy lets off another steps up
Goatsers get fucked feelsgoodman
i know people ragtag on dragons a lot but the one thing they have above most others is cohesion/synergy
๐ฆ GOATS IS DEAD ๐ฆ
I mean
Imagine if blizz buts 222 lock in now when goats is dead
Its dead if its 222
Theyโd be so stupid
They prob will
its like getting your lung removed after your tumor is cured
They need to hurry up an announce that it either is or isnt happening though.
they probs dont want to see another dumb shit comp like goats was
@upper niche Watchpoint on Thursday ;)
They fixed it properly tbh
In 222 you get this dumb shit comp called double sniper bunker
DDing got more Barrage kills than deaths
oh hey Moh, long time no see
Moira wasn't good neither, they should have played Ana

hey Leggo
they took pretty damn long tho fixing it
Here's the thing, 2/2/2 lock imo is detrimental BUT i wont deny the possible benefits
i mean
goats died in ladder 4 months ago
DIVE IS ALIVE BOYS lul
owl is on older patches and with old strats too
i wish.
even on new patch, it takes time for them to learn new strats
DAB
Cause itโs my team mates thatโs why Iโm gold with lock Iโll be climbing
@PelicansNBA To all the nerds waiting for mom to bring you hot pockets. Turn off Fortnite the adults would like to watch men shit! Thanks
quad sniper meta lmao
I just can't get my head around the fact that in Stage 4, Shanghai will have to play the teams that finished Stage 3 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and again, 5th! :/
I'm trying to watch men shit, goddamn it
2/2/2 lock will bring sniper meta and bunker
BUT
i wont deny that it'll make it easier for blizzard to balance
so basically there will be no announcement
to prevent future oppressive minimal-workaround comps
Nah, an annoucncement will come mid-week.
balance is a monumental task
Thursday there will be a announcement
think of original no hero limit
oh god
no hero limit to 1 hero only basically stopped all metas from being 2 tracers/2 winstons/2 lucios
Cant blame em for balance issues. Theres no way to know whatll be a problem until its implemented and fails
Hero limit is way different
its the same complaints now as before
lmfao
I like the addition of Baptiste. Kind of interesting
don't click that
i think the way it is right now is the sweet spot, but im more than happy to be proven wrong
Hes actually useful
spammer 
DONT CLICK THAT
FREE FORTNITE SKINS TO EVERYONE THAT PREDICTED SHANGHAI
who was dumb enough to click that?
SHD delivered so many great moments this season. First win ever and then NY win was big in itself. Beating titans and shock was just extra bonus

Me :)
meh i wanted to click it ngl
lmao
Clicking on this just gives him your account ,it does nothing else 
Best stage of the league so far
what else are they gonna cover damn
SFS and SHD are scrim partners right?
end of stage, this goes on till midnight
no one knows the scrim partners
and the people who do
dont tell
like i dont even know
I'm proud of the Dragons. From a losing streak lasting an entire season to Stage 3 champs. No one doubts them now.
in some teams even the analysts arent told which teams they're up against in scrims
Wonder how theyll be moved in the power rankings
Well i remember Super saying something about it back in Stage 2 but idk if they still scrim
assume every single owl team has scrimmed against one another
They are going up for sure
but idk about them being partners
most use their academy contenders team
except paris
Paris Lul
is blizz reconsidering 222 yet
thats why fuel brought on trill
i love supersticious people getting dunk'd on, where is your wood now sinatraa
the most diverse meta we've seen this playoffs in a LONG TIME
has top level OW ever been this diverse
*shouldnt
They have an โannouncementโ apparently
literally every team had a diff style and comp
you made that up
this is what OW should be
honestly i fucking hate it when people say like "owl is so boring" theres like a dozen different comps they run
tons of swaps
Im still sad for Choi who deserves the victory and is by far the MVP. 
@tropic herald Where'd you see this?
it should be that and if they dont want to swap have differnet playstyles
Today means the world to us. Itโs bittersweet, and the road weโve walked to get here was never easy.
But to all the Dragons from the past and present,
To all the staff who work tirelessly for our sake,
To all the fans who always believed in us,
This win is for you. Th...
For a while there every single match was 3-3 vs 3-3 though
Earlier in the chat someone said something
Even the WC
Idk
the video is awesome
๐STARTED FROM THE BOTTOM NOW WE HERE๐
After a wild 7 maps we come out the stage 3 champs! We couldnโt have made it this far without your love โ so hereโs to you!
Like, RT, and leave a celebration gif below. Weโre giving away 1 SHD keyboard, 5 jerseys, and 1...
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Yeeee
Has there been anyone as effective as Gamsu on Hammond? I saw Fate have some success
But gamsu just beasts it
ameng?
@night tusk I really like seeing behind-the-scenes videos like that.
gamsu just plays it better since his team is better
gamsu has picked up hammond very quickly
gamsu is becoming the best Hammond like he did with winston last yr
all of gamsus main tanks are above average
Korean: โThank you to the fans for trusting me and waiting for me. I wonโt forget it, and Iโll work even harder.โ
https://t.co/YRtsAXNl7L
@upper niche me aswell
"Overwatch is perfectly balanced" Sideshow
nah, vancouver's emp never win
LA KUSH 
holy fuck that's a lot of bits by individual people
yeah....that's some $$$
what does it cost to buy 600k bits
huh
fuckin hell wtf
i knew you guys made that shit up about announcement
$7392 for 600k bits
no
Whales
they jebaited lmaooo
what do you expect?
MUST BE NICE TO HAVE BIT MONEY
62,000 bits, not 620,000
even twitch chat spam jebaited xd
The economy of Twitch streaming and supporting channels amazes me.
oh was it 62k bits
did they just announce 2-2-2?
whooops
nope, they didn't announce anything
No
they wouldn't do that now
maybe ๐ค 2-2-2 cancelled
Please cancel it bro
next Thursday
Like... everyone's disconnecting their cable subscriptions, people are bitching about streaming services popping up everywhere... and then people will pay $5/mo to support one streamer, often an amateur.
I could've swore they mentioned an announcement in the intro
I do not want stage 4 222
i think they should cancel it on pro play
they never said there was an announcement, where did you get that from
Jeff was there
just do like a separate comp mode
so it was anticipated
with it
they said we have a suprise after this. but seems they moved it up so ๐ค
of course jeff is gonna be there, its the final
if u do it in ladder, then u have to transferred over to the OWL. Cant have two different games in one
stage final
I don't actually want 2-2-2 - I just want to be able to play the game without having some wanker that goes "fuck this, you heal, I'm going DPS" mid game.
???? 
@balmy wolf I disagree, I believe you really can make it work not having one without the other.
hey bro where the healing bro wherer healing healing bad bro cmon you guys bad :////
ok bro imma head out to dps
There's no reason they couldn't just have 2-2-2 at the pro level.
Or conversely - relax the restriction at the pro level.
Then they better find a way to not have another goats comp pop up again.
Today means the world to us. Itโs bittersweet, and the road weโve walked to get here was never easy.
But to all the Dragons from the past and present,
To all the staff who work tirelessly for our sake,
To all the fans who always believed in us,
This win is for you. Th...
now we have 5/6 dps and people talk about the 222 lock because of goats / might be just in OWL
Remove heal-stacking.
dope footage
what do you mean have another goats comp pop up?
Removing heal-stacking would have meant Goats could never exist.
you mean a meta comp?
this current meta is only working cause team still want to play goats
cause too bad bunker will exist
6 healer meta when
Also remember that the meta they're playing in OWL is on an older patch. There's only one or two small tweaks that didn't get to this version, but they're still there - Orisa for example.
mccree was the biggest change
It was interesting to see teams actually try and use him again
Preventing Bunker would be a pretty simple change - either a new hero that has an ability that bypasses shields, OR, fix Hanzos storm arrow to do what it should have always done: Less damage, but a bonus damage to shields.
puckett said theres a special watchpoint this thursday you dont wanna miss
@upper niche that would just destroy reinhardt's usefulness
july 25th is stage 4
so not even 2 weeks
my bet is that they called it off
No, it wouldn't. And there would be other tweaks you could make to counter that.
222 might just not come
im pretty sure the teams were told in advance anyways
Hope so
if its real
Teams have been leakind that shit for six weeks.
222 lock looked to be a great idea since viewers on twitch are going down and goats was played 24/7 but now with dps back again. people want to avoid the lock. Blizz might be thinking about it ?
If 2-2-2 lock is real all the players in OWL know it
It just ruins the creativity. Thats what keeps this game fresh is teams experimenting
also it makes sense if you see the dps comps this stage
but there's no announcement yet
222 would limit it so much
You've had players quit the game completely over not wanting lock and knowing its coming. That's a pretty big deal to quit a career for something that "might not" happen.
ando honestly viewers go down gradually when stages pass
thats what happened with season 1
it gradually wentd own
Which players quit because of role lock
yep the wonderful creativity of sombra goats and pharmercy
xD not the goats comps but the anti goats everyones trying now
The leak of 2-2-2 might be true but we donโt know if blizzard could still change their minds
Remember that Sombra wasn't a thing when Goats first came around.
stage 2 was boring af and lot of people did quit watching because of goats. 30k difference is not just bcs of that
@minor flame someone in atlanta cord said 222 talks could come thursday
honestly dragons only won because dding is that fucking good on pharah, just the best pharah
bruh
not everyone can pull that off
4head
time will tell
Sombra Goats came much later, after her tweaks.
He really does carry
Also hero 31 was apperantly delayed
Most of the fights they flip its because of him
Dragons win because of Diem dude
@north tendon true, Seoul tried pharah but rascal stopped that quick
Diem popped off
well diem is crazy too
222 been known for a while, which is which COULD be a reason you see more teams experimenting DPS
They won the first two round because of DDing
Dragons won because they work with everyone crazy well
they also were pretty pepega about dealing with pharah
well no shit
Its just such a dangerous tandem
all playoff teams
but turns out goats wasnt that good all along
goats is still meta but not the dom meta
No I donโt think they can hard counter Pharah
No more matches today?
I donโt think they are pepega
Remembe stage 1 when EMP wasn't a thing?
@storm cloak that was the stage 3 final so no
@storm cloak F it I just want to see SHD play everyone now. Exhibition matches
Remember grav bomb combo stage 1?
You play any comp hard countering Pharah, DDing is simply gonna play hanzo
people dont want 2-2-2 because it kills creativity, but everyone lacked the creativity to beat goats for this long.
It was always just Grav, Dvabomb, Trans from both teams over and over and over, it was sooooooo boring.
I feel like bunker made teams realize they just need to put so much dmg out the shields are less useful
@supple prism the heros themselves lack creativity honestly
We saw Titans did a few time yesterday
more mobility
???? lol shock literally played comps that countered Ddings pharah
and Shanghai still won
without switching it
titans went quad tank on one of the maps and dominated
well it was Numbani
shock tried to adapt and it worked
i fuckin love seeing that
too late though
Numbani is Titans map
Shock definitely started to adapt in second half, but winning 4 maps in a row is still tough
Theres a lot of 3-2-1 comps now too
theyve never lost numbani in 2 years
@upper hawk I'm seeing a lot of games lately where 35k damage blocked is the norm, not the exception. It didn't used to be that way.
ladder games?
oof,
yeah.
now that i think about it
Yeah thats a ridiculous number lol
doesnt matter, we still saw something unique and that's what got me loving the game
OOF
We also used to have games where 24k healed was nothing out of the ordinary - in fact, 35k happened at times. That doens't happen either.
im more glad for gamsu
dude deserves it for his dedication
are there any other candidates other than gamsu for hulk award?
who else
mickie has been non-existant this season
Fuck I just remembered internethulk and I'm sad now
So the game has massively changed - Even though we used to have much MUCH higher healing, and much less damage output (and damage blocked) - we ended up with Goats, which has massively long sustain and damage absorbtion, and still we would see lower stats.
btw where r me tokens
Mickie wasnt as good as ppl made him out to be anyway
no tokens for playoffs iirc
He was just rly likeable
that's why yesterday playoffs had less viewers than normal owl
what do you mean
well i got them yesterday
really
most sane people have thought mickie has been bad for a while
Reee when is next match
on twitch
For some strange reason playoff tokens have been coming through well after the matches, not during the matches like regular season.
bc it was on tv
people here and entire twitch chat said no tokens for playoffs
so people dodnt have to watch it on twitch
I got tokens yesterday
didnt*
damn
Yeah, they weren't dropping in realtime, so people might have thought that.
- But got them
I missed out then
Dude I think the problem with mickie is, when you are winning, laughing and playing around will seem very likable
Lol
mickie's dva has not been competitive since before OWL s1
But when you are losing, itโs just kinda pepega
Mickies brig was more impressive than his Dva
if there is another world cup then there should be world cup skins
Yeah hes probablu one of the weakest dvas
Especially when you see dudes like Space arrive
Just makes him look terrible
space is too good
seagull had a better dva than him in like 3 months
he was number one in the us right?
mickie has not been relevant for 2 years except for early brig
i still want 2-2-2 for ladder

