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tf happened to New York
nothing happened to them, atl just got better
seoul reminded ny that they could bleed.
meko was playing so badly
and now theyre bleeding a lot
this atlanta squad lost against the Charge
okay, true
Is Atlanta just NYs kryptonite or did NY just fall apart
Thats what Im wondering
who else would hey lose to
dogman huge trans save
libero keeps dying
titans, sanfran, seoul, glads?
ahh no way they do it
LETS GO DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
DAYYUUUMM
pog fucking champ

THEY DID IT AGAIN

MY BOYS
where them 4-0 litle shits at
if it bleeds we can kill it

POG
YOOOOOOOOOOO
Ooooof
OH MY GODDDDD
Losing 2 times in a row
Damn, son
LET IT REIGN LET IT REIGN LET IT REIGN
Nyxl on suicide watch
NYXL is saving strats for the playoffs 
3 layers of mouse pads what is that for?
IF DACO DOESN'T GET POTM THEN I WILL EMP LA MARK MY WORDS

I mean to make sure his mousepad doesn't move so much probably
Lmao
oh snap
Sick burns
"hows that possible" LUL cus u guys actually suck ๐
they 2-0 nyxl
gonna be shame when they got bodied by both shock and titans
LET IT REIGN LET IT REIGN
Dogman is not a feeder
you can beat the best team in the game but if you lose to every other team
Babybay is actual pog
you still arent good
hey guys atlanta won a map 5 for once
@uneven wren yes
at least im for Shock
damn
Lmao
who's in playoffs against nyxl again?
Outlaws below mayhem
i completely forgot
I want Shanghai to get in
ah okay
Huh
yeah shanghai comeback from season one please
if they donr get 4-0d by Shock they have a decent shot
RIGHT BOYS IM GOING TO GO BUY AN EMP ON THE BLACK MARKET BRB
reign still not in playoffs and wont be in playoffs next stage either
Boston rein pog
ill remember that
^
before grand finals ill remember those exact words
didnt know atl zen was just boston rein in disguise
stage 3 grand finals
im fucking calling it
gonna give vancouver a fat loss
and smack super
Nah
im that cocky right now
reign will get a chance for playoffs in stage 4
there is no stage 4 play offs
alright guys you have fun watching titans play goats for 2 hours bye lol
its a play in for post season playoffs
ill remember that to
coming for you when atlanta gets into post season
and gets to quaters or semis
Beat nyxl but I made sooo many mistakes holy crap I sucked. Definitely didn't deserve potm that honor goes to Daco imo. Ggs @NYXL #LetItReign
dogman for most improved
oh, atl already won?
come on hunters, make the playoffs this time
@tropic garnet yessir
chengdu and hangzhou will make playoffs
as much as i want shanghai to get in
the chances are getting slim
WTF, does Monte have a spray tan?
I'M BACK WHO WON?!
ATL
This song getting the arena lit
haha!
that was obvious...
was hoping for nyxl to be atlantic's champion
someone please sponsor vancouver
but that was a false hope
come on budlight
hahahah, vancouver
yeah, I wanted them to win too
spitfire as the 2nd seed is a massive lul considering the meta
they went from missing stage 1 playoffs
and to 2nd seed playoffs

lmao seoul has never won against us
honestly hoping to be able to watch from one of the povs without the command center

clean
yum yum yum
Oof
13-1?
Titans can't play dps?
This is season 1 dps
Lmao what
honestly, i feel like nyxl should've ran at least one dps on blizzard world to try and cope with phara
they should've at least expected them to dps again

why did bumper shatter
panic
ok, today is just nonsense
Stupid charge
everyones wasting ults left and right
well that seems like map 1
unlucky
its like everyone is so tired of goats that they are just trying to mix it up
!!!!
HUGE BUMPER SHATTER
one last fight
!!!!
k bumper
bumper doing bumper things
my dog is running on my bed, he is so excited
time to stall boys
how do titans organize through all that chaos. so clean in that hetic fest.
twilight sneak 100
wouldn't make a difference it they put fissure in
cant wait for titans bm at the end of the match.
gonna be insane if titans have 2 perfect stages in a row
I don't think itll happen.
if this 3-3 meta continues titans will just cruise easily through.
Oh, you mean 1 and 2 not 3 and 4.
Well, the meta will be pretty much the same for stage 3 cos there's been no major balance changes very recently.
gonna have to hopefully wait for stage 4
even then metas don't change that fast in OWL
Stage 4: Sym beam distance increased to 20m.
Muahhahahahha.
baptiste came and changed nothing. aside from bunker
it's crazy
Ez melting
sym too squishy
Batiste is sitting me off in comp cps people still isntalock him who can't play him well, and just want to play a dps they can kinda get away with being seen as filling a support slot.
sym's beam charge should be faster
(talking about the game)
Sym just needs more range. right now you're basically in range of reins hammer if you want to charge beam off his barrier.
If you increased the range, she'd be at higher charge longer because she can't only be charged when she's in reins ridiculous 7 meter melee range.
get rid of sym's TURD-rets and increase beam range and charge speed
I mean 7 meters ffs. That's twice the width of the room I'm in now. Think about that.
I wonder who will win this series /s
Yo could anyone tell me what heroes are meta rn
look at ladder.
lmao seo
Why is Doa talking about a match tomorrow right now lol
dejavu here
When is there ever a set meta on ladder
WTF hakasl
what the hell
deleted by brig
true
Why was marve1 pushed up that far
bumper 
Bumper shouldn't have been able to do that

bumper doesnt care
bumper doing bumper things
Twilight has had some big sleeps
that was an insane team effort from the titans
Bumper: pushes past marve1 to shadder
Marve1: shadders bumper's sheild
I understand marve1 works better with the team but
I feel it would be closer with fissure
It's easy to say
because it stuck. better than dva out of mech. just yell baby dva.
Would you rather say dva out if mech
it's fun to stagger baby dvas
dva meched
who yours or the enemies? baby dv is instant, enemy dva. out of mech is more of an ally command.
or (de)meched
anyways who cares.
You normally only say dva meched/demeched when it happens
I hear babydva all the time
The scariest thing is a baby dva flanking

@minor flame raise the volume
Goats isn't that boring
No
where is my "will stop watching owl after titans win map 3" gang
food
I wanna see val vs hunters
titans 0 deaths 
Atleast I woke up in time for the only match I wanted to see
Why is match of the week dragons vs shock
Playoff implucations
It's like top 500 playing against plat
Cause all the other ones suck ass
the match of the week should be seoul vs hangzhou
Shock is a top 2 team and Shanghai a playoff contender what more do you want
shock needs to 4-0 dragons in order to get top seed I think
the very last game of the week is a win or go home game
I think match of the week should have been Atlanta vs ny
It just seemed more worthy
wat
ATL v NYE doesnt really mean anything playoff wise
unlikely Shock gets unseated for division leader.
@minor flame division leader spot?
ATL is still p much out
unless they lose to shanghai somehow
They still will have a good difference
Oooh
I'm dumb
Titans will be 7-0 and shock will be 6-1
Mb
shock will be 7-0 probably
I believe in Shanghai
Your belief is wrong
lul
Nooooooo!
a chinese team is guaranteed to make stage playoffs
1 charge 2 bumper kills
yes titans won the series
already 14-0
what are they 50+ wins consecutive from contenders?
gotcha.
Contenders are seven week seasos aren't they?
BUMPER WIDOW
winning with style
naisu
poor seoul

โค
HAHAHAHAHUA
bumper has a 100% win rate on Widow

bumper with the huge pick on jehong
@little silo top widow in the world
but is it better than gestures
his 100% scoped crit hit accuracy?
lol nerf bumper
he is unnerfable
i honestly dont care about any of the matches today
i missed the first 2 and this series wasnt nearly as interesting as I wanted it to be
PogChamp GOATS is very fun to watch and very interactive! PogChamp ($5 has been transferred to your PayPal account, remember to remove this message when sharing in chat).
yes yes goats bad
They just need to remove 14 teams from the league who can't even manage to play a comp everyone complains about well.
It'd fix the issues.
When your DPS can't even play Brig, but complains about her.
4head.
"SHES SO EASY"
I have a wrinkle brain
Fails infront of 160k viewers.
Or you get the ones who can't play Zarya.
I think Bumper is a meh rein
hello

My favorite are philly fans who can't get the taste of fish out of their mouth, but then try to defend his Zarya
easily abusable as he is exploitable for his own team
Remember when sado jumped off the map and then they tried to say it was tactical
Kappa
philly got carried by carpe in season 1
Most teams got carried by a singular person or two in Season 1.
And then they're dumpster bottom teams in Season 2
He still is.
the problem with philly is their dps duo can't carry in this meta, and their comms are disorganized
Remember when you play a worse tank because of one of the worst zaryas in the league.
this makes sado look like a feeder
when mechanically, he's not terrible
but everyone in on different pages
Sado feeds but not as much as people make him out to be
Remember when taimou was in main tank
That's most of the teams right now Dray.
Season 2 League to me is boring not because of goats.
But because we really only have 6-7 teams that are worth watching
philly suffers from it pretty egregiously
The rest are arguably worse than contenders counterparts.
Season 2 League is boring cause atleast 7 teams are so disorientedly boring
With minimal coaching increases.
so Atlanta just be NYXL again apparently
caitlin pfps
Seoul is mental boomed at this point
I hope Hangzhou just really takes it in and beat em
Shanghai is the only opponent where Shock has faced so far in this stage
which has actually shown challenging promise
maybe Shock will be a little rusty
theyre scrim partners I think
dont dragons just run sombra goats?
mostly yeah
its their main to go comp
but they can either go full 3-3
or go pharah goats
or go 3 dps
gg
woot 4-0

lmao bumper
Mystery heroes with bumper
Which dps is next fam
make bumper play in the 1v1 widow
lmao Houston
eventually bumper will just let twitch decide what he does in real-time
'twitch plays OWL'
I can't believe Reign beat NYXL twice and still got eliminated
lmaooo 
also if Hunters win this they clinch right?
more then likely
twilight too good
remember was bumper was the main support 
come on you yellooooows
yeah I just realised that
but you know what they say
a racist mind is a racist kind
poorly phrased that
I just joined this chat what is happening?
i'm being racist apparently
time for some chengdu cheese
uwu
who's the best brig in the league in your opinion guys?

Hunters.
Hello?
Comms?
Pharah using barrage without emp
Yxl uses emp
No follow up
Tf
just a nonsense day
Hunters looking inconsistent again
hunters having comm problems currently
playing like ladder
Jesus Christ, this visa issues
swimming across the pacific
Jiquiren will never see play time in a whole season
he should be available for 3rd stage
A lil bit too late
I'm raging rn
got given a pot of loads of wonka candies
and there are no everlasting gobstoppers in it
smh
the front even says it has them
almost as much as the hunters are disappointing me right now
Was it a loot box
KSF WHAT THE FUCK
Because a loot box promised me heaps
holy crap Agilities shot accuracy as Pharah.
also says runts, got no runts
Forget sainsburys
chengdu alseep?
@trim shadow They have a Panda as their mascot, so...
Map 5 potential in favour of LA
time to hit that worry button
Residendentpanda
got outskilled in a dps comp you know this match is gonna be brutal

ksf got his head taken off
Mccree
YXL PogU
ameng out here doing bumper shatters
are LA seriously gonna choke here
HOLY

WTFFFFFF
FUCKYEAH.

ARE YOU FU...flips a table
they did it but all i gotta say is... you could have done better son, wtf
THEY COULDNT CLEAN UP
LAV had lost that like 30 seconds ago... and somehow turned it around.

they couldn't hang on
space didnt get hit by the Beat
and was sooo loww
all yxl had todo was press w into space
why did kariv live for so long
why was yxl at max energy and pumping it into fate
fate?
LUL
C9!
LOOOOOOL
LMAO
s

OMEGALUL
val9
HUGE C9
losangeles9
LA9
why are they playing that far ahead
backcap
So they couldnt toucj
that was aamzing
But they failed
amazing*
thats a disgusting c9
yeah that was dirty
that was like the original c9
no
No it wasnt rusha
backcap
My god even when they're doing well Valiant look bad
Its a backcao yes
โฟ
no
No it doesnt
yvetal was going for 2
wtf happened to taht bomb
backcapping was a thing longer than c9
i think he was boosting trying to get away, panicked, and bombed
so it launched away
It literally announces when it does
i say it is since they forgot the payload
after winning a fight
just in a different way than a traditional c9
But this is clearly a backcap
ksf lost his head but not really?
yeah but something can be a backcap and a c9
the valiant lost the fight but forgot to stop the payload
wait no
won the fight but forgot
if i wanted to be really stingy on what a c9 is i would say its a control only thing
Is it won when they didnt kill lucio B)
YXL is going crazy holy shit
KSF twice
wtf that shot
food
rip dragonblade
wait you cant eat the dragonstrike?
you can
yes
ive never seen that
yes
the arrow part
but you only have like half a second
you have to be really up in hanzos face then
thats really rare
FULL FUCKING HELD
LETS GO
alright Map 5 time to start sweating
there was even a time where you could use the arrow of dragonstrike to hit people through walls i believe
map 5
wait does this mean hunters are out of playoffs?
it was mega broken
no hunters have to win this game
they didn't get the 3-1 or 4-0
i believe shanghai is +4 in map diff
and if chengdu wins they will be at +3
so if it's 3-2 loss for shanghai then shanghai is in due to match head-to-head
any other shanghai loss and they're out
but shanghai is against sf
so chances of shanghai winning 2 maps are slim
oh shanghai can also lose 2-1 and be in
lav better win for shanghai's sake
shd could end at 4-3 +3 and keep a spot
even if hunters ends at the same since shd beat hunters 3-1
Elsa uwu
elsa pulling dva kills out of his ass
These fights make me sweat
c9
Where
how did ameng not touch
ameng did everything he could to not touch the point with the grapple there
ameng is legit throwing
Ameng 
bruh ameng
hunters folding
mah boy the shanghai dragons!
PepeHands
he just suicided three times in a row in the exact same way
yikes, it's not even 12pm and already at the end of the last match... but Contenders Aus finals starts at 12:30pm so perfect timing.
it's over rip
shanghai wins!
man
oof
hello shanghai playoffs
WOOHOO
man Chengdu really
rip chengdu playoff dreams
needs to stop playing goats
NOT 0-7
chengdu should never have played a goats mirror on 2nd map busan
Chengdu needs to accept they cant face with goats
unlike the winston oathlaw
nope, they handed the baton to the outlaws
that point on busan is pharah favored right
yeah
I wanna see Spark knock Seoul out of the playoffs.
Meka base is usually a widow map
but they wanna stuck into goats
yang couldve just clicked heads and got the win
Indeed
Meka base favors widow
Chengdu has all the potential
Or Washington knock Boston out haha
if they dont switch to mirror goats
boston has been out
boston is eliminated already
huh?
valiant are 3-11 if they make the playin for post season i will kill myself
ah, cos HZS and SEO play each other.
and they cant beat SHDs map record.
ouch, map record really has done boston in.
making Chengdu do 3-3 is just gonna cost themm
and they still havent learned that yet
what can happen that knocks shanghai off?
nothing
dragons are in
they aren't clinched
dragons has 8th spot
So if Seoul wins and Shanghai loses even 2-1 each (or 3-2), the map record would be even...
7th*
seoul and spark is fighting for 7th
hangzhou will win 3-1 is my predict
and even then thats not enough to knock shanghai out
chengdu had to win to unseat shanghai
idk spark is pretty 50/50
shanghai could get 0-4 and end up with 0 map dif
I dont think SHD can be knocked out?
dragons have 8th
7th*
8th
just trying to run the numbers - even if SHD loses 0-4, HZS and SEO play each other.
so if shanghai lose 4-0 to san fran
and hangzhou beats seoul 4-0
hangzhou is -3
then shanghai is in
And because HZS and SEO play each other it'll either be HZS 5-2 -2, -1, 0 or +1, or SEO 4-3 between +3 and +7.
has seoul and shanghai played each other yet
nurp
So yeah, I think SHD are in.
shd would need to keep 2 maps from shock for a tie at 7th
i still have shanghai for upset over san fran
then a 3-1 or 2-0 hz win will be a tiebreak game for the 8th seed between seoul and shanghai
Let's look at worst case: SHD loses 0-4, they will be 4-3+0
shanghai taking a map off san fran should be enough to clinch
if only shanghai 4-0ed the justice
I don't think there's a scenario SHD can't get in.
there is 0 chance for a battle for 8th spot
poor hunters
doesnt matter what happens
they beat spitfire just to lose to valiant
hangzhou winning Clinches shanghai and themselves
seoul winning gets them and shanghai in
at most shanghai will drop to 8th seed
thats if seoul wins
Because even if SHD were 4-3+0, HZS winning would put HZS at 5-2 - so they would be in... so... Seoul need to only lose by one map AND SHD need to lose 4-0.
That's the only way
if hangzhou wins they remain 7th seed
if seoul loses they are 3-4
If SHD only lose 3-1, that's not enough for SEO. ANd if SEO lose 3-1, SEO are out. If SEO WIN, in any situation, then HZS get knocked out (and SHD make it).
SHD in no matter what
looking at it, they probably just messed up
props to shanghai
cause they are clinched
their graphic has been wrong before
you can like goto to the owl website
shanghai lose 0-4 and hangzhou wins 4-0 shanghai still in and that's the worse case situation
chengdu loosing eliminated them both
and i think valiant and boston played?
the scenario for boston was
they needed hangzhou and seoul to lose
and chengdu
Yeah. There's no scenario because of the h2h matchups that SHD can get knocekd out - because of that HZS vs SEO game.
boston needed all the chinese teams to lose
when shd won, boston was out
the fact chengdu lost 3-2 means boston lost any chance of getting in
boston was out before that
they had like a 10% chance of sneaking in
shanghai winning a map knocked out boston
i want that game to be match of the week
battle for the 8th seed essentially
it's win or go home
thats game of the week
shd has the 8th seed
also seoul not getting a map off vancouver put them in this situation
says on the owl website shanghai is currently 7th seed if hangzhou wins hangzhou is 8th if seoul wins seoul is 7th
i dont use the garbage OWL webstie
Outlaws finish Stage 2 with only 2 map wins using primarily GOATS comps, both of which were against the Charge.
They won 1 map vs Titans playing DPS and 1 vs Dallas playing Junkrat/Orisa/Widow.
Their efforts should never have been playing GOATS instead of finding their s...

pulling a chengdu essentially
flame was still defending goats
hey were good at this not that
get the fuck off goats wtf
if shd loses 0-4 to shock they will have a 0 map differential
im still pulling for the shanghai upset so they remain 7th seed
this is a death sentence anyway
who gets san fran again or who gets london
i would assume shanghai wants london
not that shd or spark will make it far in playoffs anyway
nah
not in this meta
if it was dps
shanghai and hangzhou would be nutty
no sit down adorra
they are still a tier below fuel, nyxl, glad, and london, and two tiers below shock and titans
SHD is pretty on par with Fuel Glad London
even current NYXL
Spark wont get that far but they make a nice opponent
atleast better than
Philly or Boston
also F dallas got cucked
will give you fuel and better than philly and boston
this stage playoffs will actually be competitive compared to last stage
and even their early matches with glads and nyxl were close
London has improved a lot, though
ehhh
F dallas trade aml and unkoe away
inb4 warning 2
but they are playing better so ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
NYXL is... how does one describe NYXL
bren vs bran, show me the difference
my expectations for SHD dropped during the SHD vs Justice match
tbf Justice has actual decent improvement
shit got too weird
their support has a substantial improvement
so is their coherency
but still falls due to
miscomms with Corey and Ado
that being said
SHD fell off in the second half
I think they just messed around
got too cocky
played
really fucking shitty comps
washington is just that team that needs to avoid the main meta
which is the bottom half of the leauge
theyre actually tanking by opting into goats
unless its like vancouver or san fran
then alright your fucked eitherway
or any team that can switch off of goats and still do well
hence sorta chengdu definetly shanghai definetly atlanta
defiant 3-1
was that the last match?
oh boy you dont want to miss QnA.... cause they're not generic af
4 match for today, i think that's enough
@opal spruce yes
the all access pass had me confused, they have toronto and paris loaded up for the pov's
guess thats the first match tomorrow
you'Re on the east coast?
yes
it adapts to your time so it shows 5 match in 1 day if you live east
yea contenders does that and really threw me off
i live central tho
well this doesnt apply to weekend anyway
ny fans are salty about loosing to atlanta twice lmao
hahahaha
meanwhile in australia csgo fans chant "fuck you overwatch, fuck you" as contenders games are played next door https://t.co/YZLcCXL1Ly
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london won the divison because nyxl dropped 2 maps and lost to atlanta
so london has the 2nd seed
I thought division only applied for final playoffs
it applies for all playoffs
ah
London didn't know goats in stage one
thats cause vancouver and nyxl dominated
The seeds were based on who was where and then a coin toss/game to decide tied seed
London finally got a hang of goats
and no one couldve won the division
the coin toss was because of map differential being the same
Yeah so was the game
also, NYXL losing to atlanta twice, damn
only atlanta could win to NYXL twice yet lose to both LAV and Guangzhou
like, that's the very definition of inconsistant
There were two ties which were decided two different ways
The other seeds were just based on ranking
How did division matter?
atlanta is looking progressively better
are they? or are they just wildly inconsistent.
Why not both
see one of my previous comments
the ties were just because the season just got started
and anyone can beat anyone in goats if they work together
Well than Spark should really try for 8th seed
7th*
Shit they need to 4-0 Seoul for that to happen
If seoul wins spark are out and seoul takes 8
So just to be clear. Boston can't make playoffs right? Even if they go 4-0 against Washington.
Nope