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little silo
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kind of insane that Rascal is in the top 10 just off of the few times where he played Bap

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but very impressive

hidden vault
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Does zen heal more then lucio?

pearl stratus
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It's mostly his brig, with clutch.

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Technically no.

hidden vault
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Cause of trans?

pearl stratus
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Only factoring in Trans.

hidden vault
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Hmm

pearl stratus
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Your healers in Goats tends to be Brig -> Zen -> Lucio, since your lucio is movement more often than not.

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And Zen is boosted by pretty constant high value Trans.

hidden vault
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Hmm

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I realised

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None of the titians are there

pearl stratus
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Yeah, which seems weird.

hidden vault
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Van probably gives up healing for aggression

pearl stratus
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Oh Twilights like .02% behind Aimgod.

hidden vault
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Also between shaz bigoose ripa

pearl stratus
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All of Titans sit at like 9.5-9.6k

hidden vault
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Isn't ripa the ana?

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Then they probably spread the healings out

pearl stratus
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It looks like all three are consistent with no healing carry, similar to shock.

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Shock having two of their three healers in the top 3 is telling.

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It also shows just how much healing Rascal does, and how little he dies.

hidden vault
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Rascal is probably boosted by bap

pearl stratus
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Depends, he's only 38th for deaths in the league which means his Brig gets to sit there and passive heal a LOT.

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His playtime on Bap is only 9.2%

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So thats not a lot of influence.

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88% base on Brig.

hidden vault
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Hmm

pearl stratus
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But he's one of the few players who doesn't bitch, whine, cry and throw for his team.

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He just plays well because he's not a garbage player.

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And yes, I'm saying everyone who whines about Brig then can't play her is garbage.

hidden vault
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XD

sand violet
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On high tier teams you still have a designated shot caller but as the person earlier said

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If zarya is calling for a fight and you can take a fight you call it, even if she's not the primary caller

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Even at a high level

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It's not something that you do often. You don't have 6 people calling when to take a fight at 6 different times

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But if zarya has a great opportunity for a play and can facilitate that by calling it she should and likely will

vale pond
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p sure lucio and zarya tend to be the main callers

supple prism
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the hell happened? mayhem academy and eternal academy dropped everyone?

vale pond
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eternal too?

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mayhem apparently wants to go full korean

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idk about eternal

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I just know they lost to CV

pearl stratus
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They went full korean a while ago.

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They can't for contenders.

plush patrol
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The only time Pine went on stage was during the All Stars, right?

upper niche
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That graph is pretty amazing in saying that Zen players have the most healing... but most of it probably comes from Trans.

vale pond
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it is yeah

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thousands at a time in grav combos

trim shadow
worn falcon
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Dogman

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pls

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Im surprised Ryu #3

upper niche
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Surprised Dafran still isn't up there.

balmy wolf
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im suprised there isn't a single titans jersey in there

pearl stratus
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Dafrans jersey was completely fucked, for months.

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So I'm not.

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His jersey sold to the initial wave of mongos but it was at a garbage quality.

balmy wolf
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aren't current fanatics still bad tho?

timid marlin
vale pond
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Dogman is quite popular

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Relatively good rookie, hell of a personality

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he’s kind of become the star of the reign personality wise now that dafran is gone

cinder solar
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7

minor flame
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Dogman?

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hes ok

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i kinda find him cringy at times though

hidden vault
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Hmm I thought babybay was supposed to fill that position?

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Atlanta has quite a number of progamer-streamer

slow walrus
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dogman is the only player on an expansion team to have a top selling jersey in stage 2

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he's a meme, he's building his fanbase, got a good personality and the right amount of spice

sullen berry
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International store pretty much justifying why they hike the prices up even more GWchadMEGATHINK

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AUS btw, that conversion to NZD is disgusting @forest raven

trim shadow
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what the fuck is that tax [roce?

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price*

slender lance
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Tax is a whole $85 ish

trim shadow
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is your country the soviet union?

hidden vault
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NZD

slender lance
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Unlucky

trim shadow
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new zeland?

sullen berry
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New Zealand

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but local prices online for international will default to Australian

sullen berry
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this made me chuckle

little silo
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Can I get an F for Florida

sullen berry
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I want to see more W for Washington

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it's enough time now for them to figure out plays instead of relying on clutch plays on hybrid/assault

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if they get it together, they will take a win off GZ without fail

fair heart
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Lol I just found this channel will make it easier to talk about the OWL @sullen berry

sullen berry
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You betcha

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Looking forward to the Pacific Showdown

trim shadow
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its tommorw or thursday

fair heart
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Yeah I agree, Washington is a good team but it seems like they are 6 individuals playing and not 1 team.

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Oh yeah when is the Pacific Showdown?

slender lance
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I bet if Washington picked up space or mcgravy from valiant it would be a good change

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The seem pretty weak in the off tank role

fair heart
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Hey @Obiwankenobi#2488 what do you play on, console or PC

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@sullen berry

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Agreed a good tank that can act as a leader to pull the team together would make a good edition

sullen berry
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PC

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Closest form of competition thati align with is AU and Pacific contenders

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So watching them face off against KR and China has me excitied, upset potential or conpletely rolled by the other regions

karmic grotto
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When is the showdown?

analog lark
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0-1 Florida versus NYXL

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it's like florida lost the first map in like a perfect game, and just forfeited

lost jacinth
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wait there's a game on soon?

analog lark
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no

lost jacinth
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aw

analog lark
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look at the twitch chat predicts stage 3

lost jacinth
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ahh

analog lark
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top right

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florida mayhem loses to NYXL 0-1

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so I'm theory crafting why that's the case

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from what I recall, you can only tie hybrid and 2cp

slender lance
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I'm surprised teams haven't forfited before

trim shadow
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why woud they?

slender lance
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I dunno

analog lark
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I don't think they allow you too

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to*

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as it messes up map differential or something

rapid bobcat
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If there is 1 player from the Titans that you want to meet, who would it be?

karmic grotto
analog lark
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none

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because I don't speak korean.

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if I were to pick someone, it'd probably be either Custa, SDB, or S4

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basically, I wouldn't want to, because being with someone you don't understand what they're saying, is very... taxing to me.

rapid bobcat
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I'd choose Twilight, that man is really cool

analog lark
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yeah he's cool, I like Slime tbh, but again, language barrier

digital brook
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Who won the league this year?

pearl stratus
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Florida Mayhem

minor flame
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The true winner is actually Hooreg

balmy wolf
slender lance
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I think this is good for Toronto

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Envy hasn't looked great

balmy wolf
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Finally Gods got picked up

slender lance
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And they could use a good brig so ivy can play zarya

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Language barrier is the only issue

little silo
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well sharyk should be better than Yakpung

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he just wont be able to communicate without im37 translating

slender lance
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I thought sharyk was a dps

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I was thinking if sharp

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Mb

quaint python
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Hello everyone! Do you guys have any tips for a freelance overwatch observer? I have some work 😃

trim shadow
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Tornto mix roster?

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So a english frontline

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And 37 as the translator

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First bald headed owl player lul

balmy wolf
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if anyone was curious on what pro overwatch contracts look like

slender lance
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If only all the players followed that

trim shadow
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Thats not a actual contract lmao

balmy wolf
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its literally an academy contract

pearl stratus
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Part of, not the whole thing if context clues didn't tip people in

vale pond
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"All conversation must remain constructive"

hidden vault
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I don't thibk Toronto will do well with the new signings

azure bridge
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yeah

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they looked strong at the beginning

trim shadow
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Well if its a academy roster then it makes sense

azure bridge
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yeah, but still, I wanted toronto to do well :/

tired mango
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contract's basically loose enough to out people whenever the academy feels like

azure bridge
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;/

vagrant cargo
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Sharyk is nuts tho

minor flame
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Toronto

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theyll have a tough time adapting thats for sure

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plus they still dont have a good brig

trim shadow
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They still have 2 weeks so

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???

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Oh no baby what is you doing

tardy isle
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Is there

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Some bigger story there

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Cuz it seems like a lot of teams are yeeting from contender’s

trim shadow
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Not a clue

balmy wolf
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probs gonna NY route, just field korean players in the team until their ready

hidden vault
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I think toronto wants to up this 2 players for sale

trim shadow
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U cant field a full kr roster in a na region

hidden vault
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You only can do so in a kr region

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Closest you can do is to bench all the na/local playerd for the koreans

stark salmon
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I wonder which of these two teams would win? I'm deciding to root for one of them

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LosAngelesGladiators 🦁
SeoulDynasty 🐯

gaunt acorn
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gladiators

slow walrus
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gladiators are looking strongest rn but if Seoul can figure out whether to run Marvel or Fissure and an actual lineup then they'll be better

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also there's rumors that blizzard is gonna change up owl big time to kill goats so these rankings might not hold true 🤷🏻

gaunt acorn
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what rumours

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there's not gonna be a role lock for stage 3, if that's what you're implying

hidden vault
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You kill goats you kill dive

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A new meta comes out and you kill it

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Reason?

empty pebble
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And speaking about the role lock thing I wonder why OWL vetoed the idea

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Maybe because the committee doesn't think role-lock is a good idea? Or they don't want OWL to become the game's test lab? Or they're just not ready yet?

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But I doubt the devs themselves vetoed role lock

karmic grotto
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@balmy wolf what does the 2nd mean?

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is this during a pro game / scrim, or during livestreaming

vale pond
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The devs are split on role lock, and the owl is against it for good reason

balmy wolf
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@karmic grotto during scrim

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for focus

karmic grotto
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Makes sense

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scrims at pro level are serious

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if it were pugs, that's another story

tardy bobcat
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I’m a GoD at this game Grandmaster

trim shadow
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The devs have always been split on this game

limber pine
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There were never rumors that Blizzard was going to implement a role lock

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@ Mystic

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err @ naethros

slender lance
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I think teams that are disbanding their academy roster plan to just put more funding in their main roster

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If not then it doesn't make sense

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Like Paris disbanding their academy roster doesn't make too much sense

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Considering they have a decent main roster

trim shadow
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Thats...

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Fucked up

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Nate wouldnt allow that

slender lance
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What do you mean

little silo
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The team dropped to OD

limber pine
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it likely won't matter, because they'll put all the academy teams back in contenders next year

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I supect

hidden vault
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Are they allowed to drop their team of OD?

limber pine
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why not

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there's no stipulation saying that OWL teams A) have to create a contenders/OD team or B) continue to field one once they create one.

trim shadow
hidden vault
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You are not supposed to do lines via 1 word at a time

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That's against the rules

analog lark
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you're supposed to create a monstrosity pen that allows you to do 12 lines at once.

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something only someone with a masters in engineering could accomplish.

vagrant cargo
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@slender lance Paris is a bottom 5 team

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Where is there mainroster strong

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They disbanded because they lost in trials

tardy isle
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Technically

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Even if OWL says no role lock

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The players could come to an unofficial agreement

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So it is possible though unlikely that we’d see a role lock of sorts

limber pine
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uh

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that seems silly

little silo
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"hey guys lets all not play the best comp in the game"

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Everyone who tries that would get destroyed by their head coach

limber pine
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and their orgs

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and the league

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and Blizzard

trim shadow
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its the best comp

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to them

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but its not the best

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to the viewers

pearl stratus
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"Hey, lets not win a few million dollars because of a bunch of whiny fuckwads on reddit."

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A+ Gameplan.

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Reddit should just raise enough money to provide a monetary incentive to not play goats. 3.5 million dollars should do.

little silo
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"hey lets not play what we're best at"

sullen berry
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More like, "alrught gentleman's agreement. No goats until we get desparate or we feel like it"

little silo
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Yeah and the top teams at Goats will definitely agree to that

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Goats will just get replaced by another meta that people will complain about

balmy wolf
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Remember when everyone wanted dive gone and then they released Brig and now everyone is like "fuck go back"

trim shadow
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dont you love it

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when mcree has high noon

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so you decide to nano him

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for giigles

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and he doesnt ult

pearl stratus
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People will always complain. Just sterilize people who complain.

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"If 1 million fans get vasectomies we'll nerf goats so you fucking whiny assholes don't reproduce."

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That's literally the definition of win win.

little silo
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I dont think sterilizing them will change their chance at reproduction

balmy wolf
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AIGHT BOYS

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ITS TIME TO APPLY FOR WASH JUSTICE OFFICIAL GM

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im not gonna get it but im one of the few with irl experience + ow experience managing

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so why not

karmic grotto
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why not

sullen berry
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why not

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orisa hog torbjorn

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from ninjas in pyjamas

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to clockwork vendetta

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copying didn't work

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but look at GOATs

hidden osprey
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!schedule

somber yewBOT
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hidden osprey
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2 more weeks rip

sullen berry
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just check in with Pacific showdown Friday

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Kaiser on O2 actually looking forward to face off against a bunch of aussies in ORDER

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Chengdu's academy team

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Element Mystic vs the winner between T1W (China) or Talon (Pacific)

worn falcon
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@balmy wolf if you only not ignored Wizard...

balmy wolf
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@worn falcon dude its not even that

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my sister and i worked on an analyst sheet for a contenders team to not be named

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and i got a stern talking to from stux about how its sensitive info

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and that no one except for me should see it

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and then my fiance walked up and said "ooo whats this" and stux got mad again LOL

worn falcon
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LMAO

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Fucking leggo, unluckiest one

balmy wolf
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it didnt help that i actually explained it

worn falcon
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Ooof, ofc is gonna be more mad lol

sullen berry
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if it weren't ponting out it was a rerun

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I swear

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this is still the longest OWL match to date on Assault and Hybrid

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all they wanted to do was break their losing streak at the time

balmy wolf
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@worn falcon spelled my name wrong on the sign up sheet

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unluckers

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oh well there goes that opportunity

worn falcon
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Holy fucking shit, how many fuck ups do you need leggo

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lmao

balmy wolf
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been 22 years and i made it this far into esports/med school

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at this point

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good decisions would be the worst thing to happen

balmy wolf
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I love working with actual pro coaches

upper niche
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Hey, when/why did Contenders Aus drop from being two groups of six to one group of 8? Was it a lack of teams, or did they decide the level of competition wasn't there to justify 12 teams?

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Also, how the fsck did Kanga eSports end up going 1W-27L on maps?!

sullen berry
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Kanga just flopped and then some

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I can't explain what really went down

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just wasn't working out this meta or this season

gaunt acorn
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hot dog

balmy wolf
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au scene in 2016

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that was something else

sullen berry
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Love shack

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they still have players now ofc

balmy wolf
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funky little shack

sullen berry
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Heykatie was THE sombra main for OCE

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nowadays he's a strimmer after muselk put Australia's reputation against SK into the bin

minor flame
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clockwork vendetta is like

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what high ladder meta looks like

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bunker time

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except everyone is exceptionally good

vagrant cargo
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@balmy wolf iOstux is really nice

sullen berry
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Or try the paris eternal discord

trim shadow
gaunt acorn
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@trim shadow nice link

trim shadow
minor flame
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Weird

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How Brig changed meta for t1-2

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But Baptiste is the meta changer for t3-gm

tardy isle
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In platinum, we have no meta Flex

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😂

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“Let’s group up”
“And hit them till they die”

vernal obsidian
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We're probably going to see more bunker comps in OWL with Baptiste. Calling it now.

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This is what happens when people want change.

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Dive -> Goats -> Bunker

slender lance
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Clockwork vendetta comp in stage 3

minor flame
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Nah Goats will still be dom

slender lance
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Some teams are at least gonna try it

minor flame
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Cause Goats is top with top tier comms

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Bunker can beat goats but Goats is usually more favourable with better synergy and comms

slender lance
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Goats is probably the best comp there is

minor flame
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Goats is the best comp but its just not that accessible

vernal obsidian
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All it takes is a top team to run bunker consistently well for change to occur.

minor flame
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Bunker isnt the best but it is accessible and has a good payoff

vernal obsidian
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If Zarya and brig are nerfed a bit more, Goats will go back to just being a 3-3.

minor flame
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Nerfing brig more just makes her more of a shit hero

vernal obsidian
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A support is not supposed to cancel out a whole comp.

minor flame
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And how does Brig cancel out a whole comp

vernal obsidian
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Her shield bash makes her stun enemies like mccree, she has self healing and aoe healing on damage dealing and her ult is persistent.

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That makes going dive a nightmare.

minor flame
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Alright, her dmg is absolute garbage and although she has a stun, she still does garbage followup and her stun can actually displace her further

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Her durability is the only thing going for it but even thats a stretch

vernal obsidian
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If her shield bash stun duration and ult armor were reduced, dive can stand a chance.

minor flame
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Constant poke is a good way to counter her lack of non healing

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Her ult armor and stun duration is fine

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And if you nerfed stun duration

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God she would legit be worthless

vernal obsidian
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Notice how there's no other support that has a stun.

minor flame
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And? No other dps than mccree has a stun

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Ana has a sleep

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Modern dive is now

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3 dps 1 hammond

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There are so many counters to brig when diving now

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Doom, Sombra, Widow keeps constant pressure

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McCree can OHKO

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Soldier has better dmg

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Ashe has her dynamite to counteract shield

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A good tag starter

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Brig has a stun but its a looong cd

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Plus her displacement can get her dead if shes not careful

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Brig is weak other than goats

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Easily counterable

vernal obsidian
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I have noticed that Brig is becoming weaker as new comps are emerging.

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So I'll retract that statement.

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As for Zarya, she deals a ridiculous amount of damage.

limber pine
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She's not even really weaker, she's just not good outside of a triple support comp

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but GOATs has been king for months

karmic grotto
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Hmm question

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What time does pacific showdown start

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1 PM +1 CEST time?

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Nvm

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Seems its very early Friday

vernal obsidian
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That to be of assistance. MercySMUG

trim shadow
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so twilight is better then jjonak?

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never thought the day will come

tardy isle
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Depends how you define better

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Jjonak has more final blows but Twilight has more damage

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Out of curiosity who is the dynasty and dragon players right on top of each other

copper solstice
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If it’s zen then ryu and luffy

trim shadow
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Its mostly zen players

copper solstice
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Plus also in the article in the other graphs it saids ryu and luffy

pearl stratus
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The Bunker comps that people are talking about won't work in OWL versus Shock and Vancouver. Will work mediocre against NYXL/London/Shanghai. Will work against everyone else.

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Mostly because the teams that would need to run the bunker comp don't have the talent/skill/teamwork to run the better comp.

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So they'll still be beaten by the thing they can't do.

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Work cohesively like a team.

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Shock and Vancouver don't run just goats because its all they can play. They run it because 14-15 teams in the league don't play it well enough to even be a challenge, so why change it up?

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At this point I firmly believe that Angry Titans and British Hurricane would give Shock/Vancouver more of a challenge than half of the "OWL" teams.

vagrant cargo
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True true

karmic grotto
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Why doesn't OWL does something like that

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let an OWL team play a top Contenders team

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against a*

little silo
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What would they gain from it

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They either lose and become a joke or win and it wont be a big deal

pearl stratus
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It's lose lose.

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Contenders teams win, they look like shit. Contenders teams lose everyone goes "Of course, they're just contenders."

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But the biggest one is the risk that most of the teams in the OWL look like they don't belong if they can't keep up.

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Since most have individually good players with bad teamwork, and mediocre to bad coaches.

jagged fox
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^ True

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Speaking of good players, Water is a NUT! He 1000% belongs in league

pearl stratus
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Not yet. He looks good on ladder, but ladder means less than the dog shit you step in at the park.

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He was massively inconsistent on Glad. Legion and his ult use was questionable.

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He needs that coached out of him, and he'll be fine

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And its better to get it coached out in contenders.

limber pine
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He needs kephrii sniping opposite him.

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/s

karmic grotto
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Ah kephrii

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Lots of drama

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In the end

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He wasted away

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Gone, he had his time

slender lance
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Am I the only one who thought kephrii had no shot of owl

limber pine
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No

slender lance
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I just never saw a team he would fit on

limber pine
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Literally anybody with a brain knows he wouldn’t have made it

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Especially after seeing him in contenders

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Which he was good in btw

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Just no ability to flex

slender lance
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His is literally a widow one trick

#

The only widow one trick in owl is probably pine

#

But he does play a bit of mcree

#

McCree*

upper niche
#

I wouldn't completely call him a one-trick, I've watched him play Ashe and yeah, he's pretty bloody brutal on her too.

vale pond
#

pine plays cree

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p damn well

#

he's a hitscan specialist

tardy isle
#

You’re missing the best dps

#

Bumper Hanzo

tawny sigil
#

wow big change to assault map on ptr

#

Time awarded for capturing Point A on all Assault maps has been reduced from 4 minutes to 3 minutes.
Upon losing Point A, any defenders that are dead, or that die shortly thereafter, will have a maximum respawn of 3.5 seconds.

tardy isle
#

Woah what

tawny sigil
#

thats a huge change for owl

#

Developer Comments: Assault match lengths are averaging higher than we’re happy with, particularly in Competitive where there are multiple rounds. We’re also concerned with how often Offense fully captures Point A and Point B. Reducing the round time from 8 to 7 minutes should address both these concerns, as less overall time rewards better Defense.

Additionally, sometimes Defenders fight late with good intentions at Point A and end up staggered from their team when A falls, leaving their team with uneven footing to defend a rush to B. In these situations, temporarily lowering the respawn time to get those Defenders back with their team should be a better match experience and doesn’t punish players so harshly for wanting to defend Point A.

trim shadow
#

Pine lying in wait to unleash his swag upon overwatch leauge

tardy isle
#

@tawny sigil can I have a link?

#

To the page for that

tawny sigil
#

ptr patch note

#

they also have replay now on ptr

minor flame
#

dva is slightly nerfed

#

i dont know if this nerf will impact dva that much honestly

#

but Bunker is buffed too a bit

#

Orisa has a QoL nothing major

#

Baptiste however has 2 more secs on Amp and 2 more mag

balmy wolf
#

heal mag only

minor flame
#

yeah well its not like his dmg gun mag is major

#

i dont think bap buffs are that big

#

well it depends

#

hes prob better but not by a large margin so bunker is slightly buffed

#

so this patch isnt really anything except for replays

balmy wolf
#

the vod reviews are gonna be so much better from this

#

love seeing the micro plays that happen in OWL

upper niche
#

The Assault change is weird: They're claiming teams cap both A+B, but 2CP draws and fails to cap so often on B

balmy wolf
#

probs referring to higher tier OW

upper niche
#

Yeah maybe. I'm certainly familiar with the games where you only cap in OT though.

pearl stratus
#

The D'va nerf is much bigger than you'd think.

#

It's 33% reduction to the eat range on a grav basically.

#

Missed positioning will be exploited greatly.

balmy wolf
#

Also they changed the matrix's appearance as well

#

its much more visible

rapid shale
#

bunker/pirate ship gets me heated like a steak amuse bouche

tulip ridge
#

I find the matrix more uncomfortable to see in my screen

rapid shale
#

yeah

tulip ridge
#

The matrix nerf is really strong on D.VA

balmy wolf
#

but its a good nerf

tulip ridge
#

hopefully they don't nerf D.VA even futhur after that

balmy wolf
#

looks pretty nice as well

tulip ridge
#

I think it's a bad nerf, probrably because I'm a d.va plyer and biased

balmy wolf
#

i mean matrix was always op no matter what

#

this is it's 6th nerf I think

tulip ridge
#

6th?

#

No way

balmy wolf
#

5th at the most

tulip ridge
#

What was Dm like back then?

balmy wolf
#

it used to have to no meter i think

tulip ridge
#

damm tho 5 meter reduction?

balmy wolf
#

15 to 10

tulip ridge
#

Or maybe I'm just exaggerating

balmy wolf
#

its still long as hell

tulip ridge
#

Maybe just like the 2 sec cooldown nerf I'll get used to it

balmy wolf
#

most likely

#

at least tracers and zarya dont have such a hard time dealing with it

tulip ridge
#

And I got better at managing matrix b/c i didn't spam matrix after that

balmy wolf
#

mcrees buff is pretty weird

tulip ridge
#

true true

balmy wolf
#

25% increase to fire rate

tulip ridge
#

the real issue comes with the damage increase

#

This is going to change D.VA pros and their positioning

rapid shale
#

mcree busted

#

dps is alive boys

tulip ridge
#

that's good

#

that way dps in my team can finally do some work

balmy wolf
#

too busted but will see

rapid shale
#

BUFF JUNKRAT

tulip ridge
#

uh oh

rapid shale
#

MAKE HIM DO 200 DAMAGE WITH NADE

balmy wolf
#

lol

rapid shale
#

MAKE CONCUSSION MINE LAUNCH TWICE AS FAR

#

GIVE HIM A THIRD MINE AND A SECOND TRAP

#

MAKE RIPTIRE HAVE DOUBLE HP

#

MAKE JUNKRAT HAVE DOUBLE HP

#

MAKE JUNK A TANK WITHOUT SACRIFICING DAMAGE OR MOBILITY

balmy wolf
#

ok you should probs stop

rapid shale
#

mei is an off tank, change my mind

echo quest
#

T1w naisuuuu

sullen berry
#

Haker and gang playing against O2 Blast feat. KAISER

trim shadow
#

So dva

#

15 meters to 10 meters

#

I smell dps coming

#

Scus me

#

What in gods name is that mcree buff

#

Pine is laughing right now

#

Oh boy did blizzard just kill snowball on 2cp

minor flame
#

Thats for the better

#

But I do gotta say attackers are p screwed

#

1 min off timebank for first point

#

So every full hold that was so close in OWL

#

Couldve happened

#

I dont think this patch will get in stage 3

trim shadow
#

Theres 2 weeks left of break so

#

Well 1

little silo
#

this ptr patch probably wont make it in

#

At least for stage 3

pearl stratus
#

This is more for stage 4, unless they do no input testing at all. Which they haven't been lately.

#

Ironically enough it gives a small buff to the teams that were already doing 2:1:3 comps with Sombra, because the amount of grav eats will go down enough that D'va won't be that completely mandatory entity.

trim shadow
#

Sombra can cancell anti nade i read

#

Dva on some teams has taken a back seat anyway

pearl stratus
#

She can self cancel with her relocation.

tardy isle
#

I feel like most of the gravs I’ve seen eaten in OWL were rather short range

echo quest
#

Most of the gravs eaten are soon yeeting his ult into Fury

vernal obsidian
#

I feel that gravs should be a bit more visible.

#

currently grav spheres look similar to her right clicks.

minor flame
#

Feel bad for fury

vernal obsidian
#

why?

minor flame
#

Hes less likely to be able to this god like eat predictions

vernal obsidian
#

he's gotta git gud then.

echo quest
#

So he’ll be fine

echo quest
#

Dps come back :((((((

slender lance
#

I feel like the grav voice line should come first

#

That's what I use to block shadders or eat me ults

trim shadow
#

Most gravs eaten are because babybay didnt reconfigure his ult button

analog lark
#

Who are the biggest yeeters of gravs in the OWL

#

Just yeeting a grav 30 meters

#

Straight into a D.va DM

#

Soon and Babybay are 2 names i can think off

vagrant rose
#

who wants leaks

trim shadow
#

thats huge

tawny sigil
#

too bad its behind a paywall that im not willing to pay

vagrant rose
#

it is?

#

i didnt pay lmao

tawny sigil
#

you know its gonna part of all access pass

#

else it'd make the all access pass irrelevant

echo quest
#

Is this the viewer

tawny sigil
#

im guessing its on ptr

tawny sigil
#

why do i have OWL bastion emote unlocked and "Team Kill!" "Get on point!" emotes?

gaunt acorn
#

@vagrant rose where from

#

@tawny sigil from twitch achievements

#

and/or cheer rewards

tawny sigil
#

what did i achieve?

vagrant rose
#

@gaunt acorn im a hacker

gaunt acorn
#

cool

vagrant rose
#

(whitehat)

gaunt acorn
worn cedar
#

(ok)

gaunt acorn
#

otherwise you got it from cheering

gaunt acorn
#

moving to epic games as 'lead of competitive gaming initiatives' according to espn

#

fucking yikes

hidden vault
#

I think it's a down grade for nate

#

Lmao

gaunt acorn
#

not in terms of salary

#

maybe in terms of future potential

#

but that's his business

echo quest
#

Cant blame the checks must be FAT

#

Him*

rough junco
#

That's awful

#

What a joke

minor flame
#

cant tell if its gonna be worse long term

#

but his rep is def gonna take a hit

minor flame
#

Well

#

He prob already has a bad rep

karmic grotto
#

Yeah

trim shadow
#

Fat F nate

#

Thats how u get a community to hate you

karmic grotto
#

No worries

#

Someone else better will come

#

But he grew up with owl

#

And just leaves for bigger money

echo quest
#

It happens

trim shadow
#

It does

#

Honestly

#

Im@not@suprised he got bought out

echo quest
#

Ye at the end of the day it’s a business

#

I would do the same

hidden vault
#

Hope the league could survive without nate

balmy wolf
#

watching the pacific showdown is pretty hype

#

kind of like apex

trim shadow
#

i missed itttttt

#

i forgot it was today

balmy wolf
#

its still going

#

were on the 2nd match rn

summer forum
#

its here boys

#

ALL OF EU

#

ITS HERE

gaunt acorn
#

is there really any reason to be excited?

#

it's still fanatics merch

trim shadow
#

Oh wait its live right now?

sullen berry
#

is there a reason to be particularly upset for Nate Nanzer?

#

or should I say the loss of him for the OW League

balmy wolf
#

people dont like fortnite

summer forum
#

@gaunt acorn so where do I get my teams stuff over than fanatics?

#

link me it thanks...

gaunt acorn
#

@summer forum there is no alternative right now

#

that's the issue

summer forum
#

exactly

gaunt acorn
#

well, so i'm saying

summer forum
#

so youre saying what

gaunt acorn
#

hardly a reason for excitement if the product is still awful

summer forum
#

the fact that theres only 1 source

gaunt acorn
#

at least in my opinion

summer forum
#

well you dont support your team as much as I do then

#

dont be a prick just because someone else thinks differently to you

balmy wolf
#

it all depends on person

#

end of disscusion

gaunt acorn
#

i don't think spending $100 on sub-part mechandise determines how big of a fan you are

#

i'd gladly purchase a jersey if i knew the quality was good enough to last longer than a month

summer forum
#

100 is nothing to me

gaunt acorn
#

be prepared to spend $100 every month, then

summer forum
#

I spend that on food per week, again, dont bring your idea of excitement

gaunt acorn
#

if you don't want the lettering to crack or peel off

summer forum
#

to my idea and try to say its not worth it

gaunt acorn
#

you seem unreasonably offended over something that really has nothing to do with you

#

unless you work for fanatics

summer forum
#

You called my excitement pointless?

#

of course it implicates me

gaunt acorn
#

in my opinion the merchandise is not worth purchasing in its current state -- if you disagree, by all means go ahead

#

i'm saying i see it as pointless

#

i don't see why you'd take my opinion as objective fact

#

i can't see it the way you do

summer forum
#

yeah you never stated yourself

#

but in any case

#

Good luck with your crappy job 👋

#

when you start earning real boy money come talk.

#

peace

gaunt acorn
#

you do realize its not the cost that's prohibitive

#

it's the fact that i wouldn't want to purchase a product of inferior quality

#

i think you should really settle down

hidden vault
#

Do the players get their jerseys from the same place too?

gaunt acorn
#

@hidden vault no

#

the actual jerseys the players wear are made differently

hidden vault
#

Then why don't we get them from the same source?

gaunt acorn
#

because they're much more expensive

#

soccer players don't wear the same $80 jerseys they sell in the gift shop

#

it's just business

#

it wasn't really a problem last year because intotheam sold jerseys of comparable quality

#

but this year we're stuck with the cheapo ones

#

i was hoping (or cynically expecting) fanatics would, by now, start carrying a separate line of 'authentic' jerseys that fixed these problems, albeit at a higher cost

#

but i guess not

hidden vault
#

Say it's much more expensive, but is it available to us?

gaunt acorn
#

you mean the 'real' jerseys?

hidden vault
#

Yup

gaunt acorn
#

they aren't mass-produced, so no

#

unless you want to hang around blizzard arena and try to buy one off a player

#

it sucks, but there's no alternative right now

hidden vault
#

Hmm

balmy wolf
#

Keep your eyes open for NA contenders and possible OWL in about a month or two 👀

#

apparently he saw my wash justice manager resume

upper niche
#

Meh, the issue of whether they're mass-produced or not really has no bearing on quality these days. Digital printing has been a thing for 10 years now, so it's not like the old days where you'd only bother having high-quality templates for mass-produced items. The overhead for single-unit runs is minimal in this day and age.

pearl stratus
#

I mean lets be fair. If you buy a Fanatics jersey, whether the money is a lot or nothing to you, you're a fucking moron.

#

Because you just paid for garbage

#

If you go through IntotheAM or something, you're fine.

sullen berry
#

But the jerseys

#

Literally are manurectured by intotheAM

#

They have to suffer from the shit job, limited merch and distribution done by Fanatics

pearl stratus
#

You can buy their stuff separate.

#

Like the All Star Jerseys, etc.

#

Is what I meant.

#

Those are actually legit.

sullen berry
#

Anyone have a Jersey to confirm

near dome
#

I love the all star design

balmy flower
trim shadow
hidden vault
#

Why the discrimination lol

jovial fiber
#

20 Vision

sand violet
#

@balmy wolf i am going to smoke ur team

#

that is all

balmy wolf
#

@sand violet we're not even a full roster yet LOL

sand violet
#

I will single handedly

#

1v6

#

your team

balmy wolf
#

1v1 me

#

we'll settle it right here

sand violet
#

your team can 1v1 my team

#

in OD

verbal roost
#

Who will replace Nate?

slim plover
#

who doesnt like the 3-3 comp for overwatch league

#

it is boring to watch

vagrant cargo
#

Its not boring If executed well

#

But every Team plays it

jovial fiber
#

I will replace all

#

As I am a god

summer forum
#

watching shock at 3-3 is the best thing you can do if you want to learn how to play it

#

its mostly the fact that they can lose a player but still win the team fight

#

which other teams just cant do

jovial fiber
#

Super

summer forum
#

200IQ brain

#

and I say thats the difference between titans and shock, super is actually a fucking god tank

#

bumper makes a lot of dumb decisions becuase he knows hes got god support

#

but when you face god tank vs god support with a tank that is not patient, the good tank will always win because he has god support as well haha

#

2 teams I enjoy really watching playing 3-3 and its shock and titans

hidden vault
#

And so the blame is on bumper?

balmy wolf
#

shock won because titans couldn't force mistakes out of them

#

not because bumper was feeding

#

titans style is forcing situations that they can exploit, which is why if the other team doesn't have stellar goats they lose

slow pagoda
#

they got rolled and smoked on paris tho. GWqlabsRIP

echo quest
#

Also Bumper stomped Super On Their attack for KR

#

Titans were just off

balmy wolf
#

off day?

#

nah

#

shock outplayed them in the end

echo quest
#

I’m not making an excuse. Their coordination was off and since shocks are just as good as them they lost

balmy wolf
#

coordination just died on the last fight in blizzard world

#

lose with 5 ults

#

welp, since we going into goats again, were probs gonna see another titans vs shock final

echo quest
#

I want to see Dps because we can see outplays

balmy wolf
#

Trialling as general manager of washington justice atm

#

spelled my own name wrong

#

its all about the first impressions guys

hidden vault
#

The only way to attract their attention WidowLUL

echo quest
#

Jiqiren is in the US rip ameng

marble oar
#

How well would everyone say gladiators are?

echo quest
#

Just outside the top 3

hidden vault
#

Who is the 3rd then?

#

Nyxl?

slim plover
#

3rd prob london or nyxl

echo quest
#

Nyxl

hidden vault
#

How is it london lol

marble oar
#

Let’s go gladiators!!!!!

daring prism
vagrant cargo
#

Vancouver didnt have an offday

#

Shock straight Up is the better team

scarlet pivot
#

yea i think the Shock are the better team

#

after the high pressure finals experience from stage 1 I definetly saw them beating Vancouver in a rematch anyway

slow walrus
#

stage 2 finals weren't close

#

no question

ripe shale
#

Nate Nanzer, prev owl commissioner is a huge sellout, jumping the bandwagon over to fOrTnItE yuck 🤦‍♂️

gaunt acorn
#

money talks

ripe shale
#

sad but true :(

#

not enough genuine human beings anymore in this world

hidden vault
#

Is fornite even doing better then overwatch?

supple prism
#

probably

gaunt acorn
#

@hidden vault revenue-wise? without a doubt

#

esports-wise? no

hidden vault
#

Fortnite is currently the most played game now?

supple prism
#

lol Golf It! has more viewers than Overwatch on twitch right now

hidden vault
#

Like I played fortnite it's fun while it's lasted

#

But overwatch still sticks

supple prism
#

i just cant stand BR

hidden vault
#

BR?

#

I'm speaking for myself of course

supple prism
#

battle royale

hidden vault
#

Where is pubg and apex legends now?

supple prism
#

in between

hidden vault
#

Over overwatch?

#

Or under?

tardy isle
#

Apex is still top ten on twitch last I saw

hidden vault
#

What about overwatch?

supple prism
#

it is still up there and gets a significant amount of help from OWL

gaunt acorn
#

@hidden vault apex fell off quick

#

overwatch is usually above it on twitch, even when owl is not broadcasting

#

pubg still remains popular in asia

#

most of the twitch streamers for pubg are korean

#

it does alright, in that regard

hidden vault
#

I checked overwatch is doing worse then Hearthstone and World of Warcraft

#

Blizzard wpuld need to buck up on overwatch

gaunt acorn
#

world of warcraft is very popular right now, with the rerelease of wow: classic

#

hearthstone i can't find an explanation for, other than one big streamer with 19k is carrying it atm

#

overwatch doesn't have any big personalities streaming currently

#

i mean, there's harb and kabaji

#

but combined they're only getting ~7k viewers

hidden vault
#

Who is that with reviews?

gaunt acorn
#

which reviews

hidden vault
#

Sorry typo

#

Views

gaunt acorn
#

who is carrying hearthstone, you mean?

hidden vault
#

That hearthstone streamer with 19k views

#

Yes

gaunt acorn
#

nl_Kripp

hidden vault
#

Never heard of him

#

But thanks

gaunt acorn
#

me neither, but i don't follow hearthstone

supple prism
#

classic wow is still in testing

#

but yea

gaunt acorn
#

not for streamers

#

they have closed beta access

echo quest
#

Pubg is really popular in China and Korea

#

However China doesn’t use twitch so we don’t really know how many views it pulls there

gaunt acorn
#

that's why i specified koreans on twitch

#

the chinese mainly use other platforms, as you're no doubt aware

forest mirage
#

ners brig

#

nerf brig

pearl stratus
#

Brig is nerfed, if you're still having problems with her buff your SR.

jovial fiber
#

Nice

balmy wolf
#

what mice do yall use

trim shadow
#

Mouse*

#

Corsair dark core rgb

tranquil forge
#

g502 😎

balmy wolf
#

@tranquil forge ayee G502 gang

echo quest
#

Razor deathadder

little silo
#

G Pro

swift moth
#

@pearl stratus Brig is nerfed, if you're still having problems with her buff your SR. stop it that man had a family

little silo
#

i dont think that family wants him

inland pawn
#

g903 😃 👌🏿

somber yewBOT
#
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vale pond
#

Only 1 good game that day unless atlanta pulls another stunt

balmy wolf
#

ok do you guys think i should make some changes on this fantasy team ? the botttom is the other options and on the left side is the points you get per dmg/heals/elims

pearl stratus
#

Provided things stay static -

#

Drop Colourhex for Rascal.

#

Rascal is always going to get you maximum points, his death rate is so low with a super high impact.

#

Unless your league is really dumb and does things by "assigned" roles and won't give him points for healing, etc on Brig/Bapt.

trim shadow
#

Where can i sign up for fantasy?

vale pond
#

^

trim shadow
#

I got the perfect team i swea

vale pond
#

5 dps and dogman pls

#

I wanna see some bullshit

trim shadow
#

Yes

mental marten
#

No

sullen berry
#

@balmy wolf Space hahaaa

#

Lateyoung is also their DVa player

sullen berry
#

“Wait, is that public?” he asks hastily to Twitch chat, as he realises his mistake, “Wait… I don’t think that’s public. Oh, shit.”

#

Talk about Super Bad for GZ then

vagrant cargo
#

Space isnt Bad @sullen berry

sullen berry
#

I never said anything about Space being bad

#

I would support it if only he didn’t have stronger competition stacked against him as top western D.Va mains, and that’s not saying much against a Korean dominant role with few standouts

rapid shale
#

hangzhou sparks best team

plain kayak
#

fact ^

jagged fox
#

Hunters vs. Titans rematch pls

#

I can see the fear in Bumper's eyes now

trim shadow
#

Hol up hol up WidowLUL

#

The florida players are getting physical with each other

#

Oh how the mighty have fallen

echo quest
#

@jagged fox bumper isn’t scared since ameng is now a bench boy

jagged fox
#

Ameng benched?!?! Why??

sullen berry
#

Their Main Tank Jiqiren has made it over from china

#

yangxiaolong had visa issues for a long time, but Jiqiren was finally allowed in the US about a month ago

jagged fox
#

Oh, I see

#

I've heard a bit about him

sullen berry
#

They'll put him on easy opponents like charge in their first match of stage 3

#

But from there

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You'd have to figure out what they have to do with Ameng

trim shadow
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I doubt ameng will@be benched

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Theyll probably move him to off tank for some wacky strats

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Jiqiren has no time with the team

little silo
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they will probably just swap the main tanks depending on the map

nova wadi
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Rip

echo quest
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@trim shadow doesn’t really matter because he is much better on rein on Winston

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They will likely slowly work him into the rotation

trim shadow
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Oop who@got@apply

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Whos the lucky fucker

sullen berry
trim shadow
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Im gonna assume its a trade

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Instead of someone buying him

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Houston is still on a freeze

sullen berry
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Valiant had the most trades with Mayhem

trim shadow
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So washington?

sullen berry
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Again, I don't know Atlantic teams well enough to see what's going on

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Washington and Houston however

trim shadow
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Andddd hearts broke across the world

little silo
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why

trim shadow
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Apply is really talented

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I hope hes still in owl

echo quest
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Asher retired

little silo
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Thats 2 retirements for Toronto after 2 stages

trim shadow
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keep in mind all the retirements have come from expansion teams

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Player wise

raw ermine
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Did Apply retire or is he traded, and if so to what team?

faint cedar
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when will there be more fan reward streams that reward tokens?

mint flower
minor flame
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ah

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thank you overwatch league

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for streaming a

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2018 match...

hidden vault
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Why release Asher Rofl

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They have no tracer now?

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And they are short of members

trim shadow
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He retired @hidden vault

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His will

hidden vault
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Oh

tired mango
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Now that Nate Nanzer's no longer involved, can we finally use the 👌 emoji?

gaunt acorn
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do you really believe that was his decision

tired mango
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So we can?

dreamy cave
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i didnt know there was a game today

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nvm its a rewind

trim shadow
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Nate probably got pressures from some sjw at blizzard

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The next commissioner should pull it back

sullen berry
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OWL reruns are playing at the same time as Contenders Atlantic Showdown over on the Contenders channel

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Is it starting today or tomorrow?

upper niche
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wait what, WTF is wrong with an ok emoji??

gaunt acorn
balmy wolf
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hey guys

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how is life

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anyone want to be friends

gaunt acorn
hidden vault
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Also why release apply and not TVIQ?

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I mean both?

tawny sigil
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did monte give up on his power rankin

hidden vault
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And I thought the mayhem was gonna release hagopeun?

distant helm
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good for u

ivory timber
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@upper niche It was after Christchurch shooting where the asshole, during the process, used the ok sign but everyone interpreted it as symbol of white power

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We know it wasn't like this, but we can't blame Blizzard for following PR directives

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Unfortunately people are stupid

sullen berry
echo quest
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GZC academy shutdown YIKES

upper niche
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It should be a requirement of having an OWL team that you have a dev/contenders team :/

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It seems to be optional.

sullen berry
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so did paris eternal

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all i wanted was to spec moowe 😭

vale pond
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didnt paris just get booted to oc?

echo quest
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@upper niche why? For some teams like London, NYXL, Shock it’s a waste of resources

vale pond
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waste of resources or no its necessary for the longevity if the league

echo quest
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At the end of the day it’s the team’s choice so

vale pond
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fair

sullen berry
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Nice ping

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GZ Academy was given a pass into season 2

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But why take it if they were going in even less prepared than Florida mayhem whose org really is an open division team

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It's budgeting and hyping up Guangzhou Charge fanbase which they haven't brought much attention to with their size and structure

sand violet
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If you have all academy teams in T2 it kinda fucks up the path to pro

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Like contenders trials wouldn't exist cause it would be pointless because if you have all academy teams you're keeping them all in contenders

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So instead of having a clear route from top OD -> Trials -> unsigned T2 and then getting recognized for academy there

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You would have to get recognized for a academy in OD

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Which is a massively disgusting gigantic leap in skill which VERY VERY VERY rarely if ever happens

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You could try to have more academy teams without having all academy teams especially in NA where there's 2 regions so there's so many slots but if it gets to that point where every team is academy then t2 either has to be reworked or it's fucked

balmy wolf
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It used to be that way where academy teams were given a pass into contenders

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That was in of itself... a shitshow to say the least

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Paris' academy team didnt even make trials

sand violet
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It will happen again Leggo

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At the start of the 2020 season

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The first season of every year academy teams are automatically invited back

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@balmy wolf

balmy wolf
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@sand violet wait really????

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did they not learn their lesson the first time

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i mean i guess once a year is fine

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and if they drop out that's on them

sand violet
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Nope it's gonna be every year unless they decide to change it

balmy wolf
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imagine paris eternal in contenders

sand violet
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Yep they're gonna get auto invited back in 2020 which is why they can take a break now

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Cause they don't have to worry about getting in contenders

balmy wolf
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take a break as in get better people lmao

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I'm assuming there were more variables at play

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but its fun to meme

sand violet
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Nah take a break as in save money this season and not have any players then in the off season recruit good players cause you're a paid academy team

balmy wolf
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That's fair

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I hope their GM doesnt need to be fluent in frnech

pearl stratus
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Back on the GZC thing.

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I'm not surprised their academy team was shut down.

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I think people forget this is a -very very- new organization thats still learning a lot of stuff. It's not an established group at all.

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So it makes sense (to me) that if it looks like you're stretching too thin or running the academy wrong out of inexperience you'd pull out and focus on other things.

trim shadow
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im suprised any expansion teams have academy teams

digital heath
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es

ripe shale
agile flint
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how do you know if your country qualified for overwatch world cup 2019

echo quest
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@pearl stratus what do you think will happen to their two way players?

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Nero just turned 18 so

pearl stratus
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As of right now they haven't said anything, so they may just hold them since the numbers are the same.

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From an accounting perspective they've already accounted for their pay.

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But they've had them around a while now too, so they could also release them if they don't fit.

little silo
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Does Guangzhou even have 2 ways?

echo quest
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Ye

tawny sigil
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so i'm guessing since the ptr update didnt go live this week, its not gonna be in stage 3

pearl stratus
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Technically it could go through next week and still be before the 6/6 deadline.

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Teams would have been told prior to the PTR anyway.

trim shadow
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More then likely

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It depends on how long anniversary is

balmy wolf
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What is everyones your favourite OWL teams?

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I can't english

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What is everyones favourite OWL team?

vale pond
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Atlanta/Shanghai

hidden vault
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Red and White/Red and Black