esports-discussion

[raw ermine]

thats soo cute

[night tusk]

He was in OWL when they showed a new animated short I believe..

[balmy wolf]

You really wanna be the guy who advocates a buff to brig?

[midnight sage]

Bring old Brig back

[balmy wolf]

rework of brig

[night tusk]

But jeff can just watch a game right?

I did not expect anything lol

[tawny sigil]

brig deserve to be locked and we lose the key

[midnight sage]

I want to shield bash a Rein out of a charge again

[balmy wolf]

If he did, he wouldn't have two Blizzard employee's with him

[tawny sigil]

best scenario

jail brig with 2-2-2 and throw the key away

[gaunt acorn]

jeff always attends to make announcements

[balmy wolf]

Please god let fissure be trolling

[midnight sage]

PROFIT D:

[gaunt acorn]

@balmy wolf fissure was far from the only source

[midnight sage]

It was rumored before Fissure said anything

[balmy wolf]

I know but he was the only hard confirmation of sorts

[raw ermine]

gottem

[mint slate]

well i missed the jeff thing and it doesnt look like hes gonna appear again

[balmy wolf]

everyone else was just like

"Oh yea it's something you'll like"

[gaunt acorn]

@mint slate half-time

[tawny sigil]

6 ult incoming

[gaunt acorn]

that's when they announce stuff

[dreamy cave]

this is sad

[tawny sigil]

play despacito 2

[midnight sage]

Oh, this isn't good for London

[mint slate]

how do i go back to halftime

[dapper lantern]

🤔

[gaunt acorn]

the first game just started like 20 minutes ago

[dreamy cave]

no dragons

[tawny sigil]

wtf is dva looking at the corner for

[dapper lantern]

he’s saying during halftime

[tawny sigil]

WHICH ONE!?!?!

[raw ermine]

I AM SPEED

[dreamy cave]

ALMOST 6 min

[tawny sigil]

4-0 i told you guys

[night tusk]

“When goats is death london and philly would be in finals again”

[tawny sigil]

unless they take some quick acting beta blocker during the half time

[midnight sage]

Not sure what a beta blocker will do, but you can get IV metoprolol and it works in seconds

[tawny sigil]

no idea what that is

beta blocker is a generic term

[midnight sage]

... No it isn't

it is a specific class of medications

[tawny sigil]

hence, generic

i want the molecule name

advil is generic, its really called Ibuprofen

[midnight sage]

Oh, good lord you are an idiot

or a troll

[dapper lantern]

that’s not what generic means in medicine

[midnight sage]

or an idiot troll

[dapper lantern]

🤔

[dreamy cave]

wtf is this comp

[midnight sage]

Ibuprofen is the generic name, Advil is the brand name

[dreamy cave]

tere throwing

[midnight sage]

Beta blockers are a class of medications

[raw ermine]

Poggers

[tawny sigil]

people ask for advil even if they dont buy advil

they dont ask for ibuprofen

[dreamy cave]

oh

[midnight sage]

Metoprolol is an example of a beta blocker. It is the generic name of the medication. Lopressor is the brand name

[dreamy cave]

or not

[midnight sage]

First, plenty of people ask for ibuprofen. Second, that is because people know the name Advil.

Just like people ask for a tissue by asking for a Kleenex

[hidden vault]

Why sign loxic and magachu

Lol

[midnight sage]

It is still the brand name, not the generic name

[dreamy cave]

they got lless time now

[tawny sigil]

sorry i was wrong, its the opposite of what i said

[midnight sage]

Yep.

[dapper lantern]

logix is great though, one of the best people that were on mayhem before the kr roster nonsense

[raw ermine]

nano blade

[dreamy cave]

jfc

[midnight sage]

whacked away

[raw ermine]

noice

[tawny sigil]

everyone suck on defence on drawskaya

[night tusk]

Is this a new hero?

[tawny sigil]

A

[balmy wolf]

Actually

That might be the announcement

That would be huge

[dapper lantern]

I wish the hometown collection wasn’t half trash

[balmy wolf]

We were supposed to get a teaser or something relatively soon

[night tusk]

Don’t expect anything because jeff is there xd

[tawny sigil]

no one is gonna care if they dont talk about 222

[dapper lantern]

mayhem’s stuff looks nice though

[balmy wolf]

If you think 2/2/2 is a good idea, you're actually plat

or below

[night tusk]

Idk when blizzcon will be

[tawny sigil]

222 is good idea for the players, 222 for stage 4 is dum

[tropic herald]

Was LAV time record?

[supple prism]

unlikely

[gaunt acorn]

@balmy wolf could be both

the new hero will be unveiled in a week or less

[night tusk]

Plat is the most players OW have, the viewers are going down because people don’t want to watch goats

[tawny sigil]

we need a wiki for that stuff

[gaunt acorn]

but role lock also needs to be in place for stage 4

which is a month away

so he may announce both simultaneously

[dreamy cave]

oof

[tawny sigil]

Wiki or a website with all the map time record for OWL

[raw ermine]

hahaha

[balmy wolf]

You're not watching goats

Literally this stage has been a mix of every comp

[tawny sigil]

speedrun dot com/overwatch

[dapper lantern]

bruh, people can have different opinions than you

[night tusk]

People who don’t watch OWL anymore won’t know that

[dapper lantern]

it’s okay

[tropic herald]

People in chat complaing about teams playing goats is dumb

[night tusk]

Since Nate is gone and numbers going down they want to make big changes to see something go up

[dreamy cave]

jeez the comeback

[raw ermine]

getting styled on

[tropic herald]

This fight really is just Q simulator

[dreamy cave]

they wernt getting kills

[tawny sigil]

that should be a workshop mode

Q simulator

[tropic herald]

kariv out here

[dapper lantern]

we out here

[dreamy cave]

we out cha

[tawny sigil]

that paid girl is not there today?

i guess she had some movie shooting going on

[dreamy cave]

the mercy outfitted one?

[tawny sigil]

no, that one never came back

day 1 gone

[dreamy cave]

idr then

[tawny sigil]

the girl with the 100 braid hairstyle

[tropic herald]

Birdring Ksf should be interseting

[dreamy cave]

birdiring <ksf

[dapper lantern]

Sure about that?

[dreamy cave]

on widow

[midnight sage]

Birdring is worse than KSF?

[dapper lantern]

I meant you typed that as he died to birdring

[tropic herald]

I think Birdring is a better Widow

[gaunt acorn]

lol wtf was that

[tawny sigil]

win or win for lav

draw, nah

[tropic herald]

But it will still be a good ivi

1v1

[midnight sage]

Yo, that arrow into tracer

[raw ermine]

GG

[dreamy cave]

YO AGILITIES

[gaunt acorn]

very nice

[tropic herald]

GG

[raw ermine]

Jeff speech now?

[clear crane]

nice nice

this might be 4-0

[tropic herald]

Nah

I think its gonna be a 3-1

This match is pretty close

At least from what I have seen

[tawny sigil]

what?

[dreamy cave]

not the 2nd map

1st map yeah

[balmy wolf]

^

[tawny sigil]

they were warming up

its over now, 4-0

[tropic herald]

For all we know London could turn on

[tawny sigil]

steam summer sales meanwhile

[tropic herald]

They are very clearly not playing there best

[balmy wolf]

Don’t they usually say something if Jeff has an announcement?

[tropic herald]

but its unlikely they would do it now

[balmy wolf]

Or do you think it’s going to be a surprise

[tropic herald]

Idk could happen anytime

[balmy wolf]

I don’t think it’s guaranteed it will happpen

maybe at the homestand if he goes

[tropic herald]

Honestly there is so many times that Jeff could pop up

[tawny sigil]

maybe next half time we'll see jeff

paid actor

[balmy wolf]

wait so TD has 12 players now right?

oh its 10

wonder if their gonna do 2 more signings

[raw ermine]

aww, no jeff

Maybe next game?

[balmy wolf]

maybe

Goats really be dead here. Well Ana Floats but still

[gaunt acorn]

@balmy wolf neither of these teams were ever particularly good at goats

[raw ermine]

where does the FL in floats come from?

[gaunt acorn]

@raw ermine winston goats

the fl doesn't stand for anything

[raw ermine]

ok

[supple prism]

flying

[gaunt acorn]

flying goats

[tawny sigil]

those 2 girls crying must be tired of seeing their face being replayed

been on replay since the beginning of the season

[raw ermine]

Agilities xd

jeez ksf

[tawny sigil]

valiant the new shock?

[raw ermine]

wow

[gaunt acorn]

cool nice

[supple prism]

val? nah

[tawny sigil]

from 0-7 to 5-2 with a pretty hard schedule

[balmy wolf]

spark is looking like the new shock

[silent cliff]

holy shit

london got destroyed

ksf carried the last bit of hollywood

[tawny sigil]

i told you guys

4-0

[silent cliff]

wtf happened to london

[twin cobalt]

That nano on agilities was weird

[supple prism]

spark does have a chance of taking the 3rd spot from shock

[silent cliff]

probably kariv was aiming for someone else but hit agilities

happens a lot

[twin cobalt]

Nah it looked deliberate

Can't wait for GF

[tawny sigil]

oh no she's there

that guy with the mohawk been there since the start of season 1, dedication

watching as much as i do, but in the Arena, that's impressive, also Hello Tinnitis

[balmy wolf]

what about that LA glads shield guy?

[tawny sigil]

paid

im convinced

[balmy wolf]

maybe

then again there are some dedicated sport fans

[tawny sigil]

yea but they just suddenly appeared with that outfit

that's what made me think it was paid, and for both LA team

they had valla last year but i guess she didnt want to come back

[balmy wolf]

who cares at this point ¯_(ツ)_/¯

fans are fans

[uneven wren]

pog runescape references

[twin cobalt]

Shax waiting is some next level lol

[opal spruce]

i met the Valiant lady in Dallas, she's not paid

not sure about glads

[tropic herald]

LAV giving me deja vu

[tawny sigil]

how can you tell, they have NDA for those

[twin cobalt]

I'm all for more RuneScape memes

[opal spruce]

you ask

[tawny sigil]

yeah nda = forced to lie

[uneven wren]

huge grav9

[tawny sigil]

looked good

[uneven wren]

that was a big brain play

[tropic herald]

London9 PepeHands

[tawny sigil]

alright time to make a burger

[tropic herald]

Kariv Pog

[gaunt acorn]

lol

[silent cliff]

WOW

[balmy wolf]

damn VAL just stomp them

[silent cliff]

4-0

london got boomed so hard

they got full held twice

or thrice?

didn't watch the first two

[balmy wolf]

wasn't as bad in the stage 2 playoffs

they got full held on every map

[tropic herald]

the standings rn feel pretty accurate

[balmy wolf]

theres only one ALT team in the stage playoffs lmao

[silent cliff]

ana paintball to practice pog

[balmy wolf]

freaking NY automatically get the number 1 seed

[silent cliff]

kariv

you are a monster

[tropic herald]

Pacific region is stacked

[silent cliff]

wow wtf

ny is the only atlantic div team in the playoffs

also KSF AS POTM

kariv robbed

at least valiant is now clinched

valiant skyrocketed when fate and moon left

[tawny sigil]

logix coming back baby

[silent cliff]

hMMmMM whAt coULD thIS MeaN

oh really?

where

[tropic herald]

deja vu

[raw ermine]

Mangachu poggers

[tropic herald]

MANGACHU

[tawny sigil]

uber just said it

you not listening breh?

[silent cliff]

w o a h

i wasn't paying attention oops

[tropic herald]

mangachu and logic both got signed to Toronto

[balmy wolf]

logix isnt starting

mangachu is

[tropic herald]

logix

[silent cliff]

finally, mangachu gets to be in OWL

dude deserves it so much

[tropic herald]

idk if Logix is in LA

[balmy wolf]

he should be

just not starting over ivy for zarya

[silent cliff]

logix is pog

[tropic herald]

Logix is so nice I was really sad when no teams originally picked him up

[silent cliff]

then he got picked up on florida

which is worse than not having a team

[tropic herald]

No im talking about this season

[silent cliff]

oh oops

[tropic herald]

Im so happy for him

[silent cliff]

logix is pretty good but is he good on zarya

[balmy wolf]

yes

[tropic herald]

he had to flex onto it for Montreal Rebellion

[silent cliff]

man i hope toronto makes a turnaround for this

in the beginning of the season they were really good

[sullen berry]

ohhh boy

[silent cliff]

then they just made a nosedive

[tropic herald]

ivy is a really good zarya so i doubt we see Logix over Ivy on Zarya at least

[silent cliff]

it's really sad

[raw ermine]

jeff plz

[sullen berry]

mangachu and logix, sharyk and gods

good training match

[tropic herald]

Toronto is still good they switched from full Korean to split

They are for sure better than the next 4ish teams ahead of them

[silent cliff]

i'm so happy for mangachu he made it onto OWL

like legit proud

he's a really good dps player

and a pretty solid brig too

[sullen berry]

walks up to the soda stand

Yeah, can i get uh

CHENGDU LITE?

[silent cliff]

go glads woo

MANGACHU

POG

[raw ermine]

MANGACHU

[tropic herald]

he looks so Canadian

[silent cliff]

MANGACHUUU

[tropic herald]

but

MANGACHUUUUUUUUUUU

[rapid bobcat]

MANGACHUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[sullen berry]

that canadian skin tone

[silent cliff]

MANGACHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

oh God so this is the song diem was singing on comms

good Lord diem why

the battle of the canadians

surefour vs mangachu

also, is decay a good sombra?

haven't seen the matches where he played him yet

[tropic herald]

idk I hope

S4 has no beard

[gaunt acorn]

surefour vs mangachu

[raw ermine]

^

[silent cliff]

MANGACHU HANZO

[raw ermine]

oof

[tropic herald]

Double Sniper :/

[silent cliff]

and glads on winston goats

[raw ermine]

oof boop

[tropic herald]

actual C9

[supple prism]

where

[silent cliff]

goose is loose pog

[tropic herald]

Goose naisu

[dapper lantern]

what have I missed

[balmy wolf]

Toronto sucking ass

[silent cliff]

london got steamrolled by valiant, 4-0

[balmy wolf]

Gladiators looking okay

[silent cliff]

and toronto bringing in mangachu and still doing horrid

[forest raven]

Surefour looking like a snack

[silent cliff]

daddy tisumi

[dapper lantern]

thanks

[silent cliff]

LMFAO "don't you guys have a phone"

[forest raven]

They really just made a do you guys have phones reference on a blizzard stream

[sullen berry]

Hex's phone game is strong

[silent cliff]

what the fuck is this composition

attack bastion and s4 on dva

[sullen berry]

ivy's borked ashe on defense

[silent cliff]

is this quickplay oh my God

[sullen berry]

Never thought i would have ever seen the most disappointing bob ultimate

[silent cliff]

yeah ivy fucked up the dynamite

whaT IS HAPPENING

[forest raven]

Ivy's ashe

Good lord

[sullen berry]

dynamite to the floor

smile

[silent cliff]

what happened

wtf ivy

[tawny sigil]

naisu

[silent cliff]

woooo let's go glads

[tropic herald]

Why is Ivy on widow? isn't he a projectile player

[silent cliff]

surefour on widow omg

[clear crane]

widow is projectile

[silent cliff]

LMAO

[tawny sigil]

nice try

[silent cliff]

there was an attempt

[tropic herald]

torb

hell yeah

YESS

[south brook]

Tactical crouches all day

[tawny sigil]

and i got hickups, couldn't get more hilarious

[silent cliff]

POG

[sullen berry]

ladies and gentleman

we got him

[gaunt acorn]

lol

[sullen berry]

[tropic herald]

Neko just took it

[sullen berry]

this storyline is underrated

[silent cliff]

neko accepted death

hydration orisa jesus christ

[tropic herald]

S4 was going to go agane

[sullen berry]

with role lock, put yakpung on support or go wrecking ball indefinitely

[silent cliff]

surefour did the
tactical crouch

[fervent scaffold]

Heard Jeff is at the arena?

That's interesting. Makes me wonder what's planned.

Any of the games been good so far today?

[silent cliff]

well valiant had an absolute stomp

and glads look like they're stomping the fuck out of defiant

[pearl stratus]

Oh hey. I was right, they played Mangachu.

Poor Mangachu.

[silent cliff]

mangachu deserves better

which team needs a projectile dps/good brig atm besides toronto

[tropic herald]

There is a lot of stomps this week

[silent cliff]

stage 3 is an absolute roller coaster tbh

[tropic herald]

Toronto has a good roster guys, but GOATs is a synergy based meta let them have time before they get better

[silent cliff]

valiant's improvement was so sudden and 180 jesus lord

moon and fate were the problem

[tropic herald]

Fate wasn’t bad but moon was pretty bad

[silent cliff]

fate meant custa getting benched, which is bad

[tropic herald]

“We don’t want to play Custa because he is to smart”

[silent cliff]

custa actually too big brained for them

[tropic herald]

Thankfully they have Shax who also has a 6Head

[silent cliff]

Moon: let's play a main tank over on main support because he's good at ult tracking 4head

[tropic herald]

Moon: We have possibly one of the best personalities in OWL who is actually really good at Support, let’s bench him

[pearl stratus]

Also side note - Mangachu is good, but not that good.

[tropic herald]

Mangachu is good but OWL teams didn’t pick him up bc if his wack hero pool

[pearl stratus]

Defiant makes the most sense for him.

Maybe Washington, but Ado.

[sullen berry]

Hey Overwatch fans!

Do you want to celebrate YOU city?

• overwatch league

[tropic herald]

My city won’t get celebrated

[sullen berry]

neither

not with that simple mistake on broadcast

[tropic herald]

Ohio FeelsWeirdMan

[pearl stratus]

Also wonder if Yakpung is for Neko.

[tawny sigil]

lost in 5

lost

[copper solstice]

@tropic herald same here. No Cleveland big businesses anyways not like as much as most cities

[tropic herald]

Hey there is Cincinnati

[silent cliff]

well

that was a stomp

[copper solstice]

And Columbus

[tropic herald]

Well yeah but P+G is a pretty big business

[umbral bone]

does anyone know when the next nyxl game is

[tropic herald]

Soon

I think they play this weekend

[umbral bone]

Is there a calendar?

[tropic herald]

overwatchleague.com

[gaunt acorn]

https://overwatchleague.com/schedule

@umbral bone

[umbral bone]

tyvm :D

[silent cliff]

it's tomorrow vs dallas

rip dallas

and fuck, it starts at 3am

[copper solstice]

Plus I feel like if Ohio had a team it would be weird

[silent cliff]

i can't randomly wake up at 3am to watch my team play ;; ---- ;;

[tropic herald]

Ohio has multiple teams

I think it’d be normal

[opal spruce]

name me one Ohio team that doesnt have awful fans

[tropic herald]

Well

[copper solstice]

Don’t they have multiple owl players aswell

[tropic herald]

That’s harsh

[opal spruce]

besides maybe the indians

[copper solstice]

Or is the only owl player from Ohio muma

[tropic herald]

Cyclones aren’t that bad

Ohio would probably be a Midwest representative

[opal spruce]

i guess theres really only Ohio State and the Cavs

[silent cliff]

did shaz just nano biggoose

[sullen berry]

@umbral bone

[tropic herald]

Okay but Ohio is a pretty nice place

[copper solstice]

Uh depends on the city and the place

[tropic herald]

Well

I guess that true

But I’d say Ohio is an above average state

[gaunt acorn]

someone in the audience told semmler to shut up

lmao

[silent cliff]

"he got mangachu!"
"not a headshot, doesn't count!"
"shut up!"

LMAO

[tawny sigil]

https://stayhipp.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Untitled-3.jpg
decay and the boys?

[umbral bone]

yo is it just me or the link isnt working

to watch overwatch

[tawny sigil]

what link

[umbral bone]

watch live

[tawny sigil]

https://player.twitch.tv/?volume=0.17&!muted&channel=overwatchleague

[umbral bone]

my browser died

can you have owl live in the background and still get tokens?

[tawny sigil]

this match is ResidentSleeper

can you have owl live and get token... well... that's the only way to get the tokens sir

[dapper lantern]

they’re asking if it can be run in the background

[umbral bone]

no like can you have the tab in the background

[dapper lantern]

yes, you can.

[umbral bone]

coolio

[dapper lantern]

I’m not watching most of the time, just listening or doing something else

[umbral bone]

thanks for the help :d

[silent cliff]

yup you can

you can just mute the stream and still get tokens

[gaunt acorn]

@dapper lantern sleeper casting

[dapper lantern]

right?

that doesn’t help

[silent cliff]

semmler and hex are kind of pepega

[gaunt acorn]

if semm/hex aren't replaced next season it will be a travesty

[dapper lantern]

I really try to like them but damn

[gaunt acorn]

or rather, an injustice

[silent cliff]

i want uber to cast a valiant match

[dapper lantern]

it’s impossible

[silent cliff]

good Lord

[gaunt acorn]

they started to improve last season

but they seem to have forgotten everything over the break and went back to peak braindead casting

[silent cliff]

please get a pair of casters from contenders, some of them are really darn good pls

[gaunt acorn]

only duo i get actively bored

gladiators are literally my #2 team and mangachu is one of my favourite players

yet it's barely held my attention

[dapper lantern]

who casted last night eternal and seoul?

I accidentally fell asleep

[silent cliff]

uhhh i forgot

[gaunt acorn]

@dapper lantern wolf/achilios

[dapper lantern]

I only remember the first map and then it was lights out

damn, I feel kind of bad then

must’ve been a boring match

[gaunt acorn]

paris games tend to pan out that way

[dapper lantern]

I also missed chengdu 😦

[gaunt acorn]

chengdu was a pog match

[dapper lantern]

sad

I’ll just watch the vod

[proven saddle]

decayis popping off and they keep switch his pov

[gaunt acorn]

[silent cliff]

lot of these matches were stomps

[dapper lantern]

wow

decay robbed

[silent cliff]

surefour potm

tbh it should've gone to decay

[dapper lantern]

they really gave it to him for a stupid hammer kill

[silent cliff]

HOU vs WAS

[gaunt acorn]

it's ok decay won in the end

https://twitter.com/Avast_o/status/1144813379309252609

Avast (@Avast_o)

Despite the hammer kill from @Surefour it is official that @DecayOW is your @ChuckECheese Chad of the Match!

#BringtheMayhem

Twitter

[silent cliff]

gonna be a stomp

[dapper lantern]

I’m

oh my god this picture

[supple prism]

he also plays the Chuck E Cheeses song with it as well

[dapper lantern]

I’ve only been to Chuck E. Cheese one time

[supple prism]

and he picks a player for every match

since like stage 2

on the rare occasion there is also a Blockbusters Beta of the match

[silent cliff]

what is a chuck e cheese and why are americans raving about it

[dapper lantern]

uhhhhh, germ zone

basically

[silent cliff]

yikes

[supple prism]

its basically a child casino

[dapper lantern]

it’s for kids but adults like to fight in it

[supple prism]

that serves pizza

[dapper lantern]

the pizza is actually good though? it’s a lawless place

[supple prism]

and use to have an animatronic band

[dapper lantern]

what a time

[silent cliff]

can we get uber to cast pls :(

[opal spruce]

and a giant walking rat mascot

[keen basin]

https://clips.twitch.tv/DistinctHappyOctopusStinkyCheese

[supple prism]

https://i.imgur.com/YU2lnFu.jpg

[dapper lantern]

do any of you have arcades in your area

[supple prism]

...no?

i dont think so

[dapper lantern]

unfortunate

[supple prism]

there is a laser tag place that might

oh there is a chuck e cheese near me

[opal spruce]

theres a freeplay arcade near me

[supple prism]

i should open one of those LAN places around here

[dapper lantern]

I have a couple. One is a pinball arcade with a ton of machines and the other is a traditional arcade

dave and busters too if you want to count that

[opal spruce]

if you havent been to a freeplay arcade you need to

$10 at the door for as long as you want and every machine is free

and theres beer

[proven saddle]

is so sad that Washington lineup it's mostly benched players from others teams :c

[supple prism]

Sleepy looks like Josh Hutcherson

[dapper lantern]

you know what

you’re right

[supple prism]

like dead on

just weird hair

[dapper lantern]

just like fctfctn looks like a discount Andrew Garfield

[proven saddle]

lmao, now you says so

[silent cliff]

oh my God now i can't unsee that

[proven saddle]

he kinda looks like andrew garfield

[dapper lantern]

HAHA

undercover movie stars

[proven saddle]

paid actors

[dapper lantern]

corey 👀

[proven saddle]

ark using NYXL spray lol

[supple prism]

wait a minute

[dapper lantern]

what is happening

this is so stupid, haha

[supple prism]

Josh Hutcherson made a guest appearance at OWL in March. Liked it so much. He then creates the name Sleepy and gets signed to Justice in April

[dapper lantern]

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[proven saddle]

let's go

[supple prism]

oh wait, he was on SF before that

damn it

[dapper lantern]

Sleepy is an alias, confirmed.

[supple prism]

still the same person

[dapper lantern]

no that’s what they want you to think

I can’t believe they’re going to pull this back at the last damn second

Corey angry

[tawny sigil]

easy

[proven saddle]

that hack on ado

[dapper lantern]

they could’ve had that, they really could’ve

[tawny sigil]

just click on their heads

[proven saddle]

well, it hasn't been as one sided as i though i'd be

[supple prism]

they just played this replay

[tawny sigil]

hey guys guess what

[proven saddle]

MY ULTIMATE IS CHARGING

[tawny sigil]

everyone suck on defence on volkskaya

[visual glen]

Linkzr is really quiet today

[tawny sigil]

told ya

[dapper lantern]

I actually zoned out

[supple prism]

why do people not want to watch double sniper

[tawny sigil]

you zone out everyday

[dapper lantern]

only when the matches are like this

sansam

the feeder

[tawny sigil]

yesterday was amazing and you disapeared mid match

[dapper lantern]

I fell asleep

[tawny sigil]

kinda like zoning out, no?

[dapper lantern]

nah, I’m just listening to the audio when I zone out. I passed out and I don’t remember anything from yesterday

[tawny sigil]

DOWNLOAD!

[proven saddle]

WHAT WAS THAT

[dapper lantern]

but hey, chengdu won

[tawny sigil]

whatever that screen we saw was

[proven saddle]

i hope they were muting sansam

[dapper lantern]

production???

[supple prism]

save a replay probably

[tawny sigil]

it was ingame

[dapper lantern]

and then my stream froze

okay

[proven saddle]

f

5

[supple prism]

enhanced spectator power?

[dapper lantern]

I guess I’m downloading a better stream

[supple prism]

you can probably see it in the VOD

[umbral bone]

is there a way to track minutes watching owl

[tawny sigil]

you can click, Clip... you can see the last minute of the stream

[dapper lantern]

sansam, please

with the ultimate

[tawny sigil]

Q simulator

[umbral bone]

is there a way to track minutes watching owl

[tawny sigil]

click clip

[dapper lantern]

why do you need to anyway

[tawny sigil]

what minutes are you talking about

not too sure what you mean

[umbral bone]

You know how every hour is 3 tokens

[tawny sigil]

oh that

[umbral bone]

How do you know how many minutes

[dapper lantern]

man, muma is one unattractive man

[tawny sigil]

try !tokens in the chat maybe i dont know

[dapper lantern]

just start from when you started watching

ark, taking matters into his own hands

[tawny sigil]

a melee?, he had 50 hp left

me and the boyz

[proven saddle]

is it just me or someone else thinks ark is way too passive?

i mean. i'm not gonna tell a pro how to play

[tawny sigil]

is it me or hammond has a nintendo DS symbol on the front?

[umbral bone]

katera are you sure you get tokens if not on the tab

my friend says you dont

[dapper lantern]

I’ve gone “away” and still get my tokens

so I don’t know

[umbral bone]

so like on a diff tab?

[pearl stratus]

Not on the tab is fine.

Muting the stream is not.

[dapper lantern]

^

[pearl stratus]

So if you've been muting the stream its like 95% you've been playing yourself.

[umbral bone]

oh frik

[proven saddle]

sometimes i mute the stream and still got my tokens

[supple prism]

i knew it

i have kept the audio at like 1%

[dapper lantern]

There’s been issues with tokens being late or not coming at all but I’ve never had an issue. I can’t say my experience is the norm though.

[supple prism]

just on the off chance it was a thing

[proven saddle]

either way,just mute the tab to be sure

[pearl stratus]

If you're using chrome you can just mute the tab.

[supple prism]

i cant mute the tab on firefox?

[pearl stratus]

Not sure, tbh

[umbral bone]

do you have to be online while watching

[supple prism]

i mean it has it

[pearl stratus]

If you have the option should be fine

[supple prism]

ok then

ill just leave it at 1%

[umbral bone]

and im guessing all the streaming platforms are the same

right

[pearl stratus]

Safe to assume so, if they give tokens.

Can't say 100% though

[dapper lantern]

wow

[proven saddle]

idk how justice hold that point

[pearl stratus]

Corey, he's outsniping Linkzr pretty steadily. Linkzr widow has looked shaky the last few games.

And the picks matter

Of course right as I say that

But still. Corey is still like 11v6 vs. Linkzr.

[tawny sigil]

DRAWSKAYA

[dapper lantern]

literally had this, again. they keep handing it to the outlaws

[balmy wolf]

this is why DC needs to fire their coaching staff

[normal fractal]

this is why Volskaya needs to be deleted

[pearl stratus]

It's more on coaching than the map.

[dapper lantern]

it’s not volskaya.

[pearl stratus]

WizardHyeong is WizardAlwaysWrong

[proven saddle]

volskaya is one of the best 2cp maps

[dapper lantern]

stop blaming maps for teams performing poorly

[normal fractal]

I think TF2 does it MUCH better ironically

[proven saddle]

just after anubis

[normal fractal]

for asymmetrical modes there's no OT rounds

"do it faster, or do it better"

[umbral bone]

do i need to have ow open to get the rewards?

[dapper lantern]

no

[normal fractal]

you don't get 6-6 games on attack defense, you always just get the one attack per team

[proven saddle]

@umbral bone just the stream

[normal fractal]

i don't know why they'd say "you know what attack/defense needs, more stalemates"

same thing goes for Payload actually

[pearl stratus]

Ot

It's how you can tell e-sports are a real thing

People use every excuse ever on why teams are just dogshit.

[dapper lantern]

^

[tawny sigil]

last half time... jeff is not gonna show up

[normal fractal]

i don't like either team

i just literally don't think the 2cp style is very good

[pearl stratus]

I don't love the 2CP either, but its not why teams win or lose on first point.

[dapper lantern]

Some teams are just bad. End of story. Washington HAD it on BOTH maps so far and they just pass the ball to Outlaws every time.

[normal fractal]

the main issue is, why are 2cp maps designed so that you can go 8-7

which isn't really related too much to that last map but more general

[pearl stratus]

I mean they go 8-7 not because of stalemates.

They go when both teams suck at defense lol

[proven saddle]

nah nobody goes 8-7, not even the pros

[normal fractal]

my plat teams do

[pearl stratus]

We've gotten 8-7 before.

[dapper lantern]

But

[pearl stratus]

Also plat doesn't matter.

[dapper lantern]

We have

lmao

[pearl stratus]

That's like asking why my shit smells.

It's because its shit.

[proven saddle]

but it's not the usual

[normal fractal]

(sarcasm)

[pearl stratus]

No.

Plat is shit. No sarcasm 😛

[normal fractal]

"average is bad"

🤔

[pearl stratus]

Average is 50%.

50% is failing.

[normal fractal]

that's like saying GM is decent

grades are weighted upwards, ranks are not

an average grade is supposed to be a C, which is 75%

[pearl stratus]

Either way, you're in plat. You're not playing the game properly, neither are your teammates.

[proven saddle]

honestly i don't think the next stage we will have that many rounds of 2cp

[normal fractal]

honestly i don't think the next stage will be very good as an esport

if the leaks are true

"no counterpicking, only 2-2-2 mirror matching"

[dapper lantern]

not this again

[pearl stratus]

Orissa Hog Double Sniper.

[proven saddle]

im so full of 2-2-2 rolelock videos on youtube, please not here

[pearl stratus]

It'll be visually orgasmic.

Perfect gameplay.

[normal fractal]

bunker sniper

everyone dies instantly

healers might as well just feed

[pearl stratus]

If that happens we'll probably get an Orissa nerf after all her buffs.

Which would be ironic.

[normal fractal]

then welcome back to Dive

we 2017 bois

[tawny sigil]

is the gladiator guy the guy that had the bottle of water attached everywhere?

[normal fractal]

(i don't think Dive will make a comeback now that more dps than just tracer and genji are decent)

[pearl stratus]

I think that was a different guy

[normal fractal]

good luck diving McHanzo

with his fan the arrows

[pearl stratus]

I don't think dive makes a huge comeback because the armor changes nerfed Dive more than Goats.

Which most people didn't realize.

[normal fractal]

oh, Torb too

[pearl stratus]

Torbs fine with his right click nerf.

[normal fractal]

i'm talking vs. someone like Winston

with Overload and 150 armor he's just a brick wall

[proven saddle]

just nerf sombra's tp

please

[pearl stratus]

It's more the large increase of damage someone like an Orissa got versus armor, etc.

[plucky rune]

hammond doesn't have much trouble with piledriving them and setting them up for easy shots

[balmy wolf]

i rather nerf her emp radius

[normal fractal]

but who runs as tank along hammond

[proven saddle]

quickplay meta

[plucky rune]

ideally, nobody

sometimes, dva

[normal fractal]

he's best served when he can crack open a team against actual DPS

[pearl stratus]

Orissa picked up something ~35-40% damage increase against armor, which actually makes her pretty decent anti-dive herself.

[normal fractal]

maybe Zarya?

[pearl stratus]

Nah works badly with Orissa.

Orissa + Hog.

[normal fractal]

but she has no mobility

no i'm talking for Ball

[pearl stratus]

Oh, Ball so far works best with a D'va if you have to run an off-tank.

Since its just a modified dive.

[normal fractal]

she'd serve as a fat deeps but, yeah

[pearl stratus]

But its still not great.

[normal fractal]

this feeds back into "2-2-2 just respawns the same problem"

who wants to watch s3 overwatch, poke at the choke until someone instadies sim

[pearl stratus]

I mean there's people who like watching double sniper.

[dapper lantern]

I love this map

[normal fractal]

i still think hero bans are near-mandatory

every other comp game has them at this point

[pearl stratus]

There's not enough heroes for it yet.

[balmy wolf]

^

[normal fractal]

30->28

[balmy wolf]

u need at least 50

[tawny sigil]

jeff kaplan was a jebait

[normal fractal]

hell, even 26

[pearl stratus]

I don't think anyone disagrees with it, but with how specialized the hero pool is the bans matter more than most games.

[normal fractal]

i'm not saying locked picks like a MOBA or Paladins

though that would be worth its own esport imo

[pearl stratus]

Like Paladins is special ed moba, and half the things overlap hard. Same with LoL.

[normal fractal]

"special ed moba"

it isn't a moba if it doesn't have levels

i think that's the distinction

[pearl stratus]

Either way, its a dumpster game.

For failed fps players.

[normal fractal]

so is goatserwatch

[dapper lantern]

this isn’t like siege where some kits actually fuck with people’s setups

[proven saddle]

at least brig doesn't do that anymore

[pearl stratus]

Once there's more heroes with some overlap, I think banning makes perfect sense.

But balancing around a banning system is obnoxious.

[dapper lantern]

^

[proven saddle]

@pearl stratus i agree, but not yet

[tawny sigil]

is wash gonna equalize?

[plucky rune]

lord forbid we get to play the teamwork comp built around hero synergies in a game about teamwork and hero synergies

[pearl stratus]

Goats?

[dapper lantern]

exactly

[pearl stratus]

You mean goats right.

[plucky rune]

ye

[pearl stratus]

I mean its fine to have, but it was around for way too long.

[normal fractal]

goats is the facecheck comp

[pearl stratus]

Which is why the whiny useless twats got so loud about it.

They'll do the same for the next meta.

[normal fractal]

the only longer meta i've seen is tf2 and that game literally does not get patched

[plucky rune]

yeah, i think overexposure was the problem with it

[pearl stratus]

And the meta after that.

And the meta after that.

And?

The one after that.

[normal fractal]

and even that's changing because they're nixing hero limits

[pearl stratus]

Also, the one after that one.

[normal fractal]

or thinking about it

[dapper lantern]

it’s okay to not be happy with something but the way that people complain about it and latch onto the complaints

[pearl stratus]

Every meta has been cried, whined, and bitched about.

[dapper lantern]

that’s what annoys me

[normal fractal]

did people hate on tripletank?

[plucky rune]

they can't cheer when widow gets clicks so how are they supposed to know when plays are big

[pearl stratus]

People hated on everything.

[normal fractal]

or slambus?

[plucky rune]

slambulance fucking sucked lmao

[pearl stratus]

It's the internet, and they're fans or something

So they bitch a lot.

And Blizzard never once told their player base to shut the fuck up.

Which they should have.

[plucky rune]

it wasn't good enough to get complained about

[balmy wolf]

jeff did on stream once

[normal fractal]

the season before brig was the best IMO

[plucky rune]

the future is now

[pearl stratus]

I remember back in MMO days before it all got casual people complained a raid in FFXIV was too hard.

[normal fractal]

if we got the dps changes we do now and brig never showed up

we might be playing a much better overwatch

[pearl stratus]

And Squaresots press release said "We've looked it over and determined you're all just bad at the game."

[normal fractal]

especially at the OWL level

[pearl stratus]

And that was it.

That was the response.

It was glorious.

[plucky rune]

except deathball would be fucking dead

[proven saddle]

i'd just like if map geometry came more meta relevant

[normal fractal]

fuck deathball

brig could've been an off tank

the heals are half the issue

[pearl stratus]

We honestly just need a Thanos snap on Blizzards playerbase.

[plucky rune]

a pretty shitty off tank

[proven saddle]

that's why anubis and London's map (i forget the name) are so good

[dapper lantern]

I don’t find goats boring, I find teams that obviously can’t run it trying to run it boring. I don’t think it’s a bad comp.

also yeah, thanos snap would be nice

[pearl stratus]

Goats is fine, the league parity was the problem.

2 teams that can play Goats.

18 teams that are garbage at it.

[normal fractal]

she could've kept the DPS if she didn't lucio heal her whole team

[pearl stratus]

It's like watching a toddler fight a grown man.

[tawny sigil]

like houston fighting vancouver and shock using goats?

[balmy wolf]

back in stage 2 and 1 yes

[pearl stratus]

The teams this season are noticeably worse than the last one, in terms of parity top to bottom.

Like noticeable as hell.

[plucky rune]

watching a fully grown man punt a toddler across a football field is a pretty accurate way to describe washington vs sanfran

[normal fractal]

but then she's 400 hp roadhog with a shield and i don't think that'd be very engaging

[pearl stratus]

My favorite example is Fusion.

[dapper lantern]

Philadelphia is horrible at it

[pearl stratus]

Philly when the meta requires just Carpe popping off and no teamwork - Does okay.

Philly requires teamwork? LITERALLY TRASH.

[plucky rune]

hey

sometimes eqo popped off

[balmy wolf]

philly only shines somewhat on a dps meta

[proven saddle]

as hex said before, it's all about the identity of the team, you can clearly notice Vancouver because bumper is being really agressive, aswell you can differentiate Hunter's and every other team running hammond

[pearl stratus]

Yeah, they weren't even consistent on that.

[proven saddle]

teams like Defiant doesn't have an identity

[pearl stratus]

Then you want them to play the most teamwork oriented comp in the game?

[balmy wolf]

they'll get outclassed by actual coordinated teams

[pearl stratus]

Rip Philly.

[plucky rune]

but for the most part the entirety of season 1 owl was summarized by the one clip of the philly 2v5

[balmy wolf]

and the finals

[dapper lantern]

Oh my god

that was so stupid

[balmy wolf]

profit almost capping volks by himself

[dapper lantern]

I hate Washington

[plucky rune]

lord forbid teamwork in the teamwork game

[tawny sigil]

muma laughing?... no please i dont want to see those 10 feet long gums

[pearl stratus]

Plus to be fair in terms of dps Zarya does more damage/10 than any of the dps ever did 😉

[dapper lantern]

Zarya can melt like a hot knife through butter.

[balmy wolf]

didnt carpe did like 60k damage in 1 series?

[pearl stratus]

You realize both SMS and Sinatraa broke 100k, right?

On Zarya.

[balmy wolf]

oh wait im thinking early in the season

[pearl stratus]

Zarya is obviously the ideal dps

[proven saddle]

@dapper lantern so zarya was the one behind all those videos

[balmy wolf]

cant believe sinatraa built a grav in 20 seconds one time

[dapper lantern]

What videos?

Oh my god

those stupid 1000 degree ones?

stop it

[pearl stratus]

Plus, I like that it took people a stage or two but they're finding weaknesses in Titans and Shock when they force them to swap.

Shock literally can't play Sombra Goats.

It's a huge weakness.

[silent cliff]

somBRA is A CrutCH

[dapper lantern]

I adore Zarya but I hate playing her. Only if I know my healers will actually have my back.

[pearl stratus]

Super can fuck off with his giant premie baby forehead.

He could grind out a new hero walking between his eyebrows and his hair line.

[dapper lantern]

he has one of the most annoying voices I’ve ever heard

[pearl stratus]

I got a ten minute time out from Avasts stream for making fun of him getting Bumper'd by Ameng.

Salty little kid.

[balmy wolf]

his winston is just soo.... bad compare to his rein

[pearl stratus]

If the meta shifts he's not making OWWC unless Aero is an idiot.

Which he is.

So he'll still probably make it.

[proven saddle]

@dapper lantern the hot knife cutting things videos

[pearl stratus]

FCT or Muma both play every other tank better Super minus Rein.

[dapper lantern]

I don’t expect much from Team USA. Again.

[balmy wolf]

but rein probs aint gonna be meta that much later on

[pearl stratus]

Once Aero was coach I stopped caring

[balmy wolf]

at least harsha is in the coaching team

[pearl stratus]

I've seen how the Fuel play.

I'm expecting lots of memes and trash.

Then horrible failure.

[balmy wolf]

remember aero talk bout his anti goats strat?

[pearl stratus]

Since Fuel loses teamfights when the enemy EMP's the fucking sky.

They lose a team fight against Chengdu when Chengdu landed a 0 man EMP.

That's literally all you have to know about the fuel.

[dapper lantern]

goddamn it, washington

[pearl stratus]

This stage is weird.

[tawny sigil]

easy win

[pearl stratus]

Houston was always trash at Eich.

Now they suddenly can play it.

[balmy wolf]

idk the fuel have like no moral guidance on the stage

[proven saddle]

that 0 man emp was actually a zoning ult kappa

[dapper lantern]

I think Uber said it

[pearl stratus]

Best part?

YXL did it against versus the Shock.

He's gotten two zero man EMP's.

And in both situations they won the series.

So apparently YXL knows something we don't.

[dapper lantern]

But one of the casters mentioned that Dallas looked like they play individually and not together.

[balmy wolf]

no duh

[pearl stratus]

They look like they have no coaching.

[dapper lantern]

Which makes a lot of sense because they sure as hell don’t use teamwork

[pearl stratus]

There's been absolutely no improvement on the players overall.

[balmy wolf]

there is always a disconnection between their tankline and backline

[pearl stratus]

But thats what happens when you pick popular coaches, with no experience.

[dapper lantern]

Sometimes a play will happen but then they do something stupid immediately after which leads me to believe that that previous play was coincidence

[pearl stratus]

Jaynes only experience coaching was an OD team from Australia.

That never won a SINGLE map

Great resume.

Good hire Aero.

[proven saddle]

and team canada

[dapper lantern]

And they always go into a match believing that they’ll lose instead of fighting for a win. So yeah, doomed from the start.

[proven saddle]

where can i buy Uber shirts?

[balmy wolf]

and aero has a problem with favoritism

[dapper lantern]

also fuck zach

[balmy wolf]

no way zach should've been the flex dps

[pearl stratus]

Also fun story.

[dapper lantern]

just had to throw that in there

[pearl stratus]

The OD team fired Jayne/dropped Jayne whatever.

Then immediate went 9-5 the next season.

[proven saddle]

honestly, i don't think it's his fault anymore

[dapper lantern]

Your team is only as good as its coaching.

[supple prism]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SBHG5H5/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_U_x_AfVfDbQZD9PT5

[dapper lantern]

Stratus lmao

they’re just saying fuck it

[balmy wolf]

when a team is doing this bad with average players, its mostly the coaches fault

[pearl stratus]

I called it from last season.

Teams are looking for the wrong types of coaches.

Strategic coaches don't mean shit if you don't have the proper development support.

Get a development coach.

[proven saddle]

don't get me wrong, zach is awfull but it's not the player fault if they keep playing this bad and the do anything

[pearl stratus]

They're the unsung hero in almost every sport.

[silent cliff]

have taimou on brig for the love of GOd

[proven saddle]

that's coache´s fault

[pearl stratus]

You have your RUI, your Dpei, Crusty, etc.

Notice how their players basically evolve

[dapper lantern]

You need a coach that actually will work and support the fucking team, not just drill strategies and plays into their heads and then push them out onto the stage.

[pearl stratus]

RUI I think is the goat of development.

Dude gets so much value out of his players.

[proven saddle]

also is really unlicky Note- rck trade, now that dva is falling out the meta

[pearl stratus]

Note has a decent Zarya though.

They're just not rotating properly.

[balmy wolf]

note's zarya is better then akm imo

[pearl stratus]

AKM's is more damage, Notes is better bubbles.

But ideally you want a Chengdu like line up.

Their 6 people can play like every comp with no switches.

Elsa covers half the damn hero pool himself.

Their current roster can play two variations of Sombra goats because YXL and Elsa can rotate.

[balmy wolf]

if only fuel had actual flex players on their roster

[proven saddle]

yeah the hunters got the hero pool very covered and well organized

[pearl stratus]

Hunters, LAG, LAV and Shanghai.

All have really flexible rosters.

[proven saddle]

it's like Titans where you, either have Seominsoo as a good sombra or as an Awsome zarya

[dapper lantern]

I feel bad for some of these guys. The burnout is happening faster than it should be. Losses are inevitable but some teams just...lose. That’s demoralizing. Then you have fan feedback and others just ride benches for entire seasons. Get some better coaches and work with the teams more rather than just hoping for the best.

[pearl stratus]

Titans are too reliant on Jjanu though

Thats their weakness.