esports-discussion

[dapper lantern]

Some of these matches are totally winnable but damn, things just don’t click. And you get a match like this.

[balmy wolf]

jjanu's zarya is decent but cant compare to SMS

[pearl stratus]

Shock are the big one -

Their Sombra and Zarya are the same person and Choi doesn't flex to either like they need.

So if they play Sombra they have no damage because they keep the D'va.

If they play 3:3 they can't deal with Sombra.

[proven saddle]

shock still have architect waiting

[balmy wolf]

at this point i sub out choi for any of their dps

[pearl stratus]

The problem is Choi though.

They need the 3-3 to fall back on though

Their Baptiste style is better than Sombra goats on the right maps.

[proven saddle]

i like more the NYXL strat where you flex Meko and SBB

[dapper lantern]

Choihyobin can’t play anything else?

[pearl stratus]

Not that we've ever seen.

[dapper lantern]

unfortunate

That’s not good

[pearl stratus]

I'm sure Crusty has him grinding either Zarya or Sombra.

So its a temporary problem.

But its the reason why Chengdu won.

Sombra Goats with D'va instead of Zarya just doesn't do damage.

[proven saddle]

haksal it's such a good baptiste

rascal, goddamn names

[pearl stratus]

Haksal or Rascal?

Kk

Was confused, didn't remember Haksal ever playing it lol

[dapper lantern]

I would rather flex him onto Sombra. Sinatraa is an excellent Zarya. I wouldn’t want to take him off of that.

[pearl stratus]

I agree.

Choi has three options honestly.

Brig, Zarya or Sombra.

Because Rascal is an excellent Sombra too.

[balmy wolf]

what about nevix? dude has a big ass hero pool

[dapper lantern]

^

Rascal is also really good.

[pearl stratus]

Nevix is clutch, but in terms of raw D'va Choi outclasses him greatly.

[proven saddle]

@pearl stratus my bad, i don't why some players have such a similar name

[balmy wolf]

i mean I rather do what LA are doing and just go dvaless

[proven saddle]

cough gods cough godsb cough

[pearl stratus]

Choi has backpacked and clutched so many fights by himself.

The thing is LA does that because their 3:3 is really really really really really bad.

They don't have anything to lose by not having it as an option.

Shock play a unique goats in their Baptiste, and just play it well.

And Goats is still better than Sombra goats on some maps

[balmy wolf]

then choi better get his grind going then

[dapper lantern]

Rascal’s Baptiste is insane

[proven saddle]

yeah in dorado he carried

[dapper lantern]

it makes no sense how quickly he gets amp matrix

[pearl stratus]

He wipes out teams by himself.

On Baptiste.

It's just not right

[balmy wolf]

because thats the only real thing holding them back beside their questionable ult usage

[proven saddle]

he get his ult so fast anyway

[pearl stratus]

If you notice he doesn't use Matrix for anyone but himself.

It's how they play it.

And they use him almost like a widow.

[balmy wolf]

actually makes sense

[pearl stratus]

"Use amp, get picks. We win the fight"

[balmy wolf]

burst down 1 hero

and maybe get some heals in

but doing more damage is better

[dapper lantern]

I tried playing him but

[pearl stratus]

I'm oddly good at him, but I think its because I spent years in TF2 playing demoman.

[proven saddle]

i just can't play bapstiste

[pearl stratus]

So the right click is super natural feeling.

[dapper lantern]

It makes no sense to me so I don’t do it. I also feel like I take too long to charge matrix.

So I leave that to everyone else.

[balmy wolf]

would bap be consider off support or main support?

[proven saddle]

the matrix charges fairly fast

[pearl stratus]

It's hard to tell.

[proven saddle]

main support

[pearl stratus]

We don't see enough of him.

I personally find him a main.

[balmy wolf]

probs depends on the comp

[pearl stratus]

He just vomits healing

[dapper lantern]

I would throw my hat in and say it depends

[pearl stratus]

But he has a unique kit, so he doesn't suffer from double main etc.

So it also doesn't really.. matter?

[proven saddle]

at least that's what jeff kapplan said with Stylosa

[pearl stratus]

The only combo I don't love is Mercy + Baptiste because Bap doesn't have enough self healing

[dapper lantern]

If I’m the one playing him, he’s an off healer as in I’m probably switching the fuck off

and playing someone I know how to

[proven saddle]

i like Zen+ ana even if it's super diveable

[pearl stratus]

I prefer Ana Lucio, just because Lucio can peel for the Ana.

[proven saddle]

i also like lucio + moira, that's so much healing

even if it really hasn't many utility

[dapper lantern]

I like Ana + Mercy. I’ll take anything that’s a support at this point though, it’s rough out here

[balmy wolf]

cant wait to see DF go 1-6 tomorrow

[proven saddle]

when you have zen + brig and you're the tank :c

[pearl stratus]

I really feel like Link and Jake kept grinding Tracer from S1

Because I remember their S1 tracer and it was oof.

Now they both play it respectably.

[balmy wolf]

oh because mendo wouldn't play?

[pearl stratus]

Went from 0 Tracers to 3.

[balmy wolf]

yea I really dont get why they didn't find a player who can play tracer

[proven saddle]

https://youtu.be/1YKr6hY6mDA?t=120

here if i was the rein i would be really terrified

[hidden vault]

The moment that everyone forget arhan is on houston 👀

[visual glen]

Who

[silent cliff]

ngl jake is a pretty good caster

[visual glen]

He is

Dogman is pretty good too

Both can transition to caster roles if they retire

[silent cliff]

oh yeah def

[karmic grotto]

Has a half dream, a screenshot capture

Or in this case a mental shot

Water swapped from brig to Genji... He was in Titans team

[tawny sigil]

did jeff talk in the end?

[proven saddle]

what? when

muga tease? 👀

[sweet scaffold]

I wondered if that did happen or not.

But I assume he was there just watching the match.

[tawny sigil]

yeah we got jebaited

!schedule

rip confirmed

[severe junco]

life's hard as a defiant fan

but hey

at least our roster is dope

[oak bloom]

yeah, you dont bring in mangachu to play brig lol

[severe junco]

i was supremely angry about that

you have a great 2/2/2 comp, just do the bandaid shit and do it

[swift moth]

Life is slightly easier as a gladiator fan until you realize the titans are standing between them in playoffs or not.

Worst part is no Paris

[dapper lantern]

how could you possibly get jebaited when there was no reason to believe he was there other than to just watch a match, you guys made up stuff about him announcing something lmao

[swift moth]

^

[gaunt acorn]

@dapper lantern because pretty much every time he's attended it's been to announce something

and we're literally a week (or less) away from a new hero reveal

plus role lock is slated to be added in ~1 month

so he's kind of overdue for an announcement

[severe junco]

also, can jeff buff the justice thanks

[swift moth]

How do you know we are a week away?

[little silo]

i still dont understand how the league chooses player of the match

[gaunt acorn]

@swift moth because we're 3 years into the lifespan of the game

we know the milestones they release each hero at, now

doomfist went onto PTR july 6th, 2017

wrecking ball went onto PTR june 28th, 2018

[severe junco]

so, season 2's tomorrow-ish

or like 2 days

so, depending on how this all rolls out, we'll probably get new hero and 2/2/2 lock

[karmic grotto]

Maybe today? Maybe tomorrow? Maybe Monday?

[echo quest]

It will be 100% on a Tuesday. They have been releasing major updates on Tuesday for the last 3 years

[gaunt acorn]

it has to go on ptr first

[hidden vault]

jeff: I'm sorry to inform that we do not have the resources to release a new hero

Hero 31 will be released during bizzcon instead

Soo

Why was he there?

[little silo]

at the blizzard arena?

can the guy not watch the esports of his game every once in a while

[silent cliff]

well maybe jeff just... wants to watch?

[hidden vault]

the world burn

[trim shadow]

Jeff looks like the kinda guy who doesnt much about sports and was probably there to observe were pros were doing

And maybe thinking about 222

I stopped watching that toronto game when i saw mangachu going into brig jail

Nice bishop you have a top 5 dps core but lets throw em in goats jail

[balmy wolf]

I hope he heard rumors that the meta was changing and was just here to check it out himself to determine if 2/2/2 is even necessary anymore

[trim shadow]

Gonna assume 222 has been in the works for months

Nothing pops up overnight

[little silo]

Top 5 dps core?

[trim shadow]

37 if he gets acclumated to pro life
Mangachu no explanation needed
Ivy

[balmy wolf]

It was also something they were super hard against doing since the beginning and the main reason why they were getting desperate was cause of the esports scene playing goats. But thats dying out a bit and the top two goats team were getting fucked so now you don’t have to implement it anymore

[little silo]

mangachu explanation needed

[trim shadow]

Ivy was probably in cause zarya

[little silo]

that man isnt a top 5 dps

[trim shadow]

But like

Your playing against decay?

And hes a good zarya

Soo?

The core not individuals

All 3

[little silo]

You mean the team has a top 5 dps line?

[trim shadow]

Like striker architecht and sinatraa

Babybay erster

shadowburn soon

Danye is overrrated

[balmy wolf]

Striker is overrated and his hero pool is limited. I doubt we see him

[little silo]

are you listing your top 5 or what are you doing

[balmy wolf]

I think thats what he is doing

[little silo]

His top 5 has babybay and erster?

I can understand Erster but Babybay?

[trim shadow]

Striker is overrated LUL

[little silo]

Shadowburn Soon top 5 dps line LUL

[trim shadow]

No u doughnut im listing examples of dps duo

Everyone has opinions

[balmy wolf]

Philly fans gonna be excited to see carpe carry their team again instead of them just floundering

[little silo]

i wonder how much 2-2-2 would affect Chengdu

[balmy wolf]

dear outlaws

please bribe soon someone to get all your matches against justice

I mean their next match is TD

so 5-2 right there

meanwhile theres NY who is the ATL leader and the only ATL team in stage playoffs

[trim shadow]

Corey was litterally doing his best carpe impression last night

Its to bad his tank lines are bors

Bots*

[little silo]

Carpe is better than Corey on Zarya

[balmy wolf]

thats sad to think about

[trim shadow]

Atlantic division this year has been yikes

I hope corey got a back rub from all that carrying

[balmy wolf]

ive only ever been in a handful of WJ scrims and corey is the most motivated ive seen to play

[little silo]

i expected it to be Sleepy

[balmy wolf]

seems to be one of the more happier personalities in the league

[trim shadow]

Despite being 1-15 and probably dealing with a crowded coaching staff

[balmy wolf]

2-15

[trim shadow]

Like did washington not learn from shanghai when it comes to crowded coaching staffs

[balmy wolf]

do they have a crowded coaching staff?

theres a few people who genuinely just are nice people and motivate their team

[trim shadow]

There wizard

[balmy wolf]

like fusions, note, geguri, sbb, etc

[trim shadow]

And i think 4-5 coaches

[balmy wolf]

i called wizard ugly once by accident

there are 4 coaches

[little silo]

and how did that go

[balmy wolf]

he was super cool and laughed it off

[trim shadow]

Shanghai had 5 including head coach

[balmy wolf]

wizard is chill asf

[trim shadow]

Wizard needs to come up with the new meta

[little silo]

Sounds really good

[balmy wolf]

actually 4 coaches is pretty average

msot coaches are really nice actually

[silent cliff]

how did you go to washington scrims???

[little silo]

a good relationship with the players is important. But it needs to be clear that youre in charge

[balmy wolf]

oh i used to be in contenders as analyst until CC got picked up by grunto esports

[trim shadow]

I think dallas has..

Aero

[little silo]

Jayne

[trim shadow]

2 assistant coaches

[little silo]

tikatee

daemon

[trim shadow]

And the rest are positional coaches

[little silo]

and idk if there are more

[silent cliff]

oh shit really?

that's really cool

[trim shadow]

Washington has 1 head 4 assistant

[balmy wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493683362008137740/566593226086285323/unknown-7.png

it was a pretty fun discussion ngl

[trim shadow]

The only reason i like dallas is because they have structure

[balmy wolf]

@trim shadow only 4 coaches in total

also yes most teams generall have 4-5 coaches

1 head coach, 2-4 coaches covering each individual strength, and 1 assistant coach/analyst

[little silo]

How many does Seoul have?

[trim shadow]

But most teams have it structured

Analyst positional assistant and head

[little silo]

I dont think most of them have coaches just for positioning

[trim shadow]

Last i checked zayne was the support coach

[balmy wolf]

boston has a more analyst-geared approach with a lot of hard data and some teams like seoul dont care for analytics

and rusha is correct

[trim shadow]

Jayne*

[balmy wolf]

jayne is support coach

[little silo]

i think most teams have assistant coaches to take care of a certain role

[trim shadow]

So hes over closer unkoe harryhook

[balmy wolf]

or bitch work

dude getting a salaried position for bitch is fine

idk how jayne got a coaching position on DF

[trim shadow]

World cup

[balmy wolf]

not exactly

even before world cup

[little silo]

Popularity, connections etc

[trim shadow]

Jayne is also really in touch with the community

And coaches the community

So he has a resume

[balmy wolf]

basically during his original normal streamed vod reviews, taimou was the one who saw his analysis of a gm tracer scrim vod and recommended him to his staff

[trim shadow]

i remember that vod

[balmy wolf]

the one where he said to stop staring at the wall

yeah

[trim shadow]

That also got me to subscribe to jayne

[little silo]

wasnt that the passive Tracer with Diamond aim

[balmy wolf]

his aim was fine tbh

not excellent but not bad

[little silo]

But I think he was always scared to push in

[balmy wolf]

generality and technicalities aside my goal is still to be the highest ranking grad student manager in contenders

im only 4100 and there are managers at 4.3

i shall achieve my goal

[little silo]

In all contenders regions?

[balmy wolf]

NA east/west only

i ran into HuK in my games

hes usually t500 dva but now that goats is dead hes in masters :)

[little silo]

unlucky

[trim shadow]

Huk actually plays the game?

[balmy wolf]

ye

hes usually t500 but now is hardstuck masters

[silent cliff]

yikes

[balmy wolf]

its 100% personal opinion but i dont think huk has the mentality that a proper GM should have

i wont share who shares this opinion but its too..

its too trigger happy

[manic idol]

hello

[balmy wolf]

like it really seems like he makes decisions on a dime

sup my dude

like he tried out chipsa for owl lol

[little silo]

wait really

[trim shadow]

Its household knowledge huk is a shady Gm/coach whatever the fuck he is

Strike traded
Fusion failed to trade
all of old bosto

Boston*

[little silo]

chipsa could have made tryouts but he was too unlucky

[trim shadow]

^ nice meme

[little silo]

Those trades were for profit though

[trim shadow]

1-6 stage

[little silo]

Idk how much money they got for Striker and Gamsu but it cant have been low

[trim shadow]

Boston last year stage 3 was 10-0? I think

Gamsu probably got a fat contract

[balmy wolf]

the only perfect stage last yr

[trim shadow]

From shanghai considering shanghai has money

[little silo]

Gamsu got traded like one day before the League started

But he must have a pretty good salary

[trim shadow]

Geguris bench salary must be nice as well

[balmy wolf]

i wont say shady

[little silo]

shes there to sell jerseys and for social media

[balmy wolf]

just.. immature

[trim shadow]

I was gonna meme and say make fran owl and please the feminist full circle

But most female owl strimmers dont want pro life

[balmy wolf]

Course not

They get discriminated hard and know theyre just there for eye candy

[trim shadow]

They either get carried make to many mistakes or dont want 50 grand guranteed

Geguri was getting play time tho?

Shanghai just decide eh goats is trash

And geguri cant run sombra like dding can

So wheres the discrimination?

[balmy wolf]

That was before gamsu got fully integrated. And shanghai was ass season 1 due to a lot of issues that I blame on the support line

And they made basically a complete roster make over

[trim shadow]

Shanghai was ass inside and out last year

Org coaches players

Outside of like there tank

Netease and company have cleaned up

so there not ass

[balmy wolf]

Streaming also makes you more money supposedly if you’re big. Like I’m sure Dafran and Seagull made way more money streaming than actually playing

[trim shadow]

Household knowledge

Donations vs salary

[balmy wolf]

Seagull just likes being pro in many games

[trim shadow]

And however twitch pays strimmer

[balmy wolf]

Tho I believe seagull will stay streamer for a long time

[trim shadow]

He will

[balmy wolf]

Being pro for 4 games is quite tiring

Just chill and make that big streamer money

[trim shadow]

Being a pro gamer is 100% mental

Like

Any other sport

If ur not strung in the head you cant last 28 games of overwatch

[balmy wolf]

Ryujehong i admire the most in that regard. Dude is an actual tiger just pushing forward to try and last as long as possible

[trim shadow]

Let alone 40 games

[balmy wolf]

ok so shanghai season 1 imo was at the fault of the tanks

the main tank being just.. not synchronized

and a language barrier for geguri

[trim shadow]

Meta as well

[balmy wolf]

i personally played ranked against them and genuinely genuinely the hardest owl dps to actjally fuckin deal with

[silent cliff]

remember when s1 dragon's strategy was "just pocket undead 4head"

gotta feel bad for roshan tho, not getting the support he needs

[balmy wolf]

the tanks were at a disconnect with the rest of the team in terms of aggression, which led to a lot of pressure lacking

[trim shadow]

Undead the wild dick

[balmy wolf]

oh yeah

[trim shadow]

And i forgot the other guy

[balmy wolf]

good ol undead

[trim shadow]

He was a coach for a brief stint btw

Retired now

I think

All i remember from s1 shanghai was geguri undead and netease not knowing how to manage

[little silo]

I just remember people memeing Freefeel to death

[pearl stratus]

U4 Coached too retro, he went with an early contender style called 'Rabid dog' which was an overextension of the main tank in order to 'distract' the other team.

You were sacrificing the tank every engage basically.

In order to get kills from your DPS.

It just didn't work against OWL players.

Always made Roshan look so bad too

[silent cliff]

poor roshan tho

and i don't remember undead being consistently good

[trim shadow]

He wasnt

But had potential

[silent cliff]

played with some dude named "Chadillac"

idk why but i love that name

[echo quest]

Undead wasn’t good. He only played widow and Mcree. Diya played both those heroes better and was forced to flex on other heroes

[karmic grotto]

I don't wanna say it, but I'm going to. I haven't personally experienced OWL completely in season 1, only time was when I just bought the game and heard about it and watched Fusion vs Spitfire finale. The bar in OWL season 2 has been put higher than it was in season 1

[trim shadow]

I stopped watching after stage 1

I only watched like stage 1

Stage finals

Grand finals

The 8 team format wasnt pleasing to me

Even tho owl itself was a smart move

[pearl stratus]

Btw in case anyone missed this gem from last night

https://clips.twitch.tv/AbnegateBlitheKittenFutureMan

Corey could play his mind out on Widow.

He'll never live this down though

[trim shadow]

Corey nooo

[pearl stratus]

Also if people didn't hear.

Logix was supposed to start.

But Air Canada deep dicked him

And his flight got delayed from 7 -> 8 -> 9 -> 10 -> 12 -> 2 -> 3:45.

And he landed in LA at 5:30, after the game started.

[trim shadow]

So mangachu was a accident

Or he was suppose to start over ivy

[karmic grotto]

air canada be like

[manic idol]

I am looking for a french team

[sullen berry]

that was

something out of dps quickplay

[trim shadow]

[dapper lantern]

that Corey clip, oh my god

[copper solstice]

that is a gold doomfist plays right there

[pearl stratus]

It erases all his good widow play from last night instantly.

I forgot about every headshot

[karmic grotto]

Will Mayhem start today with their new 3 signings?

[umbral bone]

Do you get leauge tokens for rewatching?

[trim shadow]

@karmic grotto maybe

From the article its up to the coaches

By now they should be in the us so

They got signed last week

Well announced

[umbral bone]

aaah do you get league tokens for rewatching??

[trim shadow]

No

[umbral bone]

oof

even in the official rewatch?

[echo quest]

Nope

[tropic herald]

I bet the only close match today is going to be Boston and Philly

[trim shadow]

Maybe

[balmy wolf]

Meh

Philly can play dps again so they’ll probs wipe put boston assuming they’re not gonna go goats

[karmic grotto]

Or Boston wipes with blasé doomfist

[trim shadow]

^

[balmy wolf]

Blasé doomfist < Carpe Widow

[echo quest]

Mano is my mvp

[tropic herald]

Mano deserves it for sure

[echo quest]

Best main tank in owl

[tropic herald]

Agreed

Super has only proven himself to be good in one meta

and Bumper is Bumpe

[karmic grotto]

Mano is the best main tank of OWL

[karmic grotto]

I'm salty

That Mano wasn't chosen as main tank for Korea

Also, Carpe's Zarya as shown in Fusion isn't great, Carpe played Zarya in World cup

How tf did SK even managed to win?

Was it excellent coaching?

[hidden vault]

It's cause the rest of the teams sucked more

[balmy wolf]

They were close to losing against Finland

but they pulled back a miracle play

And I'm pretty sure most of the meta at the time most teams didn't know how to play it well

[little silo]

They were a lot better at Blizzcon

[echo quest]

@karmic grotto they didnt have trials for the roster. Fate was the best main tank in stage 4. so it made sense picking him.

[karmic grotto]

And now Fate got traded to some low tier pepega team

who soon will not be pepega

[north tendon]

https://www.change.org/p/blizzard-mangachu-and-dafran-torb-hammer-1v1-at-the-atlanta-home-stand

lets get it

[dreamy cave]

did the matches start yet?

nvm

[north tendon]

in 20 mins

[dreamy cave]

all 4 matches seem interesting

[dapper lantern]

😦

this sbb segment

[dreamy cave]

my guy sbb is going to make me cry

[dapper lantern]

that was a rollercoaster

[dreamy cave]

u think hes going to play tracer this match?

[dapper lantern]

Maybe. DPS is coming back and it’s Dallas. No harm, no foul.

[dreamy cave]

it could be just for stalling the point if anything

btw, of the 3 matches from yesterday, which should i watch? i missed them.

[north tendon]

why is owl chat saying leaks

did they say something

[dapper lantern]

uh, you should watch none of them

they were all boring

[north tendon]

yeah agreed

[dreamy cave]

ill skim through the matches then

[north tendon]

watch shock vs chengdu if you havent

[dreamy cave]

i did

[north tendon]

aha nice

[dapper lantern]

fuck

I still haven’t

[tawny sigil]

only relevant match today is shanghai

maybe if florida wins agains spark

those are the 2 to look for today, even if dallas win it won't mean anything for the stage

[dapper lantern]

I almost started clapping but

[dreamy cave]

if mano gets mvp this time i want a boss ass rien skin cuz im a tank main

[dapper lantern]

Dallas is walking out first

[dreamy cave]

lol^

[dapper lantern]

also taimou is alive

[uneven wren]

oh is he in?

[dapper lantern]

That is such a bad picture

oh my god

[uneven wren]

for who

[dapper lantern]

Taimou

He has like a quadruple chin

[uneven wren]

i meant taimou is in for who

who's out

[dapper lantern]

AKM

[uneven wren]

i see

rip fuel cause zach

[dapper lantern]

ny looks so bored already

[tawny sigil]

80 degree cold im sure

[uneven wren]

dallas beating ny is gonna be a stretch

[dreamy cave]

yo that mans teeth..

[dapper lantern]

not with how they operate

[tawny sigil]

been watching taimou stream lately, and im not convince on his hitscan skills lately

[dapper lantern]

unless dallas suddenly decides teamwork is important

[opal spruce]

where has oge been

[dapper lantern]

tired

[uneven wren]

burned out

[dapper lantern]

^

[tawny sigil]

beem sufering from success, like everyone in Dallas

the dallas flu

that's what we shiould rename the team

they let them get that one

[dreamy cave]

what is this

[tawny sigil]

damn that rocket was almost straight on sbb

welcome to the gazebo zone

[dapper lantern]

Nenne.

[dreamy cave]

its okay

its not over

[tawny sigil]

watch me whip, now watch nenne grav the floor....

[opal spruce]

what if taimou is what theyve needed all along

[dreamy cave]

hes not using air pods, oh my god

[idle beacon]

val 4-0 vs london? 😄

this stage is full of surprises 😄

[dapper lantern]

well we get to watch this clip again

So that’s a good side of this

[idle beacon]

hellou kate

[trim shadow]

sbb story time

[dreamy cave]

the blue n red makes his skin look so pink

[idle beacon]

how is nyxl doing?

[trim shadow]

how many retirements were there last year

[idle beacon]

not as much as this year

[trim shadow]

so basically players loved dive altho it was toxic..compared to goats

[dreamy cave]

how was dive toxic?

[idle beacon]

ye

[trim shadow]

dont even get me started

[idle beacon]

what do you mean by that, rusha?

how was dive toxic?

[tawny sigil]

they forgot the small white text that says "Dramatization"

[dapper lantern]

I love him and I will watch that clip as many times as they want to show it

[idle beacon]

you love who?

sbb ?

[tawny sigil]

its a bit long, dont think they gonna play it that often

[idle beacon]

@dapper lantern

[trim shadow]

they wont but sbb is one of the most loved owl players

[dreamy cave]

GO JJ

[trim shadow]

note one of not the most loved

[dreamy cave]

i think trill has even less

[idle beacon]

oh wait

taimou back?

and who is trill ?

[dreamy cave]

see ^

hes not very important

[dapper lantern]

sorry, I’m back

[tawny sigil]

wtf was that video for if you're gonna hit EMPs like that

[dreamy cave]

mano has been getting picked alot this match

[idle beacon]

okmg

omg

turning stream back off

[opal spruce]

dallas not 0-4 pog

[idle beacon]

did he just say "saturday morning" ???

[tawny sigil]

it is

[jovial fiber]

WHAATATATATAT

[tawny sigil]

saturday noon

[dreamy cave]

its afternoon for me

[tawny sigil]

close enough

[dapper lantern]

it is for some people. it’s just barely afternoon in cali

[uneven wren]

it's high noon

[idle beacon]

whats the time difference between east and westcoast of the states?

[cedar drum]

Lol Taimou doing great except both him and SBB throwing these big dick single man EMPs to establish dominance.

[uneven wren]

well 23 mins past high noon

[cedar drum]

LUL

[dapper lantern]

There’s a 3 hour difference from east to west.

[jovial fiber]

Bhu tru

[dreamy cave]

mano has gonna do better tho

there killing him first sometimes

[cedar drum]

Mano seems like he needs a slap to be woken up.

[idle beacon]

so its around 10.20am where the games are?

[uneven wren]

ooh 1-0 dallas

i wanna see ny lose

[jovial fiber]

Fuck you

[uneven wren]

no it's 12:24 pm

[cedar drum]

@idle beacon It's always high noon where the games are going on.

[tawny sigil]

nenne 0 peeps grav, sbb 0 peeps emp

just perfect execution from nyxl

[cedar drum]

@tawny sigil Nenne got a 4 person grav

[jovial fiber]

This game is fucking rigged

[tawny sigil]

he also got a 0 one

[cedar drum]

SBB got a 4 man emp

[dreamy cave]

[uneven wren]

nenne gravs are back?

[tawny sigil]

he also got a 0 one

[cedar drum]

@tawny sigil Yeah but u r twisting reality to further your narrative

[tawny sigil]

0 emp are pretty bad

[jovial fiber]

Solo EMP Smile

[idle beacon]

so now, where i stopped hating nyxl, someone else is hating them? 😄

[cedar drum]

Timo also got a 1 man emp and a 2 man emp

[idle beacon]

lioran 😄

[tawny sigil]

for how huge the AOE is, 0 player emp are like the worse

[dapper lantern]

also yeah, Zen-Nakji has made me perform better

[idle beacon]

(i still hate jjonak alot)

[jovial fiber]

“Timo”

[dapper lantern]

call it a placebo lmao

[tawny sigil]

timo is his real name isn't it?

[uneven wren]

yxl had a 0 man emp 2 days ago

[cedar drum]

@jovial fiber That's his name. Shorter to type.

[jovial fiber]

k

[cedar drum]

Seagull calls him Timo a lot so it's kinda started to feel like his primary name over Taimou.

[dreamy cave]

THE POINT

[tawny sigil]

those are some sinatraa lvl emps

[jovial fiber]

unluckyyyyyy

[dreamy cave]

what in sam hell

[jovial fiber]

Sbb?

[dreamy cave]

like.

can we not

[inland pawn]

Zach should be traded to the mayhem dont @ me

[dreamy cave]

they still got a tick

[jovial fiber]

bruh

[tawny sigil]

thunder storm hopefully i dont lose power

[jovial fiber]

nyxl un lucky

[tawny sigil]

nyxl not adapting to the sombra meta quickly enough

[jovial fiber]

This is the fuel

Dallas

Fuel

[dapper lantern]

goddamn it, I’m arguing with my friend over cheesecake and nyxl is doing nyxl things in the meantime apparently

[tawny sigil]

your life is in shamble

[dreamy cave]

fuck mai

[dapper lantern]

he hasn’t even tasted it and he’s calling it nasty

[tawny sigil]

cause he's thinking of normal cheese+cake

[dapper lantern]

he is

And I’m telling him that’s not what it is

[jovial fiber]

Esports discussion

[tawny sigil]

tell him yogourt cake,, how bout that cause its the same thing

[opal spruce]

did you tell hime cream cheese

[inland pawn]

zach made a good play pogU

[dapper lantern]

What is there to talk about aside from nyxl losing this

I did. He doesn’t buy it lmao @opal spruce

[opal spruce]

you need a new friend

[tawny sigil]

jjonak throwing

[jovial fiber]

Imagine having friends

[tawny sigil]

sbb is gonna emp the worse timing

[dapper lantern]

he’s special. both to me and in brain capacity

[cedar drum]

Taimou with his Watermelon sized Widow balls.

[dreamy cave]

huh

[jovial fiber]

ez

[dreamy cave]

worse what?

[tawny sigil]

welp... that didnt happen

easy

[inland pawn]

imagine not playing taimou until the middle of stage 3 LUL

[jovial fiber]

They are actually getting carried by taimou

[inland pawn]

and insist on playing zach for the longest time

[tawny sigil]

LOL

9000 IQ

[jovial fiber]

Fuck taimou

[dapper lantern]

new york is going to lose this match and I’m not surprised anymore. they’re playing like absolute shit.

[wintry kraken]

they let Taimou oout of the jail

[clear crane]

damn wats happening!

[jovial fiber]

This game is rigged

[inland pawn]

ZACH TIRES LUL

[balmy wolf]

dallas vs New York

that is what is currently happening

[tawny sigil]

another pepega emp from sbb

[jovial fiber]

2 man emp

[cloud latch]

rip nyxl

[dreamy cave]

[tawny sigil]

2-2-2 winning vs 1-2-3 goats

[jovial fiber]

Don’t worry NYXL will reverse sweep on some Boston shit

[balmy wolf]

anyway, really excited for mayhem win

[jovial fiber]

WHATATATATAAT

[trim shadow]

is dallas pulling a s1

[tawny sigil]

as i hear the thunder roaring in the background

this is epic

[karmic grotto]

Zach is getting carried

[trim shadow]

be shit in stage 1 n stage 2

[karmic grotto]

be honest guys

[trim shadow]

go god like stage 3 and 4

well actually they lost to chengdu twice nvm

[cedar drum]

Alright, they might need to give the OWL script writers a raise now.

[tawny sigil]

dallas is spread out like butter, sbb has no idea where to emp

[trim shadow]

owl scrip writers need 1 million

[cedar drum]

@tawny sigil Yup, absolutely on top of it.

[jovial fiber]

dallas has 3 good players

they are garbage

[cedar drum]

They were spread out in different wings on the backside of the point

Closer was constantly hiding into rooms while also pocketing trill

[trim shadow]

dallas honestly is wining cause taimo is pumping damage

[cedar drum]

He know SBB would EMP them for most value

@trim shadow Taimou probably shot calling in voice. Hopefully.

[trim shadow]

if i was sbb i wouldve aimed the emp's at hog n orisa

there less mobile

[cedar drum]

SBB, Nenne both looking pretty bad first 2 maps.

JJonak also playing way too much in the open

[jovial fiber]

Reverse sweep coming :)))))

[trim shadow]

or get a manual hack on hog and emp junkrat if he trys to walk up

cause you know zacharee will do that

[cedar drum]

Apparently when u play goats meta for months u forget you can get deleted by a widow in a second if u get too fearless

[trim shadow]

walks into the open

falls over

ohhhhh

[cedar drum]

Oh my god

I just realised

[jovial fiber]

What

[cedar drum]

NYXL sandbagging....it's gonna happen again

Reddit about to lit up

With that

1000s of comments about NYXL sandbagging

[jovial fiber]

Stop

[tawny sigil]

what drug is hidden in that sand bag

sinatraa is gonna lose his mvp spot by playing sombra

[jovial fiber]

Libero MVP

[trim shadow]

ameng mvp

make it happen

[jovial fiber]

Xqc MVP :))

[wintry kraken]

@jovial fiber his MVP move was getting kicked out

[dapper lantern]

what are these mvps

[tawny sigil]

you missed stage 3 you missed season 2

[dreamy cave]

mano needs to stop playing whinston for a bit

fuck

[tawny sigil]

fact

[jovial fiber]

Mano is my dad

[tawny sigil]

4-0

telling you guys

[jovial fiber]

3-2 reverse swwweeeeeep

[tawny sigil]

not even

[jovial fiber]

whatchu mean kuh

[tawny sigil]

3-0, we get a draw

MONTE HITTING US WITH THE HARD FACTS!

in your face, haters

[jovial fiber]

I want mickie

[uneven wren]

dallas won series already?

or halftime

[dapper lantern]

halftime

[jovial fiber]

Dallas hasn’t won

[uneven wren]

alright

[tawny sigil]

dallas playing 2-2-2, nyxl playing sombra goats

sbb throwing again

[jovial fiber]

WHAAAT

[uneven wren]

sick

[jovial fiber]

Fuck this shitty ass game

Rigged

[dapper lantern]

at least it will be over quickly

[uneven wren]

i expect zach to get hard carried and then take the credit after

[jovial fiber]

I swear to god

[balmy wolf]

Hahahahaha

always expect the unexpected

[jovial fiber]

NA ULT

[tawny sigil]

oh man this match + thunder storm.... most epic point of this summer

[dreamy cave]

mano is killing me

[jovial fiber]

I hate watching the OWL

It’s awesome

[dreamy cave]

hes im so done with this match im walking away from it

[tawny sigil]

hater

[jovial fiber]

Fucking roblox

Shut up mate

[balmy wolf]

can't watch more than half of the matches because i moved to eu just as the best stage was starting 😎

ping mods?

[jovial fiber]

Spamming roblox in a OW discord WeirdChamp

[mint turtle]

Dont

Fk

[tawny sigil]

thanks

[balmy wolf]

cool

[mint turtle]

You did it

[jovial fiber]

Sbb popped off

[mint turtle]

Next time message modmail, pinging mods pings all of them

[tawny sigil]

ok

man when team get hold on that spot, it never ends

[jovial fiber]

EZ

Sbb not washed 👌

[tawny sigil]

mah boyz

[dreamy cave]

am i cursing this by watching?

the moment i fucking look

they start losing

guys im going for good

[jovial fiber]

Tank stop watching pls

ty

gods work

[tawny sigil]

winnable winnable

[balmy wolf]

Either dallas lose on map 5 or dallas win on map 4

Mark my words

[jovial fiber]

That’s a safe bet

[tawny sigil]

they would win here

all depends on how pepega the emps are

[jovial fiber]

SBB is doing better now

[tawny sigil]

full goats

[jovial fiber]

Libero actually has such a big hero pool

Ultimate flex

[little silo]

what is going on here

dallas 2-0 rn wtf

did they run pine or how did that happen

[jovial fiber]

Yeah it’s rigged

Taimou is playing

He’s cheating

[dapper lantern]

I

🤔

[little silo]

maybe his leadership is insane

[jovial fiber]

U

🤔

Taimou and Note are carrying

[little silo]

hoping for a reverse sweep

[jovial fiber]

^

[neat fog]

Aha no taille

[jovial fiber]

LOOOOOOOOL DALLAS HAS LOST

AKM BACK=LOSS

[neat fog]

Yeah

[hidden osprey]

Yo wtf have I missed? Dallas are up 2 against NYXL?

[jovial fiber]

Taimou was carrying

Aero is Pepega

[neat fog]

Yeah, tamou c

[hidden osprey]

Oldmou is back

[jovial fiber]

And got akm

[neat fog]

RIP Dallas

[stark rivet]

F

[dapper lantern]

👀

[jovial fiber]

NYXL is gonna reverse sweep

[clear crane]

lmao this dallas play

alwasy funny

[hidden osprey]

NYXL are gonna be so mad

I know I would be

Oh they broke it, nice

[dapper lantern]

bitch asses

[jovial fiber]

ez

[stark rivet]

I feel like jijonak should be using his MVP skin

[jovial fiber]

AKM popped off ngl

[inland pawn]

NENNE GRAV INTO ZACH'S GREAT SUICIDE LUL

[jovial fiber]

ZACH LULW

[uneven wren]

GOOD JOB ZACH

[jovial fiber]

Zachafeed

[uneven wren]

zach throwing himself into a 0 man emp

i mean grav

[jovial fiber]

Stop bullying sbb

[inland pawn]

what happened to the stage 1 and stage 2 NYXL

[tawny sigil]

sbb is bullying himself fine

[cedar drum]

Monte bringing the absolute fire today on NYXL

Roasting them like a pig, jeez!

[jovial fiber]

ZACH

IS

TRASH

[clear crane]

LMAOOOO

[north beacon]

Last ditch bastion. Oh it’s like all my QP games

[jovial fiber]

NA ULT

SCRIM GOD PLAYS

[clear crane]

yeeet

[karmic grotto]

nyxl bad

[hidden osprey]

That's a... charlie niner

[karmic grotto]

so bad

[jovial fiber]

C9

[uneven wren]

XEPHER STRAT

[jovial fiber]

ITS A Z9

[south brook]

Actually

[uneven wren]

THEN C9 35 SECS LATER

[cedar drum]

NYXL total pepega tier today

[trim shadow]

Charlie 9

[jovial fiber]

WHYYYYYYYY

[uneven wren]

dallas has a chance

[cedar drum]

NYXL SANDBAGGING

[jovial fiber]

WE HADD THAAAAT

[cedar drum]

LUL

[neat fog]

Omg

[uneven wren]

nyxl didn't even have 3rd point close to locked in tho

[neat fog]

Nyxl is really having a shitty day

[karmic grotto]

Aero is dating Zachs mom in secret

That's it

[uneven wren]

i still wish zach was subbed out

[jovial fiber]

Zach has the worst tires

[cedar drum]

Oh wow, Overwatch at 141K+ viewers right now, no. 3, almost no. 2

[jovial fiber]

in all of OW

[uneven wren]

his first tire wasn't bad tho

killed libero and forced jjonak to trans

[jovial fiber]

tru but most are dog shit

Mano 🗿

[clear crane]

dallas showing why dva is still valuable

[jovial fiber]

Note*

[dapper lantern]

standing my my original statement

[hidden osprey]

Is mano okay lol

[jovial fiber]

Chipsa tho

[clear crane]

ooof bad wake up

[uneven wren]

today zach's jakerat isn't bad

[clear crane]

cuda staggered harder

[uneven wren]

tbh

[hidden osprey]

His round on defence is pretty poor so far

[uneven wren]

his mei however

[jovial fiber]

I hate being a NYXL fan

It’s awesome

[clear crane]

uhhh

bad emp? lol

[uneven wren]

nyxl is garbage today

[tawny sigil]

as usual

[jovial fiber]

ngl 3-1 today

[uneven wren]

4:30 to win

[dapper lantern]

gggggggggggggggggggggggg

[jovial fiber]

Just a Off

[tawny sigil]

4:20 to get a win

[jovial fiber]

420

[uneven wren]

welp zach on brig

[vagrant niche]

woah wai wtf

[jovial fiber]

HOW

[dreamy cave]

@ me when the match over

[vagrant niche]

Dallas is winning?

[hidden osprey]

Ikr Adrian

That was my exact response

[vagrant niche]

i just came in from work

[north beacon]

I don’t really follow that closely. Did Libero start playing dva this season?

[vagrant niche]

Where is Timo?

[hidden osprey]

Timo played 2 maps

[jovial fiber]

He was subbed out

[vagrant niche]

for akm?

[jovial fiber]

Yep

he did good

[vagrant niche]

Nice!!!

[jovial fiber]

He carried oasis and Paris

[hidden osprey]

SBB with EMP on cooldown

[ornate rose]

Bruh how is Ny losing to Dallas

[tawny sigil]

dallas is going to choke

[uneven wren]

dallas starting to throw

[jovial fiber]

nyxl best team

[uneven wren]

akm now zarya

[hidden osprey]

Zach's brig is so shit

[uneven wren]

omg dallas is choking

[jovial fiber]

Reverse Sweep PogU

[vagrant niche]

oh man

rip

[karmic grotto]

AKM throwing

the fuck is this shit

[vagrant niche]

usually XL map 5 means they win

[neat fog]

Holy moly

[karmic grotto]

just play the heroes youre good at

[minor flame]

e pic

[uneven wren]

why in the world did dallas swap to full goats

[jovial fiber]

I’m want Taimou back

[minor flame]

that was ep ic

[karmic grotto]

NYXL gets away again by a throwing team

[trim shadow]

Were going to map 5 boys and one girl

[neat fog]

What a game it has been already

[uneven wren]

zach should've stayed on junkrat

[neat fog]

Such tension

Yeah

[cloud latch]

I think dallas will still win though

[uneven wren]

akm swapping didn't help either

[karmic grotto]

he should have gone for zarya

[jovial fiber]

I have a good feeling NYXL is gonna win

[ornate rose]

Ny gonna pull through

[trim shadow]

Dallas more then likely got boomed

[jovial fiber]

If Dallas carries on chocking

[uneven wren]

3 times dallas got 1st picks on 3rd point but lost the fight all 3 times

[dreamy cave]

@trim shadow can u @ me when the nyxl match is over

[jovial fiber]

Ccccccccccccc

[tawny sigil]

can u @ me when its over, don't @ me

[jovial fiber]

Ok

[dreamy cave]

:0

[uneven wren]

zach is such a terrible brig i can't even

[jovial fiber]

Tank ty

[balmy wolf]

as i said before, dallas wins 4 OR loses 5

[tawny sigil]

well they swapped what won on first map

[uneven wren]

they fucked up already

[tawny sigil]

so yeah they lost

[uneven wren]

and the stream froze

[hidden osprey]

Stream dead?

[cloud latch]

what did they do already?

[uneven wren]

everyone refresh

[jovial fiber]

No

[hidden osprey]

The one game I want to watch and the stream dies

omfg

[jovial fiber]

Yall have shit Internet

[tawny sigil]

twitch suck that's all

[uneven wren]

wtf

nyxl playing full goats

libero dva sbb brig

[jovial fiber]

spam this gecko to bring back meko

[tawny sigil]

akm sombra, im not convinced

[hidden osprey]

Zach is unbelievably shit, spends more time waving hello than finishing off a 1 hit JJonak

[uneven wren]

and he's dead

[jovial fiber]

MOH TRU LULW

[cloud latch]

what was beat for?

[jovial fiber]

Barrage 4Shrug

[trim shadow]

Zacharee 90% salutinf

10% hitting shots

[uneven wren]

emp + barrage still loses the fight

[hidden osprey]

Closer lmao

[jovial fiber]

Zacharee hello

[tawny sigil]

from winning to gold play

[north beacon]

Yeah Zach why are you waving hello your barrage got nothing and your team is losing

[minor flame]

lmao what

did closer try to do a jump?

[uneven wren]

dallas you got my hopes up for nothing

[jovial fiber]

They need Taimou

[cloud latch]

still a chance for dallas

[hidden osprey]

nah, NY have this

[tawny sigil]

taimou is the reason they wont 2 maps, and they swapped him out

[neat fog]

Yeah

[uneven wren]

nyxl just winning with 3-3 without meko

[jovial fiber]

Lioran yep

Libero is the ultimate flex

MVP

[uneven wren]

sbb in brig jail now

and closer clutches

[jovial fiber]

CLOSER PogU

[minor flame]

libero

libero on dva

what a

huh

[jovial fiber]

very delayed

[idle beacon]

who's winning?

[north beacon]

Zach stop waving hi it’s just obnoxious now

[minor flame]

no one

[jovial fiber]

NYXL

[north beacon]

Does he think he looks cool or something

[jovial fiber]

They are gonna reverse sweep

[idle beacon]

i hope so

i hate zach

[jovial fiber]

Zach thinks he’s sinatraa

besides he got da skillz

[uneven wren]

90% for dallas

[north beacon]

Yeah I’m basically rooting for Dallas to lose just because of Zach’s waves now

[uneven wren]

zach on brig now

gg

[minor flame]

????

wow nice supercharger bro

[uneven wren]

akm playing zarya are u kidding

[jovial fiber]

Dallas going goats

Loss

Gg