esports-discussion

[vale pond]

nice

[pseudo storm]

Pokpo is Winston

makes sense to go Rein

[dapper lantern]

realistically speaking, not many teams are able to defend and attack equally. it’s either awesome offense and shit defense and vice versa

then again, all it takes is one slip up

[pseudo storm]

Diem was chilling outside of the map

lmao

oh wow Pokpo getting farmed

[dapper lantern]

damn

[pseudo storm]

Sneaky switch to Sombra.... my Outlaws wouldn't do this

[vale pond]

dogman?

ok

[dapper lantern]

well

that’s that

[vale pond]

nice

dogman trans confused me but worked out

[dapper lantern]

atlanta, show me what you got

[vale pond]

lol

"let mecarry

[dapper lantern]

I’m interested in this match, actually

[pseudo storm]

Not sure I agree with Winston here

[dapper lantern]

oh

pokpo

[pseudo storm]

but...they keep proving me wrong

[vale pond]

pokpo pls

[dapper lantern]

can he STOP

jesus

[vale pond]

oml

my guess is atlanta is gonna take this then lose the ot push

[dapper lantern]

that grav

[vale pond]

diem grav

[dapper lantern]

my god, what is happening

[pseudo storm]

gg

i dont see Shanghai holding

[vale pond]

we'll see

I want atl to win

but I'm getting gz flashbacks

[pseudo storm]

look at the ult economy

[dapper lantern]

what the fuck

[pseudo storm]

c9

[vale pond]

its over

[dapper lantern]

why did they let them just push

[pseudo storm]

they didnt have ults

[vale pond]

they lost one and tried to retreat

cost them

[dapper lantern]

from the second they capped, free real estate

great job

[vale pond]

no contest there yeah

[pseudo storm]

I think Shanghai's win condition was DDing building EMP fast

and he didn't do it

[vale pond]

yeah

its tough on defense

[pseudo storm]

for sure. He was close. 80%

[dapper lantern]

pigeons

[pseudo storm]

Havana could go Shanghai's way

[vale pond]

spawncamping lul

[dapper lantern]

smh

[pseudo storm]

i think it makes sense. spawn is so long for defense

[vale pond]

daco lul

[dapper lantern]

walking away from the payload

pokpo

[vale pond]

good

[dapper lantern]

HUGE

[vale pond]

huge masaa

[dapper lantern]

my god, that shatter

[vale pond]

masaa saves the day

bad emp

[dapper lantern]

whyyyy

used so much

[vale pond]

"opted to get graved"

[north beacon]

Just got off work let me check the last game’s score ohmygooooooo

[vale pond]

wow

[north beacon]

What happened

[pseudo storm]

They got Dante'd

[vale pond]

atl defended the same corner for 3 fights

it feels like paris but payload at that choke

no payload push this whole time

holy shit

[dapper lantern]

hm

never mind

[vale pond]

finally broke the corner

nice pokpo

[dapper lantern]

nice

[vale pond]

p good hold

[pseudo storm]

I haven't seen 3rd point on Havana in OWL yet

[dapper lantern]

it’s happened

[vale pond]

pokpo...

[dapper lantern]

wait what happened to pokpo

literally looked away for a second

[vale pond]

fed

wow

[pseudo storm]

bad fight for Shanghai

[vale pond]

DACO

one fight

oh its over

[dapper lantern]

not a bad push, really

[pseudo storm]

Thats' still a really great push

[vale pond]

atlanta did well on defense

but shanghai broke

dogman genji pls

[north tendon]

https://twitter.com/MonteCristo/status/1139330743585427456

MonteCristo (@MonteCristo)

It’s sad to see so much disinformation about strategy in the @overwatchleague. If you doubt the decision for the Outlaws to play their own style instead of a GOATS mirror, you probably don’t have a professional understanding of @PlayOverwatch

#MonteWasRight

Likes

702

Twitter

what a legend

[vale pond]

oof

[dapper lantern]

oh

[pseudo storm]

Monte needs to get his head out of his ass

He's a commentator, not a pro player. He's got a pretty simple understanding of how this works

[north tendon]

well he was right all along lol

so what does that say

[dapper lantern]

pokpo lives?

wow

[pearl stratus]

He shouldn't have been right, to be fair. Shock are playing like shit so far this stage.

[north tendon]

Yeah, and seemingly weak to sombra

[supple prism]

what is outlaws own style?

[pseudo storm]

anything but goats

[vale pond]

only 30 sec slower first point

wtf

[dapper lantern]

wow

[vale pond]

feeding

why did dog trans

[dapper lantern]

brig is so loud when she dies

[vale pond]

to ensure?

[north tendon]

why would dog not trans is the real question

[dapper lantern]

smh

[north tendon]

he loves his Q

[vale pond]

that cost them there

[dapper lantern]

this probably sounds weird out of context

[vale pond]

emp very balanced ult

👌

[pseudo storm]

nerf brig, then sombra

[dapper lantern]

pokpo, PLEASE

for me

[vale pond]

nerf sombra first

[pseudo storm]

cmon bruh

[dapper lantern]

huge

[pseudo storm]

😮

[vale pond]

nerf emp

[minor flame]

thisis

a very close push

[vale pond]

2 fights in a row

[minor flame]

match*

[vale pond]

same emp

[north tendon]

dont nerf sombra

[dapper lantern]

dding

[north tendon]

buff teamplay

[vale pond]

do nerf sombra

[north tendon]

nah

[vale pond]

emp is way too powerful of an ult

for its charge rate

slow it down 20%

and its good then

[north tendon]

your average user cant do much with her, emp is like most of her kit

[vale pond]

which is a problem

because in the hands of a pro it can be charged almost every fight

[minor flame]

why do you think only pros play sombra

sombra is rarely played below masters

[balmy wolf]

well sombra gets fast emp's because all the tanks are there

[north tendon]

which is why you dont play passive with a sombra comp

[balmy wolf]

in dps comps sombra is bad

[pseudo storm]

oh its played below masters. just not well

[minor flame]

sombra requires a cohesive team

ladder just

isnt for that

atleast for

below masters

[north tendon]

most of the times people rage at the sombra on their team rather than praise

lol

[dapper lantern]

this is pro play, it’s easy to be like “x ability or ultimate is op” but they’re pro. not to mention against goats, she charges it even faster because everyone is grouped up. it’s entirely depending on the player and or team she’s with

[north tendon]

yeah, shes works well in this meta too

even then it depends

[vale pond]

nepal time

[north tendon]

if they go aggro

they have the advantagfe

[dapper lantern]

not defending her because I don’t even play her lmao but it’s just true

[north tendon]

advantage*

she occupies a tank slot

she can be a crutch

but thats on the teams

[minor flame]

sombra goats only has one way to win and you lose alot of variety of roles that dva fills

[vale pond]

can dding's back break here

[minor flame]

thus meaning your defense is shitty

[north tendon]

yep

[minor flame]

yikes

[vale pond]

I love shanghai but I love atl more so I'd like them to win

[dapper lantern]

it’s already been doing that

[north tendon]

why do you love atlanta

wasnt it for dafran originally

[vale pond]

no

[dapper lantern]

the red is literally almost the same on the standings screen lmao

[vale pond]

I just generally like the team as a whole

[north tendon]

ah

[vale pond]

dafran sure but I like the support players

[dapper lantern]

well

[balmy wolf]

I just had an idea as an alternative to a map 5

Tell me what you guys think

[vale pond]

why dog

[dapper lantern]

why grav

WHY TRANS

[vale pond]

just because he presses q doesnt mean you have to

[dapper lantern]

Why anything

[vale pond]

dog's trans was stupid

[north tendon]

lol

[vale pond]

coaches pls explain this to him

[dapper lantern]

is his hand permanently glued to q

why do you do this

[vale pond]

give daco his q key

[north tendon]

hes just been fat fingering a lot today

[vale pond]

or masaa

[north tendon]

unloki

[dapper lantern]

huge

[minor flame]

you know

for a lower twitch viewership

the crowds been more loud than usual

[balmy wolf]

Instead of map 5 with two teams, it's a random roulette. The roulette picks 1 player from either teams and they're put in a deathmatch 1v1 style and it'll be a best of 3 with a fire dome. Anyone from the current playing players and or the bench could be randomly picked for said 5th point.

[dapper lantern]

no

[minor flame]

lol

[dapper lantern]

map 5 lmao

[supple prism]

map 5 should be CTF

[balmy wolf]

how in the hell is that fair at all

[dapper lantern]

lmao cheap

[vale pond]

WHY IS POKPO THERE

[dapper lantern]

fucking pokpo

[supple prism]

or TDM

[vale pond]

WHY ARE YOU IN THE CORNER

[dapper lantern]

I hate this

[north tendon]

pokpo tilts me as a main tank player

[dapper lantern]

that was

something else lmao

[vale pond]

they put so much into daco that he doesnt get the support for his aggressiveness

agh shit

[dapper lantern]

map 5 should be mei’s snowball offensive

matter of fact, 6v6 lucioball

[vale pond]

ugh

[dapper lantern]

because I hate both of those game modes

[north tendon]

erster decides to ice wall his own team out of tilt

[dapper lantern]

same

[minor flame]

yikes

what is ATL doing

[north tendon]

what are these comps

[dapper lantern]

oh

[north tendon]

LOL

[vale pond]

what the fuck

[dapper lantern]

holy shit

[inland pawn]

ROLLED

[vale pond]

please atl

[north tendon]

hog and mei

[dapper lantern]

this is amazing

[north tendon]

really

LOL

[vale pond]

chokeee

[pseudo storm]

wow

[dapper lantern]

entertainment right here

[minor flame]

gg

[vale pond]

the biggest throw

[dapper lantern]

I’m so sorry, Smol lmao

[vale pond]

whatever

[north tendon]

yea thats gotta hurt

[vale pond]

atlanta choking as always

no one was talking before that round

[spring heath]

yikes

[balmy wolf]

if they lose against seoul then their done for stage playoffs

[spring heath]

these games lmao

[vale pond]

this was a hard schedule for them but still

[dapper lantern]

damn, they sped off of the stage

lmao

[north tendon]

dont worry, fuel are here to remind you whos the best thrower of the stage

[balmy wolf]

but hey at least their homestand games are against meh teams

[spring heath]

:_( i hope not i love oge

[dapper lantern]

Danny retired the plumber look

[north tendon]

yae, pandas are involved

this is a no brainer

[vale pond]

if they beat seoul they can go 4-3

but still

[spring heath]

oge is a human panda

[north tendon]

you do have a point there

[balmy wolf]

Toronto has a shot at beating them if their tankline improves

but yea they cant lose to seoul

[minor flame]

lol atl is 20th

[dapper lantern]

wait

[balmy wolf]

oh yea watching clockwork vendetta in contenders was pretty pog today

they almost reverse swept but couldn't keep it together

[sullen berry]

actually 0-4 rolled today

[dapper lantern]

NO

Not this commercial

[sullen berry]

LETS PLAY SOME 0-4WATCH

[balmy wolf]

I wonder if were gonna get another game map 5

then again if DF lose the 1st map then it's over for them

[minor flame]

this is fuel v chengdu

[plucky rune]

quite the upset today

[minor flame]

either this is real close with fuel choking

or fuel 4-0 chengdu

[sullen berry]

fuel vs chengdu is THE game to watch

but then I saw the match result fro houston v shock

[balmy wolf]

i argue spark vs titans is the match of today

[sullen berry]

heads were rolling

[plucky rune]

to lose to outlaws of all the teams

[dapper lantern]

I would say yeah but that’s because I like hangzhou

[sullen berry]

outlaws has creamed spark

[plucky rune]

chengdu 4-0 let's go

[supple prism]

i dont know about creamed

[balmy wolf]

you mean in stage 1?

[dapper lantern]

don’t say creamed at all lmao

[supple prism]

whipped creamed

[dapper lantern]

ugh

[sullen berry]

@balmy wolf yeah

[plucky rune]

i need more ameng gameplay to watch

specifically on hammond

[minor flame]

Spark made Philly look like a fuckin joke

[sullen berry]

I'm more retrospective when I look at my predictions

[minor flame]

but i dont know about Spark v Titans

Spark is kinda like

[sullen berry]

poor choice to make my pickems off

[minor flame]

they have athe elements to be the top tier team like shock and titans

but the thing is that theyre less

refined

i guess

theyre just kinda

lesser

anyway

fuel v chengdu

im out

[dapper lantern]

oh my god, why is ameng in urban dictionary
I just wanted to look something up

[minor flame]

chengdu isnt gonna win

at this rate

[balmy wolf]

I mean if they win map 1 then its over for fuel

[plucky rune]

unkoe seems like a very nice person

[dapper lantern]

sigh

I don’t know what to expect

[trim shadow]

its more atlanta starts to break down the longer the series goes on

[dapper lantern]

I’m probably not going to survive this match, might be nap time and wake up for spark/titans unless I see some good shit

[trim shadow]

im skipping it completey

those la and Guangzhou matches showed chengdus stage

[dapper lantern]

yeah, it’s 😴 time lmao
dallas might piss me off if I watch this

[trim shadow]

the moment effect left i already put dallas to the side lol

itll be a miracle to make the play ins

[inland pawn]

HOLY

[balmy wolf]

did akm not have self bubble

[plucky rune]

hunters lost to valiant but valiant was running custa again

i kind of expected it

[dapper lantern]

bruh

ameng literally ran akm over

this is amazing

[plucky rune]

and the crowd went wild lmao

fucking unkoe holy shit

[pearl stratus]

@vale pond At least Dogman didn't... do... as... shit?

[trim shadow]

dog did

ok

i expected him todo well against sombra

its just

its trash in mirror 3-3

[minor flame]

what the fuck

[plucky rune]

this looks like my plat games right now

[minor flame]

chengdu is winning map 1

[plucky rune]

kill the goddamn tracer lmao

[minor flame]

what the fuck

[dapper lantern]

I’m losing it right now

this is amazing

[balmy wolf]

gg DF lost the series

[inland pawn]

Jinmu

[dapper lantern]

this is so fucking good

[balmy wolf]

OK I MISSED THE HOYSTON VS FRANCISCO

MATCH

[pearl stratus]

Aero and Jayne overrated af. So overrated.

[balmy wolf]

WTF

HOW

[pearl stratus]

Not sure why people are surprised when they struggle with dumb stuff.

[plucky rune]

LOL IKR

WHAT AN UPSET

[balmy wolf]

HOUSTON WON>???????

[pearl stratus]

Eh.

[balmy wolf]

WHAT

[pearl stratus]

Shock lost more than Houston won.

[plucky rune]

im fucking pouring that shit over in the game viewer

[pearl stratus]

Shock played like a Dallas Fuel dumpster fire.

And Houston punished it.

I wouldn't say Houston played insanely.

[balmy wolf]

yeah i know judging by their match against atlanta

[pearl stratus]

Shock just played that poorly.

[minor flame]

Atlanta v Shanghai

Atlanta is actually looking like

a good team

[balmy wolf]

they stopped practising after titans win xd

[pearl stratus]

Atlanta needs to fix their two issues.

And I don't think they will.

Because Dogman gets them fans.

[minor flame]

what do you think about Shanghai there

they nearly lost

it was p close

[dapper lantern]

he needs to stop fucking ulting unnecessarily

[pearl stratus]

They're trying new things.

Dding spends more time on D'va, etc.

[balmy flower]

!schedule

[somber yew]

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[pearl stratus]

I think Shanghai is doing the reverse of the league right now.

[minor flame]

Unkoe says no

[pearl stratus]

Shanghai is trying to rely on Sombra less, whereas everyone else is trying to integrate her more.

[dapper lantern]

ameng lives wow

[trim shadow]

iz weird

san fran walked shanghai

but get walked by houston

[dapper lantern]

juicy

[balmy flower]

l've been out

[trim shadow]

who just got aquired this week

[pearl stratus]

They were playing well against Shanghai.

[balmy flower]

but l see outlaws beat shock?

[pearl stratus]

They weren't playing well against Houston.

[balmy flower]

sd beat reign?

[pearl stratus]

It's a bit like the early NYXL/Atlanta stuff.

[balmy flower]

wtf are these fixed games

[trim shadow]

i think san fran also had a good map pool that wasnt somewhat close to a sombra playground

hence rialto

[dapper lantern]

I can’t believe this

[minor flame]

SF is washed up

[pearl stratus]

My favorite part is, completely and utterly, if Atlanta got rid of Dogshit.

[trim shadow]

Would be funny if san fran goes 4-3

[pearl stratus]

They'd be 2-0 right now.

[balmy flower]

sf...... the team that beat titans in the playoffs

[trim shadow]

idk who they have this stage

but basically almost loosing to atlanta

[minor flame]

Seoul

[trim shadow]

and then getting beat by a last place team

there cockyness is getting to them

[pearl stratus]

I think, honestly, that Shock didn't play at all over the break.

Thats what it looks like at least.

They're just making stupid rusty mistakes.

[trim shadow]

thats the only explanation i can think

[dapper lantern]

Wouldn’t surprise me if that is the case.

[minor flame]

even an unscrimmed sf wouldnt look this mentally awful

theyve just overall decayed

[pearl stratus]

Also

Mentally I think Houston is a lot more relieved right now.

The sale had to impact them as well.

[trim shadow]

probably

[pearl stratus]

Even if it changed nothing so far at least they know whats happening.

Less What Ifs.

I still think it'd be hilarious if Infinite sells off LAV instead.

[inland pawn]

AMENG

[dapper lantern]

god himself

[minor flame]

cant tell if that was Ameng improved on Rein

[spring heath]

oh ge

[dapper lantern]

blessed

[minor flame]

or OGE deproved on Rein

[pearl stratus]

I think that was just the Ameng thing.

[dapper lantern]

he literally just walked in

[pearl stratus]

Look at his distance.

Ameng was literally at max distance.

[dapper lantern]

I fucking love it

[pearl stratus]

Thats a ladder shatter.

[minor flame]

what a madlad

[pearl stratus]

OGE was probably expecting him to get closer, etc.

Thats what happened with Ameng v. Bumper.

Ameng played like a ladder Rein, and I think it just confused Bumper.

[minor flame]

who knew

[pearl stratus]

Who max range just throws out Shatters.

Ameng.

[minor flame]

ladder players would be the key winning potential

[pearl stratus]

It's like the American war strategy.

The enemy cannot expect what we're going to do if we don't even know ourselves!

[dapper lantern]

we need a replay

[minor flame]

i guess thats why Jinmu feeds so much with barrages

cause Jinmu is a fucking feeder

[dapper lantern]

any other time they show shit ass replays

give me one I actually want

[pearl stratus]

But this is why I'm sad for an Aero coach in the OWWC again.

Needed Dpei 😦

[minor flame]

why is aero even popular

[pearl stratus]

Development coaches are the future.

[minor flame]

hes not even known for mmuch

other than a failure

[pearl stratus]

He marketed.

And he was coaching FU.

When they didn't need a coach.

[minor flame]

need dpei is marketable vid

[pearl stratus]

Look at Jayne.

Jaynes a horrible coach.

But he's visible and does stuff for the community.

[dapper lantern]

finally

[pearl stratus]

In his defense its still his first real time coaching

But he's not great.

[dapper lantern]

lmao this shatter

[pearl stratus]

Cocco was their best coach, overall.

[minor flame]

AKM will literally carry fuel

on widow

[dapper lantern]

well, quick take

[minor flame]

wow

Zacharee is actually doing good on Hanzo

Yveltal out for revenge

[pearl stratus]

It's a nice Hanzo point, super wide open.

[dapper lantern]

released from brig hell

f r e e d

[minor flame]

Yveltal actually mad

holy shit

you can see

the physical twitching

[pearl stratus]

Can you even call it Brig Hell if you're not even good enough on Brig? 😛

[minor flame]

of his mouse

[dapper lantern]

he said I’ll do it myself, fuck you guys

[minor flame]

Ana Sombra Goats

interesting

damn

[pearl stratus]

I'd assume just for the nano

[minor flame]

I feel like I just got deja vu

[dapper lantern]

wow

[minor flame]

im pretty sure YXL had the exact same thing happened to him

in this same spot

[pearl stratus]

I hate EMP'ing in that area as a Sombra.

[dapper lantern]

what a

[pearl stratus]

It's got too much shit in it

[minor flame]

well if its something YXL needs to work on in sombra its unpredictability

hes incredibly obvious in his emps

[dapper lantern]

yeah, super telegraphed

[pearl stratus]

That side is also so easy to spot her.

There's so much clutter her positioning can't be super random.

[minor flame]

i feel like people should stop trying to emp in that spot then

the downside of ladder player syndrome shows

[pearl stratus]

Its still better than EMP'ing on the point.

[dapper lantern]

are they throwing

again

I had a small water on keyboard incident that needed to be taken care of

[minor flame]

one thing i hate when yveltal does

is valking

he valks when its pretty much a unwinnable situation

lol what

[dapper lantern]

what the hell

[minor flame]

wtf?

he just got bursted in like

[dapper lantern]

I’m so

[minor flame]

a millisecond

[dapper lantern]

???????

amazing.

[inland pawn]

yxl is so bad on sombra LUL

my man should be watching some dding clips

[dapper lantern]

lmao

wow, that’s

[worn hornet]

"that's pretty toxic bro"

[dapper lantern]

I KNOW Zach wasn’t calling someone else bad

[balmy wolf]

watching the shock v houston highlights

man they had NO answer for that sombra

[idle beacon]

sfs lost to outlaws?

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?????

@dapper lantern hello 😃

[dapper lantern]

hi winston, how are you?

[balmy wolf]

this is going to be a crazy stage

[dapper lantern]

indeed, it already is

[sullen berry]

@idle beacon and so season was thrown into chaos once again

[dapper lantern]

oge and his health went up and down so fast, jesus

500 to 300, back to full and then bashed into oblivion

[inland pawn]

THE YOTTACHAD EFFECT

takes a shatter to the face, kills enemy Rein

[plucky rune]

i feel like ameng is all of bumper's ferocity with super's finesse

[balmy wolf]

ameng is a chad

[dapper lantern]

his rein has improved, I will give credit where it’s due

[plucky rune]

hello im ameng. i'll kick your ass playing my game and your game

ashe in owl nani the fuck

[dapper lantern]

where is my husband

[gaunt acorn]

where'd you leave him

[dapper lantern]

it’s baconjack

and Mano

I have several and it’s okay

[swift coral]

anyone getting OWL tokens

[dapper lantern]

I haven’t checked but most likely

[supple prism]

maybe

nope, im not

[dapper lantern]

threw

[balmy wolf]

I missed it

what happened to bob

[dapper lantern]

destroyed

[balmy wolf]

aw

[dapper lantern]

was just a temporary distraction

[idle beacon]

@dapper lantern tired, and forgot about them matches 😦 .. how're u ?

[dapper lantern]

I’m doing good, thanks for asking

[idle beacon]

@sullen berry yea .. seems like this season is all the way of upsidedowns

[dapper lantern]

nice, kyo

[idle beacon]

atleast SHD won again 😃

[balmy wolf]

wait did the killfeed just rearrange itself

[dapper lantern]

lmao unkoe

that was so sad

[plucky rune]

MIRROR HAMMOND

THIS IS THE YOTTACHAD EFFECT

[dapper lantern]

hunters, my god

this match

[balmy wolf]

this stage

[plucky rune]

the hunters i know and love

[dapper lantern]

I love it

[plucky rune]

elsa and ameng know each other on a spiritual level

[dapper lantern]

🙌🏽

[idle beacon]

are sparks strong and worth to watch in a bit?

[plucky rune]

i get my hammeng

[dapper lantern]

spark has been looking good but I don’t know if they’re defeat titans good, but

today has been a series of upsets

so who really knows

[plucky rune]

3-3 on a dive map vs chengdu

what a meme

[dapper lantern]

domed

huge

nice emp

[inland pawn]

JINMU

[minor flame]

theres so much more cheering than usual

[dapper lantern]

I legitimately zoned out

[minor flame]

yet twitch viewership at 74k

damn

[plucky rune]

JINMU POPPING OFFFF

[dapper lantern]

heard screaming and zoned back in

[inland pawn]

they're cheering cus the teams arent playing goats

[minor flame]

fuel???

[plucky rune]

fuel isn't a team good enough to goats against chengdu

[pearl stratus]

I'm not super worried at the super late games anymore. With the review tool and stuff I wouldn't stay up late for OWL anyway.

[plucky rune]

and when chengdu does play goats into them chengdu will win anyways

[pearl stratus]

I'm only still watching because I'm off tomorrow.

[minor flame]

not sure where i rank Fuel

OGE is really fuckin good

but Zacharee most of the time isnt

[dapper lantern]

they’re not sure either

[minor flame]

i think theyre like the middle of the pack

[dapper lantern]

it’s okay

[minor flame]

this Chengdu setup right here is actually really fucking neat to watch

its like organized ladder

DAMN YXL

jinmu didnt ult

huh

eh it prob wouldve gotten eaten

[dapper lantern]

oga

[balmy wolf]

DF is starting to fall from being a mid tier team

[dapper lantern]

y e s

[minor flame]

GEE FUCKING GEE

IM SORRY I DOUBTED YOU CHENGDU

[dapper lantern]

amazing

[inland pawn]

ROLLED

[dapper lantern]

gg

fuel is furious

[minor flame]

ATLANTA REMAINS 20TH PLACE IN THE STAGE

FOR TODAY

[inland pawn]

Yvetal should be MVP dont @ me

[balmy wolf]

so the top 150 pick aero for team USA

[minor flame]

ehhhh

[balmy wolf]

their gonna regret that very soon

[minor flame]

Yveltal had some few mistakes there

that his habit is gonna have to fix

[dapper lantern]

oh my god

kyo has a fucking awful haircut

[minor flame]

chinese is so strict on pronounciation

damn

[dapper lantern]

well there’s different kinds and they differentiate based on the pronunciation

[minor flame]

yeah i know

[dapper lantern]

I know traditional and mandarin

[worn hornet]

is traditional the same as Cantonese?

[dapper lantern]

yes, traditional is just the

more cultured way to say it, I guess

[inland pawn]

wut

theres traditional and simplified chinese characters

[worn hornet]

less archaic, perhaps

[dapper lantern]

^

[inland pawn]

mandarin is the official language while cantonese is basically just a dialect

https://twitter.com/super_OW/status/1139382537594130437

Matthew DeLisi (@super_OW)

After a performance like that, I think it's clear who the right choice for the @DallasFuel assistant coach position was last year, and remains the right choice again this year.

Congratulations to @amengowl and the hunters for their dominant win over @AskJayne and the @Dal...

Twitter

super dropping that hot fiya

[dapper lantern]

o o f

[pearl stratus]

It's a perfect hit too

Because Jayne talked so much shit about the Chinese OWWC team.

Then got fucking CLAPPED by them in the OWWC.

Who were coached by?

RUI.

[dapper lantern]

that’s so shitty

[pearl stratus]

Casually reminder of this tweet as a 17 year old chinese boy shit all over a maple leaf.

https://twitter.com/askjayne/status/1058810715677515776?lang=en

Jayne (@AskJayne)

okay leave seriously fuck off

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[inland pawn]

Leave is kinda POGGERS tho

[pearl stratus]

That entire OWWC team was.

And they literally made Canada look like they were like..

The Botswana team.

[inland pawn]

[dapper lantern]

this music

I’m laughing so hard, what the fuck was that

[balmy wolf]

cant wait for leave to get into the hunters

[pearl stratus]

I was originally worried about Leave maybe not making the OWWC this year.

Then I remembered Jinmu.

[inland pawn]

is jinmu even comparable to how dominant leave was

[pearl stratus]

Also

Supers Tweet is a reply to Jayne tweeting the same thing to him

About Muma being picked over him last year.

It's not -that- spicy.

[inland pawn]

yeh

[minor flame]

WHY ARE WE STILL NOT GETTING KRYSTAL

[dapper lantern]

this is supposed to be the match I pay most attention to but my focus is at its end

[minor flame]

i still

have no idea why

they want to put adora instead of krystal

[dapper lantern]

fuck it, I’m just going to let it play and call it a night

[minor flame]

"whats the point of taking the teamfight"

not fucking losing wtf

put in krystal pls

[inland pawn]

NA ults

[plucky rune]

bumper doomfist pls

[pearl stratus]

Btw, including S1 the Shanghai Dragons are no longer the worst team in the league after today.

They officially passed Florida.

[inland pawn]

yea but florida has the best alternative jersey so are they really the worst team in the league?

[trim shadow]

scus me what chengdu beat dallas?

[gaunt acorn]

yep

[trim shadow]

yep

dallas has hit the low

went from on fire

to QUENCHED

[inland pawn]

GOD

XUE

[supple prism]

titans washed as well?

[dapper lantern]

y’all

[jagged crater]

titans and shock mental boomin

[dapper lantern]

I started sweating and I needed to come back and I see

[gaunt acorn]

don't count them out yet

they can bleed, but can they lose?

[dapper lantern]

never mind

[jagged crater]

beat the MEAT

[dapper lantern]

I’m turning back over

[inland pawn]

wtf

[gaunt acorn]

case in point

[dapper lantern]

I woke up for nothing

[balmy wolf]

hey guys whats hapening

i am back

[gaunt acorn]

[supple prism]

support line seemed to have saved them

[balmy wolf]

oh cool pink vs blue

spark seems pretty good

[worn hornet]

god damn that EMP charging

[jagged crater]

titans getting spawn camped

[dapper lantern]

wait a goddamn second

oh my fucking god

[inland pawn]

WTF ROLLED LUL

[supple prism]

oh yea, Spark is 6th overall

[karmic grotto]

being honest

SPark oculd have got numbani

[balmy wolf]

i am enjoying this stage so much and its only second week

[karmic grotto]

if they waited for Adora and went back

hiding behind corner

[echo quest]

64k yikessss

[karmic grotto]

tjhey had the time for it

[balmy wolf]

Why are titans running sombra

titans will spawncamp harder

or not i guess

[jagged crater]

when did spark get so good

[balmy wolf]

idk man

[dapper lantern]

oh my god

[balmy wolf]

this is nice

titans wilkl win tho

yeah

stage full of both surprises and siappointments

[inland pawn]

omg

omfg

[dapper lantern]

actually threw

literally

[balmy wolf]

yep

[karmic grotto]

literally throwing

and choking

more choking

[balmy wolf]

this is a lesson to not get your hopes up

ever

[inland pawn]

literally could have won 3-1

[dapper lantern]

like

[karmic grotto]

keep your head cool

[jagged crater]

it's ok avast RFEJKL

[idle beacon]

trash titans winning only because of dumb failures of sparks

[dapper lantern]

first he translocates accidentally

[idle beacon]

i so hate the titans .. overhyped shit team

[balmy wolf]

i also do not like titans

[dapper lantern]

and then emps when everyone is graved so it’s pointless

[balmy wolf]

but hey

[karmic grotto]

Titans wins by punishing mistakes but man, when you break Titans coordination

[balmy wolf]

this is the titans equeivalent of shock vs reign

[karmic grotto]

theyre shitty

[dapper lantern]

had that and then handed it right back

[balmy wolf]

they are gonna get beat by some mid tier/bottom tier team too

[supple prism]

nah, they pushed before he could get into position to emp

[karmic grotto]

legit

Spark could have won twice

[balmy wolf]

well titans are good are making clutch plays

[dapper lantern]

whoa seominsoo is actually kinda cute 👀

[karmic grotto]

clutch plays when team chokes

yeh

[balmy wolf]

mark my words, when they lose they lose to an unexpected team

well good titans for taking advantage on it

[idle beacon]

lol

[balmy wolf]

good teams will always punish small mistakes

[karmic grotto]

I still can see gladiators winning

they can do it

[balmy wolf]

shock dont go to finals, titans get beat at finals

xd

OR

titans get beat BEFORE FINALS

spark still is kind of shaky towards the end of maps

that would make this stage so much better

[idle beacon]

@balmy wolf agreed .. they aren't so powerful like alot think .. i bet nyxl will eat them this stage

[balmy wolf]

titans and shock downgraded so hard this stage

[karmic grotto]

"I hate this bullshit. Every time the Titans get pushed to the brink they scrape by by the skin of their teeth or get bailed out by some goofy shit."

[balmy wolf]

^

i say stage 4 is when the titans lose

[dapper lantern]

alright we’ll

[karmic grotto]

some guys comment on thread

literally escaping

if teams knew how to keep chasing

Titans would have no chance of winning

[dapper lantern]

I

I’m still at a loss

[supple prism]

i dont think titans really changed much at all

[dapper lantern]

that could not have been more in favor of spark

[idle beacon]

sbb will eat the titans

[supple prism]

Spark have improved though

[balmy wolf]

oh yea titans were just making all the right micro plays

[dapper lantern]

sparkcord is furious

[balmy wolf]

haha

gimme the link

i wanna see it

[gaunt acorn]

overhyped shit team lol

undefeated all season btw

1 stage championship

[balmy wolf]

they were actually under hyped before the season started

people thought spitfire was still number 1

[gaunt acorn]

some people just hate to see success

[idle beacon]

is it on purpose that nyxl never faces titans in th regular stages ?

[balmy wolf]

no

its random

and you can't predict how good teams will be

[dapper lantern]

I messaged it to you @balmy wolf

[supple prism]

nyxl vs titans is one of the last few matches in stage 4

[gaunt acorn]

nyxl got slapped by titans in stage playoffs

nyxl have long since fallen from their top dog spot

[idle beacon]

which stage playoffs?

[balmy wolf]

2

[supple prism]

NYXL still holding 2nd overall

[balmy wolf]

to be expected

[dapper lantern]

I shouldn’t have tuned back in

[gaunt acorn]

i'm not saying nyxl is bad by any means

[balmy wolf]

they only lost 2 games

[gaunt acorn]

but to imply they're better than titans

and call titans an overhyped shit team

[idle beacon]

sbb is back

just wait and see

[gaunt acorn]

hahaha

[supple prism]

NYXL is still 14-2 to Shocks 12-4

[balmy wolf]

you're acting like sombra goats is the answer to beating titans

[idle beacon]

i will call them overhyped shit team for like forever. nothing you can do about it 😛 .. i don't like'm

[balmy wolf]

they weren't overhyped in the beginning, they were actually rated pretty low

[dapper lantern]

^

[gaunt acorn]

so then just say you don't like them

i don't like shock but they aren't shit or overrated

[idle beacon]

when i started watching OWL again, they were hyped af

i never watched contenders

[gaunt acorn]

some people didn't even rank titans in the top 8 (top 10?)

prior to the season beginning

[idle beacon]

ye, i wasn't watching / following owl before it started again

[balmy wolf]

Im just saying titans were consider underdogs coming in, it was only when they stomped stage 1 that everyone realize they were a powerhouse

[gaunt acorn]

well their record speaks for itself

[dapper lantern]

I don’t think they’re overhyped, I think they’re just easily gravitated towards because people like good teams and/teams that win
makes it easy to root for them, that’s also why a lot of people like nyxl

[gaunt acorn]

they're literally undefeated in the regular season and are the top team standings-wise

and have a stage championship under their belt

[idle beacon]

see .. did ya just heard what sideshow said?

[supple prism]

no

[idle beacon]

he said titans didnt deserve the win

[balmy wolf]

and yet the titans won

[gaunt acorn]

3-1

[idle beacon]

yea .. luckyness .. as usual

[balmy wolf]

if you're the spark, its you're fault that you choke away 2 maps

[gaunt acorn]

you think they got lucky for 3 consecutive stages

not dropping a single match

[idle beacon]

also true .. i dont get how spark screwed that up twice

[balmy wolf]

spark were making mistakes that shouldn't happen

titans took advantage of that and won

[idle beacon]

they lost to sfs .. nott dropping a single match?????

[dapper lantern]

regular season

[gaunt acorn]

that isn't a regular season match

[supple prism]

playoffs dont count

[balmy wolf]

^

[idle beacon]

still they lost .. explain

[gaunt acorn]

we just did

[idle beacon]

where

[supple prism]

they also played more maps

[balmy wolf]

they lost the stage 2 finals

[dapper lantern]

🤔

[balmy wolf]

but are still unbeaten in the regular season

[supple prism]

gonna have to wait until stage 4 for shock titans rematch

[gaunt acorn]

lose 1 match in a stage finals after winning the previous inals and still being undefeated in the regular season after 2+ stages

[idle beacon]

i did ask how / why they lost the finals 😮

[gaunt acorn]

lol shit overrated team

[balmy wolf]

shock were playing out of their minds

and wanted revenge

[idle beacon]

in the end finals count .. no regular season

[gaunt acorn]

nobody is saying they didn't lose a match lmao

[dapper lantern]

I don’t get the argument that’s being had, honestly. I wouldn’t say I’m an outright die hard Titans fan but I respect them and I respect how they play. They’re far from garbage, they might play a little sloppy but what team doesn’t?

[gaunt acorn]

it's objectively true they have not lost a match in the regular season

[idle beacon]

thats like saying .. barca were strong regulary .. who cares they didnt win champions league 😛

[upper niche]

Yes, but before the end the regular season counts, and the stage finals mean nothing.

[balmy wolf]

^

stage finals is bragging rights and money, thats it

[upper niche]

Stage finals wins won't break a tie or push you up the ladder when it comes to finals qualification and seeding.

[balmy wolf]

regular season is the real important thing

[idle beacon]

i would agree .. wouldn't it be about a shitload of money

[upper niche]

It's a very small shitload.

[gaunt acorn]

like the money they got from winning the stage 1 finals

[balmy wolf]

its $500,000 right?

[upper niche]

Prizemoney in OWL is pretty meh.

[dapper lantern]

no

[idle beacon]

isn't it 1.5m ?

1.25

[dapper lantern]

that’s all together, first place is 200k

[upper niche]

The pool is 500k. It's a 200/100/50/50/25/25/25/25 breakdown

[idle beacon]

oh wait .. season finals is havin 1.25m ?

[balmy wolf]

its 3.5 mil

[idle beacon]

😮

[balmy wolf]

prize pool anyway

but yea titans have left a legacy like no other

i think the thing is

when the titans dont have enough skill to win a game they have to depend on their mental fortitude

in a game of mentals titans win by a wide margin

mental state is what divides top teams from the rest

thats why its frustrating to see teams come so close to beating them and choke while titans stay consistent

[idle beacon]

lol @ jake

[balmy wolf]

the most tilted i've seen them was the match against chengdu

[gaunt acorn]

that match was rough

[balmy wolf]

if you have 2 perfectly mechanically skill teams, then the one with the better mental health wins

[gaunt acorn]

hollywood especially

[balmy wolf]

titans have been in worst situations than this

and it pays off for clutches moments

which is why its so hard to close out a win from them even when on paper the other team should win

its not them pulling by the skin of their teeth, its them staying consistent while the other team just falls apart mentally

[idle beacon]

soooo .. sfs were mentally healthier in the finals vs titans?

[balmy wolf]

they were more experienced to nervous stuff

it depends on the situation

[dapper lantern]

well, that was more like them not prioritizing targets lmao

[balmy wolf]

but yea shock was expected to win the whole thing

[gaunt acorn]

shock were driven by revenge

[balmy wolf]

I mean shock didn't drop a map in stage 2 soo.....

spark should have won but they didn't have ironclad mental fortitude as the titans did

but yea that game was tense

spark was so close

[dapper lantern]

oh well

[balmy wolf]

titans came close as runaway and failed a whole lot of times

so they have more experiene

[dapper lantern]

a lesson for them and I hope they pay attention to it

[balmy wolf]

one the most tense matches ever imo was titans vs kdp in contenders 2018, they reverse swept them when they were down 3-1

and took the it to round 3

[dapper lantern]

time to watch something funny
until tomorrow 👋🏽

[idle beacon]

bye @dapper lantern

did atl bench kodak or even removed him or why is he in atl's contenders team now?

[balmy wolf]

probs want playtime

[sullen berry]

nice work reruns

i didn't think you could make it even harder to tell if it's a rerun

by skipping the preshow altogether and jumping right into outlaws vs shock

[vast geode]

Wtf I check Reddit to see results and Outlaws beat Shock?

Time to change the circle of suck I guess

[gaunt acorn]

https://twitter.com/6arks/status/1139344982005956615

fay (@6arks)

🔊 SOUND ON 🔊

INSIDE look at the @SFShock comms last match https://t.co/IyjZ1KA9l7

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[oak bloom]

stop

[daring bear]

Can someone please tell me does owl have drafting @everyone

[vast geode]

[gaunt acorn]

@daring bear that's absolutely not going to work

no it does not have a draft

i mean there's some rules with academy teams getting first bid on their contenders players

but otherwise, no

[echo quest]

Nah owl doesn’t have a draft.

[daring bear]

So how sfs player go to out law @gaunt acorn

[gaunt acorn]

@daring bear they traded

[daring bear]

Oh trades happen but they don't do yearly draft like nfl or other sports

[gaunt acorn]

correct

when the trade window is open, teams are permitted to trade between each other

but for general player signing, most are simply signed from the minor leagues (contenders)

[daring bear]

But we do get to see it

[gaunt acorn]

promising players are offered contracts and.. that's about it

no, it's not an event

99% of the time it's a discord or twitter dm saying "we'd like you to tryout" or, y'know, something comparable

and then it's handled behind closed doors

[daring bear]

Seriously they should do draft that way new strategy game play come out n it be awesome

[gaunt acorn]

during the off-season big signings and trades are a source of news, though

[daring bear]

People would pay to see it

[gaunt acorn]

yeah, there could be merit to the draft system

but ultimately they felt it wouldn't work too well in esports/owl

[daring bear]

Hhhmmm

Thanks 😊 man

Have a good day

[gaunt acorn]

you as well

[echo quest]

@daring bear Drafts wouldn’t really work because there isn’t enough talent which would be an upgrade to a roster. Plus what happens if a player like Alarm gets drafted by a cheap ass org like Mayhem who can only give him 75k which for someone like him his salary should be much higher. Drafts would just unfair towards players. Players would be forced to play for teams against their own will.

[daring bear]

@echo quest are you saying Florida mayham is cheap

[echo quest]

They are very cheap

[gaunt acorn]

absolutely

their org is notoriously a bunch of cheapasses

[daring bear]

They have big streamers

[gaunt acorn]

so

[echo quest]

They had one of their players as a bus driver my guy

[gaunt acorn]

that doesn't invalidate how much they've cheaped out on both their parent org (misfits) and the florida mayhem

worst team in overwatch league btw

[echo quest]

Yessir

[daring bear]

I get it these streamers who sign up for cheap don't care about money they care about status

[gaunt acorn]

being cheap and having no money at all are not the same thing

[echo quest]

^

[gaunt acorn]

mayhem cheaped out on their roster, cheaped out on their support staff, cheaped out on their player accommodations

cheaped out on rebuilding

[echo quest]

Florida has money they aren’t broke like Optic

[gaunt acorn]

cheaped out on building a fanbase

[echo quest]

^

[daring bear]

But they just don't use it

[gaunt acorn]

right

that's what cheap means; that's the definition

[echo quest]

That’s what we mean

[gaunt acorn]

having money and not wanting to spend it

[daring bear]

The streamers they got don't care of pay raise cause they like just care to be called pros