#esports-discussion
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uhuhh boink?
what was that
how do they not get along?
???????
what is this round
i didnt get to watch yesterdays matches so im gonna fish that and then watch the rest of todays
these pharah dogfights are hilarious
A mess. That’s what it is.
I’m remembering how cam jumps there were last season
don’t remind me
so again, how do they not get along?
fragi fed
GG
if your rein is dead, what good is he
so carpe started to diss him?
wouldn’t say diss, but think of it as a reverse fissure situation
Then it’s unfair to keep him
They should release him so maybe he could also play at least one game lol
still, fragi would fit in this goats meta .. if the heals eyeball him
i dont get the 'reverse fissure situation' part though
I feel bad, there’s a lot going on this season. it was supposed to be better for players and teams overall but there’s a lot of behind the scenes stuff
people are riding the bench, some of it is due to a limited hero pool
other just don’t have a spot in the meta
trades, releases.
mixed rosters with limited communication
ok
basically, the main issue last year was it was too many matches with not enough downtime
people felt pressured to constantly scrim and practice
scrims and practice .. the same dumb setup again and again .. wont get you better
this year isn’t a huge repeat but goats meta + expansion teams have created a huge divide of who’s good and who isn’t
and that split is very very clear
dive needs alot of practice .. sure. but goats? .. stick behind your rein .. thats it
^
goats as a meta is so player strict in your actions that one mistake can just fuck up your entire team
case in point
some teams can stabilize with a loss of a player but most cases will result in a reset or the rest of the team dying
Titans are a huge example of that. Bumper dies and that’s usually their go button and they often succeed. Not every team can or will accomplish that.
maybe because most teams don't dare to go on without their rein
whats the next match after this?
glads and fusion
dive doenst need more coordination
dive is looser than goats
its much more chaotic
uhh
????
this is not a channel to post that kind of stuff
I didn’t even watch it but I know it’s some stupid shit probably
lol
not really, dive is exactly what it sounds like
dive doesnt
its much less precise
goats is very very careful
well then our opinions divide
which is why most of these teams are ASS
goats is dumb and simple
at goats
if goats is dumb and simple then why are most teams that were good at season 1 now sucking ass
linkzr stop
goats at high level requires a high level of team coordination that it raised the bar for that kind of play from dive
^
you can be subpar at coordination in dive
and still succeed as long as you have mechanics
hence why we don’t see a lot of our old familiar faces
ye, keep on talkin .. seems like you haven't played & watched anything else but ow
@minor flame
or people are reduced to brig or zarya. those that could adapt, have. everyone else was left behind.
i mean
if thats what youre saying then youre just saying that i have a better stance on this than you
so im not sure if youre trying to win over yourself
well, gg
played much of what
hes saying that i only play overwatch and thus my opinion is wrong
not wrong, but also not knowing more than overwatch strats
????
what
nvm
the topic of discussion is Overwatch though
but we are talking about Overwatch
other games have no merit
I play Rainbow 6 but I don’t expect goats to be run in R6 lmao
the amount of coordination required to run goats effectively at pro level is comparable to dive, without question
you know what goats is in siege
tachanka?
i cant understand how r6 players can identify other r6 classes
cause they all have the same color scheme
i can identify every operator instantly
at first glance
i even know what they sound like
tbf its easier in ow
you learn outlines very easily
^
it’s just a time thing, things always seem weird at the beginning but you adapt quicker than you think the more you play
Pace also makes other different queues matter.
Which people don't always address.
R6 is not exactly fast paced, so you have more time to learn all the different cues.
outlaws kinda slap now
agreed, endo
It's like CSGO. You learn the footfalls quickly because its got long periods of stationary stuff.
Picking up things in OW are a lot harder in my opinion because the pace is near hectic. We saw it with Eileen against Chengdu.
He simply stood still at a decent distance, you glance over him because the game is movement and hectic.
I don’t even know how I learned how to play this game lmao
Drax'd em.
since when is the outlaws org bankrupt ?
the period of me not knowing how to play and then suddenly everything making sense is blurred
now I can identify every sound
The only thing I miss is I still miss Widow ult voice lines occassionally.
that’s not just you, some sound cues just don’t go off at times
Also I tend to have Hulu/Netflix going while I'm playing.
So I have 1.5 headphones on, with one partially off to pick up the show lol
I’m guilty of having music playing
and half of a headset haha
only if I’m expecting a phone call
But thats on me, not the game.
I can’t hear shit with them on
lol
I love this game though
dolby atmos on or off ?
I like the game, the player base can fuck right off 90% of the time.
Absolutely
not to mention siege has a mountain of sound and gameplay bugs
ow is like a dream compared
r u guys using 5.1 headphones or stereo headphones?
i use hyperx cloud alphas
I use some logitechs, made the mistake of going wireless this time.
so you guys play with 5.1 and no atmos
Never again.
I wear glasses and needed something that won’t kill me since I play for several hours a day
i have stero headphones, playing with dolby atmos
i was gonna get atmos
Wireless peripherals can fuck right off too.
@grim field i have a leak
always wired
ya i have glasses so cloud alphas are pog
and you can quote me here
wassup leggo
glasses?
gimme the juice
wat?
You know what my favorite is?
CC got picked up for an academy team 👀
my other headset was killing me because it was too tight for my head AND my glasses
cc
My Audio Technica with a mod mic.
how good is the modmic set ?
wait leggo whats cc
Really? I expected Second Wind to be picked up faster than CC.
i was thinking of getting me modmic5
Chicken Contendies.
chicken contendies
ohhhh
Second Wind is bascially already a farm team for non-Korean OWL players.
i havent been following contenders closely
same, I fell off hard
anyway imma go back to watching houston
ever since i left CC i havent been too into it
leggo respond to me in waffle house you pleb
This next season of NA Contenders at least has a few interesting teams.
To fill in the FU void.
Houston using 2 ults too many, but hey.
so never mind
Why not.
dude im busy with this bullshit ass penalty LOL
smhhhhhh
its so annyoing when im not in america
i have to print out the contract to sign it and then scan it and send it like that
it has to be my physical sign
well its bc of sponsorships
Didn't want to pay for the adobe license for the docu-sign
theyre the ones who want the physical copies
fair enough
basically endoken without saying names in contendiers/trials
theres a group of 3 that got caught sending an underage girls snapchat in between them and trying to solicit nsfw images
in the group, 2 of them were above 18 and 1 was 15
I heard about that but didn’t read the specifics
and now i have to deal with it at fuckin 11pm the night before i have to go to hosp at 6am
Yeah SW did their release quickly.
this round
yeah
Tired af.
I was just talking about SW a minute ago and it carried in my brain lol
Since I was surprised SW didn't get picked up as an academy team since you mentioned CC.
SW seems the better overall choice.
its because of public opinion
oh is that finalized
Does NYXL always use Ana GOATs over Zen GOATs
I don’t watch much OWL
Seems like it worked great today
No. They were using Ana Goats because the other team was running a Sombra.
@pearl stratus dude everyone needs PR managers
So there wasn't a D'va to neutralize the Ana.
because if shit like this keeps happening
Ah
i swear my nights are just long ass nights now
Oh yeah, without a doubt. But I meant more just so people know who he is.
So we won't throw the WC by having Aero coach again.
also you can understand the physical signature now
You just know the fuckers going to bring in Zach.
Yeah, I understand it in any situation honestly. In this day and age digital stuff is still not actually that secure without massive financial investment.
He really isn’t good.
boston looks shite
What else is new
This is their third support combo in three games.
I think they're still trying to figure shit out .
They're back in a very S1 Boston position of having a ton of supports.
wow
Also Houston is actually playing really well, summer camp went well for them.
who wouldve known
that houston would be the first example
of
play what youre good at
improvement
(Also they benched Coolmatt.)
I was going to say 'Jake is doing a much better job of staying alive'
But then he got collapsed on and gang banged.
So.
This is why you don’t say anything haha
man
Caster Curse. Discord Doom.
remember when we said
rck and note trade was a good trade for both teams
looks like it was only good for fuel
jake is a snack 
I didn’t say that
most people said that
I knew that it was a good trade for fuel only
Eh rCK isn't bad, I still think the one thing Boston is doing now is fixing their Zarya issue.
Because Colourhex was pretty...
is this the biggest jebait?
Meh?
make jake feed?
Super Meh?
he left much to be desired, yeah
cant tell if Houston is really good now or Boston is really bad
I don't think Boston is in a bad spot, but when you look at it roster wise they're solidifying.
^
They rotated Blase/Colourhex, and they're going through Support Duos.
I think they’re trying to find their A team but at the cost of
They'll most likely settle in eventually.
well everything
i dont know
Seoul did the same thing in Stage 1->2.
the non supports are underperforming themselves
Remember the shit storm when Fleta got benched for Fits?
lol
That is an angry looking Boston line.
Fusions oh no
I want to know the reasonings behind Persia, too.
pigeons
are vermin
Talon E-Sports was a decent team, but they never struck me as a team with star talent.
Whereas Aimgod was holding his own.
So its a weird swap to me.
I really don’t know why they don’t field him.
I get it, experimentation. This ain’t it though, put him back out.
I mean when the issues with Neko came up it was said that Aimgod kind of was the same, just not on the same level
So maybe... that?
Fusions just xQc'd the shit out of that desk.
Which is kind of funny.
Since I remember Jake doing it last Stage.
It all comes full circle.
Is this how you attack Havana? Kappa
hold on
holding on
this isn't a rerun of yesterday, but it sure feels like it
well
i love mica
dayum casters go off
that’s how I hit my desk
Honestly the Bastion on Havana A seems overall pretty legit.
Oh god.
Fusions has the interview.
Oh no.
oh this could be spicy
Fusions is going to sound like a ladder play.
anyone going on to watch the AAP?
"My DPS instant lock, and they're fucking trash."
Oh wow the matches have been so lopsided today we're 45 minutes ahead of schedule
He’s going to be heated, I have a feeling it’ll be like those post losses in basketball. He was furious and then tried to play it off during handshakes
he's on the clock right now
He's the only real strong link, and I've noticed the new anti-Boston strat is just "Focus the ever loving shit out of fusions."
a little over 2 hours unless it's prerecorded (which is known not to be)
Second side note.
I find it funny that Houston finally has a Tracer.
But he plays Sombra.
So Linkzr and Jake both trade off now. But they're both actually decent Tracers now.
So Houston arguably has 3 tracers.
the rage has been seeded from Jake to Fusions
I can't say he was prepared for another disgrace ever since the loss to titans in stage 1 playoffs
man every time they show this
that is high octane energy fusions puts into as many games that are not even close (vs Justice) on the surface
The map differentials
I still find statistically Gladiators pretty oddball for a team comfortably sitting in top6
surefour looking snacky as always
wait who thinks they could beat vancouver

jake is a snack but he plays brig
unlucky
no
Philly defused?
CARPEEEEEE
Imagine Sado playing better than fusions
that's a statement I couldn't bring up until today
like I said, I was getting sleepy but “GLADIATOR” at 100% volume is enough to wake you back up
Imagine Philly playing like a cohesive team.
It'd be the first time since.
never.
the only time I could last recall them being cohesive
was stage 4
and that was
versus mayhem on the same map
a long time ago.
oh yeah the 50-0 kills or whatever
Imagine if I told you in 2018 that the issue with Philly would be 90% Carpe.
I hate to think that was their peak with sado
They never really had peaks so much as pop-offs, imo.
anything that happened this season, it hasn't paid as much attention
poko throwing
They've never been a cohesive group. They just got carried by EQO/Carpe popping off at the right now.
*throwing bombs
But we should all be respectful.
if we get linkzr widow, can i pls have carpe widow
It's Sado, Poko and Boombox' last season.
thank you
So lets be nice to them.
i mean wtf was poko doing
Since they don't exist in 2020.
Sad but true.
i still cant believe houston beat shock 
Once everyone gets promoted.
The second Alarm hits 18 they're being kicked out of the team house.
Alarms Birthday is their eviction notice 😛
I’m honestly not paying attention and I feel like I should be
Get some money back, trade Poko over to Paris - trade Boombox to... someone.
I would have said Houston but apparently Rawkus remembered how you play Zen
this is so back and forth
Roar still confuses me as a pick up over Panker, but I really think the two are/were nearly identical at the time so they probably did it for Decay.
amazing
hi what i miss. houston swept?
yes
damnn
vacuum and everything
^
Poko on Soldier?????
man, what happened? he used to be one of my favorite off tanks last year.
was he a favorite cause of his bombs?
carpe carry yes
just in general. last year was when I really started to solidify my tanks and their play time
And I looked up to a lot of these guys
When it comes to offtanks I can't besmirch Fury. Even when I don't overly enjoy London.
huge f
whats with their stream quality today damn
Twitch is fucking up.
ok but
It's literally all Twitch.
i just died too
bRUH
FFFFFFFFFFFFF
Twitch has been as stable as a 12 year old girl with her first period today.
100%.
omg
IT WENT OFFLINE AGAIN
RIP
oof
Omg it happened again
this is so fucking funny
This is just sad
i think neptuno and Boombox is the best non-korean support line there is
though thats not saying much since most teams have at least one korean
Well enjoy them for the next few months.
Stream dead again?
Because then they're being benched/traded 😛
Alarm incoming yup
omg it came back for a split second
Yeah, its not OWL.
is thjere only 3 non-korean support lines rn?
It's Twitch.
k well imma call it a night
dead
Paris, Atlanta, and Philly
F
I’m losing it right now
not like this last game interests me anyway
yea this is prob gonna be a 4-0
Back now
oh my god houston 4-0 boston
reloading brought the stream back
This is what peak performance looks like
owl is rigged
The worst part is since its Twitch]
i honestly dont think dogman is that great
I can't just switch streams till its back.
goes from 0-7..to a potential 6-1 stage
idk why ppl think he shud be over sleepy for team usa flex support
Because everyone elses shit is broke too.
oh no
ok it sback'
Because people are fucking idiots.\
I just want to watch
People thought Aero should be the coach.
let me watch
That should tell you all you need to know about how stupid they are.
who is shud?
considering taking a road trip to philly for finals
Well Aero is coach
so time for another year of failure
although failure is certain regardless of the coach 
solo ult?
Because its funny watching Philly fail.
no goddamn way
is gladiators good or is fusion bad
if only all my ez ladder games were that good
Philly is garbage.
fusion is bad.
i like both teams tbh
Well then you like garbage. Which makes you less of a person.
but i guess fusion isnt thast good
😛
poko is god though
Poko is nono
poko o no
is the audio weird or do I need to refresh
Refresh
gotcha
i bet i can solve a rubiks cube faster than you though
yeah, was me. much better, audio was really off before I refreshed
^
never got why they got rid of gamsu
Korean.
money
hes somewhat decent
And he's got a real coach now.
I love Gamsu.
Why do you hate Gamsu?
oh yea i heard shanghai paid quite a bit ofr him
decent enough to carry a team out of the bottom, sure
Gamsu got a real team, with real coaching, and real support now.
He doesn’t deserve to be there lmao so he got off easy
gladiators is my favorite team but its nice to see goats lose
happy he can play with the core of KDP
they WERE
Season 2 is more about your coaching.
but were good and are good are not the same haha
Philly looked good last year too.
u think wizardhyeong is actually good?
its a shame that reloading makes your tokens harder to get
No.
bruh
or blehh
Hell no
Hyeong is a strategic coach, not a development coach. So no matter how smart he is he's not going to improve his players to do what he thinks.
damnnn fast takes nice
owo fast caps on both
I, personally, argue there's only 5-6 developmental coaches in the league.
I blinked did they just do it again
If you play any traditional sports you know that development coaches are the real heroes, but no one notices them.
depends on the sport
Season 1: Fire Kyky, Wizardhyong is so good bruh
OWWC: Aero is trash
Season 2: Coach Crusty on Shock, the lord and saviour
Roar lived for so long
damn this can be a fast cap too
I always thought Pavane was better than Hyeong.
he is
yea he is
if that’s not evident based on where the 2 teams lie
Man the new 2CP rules are going to be crazy for Stage 4.
whats the new rule
i know its likea min less right?
and respawn quicker for point b?
so less snowball?
something about snowballs right
ha
Yeah it basically nerfs snowballing to a decent extent.
why does sado look kinda sad
Sad-o
Its the 3.5 second max respawn if you die during the take/shortly after.
go fusion! make this competitive
why can't he just be Happy @dapper lantern
even if they don't know what they're doing
he's still HAPPY 20
haha
So there should be more solid attempts to defend A since it doesn't punish you as hard.
Gotcha.
And better defenses since you'll almost always have your full team.
I read the notes but I also didn’t, you know how that goes.
I glossed over them.
That’s good though, you should feel that on maps like Anubis.
tat new orisa and mccree buff tho
I feel like it ends before we have a real chance to contest like “oh okay”.
just DEFEAT, huh
yeah, Orisa being able to reload and shield is huge
we going to 12 cp
emp on enemies on high ground where your team has no access to them
never happens with the current time limit
unless this is an excuse to cancel fusion's interview
haha
bostonSmug
he’s still fuming, give him a chance to cool off
WOWWW
can you even get the angle for that shot right
wow
like the camera has to manually track the grenade
Carpe
oh man
Just waiting forever.
Carpe
no carpe
12 cp here we come!
i love the energy, but it doesn't happen unless they got 8 mins to start volskaya @clear crane
the boostio, the stream going offline
i meant 12 total
11
people mad in the camera, tonight is great
6 lag 6 phi
I'll rewatch this vod in the future and ask "why isn't this gone to map 5?"
i think LAG full holds here tho
man it’s only a little after midnight and I’m exhausted
I’ve been asleep all day too
uh what?
what was that scream
^
If it fails, you swap.
don’t reset with ults
if it fails GG
yup GG
that’s that
Philly doesn't EMP well.
So he EMP-> Barraged.
But didn't wait to confirm on the Trans.
So Shaz got the trans
Great
So the barrage was wasted.
see 11
why am I doing this
They did the same thing on A with a Grav -> EMP.
no, you can’t see orb on an invis sombra
only barriers and mercy can give it away, to my knowledge
fusions lmao
lmaoo fusions
oh boy
why does he always sound like he’s 2 seconds from losing his voice
permanent laryngitis
Thankfully we have Spark artists
is Chanye a good tank
Whoever does these get massive props.
They’re always good,
I love the one they did for the stage finals.
Not as wild as this one, tbh
That's how you tie in they are officially licensed to sell in China
oooo
I go to the bathroom
fusion already is moving payload
I
spoke too soon
way too soon
gg
oops i missed it
who won
oh lag
hahaha
oo i forgot LAG also doesnt have a korean support line
they might be the best non-korean support line
fusioncord is probably livid
does owl league use capture cards to stream?
I’m trying to stay awake for this last little bit
i wanna see LAV vs Charge tmr
i need philly to win this one map
and seoul vs atl
then i will have guessed 3 of the 4 matches correct
During the live matches itself
I really they could experiment with the timing
EU is really fucked up
But then, it benefits NA and Asia more than EU
I'm not imagining things but they definitely have some pretty laidback staff who manage the reruns (listen to the end)
https://clips.twitch.tv/FancyCourageousGoat4Head
"Goat4Head"
ok
ur like awake 24/7? 😄
seemingly
weekend games are pretty eu friendly
maybe but who could actually afford to watch the League at that time of day in the US
People have work
They do start at 4pm. Just pacific time. If they started at Eastern time they'd be utterly moronic.
Thank God Houston Outlaws are getting dubs again
no one likes outlaws
houston fans are kinda deeranged
and now there ego is inflated because san fran forgot how to counter sombra goats
san fran forgot a lot more than that
san fran got the biggest mental boom after that 2nd hack shatter
i was talking about 4pm pacific
Dallas might go 1-6 this stage yikes
Defiant might go 0-7
Atlanta 4-0
Hangzhou 4-0
Vancouver 4-0
valiant 4-0
Just cause i wanna see a lopsided day
But then again wont happen
So real predictions
Atlanta 3-1
Hangzhou 3-1
Vancouver 4-0
Valiant 3-2
goddamnit Bren
oh boi...
20th all across the board.
I’m schleep
i dont think janus is the worst
"Janus down again"
welp 4-0
guess ill be back for the seoul match
janus throwing
I’m just gonna be playing animal crossing lmao
lol
Dafran 🗿
Again 
Janus is ver bad
👀
Remember when Janus and ark were on a good team
yeah but even then, Janus was kinda eh
I’m watching but also not
the most special thing that has happened was Dafran being in the chat
And Janus being a trashca
incoming 2-14
I don't see Janus in OWL next year
sad
what team was Sansam on?
this isnt even fun to watch
^
gonna go watch a different stream i guess
i hate watching washington cause its so boring
Tokens tho
eh
I’m watching in support of spark and tokens
i got 2 100 drops
it’s mostly background noise though
im good for now
I’ve gotten 1 drop this stage
overall?
ya but im on vaca with only my phone so i only have this
oof lmao
cant keep watching
lucky
I think I only got it once last year
got one and then the next day got another
But I’ve gotten it every week this year, usually on the weekends
first thing i did was get my nyxl sombra
gonna go watch some siege
aight
I have a couple nyxl and a couple spark. bought both all stars last year and this year
washington sucks to watch
i only got lucio
cause i couldnt afford mercy at the time
I have nyxl Lucio, rein, and tracer
the thing is i enjoy so many of the base game cosmetics
Spark Dva
same
I only wore the nyxl skins last year but I wear loot cosmetics though
the all star skins are overrated a lil bit ngl
so it doesn’t even matter lmao
When I’m being a try hard I wear the owl skins
would be really nice if the skin changed like your highlight intro does
you can set your highlight intro to random
oh
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEt
you mean like all skins
was saying it would be nice to have an option to set to random
nah i dont like that
Twitch chat is my brain
^
I have my highlights to random for Mei only because I like all of hers
and they all look good in Honeydew
well ill see yall later. Watching corey the plat zarya and janus the bronze rein is making me a worse player
honeydew
my god
thigh noon
Some people care about cosmetics and skins way too much
i have all the ones i want now
they care about skins more then the game
I like to look good because sometimes I look better than I play
black lily widow, guan yu rein, zhuge liang zen, all star lucio, forest spirit orisa, honeydew mei
lowkey but not lowkey 👀
all i want to be happy in ow now is to be able to buy demon hunter sombra
nothing can take me away from forest spirit
Chinese New Year zen is bad
cause her emo voiceline is so good
it would have to be something dope
bruv
oh yeah, it was supposed to come sometime this year and it still hasn’t
makes me glad I won the blizzcon ticket for free lmao
@dapper lantern wouldnt be surprised if it came at halloween
that’s not a bad idea, actually
it has that vibe
thats why ive started saving coins again after anniversary
id pay money for it but if its coins i wanna be ready
I’m very poor
I don’t even buy boxes anymore, I always just use my currency
when you reach a certain level, boxes just mean free money
This is the most boring game ever
Ew siege

justice is

kinda making something work
It’s Paris
Exactly
it takes forever to get there and then you end up losing it in one fight
like fuck the map designers for that
tru
just like Rialto 🗿
I don’t mind Rialto but that’s because I play characters that thrive in wide open spaces
ok
the only map I really can say I dislike
is Paris and all control points because fuck control
😮
literally all him, fuck everything else





