esports-discussion

[balmy wolf]

Blase I don't think is a good doom

this is just philly sucking so much ass

[little silo]

wut

[trim shadow]

I remember hydration getting the owl highlight for doom

[pearl stratus]

Blase is a good doom.

He's not the best, but he's good.

[balmy wolf]

They let him go at 25 health

[pearl stratus]

I'd probably put Jinmu top at the moment.

[balmy wolf]

that's not good doom

that's bad punishment from philly

if you wanna see top tier hackfist then look at Element Mystic from kr contenders

[pearl stratus]

Yeah but historical play Blase is actually a very good Doom.

[little silo]

We have Jinmu Eileen Youngjin Hydratiom Blase... and who else?

[pearl stratus]

Technically?

Zacharee.

But does he really count for anything.

[balmy wolf]

most carried player maybe

[little silo]

yeah waste of salary

[pearl stratus]

Also Sinatraa has a deent Doom.

*decent.

[little silo]

Rascal too

[balmy wolf]

wasn't there a houston doomfist player

[sullen berry]

Uprising and Fusion only every caught my attention for the number of Map 5 game in their favour

now I'm not sure where they stand if they can't make it to a map 5 these days

[drowsy fulcrum]

B4NNY

[balmy wolf]

I miss Fraggi

[drowsy fulcrum]

[balmy wolf]

just give him to Paris

[drowsy fulcrum]

THEY SAID B4NNY

[little silo]

idk who wins this but I just want to see Boston get it back together

[dapper lantern]

was that an elephant

[pearl stratus]

Philly's Map 5 thing wasn't good though.

There's some map 5s that are from good games.

Philly went to map 5 with EVERYONE

[little silo]

Elephants are a myth @dapper lantern

[pearl stratus]

Because they were massively inconsistent.

Not because they were good.

[drowsy fulcrum]

I would love to see the timeline where Froyo became a top level Overwatch team

[little silo]

who

[drowsy fulcrum]

the entire roster was considered top level when they played

best TF2 team of all time

widely considered the best team shooter team of all time

[balmy wolf]

well clockwork was really the only player from the team to actually like OW

[little silo]

you cant have a best team shooter team if team shooters are different

[drowsy fulcrum]

you're forgetting Muma

[balmy wolf]

but OW is a different type of class shooter from TF2

[drowsy fulcrum]

I mean

b4nny, yomps and habib were some of the first top 500 players in NA Overwatch

[little silo]

does that matter

[dapper lantern]

👀

[little silo]

they didnt go pro did they

[balmy wolf]

it really doesn't

[drowsy fulcrum]

they were offered

and still are, according to habib

[pearl stratus]

I mean not to be rude to but like..

T500 doesn't mean... much anymore.

You have people who hit T500 on a partitioned MacBook.

Or with 30 fps.

[little silo]

OW and TF2 are very different

[drowsy fulcrum]

true

[pearl stratus]

iRemix was #1 on ladder.

[little silo]

what happened to Team Fortress 1

[midnight sage]

I wish I could get plat :(

[drowsy fulcrum]

but when Froyo and FroyoBLK are still getting top level Overwatch offers, despite not even playing Overwatch

it means something

[little silo]

i dont think they get offers above university OW

[balmy wolf]

that can't be really tru at all

[little silo]

do they even play the game

[drowsy fulcrum]

also the amount of top level TF2 talent playing the high skill reliant characters is insane

[balmy wolf]

b4nny still professionally plays tf2

[drowsy fulcrum]

there's still a market for the top TF2 players in Overwatch and every top level player knows that

[little silo]

i think that ship has sailed

[balmy wolf]

^

^

that was only for the beginning of OW

[pearl stratus]

They still play TF2, my argument would be if they thought they could do it they would because there's no money left in TF2.

[little silo]

you cant pick up a game with an established pro league and just go pro all of a sudden

[pearl stratus]

Which would be why literally everyone else jumped ship.

[little silo]

Persia not feeding pog

[drowsy fulcrum]

I thought that until Corey got picked up by Washington Justice, he was still playing top level TF2 right up until his EG pickup

[balmy wolf]

b4nny made less money in his entire pro tf2 career than 1 minimum wage OWL player for 1 yr

[little silo]

Corey was on some Contenders team but i forgot which one

[pearl stratus]

This was my favorite part of the page:

[balmy wolf]

yea but that's washington and washington also picked up janus and just sucked

[drowsy fulcrum]

Glad Legion

[pearl stratus]

`Comparisons

» Overwatch -$14,795,011.02`

BUT LETS STAY IN TF2

Just a 15 million dollar difference in money making opportunities 😉

[balmy wolf]

who do you think is probably gone for season 3?

[drowsy fulcrum]

and

I mean

[balmy wolf]

I'm calling Janus

[little silo]

damn thats more than 12 subway sandwiches

[drowsy fulcrum]

@TF2pine

[pearl stratus]

Was TF2 Pine.

[balmy wolf]

2 of the flex supports on DC

[pearl stratus]

Noticed how he swapped the second he could.

[little silo]

@balmy wolf all of Mayhem except Saya and Fate

[balmy wolf]

I'd argue fate too

[little silo]

Uh

[pearl stratus]

You can't quote players who left the game instantly the second they had another opportunity.

That proves our point,.

Not yours.

[balmy wolf]

Fate has been performing poorly

Houston getting good all of a sudden makes me raise an eyebrow

[pearl stratus]

You can't judge MT's with bad OT/Support.

[balmy wolf]

wonder if they got a buyer

[little silo]

Sansam maybe

[trim shadow]

I remember watching phillys pre season vid

You dont know us

Im laughing

[little silo]

Fusion will sell their players next season

[balmy wolf]

everyone expect their dps

[little silo]

i think eqo might be gone

[balmy wolf]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[little silo]

they will keep carpe

But Fusion Uni is just gonna move up as soon as Alarm turns 18

[trim shadow]

Im in favor of fusion unii swapping woth the main roster

[balmy wolf]

probs gonna go full KR after this season is over

They should have dropped boombox a while ago

[drowsy fulcrum]

real talk

[balmy wolf]

dude is just not impressive

[trim shadow]

Sado eqo and boom are likely to be sold

[little silo]

Fusion have said that they specifcally develop their Contenders player for the main roster

[drowsy fulcrum]

Atlanta need to run Fastro instead of Masaa

[balmy wolf]

Sado might stay on the ground that he's carpe's friend and cause of just that, fraggi will never get to play

[little silo]

sado and boom are super gone

[balmy wolf]

so fraggi gone

sado probably stays

[trim shadow]

Thats if astro does good in contedied

[little silo]

Fragi maybe for marketing

[balmy wolf]

Fraggi should get bought by paris

[little silo]

Why Astro over Masaa...

[drowsy fulcrum]

their entire comp right now is built around offense, offense, offense but Masaa is a super defensive Lucio

[little silo]

I think Fragis career is over

[trim shadow]

Masaa hasnt been that bad honestly

Its more our Mt and dog

[little silo]

its just dogman and babybay really

[drowsy fulcrum]

babybay?

[dapper lantern]

^

[balmy wolf]

Fraggi got life in him, definitely for the world cup anyway which is probably his last showing potential before he gets picked up by another team

[little silo]

and babybay isnt that huge of a problem besides his gravs

[trim shadow]

Babybay has a fat ass finger

Other then that

He isnt bad either

[balmy wolf]

the prob is they keep doing the same mistakes over and over

[little silo]

but he dishes a ton of damage

[drowsy fulcrum]

maybe Kodak shouldn't have been moved to ATL Academy

[little silo]

yes he should have been

they cant put him on 2way

[trim shadow]

Kodak isnt better then dog tho

[balmy wolf]

Striker I hope gets dropped

why?

[little silo]

striker will stay

[trim shadow]

He wont

[balmy wolf]

striker is top dps

[trim shadow]

Striker is a god

[drowsy fulcrum]

maybe get Sab or some shit lmaooooo

[balmy wolf]

Dude's arrogant last time, and Shock already have plenty of good dps and teammates with amazing synergy.

[little silo]

they busted out big cash for him to play dps

[balmy wolf]

in a dps meta he will be starting

[drowsy fulcrum]

the entirety of Shock is arrogant

[trim shadow]

Funny

[little silo]

yeah but striker is probably their best dps. Just not a Goats guy

[trim shadow]

striker is that good dps

When 2-2-2 comes

[balmy wolf]

Yea but he's extremely arrogant and his fans annoy me. Best Tracer and Widow my ass

[trim shadow]

Youll see sintraa plus striker

[balmy wolf]

sintraa said he would be benched in a dps meta

[little silo]

idk if hes arrogant I havent heard from him in a while

[drowsy fulcrum]

@balmy wolf dude

Striker's fans are nowhere near as bad as Houston

[trim shadow]

Sinatraa has a good sombra

Kinda

[drowsy fulcrum]

there are still people that think Muma is the best western tank

[balmy wolf]

Houston fans are literally only there for the texas pride situation.

[dapper lantern]

bye

that’s a hot take

[trim shadow]

Muma the most overrated man in hustory

[drowsy fulcrum]

Muma was bad in TF and he's bad here

[little silo]

idk about that one

[balmy wolf]

that's terrible logic

he's bad in team fortress

[little silo]

we have more overrated players for sure

[balmy wolf]

therefore he's bad in overwatch?

[drowsy fulcrum]

no

[trim shadow]

Houston consist of

[drowsy fulcrum]

he's not bad in OW because he's bad in TF

[midnight sage]

I’m a Houston fan and I think they’ve been quite shit this season

[dapper lantern]

no, they said they’re bad in both games

[trim shadow]

Muma and his rainbows
Jakerat
rawkus and his booty

[drowsy fulcrum]

he's bad in OW and bad in TF

[dapper lantern]

not bad in one means bad in the other

[little silo]

Muma is Houstons second best player

[drowsy fulcrum]

god DAMN why did Blase ever get put into Brig Jail

[little silo]

Meta

[balmy wolf]

It's intriguing. They're very much getting better. I don't think you fluke a win with the shock and boston

[drowsy fulcrum]

you definitely fluke a win from Boston

I love them but losing is what they do

they're going to drop this game too

[little silo]

I didnt expect Boston to get it together after the shitshow against Houston

[drowsy fulcrum]

100%

[balmy wolf]

I'm neutral but I prefer to give everyone a fair shot

but getting win over shock does mean a lot '

we just have to wait and see

[drowsy fulcrum]

the shock win was insane

[balmy wolf]

meanwhile the other texas team is going down the drain

[little silo]

that win didnt mean a lot

Shock were playing terribly

[drowsy fulcrum]

@balmy wolf perfectly balanced, as all things should be

[little silo]

but that match was a reality check for Shock

[midnight sage]

There can only be one good Texas team at a time

[drowsy fulcrum]

Paris are still just the fucking strangest team. I still don't know how good they actually are

[little silo]

which we saw against Seoul today

[balmy wolf]

@drowsy fulcrum wait until paris faces a top 6 team

then judge

I'd say it means a lot. You can't go lose against one of the bottom tier teams after from a high against vancouver. That's a drastic drop. If it was against the gladiators or even seoul then maybe but not against houston, washington, or florida

oh wait that already did happen against NY

as much as I like SBB

dude is not good on sombra

SBB has been improving his sombra

[little silo]

Idk Shock were arrogant and decided they didnt need practice

and they got what they deserved

[balmy wolf]

but yea shock need to learn how to deal with dps comps

That's still huge. Houston doesn't even have really any money to operate with

[drowsy fulcrum]

god damn I love colour

[balmy wolf]

now they do

Shock had resources and houston didn't and still top tier team

[drowsy fulcrum]

I'm a support main but he makes me want to play Widow

[balmy wolf]

outlaws do have money now you know

[little silo]

outlaws have money now

[balmy wolf]

At the time of the match, they didn't get the resources. They were bought literally days before the match

[little silo]

i think that hope is what drives them rn

[balmy wolf]

days of money doesn't equate to an entire season of shit

well they realize that playing dps which is their strong suit actually works

[little silo]

The mental impact of that hope can do a lot @balmy wolf

[balmy wolf]

they didnt need money for that

Hope < Money and practice with players with more synergy for a much longer period of time

[little silo]

which we will probably see again

[dapper lantern]

guess who’s back

[little silo]

shady

[dapper lantern]

close

[little silo]

BLASE?

[balmy wolf]

tank mode boop

[light flint]

4CP DRAW

[trim shadow]

T-T-Tie

[balmy wolf]

Poor Philly

[trim shadow]

Philly should make signings

Trading window closes next stage

Siigning period*

[visual glen]

The audience looks confused

[light flint]

What is this segment?

[minor flame]

ah yes

esports

quiz segments

[dapper lantern]

my headphones aren’t even in, I really haven’t even been watching this match overall

[drowsy fulcrum]

haha funny europeans not knowing niche things about american cities

[trim shadow]

Halftime isnt even halftime

Its usually banter

Just like pre shows

Wish they like Lol preshows

[little silo]

still better than their "analysis"

[trim shadow]

Listeninf to sideshow all memes aside

[little silo]

Sideshow is good at it

But they only look at one play Sideshow says something good and then Soe says "I think they have this one"

also puckett tries to ride some dumb joke during it

[dapper lantern]

sigh

[little silo]

like the Willhelm scream for every boop

and they replay it 3 times...always with the scream

[trim shadow]

Ever since sideshow came

Soes been coattail riding

[little silo]

sideshow and reinforce are actual analysts

Soe was a backup

[trim shadow]

Puckett is awkward

[little silo]

But they are still using her for analysis and idk why

i think malik is a way better host than Puckett

but puckett hosts way more

[minor flame]

hey guys everyone is still alive!!!

what should we do???

stand lol

[dapper lantern]

I like Malik

[balmy wolf]

oof for boston

thats why you run a dva for 1st point

[little silo]

pucketts smile haunts me in my dreams

[minor flame]

thats why you go for the threat

imagine knowing that a zarya could be at grav

and is at full charge

and yet you do nothing

[dapper lantern]

f r I g h t e n i n g

[little silo]

thats a classic strat

give the fans some hope and then disappoint

very popular rn

Whats next map?

Havana?

[dapper lantern]

Gibraltar

[little silo]

wonder if that will be winston goats

[tawny sigil]

man... we are going to get 2 straight season without a single double draw

[little silo]

persia fucked up his trans timing

[balmy wolf]

boston gonna get reverse sweep

[south brook]

Guess fusions is gonna break the desk today 😦

[tawny sigil]

you call that reverse sweep?

cant go in game 5

[south brook]

Welp gg

[balmy wolf]

holy shit persia is such a feeder

[little silo]

Persia and Colourhex.. not their map

[south brook]

Bring back amigod

[tawny sigil]

cant get past point A... just like my ranked matches

[little silo]

Im watching Persia and the man is fucking up

[raw ermine]

They're falling apart

[south brook]

Look at fusions. He’s so sad

[balmy wolf]

and boston thinks they can sell this flex support

pfffttt

[tawny sigil]

golden box of defeat

pfff

[dapper lantern]

oh man

[raw ermine]

wtf lul?

[midnight sage]

Is Boston losing? Had to step away for a bit

[dapper lantern]

well

[minor flame]

hey fusions they have a barrier

[little silo]

And thats it

[south brook]

Oh

[minor flame]

wereb oth down one

lol ok ima go up

[south brook]

Okay

[dapper lantern]

he’s going to lose it

[midnight sage]

RIP

Get that camera on Fusions stat!

[minor flame]

not sure what fusion did on Hollywood and Gibraltar

he shouldve made a call too kill zarya

and shouldntve have jumped

[dapper lantern]

damn

[little silo]

i think Fusions might be burning himself out

[tawny sigil]

philly always look sad even when they win

[south brook]

Yeah the jump was bad, but honestly I think it’s mostly persia

[balmy wolf]

they screwed hollywood since they couldn't kill zarya

[dapper lantern]

is that phil collins

[little silo]

well they didnt play good did they @tawny sigil

[balmy wolf]

and persia is a horrible support

[tawny sigil]

EQ0 keeping up with the name lore

[trim shadow]

Hello@philly won?

[little silo]

yeah

[trim shadow]

I go on break

Come back

[balmy wolf]

Hex fucked up a grav

cost them the game

[trim shadow]

Boston got reverse sweeped

[dapper lantern]

never leave

[trim shadow]

Did fusion break his desk?

[little silo]

Colourhex cost them the game sure dude

[dapper lantern]

I learned that the hard way

no

[trim shadow]

Fuck

[tawny sigil]

look at EQ0... looks dead inside

[dapper lantern]

We were all expecting a better reaction than what we got but nothing happened, unfortunately

[little silo]

Sombra effective... idk

on hollywood yes

[south brook]

Probably doesn’t want to build a rep as a rager

[minor flame]

damn

for a shit zarya and sombra

carpe did good

[dapper lantern]

well this next match

[little silo]

Glads are team of the day

[balmy wolf]

Sleeper

[dapper lantern]

if you even want to call it a match

[little silo]

so ill watch that walkout and then go to sleep at some point

[balmy wolf]

Gladiators gonna bully the hell out of justice

it wont even be fun

but who knows

[little silo]

i will enjoy it

[trim shadow]

Eqo lost his spirit in that hangzhou beat down

[balmy wolf]

maybe we'll see dps comps out of gladiators since justice isnt really worth the intense goats play

[little silo]

but im not gonna watch it

[dapper lantern]

sleep

[little silo]

i want to see the glads walkout tho

team of the day according to twitter

[dapper lantern]

G L A D I A T O R

[little silo]

PICKED A FIGHT WITH THE GODS

Idk its a pretty nice walkout song

If the teams had some emotion in their walkouts it would be insane

[dapper lantern]

fair enough

[little silo]

"Hell yeah we are Gladiators and Im gonna beat that ass Janus"

[dapper lantern]

oh wow, mayhem walkouts last year

just remembered

[little silo]

Big dick energy mixes well with that song

mayhem with walkout music would have been cool

walkouts last year were just better

[dapper lantern]

okay here we go

[little silo]

FUUUU

WHY

IN EVERY GLADIATORS MATCH

[dapper lantern]

Oh no

Not them

[little silo]

Didnt they also commentate Seoul vs Shock

[dapper lantern]

yes

what do they honestly bring to the table

[little silo]

lets give them every game that Lenn cares about

[dapper lantern]

I’m being serious here

[little silo]

Lets give the worst analysts the match of the week

[dapper lantern]

they’re so dead, they talk a lot of shit

[little silo]

the guy who creates the least hype too

[dapper lantern]

they miss the hype plays

[little silo]

you can just hear that they hate Goats

Its their job to make this sound exciting and fun

but no lets be bored

Haksal gets a 3k nanoblade? Who cares lets talk about random bs

[balmy wolf]

Alright

can't wait to see janus suck ass

poor ark

[dapper lantern]

Ark looking around

[little silo]

A team gets dumpstered? Rub that in

[balmy wolf]

but janus been bad since NYXL

[dapper lantern]

“why me”

[little silo]

Janus really wasnt that good on NY

YEE

[dapper lantern]

Here we go

oh no

[raw ermine]

LUL

[little silo]

I love that guy in the armor

[balmy wolf]

Poor Sleepy

Good player

stuck on a bad team

[visual glen]

[dapper lantern]

Shaz is looking snacked up in that hat

[little silo]

I love the Gladiators fanbase so much

[visual glen]

Shields up bois

[little silo]

The shields up chant is always loud and present

So awesome

[balmy wolf]

Truth be told

I really do wish every team had their own walk out song

[dapper lantern]

it’s getting there

[little silo]

i wish every team had a good walkout song

[balmy wolf]

Yea but I want MORE

NYXL especially

[dapper lantern]

there goes decay again

[little silo]

I dont like Seouls walkout song

[balmy wolf]

Spark's song is actually pretty good if you ask me

[dapper lantern]

lmao sleepy looks good actually

he’s happy but that won’t last long

[little silo]

Sparks is good but doesnt fit their walkout imo

[balmy wolf]

It don't

but hey

I wanna be entertained

[little silo]

Sleepy is currently the best player on the Justice

[raw ermine]

bruh

[silk tiger]

rip decay

[visual glen]

I'm not even worried

[balmy wolf]

Sleepy, Arc, (And Corey if he actually gets to play dps)

[visual glen]

[worn hornet]

did he just...?

[visual glen]

Waiting to hear "Janus goes down first" or something along those lines again

[dapper lantern]

wait

[little silo]

Sleepy and Ark are good

[worn hornet]

Dubya? In 2019?

[little silo]

and then we have the rest

[balmy wolf]

Janus just isn't

He shouldn't have been picked up

[dapper lantern]

sansam is good because ark makes him look good

[little silo]

Justice might be midtier in a dps meta

[balmy wolf]

if anything

[little silo]

Not only is Janus not good hes also expensive

[balmy wolf]

Fissure should have been picked up by Florida and Fraggi maybe going to washington or paris cause it would make both these teams better

[little silo]

Eh

[dapper lantern]

whoa

[visual glen]

Oh no

[little silo]

Fissure demands too many resources for Florida

[balmy wolf]

DECAY

[little silo]

uhhh

[dapper lantern]

👀

[little silo]

300k grav anyone

[balmy wolf]

Yea but he demands too many resources from all the teams he's been on

he wasn't much on london

he wasn't much on gladiators

[dapper lantern]

isn’t he also an asshole

[balmy wolf]

and now on seoul he's still not doing much

yea

[little silo]

and those teams were good

[balmy wolf]

but he's an asshole that demands to be on a korean roster team

[visual glen]

Fissure did work for the Glads

[dapper lantern]

or a diva in professional terms

[balmy wolf]

and I think they all hated his ass they refused to work with him

[visual glen]

He just bailed at the most important match of the season

[balmy wolf]

so drop him to Florida

[visual glen]

So we all hate him now

[balmy wolf]

let him be their problem

He literally gave London the win

[little silo]

fissure did stuff on Gladiators but he wasnt the carry people call him

[raw ermine]

holy crap, decay

wtf dude

is he payed off by washington?

[south brook]

So what exactly is happening? Cause this is.. weird

Okay okay it’s better now

[dapper lantern]

🤔

[visual glen]

Glads just being inconsistent as usual

[balmy wolf]

Decay probably having an off day

either that or they're not taking washington seriously

[little silo]

might get into it later on

[balmy wolf]

which I don't blame them

[little silo]

but it doesnt matter

[dapper lantern]

crowd pls

[south brook]

Still. Losing to justice is not a good look. They still have to try

[visual glen]

Did Janus just

Jump in alone

[little silo]

you know they wont lose

[balmy wolf]

I mean

Yea try

but not like 100%

Justice is a 50% effort team

maybe 35%

[dapper lantern]

this is

[little silo]

im Washingtons Zen rn

so gn

[dapper lantern]

good night, lenn

[balmy wolf]

Hey man leave sleepy alone

he's a good dude who wanted play time

[little silo]

wut

[visual glen]

Glads didn't really have any business winning that

Winnable for Justice

[dapper lantern]

It was

[balmy wolf]

which he wouldn't have gotten if he was on Shock cause just violet is better

[dapper lantern]

but it’s justice so

[little silo]

i was just saying that I was sleepy(tired)

[dapper lantern]

lenn was saying he was tired

lmao

not a diss to sleepy

[balmy wolf]

pun flew over my head

mb

[little silo]

i love sleepy man

gn

[dapper lantern]

sleep child

[vagrant niche]

what happened?

why did trans didn't healed Roar?

[south brook]

Maybe they’ll show a replay

[balmy wolf]

If I had to guess

Probably a tactical winston bubble by janus or the architecture blocking trans.

or just far away from the trans

those are typically the reasons

Poor Ark

Good player

[dapper lantern]

yeah

[balmy wolf]

Stuck on bad team

Truth be told

Ark > Anamo but that's just me personally.

[vagrant niche]

Ark was just a sticky mercy to kill

[dapper lantern]

justice

no way

[idle beacon]

wow so much hate against ark in here

[upper niche]

oof

[dapper lantern]

🤔

[idle beacon]

lol

startrek

call stewart for the rescue!

[dapper lantern]

what was that

[tawny sigil]

yeah you came to watch the gladiator fight some no brand name team

[idle beacon]

wow

decay is really damn pale

[balmy wolf]

THE FUCKING JUSTICE LOST THAT?!

[vagrant niche]

Janus

so bad

[balmy wolf]

Throw that dude back to trials

he is not OWL ready anymore

[south brook]

Decay is really not having a good day

[vagrant niche]

really? he got scotch free on Horizon

[balmy wolf]

Decay was paid a shit ton of money to be noticeably and astonishingly good.

he's looking neither today. He's passable but you want more than passable if you had to bid for the guy

[vagrant niche]

WTF was that shatter man

LMAO

the died

[dapper lantern]

sleepy

[vagrant niche]

i'm laughing to shard i'm choking right now

[inland pawn]

I like how Janus can make a 6v6 game into a 5v7 😃

[sullen berry]

did you guys almost get excited for another justice win during the stage?

smh

only at the ends of each stage does the team magically free themselves of the streak of losses and pull out a win

[inland pawn]

i had hope

[sullen berry]

I'd put money on washington having a good final week of stage 3

[vagrant niche]

ark dying twice in a row first

[sullen berry]

but I am marginally disappointed that it comes down to their dps and tank playmaking abilities

[vagrant niche]

and then people say ark is super good

[sullen berry]

he's a god

[vagrant niche]

like i said, he was just a sticky mercy

[sullen berry]

...translator

[upper niche]

What, against Philly and Guangzhou?

I don't think so.

[sullen berry]

philly please

they've been modestly inconsistent

not that threatening in the top 10

[dapper lantern]

gg

[sullen berry]

and are in it for the play ins

[vagrant niche]

ark again

whatever, yall got the point

[dapper lantern]

sad

😴

[inland pawn]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/c1gq0u/janus_fails_jump_twice_accepts_his_fate/ 😂 👌🏿

[dapper lantern]

🤦

[visual glen]

[south brook]

Lol only 1 point

[inland pawn]

i hope other teams can get a theme song like Seoul's instead of something like the Glads

[dapper lantern]

what? you don’t like GLADIATOR

[vagrant niche]

[visual glen]

I don't see anything wrong with it

[inland pawn]

😂 👌🏿

[trim shadow]

I was gonna have a heart attack if i came back and washington took a map

[worn hornet]

Yeah I bet he publishes his power wanking

[trim shadow]

Who bench

[upper niche]

So I fixed up/extended my ladder predicter a b it this morning. In a best case scenario where Washington Justin win every remaining game 4-0, they would only be +10 on map diff. On the other hand Vancouver, if they lost every single match 0-4, would be +10 also.

Based on teams winning by +1 for every 5 positions above the other team on ladder they are, I've got Vancouver finishing on +73 out of a best possible +90. Florida would be all the way down on -61.

[raw ermine]

F

[bronze scroll]

so, i don't know if this the right place to ask, but ill do it anyway. Does anybody know when this weekends OWL Matches are going to be added to the replay viewer??? I tried searching on google, couldn't find it. And with when i mean what time?

[trim shadow]

could be today or tommorow

[honest goblet]

Who is the best Overwatch Team

?

[little silo]

you can choose between 2

[lost jacinth]

idk why Seoul doesn't use Fissure as preferred tank, their game turned around completely when they subbed marve1 off

sf is just brutal tho

[balmy wolf]

so this is 100% personal opinion from talking between managers and playing in ranked, fissure has a very "follow me and only me" mentality

he is a very solid main tank as he is MUCH more aggro than most others

[lost jacinth]

no surprises there

[balmy wolf]

but conversely sometimes he's not able to properly gauge when to get a stronger and faster pace

and also hes super toxic lol

hes cancelled and bailed numerous scrims because of poor team performance

[lost jacinth]

that clip of him getting two shatters off of one grav oof

[balmy wolf]

no one's more handsome

[lost jacinth]

ah attitude issues eh

mt is super tilting

esp if you're not as team oriented as he seems to be

[balmy wolf]

theres so many that are just

so toxic for no reason

like sugarfree

sugarfree gets a salary for being on an academy team, and those teams have contracts stating if you break rules you pay a fine

and one of those rules is regarding sportsmanship

there are some months where sugarfree had to pay his team because of how toxic he is

theres a slight natural beauty to the knowledge that the youngest salaried pro player drops hard Rs regularly in scrims

[lost jacinth]

oh no lol

these kinds of things, as much as they're part of the moment is also a force of habit.. hard to change no matter how good you are in other aspects

[trim shadow]

its overwatch..the game screams toxic

its easy to loose yourself

[lost jacinth]

like you can be tilt proof but still have that bit of you lurking if you're not used to better use of language

yea but you can still choose better habits when it comes to keep your wits about you

instead of automatically reverting to the hard r's and whatnots

[balmy wolf]

its perfectly fine to just get mad every now and then

but like theres a limit

[lost jacinth]

if you're unable to see you're going over the edge with the attitude and that its affecting your team then you're better off sticking to quickplay lol

[balmy wolf]

like note yesterday straight up raged lmao

or not note

fusions

[lost jacinth]

fusions slammed the desk

yea

but that's like.. human imo, at that level of pressure

[balmy wolf]

yeah thats fine

it happens every now and then

[lost jacinth]

but you know what he didn't do? lose his shit at his team and start cussin like a child lol

[balmy wolf]

yeah if you like get mad and then like go quiet until you calm down

thats fine

[trim shadow]

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[balmy wolf]

[karmic grotto]

and he is?

[trim shadow]

Good question

Now where is karayan and gargoyle?

the two tanks

[karmic grotto]

also a good question

[trim shadow]

Since SNT is gone so no backup for Fate

And xepher is performing so low hes a meme

[karmic grotto]

Mayhem, I feel bad

Why don't they just pull out the ultimate stunt

Fire everyone except Fate

start anew

[trim shadow]

They shouldve done that last seasom

[karmic grotto]

wait, Fate out too

Exactly

[trim shadow]

If they were gonna get rid of

Misfits apex

For budget koreans

[karmic grotto]

Shanghai did it

Mayhem can too

[trim shadow]

Xepher shouldve went

Mayhem shouldnt have even won a game this year

[pearl stratus]

Shanghai wasn't budget Koreans.

[trim shadow]

Thats how bad they looked in pre season

[pearl stratus]

That's not comparable.

[trim shadow]

See shanghai went out

And spent money

Mayhem went out and bought snicker bars

[pearl stratus]

They got KDP. The team that took Runaway to 8 points on a CP map, only two people they didn't get were Roar and Decay.

But Shanghai has a fuck ton of money.

[karmic grotto]

LAG had too high bidding for them

[pearl stratus]

Misfits doesn't.

[trim shadow]

Shanghai wouldve been unstoppable if they got decay lets be honest

[karmic grotto]

Imagine if Shanghai had Roar and Decay

[pearl stratus]

Shanghai had enough to get them if they really really wanted.

[trim shadow]

Shanghai probably came 2nd in the bidding war

I think it was decays choice..actually ofc it was his choice

[pearl stratus]

They got Diem too.

Diem and Decay is lots of overlap.

[karmic grotto]

Yes but

Decay had synergy

with old teammates

[trim shadow]

Shanghai if dive was still a thing would be nasty

[pearl stratus]

Agreed, but between that and thinking Fearless might work out it probably put less financial pressure on the bidding war.

[trim shadow]

Thats if geguri played a above average dva

[pearl stratus]

I.e. they weren't desperate for it.

Geguri does, statistically, play an above average D'va in the league.

[karmic grotto]

So as you said... they could have gotten Decay and Roar but decided not to

[trim shadow]

On the same level space and note did?

[pearl stratus]

Synergy aside I think their current choices are better.

[trim shadow]

Shanghai is a top 5 team so netease made the right choices

[pearl stratus]

I mean Space isn't worth shit if you go for someone like Fury.

So its all in relatives.

[trim shadow]

Netease is the org right?

[pearl stratus]

And don't give me that 'Space is as good as Fury' story, because its a fairy tale.

[trim shadow]

SpAce had great bombs

[karmic grotto]

jjanu better than space

[trim shadow]

Fury was just overall good

[pearl stratus]

Space is good for a western D'va.

But imo no one touches Fury.

Then you get to deal with Jjanu, Meko, etc.

[karmic grotto]

Dva onetricks lmao

[pearl stratus]

You can add Daco to the list now.

[trim shadow]

As of right now i would argue fury is the best dva in the leauge

[pearl stratus]

I don't think anyone would disagree with Fury being the best.

[karmic grotto]

^

when you eat gravs so easily

[pearl stratus]

He beats his own records, and thats about it.

[karmic grotto]

poor babybay

[trim shadow]

Those grav eats are absolutely filthy

[karmic grotto]

at least he learned

[trim shadow]

Dont cry for babybay he has a fat finger

[pearl stratus]

I mean in fairness to Babybay Fury doesn't care who you are.

he'll still eat that shit.

[trim shadow]

Babybay didnt learn shit hes still@yeeting gravs

[karmic grotto]

he does it less

but still questionable

Most Zarya players as I've observed

Think they use grav only to win a team fight

Grav is just an extra ability

[trim shadow]

Eh

[pearl stratus]

When you charge them as fast as Seominsoo and Sinatraa, yeah.

"This is an extra ability with a 30 second cooldown."

[karmic grotto]

lol

[pearl stratus]

Actually I think Sinatraa still holds the record, he charged a grav on Blizz. World in 26 seconds.

Wait I lied.

22 seconds.

[karmic grotto]

game sense..

still remember that game vs China in Gibraltar

[trim shadow]

I think recently sinatraa charged 2 gravs in under a minute

[pearl stratus]

https://clips.twitch.tv/SavageSpunkyKoupreyAliens

[trim shadow]

Think it was last night

Sinatraa is honestly hard carrying san fran

Yes super has good shatters

Yes moth has good boops

[pearl stratus]

The 22 second one is impressive to me because it wasn't like it was against Washington Justice.

[trim shadow]

But sinatraa is basically quick playing over there

[karmic grotto]

22 grav was against Titans

[trim shadow]

Well not against houston dont kno what the fuck was going on there

[little silo]

Choi and Violet are insanely good too

[karmic grotto]

@trim shadow they didn't had answer to Danteh's Sombra

[trim shadow]

Violet never gets his named called out lol hes just that consistent

[karmic grotto]

Quite funny if you know that Danteh was a former Shock player

[trim shadow]

Danteh was probably mad

you dropped me to a orgless Trash bucket

[little silo]

@karmic grotto Bro

Did you see how Shock played as a whole

[trim shadow]

Probably why atlanta almost beat em

[karmic grotto]

When

Ah

[trim shadow]

Within dacos mech foot

[karmic grotto]

Yes

They were scuffed

[little silo]

does their game against seoul not prove that they can play way better

Yeah they were extremely scuffed

[karmic grotto]

I've heard they didn't practice during break

That's why their first two games were shit

[trim shadow]

Looking back at it idk why daco chased sinatraa

[karmic grotto]

no idea either

[trim shadow]

Knowing its a extra cool@down to him

[karmic grotto]

someone commented

ATL looks lost

when nothing goes right

They don't trust each other

Do stupid things

[trim shadow]

Thats a fair assumption

[karmic grotto]

then proceed to lose

[trim shadow]

It starts with pokpo

[little silo]

ehhh

[karmic grotto]

I mean, look at what they did vs NYXL

[trim shadow]

Then babybay and everyone else falls aprt

[karmic grotto]

How they played

And then how they played third stage

[little silo]

it usually starts with dogman dying first

[karmic grotto]

Feedman

[trim shadow]

Pokpo still dies first alot and then the boys wont invest to keep him up

Its between dog and pokpo

[karmic grotto]

They can't peel

It so stupidly weird

[trim shadow]

Dog died cause he positions weird

[karmic grotto]

Why can't you protect the main tank

[trim shadow]

Pokpo dies cause he over extends

[karmic grotto]

The difference is

for example with Bumper

Bumper overextend on purpose, but his teammates back him up

Pokpo does that, ATL:

[trim shadow]

what do i do

[karmic grotto]

-Standing still for unknown reasons-

[trim shadow]

It is a mix language versus korean tho

And im gonna assume everyone has decent english on san fran

So its probably easier to say rein rein rein on a full@kr roster

versuses having a in game translation

Translator*

[little silo]

why are so few players trying to pick up korean

that would make them super valuable for mixed rosters

[trim shadow]

At this point in contenders you should make a effort fo learn a little korean if u wanna goto owl

Especially with expansion in season 4 after home Introductions or what not

Still curious as to how big the s4 expsansion will be

[little silo]

probably not as big

[trim shadow]

Like 3-4 teams at max

Chicago seattle A chineese city and somewhere in europe was my predict

[little silo]

Any specific european country?

im expecting Germany

[trim shadow]

Yea like munich

[uneven wren]

seattle would not be very ideal because vancouver is representing all of the cascadia region

[trim shadow]

Vancouver seattle is a rivalry

I think. I also talked about hollywood busan someone said arlington

[little silo]

Munich. Why Munich of all cities

[trim shadow]

Thats not the capital of germany?

[little silo]

Cologne has GamesCom and hosts several gaming events

[uneven wren]

lots of people in seattle and portland are already titans fans

[little silo]

Berlin is the capital

[trim shadow]

But what would cologne rhyme with

The cologne knights?

[little silo]

Thats not my job

What would you use for Munich

[trim shadow]

Theres katowice

Munich rolls off the tounge

[little silo]

Katowice and Cologne are my best guesses

[trim shadow]

Oh i forgot

[little silo]

Yeah but a good name for a Munich team

[trim shadow]

whats his name left for fortnite

Nate

Soo if nate isnt in controll this off season will@be spicy

[little silo]

Nate Nanzer?

I dont think he did all the work

certainly not irreplacable

[trim shadow]

Commissioners are always replaceable

They authorize certain moves

[little silo]

well yes but someone else can be a commisioner

[supple prism]

everyone is replaceable

[swift moth]

@little silo less korean players right now because getting koreans into LA takes a very long time

when the season ends more korean players will be added to teams

[trim shadow]

did you forget about home markets?

[trim shadow]

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[jagged crater]

nmore

[dapper lantern]

perfect

[balmy wolf]

[echo quest]

Mayhem might get bette now

They have a solid flex support and off tank in Gargoyle

[little silo]

idk man the xepher curse might just haunt them

[trim shadow]

gargoyle isnt officially signed yet

[echo quest]

SK is so overpowered

They are having tryouts

I hope Fate makes it.

[little silo]

why

[pearl stratus]

Doubtful. He hasn't been impressive on any team at all this year, and thats all they've got to work on.

[little silo]

its probably gonna be Mano or Bumper if they decide to go with all of Vancouver

[pearl stratus]

Unless he Xephers the hell out of tryouts.

[karmic grotto]

SK with Bumper, well

...

I prefer Mano

Now that I think about it, I gotta watch OWL replay

I wonder I can learn tanking by watching individual POV

[pearl stratus]

You'll learn little things but tanks are harder to learn from VOD imo because you really have to play around how your team plays to build them space.

But you can still learn things.

Just got to adjust it to who you have.

[karmic grotto]

for me it will be easier to identify what I should do

I'm already applying something Leggo said about Winston and I am winning games

and watching Winston POVs teaches me

applying pressure without putting yourself at risk

[pearl stratus]

I'm a trash MT minus Hammond and a very small amount of Winston, so I just accept that and don't play it 😛

[little silo]

Positioning is probably the biggest thing you can take away from that

youre not gonna master primal from watching them

[echo quest]

SK said they are doing tryouts

So we could get non owl players

[little silo]

Non OWL players or benched players only would be a great chance for T2-T3 players

But it would also be boring as hell because there are none of the stars

You dont want to watch Germany in a football WC to play their below 21 team

[pearl stratus]

Eh its happened before.

After the US ran the Dream Team in the Olympics way back when we stopped using professional players for a while.

Well technically before.

[karmic grotto]

try outs

but I wanna see bumper

[pearl stratus]

Pre Dream Team the NBA was unallowed from stuff like that to keep it more 'fair'.

[karmic grotto]

I guess it will be fair and square

[pearl stratus]

I think it would be overall better for the game if it was only T2/T3 players.

But it also might not be as enjoyable.

But getting to see T2/T3 players shine and playing on LAN is big for exposure.

[karmic grotto]

I agree

Where's my boy Alarm

[pearl stratus]

Not eligible.

Actually he will be.

So you could see Alarm on the OWWC team.

Leave will be eligible too.

So Team China will be back.

[karmic grotto]

Alarm becomes 18 first week of July, yeah

[pearl stratus]

And with the OWL experience I think Team China will do as well as they did last year easily.

[karmic grotto]

I hope they do good

All other teams are easy for them

But SK

[pearl stratus]

USA is screwed either way.

[karmic grotto]

yup

We want Aero, he has infuence and is well known

meanwhile

Dallas losing

[pearl stratus]

We got Roundo for Coach.

[karmic grotto]

Only thing can carry USA are the players

[pearl stratus]

I don't trust Aero to pick the best players.

He'll pick shit like Zach and Dogman

[karmic grotto]

I don't want Zach nor Dogman

Sleepy pls

[pearl stratus]

Sleepy -> Rawkus -> Dogman, 100%.

Rawkus may historically have dog shit positioning, but he actually knows how to Trans.

Which is a [ ] little bit important.

If Rui gets Sky back he could literally run full Miraculous Youngsters minus Yveltal.

Since Creed is coaching now.

Jiqiren, Lateyoung, Leave, YXL, Sky

I wouldn't run that since you have people like Elsa around, but he could.

[echo quest]

I mean team USA is still fucking op in basketball

Shy is amazing but won’t turn 18 rip

[swift moth]

team canada same roster

[pearl stratus]

They'll probably want to get a better tank this time, especially with how little he plays.

[echo quest]

Geguri benched for good now

Envy to Shanghai

[little silo]

i dont think shanghai even want to run a dva rn

[pearl stratus]

They're most likely picking Envy up for when they want to, but also want to keep the option around Sombra.

Envy would let them run:

Gamsu, Envy, Diem, Youngjin, Kyo, Yveltal

And Envy can rotate to the sombra, keeping Diem on Zarya.

But also let them play the D'va.

It'd be nice for maps like Rialto that you want the more traditional 3-3 on.

I think this trade is more about Envy can also play Sombra.

As opposed to Geguri is a bad D'va.

They're about equal D'vas Geguri just has no flex.

[echo quest]

@pearl stratus aren’t yveltal and kyo on chengdu?

[karmic grotto]

wait, huh

Why does Dragons get Envy?

[echo quest]

Transfer

[pearl stratus]

My brain just went stupid @echo quest

I didn't mean to stop at supports and I was talking to someone in PM's about team china for OWWC.

[echo quest]

Ah kk

[pearl stratus]

The main point was just that Envy has Flex and Geguri doesn't.

[echo quest]

Ye

[little silo]

dding is pretty integral to their success so if hes not playing you can expect regular goats

but this is a good move just for the flexibility

[pearl stratus]

It's regular goats with options is the thing.

Look at like...

Houston.

The second Coolmatt is subbed in you know EXACTLY whats going to happen.

Because Coolmatt can only play D'va.

[little silo]

exactly

[pearl stratus]

Geguri is the same, if you sub in Geguri you know its standard 3:3.

[little silo]

dding sombra goats will definitely be superior though

[pearl stratus]

With Envy its 3:3 or 2:1:3.

[little silo]

envy should adjust quickly

[pearl stratus]

Yeah, but Sombra goats isn't great on EVERY map.

The map I think of is Eichenwalde.

[little silo]

i know im not saying its bad that he can flex

[pearl stratus]

Where A to B you can do kind of whatever.

But B to C is like..

3:3.

Hard 3:3.

Overall I like the pick up.

I don't think they even necessarily need to get rid of Geguri.

Though she could replace Sansam on Justice pretty easily.

If they can afford her fanbase.

[little silo]

so could nevix

[echo quest]

Nevix is pog but my guy has so many star players on his team

[pearl stratus]

I wouldn't wan to give nevix up, personally.

[jovial fiber]

I reckon Nevix will get a transfer

[echo quest]

^

[jovial fiber]

he’s good

but not being played

[pearl stratus]

If I was Shock I'd want to keep him just for his raw versatility.

Because Nevix is relatively meta-proof as he's proven.

[jovial fiber]

eh

[echo quest]

He is

[pearl stratus]

He's not always the best answer on the roster in every meta, but he's never going to be like "Oh I can't play in this meta"

[echo quest]

He isn’t a superstar or anything but plays dps and offtank at owl level

[little silo]

i dont think he can start over anyone else on the roster. cant think of a meta where shock dont have someone better for every role

[pearl stratus]

No, but he's the perfect sub when it breaks down.

Say Choi gets sick.

[little silo]

true

[pearl stratus]

I don't forsee nevix slotting in and it being a massive downgrade.

It won't be the exact same obviously.

[little silo]

yeah

[pearl stratus]

But he's competent on so many roles.

[echo quest]

I’m still pissed off DK was a pedo. Biggest waste of talent in ow

[little silo]

im not saying nevix is bad but unless choi coughs blood and infects half of shock i dont see him playing

we have bigger wastes of talent