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charge beating hunters with there own comp
and nanoing soldier is better than nanoing mccree
gets away with 1 because of reload
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hunters have to be hurt for losing to there own comp
literally got mirrored and lost
Happy is p fucking insane

i wish there werent 4 matches in 1 day
? why?
ohhh
they werent trying..
lol
not taking it serious
instead of training for the owl they trained for a 30 second video
spent hours for that 30 sec
another mirror?
Widowmaker PogU
Charge is doing
a really good fuckin job at pincer attacking
harassing every side of Hunters
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
sad
THE YOTTACHAD SHATTER
did he fat finger that nano?
big oof
its odd n more fun to see than goats
I really like watching goats
this....this is just messy and doesnt represent pro play in the slightest
says nobody
this is teams playing what there strong at
and not submitting to meta
like most of theese 4head coaches are doing
you say that like they are revolting against a higher authority
pretty much they are
which is what?
Guangzhou
is like
are like the Kings
of getting the score points
to a ridiculous high amount
well this is disappointing from the hunters
I like watching good goats and teams that arent good at goats do something their own way
Hunters just went the altter
I like good gameplay, seeing them overcome a situation, this is Double sniper all over again, waiting for someone to get a pick
4-2
Hunters please dont go goats
just do what youre good at
or atleast put in Jiqiren
probs gonna go full time goats once jiqiren starts scrimming
you get the widow into a wide position and you wait for them to get a pick
its not just waiting for them to get a pick
its zoning in a way, making the enemy hug corners and dodging the widow while there team can chase or any number of options
see
theyre playing flankers and hammond
thats not really something you can do as widow
they just kept going after the widow over and over again
@dreamy cave you mean making space right? that is what they did in season 1
Hunters are just not confident in themselves like this
you should not go goats like this
they were probably expecting charge to go goats so they can try to out damage them
but charge is probably expecting it
Chengdu is losing their wacky comp ness
and every other chinese team
is improving in that
how ironic
except for Hangzhou
Eileen wasnt even invisible on top of that truck, they didnt even look to see if he was there
im surprised charge isn't doing doom goats
doom goats would be amazing to see
doom goats is pretty popular in contenders
china and kr contenders
before the nerf
look at that double sniper
wtf is this fight
double sniper
hammond knocking hammond
Ameng PogU
micah in front F
they summoned cringe with that star
jeez hunters are getting out dps
they seriously need to get jirqen on the starting lineup
Deja vu?
sad
YXL
DOUBLE TEAMED JUST TO KILL
this is just sad to watch
Tbagging
holy fuck
wowwww
WTF LOOOOOOL
LETS GO CHARGE
gg no re
F no shield
both guangzhou and chengdu are now 6-9
welp hunters better start getting better at goats now
jiqiren needs to be activated
welcome to Hunters Gym
time to see what the hypes about
ooo
the frustration on late unable to do that jump lol
If Charge has already won with 3-0 why do they do the 4th?
map differential
Im way too spoiled on Titans goats...everything else just looks bad...
Its not possible for Hunters to come back for an overall win right?
Sorry for dumb questions, first time watching OWL
and what purpose does that serve? Ranking?
it helps with tie breakers for the end, so you can try to get into playoffs
even if you lose the game, if you have more map wins than someone who matches your win/loss, then you will be above them
Oh is this not elimination?
well you can be eliminated as the games go on where its statistically impossible for you to make playoffs
Oh
only 8 get into stage playoffs
I should do some reading lol. Thanks for the answers
no problem ask any time you need
I just want to see valiant and fall asleep
lol
if someone told me valiant would be the new shanghai dragons, I'd laugh and call them crazy
I want to fall asleep because I got work in the morning
wow
sweatin hard
Jiqiren should have played earlier smh
lul no shax for ksf?
HTF do you pronounce FCTFCTN?
factfiction @upper niche
fact fiction
How long did dive lasted?
And now goats?
less
its also been a good year
Exactly which season did dive start?
vancouver was running kr contenders season 2
And for goats?
Yikes Just saw the Mayhem vs Seoul match thread
cant measure by seasons
Fate boutta yeet out of there by the end of the season
goats was like end of s1 contenders about
are they really not playing shax
lets go dragons :0
@balmy wolf activetly throwing
Yikes
another fucking eat
how do you lose that fight
early emp
Yeet
Oh valiant what happened to you
6 minutes yikes
isn't the record 6 min and 5 secs or something
Does watching twitch stream give out drops still?
valiant is still in the middle of a coaching adjustment
fact and shax arent gonna magically make stage 1 not happen
@verbal roost yes

no, shock still hold fastest and second fastest
yea they broke dragons record in the same match
twice
back to back
i cant find what the record was
Everything counts lol
a desparate one
actual trash Q
hey does anyone know if you acct still gets OWL tokens even if its suspended for like 5 days
probably
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sit in spawn fools

got caught slacking
can't wait for this 4-0 to really be a 4-0
first game jitters for factt
back in owl
ofc
or shanghai is really the number 4 team
gg no re
right shanghai is the number 4 team
at least dding is playing more dva
he needs his dva to come into form against tougher opponents
are the dragons on a win streak?
that shit is odd asf
supers shater hit it n it disappeared
That seems a little too well-timed a pause.
youngjin looks like geguri
woww
oh that boop
hurts
sucks to be dding

they lost to sf in stage 2 week 5
just realized most of the alternative jersey teams lost
espect like san fran
by a pico meter
a litteral fucking pico meter
at least they won
The divinia S2 feels SO light compared to the deathadder - if anyones looking into mice hmu lol I just did a ton of research before I purchased
Or if you just wanna talk about mice ๐

there, that's gonna be florida's intro like chengdu had today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZDJSHz5wsw
Classic art piece of the legendary Maniac Synth (RIP) https://soundcloud.com/sellorekt https://ladreams.bandcamp.com/
can you not
not you, somebody else advertising in this channel
ah
dont tell me that florida change is not permanent
first day of the stage i got 100 tokens so thats fun
how did shock almost lose to atlanta
rusty
@restive totem
basically playing hyper aggresive and disengaging almost very good
punishing out of positioned players keeping super discorded
just happened they won because dacos toe nail couldnt touch point
so instead of making the game free, and giving us, 222, they just cancel OW and making OW2... great
if ow2 is not free, its dead on arrival man
Lol
They've already hinted, more than heavily, that its not a pvp shooter anyway.
People just don't know how to read.
It's looking like it'll end up an OW Borderlands type of deal.
Or OW Left 4 Dead, etc.
Cancelled Starcraft, shifted focus to Diablo 4 and OW2 (which is PvE)
Why would they cancel OW
I know
Why would anyone think OW2 would be like OW.
They're scuba divers. Instead of using a helmet they just shove their heads up their asses ๐
It's always the same people too.
i mean shit. Jeff already had told us he was making a pve game when he answered questions about a Campaign mode.
It would be one thing if new consoles came out since OW was released
if someone told me ow 2 was rumored and leaked i wouldve shot them in the face
well take any fact with a grain of salt, any info about this that's out right now is through employees telling stuff annonymously through journalist
but seeing as ow doesnt have any lore
and ow 2 pve version is reasonable
starcraft fps was always doomed to fail tho so if it got shafted for a ow2 and diablo 4 its believeable to a extent
if its a PVE game, the real title is probably not gonna be OW2
if they were to announce OW2 and it wasn't a pvp game, that would create confusion
It's a working title
i blame jason shreiyer calling it ow2
Overwatch 2 is a ugly title
Thats why its 99.9% a working title.
Rather than saying "Unnamed OW Sequel/Spinoff"
We'll know more in November.
Anyone has videos about an explanation on bumblebee comp?
^
Or any team scrim that anyone is willing to share?
So if anyone didnโt want goats, you still have sombra-goats
Bumblebee and clockwork would be nice actually
Clockwork meta is overrated
Toronto 3-1 paris
London 3-1 boston
Nyxl 5-0 houston
Gla 3-2 dallas
Nyxl 6-0 houston
1 for houstons soul
1 turning muma straight after this beatdown
gotta have to admit
boston overrated
but you'd be crazy if you think boston isn't going to make it a close game
just not to the level where you had striker/gamsu/mistakes carry like last year
It's London.
London is a team that can challenge an elite team and lose to a bottom team.
Always has been.
Just study the tape from Hangzhou if you're 18+ since technically its viewing adult material with the rape that occurred that day.
That london spawn camp in stage 1 i think was Rated A for Adult
It was so brutal brutal is a understatement
Boston vs London is hard to call because London are inconsistent and Boston were weird at the end of stage 2 as well
I'd put my money on London though
I'm leaning towards London but only at 60-40.
seems realistic
But so far this stage is a bit odd.
If Atlanta had put their dog to sleep, they would be 1-0 so far in the Stage.
yeah it was super weird
It's not weird, really.
Im not sure if GZC looked better or if Chengdu was just bad
Dogman has always been Dogshit. he just gets defended like crazy by ATL fans because he stands up and yells things.
I couldnt really watch yesterday so I barely know anything
I saw Dogman pressing Q whenever someone breathed at him though
Basically: Atlanta outplayed a very rusty looking uncoordinated Shock.
Until Dogman, single-handedly, put the Shock on his back and carried them to victory.
did they just catch shock off-guard or why is the best team in the league rusty
They probably took the entire break off.
Crusty probably thought they deserved it and could afford doing it
With Atlanta as their first team? I would have thought so too.
still not the best idea
Atlanta, no matter how many times they beat NYXL, is still the team that lost to LAV.
atlanta also lost to Guangzhou
They should just brainwash him to improve his trans usage
But with Dafran gone his antics are the face of the team.
So I wonder how long they'll hold onto him because of that.
Even though it clearly, obviously, and often loses them games.
Just release him. He's good enough for Contenders and a different team, but he hasn't fit their roster either.
might just keep him for PR reasons. Only german in the league
But other than that I dont see a reason to keep him
Yeah daco is insane but apparently hes a Diva
I mean with the amount that he backpacked the team last night
Idk what korean zen to replace him with
i dont think Dogman is a vital shotcaller either so he should be easy to replace
I mean you're not going to get an of-age non-Korean Zen who isn't shit right now. And they have to not piss off Daco, if rumors are true about him hissy fitting over his flex support being garbage.
They literally got FRD as a backup so they could bench Daco for his behavior
It's a pity that Florida kept hago.
Because he would have been a solid pick up.
For them, at least.
literally the only consistent player on Florida.
Angry Titans basically just got dismantled to roster academies, but I don't think Afoxx would be a good replacement into that roster.
Bock could work, but honestly I wouldn't want to invest in Bock.
he's too old.
afoxx didnt impress me in the showdown
AT had so many double support ults it was infuriating
I give them a bit of leeway on that.
Iirc it was their first LAN event.
And LAN jitters are real.
Everything happens so much faster.
yeah thats fair but it still happened way too often imo
Agreed over the length of everthing it should have cleared up. But then again I think everyone was surprised that EU got dominated that easily.
hey @pearl stratus
you seen Nero perform ?
you think he'll replace Happy?
I think Nero looks excellent but he'll have to consistently pump up that kinda performance
@pearl stratus They should have dropped hago he deserves a better team. Fate is gonna yeet out of there come off-season
We has a perfect chance to beat san fran
Uk who cucked it?
Babybay and his fucking fat buffaloo dipping fingers
And dog isnt no saint either
Nero will be situational if anything based on what I've seen.
Babybay outpaced Sinatraa on Gravs most of the game, and minus a few didn't really have anything happen minus two really important eats. Dogman literally fucked his team constantly the entire game by replacing 90% of his keyboard with the Q button.
An expert Zenyatta bot has better ult usage than that moron.
how much did he play?
Shoutout to the old school, absolutely unreal 1v1 between Taimou and Bunny. Kept an eye on him ever since:
https://clips.twitch.tv/ToughDreamyChimpanzeeTheRinger
Hope he polishes his pool and gets picked back up.
He didn't play much in LAV, they didn't utilize him properly. His pool was growing too. He was back on Widow and McCree a lot.
are they playing on the dva nerf/mcree buff patch yet?
Fucking mongoloids don't even know about pink planes in WW2.
The alternate Defiant jersey looks so weird
Well Aid is (imo) better and can speak English
idk about the difference in shotcalling between Aid and Roky
But they need as many people that can understand Sharyk and Gods in the starting 6 as possible
Hey so i got banned on twitch for something i didnt do, i dont have access to it. Already contacted twitch but didnt get response yet. but im watching OWL on the blizzard launcher rn, do i get Tokens for doing it in the launcher too?
Gods looks good in that jersey wont lie
He looks decent in it but I dont really like their jersey
cuz soon is a bad zarya
im still confused why Paris didnt change anything over the mid season break
Maybe budgeting issues
why isnt envy playing
and 3k
nice bomb
very nice
And boop
ok
Envy has no existing cohesion with Sharyk.
So he's useless now.
So if you're playing Sharyk, youll be playing Gods.
so gods seems like the player toronto needed
And since Yakpung was Yeah....dung
Dude that was one round
I suspect Sharyk will be in all the time.
Endoken you think envy will be traded?
No
But yeah Sharyk is an upgrade
Mostly because the only team that could use him would be maybe Florida, but they're hard commited to Xepher.
Also its only been one game.
envy might build synergy with sharyk as well but gods will be the prefered choice for a while
Envy also wasn't a problem. Just Yakpung.
Gods is already a fan favourite I think lul
Gods is a meme master
Wash is poor. Sansam is coachable.
You can rub his head for good luck
I don't forsee them spending more money after their support investment
Mhm
If I were the Justice I would want my money back for Janus
I'd want it back for Hyeong more.
He must have been expensive and just hasnt shown a lot of potential so far
There has been no noticeable coached improvement on a lot of the players.
Hyeong and Janus were probably a package deal
NYXL: "Sorry, can't hear you from the top of the league"
that overextend
And Benbest got his first good shatter of the season.
it was pretty smart but they got sloppy at the end
Also in case anyone was wondering why Londons 3rd Kit Uni is pink
Since Sideshow and Brent are morons
yeah but that fight they lost they got another ult back
They forced ults, bodyblocked but the Dva got through
Pink was used for spy planes in WW2
anoter grav
Specifically on the spitfires.
BOOP
that lost fight got them grav and shatter back
nice 1st game for the new tank duo
yeah it looked kinda clean
im not gonna judge the new tank duo off of one map against Paris
i like pink london
The pink london looks clean, but I wanted to explain why since they couldn't lol
This link might work..
i hope we dont get anymore disappearing bombs
which teams didn't get new jersey's?
titans didn't do one
Seoul didnt get one
Paris Eternal now looks like Mike Myers in his Sprockets SNL Skit
NYs new jersey is pretty sick too
LAV has a really clean new jersey.
DF jersey is so ehhh
some teams didnt even try to get a good new jersey
just black
Honestly probably one of my favorites.
I like sparks
I expected more from Sparks, to be honest.
the worst one has to be Fusion though
Since they have an entire art team.
hooray... bunker time...
Come on, snowball for toronto
Dive?
A female horse
kinky
Most ranks are bunker its so stupid difference in gm they have a better hog combo
The Winston isnt ideal against Bunker
It's a 50-50. It's bad against the Bastion, but the Primal is great against the Baptiste.
watching dive v bunker like this sucks ass
should whinstog dive in with genji?
it follows the same
Dont you rely on nano blade against bunker like this?
All the dive guys should go together
OOF
fail cause immortality
Nano Blade + EMP.
when paris is only good at bunker 
until ults
You can nanoblade, EMP, etc
Emp isnt always needed but yesh true
Displace with primal and then focus single targets
So sad
sad
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Ivygenji is literally contemplating
not sure why paris are running zen
back to goats
Quick collapse on Paris side, honestly.
defensive ult?
like for 10 secs

Very sad
everyone just fucking pounced on Sharyk
this map is so boring to watch
Don't worry, Bunker is the next meta if people push for the changes they want.
So all the maps can be like this!
Wait for havana its such a bad map
seriously why is paris in the map pool
havana is so hitscan strong
Sniper specifically
hanzo, macree, 76, sombra, ash. they'll love it
^
hanzo mccree 76 sombra and widow
And still completely countered by D'va, regardless of DM range.
Also Bob is trash.
so TD can only draw now?
for payload yeah he sucks
yes
Ye
Bob is like a better torb turret
idk about everything if ur playig something like 2cp
But for composed play he's way too easy to shut down by WAY too many heroes.
My favorite fact is that -still- after nerfs
Reaper can 1v1 a BoB.
And outheal his damage.\
having him stall for point or throwing bob into the backline
also
that primal was sick
Again, great for ladder.
But think about the OWL games you've seen.
How many times have you seen a Primal'd Winston just get MELTED.
That's all Bob is, if you don't sleep/hack/boop him.
i agree bob is situational, but i dont think hes that useless. more so ash herself is
no their just good at bunker
they only won the map only because aid used beat too early and got graved
Toronto looks good
ima call him shark tbh
Ilios was a blowout, but paris was close,so toronto is definitely better
yeah
5-2 in stage 1 for TD
We had a really hard stage 2
Bishop looking like huk
then stellar left and then bad coaching happened
Hard schedule, and retirements
i dont think any team is going to make it to the final point of Havana tbh
not for a while
what happened with coaching? Didn't hear anything about that
im37 on zarya
Oh yeah
just why
Lots of swapping
its gonna be rare to see a 3rd point complete
I see Soe's in her Easter best
I wanna see the league turn on its head once dps come back, and every team shuffle around the standings
props to bren for pointing out yesterday's biggest challenges on Havana
i promise you no team will finish havana with alot of time. u can @ me on that
I'd love a 4-1-1 meta
4-1-1?
4 dps, 1 tank, 1 support
4 dps, one tank,โyeah that
4 support, 1 tank, 1 dps
by far the hardest to spectate
obviously,lol
Supportal Combat meta
they dont have heals, cant get on point\
they couldn't focus the zarya
the beat still couldnt get it for them
i call paris
okay a good 
why hold the shatter for so long
he never had a opening
got grav, ults, TD held
is it HAVANA time yet
nope
phew
sharky keeps getting eaten alive
nooooo
poor toronto ๐ฆ
so much for defiant being better
give the tankline time
they have the skill, but the language barrier is problematic
ivy using grav :/
what
Look at Zenyatta's HP.
oh
The Rally armor is below Zenyatta's shields.
oh yea they never updated that
Never?
i haven't checked in here in a long time and barely watch league right now
so goats is still a thing huh?
in OWL yes
why change what they have been practicing for months
if it still works
NOOOOOOOO

that was a good ending
Uprising alternate should've been a burning T train
being put out with a dunk's XL iced
woah new support line
why isn't Nus playing?
Yeah buts its Uprising who are hella inconsistent
probs doesn't help that Boston are using a different support line
shit i fell asleep
you think NYXL will play pine w/ the new mccree today?
new mccree?
prob cause they are playing an easier team.
oh right
i hope so
probably about to sell him
you already know what time it is
my babies are playing, which is why Iโm here
time to be mad at the Uprising front office for trading away Note then keeping RCK only playing the D.Va that Note's better than him on?
god i need those jerseys
yโall already know how much I love Mano
bitch please Mayhem jerseys are the GOAT
someone needs a raise
i cant wait to see fusion's jerseys
Pretty sure they're the Philadelphia Referee Impersonators this weekend
why are they doing this
well then
you know you canโt run goats mirror wtf
goats mirror vs nyxl? That's a paddlin
goats mirror vs anyone
goats mirror when you specifically traded to get someone better at flexing away from goats
yo
Close match 
they literally called them out for being shit at goats/goats mirror and they still insist on running it into xl
you deserve what happens next
bleeding blue 
dps for well plz?
brig lucio orisa roadhog...shit who else has boops?
YEEHAW
dva & winston I guess
i think the nyxl should have done the orisa
JAKE LUL
nope
They always switch after dying
They won a fight PogU

Watch Houston give people hope then get rolled anyway
suprising
nah, I donโt think theyโre the loudest but
they have one of the most annoying fan bases
No matter the team, you always hear shrieks from the crowd
holy hell NY playing like trash
goddamn it, I look away to play animal crossing and some bullshit is going down
mumas rein pepelaugh
questionable plays at the end there
could this be the night I become an Outlaws fan?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
J@KE
LMFAO
NYXL water u doin
ayeeee

why would you ever do that to begin with
Get pine out here already
my 2 least favourite teams in the league so honestly I don't care who wins lmao
tee pee ess

tps reports
Wrecking Ball mains: Mano's a feeeder

alright, back to animal crossing
why the hell would mano chase muma and leave the point
he got the kill, he just tied getting back
Mano is really being around with as their engage in teamfights
It's not working out while they keep using these losses as a gauge of how terrible they are pulling off aggressive Goats pressure
this is classic nyxl
Mano just rolls in rather than waiting for overtime on lighthouse
in other news, jjonak is looking fine af as always
why should i even be surprised
That is new to me having to suicide lead without a followup
Incoming Sab
Now this is epic
my team didn't do a new jersey smh

SBBBBBBBB
@sullen berry yeah but I would have bought a charge one in an instant
Oh you know it
OHHHH SBB
Saeb!
not even a woman's fit but still
I actually dropped my ds lmao
100% purchase
I am happy now
Pls no SBB brig jail
heโs alive
wow sbb
Thats would be torture
for nyxl
audio lmao
Imagine being libero
They could definitely do it, with the dps talent in sbb and pine
libero is a great dps too
And due that audio malfunction
That was Semmler's 10 seconds of fame
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J LUL KE
Sbb on sombra...
i hate this map, even after the map changes, its just a dump
agree
better than Havana
Sombra isn't as evasive as tracer, eh?
NA GRAV
Nenne grav
Noncery?
LETS GO NYXL
you know, he won me over during the widowmaker 1v1 but then he does stuff like this
and he makes me mad
@sullen berry act of noncing
WHATS HAPPENING IM NOT WATCHING TODAY
@balmy wolf Outlaws 1-0 NYXL
Just linkzr aiming for heads
uh sbb
ok ok
And yes
J LUL K E
what map
1-0 of 2 maps rn
aw

LETS GOOOOO
lmaooo
Nice
is it a good match?
that was
U STILL TAKE THE DAMAGE
@balmy wolf nyxl holds defense on horizon lunar. Their turn to attack shortly
Jakerat?
I miss SBB Tracer 
Yes!
GENGU
oh, OWL live again. whats the meta ?
GIVE SBB TRACER
Nenne tracer, not sbb?
Triple dps at times @idle beacon
Now it is
Because houston is becoming self aware they can't play Goats against top teams
omg SBB PLAYING ๐
Jakerat is back
was danteh in outlaws last stage aswell?
gg
they need to literally do something
They are chanting Jakerat
how did they botch that
this is hard to watch
This is great. I love everything about it
but why is sbb sombra and not rracer?
gg go next
thank god
Why not really
sloppy
Hilarious
because nenne is doing fine
they really c9
is sbb's sombra solid?


