#esports-discussion | Overwatch | Page 1703

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:15 AM

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They would run Amano for solo heals

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:15 AM

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the lucio that never dies

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:16 AM

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Amano has undying like ark but also gets kills

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I think Diem is the best widow atm and if we moved to a widow meta SHD would be in a pretty good place

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:17 AM

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gonna be fun to see striker on it

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:17 AM

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yeah, a Widow meta would help out Philly and London a fair bit tho

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:17 AM

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tho happy is no slouch on widow either

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:17 AM

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Do Titans have a widow player?

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:18 AM

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Stitch ig, or SMS

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not sure if either of them are insane on it though

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:18 AM

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I don’t think they are

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:18 AM

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what does Hooreg play?

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:19 AM

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Flex support

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I think

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Wait

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Maybe not

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:19 AM

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plays dps

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:19 AM

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He played for Spitfire last year

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:19 AM

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ik he's dps, I meant like which heroes

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:19 AM

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mostly hitscan I think

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but stitch is the better hitscan overall

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:20 AM

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I thought he was projectile???

trim shadow Jul 9, 2019, 1:20 AM

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imagine saying hooreg is a flex support

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:20 AM

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Idk I get people mixed up

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:20 AM

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hooreg does play pharah

trim shadow Jul 9, 2019, 1:20 AM

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all of the vancouver dps plays mostly hitscan

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especially haksal

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 1:20 AM

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so these are the semi-finals

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i've expected other teams

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:20 AM

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haksal is projectile

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 1:20 AM

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where is sfs? 😄

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:20 AM

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quaterfinals kdskdks

trim shadow Jul 9, 2019, 1:21 AM

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probably wont make it out of the first round

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:21 AM

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if Seoul goes hard with Sombra play, Shock is out round 1

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:21 AM

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but titans dps lineup is meta proof for the most part

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:21 AM

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Titans dps are good but def not top 3 good imo

trim shadow Jul 9, 2019, 1:21 AM

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what?

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:22 AM

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have u seen them in the dive meta?

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or actually seen them as runaway?

trim shadow Jul 9, 2019, 1:22 AM

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looks at vancouver's dps

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haksal hooreg stitch and seominsoo

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hmm average

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haksal's genji is as legendary as shadowburns

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stitch is just a semi flex good

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:22 AM

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I think they are def good

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But I think other teams would just do better

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:23 AM

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expect they contended with the best when dps was a thing

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:23 AM

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They wouldn't be as strong/unbeatable but they'd still be a top 3 team

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:23 AM

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as in they either beat them or went 2nd place

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:24 AM

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Idk

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I just don’t have enough faith in them

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:24 AM

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they already proved themselves in apex 2 times already

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:25 AM

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They’ve proven to be really good once a meta has been settled but they always fall off a little when the meta changes

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:25 AM

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a little

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:25 AM

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A little is a lot in OWL

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:26 AM

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and they already change their lineup to compensate for that

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:26 AM

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well at this point I doubt we'll see them get dethroned from their #1 placement

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ik that doesn't = strength but it still means something

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:26 AM

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titans already clinched they playoff spot

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they can't go below the top 6

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:26 AM

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imo the only team that could take #1 from them rn is NYXL

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:26 AM

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Well yeah they very likely will keep overall #1 seed

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If last years playoffs taught me anything

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:27 AM

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shock can take it if they have good 4-0 the majority of their matches, they have a higher map differential than NY

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:27 AM

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The finals will be something crazy like Spark v Reign

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:27 AM

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Titans would have to lose like 4 matches

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:28 AM

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stage 4 is gonna be weird if role lock is a thing

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:28 AM

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I’m just saying double sniper is very likely in 2-2-2

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And that’s not gonna be fun

vale pond Jul 9, 2019, 1:28 AM

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At least goats was fun to play

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:29 AM

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bunker is most likely gonna be the meta

vale pond Jul 9, 2019, 1:29 AM

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Thanks I hate it

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:29 AM

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I enjoy the current meta the most tbh

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see damn near every hero

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:29 AM

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Bunker is only meta bc lack of coordination

trim shadow Jul 9, 2019, 1:30 AM

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vancouver no matter what they doo will never fall below top 6 for post season

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they have a

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53

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map differential

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thats insane

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:30 AM

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In OWL there is at least some coordination so hopefully very little to no bunker

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Probably dive

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:30 AM

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I doubt they're even gonna leave #1

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:31 AM

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It’s unlikely unless there is internal issues

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Or they might sandbag

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:31 AM

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At most I see them dropping to #2

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:33 AM

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really cool to see how the top 3 team in the league have such a insane map differential difference with teams below them

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:34 AM

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I think MonteCristo has kinda accurate power rankings

drowsy fjord Jul 9, 2019, 1:34 AM

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PS4 anyone?

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:34 AM

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#lfg-console-ranked @drowsy fjord

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 1:39 AM

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is that rumour about the 2-2-2 lock true?

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:39 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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blizzard hasn't confirmed it yet

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but there's a pretty good chance it could be tru

echo quest Jul 9, 2019, 1:41 AM

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Haksal is insane

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 1:41 AM

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if it really should happen, we'll see alot of benching and benched coming back

echo quest Jul 9, 2019, 1:41 AM

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But stitch is a level below someone like carpe on hitscan

trim shadow Jul 9, 2019, 1:42 AM

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what

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 1:42 AM

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has carpe ever played a soldier before?

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Probably

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 1:42 AM

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i only remember him on tracer and widow

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and cree rarely

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Thank mr logix

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 1:43 AM

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?

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Logix has a really nice widow

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Genji mcree meta pwease

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Just realized ther is a ton of really good widows in OWL

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 1:44 AM

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oh yea, i've read that he's making a comeback

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:44 AM

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mcree aint gonna be meta

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never has been

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 1:44 AM

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but can't remember for what team

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Damn htp went from legit bronze to contenders? That's nutty

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Logix got signed to Toronto

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Toronto

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And Mccree might come back a bit with his upcoming buffs

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 1:45 AM

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maybe we'll also see a tviq comeback 😃

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:45 AM

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God i hope

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 1:45 AM

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upcoming buffs

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AGAIN?

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:45 AM

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But sign/trade window just closed

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:46 AM

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His widow has been holding up against just about every other widow he’s faced

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Upcoming for OWL

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:46 AM

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the problem with mcree is that he needs a bunch of resources to be kept alive

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 1:46 AM

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@tropic herald tviq ?

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:46 AM

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No

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Logix

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 1:46 AM

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ah ok

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Logix has been getting lots of 3ks and more

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 1:46 AM

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@scarlet tinsel so you mean the cree buff which is live for us non-owl players?

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:47 AM

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Sucks that Toronto is a mixed roster

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:47 AM

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toronto could do a seoul dynasty thing

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just need 2 more western players

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:47 AM

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I don’t think it would work for them

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:47 AM

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it might

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:47 AM

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It’s not a worthwhile investment anyways

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:48 AM

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probs gonna drop im37

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:48 AM

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Yeah

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Or trade him

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:48 AM

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why trade?

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no one really wants him

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:48 AM

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To get other players idk

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:48 AM

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he is not very valuable

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he probs go back to contenders

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Honestly I’m kinda surprised that water hasn’t been signed yet

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:49 AM

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or Florida might pick him up idk

echo quest Jul 9, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Logix got an offer from Washington for s2 he turned it down

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Since they didn’t offer enough

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Yeah

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Makes sense

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:50 AM

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well least logix grinda out his zarya in contenders

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Logix is pretty valuable bc he has a nice widow and Zarya

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:50 AM

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hope Toronto does well next stage

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Paris too

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:50 AM

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but at least logix got on a better org than mayhem

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Toronto has potential they just need to build synergy

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Love seeing tracer players getting nutty at widow

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Paris is just not good

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Parii

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:51 AM

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They represent EU but they don’t even have the best EU players

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:51 AM

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2-2-2 lock could bring SDB and SoOn back

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Soon would be the widow

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Paris has a lacking tank line

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Every team gonna need a dedi widow player

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:51 AM

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imagine a Genji Tracer meta

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Paris could go hard

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Which team had the weakest widow rn?

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Fragi4Paris

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:51 AM

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no team really has a weak widow

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their pretty much top tier

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Hard to say

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:52 AM

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No team off the top of my head

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:52 AM

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widows would look worse with bad team coordination

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Even the bottom teams got good widows

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:52 AM

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yeah, bottom 3 have Saya, Corey, and Logix

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:52 AM

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As of now SFS don’t have a dedicated widow that we have seen

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:53 AM

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they have 2

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one played last yr

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Who

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Striker

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:53 AM

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no

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there was another one

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:53 AM

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We haven’t seen striker play

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:53 AM

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forget his name

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Architect

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^ that guy

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 1:54 AM

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Everyone been talking about how much striker has been grinding widow

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:54 AM

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Architect is a projectile

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:54 AM

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pretty sure Architect is projectile

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 1:54 AM

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Architect could.play widow tho

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:54 AM

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he is a flex

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 1:54 AM

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He played widow when genji was bad

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:54 AM

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Yeah Striker has been grinding but we have not seen his Widow this year

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:54 AM

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so Architect is a good Zacharee?

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:54 AM

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huh

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Architect is one of the best flex dps out there

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Architect is really really good

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:55 AM

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I don't really remember much of SFS from last year

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paid them no attention

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:55 AM

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He just happens to be in the roster with 4 amazing dps

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 1:55 AM

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SFS was bad last year

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Architect was a bright spot on sfs last yr

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:55 AM

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SFS has mostly young talent

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Last year

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:55 AM

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they were mediocre last year

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:55 AM

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They were building for he future

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But they said screw it and signed a bunch of Koreans

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And now they good

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:56 AM

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i mean super, sintraa, those 2 were the future

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:56 AM

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starting to slip a bit tho

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:56 AM

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same with moth

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all those 3 were super stars in the 2nd koreans

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:56 AM

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Moth is really really goo

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Good

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:56 AM

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goo

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 1:57 AM

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moth is a supp, right?

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:57 AM

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but yea shock roster is one the most stacked I've seen

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:57 AM

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It’s stacked and they have giant egos now lol

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:57 AM

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half of them are top 5 in their roles

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:57 AM

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their egos is why I don't really like the team

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:57 AM

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They are all Top 5

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Shock would be good if they would pop their egos and grind that’s why hey were so good in Stage 2

trim shadow Jul 9, 2019, 1:58 AM

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Florida is doing a sfs think about it

limber pine Jul 9, 2019, 1:58 AM

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The Shock are good?

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:58 AM

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Florida PepeLaugh

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 1:58 AM

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doesn't help that Super tilts really fuckin easy

trim shadow Jul 9, 2019, 1:58 AM

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Florida top 5 next year ill have a heart attack

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 1:59 AM

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sinatraa isn't one of those egos ?

trim shadow Jul 9, 2019, 1:59 AM

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Its a extrememly long off season so

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:59 AM

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I dont think florida will ever be good even with a good roster

trim shadow Jul 9, 2019, 1:59 AM

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If florida sticks to there 12

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Im scared

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Dont hug me

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 1:59 AM

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@tropic herald

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:59 AM

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I mean they fuck over the misfits roster in season 1

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 1:59 AM

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@idle beacon

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 1:59 AM

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and that roster was pretty pog in EU

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 1:59 AM

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super and sinatraa played last year and didnt help much

trim shadow Jul 9, 2019, 1:59 AM

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Super especially

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 1:59 AM

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@tropic herald what egos r u talkin about 😃

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 2:00 AM

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more shock had time to develop their goats and meta became the best thing

trim shadow Jul 9, 2019, 2:00 AM

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Sinatraa didnt come in till this year wym?

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 2:00 AM

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Florida should become Miami

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 2:00 AM

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under crusty's guidance

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sinatraa and super turned 18 last year mid season

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 2:00 AM

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I’d say Sinatraa and Super can both get pretty full of themselves

trim shadow Jul 9, 2019, 2:00 AM

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Florida probably wanted to represent all of florida

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 2:00 AM

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daddy dhak

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 2:00 AM

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florida wanted to be Miami at first

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 2:00 AM

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Florida is not a good state to represent

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 2:00 AM

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but they couldn't for whatever reason

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 2:01 AM

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flo-rida

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 2:01 AM

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Miami mayhem rolls off the tongue better

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 2:01 AM

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Miami Mayhem sounds so much better

trim shadow Jul 9, 2019, 2:01 AM

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Yah

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 2:01 AM

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And Miami is actually mayhem

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 2:01 AM

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god I hope they can change their name

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 2:01 AM

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miami muppets

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 2:01 AM

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i think mayhem is pushing to change their colors

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to fit the miami vice colors

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but they have to wait until next yr

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 2:01 AM

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Green and Orange?

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 2:02 AM

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pink, blue, black

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 2:02 AM

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Oh

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 2:02 AM

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neon colors

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 2:02 AM

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an edgy Spark

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 2:02 AM

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look at their alternate jersey for better reference

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 2:02 AM

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80s colors?

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 2:02 AM

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It’d be cool to have maybe 5 more expansion teams

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 2:03 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/miami-vice-80s-party-night-drive-gif-13625354

Tenor

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 2:03 AM

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miami metro PD

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 2:03 AM

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basically that gif

scarlet tinsel Jul 9, 2019, 2:03 AM

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iirc there's no new teams for Season 3

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 2:03 AM

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^

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 2:03 AM

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i want a 5vs5 mode

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 2:03 AM

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There is a bunch of Contenders talent that could be in OWL

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Also rip Harb for getting dropped

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 2:04 AM

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harb should learn dva

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 2:04 AM

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think he just plain doesnt like the hero

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 2:04 AM

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He has a good pool

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 2:04 AM

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well thats what holding him back

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 2:04 AM

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hog is in his blood

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 2:04 AM

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he needs a good dva if hes a off tank player

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 2:04 AM

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I think Dva is falling off

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 2:05 AM

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it wont fall over in winston meta's

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 2:05 AM

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wonston

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 2:05 AM

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dva will still have a decent pickrate

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just no 90% like most of past OW

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 2:05 AM

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if dva falls of

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 2:06 AM

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the thing with dva is that shes the only real off tank in the game

idle beacon Jul 9, 2019, 2:06 AM

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what will poko be up to then?

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 2:06 AM

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playing off tank

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Who do you think would pick up Water?

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 2:06 AM

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poko has a good zarya

echo quest Jul 9, 2019, 2:12 AM

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@tropic herald who are the 4 amazing dps?

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Striker rascal and architect

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 2:13 AM

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Sinatraa

trim shadow Jul 9, 2019, 2:13 AM

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uk since immortals bought houston i wonder if theyre gonna rebrand houston

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like..the new parent company or what not

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whoever buys houston

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 2:14 AM

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Doesn’t immortals own another team?

trim shadow Jul 9, 2019, 2:14 AM

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la valiant

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 2:45 AM

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sfs got some nutty dps, they could cover all dps

silent cliff Jul 9, 2019, 3:00 AM

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oh definitely

hidden vault Jul 9, 2019, 4:00 AM

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But they kicked babybay and danteh away:(

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(I'm sure danteh is in a better team now)

vale pond Jul 9, 2019, 4:04 AM

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babybay has a chance to play too so good for him right?

echo quest Jul 9, 2019, 4:10 AM

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I wouldn’t call sinatraa an amazing dps

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He wasn’t even the best western tracer

silent cliff Jul 9, 2019, 4:21 AM

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danteh and babybay actually has the chance to play so, i guess it's better

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also they kind of kicked sleepy too for viol2t

echo quest Jul 9, 2019, 4:22 AM

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Understandable but feelsbadman

hidden vault Jul 9, 2019, 4:23 AM

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Then what about the rest

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Nevix (the forgotten guy)

silent cliff Jul 9, 2019, 4:24 AM

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what's a team that needs a a good dva

hidden vault Jul 9, 2019, 4:24 AM

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Smurf doesn't stand in for super anymore

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None

silent cliff Jul 9, 2019, 4:24 AM

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or isn't nevix a flex

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 4:24 AM

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nevix is an extreme flex

hidden vault Jul 9, 2019, 4:24 AM

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Architect forgotten

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 4:24 AM

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can practically play every role in the game

hidden vault Jul 9, 2019, 4:24 AM

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Striker

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Somewhut forgotten

echo quest Jul 9, 2019, 5:42 AM

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FU vs 02 blast let’s go dude

karmic grotto Jul 9, 2019, 8:17 AM

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why this match important?

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shiuldt FU play vs EM

echo quest Jul 9, 2019, 8:20 AM

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O2 beat EM

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Blizzard not supporting teams outside of top 10 owwc is just sad

hidden vault Jul 9, 2019, 8:28 AM

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It's the teams outside of top 10 that needs support

echo quest Jul 9, 2019, 9:11 AM

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Team USA should be Corey,Danteh,FCT,Space,Moth and Sleepy

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Blase as the7th man

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QuarterFinals ez clap

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Forreal tho China and SK will smirk any team

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Guxue,Elsa,Krystal,Leave,Coldest and yvelta

hidden vault Jul 9, 2019, 9:38 AM

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Haha no sintraa?

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I would expect him to be in

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There's no brig player too

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No projectile

tawny sigil Jul 9, 2019, 9:42 AM

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everyone lost fate in sinatraa since sombra goats started to be prominent

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 9:55 AM

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i lost faith in humanity

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when that happened

tawny sigil Jul 9, 2019, 10:03 AM

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those pepega emp though

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 10:29 AM

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Super might be a better choice bc he has pre existing synergy with more players in that roster

forest raven Jul 9, 2019, 10:30 AM

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Fuckin shit

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Stage 3 grand final is at 6am for me

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Weak

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 10:30 AM

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Sinatraa probably wouldn’t be picked unless Zarya stays meta

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And I’ve thought that KSF might get a spot over Corey let’s see what Aero chooses

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Hopefully not Zach

forest raven Jul 9, 2019, 10:39 AM

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LOL the quality on the contenders stream https://i.imgur.com/Oz5zuHe.png

Imgur

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1080p btw

tawny sigil Jul 9, 2019, 10:43 AM

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how the hell did washington justice get 4 draw in 1 stage

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that is the first time that ever happened including season 1 and season 1 had 10 match stage

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not sure what that means about the justice

forest raven Jul 9, 2019, 10:44 AM

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Justice is shit

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That's not anything new

tawny sigil Jul 9, 2019, 10:45 AM

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draws should be an indication of close match shouldn't it?

forest raven Jul 9, 2019, 10:45 AM

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Or an ability to throw away what should have been a won map

tawny sigil Jul 9, 2019, 10:46 AM

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i guess

glass lagoon Jul 9, 2019, 1:09 PM

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yall what if shanghai wins

tawny sigil Jul 9, 2019, 1:10 PM

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riots in the streets

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happy riot, where we destroy everything cause we're so pump'd

silent cliff Jul 9, 2019, 1:16 PM

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also where did you get the quality of that stream?

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because if it's the NA contenders channel it's just the restream of the korean broadcast

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hence the quality drop

little silo Jul 9, 2019, 1:18 PM

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Quality in Contenders has been weird today but its good rn

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actually scratch that the bitrate is low

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O2 Blast are falling apart rn my god

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Ok they made an insane comeback on point A

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Flex support in pro Overwatch has so many insane players. Maybe the role with the highest average talent

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Myunbong is nutty

karmic grotto Jul 9, 2019, 2:08 PM

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what the fuck

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0.00

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shuldnt that be a draw?

lime owl Jul 9, 2019, 2:13 PM

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SanFranciscoShock

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🇸 🇭 🇴 🇨 🇰

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🇹 🇭 🇪

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🇼 🇴 🇷 🇱 🇩

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 2:17 PM

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By putting in striker and lose

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Like florida man

lime owl Jul 9, 2019, 2:18 PM

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The Shock are better than the Mayhem, honestly

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 2:18 PM

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I dont understand, who are you talking to that thought otherwise

lime owl Jul 9, 2019, 2:19 PM

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AtlantaReign

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🇱 🇪 🇹

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🇮 🇹

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🇷 🇪 🇮 🇬 🇳

hard shuttle Jul 9, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Paris Eternal

echo quest Jul 9, 2019, 3:49 PM

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@hidden vault brig is complete ass outside of goats

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No need for Sinatraa

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Blase is a flex

hidden vault Jul 9, 2019, 3:50 PM

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Hmm?

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What about hydration?

little silo Jul 9, 2019, 3:53 PM

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I think blase is better than hydration rn

hard shuttle Jul 9, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Paris Eternal

hidden vault Jul 9, 2019, 3:57 PM

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Then hydration can play for Brazil instead!

echo quest Jul 9, 2019, 4:12 PM

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He doesn’t rep tho

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Them*

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 4:21 PM

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Blase and Hydration have basically the same pool but Blasé comes in clutch

hard shuttle Jul 9, 2019, 4:45 PM

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Paris Wtwrnal

outer sluice Jul 9, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Houston Putlpws

tawny sigil Jul 9, 2019, 5:00 PM

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so role lock is confirmed for stage 4?

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or is blizzard guides reporting old news and just saying its confirmed

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using fissure as a confirm button

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pretty sure fissure was just fucking around

tropic herald Jul 9, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Guess we will find out in Stage 4

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 5:38 PM

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no blizzard representative or official has confirmed it

pearl stratus Jul 9, 2019, 6:22 PM

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They also could have backed away from it, seeing how the league is playing now.

hidden osprey Jul 9, 2019, 6:33 PM

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!schedule

somber yewBOT Jul 9, 2019, 6:33 PM

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Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 4 Week 1

<:HOU:438251672821563402> HOU vs PAR undefined

Jul 25th 19:00 EDT (in 16 days)

<:GLA:438251672632950787> GLA vs NYE <:NYE:438251672997724160>

Jul 25th 20:45 EDT (in 16 days)

undefined GZC vs PHI <:PHI:438251672536481794>

Jul 25th 22:30 EDT (in 16 days)

<:SHD:438251672599527437> SHD vs VAN undefined

Jul 26th 00:15 EDT (in 16 days)

undefined TOR vs WAS undefined

Jul 26th 19:00 EDT (in 17 days)

<:DAL:438251672783814657> DAL vs LDN <:LDN:438251672876351489>

Jul 26th 20:45 EDT (in 17 days)

<:SEO:438251672754585602> SEO vs SFS <:SFS:438251672712642571>

Jul 26th 22:30 EDT (in 17 days)

<:PHI:438251672536481794> PHI vs CDH undefined

Jul 27th 00:15 EDT (in 17 days)

undefined PAR vs VAL <:VAL:438251672720900097>

Jul 27th 15:00 EDT (in 18 days)

<:BOS:438251672633081857> BOS vs GZC undefined

Jul 27th 16:45 EDT (in 18 days)

<:GLA:438251672632950787> GLA vs HOU <:HOU:438251672821563402>

Jul 27th 18:30 EDT (in 18 days)

undefined ATL vs HZS undefined

Jul 27th 20:15 EDT (in 18 days)

<:SHD:438251672599527437> SHD vs SEO <:SEO:438251672754585602>

Jul 28th 15:00 EDT (in 19 days)

<:LDN:438251672876351489> LDN vs TOR undefined

Jul 28th 16:45 EDT (in 19 days)

undefined VAN vs FLA <:FLA:438251672779882506>

Jul 28th 18:30 EDT (in 19 days)

<:BOS:438251672633081857> BOS vs CDH undefined

Jul 28th 20:15 EDT (in 19 days)

balmy wolf Jul 9, 2019, 8:30 PM

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!schedule

somber yewBOT Jul 9, 2019, 8:30 PM

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Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 4 Week 1

<:HOU:438251672821563402> HOU vs PAR undefined

Jul 25th 19:00 EDT (in 16 days)

<:GLA:438251672632950787> GLA vs NYE <:NYE:438251672997724160>

Jul 25th 20:45 EDT (in 16 days)

undefined GZC vs PHI <:PHI:438251672536481794>

Jul 25th 22:30 EDT (in 16 days)

<:SHD:438251672599527437> SHD vs VAN undefined

Jul 26th 00:15 EDT (in 16 days)

undefined TOR vs WAS undefined

Jul 26th 19:00 EDT (in 17 days)

<:DAL:438251672783814657> DAL vs LDN <:LDN:438251672876351489>

Jul 26th 20:45 EDT (in 17 days)

<:SEO:438251672754585602> SEO vs SFS <:SFS:438251672712642571>

Jul 26th 22:30 EDT (in 17 days)

<:PHI:438251672536481794> PHI vs CDH undefined

Jul 27th 00:15 EDT (in 17 days)

undefined PAR vs VAL <:VAL:438251672720900097>

Jul 27th 15:00 EDT (in 18 days)

<:BOS:438251672633081857> BOS vs GZC undefined

Jul 27th 16:45 EDT (in 18 days)

<:GLA:438251672632950787> GLA vs HOU <:HOU:438251672821563402>

Jul 27th 18:30 EDT (in 18 days)

undefined ATL vs HZS undefined

Jul 27th 20:15 EDT (in 18 days)

<:SHD:438251672599527437> SHD vs SEO <:SEO:438251672754585602>

Jul 28th 15:00 EDT (in 19 days)

<:LDN:438251672876351489> LDN vs TOR undefined

Jul 28th 16:45 EDT (in 19 days)

undefined VAN vs FLA <:FLA:438251672779882506>

Jul 28th 18:30 EDT (in 19 days)

<:BOS:438251672633081857> BOS vs CDH undefined

Jul 28th 20:15 EDT (in 19 days)

trim shadow Jul 9, 2019, 8:58 PM

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New commisioner got announced

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Pete vlastelica

gaunt acorn Jul 9, 2019, 9:05 PM

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http://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/23053241/meet-pete-the-new-commish

The Overwatch League

Meet Pete, the New Commish

Overwatch League commissioner Pete Vlastelica talks about the current state of the league and where it’s headed in the future.

trim shadow Jul 9, 2019, 9:22 PM

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Sounds like hes sticking to nates pathway for home markets next season

hearty nebula Jul 9, 2019, 10:50 PM

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@analog flint baited

jagged crater Jul 9, 2019, 10:51 PM

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I miss Nate's smokey voice

empty pebble Jul 9, 2019, 11:17 PM

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Sorry bro but he's working on Fortnite esports

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Aka untrue esports

trim shadow Jul 9, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Aka kids esports

severe junco Jul 9, 2019, 11:30 PM

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epic's paying the money, doesn't matter

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as much of not an esport it is, you gotta respect the prize pool

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 12:00 AM

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That is sadly true

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Fucking what 3 million?

upper niche Jul 10, 2019, 12:00 AM

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pft, per month eh?

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 12:02 AM

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I would do the same thing as Nate 100%

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Get the bag

dapper lantern Jul 10, 2019, 12:38 AM

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https://twitter.com/dafran/status/1148751671650111488?s=19

dafran (@dafran)

@Mangachu_ I, dafran, hereby 100% fully acknowledge u, Mangachu, as the Alpha Torbjorn and me being drunk is NOT an excuse. Kneel before the lord of the 🔨

hidden vault Jul 10, 2019, 12:45 AM

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Did dafran lose to mangachu in the torb fight?

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Isn't Pete Vlastelica the guy everyone hates in Bilzzard? He favours traditional media?

upper niche Jul 10, 2019, 12:47 AM

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yuuuuuup

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Is it any surprise he appointed himself to the position? It reeks of "Everyone else has these ideas that I don't like... and since noone else is putting up ideas I agree with, I'll do it myself".

hidden vault Jul 10, 2019, 1:27 AM

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Owl doomed?

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 1:31 AM

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Nah

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If Mano isn’t a top 5 candidate for mvp there is something seriously wrong with the voting

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 1:56 AM

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Mano deserves mvp

coral copper Jul 10, 2019, 1:58 AM

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why is zacharee so shit at everything he lays

hidden vault Jul 10, 2019, 1:58 AM

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Jjonak again

coral copper Jul 10, 2019, 1:58 AM

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plays

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zacharee should go back to contenders where hebelongs

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give jake mvp lulk

hidden vault Jul 10, 2019, 1:59 AM

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Aero is here to protect him

coral copper Jul 10, 2019, 1:59 AM

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ik

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he is a biased piece of work

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just promoted him cause of fusion university

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aero is shit now that they hype is gone

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Usa world cup 2018 omegalul

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 2:47 AM

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Team USA could be pretty good this year Aero just needs to pick the right players

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 2:47 AM

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PepeLaugh

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 2:50 AM

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Yeah

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Ik

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It’s not gonna happen

proven saddle Jul 10, 2019, 3:01 AM

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Oh man I'm so hyped to see Canada in OWWC

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:01 AM

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Imagine believing in aero todo good

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When zach has started all year

proven saddle Jul 10, 2019, 3:02 AM

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I'm so hyped to see Vancouver

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:02 AM

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And even when zach gets on his heros hes mediocre

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 3:02 AM

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canada is gonne be the same team for the last 2 yrs

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:02 AM

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taimou for team usa

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:02 AM

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Yes

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:02 AM

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canada wasn't the same team 2 years in a row

proven saddle Jul 10, 2019, 3:02 AM

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Nah, now there's two expansion Canadian teams

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:02 AM

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Canada will probably be the exact same roster

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:02 AM

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both supports were different

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bani and crimzo were new last year

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Whens owwc again?

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:03 AM

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november -- blizzcon

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Damn thats far

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Thats end of owl?

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Didnt it used to be in summer

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:03 AM

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owl ends in like a month and a half

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:03 AM

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@proven saddle Other than Mangachu no one in the Canadian teams can rep Canada

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:03 AM

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no, you're thinking of the qualifiers

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Well regular season ends in a month

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:03 AM

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those are sooner

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Then you have play ins

proven saddle Jul 10, 2019, 3:03 AM

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I know it was a joke

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Post season

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:04 AM

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Oh

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:04 AM

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Grand finals in philly

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I wish playoffs were in philly

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:04 AM

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SK has so many options rn

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:04 AM

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world cup qualifiers are coming up soon then the actual event is in november

proven saddle Jul 10, 2019, 3:05 AM

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It's so weird, because we were used to South Korea roster to be NYXL + carpe

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But now they have Titans and dragons players too

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Sk could like

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Go vancouver new york

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Or vancouver and some big names around the leauge

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Jjonak is like guranteed as always

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:06 AM

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keep in mind crusty is the head coach for team sk

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:06 AM

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Unless jjonak doesnt want todo it

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:06 AM

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we may see choi

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:06 AM

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Wait crusty is kr?

proven saddle Jul 10, 2019, 3:06 AM

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Idk, Vancouver and New York seems incompatible

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:06 AM

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I thought crusty was a american

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:06 AM

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monkaHmm

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:06 AM

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Theyll do a mix of the rosters

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Like mano jjonak sbb Slime Seominsoo stitch etc

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Something like that

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:07 AM

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keep in mind world cup will almost certainly be 2-2-2 locked

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:07 AM

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Bumper for sk would shock meo

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:07 AM

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so it may take some time to determine the front-runners in such a scenario

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:07 AM

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Then in 222 bumper will never make it

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Unless tizi comes in and steals his starting position and pops off

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:07 AM

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i believe mano will be the main tank pick

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:07 AM

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Mano for sure is MT

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He is by far better

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:07 AM

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Theres like no other mt i know of that will get in over mano

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:07 AM

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sk is also trialing non-owl talent

proven saddle Jul 10, 2019, 3:08 AM

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The thing is why would you run bumper without jjanu and SMS?

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:08 AM

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so there is a chance the roster may not be purely owl

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:08 AM

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I mean

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Kaiser?

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:08 AM

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i can't speak for the likelihood of that occuring

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Bumper as MY would guarantee they have to play hyper aggressive

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MT

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:08 AM

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but it remains a possibility nonetheless

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Are wc teams allowed to have subs

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:08 AM

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team sk can afford to play hyper aggressive, if we're being honest

proven saddle Jul 10, 2019, 3:08 AM

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There's also flow3r 👀

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:08 AM

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yes @trim shadow

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i believe one sub was permitted for the main event last year

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:09 AM

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They could

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Then bumper could be a back up

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:09 AM

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But I just don’t see Bumper over Mano

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Not in any circumstance

proven saddle Jul 10, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Me neither

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:09 AM

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i think the sub (for every team) will almost certainly be a dps player

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not a main tank

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:09 AM

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The sub is almost always a Hit scan Dps

proven saddle Jul 10, 2019, 3:10 AM

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Like I said NYXL + carpe

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:10 AM

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i can't predict what the meta will be in 4 months

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but yeah

proven saddle Jul 10, 2019, 3:10 AM

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But they don't really need another hitscan having both pine and flower benched

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:10 AM

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i don't see nyxl + carpe being the final roster this year

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there are better subs for dps than pine or flower

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we're talking the entirety of south korea here

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:11 AM

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Mano and Fury would make a pretty good tank line

proven saddle Jul 10, 2019, 3:11 AM

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@gaunt acorn nah, me neither because right now there are better hitscan options than carpe

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@tropic herald that would be cool

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:11 AM

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Mano is guaranteed

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But I’m trying to think of all the flex tanks

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And Fury seems like the best

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What other Korean flex tanks are there?

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:13 AM

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for a moment, consider

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:13 AM

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Jjanu, Meko

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Choi

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:13 AM

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in 2-2-2 lock, flex tanks won't be nearly as necessary

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it'll revert to winston + d.va for the most part, i'd wager

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:13 AM

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They are still a “flex” tank though

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:13 AM

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meaning off-tank players will mostly be on d.va like before

proven saddle Jul 10, 2019, 3:13 AM

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South korean hitscan have carpe, diem, nenne, fleta, flower and pine and more

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Well if that’s the case the tank line is for sure Mano and Fury

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:14 AM

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jjanu is also a very good d.va

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Yeah

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:14 AM

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his zarya is less impressive, but as mentioned, that may not be as relevant by blizzcon

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Well idk Zarya will always be relevant on a few maps

proven saddle Jul 10, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Arriving to Kings row

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:15 AM

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😍

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By far the best map

proven saddle Jul 10, 2019, 3:15 AM

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At least of the mixed by fsr

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2 cp I would stick with anubis

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:16 AM

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I’d be happy if Diem got on SK

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:16 AM

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i don't think zarya won't get played at all

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:16 AM

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Not for his Zarya

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:16 AM

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she'll just be in a similar situation to dive era

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:16 AM

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His Widow 🥵

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:16 AM

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played situationally, on a few maps

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never forget s1 zunba

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redsHands

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:17 AM

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I think Support line is pretty straight forward

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Anamo and Jjonak

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:17 AM

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i don't think that's straightforward

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:17 AM

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Maaaaybe Slims

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:18 AM

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what if kariv remains consistent

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:18 AM

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Well see

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:18 AM

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what if so many other things

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:18 AM

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But right now

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:18 AM

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i don't think any position is guaranteed except perhaps main tank

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:18 AM

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Anamo Jjonak seems so reasonable

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:18 AM

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and even then, things may change

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:19 AM

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Unless Mano falls off somehow

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He’s got the spot

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:19 AM

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fissure un-retires

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smile

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:21 AM

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i mean

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mistakes un retired

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its not impossible

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:21 AM

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who is more indecisive than fissure? nobody

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:21 AM

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Dafran unretires GWseremePeepoHappy

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:22 AM

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i think mano as main tank is far from definite

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when you have players like ryujehong

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Fissure said he might unretire too

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:22 AM

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they probably would have to throw decay money at dafran to get him to unretire

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Jehong is probably rank 1 MT ur right

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 3:22 AM

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i seriously wanna see what he was made off in a dps meta

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 3:31 AM

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dafran already had a big salary

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u cant convince players like that with money

oak bloom Jul 10, 2019, 3:33 AM

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dafran doesnt seem like the person to do something just because of money

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 3:39 AM

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definitely not

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 4:16 AM

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Kariv is pog but no way he gets the spot

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 4:17 AM

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it's hard to make accurate predictions about a meta we know little about

silent cliff Jul 10, 2019, 4:24 AM

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is viol2t's ana good

hidden vault Jul 10, 2019, 4:40 AM

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New meta?

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Ana with winston dva?

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 4:42 AM

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Ye it is

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Jjonak for flex support again

hidden vault Jul 10, 2019, 4:54 AM

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Why is it support flex and not off support?

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 4:57 AM

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It’s the same thing

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Leave is the best player not in OWL don’t @ me

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Doesn’t play pro OW for a year and destroys during the World Cup

outer sluice Jul 10, 2019, 5:06 AM

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Yo

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I don’t if y’all heard but the Outlaws are taking the W this week against Vanny.

uneven wren Jul 10, 2019, 5:25 AM

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i don't know if you heard but you are very very wrong

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 5:26 AM

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Nah they will stomped

gaunt acorn Jul 10, 2019, 5:26 AM

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let him dream

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 5:28 AM

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Guxue will dunk on LaV again

hidden vault Jul 10, 2019, 5:35 AM

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Then why is it off tank and not flex tank?

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Overwatch literally calls them flex lol

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 5:44 AM

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It’s literally the same thing lmaooooo l

hidden vault Jul 10, 2019, 6:01 AM

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No

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 6:16 AM

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Yes it is

proven saddle Jul 10, 2019, 6:18 AM

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As far as I know there are only main tanks (Hammond, orisa, Winston, rein) and offtanks (hog, dva, zarya) idk what makes different an offtank and a flextank

hidden vault Jul 10, 2019, 6:19 AM

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A flex tank means you can play anything that it's a tank

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And flex means you can play any role and most heroes

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 6:21 AM

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Bruh flex tank and off tank mean the same thing

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Dva,hog and zarya

supple prism Jul 10, 2019, 6:22 AM

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off tank defines heroes, flex tank defines players

jovial fiber Jul 10, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Leave PogChimp

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 6:25 AM

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Agill just confirmed lmao

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It means the same thing

supple prism Jul 10, 2019, 6:28 AM

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who

sullen berry Jul 10, 2019, 6:29 AM

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Agilities LosAngelesValiant

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probably

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 6:30 AM

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Agilities

sullen berry Jul 10, 2019, 6:30 AM

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okay thanks

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thought Agill was someone else

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T1W.GZA

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and Meta Gaming

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if you don't see it

#

you'll miss how Guangzhou has two core pools of talent they can pick from

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and that's probably how they'll depend on talent that won't be as competitive for buyout in contenders

hidden vault Jul 10, 2019, 7:02 AM

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Guangzhou Charge has 2 academy teams?

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Am I wrong LOL

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Oh wait GZ academy is currently inactive

queen drift Jul 10, 2019, 9:12 AM

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Who is Hangzhous sombra?

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 9:55 AM

#

GodsB

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 10:01 AM

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What are the mainnhealers

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Like that hero's

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Also what role is the most sought after in the pro scene currently

shell sierra Jul 10, 2019, 10:02 AM

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Mercy lucio and moira

queen drift Jul 10, 2019, 10:17 AM

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most sought after.. off support gets the most praise / has the most impact right now

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what do teams want? Probably flex dps

red anvil Jul 10, 2019, 10:18 AM

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by far MT

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there is a huge lack of upcoming MTs

queen drift Jul 10, 2019, 10:19 AM

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main tanks specifically able to ball / orisa

red anvil Jul 10, 2019, 10:19 AM

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no MTs in general

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 10:24 AM

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yeah most MTs arent great balls

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more likely to have a ball specialist

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 11:22 AM

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Did the seoul dynasty have alt jerseys?

hidden vault Jul 10, 2019, 11:23 AM

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No

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 11:23 AM

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Smh

hidden vault Jul 10, 2019, 11:23 AM

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And doesn't ria do some sombra?

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 11:23 AM

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You see I hate the term main healer cause it isn’t an apt descriptor

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Ppl told me it was lucio and mercy cause those are the most run hence why they are considered main healers

worthy pilot Jul 10, 2019, 11:24 AM

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main healers are considered the healers who will give the most amount of healing.

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I think most people agree witht his

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 11:24 AM

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But I think, myself included, a lot of people hear main healer and think “of their primary job is to mainly heal”

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A lot of ppl think that but a lot of ppl constantly go “main heals is lucio and mercy” which isn’t telling anymore

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It’s often why instead I go primary healer and off healers instead of main and flex

worthy pilot Jul 10, 2019, 11:26 AM

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i have never heard anyone say that lucio is a main healer.

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 11:27 AM

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I have heard a shit ton of ppl who talk about esports in the highest scene call lucio and mercy main healers. On ladder it’s entirely different since they call moira, ana, and baptiste main healers due to pure healing numbers

forest raven Jul 10, 2019, 11:27 AM

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Main healer =/= main support

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 11:28 AM

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^ in the pro context described to me

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Primary healer eases the confusion

worthy pilot Jul 10, 2019, 11:28 AM

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whats the difference between main healer and main support?

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 11:28 AM

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I’ll let @forest raven take that question

forest raven Jul 10, 2019, 11:30 AM

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AFAIR main healer are the heroes that output the highest amount of healing, main support are the players that generally always play a support hero i.e. lucio, mercy

worthy pilot Jul 10, 2019, 11:30 AM

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ooh

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okay

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 11:31 AM

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The entire category of main healer needs to be updated in my opinion since it is a very common misconception among the general player base

forest raven Jul 10, 2019, 11:31 AM

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That's why in the pro context the players that play ana/zen/moira are called flex/off supports because they don't play healers exclusively

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i.e. flexing to dps in dps heavy comps or roadhog in double sniper

red anvil Jul 10, 2019, 12:06 PM

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Keep in mind language means a lot here

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Korean players use different wording then the west

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main tank = main tanker for instance

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there was also something about supports that confused the heck out of people which i could not quite remember what it was

karmic grotto Jul 10, 2019, 12:16 PM

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EZ

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 12:40 PM

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late to the convo

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but main tank creates space

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and you can get what off tank does

severe junco Jul 10, 2019, 1:03 PM

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main tank makes space, off tanks deal with individual threats

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Orisa can do both lmao

lime owl Jul 10, 2019, 1:03 PM

#

HoustonOutlaws

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🇹 🇪 🇽 🇦 🇸

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🇭 🇦 🇷 🇩

severe junco Jul 10, 2019, 1:07 PM

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TorontoDefiant
🇵 🇱 🇪 🇦 🇸 🇪
🇼 🇮 🇳
🇦
🇬 🇦 🇲 🇪

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 1:09 PM

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The outlaws is Ante Up

solar trout Jul 10, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Can't wait for the outlaws to not get a single win in tge playoffs

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Cant wait for new york vs SFshock

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Sounds like something someone with a super pfp would say

wind lance Jul 10, 2019, 3:08 PM

#

aaaaa

#

four days left and i only have like 87 league tokens i dont think i can get zenyatta skin

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 3:11 PM

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Yea u wont

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Better shell out some cash otherwise you might never get it

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@worthy pilot youre a coach and youve never heard of lucio being a main healer??

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hes been considered a main healer since the beta tournaments, in every single remotely high level ranked game the mercy player flexes to lucio bc its the same role, any t3+ team main support player plays both lucio and mercy

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Main Support: Mercy/Lucio
Flex Support: Everyone else

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This is VERY basic knowledge, like seriously since before overwatch even launched knowledge

plucky rune Jul 10, 2019, 3:33 PM

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the commonality between Lucio and mercy being that their kits aren't as mechanics heavy as the others and that where they're positioned during a fight allows them to get a good read on all 12 pieces of the board

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Lucio is a main healer cmon bruh

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Basic knowledge

calm holly Jul 10, 2019, 4:25 PM

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lol what

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No

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Main supports play mercy/lucio 90% of the time

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Flex support plays everything else

tropic herald Jul 10, 2019, 4:31 PM

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I don’t think Lucio is a main healer but he is for sure a main support

dapper lantern Jul 10, 2019, 4:41 PM

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brooooo

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there's going to be a meet and greet for jjonak and mano and you bet your fucking asses I'm going

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 4:47 PM

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um...

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main healer =/= main supp is that what you guys are saying?

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Main supports are also shot callers

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Most of the time

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Youll see lucio’s positioned far ahead to gain intel/ to get boops

worthy pilot Jul 10, 2019, 5:37 PM

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@balmy wolf Well i guess, however this knowledge doesnt really seem useful to me 🤷

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 5:38 PM

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You list yourself as a... Main Support player

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you don't even know what you play?

worthy pilot Jul 10, 2019, 5:39 PM

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I didnt know that people thought that a main support are mercy/lucio, i thought main support was the same as main healers, but that isnt the case.

queen drift Jul 10, 2019, 5:39 PM

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the coach doesnt know what roles are?

worthy pilot Jul 10, 2019, 5:39 PM

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But again. Why do i have to care about what healer is played the most?

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 5:40 PM

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coaches lol

karmic grotto Jul 10, 2019, 5:41 PM

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the way I see flex support/off support

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support with offensive abilities

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Boop would like a word with that definition.

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Main Support = Lucio/Mercy
Flex Support = Everyone else
Hitscan = Hitscans
Flex DPS = Everyone else
Main Tank = Ball/Winston/Rein/Orisa
Off Tank = Everyone else

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Why I have to tell this to a coach is beyond me

worthy pilot Jul 10, 2019, 5:43 PM

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@balmy wolf I dont think you understand.

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 5:44 PM

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what is brig considered?

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flex dps?

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 5:44 PM

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Well Flex DPS play her

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but she's a flex supp

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OT usually flexes onto sombra i.e.

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 5:45 PM

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off tank or the flex dps

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poko yelling ball ball ball ball

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Usually OT, its rare that the DPS is the Sombra unless you have a bad overlap of heroes.

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Shock being one of the exceptions where Choi needed time to grind Zarya so that Sinatraa could play both depending on 3:3 or 3:2:1.

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 5:48 PM

#

Lookin at outlaws

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not lettin danteh on sombra

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 5:48 PM

#

In fairness I think part of that was because Coolmatt is useless.

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And originally neither Linkzr or Jake played Zarya well.

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It was like Tracer all over again.

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 5:49 PM

#

folks

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 5:49 PM

#

they had spree and didnt even play him on zarya cuz he wasnt flexible enough

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 5:49 PM

#

Switch_OW

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whats happening there

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a lot

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i played against him

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blatant cheater

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his org is backing him

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lmaoi ye

#

the twitter of barah

#

sso obvious

#

some guy was saying its just a DC?

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 5:50 PM

#

Spree and Coolmatt both are clear 'This is what we're playing' people on Houston, so it runs into walls imo.

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It's like if Dragons put in Geguri.

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 5:50 PM

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Wait what happened

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 5:50 PM

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You know you're getting a D'va

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 5:51 PM

#

Who do you guys think will be top 5 in the mvp selection?

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 5:51 PM

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we gonna see a return of the specialists in 222

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 5:52 PM

#

to be fair geguri is solid on dva

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Sinatraa, mano, jjonak, guxue, and probably Someone from vancouver

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 5:52 PM

#

She is, I'm more just saying its telegraphed since she's not playing much else

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 5:53 PM

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Personally i think mano deserves mvp

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 5:53 PM

#

^

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Best main tank in the league

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 5:54 PM

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If it would be anyone from Vancouver

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 5:54 PM

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2 OWL dps players on your team, low GM player instalocks dps 🤔

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 5:54 PM

#

Twilight or jjanu

worthy pilot Jul 10, 2019, 5:54 PM

#

@balmy wolf 1. I Do know all the roles

@queen drift 2. The list is wrong Healers are categorize not by the amount of players by they are played. Its supposed to be like this
Main healer = Ana/moira/Mercy (baptiste)
Off healer = Everyone else
Hitscan = Hitscans
Flex DPS = Everyone else
Main Tank = Ball/Winston/Rein/Orisa
Off Tank = Everyone else

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 5:54 PM

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@jagged crater whats this about?

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 5:54 PM

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Easily hands down the best players I’ve seen on vancouver

worthy pilot Jul 10, 2019, 5:55 PM

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You dont categorize tanks or dps the how many players they are played. So why would you do that then for healers? Your not wrong with the off/main support thingy, however you dont put that in the same list as with the dps/tanks.

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 5:55 PM

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just random comp games ive seen

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 5:57 PM

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What the hell T7 type of garbage bullshit do you play in with that list.

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 5:57 PM

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@worthy pilot who categorized it by amount played?

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its not supposed to be like that

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how are you a coach???

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Do you play in like the Sandbox league?

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The fuck out of here with that bullshit.

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 5:58 PM

#

I remember a master player that shit talked zunba and once he found it was him went quiet real quick

worthy pilot Jul 10, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Leggo could you explain then what main support means? i am really confused

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 5:58 PM

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i remember that

worthy pilot Jul 10, 2019, 5:58 PM

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i think that this is just a giant misconception

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Legoo@you forgot about projectile@and hitscan

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 5:58 PM

#

Haksal being toxic is entertaining lmao

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 5:58 PM

#

Ana in paladins would be a main support..but in certain comps shes switched for zen who is 100% flex

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 5:59 PM

#

are we categorizing heroes or players?

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 5:59 PM

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No he didn't Hitscan = Hitscan, Flex = Everyone else.

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 5:59 PM

#

Widow soldier tracer genji hanzo

queen drift Jul 10, 2019, 5:59 PM

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how is this guy a coach lol

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 5:59 PM

#

Junkrat pharah torb and sym@to a extent

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^ projectile

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:00 PM

#

back when tracer was dominant, she had her own category: tracer

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:00 PM

#

Cancer*

#

Smallest hitbox in any game

#

Blinking everywhere

#

Could delete supports in 1 volley

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Thats called flanker

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 6:01 PM

#

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balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:01 PM

#

@worthy pilot main supports generally take more macro IGL leads

#

generally need less aim so they can shotcall more

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:01 PM

#

if we categorizing players, there was no "flanking" role, just tracer

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:02 PM

#

i feel bad for the people in this server who want coaching lmao

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:02 PM

#

Lucky for you paladins has a flank role

#

But u fortunately there off meta

#

Well a good chunk outside of 2 of them

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:02 PM

#

are you tellin me paladins is the better game

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 6:02 PM

#

Does paladins still have players?

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:02 PM

#

it does

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:02 PM

#

Ive been saying paladins is the better game since existent

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:03 PM

#

yeah some players

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:03 PM

#

Its not

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Funded well like blizzard

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But it makes hero shooter work

#

Where as overwatch is a fps

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:03 PM

#

Paladins is nice if you have downs syndrome or FAS.

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:03 PM

#

goats turned overwatch into a moba game

dapper lantern Jul 10, 2019, 6:03 PM

#

lmao

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:03 PM

#

Yeet

worthy pilot Jul 10, 2019, 6:03 PM

#

Leggo i am kinda tired so. Your right. I am wrong. Someone else today did say that main support were the healers that were played 90% of the time so that the reason i said that the list was done.

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:04 PM

#

I know I am

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:04 PM

#

Now that goats is kinda fading away its back to who can carry harder

#

I just wish corey was carpe

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:05 PM

#

i like that

#

i miss seeing hard carries

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:05 PM

#

well hello there my old friend

#

-dps

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:05 PM

#

people like to talk about how widow does not belong in OW

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:05 PM

#

Scus me what?

#

Who df says that

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:06 PM

#

a lot of people

dapper lantern Jul 10, 2019, 6:06 PM

#

a lot of people

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:06 PM

#

A LOT

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:06 PM

#

I mean I argue that in any game of an fps nature one shots are stupid, and shouldn't exist.

#

But not widow specifically.

#

Just the concept of a one shot mechanic.

dapper lantern Jul 10, 2019, 6:06 PM

#

like everytime she comes up

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:06 PM

#

really depends on the ttk of an fps

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:06 PM

#

we took a poll in some contenders teams about which hero people would want removed

dapper lantern Jul 10, 2019, 6:06 PM

#

there's someone or several people that go "ugh why is she here"

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:06 PM

#

a low ttk fps, one shot kills are fine

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:06 PM

#

brig, widow, and sombra were up there

#

Ppl who dont want the game dominated by a single player

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:06 PM

#

Low TTK FPS shouldn't have that much mobility.

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:06 PM

#

One shot mechanic laughs in leauge of legends

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:06 PM

#

call of duty and csgo for example, one shot kill weapons are perfectly fine

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:06 PM

#

It's why a comparison between TF2 Sniper and Widow never works.

echo quest Jul 10, 2019, 6:07 PM

#

Sombra makes playing tanks depressing lmao

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:07 PM

#

Well in csgo

#

There is suppose to be a one shot

#

It would be weird if there wasnt?

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:07 PM

#

Also arguably not in CSGO. The AWP is still the most whined abotu thing since 2002.

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:07 PM

#

i mean there was a long debate whether AWP needed to exist

#

the AWP was actually nerfed at one point in cs 1.6

#

pre-1.6, when it used to one shot the legs

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:08 PM

#

Theyve nerfed the awp tho

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:08 PM

#

It used to one shot anything.

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:08 PM

#

Its harder to strafe shot

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:08 PM

#

Hair follicles, sleeves, toes.

#

General direction of the player.

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:08 PM

#

CSGO awp is actually worse than its older counterparts because of the accuracy and strafe nerfs

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:08 PM

#

Im using csgo as a way to train my ana play

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:08 PM

#

people still complain about it

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:08 PM

#

But damn getting 1 shot in the chest sucks

#

No kevlar

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:09 PM

#

People will always complain about a one shot mechanic.

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:09 PM

#

even a headshot?

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:09 PM

#

In most situations its just bad development.

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:09 PM

#

Headshots are designed to be triple damage

karmic grotto Jul 10, 2019, 6:09 PM

#

remove widow

#

remove sombra

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:09 PM

#

😦

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:10 PM

#

My argument with Widow is (not that I think she needs to be removed) but that the general drawback of the one shot mechanic is typically mobility/speed, etc.

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:10 PM

#

Sombra is just

#

Bad design

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:10 PM

#

And while her grapple cooldown was removed, she's still insanely mobile.

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:10 PM

#

Its like lettinf the community make the character

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:10 PM

#

the grapple cooldown reduction was a bad idea, i agree

karmic grotto Jul 10, 2019, 6:10 PM

#

^

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:10 PM

#

I wouldnt mind as long as she needs to actually charge up to 100% to one shot ppl

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:10 PM

#

Also in a pure hitscan she removes some of the other mechanics that balance.

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:10 PM

#

That was a argument wayy back then

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:10 PM

#

Like in CoD you have to do the breathing control along with the aim.

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:10 PM

#

And blizzard was looking at it

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:10 PM

#

That wouldn't fit in OW, at all.

#

so as a hero she receives very limited drawbacks compared to the benefits of a one shot kill.

#

And while CSGO/CoD etc doesn't have a jumping monkey or a mech to fuck with you, both of those do get handled decently well.

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:12 PM

#

didnt CoD have that futuristic jetpack and wallrunning phase

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:12 PM

#

The only nerf I would think for widow is literally just her needing to charge 100% for her to kill ppl via headshot. I think thats more fair

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:12 PM

#

Yes

#

It was stupid

#

And gay

#

Good thinf they reveryed

#

But cod still plays like a hero shooter

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:12 PM

#

It was shitty titanfall was more the problem.

#

If they had done it well it would have been fine.

#

Titanfall handled that movement very well.

trim shadow Jul 10, 2019, 6:12 PM

#

Titanfall is underrated but then again It was cancer

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:12 PM

#

CoD handled it like a drunk cow given anti-grav boots

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:13 PM

#

widow needing to charge 100% to kill a 200hp target would prob kill her tbh

#

im fine with the ~60% charge to kill 200hp, just reduce her mobility

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:13 PM

#

For me its mostly her mobility. The cooldown on grapple is still short enough you can juke a lot of bullshit.

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:14 PM

#

same thing for hanzo, he didnt need the 4-5s leap

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:14 PM

#

I could have swore it was like

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80-90 for a 200 hp tatger

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:14 PM

#

blizz just randomly mobility buffed the two snipers

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:14 PM

#

My gripe with Hanzo is the arrow hit box.

latent crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:14 PM

#

Any flex support lucios in chat?

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:14 PM

#

I know they fixed it once, but its still bulky.

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:14 PM

#

Hanzo kills never feel earned

#

I literally play him and get a 4k every match and it never feels good or earned

#

Any bap main supports in chat

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:14 PM

#

Beyond that Hanzo is fine, his ult is meh the new storm arrow is nice.

latent crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

Any ana main supports in chat

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

Yo

dapper lantern Jul 10, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

yes

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

Ana support here

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

bring back scatter >:)

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

Fuck u

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

Toesrrows.

dapper lantern Jul 10, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

fuck off beemoo

#

I liked you until you said that

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

i miss watching wraxu own , you dont see him playing anymore since the hanzo change

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

I just want Blizzard to drop like...

#

6 heroes at once.

latent crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:15 PM

#

WRAXU LULW

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:15 PM

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All tanks and supports but mostly tanks

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:16 PM

#

then work towards hero bans over this 2/2/2 Fetal alcohol syndrome plan.

little silo Jul 10, 2019, 6:16 PM

#

you could watch arrge. Same level of play, better personality

latent crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:16 PM

#

No

#

That's just false

#

100%

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:16 PM

#

arrge shouts a lot of memes , maybe too many

#

too many freshnuts

latent crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:16 PM

#

And hes not crazy

#

He just has alot of clips because he says freshnuts

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:17 PM

#

for someone that streams that much

#

he shouts it like once a week

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:17 PM

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tho i dont really watch him, only highlights of him

little silo Jul 10, 2019, 6:17 PM

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its a meme at this point

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:17 PM

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cant watch everyone!

little silo Jul 10, 2019, 6:17 PM

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arrge doesnt go for the headshot, he goes for the FreshNuts

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:17 PM

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If u wanna watch ana or bap then watch ml7

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Dude is nutty

latent crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:17 PM

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No watch me I'm better than ml7

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:18 PM

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I doubt that with every fiber of my being

dapper lantern Jul 10, 2019, 6:18 PM

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🤔

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:18 PM

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surprisingly good OWL personality? stratus

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funny guy

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first time watched his stream, he was great

latent crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Idk I slept pro genjis man

dapper lantern Jul 10, 2019, 6:18 PM

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agreed, he's great

latent crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:18 PM

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I'm basically a pro

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:19 PM

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i'd also watch fusions whenever get a chance. Great comms

little silo Jul 10, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Sleepy is enjoyable

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good ana/Zen streams a lot because he cant sleep

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:19 PM

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So has ML7 almost consistently

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That shit is hard af

pearl stratus Jul 10, 2019, 6:19 PM

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I like Custa because I beat him in Smash when it came out.

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:19 PM

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too bad

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SM@SH

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Custa in general strikes me as a really good dude

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I loved meeting him and space at the dallas homestead

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:19 PM

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he drinks soylent, that's a plus in my book

little silo Jul 10, 2019, 6:20 PM

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he also has his own news show

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Ah yes

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The proud owner of CNN

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:20 PM

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yea custa good, ever since i first saw him on fnatic

latent crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:22 PM

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I could be pro but I'm being held back by my skill

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PepeHands

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:23 PM

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sounds a problem with a lot of people!

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damn skill, get better!

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just obtain more skill 4head

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:25 PM

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I really do hate that the only counters to a genji nano blade is to be so absurdly good with Ana to sleep him or for a sombra to hack him or to essentially waste an ult to negate him

latent crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:25 PM

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2 ults for one

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Definitely worth

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Just shatter

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Or grav

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Or cc

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Assuming it hits

latent crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Or stun

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Then aim better lulw

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Grav is a hard ult to trade out but you kinda have to cause no support ult saves you from it without a little addition on top of that in ladder

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:26 PM

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trans or beat usually saves

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trans you gotta bait his dash

latent crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Theres so many counters to genji lol

balmy wolf Jul 10, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Unless he hard focuses you. 180 dmg i think per nano blade swipe isnt enough for trans without some people peeling for the other

latent crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:27 PM

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It is if he slash dashes

jagged crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:27 PM

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he would have to slash dash quick to one shot 200hp

latent crater Jul 10, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Good genjis slash dash

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Or else trans counters it