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#esports-discussion
little silo
tawny sigil
welcome to america
little silo
and hes gonna swear in cockney
balmy wolf
that last fight was so clutch
fusions with the grav shatter and rck emping just in time
minor flame
not for long at this rate
raw ermine
I'll take it
balmy wolf
oof eternal are facing seoul for their final game
tawny sigil
big today day today man
"dramatization"
must not forget that small text on screen
look look, we're gonna see it again now i can analize it a bit
there you have it
mah boy linkzr, they finally let him play some dps
mayhem play and everone is gone
little silo
surprise
tawny sigil
stick with me guyz come on
tawny sigil
houston is gonna lose
dapper lantern
I’m here but I’m just not talking
proven saddle
LUL
balmy wolf
is it possible for outlaws to get into into play in matches?
tawny sigil
what?
little silo
Place 7-12
proven saddle
@balmy wolf for stage 3 yes, very possible
balmy wolf
not taking about stage playoffs
proven saddle
overall playoff not really
balmy wolf
then again going 0-7 basically does ruin their chances
tawny sigil
!schedule
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
tawny sigil
stomp and stomp left
great
better get another upset
beautiful, this is gonna be a great hour and a half
proven saddle
houston is just testing
tawny sigil
not gonna try to imagine where that comes from
tropic herald
SCRIM GOD
raw ermine
this is chaos
proven saddle
hagopeun deserves better
raw ermine
finally
tropic herald
Well at least Florida look better for next season
proven saddle
cannot look any worse anyway
tropic herald
Well a few of their plays look promising but Houston just denies them
balmy wolf
is mayhem waiting for their new players to come into the US?
tropic herald
Yeah
echo quest
Fate will leave that shitshow at the end of the season
tropic herald
Doubtful, the Mayhem roster doesn't look too bad with the incoming platyers
but currently Mayhem is a shitshow
echo quest
his contract is up. Mayhem is a cheapass org also soooo
tropic herald
Well Mayhem looks not terrible on double sniper so thats something
echo quest
he would be a great fit for seoul. Elite tank that is passive
tropic herald
he would but Seoul already has 2 nice main tanks
proven saddle
why do zen/ana mains flex on roadhog?
tropic herald
Bc flex support
echo quest
I mean the thing with Marvel is he gets outclassed. And fissure doesnt fit their style so they play marvel instead
tawny sigil
cause you snap a healer for self sustain
proven saddle
but would have more sense that the dva player flexes on road?
tropic herald
idk what you mean but Marve1 has similar stats as Fissure and he takes less resources
echo quest
no
tawny sigil
then you have no dva
echo quest
@tropic herald what I mean is that he loses the tank battle against elite main tanks. He got out played by Guxue yesterday for example
tropic herald
okay well im not saying Marve1 is the best but he is a safer bet for Seoul to play
tawny sigil
mayhem is gonna win
echo quest
forsure
proven saddle
surefour
echo quest
sucks seeing someone like fissure on the bench tho
tropic herald
Yeah Fissure is nice but its not his meta
echo quest
team doesnt fit him either
tropic herald
Unless you have support like Titans or Shock you really can't afford to play that aggressive
drowsy fulcrum
wait how did that hook not hook
echo quest
saya on widow
tropic herald
Wow hago is popping
tropic herald
No
dapper lantern
🤔
echo quest
xepher looks so shocked that they won lmao
tropic herald
It would be a power move if Mayhem won this
calm holly
They really shouldn't
dim raptor
how do the outlaws beat shock but lose a map to the mayhem
midnight sage
Shit I am late. What have I missed with Outlaws so far other than 1-1
dapper lantern
what are these clips
visual glen
wtf is this segment
midnight sage
How have the Outlaws been playing so far?
dapper lantern
one of the worst
tawny sigil
those fans, some of them will end up on florida_man__ twitter at some point in their life
raw ermine
Quality, not quantity
dim raptor
imagine if mayhem actually beat the outlaws
tawny sigil
totally possible
dim raptor
but highly unlikely
tawny sigil
houston is probably still preping for shock and vancouver everyday all day
gaunt acorn
let them try
tawny sigil
"if we win vancouver and shock, we win every team" -Flames' logic i'm sure
hollyweed
DEJA VU, i've just been in this place before!
Fate lasted 2 lost fight, impressive
jake gold
visual glen
Fate is pressuring the backline so hard 
dapper lantern
he’s so good
tropic herald
Mayhem looks so much better playing dps
tawny sigil
every fucking losing team look better on dps
tropic herald
oh my god Saya is a carry
proven saddle
Damn saya is on fire
tawny sigil
and you guys call uberX the best commentator
tropic herald
Mayhem needs to get off goats
tawny sigil
talking about bren drafran while the fight is happening
dapper lantern
no one has ever said that 🤔
everyone usually says wolf and achillios
tawny sigil
i hear everyone say uberX are the best, i i think they are worse thna sexler
visual glen
Sexler is worse
tawny sigil
achillios and wolf are on a totally different level then any other caster
visual glen
I swear at times it feels like Sexler is just killfeed reading
supple prism
who?
dapper lantern
semmler and hexagrams
tawny sigil
also known as sexler
supple prism
i dont even think either of them play
little silo
at times they dont talk about whats going on at all
tawny sigil
commentators
little silo
Like Haksal will get a 3k nanoblade and they keep talking about random stuff
supple prism
but i mute the game and have Avast running
Avast and gang are significantly better at predicting whats going to happen
tawny sigil
why does contender have better caster them OWL
feels like OWL was looking for personalities over skilled caster
little silo
OWL casters have to cater to a different audience
the variety in commentary styles means they want to speak to as many people as possible
tawny sigil
i guess
little silo
They cant only focus on the game they also have to entertain
dapper lantern
yeah, you guys have to realize that not everyone that watches owl actually plays. we all do obviously but that’s not always the case.
little silo
and not every game gives you opportunities to constantly create hype
tawny sigil
i think sexler is fine for entertainment personnaly
little silo
no
supple prism
but real sports have better
little silo
Real sports is worse
supple prism
really?
little silo
real sports commentators basically just call whats going on in the moment
esports casting is a bit more complicated
tawny sigil
and talk about their life problems randomly 
little silo
if you want it to be good at least
tawny sigil
mayhem 1 map away
dapper lantern
b r u h
little silo
wow
echo quest
Fate
tawny sigil
bruh indeed
echo quest
naisuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
raw ermine
^
tawny sigil
mayhem?
little silo
Mayhem still Pepega tier or Houston back in
raw ermine
That would be hilarious
tropic herald
2-16 pray
jade storm
Jeeeeez
dapper lantern
yes, fuck outlaws man
raw ermine
beats the best, and loses to the worst
proven saddle
atlanta style
raw ermine
Yep
tawny sigil
you homophob?
dim raptor
O_O
tropic herald
Mayhem hasn't looked terrible thought tbh
pearl stratus
I mean Houston isn't playing -badly- though.
Thats Atlantas style.
Is that they'll play like shit.
Houston is still making proper plays, just so is Florida.
tropic herald
Houston is opting to play GOATS even though they are clearly worse
echo quest
Xepher is cashing in those scrim bucks
tropic herald
I mean now that he has competition for a starting spot eh might actually try
pearl stratus
That was a realistic rotation to Goats though. It was the best available counter to what Florida was playing since A->C on Hollywood is mediocre af for Dive, especially post armor changes.
Which is the only other thing you'd run with Saya playing that hot on Widow.
proven saddle
LONG HAVE WE WAITED, SAYA ACTIVATED
tropic herald
They finally let him play widow
little silo
but Brig
tropic herald
Jake oh boy
tawny sigil
they're gone
little silo
i kinda want mayhem to win this
tawny sigil
that cart is not stoping to anyone
tawny sigil
man do we have people carring for a mayhem match now?
dapper lantern
^
little silo
The people who make power rankingsare screaming rn
pearl stratus
Depends which people.
tropic herald
That trans was niceeeee
pearl stratus
The Downsy ones? Probably screaming.
But those people literally never matter.
But like ex player power rankings? They'll actually understand whats happening overall.
tawny sigil
going toward a map 5
pearl stratus
Great beat.
They Florida played that perfectly minus Xepher staying up top too long.
balmy wolf
why did bqb switch last moment
proven saddle
they need to play sombra
pearl stratus
The second Xepher dipped out because of his health Linkzr dropped the Grav.
balmy wolf
i mean he had grav though
pearl stratus
Because Zarya is slow
And wouldn't make it back in time in most situations.
Especially with Danteh holding that EMP.
If Xepher had given up high ground earlier he could have delayed Linkzr's Grav more.
upper niche
aha what, current score??! (just tuned in)
How funny would it be if Florida win this?
tropic herald
I mean Florida have a really good shot ar it
midnight sage
Outlaws were doing so well. And they are going to blow it with Mayhem
echo quest
kris ...
tropic herald
Jake...
upper niche
All we need next is for LAV to beat VAN
tawny sigil
its about to happen boiz
tropic herald
Jake is feeding off cooldown
balmy wolf
no way
tawny sigil
keep on hating haters, cause its working
clear crane
is this really happeninggg
dim raptor
im bout to eat my words
pearl stratus
Nah Florida still has an 80% chance to win.
balmy wolf
linkzr has grav
pearl stratus
They're just playing really cleanly. Replacing Xepher with Gargoyle and you're set.
raw ermine
huge shatter
clear crane
wait wtf
jade storm
Bruuuuuuuh hooooooooow
clear crane
they got the checkpoint?
tawny sigil
SHEEE NAN!!
pearl stratus
Yeah
dim raptor
wow
gaunt acorn
florida THROW
pearl stratus
Everyone went after Linkzr.
raw ermine
no way
gaunt acorn
THROW THROW THROW
jade storm
Right
pearl stratus
And the cart went over.
raw ermine
sdfbhfdldbczjfh fd
tropic herald
This is such a roller coaster
clear crane
LOLLL
raw ermine
HOW
pearl stratus
Only saving grace is Linkzr rebuilt a grav.
gaunt acorn
$100 PAYPAL HAS BEEN DEPOSITED INTO FATE'S ACCOUNT
tawny sigil
The emotions are high today
raw ermine
In the final moments, florida still messes up
proven saddle
BQB wastin gravs
upper niche
Houston will get this one... it'll be game 5.
jade storm
LMAO
gaunt acorn
PLEASE KILL LINKZR PLEASE
pearl stratus
Houston should not take this one, but Linkzr apparently decided to be insane.
tropic herald
NOOOOO
jade storm
Good God
jade storm
Linkzr decided to take his head out of ass?
gaunt acorn
THREW IT DOWN THE TOILET
raw ermine
Fate (not the player) has cursed Florida to lose
pearl stratus
Huge purple
clear crane
LMFAOOOOOOOO
raw ermine
WHy
jade storm
WOAH
gaunt acorn
visual glen
wtf is this match
raw ermine
WHAt
balmy wolf
WOWOWO
clear crane
LMFAOOOOOOO
jade storm
WOWOWOWOWOWOWOOWOW
tropic herald
WHAT THE
south brook
Whattt
drowsy fulcrum
man video games are cool
upper niche
haha WOW
gaunt acorn
WOW
cloud latch
W
south brook
POG
dapper lantern
oh
clear crane
HAHAHAHAHA
cloud latch
T
echo quest
xepher is the goat
cloud latch
H
dapper lantern
my
raw ermine
WTF
tawny sigil
2 WTF match in a row
dapper lantern
god
gaunt acorn
???????
raw ermine
JESUS
drowsy fulcrum
galaxy brain bastion
dim raptor
OH GOD
upper niche
ROFL that Bastion
tropic herald
YESSSSS
gaunt acorn
jade storm
What a king
raw ermine
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHJAHHAHA
uneven wren
WOOOOOOOO
dim raptor
I WAS SO WRONG
supple prism
the emp was too short
raw ermine
gaunt acorn
lmfao.
tawny sigil
look at them just stand there
raw ermine
.HAH
trim shadow
HOLY FUCK
raw ermine
Bastion OP
drowsy fulcrum
Outlaws win against Shock and lose against Mayhem in the same stage
trim shadow
What was that
upper niche
Who was on Bastion??
dreamy cave
yoo
clear crane
xepher
supple prism
could have had a chance if emp hit bastion
jade storm
I can’t breathe that was hilarious
clear crane
wen he brought out that bastion holy fuck
gaunt acorn
SCRIM GOD
proven saddle
outplayed by bastion
south brook
Bahaha
clear crane
tat was so funny
raw ermine
EZ clap
south brook
Ok valiant it’s your turn
tropic herald
SCRIM GOD XEPHER
dreamy cave
they didnt get the bastion with the emp
gaunt acorn
🙏 THANK YOU SCRIM GOD 🙏
jade storm
It was EMP bastion or Wrecking ball
tawny sigil
who's the hater now?
raw ermine
HOUSTON LOSE TO MAYHEM, BEATS SHOCK
drowsy fulcrum
linkzr is so sad
vagrant niche
you got to do what you got to do to win
raw ermine
HOW
pearl stratus
You -had- to peel off point to deal with the Bastion.
drowsy fulcrum
MAYHEM > OUTLAWS > SHOCK
jade storm
Jake is bad at brig there I said it
dapper lantern
👀👀👀👀👀
pearl stratus
Nah not sad.
raw ermine
WAIT
tropic herald
Jake was basically the reason they los
pearl stratus
That was well played.
balmy wolf
That bastion pick was top tier
pearl stratus
It wasn't like Atlanta losing to LAV.
upper niche
I mean Doom vs Dva on point, trying to deal with a Bastion on flank. Daaaaaaym
raw ermine
DIDN'T THE SHOCK JUST BEAT MAYHEM
so mayhem beat houston, houston beat shock, and shock beat mayhem
supple prism
yes
raw ermine
BRUH
supple prism
4-0
upper niche
@raw ermine Tautologies are a thing 😄
supple otter
That was what we call in the fight world, a barnburner
raw ermine
XD
pearl stratus
You had Sayaplayer carrying the shit out of Florida on Hollywood, Linkzr attempting to carry on Gibraltar.
proven saddle
It was so close
jade storm
Outlaws just can’t finish a map
pearl stratus
It was just a good game across the board.
balmy wolf
that was crazy
proven saddle
Bqb wasted a lot of gravs on gibraltar
echo quest
Mayhem played great
clear crane
doesnt fate know english well
supple otter
Im an Outlaws fan but holy hell that was an amazing map
dreamy cave
yo they may never win a a game again in a while. that took all there energy for the rest of the stage
pearl stratus
Mayhem played out of their mind, no disrespect with that loss.
echo quest
Hago,Fate and Saya were pog
jade storm
Linkzr did all that work smh
pearl stratus
People always underestimate the shit out of Hago.
The dudes always had good stats.
echo quest
ye he was smurfing in contenders
steep cedar
jesus mayhem with the clutch
tawny sigil
houston was not ready for bastion
pearl stratus
He was ridiculous in Contenders.
clear crane
Hago has always been good
pearl stratus
He just shit on kids.
steep cedar
HOUSTON OUTLAWS FOREVER YEEYEE
tawny sigil
i was not ready for bastion, were you?
clear crane
wasnt he the flex support for the original GC Busan?
tawny sigil
2 upset in a row
tawny sigil
lets got for a 3rd
proven saddle
MAYHEM > OUTLAWS > SHOCK > TITANS
balmy wolf
good shit florida
clear crane
dont think bdsoin was ever on tat team
pearl stratus
Mayhem, out of Houstons last four games, played best against the EMP too.
tropic herald
The fact that mayhem aren't out of playoffs yet
pearl stratus
Which is what mattered the most.
balmy wolf
xepher with that bastion pick tho
tropic herald
Redemption arc coming for Mayhem
pearl stratus
Mayhem did a seriously good job dealing with the EMP.
Hago averaging ~50s trans helps with that.
raw ermine
Xepher Big brain
jade storm
Lmao that’s amazing
sinful heron
If they chased him at the start and finished he wouldn't have been Bastion for like 7 more seconds
tropic herald
Hago Pog
pearl stratus
He got demeched though, didn't he?
echo quest
@clear crane I meant on london
sinful heron
Yeah
raw ermine
I wanted xepher to charge tank mode
pearl stratus
Yeah, so its also the right call to ignore him
proven saddle
Honestly i think it's more danteh's fault
raw ermine
the ultimate meme
pearl stratus
It's one of those situations
sinful heron
He got Demeched and ran back as baby dva
pearl stratus
It was the right call till it was the wrong call
sinful heron
No no I mean before, they take the mech to like 10%
midnight sage
Jesus, fucking Outlaws always know how to blow it
sinful heron
And let him over extend without punishing
tawny sigil
you blew it
balmy wolf
i seriously thought boink's barrier would clutch it out
raw ermine
I thought that was florida's job to blow it
vagrant niche
lets go, time for the stomp or a big upset
pearl stratus
Barrier is good, but its not 'Deal with a Bastion' good lol
dim raptor
i wish titans would lose for once
sinful heron
They got so close to holding too
tawny sigil
is it me or they stopped giving out thunder sticks?
pearl stratus
The only thing they could have done different was getting the sleep onto the Bastion
vagrant niche
no they still have them
coral copper
IM SO BAD
vagrant niche
i saw them yesterday
proven saddle
or a hack on the bastion
coral copper
MAD
pearl stratus
Can't hack.
sinful heron
Tbf running Doomfist into Bastion is just a sad situation
tawny sigil
or they started selling them instead of giving them out maybe?
echo quest
Mayhem is the best team in the league since they beat the outlaws
pearl stratus
There was never a point where they had the people on cart to leave the cart to get close enough
echo quest
ez clap
pearl stratus
Doom makes sense for the run back
proven saddle
why not? danteh even used emp
trim shadow
pearl stratus
Because it was more than 10 seconds into overtime.
Leaving the cart for even a second means you lose.
And you couldn't hack him from the cart.
raw ermine
My reaction to florida winning
pearl stratus
At the point you're thinking it was Boink v. Danteh.
proven saddle
danteh wasnt even in the cart tho
echo quest
Muma: "actually, I remember one time we were throwing against Florida Mayhem, and it was 2-1 to Mayhem, and Jake said:
"Guys, if you think we are good, let's prove it now'. 2-3"
Jake: "did we comeback?"
Muma: "of course not. 3-1."
proven saddle
well, whatever
pearl stratus
Xepher positioned nearly perfectly, probably from experience.
Just outside of EMP range, and far enough away you had to dip to get to him.
sinful heron
Yeah don't underestimate how well that Bastion positioning was
proven saddle
they noticed the bastion too late anyway
balmy wolf
there was cover on his left side as well
tropic herald
Today is upset day, so we pray
raw ermine
"hey, where is this damage coming from?"
pearl stratus
He was behind boxes, from their position.
I'd gaurantee that 100%
If you go to the replay viewer.
trim shadow
Wolf casting skills were put to the test in that last moment
balmy wolf
but yea that bastion pick saved the game
trim shadow
Or was that achilios?
trim shadow
Ah
proven saddle
yeah, it was a good play and a good position, but a better team could have punished it
balmy wolf
uber went rap god mode
dreamy cave
what were todays first 2 matches?
vagrant niche
Dallas vs Fuel
proven saddle
@balmy wolf that's why it's my av caster
supple prism
lol
vagrant niche
Boston vs someone else
lunar blade
balmy wolf
boston with that reverse sweep
vagrant niche
boston with paris
tropic herald
This could be another fun match
balmy wolf
@lunar blade check the OWL site
vagrant niche
i mean it's going to go 2 ways
balmy wolf
all matches are there
echo quest
4-0
dreamy cave
i want upset
balmy wolf
either close match or stomp is how im seeing it
tropic herald
I don't think this will be a stomp
proven saddle
@balmy wolf boston it's like that guy that doesnt pay attetion all the semester but barely pass the exam
tropic herald
LAV have looks very good so far
balmy wolf
kariv popping off
echo quest
Vancouver 28-0 lets go
balmy wolf
ALSO WOLF AND ACHILLOS ARE CASTING A TITAN MATCH
pearl stratus
35 sleeps? Thats insane RHJ numbers.
pearl stratus
They're both good Zens, they just play differently. But on Ana Kariv is much stronger.
tropic herald
FCTFCTN and shax look like chads
balmy wolf
iza just needs to synergy
pearl stratus
If LAV was a more aggressive team Izayaki would fit in better.
raw ermine
tf is this montage?
sinful heron
That was a strange one
trim shadow
Kariv peetry much activatd striker mode
sinful heron
I guess they have some good ults?
proven saddle
at leas LAV has a good intro
trim shadow
Kariv is probably begging to ply widow again
pearl stratus
Also props to KSF.
dapper lantern
minsoo is such a snack
vagrant niche
omg it's the black lady i can hear her screaming on the mics already
pearl stratus
And KSF really got the better of him on Dorado.
vagrant niche
not like this
pearl stratus
So KSF earned that.
supple prism
3-1
minor flame
wait wait florida beat houston????
pearl stratus
Florida played like a real team for the first time this season.
balmy wolf
Florida won
minor flame
?????????????????
trim shadow
That fucked houstons stage playoffs tbh
minor flame
HOW THE FUCK DID
pearl stratus
They played DPS, and Saya went bananas.
trim shadow
Words cant describe
pearl stratus
It wasn't Houston playing badly, it was Florida playing amazingly.
vagrant niche
tbh it was close to the wire
sinful heron
Florida did play really well
tropic herald
Kariv sleeps the competition
trim shadow
Suprised ppl forgot saya is a dps god
sinful heron
900IQ Bastion at the end
echo quest
xepher played great
sinful heron
Just 10/10
pearl stratus
It was to the wire for a game 5.
balmy wolf
seriously go watch that match in its entirety
sinful heron
Great game
vagrant niche
if xepher didn't clutched
sinful heron
Go watch
vagrant niche
it would had continued
balmy wolf
then xepher clutched
minor flame
Florida is out of pepega tier
pearl stratus
Final fight of Hollywood too, really.
minor flame
confirmed
pearl stratus
None of the maps were blow outs, overall.
trim shadow
I need to hear the comms on ginatraltar for florida
sinful heron
"GO BASTION GO"
tropic herald
Florida actually Pog for once
sinful heron
Big Pog
pearl stratus
Xepher cashed in all his scrim bucks for a perfect bastion swap and positioning.
Four years worth of scrim bucks
raw ermine
lmfao SMS on soldier
pearl stratus
Gone.
vagrant niche
OMG why do they put the freaking mics on this game so close to the front rows?
tropic herald
Holy Crap Twighlight
dim raptor
the audience just screams really loud
pearl stratus
@minor flame Highlights are: Hollywood for a Widow clinic by Saya, Gibraltar for a Zarya clinic by Linkzr.
sinful heron
Watching OWL players on Soldier just remind me how bad I am on Soldier
pearl stratus
Also tangent but as much as Jake overextends on Brig, which I won't argue (since he plays it too aggressively still)
He actually is a respectable DPS again.
sinful heron
100% agree
pearl stratus
Which he hasn't looked like in a long time
sinful heron
He takes that like, two steps too far on Brig
And then he's out of the line and gets picked
coral copper
.
pearl stratus
He chases low health more aggressively than his tank line.
tropic herald
Kariv
pearl stratus
And if it pays off, its good, but a lot of time it gets Brig packed.
And then he's feeding.
It's a fine line.
raw ermine
NA Barrage
pearl stratus
Like he's not as bad as Zacharee.
But he's not a Rascal.
Zacharee gets on a boat and takes a trip to Africa with his overextension.
raw ermine
Nice sleeps too
tropic herald
Kariv sleeps Pog
raw ermine
Bumper is sleeping again?
vagrant niche
he's like Ryujehong good
gaunt acorn
sleepy baby
raw ermine
he got slept twice in a row
vagrant niche
he killed a crapton of people there
trim shadow
Seominsoo black hair hello?
vagrant niche
i'm impressed
trim shadow
Doing a kaneki?
echo quest
@minor flame relatively easy for titans
proven saddle
seominsoo look so different without the glasses
dreamy cave
kariv is playing like he wants ppl to go into permanent comas
pearl stratus
Honestly most people who are good at Zen usually have a better Ana.
Because most of the time Ana is 100% more fun to play.
So they practice it more lol
tropic herald
LAV looks really good rn but Titans is just better
minor island
bro people making fun of me for liking nyxl 
dapper lantern
🤔
sinful heron
Crack out the Doomer
fresh stratus
valiants comp is rlly bothering me haha
pearl stratus
Eh you're fine liking them now.
minor island
i dont bandwagon tho
pearl stratus
But they're not like "Impossible to beat good" anymore
minor island
i love jjonak no homo and the team as well
dreamy cave
nyxl is my team
proven saddle
i mean that ana it's more fun than zen
pearl stratus
Most of the supports I know tend to prefer playing Ana more, minus the lack of mobility.
proven saddle
nyxl is my city
pearl stratus
Mostly because Sleep dart is the most broken thing in the world.
proven saddle
there are more broken things than sleep dart
pearl stratus
But its a high skill mechanic so its all good.
tropic herald
Sleep dart is not broken lol
raw ermine
EMP, inspire, DM
sinful heron
LAV used so many ults that did nothing
hidden vault
Most supports
pearl stratus
I'll agree with DM.
hidden vault
Minus jjonak
pearl stratus
Since the other two are ults, so that goes a separate category for me.
proven saddle
Mei as a whole too
vagrant niche
omg
minor island
dm?
visual glen
lul
sinful heron
NICE PUNCH
raw ermine
Inspire isn't an ult
pearl stratus
Defense Matrix.
minor island
oh
pearl stratus
Oh you mean Brigs heal?
raw ermine
yeah
minor island
broken as in trash?
pearl stratus
That's not OP at all imo.
dreamy cave
1 punch still works
tropic herald
DM is just broken in all
raw ermine
Thats where a lot of goats healing comes from
pearl stratus
Yeah, but remove her from Goats and how good is Inspire.
Sleep Dart is good no matter whats going on.
tropic herald
Thats the problem with brig
proven saddle
unpopular opinion, sobra tp is even more broken than hack
pearl stratus
I think hack is more broken just because its not consistent in its application.
But I agree the relocate is ridiculous now with its cleanse.
vagrant niche
i love brig, she's my fav healer, but i really hate how much hate she has gotten and she's shit now when i play her
but knowing bliz they wont touch her anymore cause the community hates her
specially pro players
proven saddle
Sombra tp let you be so agressive and makes you really hard to punish
pearl stratus
I'd like hack to be given a more consistent ruleset. Not changed entirely but just made consistent.
dreamy cave
i think ppl just dont ike ppl who can stop others ults
tawny sigil
damn
raw ermine
oh crap
raw ermine
Nice
gaunt acorn
POG
tropic herald
I think infinite invisible is a little broken
fresh stratus
dang
upper niche
sadface
gaunt acorn
raw ermine
Thats why they are the titans
echo quest
ez clap
fresh stratus
😦
pearl stratus
It's broken for ladder more than Pro. It's a hard balance.
uneven wren
huge clutch
balmy wolf
they couldn't kill them fast enough
uneven wren
by the whole team
dreamy cave
that was not a ez clap
pearl stratus
Because if you notice pro play they typically know the Sombra routes, etc.
echo quest
YO why does seominsoo look so different
dreamy cave
they could have lost that
trim shadow
Yep 
28-0 team
dapper lantern
hair and glasses will do that to you
balmy wolf
focus fire was piss poor from LA
visual glen
if valiant focused targets that last fight maybe they could've won
dapper lantern
just like jehong always looks different depending on his haircuts
gaunt acorn
ksf did alright
proven saddle
@echo quest no glasses and different hair style
pearl stratus
But I don't get why hack disables some movement, but not others, makes Lucio forget what music is, etc.
The consistency between heroes isn't there, and is often illogical.
echo quest
Not a hard map for Titans
sinful heron
I thought the idea was it disabled all electrical systems, like Doomfist's hand, Lucio's speaker system(?), Soldier's Legs.
proven saddle
that's because EMP disables pasive abilities too
sinful heron
I think hack is just a little oppressive
pearl stratus
Its the passives that don't have consistency, however.
Because some passives aren't hacked.
It's only passives that come from the requirement of a button press.
sinful heron
Oh I see
pearl stratus
So like Genji forgets how to climb walls because you have to hit space.
proven saddle
is mercy passive get hacked too?
pearl stratus
No.
gloomy idol
R.I.P Outlaws
upper niche
Where do I get one of those embroidered LAV patches the players have on the right sleeve?
pearl stratus
Neither does Inspire (though thats primarily from it being a 5 second heal buff, too)
proven saddle
i know double jumps hare hacked too
pearl stratus
Yeah, you have to press space for the second jump 😛
proven saddle
but you can't while hacked
pearl stratus
Exactly. Passive with button press, turned off. Passive with no input required, not turned off.
tawny sigil
oh man i am so bummed that the winston oathlaw lost. #freelinkzr 
proven saddle
and hanzo it's not really a passive anymore, since it have could down
supple prism
what
minor flame
imagine
supple prism
his passive is unchanged
minor flame
the best matches of the day
pearl stratus
I don't like the distinction between active passives and passive passives (if that makes sense)
minor flame
was fl v houston
pearl stratus
It's illogical to me.
Especially for poor Lucio, who technically has passive passives in songs.
But the crossfade is tied to making the passive an active passive.
Which is why he loses music too.
raw ermine
Haksal blade lul
fresh stratus
oh yea
raw ermine
Haksal is an actual genji player tho, so its sadder
proven saddle
@pearl stratus well yeah passive are inconsistent, like phara's jetpack is a passive but moira's heals it's not counted as a passive
even if it works pretty much like one
pearl stratus
Yeah, thats my primary issue. They didnt' create a logical ruleset, which means Hack can be super broken in some situations but not others.
cursive talon
-what is the longest genji charge, by a dallas player right?
fresh stratus
dang that tire
pearl stratus
Did you hack a brain center? 😛
plucky rune
these four minute blades are such a fucking meme
tropic herald
LAV are reading Titans rn
proven saddle
@pearl stratus but's that's ok. i dont really mind
tawny sigil
always the last push that makes it
pearl stratus
Oh yeah its definitely an opinion thing, I've always maintained it as a 'to me' thing.
plucky rune
and seominsoo fucking pops off
proven saddle
or how hack disables Hog's ult but not soldier's
tropic herald
2CP by the way
plucky rune
because soldier is a transformation ult and hog is a channeled ult
raw ermine
My heart jumped
hidden osprey
Has anyone else not been getting tokens today? 
dapper lantern
channeled ultimates vs. transformed.
dreamy cave
the titans are actually bad at this first point. no one has been able to actually stop them in all there scre ups
upper niche
That's rough, they get a tick basically immediately :/
New patch please!
raw ermine
woah
dreamy cave
lose the whole first point. switc to goats and caps. that cant happen
raw ermine
nice bubble
visual glen
clutch bubble
tropic herald
That bubble
proven saddle
isn't winston also a transformative ult?
plucky rune
yes
pearl stratus
It's a transform ult with interactions.
Which is why the hack turns off the jumps
But not the swings/actual primal.
fresh stratus
welp. that was nice
visual glen
valiant actually looking decent
tropic herald
Shax EMPs are on point
plucky rune
is it even possible to take paris point b by going m1 down main
proven saddle
like dragon blade right?
fresh stratus
haha right
pearl stratus
They're punishing the hell out of Jjanu's demechs.
proven saddle
or Mercy's valk
pearl stratus
Good clock wasting.
tawny sigil
seominsoo got way to excited there
pearl stratus
Oof that stagger.
gaunt acorn
tawny sigil
thats the paid actor that said get out of here
visual glen
i hope valiant somehow win for the lulz
balmy wolf
oof
visual glen
pearl stratus
They have a good chance.
raw ermine
HAHAH
tropic herald
THAT SLEEP
pearl stratus
They'll play DPS into Titans defense on A.
dreamy cave
c9
pearl stratus
And Titans have -not- looked clean on DPS.
plucky rune
custa is valiant's shotcaller right?
trim shadow
Valiant fans
tropic herald
Yea
vagrant niche
might as well put agilities on pharah again
trim shadow
get out of here
vagrant niche
and custa on mercy duty
trim shadow
Im pretty sure its that black girl with the white dreas
pearl stratus
Or Seominsoo on McCree.
trim shadow
Dreads*
tropic herald
Pharmacy is almost a guarantee
pearl stratus
And SMS is a mediocre af McCree.
trim shadow
He plays a lazy mcree
echo quest
stitch is chilling on the bench
trim shadow
If that makes sense
pearl stratus
Stitch doesn't give them good options to fall back to the 3:#.
*3:3.
Which is the only thing they know they play better than other people.
Stitch is like..
A Carpe Zarya.
So I kind of getting let Stitch rot
But then again.
Jjanu plays hamster.
So who tf knows.
tropic herald
Maybe next stage with super McCree
pearl stratus
His accuracy isn't high enough, imo.
Not using this EMP is insane.
Thats some ult discipline
tawny sigil
WHERE IS POKO?
dreamy cave
bruh
pearl stratus
That landed perfectly in the center of the cross.
raw ermine
JJANU
pearl stratus
Jesus.
gaunt acorn
jade storm
lmaoooo
raw ermine
He is the best with dva bombs
jade storm
Immediately switched
pearl stratus
Thats how you play the point.
You use your ults on DPS, then don't throw the game.
fresh stratus
god
pearl stratus
If you snowball, great.
tropic herald
Jjanu Zarya
upper niche
yikes, pushed up much?
cursive talon
so are teams practicing for the downfall of goats? Try things now before a meta changing patch comes.
pearl stratus
No.
pearl stratus
Teams that are just not good at goats decided to stop trying to force it.
vagrant niche
they USED IT
pearl stratus
And its working out better for them.
vagrant niche
why not have a brig hit that spot?
upper niche
The comps they're playing now are just as effective with goats and without goats though.
vagrant niche
it was the same thing yesterday
visual glen
valiant wasting time
pearl stratus
Great sleep.
dreamy cave
common sense should say, eveyone uses this corner. hit there
balmy wolf
oh this in favor of titans now
vagrant niche
they aint going to get nowhere unless twilight is out of the picture
they keep ignoring ana
pearl stratus
Vancouvers a little awkward on their ult economy, but they're definitely ahead.
tropic herald
JJANU got melted
dreamy cave
howwwwww
dreamy cave
they were graved
pearl stratus
If they don't get picked.
tropic herald
HOW
fresh stratus
what the hecc
cursive talon
pray for slime ult clutch
raw ermine
Titans are so resilient
fresh stratus
YES
visual glen
cool beans
tawny sigil
THE PROPHECY SAYS!
sinful heron
NICE
visual glen
today is the day
dreamy cave
thank god
drowsy fulcrum
WHAT THE FUCK
vagrant niche
ok good i was wrong
visual glen
of reversals
vagrant niche
this is looking like a good match
echo quest
3-1 lav ez clap
vagrant niche
OMG these valiant fans are
sinful heron
They backed themselves up way too far
echo quest
cike
upper niche
woot woot! Sweet
tawny sigil
MAP 1 WIN MAP 2 LOSS = LOST SERIE, THE PROPHECY IS TRUE
vagrant niche
and then people say the houston fans are bad
tropic herald
This looks just like last match
north beacon
is this valiant girl at EVERY valiant game?
echo quest
titans 3-1
visual glen
nah houston fans are worse
north beacon
i feel like the girl with the braids is always there
cursive talon
someone prepare a poem for when the titans lose. Something philosophical and shiet.
sinful heron
Yes, she's at literally every Valiant game and she looks like she takes it way more seriously than the players.
tawny sigil
that girl is probably paid
vagrant niche
she always is there and when she is they put the mics on her
tawny sigil
they give it to her dude
balmy wolf
So
When I was at the dallas homestead
She was there as well
Me and my friends call her "Crazy Valiant lady"
sinful heron
I know, I'm just making a joke
balmy wolf
And last time I saw her irl, was she was chilling with Taimou
and like what appeared to be a small "Posse"
fresh stratus
imma look for the crazy valiant girl
sinful heron
She's not difficult to spot
balmy wolf
She's the black chick at literally every valiant game
sinful heron
Imagine the the LAV section of the OWL merch store came to life
fresh stratus
bruh
sinful heron
As a long haired black lady
tropic herald
19-1 PepeLaugh
balmy wolf
like literally every game with the valiant I think she's there
It's actually strange cause like
what on earth do you do that enables you to go to these games cause those tickets be expensive
ok I now know why trill was signed to the DF, apparently pre KR roster florida wanted him
upper niche
ahaha "These kids are trash"
tropic herald
These kids are trash D:
pearl stratus
They're not expensive.
sinful heron
$40 for the week?
vagrant niche
she's pretty obnoxious
pearl stratus
Per day, which is $160 a week.
drowsy fulcrum
I'm leaving the stream fuck that shit
balmy wolf
$40 for one day
tropic herald
$40?
balmy wolf
mb, homestead was my only frame of reference and I paid extra for stuff so it was like 100 something
sinful heron
I could not justify $160 a week holy shit
drowsy fulcrum
LONDON HOMESTEAD WHEN
vagrant niche
again, i wouldn't mind so much if they didn't put the mics in front of her
pearl stratus
Money is relative.
tropic herald
Thats kinda expensive unless you make bank
sinful heron
I'll stay at home with my cocktails and enjoy it infront of my own PC screen thanks
balmy wolf
truth be told I can't imagine a london homestead