and he was wrong
#esports-discussion
vale pond
north tendon
he has the data though?
vale pond
someone did a calc it turns to 3 for supps 3 for tanks 20 for dps
tawny sigil
its a longer queue for DPS.. boo fucking hoo... the dps that have been ruining the game since the start, we're gonna defend them from 2-2-2
vale pond
I'm a fucking support main and I say your wrong
tawny sigil
poor dps
vale pond
I'm not a silver dps
vale pond
I wait 2
vale pond
and 2-2-2 helps that?
idk what universe you live in but 4dps comps never happen
3 dps 2 support solo tank is the most I have seen
tawny sigil
2-2-2 makes it even better for dps one trick, cause they can just play dps non stop and not have to worry about getting a team full of dps cause great minds lose alike
vale pond
and worse for everyone else since there are no other options or anything
you still havent explained the swapping roles thing
tawny sigil
you dont
vale pond
or playing something that isnt 2-2-2
tawny sigil
the end
north tendon
lio is right though
vale pond
he isnt though
vale pond
do a 1-1-1 minimum
tawny sigil
why do you want to play chess with 3 knights at the start so badly
vale pond
look I dont mind a soft queue where you say preferred role
but any hard lock in game is a terrible idea
it ruins any swapping or flexibilit
y
and basically sets you up to lose if you are underperforming on one role and cant switch to something else
north tendon
why couldnt you just play another hero in your role?
tawny sigil
well this is where you are wrong and this is where i pull my, you've never dealt with game developement and how to make a game fun and i have.
north tendon
doesnt have to be another role
vale pond
because you are feeding on tank in general
or what if your team needs more heals
or something to counter the other team's comp
tawny sigil
rules have to be applied and people dont like the current rules
vale pond
you dont like the current rules*
FTFY
and the you never had to do this and I have is a bullshit argument
tawny sigil
dude i see a video on youtube being posted like weekly
north tendon
your team is a lost cause if they are doing poorly with 2-2-2 honestly, any artificial compensation rarely improves this
tawny sigil
"the current state of overwatch"
vale pond
what
tawny sigil
and its always some negative video about the game being dead
vale pond
that makes no sense
I feed on tank I want to switch to support
let me have that option
its not that fukcing hard
north tendon
and now you have one less tank, people arent likely to pick it up from you
tawny sigil
feed on tank , probably mean you dont belong at that rank or you'Re just at your limit
north tendon
and now you get more shit to heal
tawny sigil
that's ranking my friend
vale pond
what
tawny sigil
are you stupid?
vale pond
literally the most sped thing I have heard
vale pond
I am doing bad on one role let me let down my team instead of switching to something that benefits them
north tendon
easy as that
vale pond
jesus
tawny sigil
why the hell, should the game bend its rules because YOU dont feel well
tawny sigil
"oh im sick today, i guess ill play sombra"
north tendon
also do you mean to tell me switching roles will guarantee you do better?
vale pond
yes
north tendon
you might play even worse
vale pond
no you do better
north tendon
not always LOL
tawny sigil
of course it will garantee you do better YOU'RE SMURFING
vale pond
but often
north tendon
switching isnt a magic pill
tawny sigil
what he is saying is... he wants to fucking smurf mid game cause he's losing
vale pond
I'm feeding and our other tank is a monkey onetrick
tawny sigil
simple as that, case closed moving on
tawny sigil
that's the magic of 1 tricks ok,, look at this
north tendon
2-2-2 just solves those problems from the start
north tendon
since you tend to have unbalanced chaos
tawny sigil
they wont climb, if you're at their level, you are bad just improve
vale pond
that makes no sense
north tendon
you can also be stuck with someone feeding on a role you want
vale pond
so lets let down an entire team and waste 30 minutes of their time
tawny sigil
but you cant climb out of where he is?
north tendon
2-2-2 avoids that
vale pond
no it doesnt
if your lucio is feeding and he wants to play rein
and you play lucio well
swap
or if you have 2 flex supp mains'
tawny sigil
yeah that's why games are imbalanced
vale pond
and you need a main support
tawny sigil
cause you can swap to roles you're good at when you are trying to play roles you'Re bad at
north tendon
"I did terrible last game, maybe I should queue for this other role instead"
vale pond
"I am suddenly doing terrible this game, maybe I should swap to save the game"
tawny sigil
either, why are you not playing lucio from the start?, or why do you want to switch now mid game realizing that your lesser heroes are not working
to me it just sounds like you want to smurf
north tendon
you only suddenly do terrible most of the time if you werent good on the hero to begin with
or its your team
north tendon
but they arent that COMMON
tawny sigil
so if your lucio is doing very poorly at that elo, why are you being matched with him?
vale pond
because its one game he is doing bad
tawny sigil
are you missing the power of 2-2-2 entirely by applying current logics
north tendon
by the way, if you are doing bad mid match, what makes you think you cant swing back?
it can happen
dont give up
tawny sigil
you prooved for 20 minutes straight that you are missing the point
vale pond
and swapping would be the better choice
tawny sigil
sorry, not sorry
vale pond
you proved for 20 minutes straight that you can make ad hominem arguments
north tendon
no swapping isnt always the better choice, good mentality is important too
tawny sigil
if you are equal on 2 different roles, that's good for you
but that's not the case for most people
vale pond
then let me play them and switch mid game
I get that you dont want 5 dps
then have a 1-1-1 minimum with a 3 max cap
have a soft 2-2-2 queue
just dont hard lock stuff
tawny sigil
no cause im trying to fucking improve on them and i want a proper elo for that role
vale pond
theres no compromise with you people
north tendon
also it makes zero sense how switching within a role is somehow not as good as another role
tawny sigil
i dont want to be carried
north tendon
heroes play differently
vale pond
then dont be
vale pond
or you swap
vale pond
then you are toxic
tawny sigil
you go down with me, that's literally what i do in comp
north tendon
remember what surefour said? this carry mentality is what makes people lose games
you tend to overperform
and just suck
tawny sigil
no, im not the game forced that behavior on me by not having 2-2-2
vale pond
what
tawny sigil
no i blame not having 2-2-2, for draging others into my loss
north tendon
^
tawny sigil
i want to play dps lately
tawny sigil
im definitly bad at dps
north tendon
how is it fun to get 4 dps main and like 1 hog 1 support?
tawny sigil
i was high plat low diamond
vale pond
then get another account and practice
tawny sigil
i knew fully well we were gonna lose but , NO FUCKING 2-2-2
vale pond
no it wouldnt
north tendon
you know those alt account that insta lock dps no matter what the comp is?
what are you gonna do?
tawny sigil
Im not gonna buy 3 accounts just to get proper elo
vale pond
blizz should let you make alts for free
north tendon
and no they wont switch
vale pond
which I hope happens
north tendon
LOL you just made it WORSE
vale pond
and I hope they do a soft 2-2-2
north tendon
dude come on
vale pond
and force a minimum 1-1-1
but a hardlock 2-2-2 is not the way
it causes so many other problems
north tendon
more free accs= people dont give a shit
tawny sigil
soft 2-2-2 would make no different to what it is now
north tendon
and can dodge
vale pond
which outweigh the problems they try to solve
it would be tied to a client @north tendon
like 3 separate "comp accounts" for each account
where you could have separate srs
but arent forced into it
the issue with ow rn is that there is no midground
its either one way or another
tawny sigil
but yeah current system is terrible and forces throwing to improve
QP is 100% useless to improve
north tendon
the game has proven you cant trust the playerbase to cooperate with you
its just reality
vale pond
then set up a midground solution first before going all the fucking way
tawny sigil
2-2-2 would force some cooperation
north tendon
its very rng
vale pond
2-2-2 is also rng
tawny sigil
there is no mid way
tawny sigil
its lock or dont
vale pond
I dont think so
north tendon
WHAT
vale pond
its the same chance that you have a fucked up comp
just instead of 4 1 1 its 2 off tanks 2 off healers and a sym and a torb on control
north tendon
so you think a guaranteed 2 support and 2 tank can somehow be worse than 3-4 dps comps?
tawny sigil
which is like every match, and if it doesnt happen then people are flexing and playing roles they are either bad or better then their current elo
north tendon
ok yeah, then im sorry lol
vale pond
its not like eveyr match
tawny sigil
current system is awfully flawed and makes zero sense that it stood this long in the game
vale pond
idk what silver games you see but in high plat/low diamond its absolutely not
tawny sigil
they should consider themselves lucky that the game did not die on arrival with a competitive system this bad
vale pond
the current is bad and the new is even worse
north tendon
by the way, the people that tend to flex in those roles might not even be good at them to begin with
aka forced into em
tawny sigil
when other games already had all of this figured out
vale pond
sarcasm wont help your case
north tendon
lio its a miracle
I already gave you a point, people will tend to flex on heroes they are shit with for the sake of the comp, or just play more unnecessary heroes where the game is decided before it begins
doesnt sound like better to me
tawny sigil
people were spelling doom and gloom for the game if they implemented locked for LoL, and now everyone is saying it was the best thing to ever happen to the game
vale pond
LoL has a far larger hero pool than overwatch
tawny sigil
irrelevant to the conversation
vale pond
not rlly
tawny sigil
probably even better for overwatch even
north tendon
anyway we will see, remember me when you end up loving 2-2-2 but dont thank me for it
vale pond
dps outnumbers tank and support combined
I wont love it
I will hate it
as will many people
but I wont have to
since it will never happen
north tendon
most people will definitely love it and welcome it
vale pond
no they wont
tawny sigil
all the 2-2-2 nay saying will be silent as fuck when it happens and we'll be clapping hands and pointing fingers laughing
vale pond
2-2-2 yay saying is a loud majority
north tendon
remember one hero lock?
north tendon
people made a creativity argument there too
north tendon
not stage 3
vale pond
and since blizz only cares about pros it wont happen
north tendon
could still happen
vale pond
wont
tawny sigil
OWL said they wont do it in stage 3
vale pond
thats basically the same as saying it wont happen
tawny sigil
they didnt say it wont happen at all, forcing it on OWL now would be plain stupid
wait till next season at least
tawny sigil
from what i heard the pro players want it
vale pond
I've heard different
north tendon
they also once said deathmatch doesnt fit with their philosophy
vale pond
they interviewed people
north tendon
things can change
tawny sigil
they all want goats to die
vale pond
goats is dying
tawny sigil
barely
north tendon
also jeff is a supporter of 2-2-2
vale pond
very much so
north tendon
but the devs are split
vale pond
jeff is a plat
tawny sigil
if you call that dying i dont know what alive is
north tendon
most of the devs are low ranks too though
tawny sigil
devs were split on hammonds aswell so who knows
north tendon
ye
vale pond
devs wont do it if they are that split on it
they should at least offer one with one without
tawny sigil
devs were split on hammond, they still added him in
vale pond
so people can go enjoy normal while you people can suffer with 20 minute queues
north tendon
only dps will suffer
tawny sigil
might not even be the case either
since now it has to calculate ELO and make a good average match
if 2-2-2 comes around that's not so much a thing anymore
north tendon
yeah
also I honestly think dps will have more fun learning other roles if they find a viable comp
north tendon
seeing throwers discourages them
vale pond
dps are often the throwers
north tendon
LOL
I know I know, we are just trying to be friendly
most people tend to give up so fast honestly
like why switch so early? give it time and work with your team
they want to see a stomp for their "flex sacrifice"
vale pond
or it is better for the team to have thar third support
north tendon
if its not done, they will just throw pick
trim shadow
Eh
Ive stuck to ana zen
Despite my zen cant hit a fucking wall either
Weird ass projectiles
north tendon
you know whats better than a third support? working better with your team
trim shadow
lower ur sensitivity to 1
north tendon
coordinating more
vale pond
or swtiching when you are feeding
trim shadow
I just brig
north tendon
if your team works better together, you will also inevitably feed less
it all works together
vale pond
but if it is
sometimes your team is shit too
but then they are the ones who need the option to switch
north tendon
its okay to blame your shortcomings but dont overdo it or you end up just throwing
vale pond
or you blame others and they could switch
trim shadow
12k with zen and ana
Lost
Support mains have a hard life
Unless ur not jjonak or shu
vale pond
^^ this lol
north tendon
jjonak gets some shitty ladder games too
one junk thought he was trash
for dying on ana
"stop dying"
vale pond
oof
north tendon
i mean with rein there are a lot of factors, like if you lack a zarya for example
it makes a big difference
vale pond
rein is great when you get to press w and m1
so basically you have a not shit healer duo and u good
vale pond
ikr
ana zen lucio with 2 dps I love because theres a ton of damage and healing
and I can play rlly aggressive
north tendon
i rather we get a main support for the big heals but i guess its workable
just gotta be quick though
i havent seen the pros use that in ages
tawny sigil
also something i just thought of, queue would most likely become shorter on 2-2-2 because... let me explain
suddently you need to start match 4 people instead of 12
tawny sigil
doesnt really matter if the elo for healers and dps dont match, as long as the elo matches for healer V healer
and that's even better for learning
north tendon
you know what I personally love too, it kinda kills that cheese stalling on 2cp to a degree
tawny sigil
cause you are put in charge of supporting or tanking for higher level dps or heal or tank.
north tendon
a hammond stall would have to be the tank player, not dps for example
more fair imo
or mei cant be a tank
must be a dps switch
tawny sigil
so yeah if my theory is right, this kills the long queue argument people have been throwing around
tawny sigil
you did read what i said, and if you did you probably dont understand it
vale pond
I'm not gonna do this for hours
vale pond
I'm not doing this
tawny sigil
you didnt read
vale pond
its gonna be a full circle of bullshit again
tawny sigil
get out of here
vale pond
boi
tawny sigil
if you think matching 12 people is faster than matching 4 people
you better have some massive maths to prove your argument
tawny sigil
you would have 4 diamond dps 4 bronze healer, it would not matter for the fairness
tawny sigil
the game is already doing that when there isn't enough players
vale pond
that map takes 12 people
whether it is forced 2-2-2 or not it is still 12 people to a game
anyways
tawny sigil
you need to find 12 people that match
instead of 4-4-4 that match themselves but not all 3
trim shadow
I almost bashed stunned a rein off the map on kingsrow
I just leroy jenkins into his shield and got behind him
vale pond
oof
supple prism
the original problem of the q times was the sheer amount of dps players not the skill difference between healer and dps roles
vale pond
all ults either need to be nerfed or charge needs to translate
supple prism
why
topaz anchor
Question: What is the best pro Overwatch match of all time?
I'm debating between both OWL Stage 1 Finals, or OWWC2017 USA vs Korea
tardy isle
Do you mean OWL S1 Stage 1 final pr S2 Stage 1 final
vale pond
@supple prism because it deters switching or counterpicking
and goats meta has shown that the game is too dependent on ults regardless
@topaz anchor my top are shanghai vs boston S2-1, atlanta vs nyxl S2-2, and 2019 talent takedown
tardy isle
Aren’t all games like this reliant on ultimates
balmy wolf
what are some other games like this besides League or Apex
tardy isle
Paladins
But those were the three I was thinking of and ults can be big game changers in all of them
One Inara on Paladins and suddenly you can get easy picks with a hard to stop mass stun
One Lifeline package and all the sudden your team has cover while standing in a clearing and a new set of armor
Etc
balmy wolf
lmao did you seriously try to say one care package, cmon
cover is nothing in apex where you have one life vs 19 other teams
trim shadow
I mean for paladins
Most ults are thoraway
Espect tank ults
Enlighment you have to get at least 1 kill
King bomb at least a stun
dread serpent at least 1 fear
balmy wolf
supers/ ultimates vs. kill streaks, who wins?
upper niche
Morning all. Who's ready for Atlantic to get slapped down? 😛
echo quest
@vale pond blizzards shouldn’t let alts be free
More smurfs and trolls and less revenue
Look at console smurfs are rampant
upper niche
"Bugger, got placed in bronze. Guess I'll start over to get a new random number generator"
"I'm sick of losing in plat. New account time to make myself feel good about smashing bronzies".
nova wadi
Im on my 4th acc just cause
vale pond
oof
nova wadi
None are smurfs though
upper niche
- Tie accounts to email+SMS verification, and require MFA to play ranked.
nova wadi
Not that hard to do
upper niche
It's not fool-proof, and yeah yeah, I know "whaaaa, but people will just get a disposable SIM" - yeah, but how many people will actually go to the ffort of keeping that nu mber active just to have a smurf? It will stop 95% of it.
nova wadi
Well astros 5 accounts B)
upper niche
- Use data from the blizzard launcher and CPUID data to detect duplicates.
nova wadi
Calvins 5 accs B)
echo quest
@upper niche Imma plat let me create a new account to see where I rank. I got diamond Ik the system was broken let me post on reddit. Wait why am I going back to plat?
nova wadi
I mean the game knows u got more accs hence ur alts usually get longer q times
I dont see why they matter though
supple prism
my alt doesnt
echo quest
I don’t give a shit about Smurfs and alts
upper niche
Yeah... Look, yes, they're a problem - but the ranking system is far more of a problem. I've spent a lot of time in every rank from silver to master, and I can tell you a lot of the same things exist at all ranks. You'll get silvers you swear should be in master and master making bronze mistakes (admittedly, I've never played bronze... but I've sene shit worst than silver in masters)
upper niche
The sheer difference in skill and ability between games just days apart is so utterly ridiculous the ranking is more of less just a random number. I can get good games at say 3600 on Sunday night, come Tursday night you swear your teammates are 1800.
nova wadi
Unlucky matchmaking yeah
upper niche
yeah, but after a certain point it's no longer "unlucky". I've been playing the game what, 3 years now, it's the same shit over and over and over.
mossy bone
!schedule
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
jagged crater
Did I miss anything today
quasi stump
hey doods 
quasi stump
HAHA HOLY SHIT
vagrant niche
YOOO LETS GO
upper niche
lol wait what, did I just heave Bren vs Gesture?
trim shadow
vale pond
I know he wont but I want to see him get a kill
vale pond
can someone explain the whole gesture dps thing tho
isnt he a main tank?
like look at super in terms of ability to play dps
0
nada
dapper lantern
what
vale pond
super's dps is bad lul
dapper lantern
were you not watching last night
vale pond
the super part is a meme but someone explain why gesture's dps is actually owl level
wait space too>
supple prism
gesture went widow at the start of kings row i believe and killed the other widow in oneshot
then switched back to main tank
dapper lantern
why does Danny purposefully not translate properly lmao
supple prism
he has 100% accuracy on widow
mossy bone
NEVER PRACTICE NO PLAN
upper niche
Danm, did I miss it?
dapper lantern
guxue ♥️
supple prism
miss what
upper niche
Bren vs Gesture.
dapper lantern
it hasn’t even started, that’s at halftime
upper niche
I thougth they were doing it before this match, I had someone come to me at my desk.
ah okay, gtk.
supple prism
thats half time
dapper lantern
Mano 😍
vale pond
lots of reserves lol
upper niche
holy shit how many players do they want on a team lol
dim raptor
this music is hot
vale pond
big boss
quasi stump
maybe doing full team subs lol
dapper lantern
it’s 36 altogether
upper niche
I'm expecting Michael Flatley to come out next.
balmy wolf
The crowd is actually so fucking dead
vale pond
@upper niche its minimum 1 from each team gets a player in all stars
dapper lantern
ark ♥️
pearl stratus
Yeah, lots of welfare slots
mossy bone
og support duo back
inland pawn
Carpe and Pine. That's deadly 
dapper lantern
carpe, cheer up please
upper niche
Minimum 1 from each team? So just have 10+a couple.
vale pond
triple sniper?
vale pond
bumper is a chad
vale pond
lul
pearl stratus
It's not like you're going to get a fan vote on like... Philly or Atlanta.
dapper lantern
bruh
south brook
How does everyone feel abt goldenboy
vale pond
THE CHAD HAS ARRIVED
inland pawn
Ameng
vale pond
I miss wack walkouts
mossy bone
goldenboy is a legendary commentator
vale pond
they should do them again
pearl stratus
It was the only thing Florida could ever do
forest scarab
Don't bully Yveltal's haircut
vale pond
bring old mayhem back
dim raptor
why is super in the reserves
mossy bone
I GOT HELLA SNACKS READY
dim raptor
oh
inland pawn
i just wanna see people pop off
vale pond
I wanna see super bumper ameng same team
the chad trio
triple maintank goats
nothing dies
pearl stratus
I just want Guxue + Ameng. And I honestly want to watch Guxue slap people into mine fields.
Because he's got the mechanical skill to do it
vale pond
lul
dapper lantern
I have too many favorites
quasi stump
pine on mccree? 
vale pond
whos gonna get the Internethulk award
pearl stratus
Atlantic trying to hard already.
quasi stump
oh my god this is pog
pearl stratus
You can tell the failure team that can't get to stage playoffs.
pearl stratus
Poko was a Zarya before a D'va.
He was relatively top in the world at it actually.
dapper lantern
Atlantic blue is so pretty
vale pond
ameng and jinmu swapped spots
quasi stump
I want these skins in game 
vale pond
pine mcrightclick lol
worn falcon
Thats why they dont use pine
inland pawn
Ameng Blade
dapper lantern
ameng smh
vale pond
solo ult lul
dapper lantern
pine not really in the camera today
worn falcon
There is like 0 synergy on Atlantic
inland pawn
tryharding in an allstar game 😩
worn falcon
unlike Pacific
dapper lantern
guxue winston 
guxue winston
dim raptor
is goats not allowed or sum?
vale pond
^
supple prism
kinda hard to run goats when they dont all speak the same language
vale pond
also no one cares
dim raptor
im pretty sure almost everyone on the teams speak korean
pearl stratus
Yeah\
minor flame
for some reason
pearl stratus
This channel just gets so much smooth brain XD
supple prism
they have chinese and western players
pearl stratus
Yveltal killed Fusions
minor flame
the feeding pharah is now the sombra player
pearl stratus
With Mercy.
vale pond
pine should get traded so he can get playtime
pearl stratus
He's useless.
minor flame
Yveltal really out here with his uber moves
pearl stratus
I love Pine
But he's useless.
Garbage hero pool, with minimal flashy plays.
People overrate him from one super great Ilios for his McCree.
worn falcon
Yeah, he is pretty limited
pearl stratus
He'd only be useful if you went to a strict Widow meta.
pearl stratus
But a player like Diem is infinitely more valuable.
Because he'll Widow and 4352234534 other heroes.
dapper lantern
slept
quasi stump
CARPE
vale pond
he'd be good as a hitscan player on another team
worn falcon
The fuck with the nanos lol
mossy bone
EZCLAP
vale pond
the issue is that nyxl has better players
dapper lantern
food time
pearl stratus
They're keeping him as a specialist, and he gets to sit on the bench with a six figure salary.
I'm sure Pines just fine.
fast basin
did anyone screenshot that code
upper niche
if its the same one as yesterday I did
sec, I'll grab it for you. You mean the UpperDeck one?
fast basin
ye
upper niche
yeh gimme a sec
fast basin
thx
upper niche
its in dropbox, i'll stick it on imgur
vale pond
thats fair pine and sbb have good salaries
fast basin
just send the file 😃
fast basin
...
upper niche
cant upload files here
vale pond
wait does sbb live with the team?
fast basin
DM?
upper niche
fast basin
thx
inland pawn
4Head
opal spruce
does jjonak have lenses in his glasses?
dreamy cave
I'm here
inland pawn
WutFace
dreamy cave
Anamo okay. I'm liking it
worn falcon
🤔
mint turtle
@upper niche what's even the point if that
dreamy cave
Slime is strong
mint turtle
The cards
vale pond
goats lineup
south brook
This team is ~stacked~
upper niche
I dunno, some people will collect them, I guess.
vale pond
its the ultimate goats combo
dreamy cave
I kinda don't like the cards they used as a example. I wish they had more variety for a example
quasi stump
oh
pearl stratus
Jebaited smooth brains
worn falcon
sigh Danteh
quasi stump
never mind 
quasi stump
super jebaited
worn falcon
OOF
dreamy cave
Kicked
worn falcon
That kick
dreamy cave
NENNE
worn falcon
Best Tracer NA 
dreamy cave
Dance
worn falcon
Clapped
dreamy cave
Its actual dive vs dive
worn falcon
not OG dive, but yes
balmy wolf
Sinatraa just yeeted that bomb onto Anamo
dapper lantern
anamo 😭
balmy wolf
Sombra is a balanced hero btw guys nope no problems 😃
vale pond
gesture lol
dapper lantern
gesture literally goomba stomping people
dreamy cave
Pushed space into the nether realm
night tusk
7
upper niche
I want this track! It isn't on the OWL soundtrack.
stuck agate
Oh my God the skins look so nice
quasi stump
bunker is a go
night tusk
goats for another year than bunker be meta
south brook
Unfortunate
dapper lantern
that pulse bomb is some unlucky shit that would happen to me
night tusk
are there rules (force to play 2-2-2)? or they just kinda want to play their main roles
dreamy cave
They want to play there main roles
quasi stump
they're playing whatever tf they want fam
night tusk
I expected gesture or widow and stuff
dapper lantern
why
worn falcon
they have nenne
dapper lantern
This is supposed to be for fun
worn falcon
for that
dreamy cave
After playing goats for so long they wanna play their roles
worn falcon
This is QP with competitive ruleset for them
dapper lantern
^
quasi stump
south brook
Haha
dapper lantern
lmao nice cut
night tusk
AGANE 
dreamy cave
Again
dreamy cave
night tusk
AGAIn
vale pond
BIG BRAIN PLAYS
dreamy cave
Sat on by the ape
dapper lantern
the fact that
quasi stump
awww sinatraa tried so hard to get his revenge and couldn't make it happen
dreamy cave
Oof
night tusk
I want to see their faces more often
dreamy cave
Damn
dapper lantern
Oh
worn falcon
LOL
dreamy cave
FURY BOMB
dim raptor
thats bullllllllshit
dreamy cave
Lol
south brook
Aww
worn falcon
dva dance
dreamy cave
They couldn't emp the whinstin nano ult
night tusk
what if Super and Bumper (just a example) have hard beef with each other and are big rivals. they are forced to play together in all stars? seems that players cant decide if they play or not
gaunt acorn
here comes bren
forest wharf
most hype part of this all stars match right here
dapper lantern
that girl has a very strong face
worn hornet
where do these people order team-skin bodysuits?
dapper lantern
oops
dreamy cave
Pokemon sun and moon 3 has been nice this year..
vale pond
has the gesture thing started?
dapper lantern
no
vale pond
yeet
dreamy cave
What gesture thing??
dapper lantern
widow 1v1
dreamy cave
Ooooo
quasi stump
should be starting momentarily, they did say at halftime
dapper lantern
lmao the fucking pulse, so unlucky
forest scarab
They're actually doing Bren vs a Pro? Perfect
night tusk
GM Main tank vs Diamond... actually I do see him play alot of main tank aswell.. idk if Bren is a dps player or not
gaunt acorn
you've never heard of the famed brenji?
night tusk
idk about his account
gaunt acorn
bren is about to destroy gesture's career
night tusk
but still, comp game sense does not share the same skills for a widow 1v1. Bren can actually win this. there are plats who can destroy masters in widow headshot arcade but cant play normal comp
upper niche
I mean Bren only needs to lose 7-2 for this to be considered a win for him ;p
dreamy cave
I don't think they should role lock for OWL even if they have goats. I feel like that stops ppl from pulling out different comps like a wrecking ball 3 DPs comp or some other flex
jolly steeple
lmao goldenboy
night tusk
dapper lantern
that weak ass dab
upper niche
"Doesn't get any more average"?? Oh come on, the guy plays mid to high Diamond, that's like top 8-10% of the playerbase.
dreamy cave
What if teams promise each other to not run goats for a match?
quasi stump
it's basic trash talk
dim raptor
LMAO GESTURE
quasi stump
I like how we're trying to dissect this when it's purely for fun
night tusk
because no one plays overwatch anymore so they are plat ofcourse
quasi stump
wtf is with the audio
inland pawn
😂
dapper lantern
who is in charge of audio
jolly steeple
thats some nice feedback
dapper lantern
please fucking fire them
upper niche
ECHOEchoechoecho
quasi stump
there we go
south brook
Oh production
dapper lantern
they did the same thing last night
jolly steeple
yeah lets point the speakers towards the mic
quasi stump
lmfao
upper niche
lol the pacific guy in the crowd "meh whatever, whoever wins"
forest wharf
jolly steeple
brecking ball
south brook
What
quasi stump
creamer cups in his pocket wtf
night tusk
a player who is actually from the UK
dapper lantern
he has actual pants on
worn falcon
fucking savage
forest scarab
Macho Man Brendy Savage right there
south brook
Oh oh no
formal spruce
what is he throwing from his pocket?
jolly steeple
the cream
dim raptor
cum ball
jolly steeple
of
dapper lantern
cream
jolly steeple
the crop
dreamy cave
What did he throw at him
quasi stump
creamer cups @formal spruce lol
forest wharf
coffee creamer 
south brook
Gesture has no idea what just happened
night tusk
jolly steeple
I don't think gesture cares
upper niche
lol. Gesture will give him the first one.
jolly steeple
at all
south brook
True lol
jolly steeple
gesture's just gonna go for 360's
night tusk
I remember when he lost, and he came to the casters, Soe was like "you broke my hearth" and gesture was like. "what did I wrong 😮 "
forest wharf
imagine if bren 7-0s gesture 
upper niche
rofl those stats
night tusk
"sorry, I do better next time 😃 "
worn hornet
Fusions is on Team Bren
upper niche
I wish I'd screenshot that
dapper lantern
yes the background cam is back
jolly steeple
im no longer an uprising fan
night tusk
Mr X ofcourse on gesture side
jolly steeple
if fusions is on team bren
spring heath
just got here
dim raptor
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
dapper lantern
he has so many people lmao
night tusk
OOOOFF
forest wharf
dapper lantern
jesus
jolly steeple
its over
quasi stump
jolly steeple
its over already
inland pawn
ROLLED
dreamy cave
CAUGHT
worn falcon
LOOOOOL
mint slate
easy
south brook
YOOOO
spring heath
uhHHH
dapper lantern
CLAPPED
trim shadow
Alright
south brook
You’re trash 😦
mint slate
brens sens too high
trim shadow
Gesture gets to play widow
night tusk
100% Crit Acc
jolly steeple
rolled
dapper lantern
OH
jolly steeple
oh my god
quasi stump
I'M DYING
worn falcon
ez clap
dapper lantern
well this is going to be quick
vale pond
lol
jolly steeple
his heads to big after yesterday
gestures not even trying
he can shoot within ten feet of bren's body and hit his head
dapper lantern
boomed
dreamy cave
Its gonna v 7-1
vale pond
^
mint slate
2 shots 2 kills
worn hornet
Do they have the technology on the LAN client to rig this?
vale pond
OH SHIT
night tusk
vale pond
OH SHIT
forest scarab
LET'S GO
quasi stump
WHAT
jolly steeple
damn
south brook
Oooooh
dapper lantern
OH
dreamy cave
Oooo
inland pawn
POPPIN OFF ALREADY LUL
night tusk
quasi stump
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
mint slate
real heck
worn hornet
Like just make Bren's head hitbox the size of Winston?
dapper lantern
LMAO PUCKETT
upper niche
hahah
spring heath
lmao oh bren
worn falcon
this is fucking fun LOL
mint slate
his only kills
dreamy cave
That's his 1
dapper lantern
Puckett, the hype man
upper niche
This is way better than the actual Widow 1v1 matches
forest wharf
mint slate
lmaoo
dreamy cave
CAUGHT ON THE RELOAD
hidden osprey
night tusk
this is so funny
south brook
That’s hilarious
dapper lantern
damn
worn falcon
Clapped
worn hornet
Dogman whispers, "Stop feeding." into Bren's ear.
karmic grotto
Lmao
dapper lantern
MID RUN
dreamy cave
Welp
forest wharf
worn falcon
HAHAHAHA
dreamy cave
GG NO RE
south brook
Expected
jolly steeple
they should have let gesture play during the talent takedown
worn falcon
Soe predicted it
mint slate
ok now bren is actually going to try
night tusk
does gesture actually wants to play
dim raptor
bren may have gotten 1 on gesture, but even viol2t could destroy bren
upper niche
Bren: "Fine, I'll just settle for beating Kephrii instead".
worn hornet
Gesture said he was gonna give him one
dreamy cave
He has his 1
jolly steeple
bren will settle for beating a controller player
vale pond
OH SHIT
spring heath
!!!
dapper lantern
oH
quasi stump
he did it
south brook
Oooh
forest wharf
dreamy cave
HES GOT THE 2
forest scarab
The comeback
dapper lantern
he can do it
worn falcon
OH SHT
night tusk
😂
mint slate
HJE DID IT
dapper lantern
he can pull it back
mint slate
HUGE
night tusk
😂 👌
dreamy cave
Its over after this
vale pond
dogman is hyping him up lol
hidden osprey
Who did this 👌 😂
spring heath
paid leave huh
quasi stump
hahaha
vale pond
paid actors
hidden osprey
NA gets paid leave? lul
dapper lantern
lmao
south brook
Oh bren my dude
forest wharf
upper niche
This is where health bars ruin the game a bit.
night tusk
