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dreamy cave
supple prism
froze?
dreamy cave
the lagg yeah
tawny sigil
just pause and unpause
supple prism
yea
dreamy cave
what are they even doing
tawny sigil
doing what my rank games do
severe junco
come on defiant
tawny sigil
HOLD W GOD DAMMIT
severe junco
please defiant
severe junco
damn it
clear crane
lmaoooo
balmy wolf
god dammit
clear crane
qp comp
dapper lantern
they played that like fucking morons
supple prism
c9? they all died
clear crane
and wins XD
dapper lantern
literally just walk
midnight sage
Wooooooow
severe junco
defiant please
midnight sage
I cannot believe they won that
clear crane
defiant is so bad
dapper lantern
“yes, let’s just force ourselves into the corner for 3 minutes”
dreamy cave
yo that was sad in almost every way.
visual glen
Carried by Mr Logix
dapper lantern
fucking walk in, oh my god
native sage
biggest choke ive seen in a while
severe junco
we just couldn't get the hook on that point
little silo
no
dreamy cave
a tripple dps, ball 2 supports would have been fine
severe junco
i prefer for this not to be Paris Eternal all over again
the future is legit Ivy/Logix just swapping
i'm currently 2/2 with my picks
let's go gods
supple prism
i got the winners right but the scores wrong
dreamy cave
im so tired of this twich ad
supple prism
i dont get ads
dreamy cave
i bet u dont Norman
night tusk
still feelsbad fissure left OWL 😦 hope seoul can win today
severe junco
lmao mangachu
visual glen
Fissure 🐍
severe junco
mom said it's my turn on the PC
night tusk
oh your late xd
supple prism
retired
visual glen
Getting blown up by Pharah
clear crane
jeez mangachu
visual glen
No hitscan
night tusk
remember shadowburn pharah on this map 😦 me neither
clear crane
ooo they shuda let danteh lived
dreamy cave
shadowburn used to b so dope last year
visual glen
How did Outlaws win that lul
night tusk
WHAT
clear crane
lmfao
clear crane
toronto always finding a way to fuck it up
severe junco
what is this dps goats lmao
night tusk
choking 
midnight sage
Lol can't believe Outlaws got that point
balmy wolf
well at least outlaws will be murder in playoffs
severe junco
logix going widow poggers
minor flame
pepega tier v former pepega tier
clear crane
LMFAOOO BOINK
minor flame
HAHAHAHAHA
tawny sigil
boink mah boi
severe junco
YES
clear crane
boink feeder
severe junco
IMMORTALITY FIELD SAVE
night tusk
boink 
dreamy cave
big oof
midnight sage
This entire match has been a clusterfuck so far
tawny sigil
3-2 toront
dapper lantern
Twitter
night tusk
whats about the "dark jake" meme
severe junco
dive lmao
tawny sigil
his eyes were literaly dark
night tusk
I did not saw that lol
tawny sigil
the camera angle made his eyes look darker
severe junco
mangachu pharah 
balmy wolf
oh this looks like outlaws are gonna win
night tusk
Twitter
night tusk
what is this game!!!???
clear crane
outlaws def look like they dont belong near the top
even with their win against shock lol
severe junco
finally we made it
tawny sigil
this game is 2 bad team brawling it out
logix sub out coming next map, and they lose
mark my word
clear crane
logix has a horrible sombra
severe junco
god damn it
balmy wolf
this team keeps disappointing time after time
severe junco
please don't be paris eternal all over again
clear crane
outlaws are def getting whipped whoever they face first in the stage 3 playoffs if they keep this up
night tusk
https://twitter.com/owlfeettracker this twitter account is weird af....
Twitter
balmy wolf
I mean outlaws are gonna play either titans or NY in the playoffs so its pretty much over for them
tawny sigil
this is just a test stream
clear crane
its what they arent doing
severe junco
come on man
balmy wolf
oh well nice try TD
raw ermine
balmy wolf
I swear logix just started playing sombra and its dogshit
young trout
His widow was nutty though
tawny sigil
finally letting linkzr play dps
balmy wolf
alright im gonne skip this match, its pretty much over
night tusk
gg
dapper lantern
who’s a bad widowmaker in owl
night tusk
jake xd
dapper lantern
I’ll have to rephrase my tweet, nvm
midnight sage
Danteh
night tusk
I did not watch OWL that much this stage to get the bqb meme
visual glen
Defiant is so bad
tawny sigil
when you lose to houston with jake playing tracer
severe junco
we're so good and so bad at the same time
night tusk
stage 1 vs now is so different...
night tusk
I believed the coaches are praised to be really good
raw ermine
Phew
night tusk
gg
dapper lantern
I hate them
severe junco
it's hard being a defiant fan
raw ermine
^
night tusk
Defiant had to take eigenwalde. get punished hard
young trout
I’m an outlaws fan but I respect defiant
forest wharf
🇫
young trout
They have some really good players
midnight sage
Cannot believe Outlaws won with how bad they were playign at the start
trim shadow
I was rooting hard for toronto
night tusk
supple prism
the hell is that thing
night tusk
Lil babybay
trim shadow
I rlly was lol
On paper toronto is scary
Outside of..
There tanks
Well
Just yakpung
night tusk
Twitter
night tusk
but they won from shock
balmy wolf
doesnt mean much if u got into playoffs by facing shit teams
balmy wolf
same thing happened with DF
balmy wolf
DF
trim shadow
Shock
night tusk
I did not saw that taimou played but 2-3 is still not bad for df
balmy wolf
but houston is either gonna face titans, NY, or spark as their 1st game
trim shadow
Its likely
Houston is gonna get obliterated by vancouver
Now nyxl
Is a possible win
Hangzhou could just hard force 3-3 or 3-2-1 and out play houston
Hangzhou has the 2nd highest team fight win rate
night tusk
but Titans looked scary af today.. and I don't think that GLADS are really that bad..
severe junco
titans first? @trim shadow
trim shadow
1st seed
night tusk
I think titans will take it or spark.. or nyxl .. lol NYXL can be one aswell
or they choke again in stage playoffs xd
trim shadow
I got chengdu 3-1
I dont think fleta can hard carry if it becomes a dps war
San fran is in playoffs but there 3-2-1 is shaky
south brook
Okay then
dapper lantern
wow
severe junco
what the fuck is this entrance lmao
clear crane
wow they got the cosplayers from last week
severe junco
seoul lmao
dapper lantern
That’s cool
south brook
Lol these guys
night tusk
tawny sigil
i think the only way seoul is out of the play off is if they lose this and philly win the 2 next match they got
severe junco
flashy seoul
trim shadow
T H I C C
night tusk
I never saw highly lol
dapper lantern
marve1 looks better with glasses
proven saddle
WHERE'S jehong sexy
proven saddle
hammond goats?
night tusk
elsa is so flexible
dapper lantern
I love the hunters
tawny sigil
you know you fucked up when rein is swinging his hammer in your backline uncontested
night tusk
night tusk
c9 ?
tawny sigil
SHEE NAN
severe junco
the seoul dynasty cosplayer cam lol
night tusk
severe junco
wtf marve1
night tusk
lmao seoul is my favorite team but somehow im rooting for hunters
well its a win win than xd
tawny sigil
bird hunting season is ON
clear crane
ahhh fleta widow is great
dapper lantern
gods liked my tweet, the cycle is complete
tawny sigil
amen
severe junco
YXL widow vs Fleta Widows
tawny sigil
ameng* 
severe junco
who wins?
tawny sigil
rocket to the face
tawny sigil
brig + mercy on point... HAVE FUN KILLING THAT
tawny sigil
never forget the prophecy guys
severe junco
alright, 1-0 who knows how the rest of this will go
night tusk
tiger wins from panda's?
tawny sigil
pandas are like weak bears
from eating only bamboo
bears suposed to eat everything, not just leafs
proven saddle
i bet is easier to eat raw meat than bamboo, so pandas > tigers
dapper lantern
we win these
supple prism
south brook
Oh no
supple prism
Surefour
proven saddle
look at this dude
worn hornet
wait that's Surefour?
worn hornet
that seems to support my theory that dudes need some sort of beard in order to rock long hair
severe junco
"you did it reddit" lmao
worn hornet
were these two among the group that Blizz poached from Riot for OWL?
tawny sigil
no
night tusk
monte doa
tawny sigil
dont think so that was monte and doa
night tusk
but monte doa are freelancers from riot
than monte was not allowed to be a coach or something
tawny sigil
"you're not allowed to come back to this job we didn't pay you for!"
night tusk
its worth watching
severe junco
ameng's fuckin gone
tawny sigil
SHEE NAN!
worn hornet
I wonder how much Toyota's paying as a principal sponsor
severe junco
seoul just wins
dapper lantern
goddamn it
severe junco
lmao how much of a timebank
tawny sigil
Hey dont you diss mah boiz, the dynasties
+1min
they just watched it happen
voluntary
worn hornet
I swear all these 2cp maps are either 2-1 or 7-6
night tusk
people rather watch this than lock 2-2-2...
dapper lantern
ameng just swings, I love it
night tusk
what was his main before hammond came out? xd
tawny sigil
he had no idea what overwatch was, he was speed running Super Monkey ball
night tusk
xd
tawny sigil
damn
proven saddle
Wow, jinmu is being so agrssive as phara
visual glen
holy
tawny sigil
mah boy, ricegum!
proven saddle
damn JINMU
dapper lantern
I’m
tawny sigil
i mean jinmu
severe junco
chengdu just saved it
visual glen
CCWatch
proven saddle
classic ol' mei
tawny sigil
mei mei
minor flame
lmao
minor flame
ARE YOU KIDDING ME
visual glen
how
dapper lantern
unreal
dapper lantern
wtf was that audio
severe junco
if seoul get this
tawny sigil
Replay messing with ingame music
proven saddle
SURPRIIIIIIISE
proven saddle
6CP
severe junco
we got so close to a possible 8 cp
tawny sigil
we got 8cp before
severe junco
but 6 CP will do
proven saddle
it's kinda weird seeing someone killing among using wrecking ball
supple prism
Ameng
raw ermine
make the entire match 20 CP
minor flame
RECORD BROKEN
dapper lantern
I love how they’re like “there’s no way”
minor flame
DRAWIS TIME
tawny sigil
pepega emp incoming!
dapper lantern
but they just capped so
raw ermine
oh shit
dapper lantern
🤔
tawny sigil
DRAW
severe junco
DRAW
minor flame
lol
raw ermine
lmfao
minor flame
this has been so close
raw ermine
Glad I came
dapper lantern
so loud, jesus
severe junco
10 points on paris fuck this map lmao
proven saddle
PFFF
raw ermine
fuck 2 cp
minor flame
im kinda sad they didnt play reppin 82 as soon as the draw showed up :/
proven saddle
all that effort for a draw
dapper lantern
I was looking for it lmao
visual glen
Fucking 2CP
dapper lantern
someone loves reppin 82 in the sound department
severe junco
6 CP
proven saddle
my man
severe junco
if chengdu don't win the next game, seoul win
trim shadow
Chengdu will bounce back
tawny sigil
No win, no lose just draw
severe junco
halftime pogger
raw ermine
they don't need fissure
visual glen
F I 🐍 🐍 U R E
proven saddle
they are talking like if fissure hasn't been in 2 teams before
dapper lantern
fuck this fucking ad
proven saddle
SHIELDS UP 👏 👏
proven saddle
why do they always have to use the "away skin" ?
even if the colors aren't similars?
idk like Houston vs Spark, spark will play in white instead in pink
i understand that match like dallas vs NYXL can be dificult to watch, but cmon
michell 200iq grav
visual glen
This is fun to watch 
proven saddle
sombra goats is worst than dva goats, change my mind
proven saddle
the mods
proven saddle
idk about other sports, but at least in football as long as the uniforms look different enough
severe junco
WHAT
minor flame
??????? WHAT
severe junco
THE SEOUL SAVE
proven saddle
AMENG NO
trim shadow
oh ameng
tawny sigil
severe junco
SEOUL WIN THE SERIES
trim shadow
ameng that is not the sauce
tawny sigil
that needs to be an emote so i can use it whenever the team i want to win, wins
trim shadow
ameng saw red in his eyes
severe junco
this gifting subs ad angers me
tawny sigil
adblock mah friend
trim shadow
welp chengdu is boomed
tawny sigil
well ill see you guys next week on saturday, much earlier time then usual
trim shadow
basically on my home time zone
dapper lantern
babybay is going to get fined, holy shit lmao
raw ermine
why?
tawny sigil
what did he tweet about bren?
dapper lantern
just joking about that
but Malik called him during the postshow and Bren put him on speakerphone to talk about the widow 1v1
And he said “oh please, you ain’t shit” live on the broadcast lmao
upper niche
Hah. So I was away for this week, but it looks like the Atlanta weekend is going to be nearly completely irrelvant to the stage standings and qualification for the stage finals... pretty much only Philly and Shanghai are affected by it
tawny sigil
only matter for shanghai
upper niche
Yeah Philly need a pretty extroadinary result with Shanghai also having a pretty bad loss in their other game for Philly to take it.
tawny sigil
if shanghai 4-0 guangzhou, philly is out no matter what
else it will depend how well philly does against shanghai
upper niche
Have Shanghai played H2H before?
tawny sigil
yea that was their last fight
they fight twice in a row
was not really close
wait what is h2h
upper niche
huh? Philly played Boston and Shanghai play GZC
Head to Head. But I just realised it doesn't matter - the head-to-head countback would be that game.
dapper lantern
head to head
tawny sigil
oh nvm
upper niche
Unless they've played before, in which case it would be the sum of those two games map dfff if Shanghai won.
tawny sigil
well they will have a h2h next week
upper niche
Yes
But because it uses series h2h record if they've already played before it could make it more confusing 😄
tawny sigil
i guess they would need 4-0 ghz and lose 0-4 to philly for that to matter
upper niche
Sadly the website doesn't have a simple match history page for any team
upper niche
Pretty much for every map SHD take off Philly, PHI need to do two better in map diff in their other game.
wait no even that doesnt work
tawny sigil
its way more likely for shanghai to get in
upper niche
yeah fuckit, PHI need to 4-0 SHD or it's just too hard 😛
tawny sigil
but we've seen this kind of unlikely scenario happen so often
upper niche
oh wow, we are highly likely to see VAL vs VAN again in round 1 of the stage 3 play offs 😄
upper niche
In fact the only way that doesn't happen is if SHD drop a game or NYE drop a game
tawny sigil
if they only win 4-0 form this point on they cant even retain that position still
upper niche
@tawny sigil The ranking on the website are flat out wrong. It doesn't match the rules.
tawny sigil
they will most likely be under valiant when everything is done
upper niche
They do some magic with their sort order that accounts for unplayed games, cos you might have say one team having played 7 and another 4... so it sorts on, from memory, losses, not wins.
SHD will only be there if they lose a game.
Give this a go, btw: http://owplayoffmachine.com/
tawny sigil
all the team under shanghai have done their 7 match
upper niche
tawny sigil
max shanghai can be is +13
upper niche
Like I said: It's wrong.
upper niche
It's American. They do stupid shit when it comes to sporting leagues and representing data.
upper niche
For example, "Highest seed plays lowest seed, blah blah, and then we re-seed". FFS, Just call them Elimination Finals like every other country would.
I was happy to see LAV beat LDN, even though I don't dislike LDN.
tawny sigil
i dont think shanghai can beat shock
upper niche
Did you think CDH could beat shock? 😄
supple prism
shaya?
supple prism
upper niche
We we know what the maps for Stage 4 will be yet?
trim shadow
that usually doesnt come out till like a week after stage 3 finals
tawny sigil
we need route 66
karmic grotto
Someone had something interesting
Having 32 teams
Of overwatch
Each city based
I see potential in that
tawny sigil
the day they start having simultaneous broadcast is when ill probably stop watching
32 team makes that kinda innevitable
its all about watching them upsets live, or seeing teams suddenly on the rise or clinching it close
and being told "watch this match, it was great" kind gives it away
if i miss a match, i only watch the vod if i dont know who won
lime owl
SHOCK THE SYSTEM!
tawny sigil
Shock will go back to irrelevancy once brig is out
gaunt acorn
weird take
tawny sigil
brig was carrying gold players to master, now she's carrying gold team to 1m dollar
gaunt acorn
have you looked at the shock roster in the past year
i think they can handle themselves in a dps meta
tawny sigil
have you seen sinatraa's pepega emp
gaunt acorn
striker? architect?
tawny sigil
we dont even know if they synergise well with the rest of the team, they never play
gaunt acorn
because it's been a goats meta
tawny sigil
its one thing to say you have good players, they might not fit well with the rest
is striker korean?
gaunt acorn
it's one thing to say a meta shift might (temporarily?) weaken the shock, it's another thing to say they're a gold team being carried by brig
striker is korean
one of the best dps of season 1
lime owl
I'm waiting for eSports to create a Call of Duty League...
gaunt acorn
they already did that
tawny sigil
who else is korean in shock
lime owl
Really?
balmy wolf
Expect OWL is a money maker compared to COD rn
gaunt acorn
what are you talking about, dude
balmy wolf
i don't expect cod to go big esports
tawny sigil
they release new game too often for that to work
tawny sigil
its growing
some journalist are claiming there is a bubble about to burst though
not sure how much water that holds
doesn't help that the people running the analitics own the league which apparently in real sports is a no go
karmic grotto
Minority having the loudest voice
echo quest
@tawny sigil are you trolling about shock lmao? They have architect,rascal and Striker for dps
empty pebble
"owl is like down 50% yearly revenue from its released year" source? @tawny sigil
tawny sigil
i said OWL, i meant OW
not trolling, doesnt matter how good of a line up you got, if they dont play together, then they are an unproven team, that's just the reality of it.
you dont know if striker likes the others
tawny sigil
you seriously need source to know OW is not making that much money anymore?
empty pebble
But you can't just jump to conclusions about the numbers
tawny sigil
im not
empty pebble
Without evidence, that is
tawny sigil
it was in the investor report or something of the sort
empty pebble
Yes it would make sense for revenue to go down
tawny sigil
it was down like 15% on the first year and 30%+the 15% on the second year
empty pebble
But you said OWL revenue
empty pebble
Oh
tawny sigil
no idea if that % includes owl in that aswell
tawny sigil
the entirety of activision was rellying on OW to make money for the last 2 years
empty pebble
Mhmm
tawny sigil
and apparently its not doing so well for that, but they have COD and reticles now
tawny sigil
yeah cause that trailer impresed people, but its a single player focused game apparently
those dont bring money
not the type of money investors want at least
tawny sigil
wish you could throw orbs now eh?!
little silo
just melee it
tawny sigil
🐜 
sterile fox
remember some season 1 playoffs when philly pulled out this guy for the first time in owl
snillo
and he was a fucking monster
silent cliff
then he got relegated to contenders lmfao
echo quest
Bruh what
Snillo played a lot before the season playoffs
He was regularly in during stage 3
pearl stratus
He got relegated, at the time, because he could literally only play Tracer and a very mediocre Sombra.
trim shadow
Snillo for owl season 5
balmy wolf
Sugarfree for season 6
harsh sun
do you think if role lock is enforced pine will play more again
little silo
no
well yes he might not be benched all the time
But Nenne is insane at multiple hitscans and doesnt have a risky playstyle like Pine does
pearl stratus
They don't play him now and we see variants of the comp that will exist if they 2/2/2 role lock.
So no.
Double sniper dps using an Orissa. we just have a third dps at the moment.
queen drift
Nenne > Pine widow
trim shadow
inb4 pavane suprises everyone
pearl stratus
Pine atm is a jersey seller. He realistically had two huge pop off maps (not even full games, just the maps for Ilios and Ruins) and has had people claiming he's the next jesus since Season 1.
His PR presence is massive.
Meanwhile I remember Pine getting pushed off of Widow when playing against Diya and Shanghai in Season 1.
Because Diya ran a clinic on him on Route 66.
queen drift
they had s b b run widow over pine for like 2 stages
oak bloom
pine's game sense is pretty trash, he is all mechanics
inland pawn
https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/1145750245273296897 Avastcon is happening
Twitter
swift moth
What is avastcon
little silo
an exlusive esports event for the chads of this world
worn falcon
Meanwhile SBB :(
supple prism
Hey, if Pine brings in more than he costs, why get rid of him.
If I had the chance to do OWL, I would do only one season at most then just invest that money and then maybe stream.
fresh epoch
@worn falcon what is with sbb? he's throwing? 
worn falcon
He is benched because the others are better :(
fresh epoch
i mean, maybe? kinda sad hes on my fav team and one of my fav players but his sombra is really weird last game... xD if you even mean that..
worn falcon
Yeah, his sombra and his Brig
pearl stratus
I mean he has played every game this stage so far.
Also he has his own shoes.
Do you have your own shoes?
echo quest
Damn they nice
trim shadow
All of nyxl has there own shoes apperantly
So its fair to say nyxl are celebrities
All of them
outer sluice
NYXL is getting whooped in stage playoffs
balmy wolf
He won’t
Truth be told I think they’re the weakest team in the playoffs due to SBB sombra
tawny sigil
i think we will be surprised who's in the stage final
tawny sigil
who think val can defeat van again?
crimson ginkgo
not me
echo quest
Nah
little silo
not really
pearl stratus
Depends which Vancouver.
If they default back to the Bumper Jjanu SMS Haksal Twilight Slime roster?
Yes.
If they keep the last played Stitch roster, it'll be a fight.
The former roster has no offensive potential outside of a 3:3.
pearl stratus
Oh hey, Mistakes is back
supple prism
ah, Defiants academy team
echo quest
Performing the way he did in the situation he was put in was insane
limber pine
If Tracer becomes meta again, I'd totatally sign Mistakes.
His Sombra's not bad either
trim shadow
I wondern if he plans on returning to owl
espn power rankings are a jokeee..
my guy didnt put san fran in top 5
echo fog
sullen berry
@trim shadow bless Mr. Mistakes
Must have given up on WoW+classic to be penniless in russia
balmy wolf
It's almost as if having a bunch of koreans most people don't know about won't win people over
The same thing with Spark but the difference is, they have a great color scheme and guxue is great
limber pine
I mean
Neko Envy Asher were well known
Ivy Stellar and Yakpung were all from the same team
They could have done worse
But stellar retiring hit them hard
And im37 was a complete swing and miss
In this meta
Anyway
balmy wolf
Neko and Envy I think I remember hearing about but the other 4 and I'm 37 as well as contenders players, I think I can say that a majority of the OWL fan base doesn't care about them and I only say that because of the OWL viewership vs like contenders viewership
severe junco
honestly, we're not a GOATs team
i think that's why we started to dip tbh
factored in with a language barrier
limber pine
Yeah they’ve looked better with Logix and Mangachu
Logix should have never stayed in Contenders for as long as he did
severe junco
Gods and Sharyk were good, but we needed less of a language barrier problem
with Logix and Mangachu, now it's about overcoming the language barrier and we can perhaps do better in stage 4
since now it's what, 4 western 2 korean?
worn falcon
Mistakes to Montreal?
balmy wolf
I mean the roster on paper looks decent, but with all these new players coming, synergy is non existent
severe junco
yeah
balmy wolf
tho they will do better next stage for sure
severe junco
but, given that we've got them at the end of this stage
we should look better next stage
balmy wolf
the dps rotation is gonna be interesting
severe junco
since, yesterday against the outlaws we looked pretty good
balmy wolf
since ivy and mangachu are both projectile players
logix is just a hitscan god so no worries in that area
severe junco
we have ivy, im37, logix and mangachu who're all dps players
aid and neko should have support or lock
limber pine
Im37 will not play again
severe junco
Gods, Sharyk and Yakpung can all rotate on Tank
even if im37 never plays again, we've still got 3 really strong dps players
2/2/2 we're pretty relaxed for
balmy wolf
im37 is basically a backup player now
severe junco
we're looking better than before
and our showing against outlaws shows that we're not a pepega level team anymore, we're like a tier above, albeit at the bottom of that pool
with some stronger synergy, perhaps we'll do better
here's hoping at least
balmy wolf
uhhhh, only on 2 maps tho
they changed their comp so fast that their always at a ult disadvantage
and sometimes they dont even pick the right comp at all
the potential is there but it needs time
trim shadow
balmy wolf
atl isn't playing NY at the homestand at all
trim shadow
honestly bishop should rotate his dps
severe junco
defiant
trim shadow
37 rotting on the bench is gonna kill his career
severe junco
referring to defiant here
balmy wolf
why would play im37 in the 1st place? Just release and gonna another dps
also the LA homestand is gonna be so hype, the matches are all top teams
severe junco
we might beat the reign tho
trim shadow
37 is on the same level as logix and mangachu..probably not a better widow then logix tho
and he doesnt play pharah im sure
balmy wolf
mechanically yes, but experience and gamesense, no
remember the dude only played 1 contenders game and got poached afterwards
trim shadow
jjonak was the same way...pulled from the ladder...i honestly dont think bishop has what it takes to intergrate
cause most of there pick ups were dps this year
balmy wolf
jjonak is an expection because he literally had like 5 alts account in the top 10 in KR
im37 was picked because he's korean, cheap since he was on second wind which was an unsigned org, was already in the US
severe junco
"hey where's jjonak in top 10?"
"1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th"
balmy wolf
yes
trim shadow
who wouldnt want someone shot calling with that skill
severe junco
the team was doing all korean at the time iirc
trim shadow
im still laughing at him stealing dannys mic
severe junco
i've been watching the Titans v NYXL stage 2 playoffs and there's somthing i noticed about the Titans
They're extremely trusting of each other
like, Bumper'll just start swinging knowing he's safe
balmy wolf
Jayne brought that up
Also once you play 60 games with eachother as well as run the same comp that many times at near professional scenes
you kinda do trust your team
until shit hits the fan when you're not fighting that same comp then you panic
Valiant game
severe junco
LAV v VT flashbacks
trim shadow
vancouver is litterally a whole roster whos been playing since apex
ofc bumper trust and depends on his team
unlike lets say pokpo and atlanta
balmy wolf
You can have a roster of great players but synergy takes time to build and adjust
it's why Fissure sucks balls. He literally has synergy with no one. Amazing skill but nothing there cause his entire thing literally demands players to cater to him instead of the good of the group
balmy wolf
Synergy and catering are two different things. Like I said before. Talented player, bad teammate. Him being on three different pro teams and notorious for being an asshole do not excuse any "Potential" he may have had. Simple as that
balmy wolf
Kaeore is correct
Think of Fissure vs Fusions
Fusions honestly isn't as mechanically talented as Fissure but the dude is just a genuinely wholesome guy
When he works with people, he listens and is patient and is just a fun guy to talk to
trim shadow
Thaz what we call resting bitch face
echo quest
@severe junco jjonak is the outlier. He was an absolute monster on the Korean ladder and had multiple accounts in top 10
His Ana was considered only second to jehong’s
balmy wolf
i still consider it below chipshajen
ornate cliff
am i the only one wondering why we still aren't seeing females in the OWL
gaunt acorn
i think the generally accepted answer is that there aren't any owl-ready female players in contenders atm
geguri was really an outlier
it would be nice to see more female players, but it will take time
there aren't many female pro players in general, at least comparatively
ornate cliff
true true
gaunt acorn
i think geguri has served as a good role model in that regard
supple prism
and they dont really even use Geguri
gaunt acorn
not in their current starting roster, no
but that doesn't mean she isn't owl-level anymore
pearl stratus
What I don't get is why people get on her being on the bench.
But can't keep people like Pine out of their mouths.
It's awkward cringe.
echo quest
Probably because they look at Pine’s highlights and think he is the Goat
silent cliff
what are some female players that can have owl potential?
been looking for some nice female streamers who aren't too egirl-ish or anything idk
hidden vault
Are you looking for potential female owl players or female streamer who plays overwatch?
balmy wolf
none
the only one that takes the game seriously enough to be in owl is already in owl
silent cliff
i'm finding more of the female players with owl potential
i mean, aren't there female players already in contenders
balmy wolf
theyre all staff/partnered streamers
all the female players that have owl potential are in owl
the rest dont play enough/take it seriously enough
noukky i guess did play but barely in the tier 3 scene, shes a damn good manager though
if by "owl potential" you mean in grandmaster your bar for owl potential is astonishingly low
silent cliff
"all" you mean geguri?
also no not really because low GM and high GM/t500 are vastly different groups
hidden vault
Wait so there isn't any female players that are playing in contenders right now?
balmy wolf
yes just geguri
iirc the only one stopped
and the rest are staff/streamers
also bronze is to 4300 as 4300 is to owl
hidden vault
Who was the only one?
hidden vault
Ty leggo
balmy wolf
cheers
echo quest
WGS’s roster isn’t that bad
I love watching Nai1st lmao. Always comes back as doomfist
FU won a 3v5 damn
minor fossil
philly fusion shld rlly pick up alarm from fusion uni
balmy wolf
Everything they do has to go through carpe apparently
Who is alarm and what does he play
little silo
the only reason why Alarm isnt a top tier Zen in the OWL rn is that hes underage
balmy wolf
Atm then it depends on how close carpe and boombox are then
echo quest
FU seems like they are not trying tho. After the two maps they steam rolled
echo quest
@balmy wolf Alarm and Carpe are good friends
Besides it doesn’t if Carpe doesn’t like its alarm
echo quest
Not really
balmy wolf
Carpe is the only reason why fraggi doesnt get to play
balmy wolf
I would argue he’s been decent and his world cup showing was pretty good
Yea but his rein is nutty
echo quest
Changsik Bernar and Alarm will all get moved up next season
Probably snillo and elk as well
Reverse sweep incoming?
WGs fighting
echo quest
GG FU were sandbagging.
pearl stratus
The entire FU roster will get moved up.
And they'll replace pretty much everyone but Carpe/EQO, who will go into a rotation with Na1st.
Snillo is the oddball out still.
But has preexisting synergy.
echo quest
Naist is underage
pearl stratus
Then Snillo. And they'll probably rebuild FU around Na1st as a captain
The big question is to you get rid of BOTH Sado and Fragi.
echo quest
I can’t tell if FU are actually struggling or not fully trying. They get taken to map 5 yet stomp WGS in three maps
WGS is a new team as wel
hidden vault
Inculding whoru?
pearl stratus
If I was FU I'd sell WhoRu to a different team for $$$$$$$.
Gen G might be willing to pay for him to get him on Seoul.
echo quest
He’s on loan to the sky foxes
pearl stratus
Yeah, I'm talking about when he hits 18.
hidden vault
I wonder how does loan work
Weekly rental?
Do you think we will get to see that on overwatch league say someone gets sick and they loan someone from another team
Say the rest of the team are unable to play his role
Ie mano as main tank for nyxl
Loan janus from Washington?
hidden vault
And no conflict of interest when you loan whoru to meta athena?
balmy wolf
No idea how it works to contenders cause isn’t contenders about showing off individual skill to get you to OWL
balmy wolf
hm?
balmy wolf
iostux academy has been live for like 2 weeks
a lot of our players are going for world cup
karmic grotto
Are they open division team?
balmy wolf
Mystiic (Canada), SamuraD (Japan), HearThBeat (Italy), Reptile (Mexico), Blu and myself (India), ioStux (Germany)
karmic grotto
5 players so far?
balmy wolf
We have them, but they're not on OWWC
we're still trialling flex support, our flex support's (reptile) owwc scrims conflict in timing
MT: SamuraiD
OT: Mystiic
Hitscan: Lui
Flex DPS: HearThBeat
MS: Kombo
FS: Trialling
Lui has taken a long time off of OW but >1.5 years ago he was an apex contenders lev competitor
karmic grotto
balmy wolf
The goal isn't to win OD tbh
if we lose i dont really mind
The goal is for every single player we have to eventually make it to Academy/OWL
karmic grotto
Development?
That's important
You can compare it to players that want to have a certain SR but not having the mindset of it
Like, some want to be GM but not learn what GM is
balmy wolf
The team is run literally exactly the same as most Academy teams so that players have a good reference to go off of in terms of "this is how the job will be"
So if it's something that turns out to be what they don't want to do, we'd be happy with them leaving as it means they've figured out early without spending a lot of time
karmic grotto
You sure know how many players couldn't stay in Contenders, don't you
Being in a pro team is the same as any business in real life
balmy wolf
It's more so the professionality
There's so many tier 3 players that have twitter pages that literally look like a child learning new curse words
pearl stratus
Growing out of it isn't always a solution though because "He was young" doesn't always work when the pros are 18 years old.
We've denied a LOT of people employment based off their facebook/twitter/insta coming out of college.
balmy wolf
Real talk
Cause i always wondered this
What if they don’t have social media? Or like dont really post anything
pearl stratus
Then that's fine.
Provided you're not applying as like..
A social media manager.
If you have social media I can't find, you're golden. Your stuff should be private.
But if you're applying for a job and I find your social media and its you doing a keg stand? You're not getting the second interview.
balmy wolf
Yea cause in other fields I always wondered cause Social media seemed too much of a hassle to do when all i wanna do is check up on other people than like saying stuff
pearl stratus
The problem isn't using social media, tbh.
It's not knowing to differentiate between a private and personal one.
Same with stupid crap like emails.
I've had people apply for jobs with their like.. 1992 "I was 12" email address, BigdonglongxX or something.
If you're willing to submit that on a professional resume, I'm not willing to take a chance on you.
Because you've already told me you're an idiot.
balmy wolf
So some common sense stuff
I just wanted to know like the social media thing because I have a very distinct lack of one
pearl stratus
Basically, just be professional even if its not the most professional place.
And yeah if you don't have a social media presence and its not a job about social media I don't care.
balmy wolf
Like I try actively avoid using it or whatever besides reading and liking posts from people cause that is the most I do on twitter and that is my only thing
Cool
There were a ton of accusations of a team called BarahNOW using cheats in a $5k tournament, and basically we judged a lot of potential candidates using how they reacted to it
If they circle jerked it and dmd the team staff (like a lot did)
we automatically turned down any offers we had with them