esports-discussion

[tardy isle]

Since the 5-2 beats the 4-3 differentials won’t matter

[echo quest]

^

[lament sleet]

Shanghai da best

[tardy isle]

Which means that the only spot that isn’t guaranteed rn is the dragons, spark, and dynasty

[little silo]

oh no dragons are in

their seeding isnt clear yet but theyre in

[tardy isle]

Oh you right

Cuz only one team can go up out of spark and dynasty

[echo quest]

Spark need 7th

SHD needs to get 4-0 by Shock which is likely and spark need to 4-0 Seoul which is unlikely

[tardy isle]

Dynasty need 8th

[supple prism]

I'm betting on the final match just never happening so boston gets in, lol

[reef imp]

Are these all gonna be Star Wars references?

...Yep.

[dreamy cave]

aye fam look

[cursive talon]

shanghai cannot het knocked out correct. if they lose 0-4 they still end up in 8th. Only dynasty and charge can lose or win playoff spot.

[dreamy cave]

i just wanna say even though nyxl lost. there still great. better than most.

[limber pine]

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Stage 2 - Week 5 of the Overwatch League is live in 5 minutes!

DAY 4 MATCHES

12:00 PM PST: Toronto Defiant vs Paris Eternal
1:45 PM PST: Washington Justice vs Boston Uprising
3:30 PM PST: Shanghai Dragons vs San Francisco Shock
5:15 PM PST: Seoul Dynasty vs Hangzhou Spark

Watch live at:
🇬🇧 https://www.twitch.tv/overwatchleague

Full schedule:
🗓 https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/schedule

[fallen cloak]

lol

he called out the wrong team

"MAKE SOME NOISE FOR THE PARIS ETERNAL"

toronto defiant screen

[dreamy cave]

rokey looks malnourished

feed that man

[azure harbor]

SHD to playoff

[dreamy cave]

his skin wasnt right??

another pause???

[supple prism]

alright defiant 3-1

[azure harbor]

production quality

[minor flame]

god twitch is so shitty

imagine putting pop up ads on your own client screens

[exotic token]

pause hell

[balmy wolf]

[azure harbor]

[cursive talon]

not watching atm, pause?

[fervent acorn]

Can someone tell me what's happening

[azure harbor]

1-0 for Paris I think

[silk tiger]

before first match even started, there was already a game pause, then just as they were about to resume...another pause

[azure harbor]

I mean 1-0 on map 1

[fervent acorn]

Why do the security just like

Ye but too many pauses

[silk tiger]

shit happens though, so I understand

[little silo]

i forgot how bad Soons tracking is

[balmy wolf]

Hello everyone, I am doing a survey for my PhD in esports sponsorships at the University of Vic - UCC and I would like to ask for your participation in filling out this anonymous 8 minute questionnaire. You will be helping me a lot by answering these questions.

Here is the link to the online survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfC4nhTD5PN5VQE9c_Uilnr-hpKdzLNZtsWPWFW-Yt9IhduxQ/viewform?usp=sf_link

Thank you so much in advance.

This survey has been approved by the moderator DGauze.

[supple prism]

another damn survey?

[azure harbor]

they want to know all about us to make a bio weapon

[minor flame]

why does everyone want to make a phd survey of overwatch

[balmy wolf]

lol actually the objective is to know what esports fans most want from esports sponsors 😉 (like what type of value they should bring the the scene)

[supple prism]

well duh sponsors can bring value to esports

its called money

[azure harbor]

Soon

[supple prism]

money

money and free shit

[dreamy cave]

it looked like lucio was on it in time

[balmy wolf]

We can all agree that their main objective should not just be commercial success, they must also enhance the esports experience, and this survey seeks to know what kind of things esports fans most want from esports sponsors 😉

[supple prism]

and make it easier to view the games

sponsors? no they are just for money. Its up to the esport itself to make it a better experience

and supplying monitors

brought to you by Omen

[balmy wolf]

yeah that is one of the questions 😉 the survey does not assume that esports sponsors are already bringing value to esports, it asks what esports sponsors should do to bring value

[supple prism]

money

buy a team

[balmy wolf]

those are some of the answer options in the survey XD

[supple prism]

or a guess special events

but really thats all on the esport itself

[azure harbor]

strippers to dance during technical pauses

[balmy wolf]

better put that in the survey, unfortunaly I'm not authorized to collect data from the chat (that would be unethical)

lol

[supple prism]

because the esport has the copyrights and would get upset if a sponsor is making money off their content without their permission

[azure harbor]

"unethical" about gathering data in 2019

[balmy wolf]

yeah this survey is for a sicentific journal, all ethical guidelines must be followed

[supple prism]

fill out a survey for basic knowledge?

its not like this stuff hasnt been happening for decades

[azure harbor]

to be fair basic knowledge has to be proven

[balmy wolf]

unfortunately not everyone shares basic knwoledge. surveys allow people's opinion to be known

[dreamy cave]

i mean, as long as its less cring when ur showing off/ promoting your product. make it 100% natural and not feel like theres actors. if it aint 💯 your 0

and common knowledge isnt always common. same can be said for esports. its still kind of new to ppl. i wouldnt be surprised if there are a handfull of people who dont know or understand the concept if it.

[rare sable]

still freaking out over atl beating nyxl a second time god damn

[supple prism]

kinda confirms titans will just run over NYXL and maybe even Shock and possibly any team with a strong dps comp or a nice sombra will beat NYXL.

[balmy wolf]

dont think titans will have an easy time over shock

ever since the finals shock have been improving a lot

[supple prism]

yea shock is possibly the last hope to beat the titans

[little silo]

they have been for quite a while. People dont really trust NY anymore

But NY are still more likely to beat Titans than pretty much any team other than Shock

[balmy wolf]

yea if NY got their crap together then maybe

[little silo]

they have been very shaky in the last 2 weeks

but theyre still better than some people say

You cant really call a team that was unbeaten for 12 matches trash

But they havent looked good in Stage 1 playoffs and against Atlanta

they might have some internal issues rn

[balmy wolf]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

mean while im still bum out on the paris roster

so many questionable players

[little silo]

Cloudy?

[balmy wolf]

no

mostly the dps

[little silo]

even soon is questionable aside from his widow

but his zarya...

[balmy wolf]

finisi is the only zarya players but they dont play him

nico... is just there

[little silo]

no idea why nico is the dva

finnsi was a decent dva

[balmy wolf]

if you wanna create an EU superteam, then actually pick up some good EU contenders teams

[little silo]

Do you consider Kruise to be a problem?

[balmy wolf]

the team is under performing, all the players are gonna look meh either way

tho yes, kruise is a odd ball of an lucio

[little silo]

I have more faith in Danye than in Soon tbh

have we seen Danyes Zarya yet?

[balmy wolf]

dont think so

[little silo]

it cant be much worse than Soons

[azure harbor]

[little silo]

They should try it they dont have anything to lose

[balmy wolf]

so many EU contenders team that they beat paris rn

[little silo]

Grey is actually a decent flex support

[ruby pendant]

!schedule

[somber yew]

Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 2 Week 5

undefined TOR vs PAR undefined

May 5th 15:00 EDT (an hour ago)

undefined WAS vs BOS <:BOS:438251672633081857>

May 5th 16:45 EDT (in 25 minutes)

<:SHD:438251672599527437> SHD vs SFS <:SFS:438251672712642571>

May 5th 18:30 EDT (in 2 hours)

<:SEO:438251672754585602> SEO vs HZS undefined

May 5th 20:15 EDT (in 4 hours)

Developed with LOVE by MoonFire · May 5, 2019, 8:20 PM

[tawny sigil]

uber'S attempt at humor is always so bad

does anyone even care about these matches right now

the 2 first match of the day that is

jsut watching for the sake of watch

[little silo]

Washington vs Boston could be okay

the last 2 matches are interesting

[tawny sigil]

yeah but its non consequencial

[fresh epoch]

Nicogdh is one of the few sombra who does emp right.

[little silo]

Few?

[fresh epoch]

yeah some even in owl dont wait for the team to be ready.

its quite sad.

[little silo]

Yakpung wtf

Yakpung is just trying to be Bumper at this point

[trim shadow]

NO SUPRISEEE

Paris got clapped

[strong cairn]

this will be 4-0 for Toronto

[upper niche]

Did that Zen ult go off way early??

[supple prism]

nice 4-0

[blazing parrot]

i got muted for putting a singular emote in chat wth (PunchTrees)

[dreamy cave]

who won last game?

what was the score?

[blazing parrot]

4-0 toronto

[dreamy cave]

oh damn

sad

[blazing parrot]

i didnt care who won

[dreamy cave]

true

still seeing a 4-0 is sad

[blazing parrot]

yeah

[dreamy cave]

getting absolutly stomped isnt fun

[blazing parrot]

i mean, lijang and gibraltar were really close

[dreamy cave]

unless u root for the team

[blazing parrot]

believe me i know

i support houston

[dreamy cave]

oof

[supple prism]

everyone fucks houston

[blazing parrot]

yep

everyone fucks houston indeed

i love how i have a roblox game afk in the background lol

[dreamy cave]

i like the fact they call doomfist zarya combo space jam

ARK spamming the love it

[balmy flower]

what the fuck is justice doing

[supple prism]

the oddest rotation ever

[vagrant niche]

who is the weak link on Justice? Janus?

[supple prism]

the coach

[vagrant niche]

the wizard?

[azure harbor]

yellow shoes

[tawny sigil]

you'Re gonna need a phone with the spy app on at all time with an online connection to attend OWWC

also... "i'm a very non smelly person, i smell great"

words or someone that smells bad and doesnt realize you can not smell your own body smell

[azure harbor]

reverse sweep?

[drowsy fulcrum]

Boston can you do me a fucking favour and not lose to Washington

[vale pond]

when does houston play washington/mayhem

mayhem is probably worse so I wanna see them stomp houston

[forest wharf]

so if washington loses this game that'll be 3 teams 0-7 this stage

[little silo]

Aimgod with the trans rush nice

[forest wharf]

WizardHyeong has some of the smartest set plays and guys like Janus and Sansam execute them to perfection. Once Sleepy gets more comfortable playing with the rest of the roster, I can see them being at least a top 5 team

[little silo]

make it stop

[mint slate]

shot collar

[night tusk]

lol 2-2

[azure harbor]

they are doing it

[night tusk]

Boston wins from gladiators but .. .2-2 with justice..

https://twitter.com/MattMrX/status/1125169544077692929

Matt Morello (@MattMrX)

Wild that Boston beats LAG, then next game goes game 5 with Justice

Atlanta beats NYXL then loses to Charge

Wild stage 2 #OWL2019

Twitter

[supple prism]

its "do what you want" week

[visual glen]

lol those ults

[balmy wolf]

welp their done

[visual glen]

justice is ded

[balmy wolf]

their ult usage is so horrible

[night tusk]

i have seen this a lot

map 5, colourhex widow, boston wins

[visual glen]

justice is awful

[balmy wolf]

this wouldn't be happening if justice can properly use ults

wasted grav and barrier

[night tusk]

do it for the ice cream

[visual glen]

watch them blow all ults next fight then lose the fight after

[azure harbor]

[simple badger]

that sleep

[night tusk]

omg

[visual glen]

are they gonna do it

!

[north beacon]

Best sleep dart I’ve ever seen

It’s hard to interrupt EMP

[night tusk]

rck wont die

[visual glen]

kellex just hiding lol

[night tusk]

POG

[visual glen]

oh snap

[azure harbor]

[tawny sigil]

i guess someone is buying some icecream

[nova wadi]

Justice gonna buy ice cream

[forest wharf]

not 0-7

[supple prism]

justice above outlaws

[night tusk]

😢

[visual glen]

daheck happened to boston

[azure harbor]

ice cream for everyone

[gaunt acorn]

YIKES

[visual glen]

how did they go from clutching against glads to losing to justice

[trim shadow]

Boston got reversed sweep

The big 3 inconsistent

Chengdu Atlanta boston

[balmy wolf]

glads lost to this team

[night tusk]

[supple prism]

shock 3-2

[night tusk]

oh I hope somehow shanghai wins

[visual glen]

bring out the junkrat

[zealous venture]

If you wanted Washington to win: fuck you

[north beacon]

It really does come down to consistency. I mean Atlanta beat NY twice and lost to plenty of other teams. Doesn’t really say anything about all the other teams

[trim shadow]

Dividing zero on suicide watxh

[night tusk]

it was cute how they all hugged each other

[trim shadow]

Youll be suprised

[zealous venture]

I’m so mad

[trim shadow]

I actually had washington at 3-2

[zealous venture]

🤬

[trim shadow]

My reason

Sleepy

[visual glen]

N OMEGALUL

[zealous venture]

I am surprised no one is mad

Cause I am

[autumn briar]

OMG

[azure harbor]

math of the day now

[autumn briar]

ICE CREAM

[trim shadow]

Bostons discord is probably on fire

[zealous venture]

stfu

It is

[autumn briar]

Thats so nutty

[zealous venture]

we are going out to cause havick

[autumn briar]

My days going great lmao

[trim shadow]

FEEL MY PAIN WHEN ATLANTA GAVE THE VALIANT THERE FIRST FUCKING WIN

[distant badger]

Justice > Boston > Glads

[night tusk]

https://twitter.com/hexagrams/status/1124496769218437120 THIS WAS BEFORE GLADIATORS MATCH

hexagrams (@hexagrams)

Everybody, write it down this time: "You can't bet against the @BostonUprising." #OWL2019

Likes

423

Twitter

[trim shadow]

LMAO

[night tusk]

https://twitter.com/Reinforce/status/1124520075543891973

Jonathan Larsson (@Reinforce)

@BostonUprising EVERYBODY, WRITE IT DOWN THIS TIME: "YOU CAN'T BET AGAINST THE @BOSTONUPRISING." #OWL2019

Likes

130

Twitter

[tawny sigil]

that video is irrelevant

that video is about knowing what you get into

you never know what question they'Re gonna ask

cant prepare for things like... bren walking on stage asking you to smash an orange on his head

[trim shadow]

Imb4 twitch chat says rigged match

[night tusk]

https://twitter.com/raegarooni/status/1125172675687485440 how cute

hunters raegan! 🐼 (@raegarooni)

AUGH https://t.co/qZrZ4V4TlJ

▶ Play video

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[tawny sigil]

rigged match for the ice cream industry

[night tusk]

https://twitter.com/carpeburn/status/1125149539378311169

evan kojima (@carpeburn)

it looks like boston set themselves to all shock icons so washington went all titans. insanely alpha icon strategy

Likes

103

Twitter

[mint slate]

LmAO

[balmy wolf]

good on justice for not going 0-7

[supple prism]

for never going 0-7

[forest wharf]

imagine being first team to lose to shanghai then losing to justice

[supple prism]

val has, mayhem has, and outlaws has

[balmy wolf]

next match gonna be spicy

[distant badger]

Outlaw 0-7 Justice 1-6 lawl

[balmy wolf]

top tier goats vs sombra goats

[visual glen]

Outlaws

[night tusk]

I don’t think Boston is bad

Because of this

[supple prism]

boston is locked mid tier

[distant badger]

I think they were almost caught off guard by the Justice not being terrible for once

[balmy wolf]

oh boston is decent, just went bot mode in the end

[night tusk]

Only match I think they looked bad (did not really watch this match btw) is vs the Titans. Even it is the Titans. It looked really bad. But maybe no 1 looks good vs titans besides shock

[tawny sigil]

this should be a good match

[trim shadow]

Good on justice for not being this years shanghai

Boston has had the mid tier curse ever since last year

[night tusk]

I root for shanghai, hope they can do it somehow

[visual glen]

Luffy's afro

[trim shadow]

I have shanghai 3-1

[half flint]

A matchup i want to see is vancouver titans vs new your excelsior

[forest wharf]

thats not an afro??

[night tusk]

https://twitter.com/sleepy/status/1125173923912536067

󠀀󠀀 󠀀󠀀 󠀀󠀀 (@sleepy)

I was so speechless honestly surprised I managed to say anything thank u guys so much for all the support

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216

Twitter

[tawny sigil]

if shanghai win they'll probably get 6th seed here

[visual glen]

[night tusk]

the next match really matters for stage playoffs

idk if its just who wins or map score does matter

[trim shadow]

Shanghai 6-6 cried

[tawny sigil]

this specifict one mostly matter to see if shanghai is 6,7 or 8

[trim shadow]

Next match is game of the week

[night tusk]

insane stats

mods

can you ban him

lummi,

[nova wadi]

Did u know u can

Just report to modmail

And not say mods ban pls

[night tusk]

spamming video, not related to OWL/Contenders

good luck :p

[forest wharf]

[cursive talon]

So all that gets decided this match is whether SanFran gets first seed. Assuming they lose 4-0, They dont get first seed if 3-2 loss. edit... 3-2 win yes.

[supple prism]

no

[night tusk]

they need to take this point or shanghai is already in trouble...

they most likely will lose kingsrow

[azure harbor]

[trim shadow]

Its happening

[karmic grotto]

Fucking heck

[night tusk]

[forest wharf]

[karmic grotto]

Gamsu looks like a female coworker of mine

[trim shadow]

@balmy wolf they revamped

[nova wadi]

That was also a whole different team

[night tusk]

they are first chinese team who are in the playoffs right now

[cursive talon]

I like the dps adaptation for 3-3. Good to see.

[forest wharf]

they bought enough koreans to be good now

[nova wadi]

Hmm why play this

[forest wharf]

[night tusk]

omg, this was really one sided

gg

[balmy wolf]

yikes

[karmic grotto]

Sometimes

Not having a dva

[visual glen]

[karmic grotto]

Makes big difference

Without defense matrix ♿

[night tusk]

this is not even stage playoffs..

[cursive talon]

lol wut

[balmy wolf]

ok...

[karmic grotto]

2cp

[balmy wolf]

jesus shock

[karmic grotto]

Snowball effect of course

[cursive talon]

welp still capped. shatter the wall, new psychological warfare

[balmy wolf]

guess dragons really do need a dva

[night tusk]

https://twitter.com/SFShock/status/1125179411395780609

San Francisco Shock⚡ (@SFShock)

OASIS IS OURS!!!!! What's better than a 24-0 streak?

📺: https://t.co/zLiqf2f9tL https://t.co/Zv6HMPnd6a

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[karmic grotto]

Lmao

They didn't see low dva

Tunnel vision

Extreme tunnel vision

[supple prism]

Shock with the new fast time

putting SHD at second highest

[karmic grotto]

Hello, geguri?

Where are you

[supple prism]

geguri is dva only

[tawny sigil]

awwww

[night tusk]

WTF

WTF WTF WTF 😮

[supple prism]

and stopped a better time

[tawny sigil]

so close

[karmic grotto]

Again

Tunnel vision

Jesus

Are they blind or something

[tawny sigil]

well that was not even good play that was just luck

[serene tendon]

he just said batista

[karmic grotto]

Lmao

Oof

Shattered

[supple prism]

this is gonna go into the 8s

[karmic grotto]

And hacked

[night tusk]

2CP

[balmy wolf]

still pretty bad defense

every time shock runs a sombra on defense it goes sour

[reef imp]

this is

this is horrible

OK, they're getting better.

[inland pawn]

how did they get another emp already wtf lol

EZ Clap

[karmic grotto]

Some guy got salty on sub

Saying emp is horribly designed

Well, explain how defense matrix isn't

[night tusk]

Choi tafuq

[karmic grotto]

Lmao

Dragons

Again

[nova wadi]

Shanghai is stubborn

[karmic grotto]

Same mistake

Gets punished

[night tusk]

choi agane

[karmic grotto]

Just use your sombra thing

...

Dragons for fuck sake

Stop using Pharah on defense

[azure harbor]

2cp

[karmic grotto]

Sombra goats much better suited for this map

Also

Paris is a bad map

[nova wadi]

Paris is garbage

[karmic grotto]

Snowball too ez

Who the heck designed it that way?

Why Paris isn't even a payload map?

[balmy wolf]

who knows

this map is never fun to watch tho

[karmic grotto]

Neither to play

F

No dva

Takes its toll

[azure harbor]

[inland pawn]

C R I N G E

[tawny sigil]

just what i imagine every white supremacist party to be like

[native sage]

can someone explain to me how tf the uprising lost to the justice?

to say that im confused is an understatement

[inland pawn]

choi -HOE- bin my mans cant even say his name right 😂

[upper niche]

@native sage Still scratching my head at LDN vs SHD.

[azure harbor]

playing without Dva

[minor flame]

the uprising lost to the justice cause the justice are actually turning decent

also boston kinda suck

[azure harbor]

[inland pawn]

dding's emps are legit hard carrying

[balmy wolf]

welp they got it in overtime

[karmic grotto]

Found a way to break it

Boi

They had one support ult more

How you mean found a way to break it?

[quasi stump]

ddings emps make me hard

[karmic grotto]

Wtf gamsu

Suicide charging on low health

[balmy flower]

dragons have super good focus

[minor flame]

Shanghai has been playing well for all the maps

[karmic grotto]

Is this plat

[minor flame]

its just the Shock is just way better in coordination

shanghai is still looking best here

[balmy flower]

yeah cause they could lose the game soon if they dont play well

[quasi stump]

that boop

also that one lol

[balmy flower]

"nice shatter" ?

stupid

[quasi stump]

oh come on

what an epic meltdown

[azure harbor]

[minor flame]

that was a pretty nice shatter

[tawny sigil]

uber can you shut the fuck up

[minor flame]

you got the grav holding zarya

[tawny sigil]

he has no idea wtf he's saying

[karmic grotto]

Exactly

[balmy wolf]

oof

[balmy flower]

this commentary is hot garbage

[karmic grotto]

Also

[pearl stratus]

I'd much prefer the plat chat on discord to commentate on the game.

With their combined 2300 SR.

[minor flame]

OH WOW

[karmic grotto]

Diem could have used his Zarya bubble better

[minor flame]

THEY DIDNT LOSE

BY 1 SEC

LMAO

[quasi stump]

loool

[karmic grotto]

Didn't he predict dva bomb incoming?

[quasi stump]

mercy minute

not gonna help

[karmic grotto]

Seems like ult tracking issue

[quasi stump]

confused about the doomfist

[inland pawn]

youngjin's doomfist is trash

[quasi stump]

wow

[minor flame]

i mean

do you really expect a rein

[azure harbor]

[minor flame]

to charge your rocket punch

[tawny sigil]

almost stay on this?

[quasi stump]

WOW

[inland pawn]

GAMSU

[azure harbor]

GAMSU

[quasi stump]

can they reach next point??

surely shock contest

[balmy flower]

3 ults to use

[quasi stump]

no?

yes

wow

[minor flame]

THEY CAN

YOUNGJIN

[quasi stump]

now the doom is working

sort of

[minor flame]

damn

[quasi stump]

yeah never mind lol

[minor flame]

supports are carrying

hard

OH WAIT

THEY RESSED YOUNGJIN

so close

that was a

unexpectedly good push

[azure harbor]

[quasi stump]

winnable?

[karmic grotto]

You know what I bet

[serene tendon]

how did they lose that fight?

[balmy flower]

winnable

[azure harbor]

very winnable

[inland pawn]

4Gitte

[karmic grotto]

If shock were to play dps against dragons dps

[minor flame]

cause Moth is their best player

[balmy flower]

winnable for sure, they're not out yet

[visual glen]

was youngjin picking his nose again

[inland pawn]

and youngjin not very good on DF

LUL

[minor flame]

Youngjin got like 2 picks

lol

[karmic grotto]

Still better tho

Still good*

[minor flame]

2 picks from youngjin almost won them that

[karmic grotto]

At least better than that contenders player

[pearl stratus]

Youngjin is playing his DF fine, if you understand what he's doing./

[minor flame]

Moth just decided to carry

[pearl stratus]

If you don't understand what he's doing, then you think he's feeding because you're low key dumb af.

[inland pawn]

bruh he died to 4Gitte i know theres nothing he can do

[pearl stratus]

He's forcing Rascal to no longer push into Gamsu by playing back onto the supports.

[inland pawn]

but he definitely aint good

[pearl stratus]

He literally shifted the entire focus of the Brigitte from front line to back.

I get that you don't undertand that, and its okay.

[azure harbor]

Diem

[nova wadi]

Heheh im big brain B) 😎 😎

Epic bruh moment

[visual glen]

5Head

[minor flame]

huh

Dding

?

what

what

[visual glen]

👋

[pearl stratus]

They're already out, nerd.

They can only tie, not win.

[quasi stump]

?

I hope you're not referring to the dragons

[visual glen]

Didn't uber say map 5 or something

[pearl stratus]

No

[quasi stump]

game

[nova wadi]

Feelsbadman

[azure harbor]

[visual glen]

[minor flame]

what a dding throw

[karmic grotto]

Nah

Diem

[echo quest]

Ez clap

[karmic grotto]

Out of position

[pearl stratus]

It was a bad EMP, either way.

[minor flame]

dding has a essential game winning ult

[inland pawn]

dding 😢

[karmic grotto]

That too

[south brook]

/tense/

[minor flame]

can literally turn the tides

[pearl stratus]

But it spiraled off of Diem.

[cursive talon]

Shock has now won the division lead.

[karmic grotto]

Dding lmao

[trim shadow]

Flawless stage incoming

[karmic grotto]

What kind of emp was that

He should have waited for a bit

[inland pawn]

NA emp

[pearl cedar]

that was a choke

[trim shadow]

I commited suicide thinking shanghai was gonna win

[pearl cedar]

he had great emps all of kings row

[trim shadow]

I repent father

[pearl cedar]

and chokes there

[minor flame]

he either fat fingered or thought he translocatored off the roof

and hit the other side of the building

i think he expected that

but accidently hit the opposite side

[karmic grotto]

Lucky shock then

Lucky

[minor flame]

that is lucky

[karmic grotto]

Sometimes games are won by luck

[pearl stratus]

Yeah, either way the games been closer than I expected overall.

[minor flame]

I actually dont know what Dding did exactly there but thats my best guess

Surprisingly yeah, the games have been closer than expected

[karmic grotto]

Good luck shock against playoffs

[tawny sigil]

rematch next week

[karmic grotto]

Hue hue hue

Shock will need it

[pearl stratus]

You can tell how much shock prepared for Pharah too.

Like a lot of pharah prep

[reef imp]

Fine. They didn't win.

[minor flame]

Shock being Shanghais scrim partner must be really beneficial for them

like hard beneficial

[reef imp]

But take the damn map away, JUST TO SPITE THEM.

[minor flame]

cause they anticipate all the types of strats shanghai does

[pearl stratus]

Beneficial on both sides, tbh.

[karmic grotto]

And that's why

[balmy flower]

!score

[karmic grotto]

Dragons shouldn't scrim shock

[minor flame]

its way harder to readd the type of strats shock has

when theyre the one running the hard goats

[karmic grotto]

It's like telling your opponent your strats

[pearl stratus]

Honestly I would scrim them, even if it means things like this.

[minor flame]

its much easier to read shanghai when they do the type of typical dps comps

[pearl stratus]

The overall benefit outweighs this negative.

[karmic grotto]

Better scrim titans then

[pearl stratus]

No, you want to scrim a team that can play lots of things.

For a scrim partner I'd always pick Shock over Titans.

[karmic grotto]

You wanna say titans can't play?

[pearl stratus]

I wanna say Titans are mediocre as fuck so far on anything not 3:3.

[minor flame]

Shanghai may learn alot of things from scrimming Shock overall

[karmic grotto]

Member this week how they went full meme comp and won

[minor flame]

but it may turn out for them to be

losing them

when they actually face each other

[pearl stratus]

They weren't even playing a real team.

That's like putting in your B team against Florida.

It's not exactly a hard flex.

[minor flame]

overall I think Shocks coordination is just way too hard to take out

Choi delaying himself to take out Dding on Pharah

[pearl stratus]

Just the way Shock plays, coordinates and is coached its the team I'd want to scrim.

[minor flame]

Shock knowing that Luffy is left behind

[pearl stratus]

Even if given the Vancouver option.

[minor flame]

they know all the types of strats Shanghai run

and exploit the weaknesses

[pearl stratus]

I'm not saying Vancouver is bad, their record speaks for itself.

But in terms of a team that you'll grow more against playing?

Shock would always be my choice.

[minor flame]

im not that sad about Shanghai losing

this was like the most likely thing to happen and i knew it

shanghai has overall played atleast well

today

I rather that than a sweep

whether or not reddit seems to say "lol shanghai bad"

[karmic grotto]

Maybe if they had dva player for certain moments

[pearl stratus]

Dding can play D'va, I just don't think it translates 1:1 to be worth it versus his Sombra.

[karmic grotto]

And they still lost team fights

[minor flame]

putting in geguri for dding throughout all the maps would prob still lose them

[karmic grotto]

Because not having Dva

[minor flame]

either more hard or less hard

[pearl stratus]

More, imo.

[karmic grotto]

Not saying geguri all maps tho

[pearl stratus]

Because she can't flex to anything useful.

[minor flame]

look

Choi

[karmic grotto]

Just one map at least

[minor flame]

Choi shits on Geguri

like no competiition

and Sinatraa is very aggressive for Geguris tastes

she'll be taken down easily

[pearl stratus]

They've lost every map they subbed Geguri in for minus..

1

I believe.

They just play better with the Sombra, even if it means that have a lower team fight win %.

[karmic grotto]

Just get a good dva

[pearl stratus]

I'm not saying its right, just how they work right now.

[minor flame]

oh well

Shanghai mightve choked that

[pearl stratus]

Geguri is a good D'va, in my opinion. Just not a flexible one.

[minor flame]

and Diem and people mightve been out of position

def some times

but I think Shanghai did pretty decent

for facing

you know the fucking Shock

[pearl stratus]

One of the things I dislike from the casters is they're giving so much shit about the D'va thing.

But I can only remember Choi eating that Grav, no others.

The only other thing it would have done would have been to help dampen Moira balls.

[minor flame]

you know surprisingly

Diem

hasnt whiffed that many gravs

[visual glen]

youngjin stop picking your nose

[pearl stratus]

Also as a side note.

I bet they can utilize the Doomfist better if they don't rotate Diem to Widow.

[minor flame]

as a side note

i dont think youngjin is that bad holy shit

[pearl stratus]

He's not.

[minor flame]

hes been performing pretty well for what hes been given with

[karmic grotto]

Who was that player

That played doomfist again

Jinmu?

[minor flame]

yes

[pearl stratus]

I'd put him in top 3-4 of Brigittes alone, then his flexes to Roadhog are huge.

[minor flame]

I think alot of Shock winning

[pearl stratus]

His soldier is good too, doomfist is typically more than fine.

[minor flame]

is the support clutching

[pearl stratus]

It's how they're coached.

[minor flame]

Viol2ts Moira is incredibly useful

Moth gets key picks

[solar olive]

All hail Flex players

[minor flame]

and Rascal is just good

[pearl stratus]

They're coached to problem solve themselves.

So things don't surprise them.

[solar olive]

The true unsung heroes lol

[minor flame]

ppl say that like Sinatraa popped off

honestly

I think the MVP should be Moth

[karmic grotto]

Coaching. How?

[pearl stratus]

Crusty in his interview stated he doesn't coach them just on comps or stuff anymore.

[karmic grotto]

Logical

[pearl stratus]

He's been doing an entire stage of problem solving, so all the players are able to think on the fly.

[karmic grotto]

Basic fundamentals

[pearl stratus]

So they adjust to problems quickly and efficiently.

They don't delay on their swaps.

[karmic grotto]

Game knowledge

[pearl stratus]

They just do it.

Hence the Moira here, or luring in the Pharah on Paris.

[karmic grotto]

Now that I think about

Pharah is the only hero

That stays up in the air for a long time

[echo quest]

Can’t watch rn

Did shock win?

[karmic grotto]

If you were to have 2 heroes in the skies

[minor flame]

yes closely

[karmic grotto]

[pearl stratus]

I mean you could argue Mercy does as well.

But its due to Pharah.

[echo quest]

Did they win the final map?

[minor flame]

not yet

[echo quest]

Ah kk

[karmic grotto]

Having a sky tank would be something fun

[reef imp]

Take the map, Dragons. TAKE THE MAP.

[minor flame]

ehhh

[pearl stratus]

I like the Dragons for the same reason I respect Justice while I make fun of them.

They typically always improve, rather than plateau or decline.

[trim shadow]

Flawless stage incoming

[pearl stratus]

And this season thats rare

Since so many of the teams are fucking garbage.

[trim shadow]

@pearl stratus you were watxhing that boston upset hun

[karmic grotto]

The teams can't adapt to goats

If they don't scrim goats for months

Or played in World Cup

[pearl stratus]

I've watched most of Washington, that was Bostons fault though.

[distant badger]

There's the teams that are good at goats and the teams that aren't

[pearl stratus]

Boston lost that game more than Washington won it.

[trim shadow]

Pretty much

[pearl stratus]

There was no reason for them to try weird DPS bullshit.

[distant badger]

and it can be very easy to tell the difference

[karmic grotto]

Valiant

Season 1

Incredible team, can't play goats for shit

[pearl stratus]

I mean London.

Just stage 1 vs. Stage 2.

[minor flame]

Shock is

[pearl stratus]

There's maybe a half dozen teams who play 3:3 well enough to really be considered a goats team.

[minor flame]

amazingly well

[karmic grotto]

Why the hell shcok

[minor flame]

at shutting down Dding

[karmic grotto]

Is playing slambulance

[minor flame]

They have Ddings Pharahs number

all the time

[pearl stratus]

Smart move to waste a ton of time at spawn, tbh.

[karmic grotto]

Can't they play dps? Or making it fun

[minor flame]

every barrage he does

YOUNGJIN

THAT SAVE ON GAMSU

[karmic grotto]

Shock seems like the team that plays so hard into goats, when dps meta comes they will fall off and other teams will shine

[pearl stratus]

I doubt it

[karmic grotto]

Look at that

Fucking shield bash

Gone tracer

[minor flame]

Shock has a lot of dps specialists though

most of the specialists are like mid-top tier in what they do

[pearl stratus]

Yeah you'll see Sinatraa drop off.

Striker will step up.

Rascal and Architect will rotate.

[karmic grotto]

But are they scrimming for that?

[minor flame]

are any of the teams scrimming for that?

[karmic grotto]

Dps teams

[minor flame]

what

like 2 teams

lol

[pearl stratus]

Thats assuming the dps comps will stay the same.

[karmic grotto]

Not always

[pearl stratus]

Most of the dps comps right now are picked around countering Goats.

More than being DPS teams.

So it could be an entire shift of what heroes are the dps meta ones.

[minor flame]

thats gg

Shanghai has done better than I expected

[reef imp]

damn it

[nova wadi]

Doubt cause 3dps is good against most comps

[minor flame]

they actually gave Shock atleast some challenge

[karmic grotto]

Echooooooo

Come soon

Rekt goats

[nova wadi]

And if dps comps will change it will be double sniper

[pearl stratus]

3 DPS is, but what 3 DPS has a high chance to change.

I.E. More Sniper/hitscan etc.

[minor flame]

Hitscan Sniper dominates the ladder

[trim shadow]

Andd flawless stage

[minor flame]

if Goats goes gone then I expect double sniper to be a key meta

[nova wadi]

Super fun meta btw

Double sniper

🙂

[karmic grotto]

Triple hitscan

Or maybe snipers

[pearl stratus]

I'd rather watch another year of goats than a sniper meta.

[karmic grotto]

Widow /Hanzo / ashe

[nova wadi]

Ashe sucks

[karmic grotto]

You can't play ashe

Noob

[pearl stratus]

Sniper metas are boring af for me. So much time resetting from one pick etc.

[nova wadi]

Go away adriel

Small brain

[karmic grotto]

[trim shadow]

Watch theese 3-3 gods falter when dps is the meta

[pearl stratus]

Oh shit Danny handed over the mic

[trim shadow]

Espect nyxl

[minor flame]

Stage 2-4 in OWL S1

really spoiled me

my appetite

cause its was just double sniper

alot of the time

[tawny sigil]

DADDY'S MIC GIVES ENGLISH POWERS

[karmic grotto]

Time to watch shock lose against spitfire

[trim shadow]

Which was fun

[cursive talon]

now for the last make it or break it.

[minor flame]

no it fucking wasnt lol

every fucking game

[trim shadow]

Pretty sure san fran gets the number 1?

[minor flame]

like 1/2 chance

[trim shadow]

So seoul or hangzhou

[minor flame]

youll get a widow

[trim shadow]

F for hangzhou

[pearl stratus]

Shanghai threw this game, upsets Shock in first round of finals.

That'd be hilarious.

[trim shadow]

But new york will beat san fran

[minor flame]

owl is still on anime script

[pearl stratus]

I don't see NYXL beating this Shock.

[minor flame]

it depends

[pearl stratus]

NYXLs biggest weakness has always been tempo.

If a team sets the tempo, not NYXL, NYXL loses.

Every time.

[minor flame]

NYXL must be like hardcore prepping for the top teams

not for any other teams

and its messing them up pretty hard

[pearl stratus]

Honestly I think as shit as Atlanta is they do a good job of playing their own game.

[trim shadow]

Nyxl got a wake up call by dropping to atlanta twice

[pearl stratus]

And NYXL can't adjust to that.

[trim shadow]

I expect them to play with hunger

[pearl stratus]

It's like watching them play LAV a lot last year.

[nova wadi]

Glads can win from excelsior tbh

[pearl stratus]

Any team can, tbh.

It's all about momentum and tempo.

[karmic grotto]

Spitfire

[pearl stratus]

NYXL plays mechanically cleanly, but not adaptably.

[karmic grotto]

Leggoooooo{

[minor flame]

my bet

my bet is that someone takes down NYXL and Titans

before the finals

[karmic grotto]

Shock/gladiators/spitfire

[pearl stratus]

How great would it be if NYXL, Titans and Shock all went out first week.

None of us would know what to do.

[minor flame]

nah

Glads is too inconsistent

[pearl stratus]

It won't happen

[minor flame]

theyll choke on tripping

[pearl stratus]

But it'd be hilarious

[minor flame]

before the second map

[balmy wolf]

rip DF lel

[karmic grotto]

Dallas goes super Saiyan mode and defeats titans

[night tusk]

Rip dallas lol

[minor flame]

dallas is still pretty

uhhh

meh?

[pearl stratus]

Dallas just needs better coaches.

[minor flame]

I dont know what Dallas is at this point

[nova wadi]

So do philly reee

[balmy wolf]

that means shock vs titans will happen in the semi's

sad

[karmic grotto]

Fusion tho

They aren't bad

[pearl stratus]

Their split coaching strategy is poop, and is showing very slow results for basic problems

[karmic grotto]

But their goats is bad

[nova wadi]

C o a c h e s

[pearl stratus]

Philly needs a new team.

[karmic grotto]

Remove carpe

[pearl stratus]

You can't have a team just about one or two people popping off.

And it turns out thats all Philly had.

[night tusk]

Dallas had easy stage

[karmic grotto]

It's time for a change yes

[minor flame]

people sitll rating Philly to be top 10

I think are delusional

[pearl stratus]

You also can't let your DPS dictate your tank.

[night tusk]

Besides losing from titans xd

[pearl stratus]

That's just bad coaching

[karmic grotto]

They just don't wanna lose Carpe

But honestly, what team wants Carpe?

[nova wadi]

Washington

[pearl stratus]

So I hate saying this but I don't think Carpe is worth it if its going to gunk up your team.

[nova wadi]

B

[karmic grotto]

Lmao

[sullen berry]

Okay I'm convinced Washington had no plans to go all out

[balmy wolf]

in a dps meta, everyone wants carpe

[karmic grotto]

Carpe to wash

[pearl stratus]

So many of the newer players are ridiculous.

[sullen berry]

Until they knew they could go all out

[karmic grotto]

Wash is jebaitijg us

They will get carpe

[pearl stratus]

Like if you told me to pick (right now)

Between Diem or Carpe

It wouldn't even be a delay.

It'd be 100.4% Diem.

[karmic grotto]

Diem

[pearl stratus]

Because he plays the DPS heroes insanely well, and can play Zarya.

Direct upgrade.

[minor flame]

even if Diem kept overextending as Zarya

Diem is way more preferrable

[karmic grotto]

How the heck

[pearl stratus]

I personally think Eqo is more important to keep, if you're Philly.

[karmic grotto]

Did South Korea even won

[nova wadi]

Being good?

[karmic grotto]

So basically nyxl

They're just passive

[pearl stratus]

He's got the huge hero pool, he's a vocal leader and people seem to listen to him.

I'd build around Eqo, not Carpe.

[balmy wolf]

hope profit is in the WC this time

[karmic grotto]

Eqo, EQO

Oof

Gonna be hard

If Decay keeps popping off

[minor flame]

yikes

Dallas takes on Titans first week

[silk tiger]

that's unfortunate

[karmic grotto]

[pearl stratus]

Shock Titan in Week 2.

[karmic grotto]

Time for the upset

Let's go dallas

[nova wadi]

Titans will win again

[karmic grotto]

Oh wait

[trim shadow]

Looks loke hangzhou will make it far in the playoffs

[karmic grotto]

Dallas lost

...

Nyxl vs titans, when?

[nova wadi]

Nyxl will lose

Obviously

[upper niche]

I missed what they showed, what did they show for Seoul/Hangzhou?

[karmic grotto]

You don't know

[upper niche]

in terms of where they sit in the playoffs?

[gaunt acorn]

not until like, august

[pearl stratus]

@upper niche Shanghai is in.

[nova wadi]

I really dont see nyxl winning

[trim shadow]

Hangzhou/seoul are playing for the spot to play london

[pearl stratus]

It's just between Spark/Seoul right now.

With this game.

[gaunt acorn]

titans only play nyxl once

and it's at the end of the regular season

[karmic grotto]

^ I think this is bs

They can play Atlanta twice

Consecutive

[pearl stratus]

They're in different brackets.

[upper niche]

Yeah ... but how can they determine who SHD, HZS and SEO play, because the outcome of this match determines the finishing position for all three of them?

[karmic grotto]

But not titans earlier

[minor flame]

for gods sake

for

GODS

[karmic grotto]

I know

[minor flame]

fucking sake

do not

SUB IN

ADORA

[karmic grotto]

Still bs

[minor flame]

I SWEAR TO GOD HANGZHOU

[karmic grotto]

Oh

[nova wadi]

A d o r a

[karmic grotto]

Nvm

[nova wadi]

X d

[upper niche]

oh i see...

[pearl stratus]

Because of map records neither can be above Shanghai, iirc.

[upper niche]

SHD will be 8th regardless, it only affects who gets the 7th seed.

[pearl stratus]

Especially Spark being like -3.

Or 7th. Whatever.

[upper niche]

So the winner of this match becomes 7th seed. SHD are 8th regardless.

[nova wadi]

Krystal uwu

[pearl stratus]

Yeah

[minor flame]

you can hear the chinese

i think

could be both kr and chinese

[nova wadi]

Epic moment

[karmic grotto]

Wtf godsb

Trying to pull off a diem

[minor flame]

GodsB whiffing

RIA

RIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

HES FUCKING HUNGRY

[karmic grotto]

Makes me honestly wants to play in a team

[trim shadow]

I forgot kate is leaving washington after today

Good on her to see washington reverse sweep the reverse sweep

[upper niche]

Who?

[trim shadow]

Gm for the justice

[inland pawn]

someone stop this lady 😂

[visual glen]

Wtf is this fight

[minor flame]

no fucking way

NO FUCKING WAY

WTF

[visual glen]

[minor flame]

that fight was so fucking long dude

wtf

[visual glen]

Wasn't even exciting

Just long

[tawny sigil]

that was just some russian street brawl

[minor flame]

saw first picks

thought i was gonna get excited

ws

confusing

this pic is very old

i didnt know there was

that much of a old person following owl

[tawny sigil]

google image that see if its legit

[minor flame]

wait holy shit

they didnt sub in adora

and its actually showing that theyre winning

wow who couldve thought about that

[inland pawn]

bruh adora is good. chill lol

[minor flame]

Adora is basically just worse Krystal

[visual glen]

"fun to watch"

[tardy isle]

I’m enjoying it lmao

Watching Michelle PoV this game is crazy

[vale pond]

watch dragons yeet the shock or whoever is on top

titans?

shock has a better map diff right?

[minor flame]

shock has a flawless map diff

[molten skiff]

Are they playing for draw?

[rare sable]

shock is just great-