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uneven wren
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just one more point

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do it atlanta

rare sable
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if atl wins oh my God

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im like thirty seconds behind tho

little silo
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tf happened to New York

rare sable
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nothing happened to them, atl just got better

cursive talon
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seoul reminded ny that they could bleed.

spring heath
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meko was playing so badly

little silo
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and now theyre bleeding a lot

rare sable
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true

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ny lost point rip rip

little silo
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this atlanta squad lost against the Charge

rare sable
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okay, true

little silo
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Is Atlanta just NYs kryptonite or did NY just fall apart

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Thats what Im wondering

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who else would hey lose to

uneven wren
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dogman huge trans save

balmy flower
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libero keeps dying

cursive talon
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titans, sanfran, seoul, glads?

rare sable
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dogman save oh my god

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OH MY GOD

cursive talon
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ahh no way they do it

inland pawn
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LETS GO DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

blazing parrot
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LETS GO DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

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tawny sigil
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DAYYUUUMM

serene tendon
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pog fucking champ

azure harbor
trim shadow
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reeeeeee

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MY BOYS DID IT

uneven wren
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THEY DID IT AGAIN

rare sable
blazing parrot
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MY BOYS

trim shadow
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where them 4-0 litle shits at

cursive talon
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if it bleeds we can kill it

karmic grotto
rare sable
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POG

balmy wolf
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YOOOOOOOOOOO

karmic grotto
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Ooooof

rare sable
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OH MY GODDDDD

karmic grotto
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Losing 2 times in a row

median coyote
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Damn, son

trim shadow
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LET IT REIGN LET IT REIGN LET IT REIGN

karmic grotto
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Nyxl on suicide watch

rare sable
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HOLY HELL

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that was so close but oh my god

inland pawn
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NYXL is saving strats for the playoffs PogChimp

cursive talon
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3 layers of mouse pads what is that for?

blazing parrot
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IF DACO DOESN'T GET POTM THEN I WILL EMP LA MARK MY WORDS

south brook
trim shadow
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new york will 4-0 they will be prepared this time hurr durr

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truth babybay

rare sable
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I mean to make sure his mousepad doesn't move so much probably

karmic grotto
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Lmao

cursive talon
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oh snap

karmic grotto
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Hahahahahaha

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Big words

tawny sigil
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Sick burns

inland pawn
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"hows that possible" LUL cus u guys actually suck ๐Ÿ˜‚

karmic grotto
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Losing against valiant

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Ooooof

rare sable
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they 2-0 nyxl

balmy wolf
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gonna be shame when they got bodied by both shock and titans

trim shadow
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LET IT REIGN LET IT REIGN

rare sable
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but didn't make playoffs

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๐Ÿค”

karmic grotto
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Dogman is not a feeder

inland pawn
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you can beat the best team in the game but if you lose to every other team

nova wadi
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Babybay is actual pog

inland pawn
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you still arent good

uneven wren
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hey guys atlanta won a map 5 for once

trim shadow
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@uneven wren yes

supple prism
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at least im for Shock

rare sable
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damn

karmic grotto
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Lmao

rare sable
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who's in playoffs against nyxl again?

karmic grotto
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Outlaws below mayhem

trim shadow
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seoul fell!

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chengdu is gonna get in

rare sable
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i completely forgot

little silo
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I want Shanghai to get in

rare sable
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ah okay

karmic grotto
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Huh

rare sable
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yeah shanghai comeback from season one please

little silo
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if they donr get 4-0d by Shock they have a decent shot

blazing parrot
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RIGHT BOYS IM GOING TO GO BUY AN EMP ON THE BLACK MARKET BRB

supple prism
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reign still not in playoffs and wont be in playoffs next stage either

nova wadi
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Boston rein pog

trim shadow
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ill remember that

karmic grotto
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^

trim shadow
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before grand finals ill remember those exact words

karmic grotto
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Grand finals?

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WaitWhat โ™ฟ

blazing parrot
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didnt know atl zen was just boston rein in disguise

trim shadow
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stage 3 grand finals

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im fucking calling it

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gonna give vancouver a fat loss

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and smack super

little silo
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Nah

trim shadow
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im that cocky right now

supple prism
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reign will get a chance for playoffs in stage 4

trim shadow
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there is no stage 4 play offs

blazing parrot
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alright guys you have fun watching titans play goats for 2 hours bye lol

trim shadow
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its a play in for post season playoffs

supple prism
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and probably will barely make season playoffs

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oh

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oh right

trim shadow
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ill remember that to

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coming for you when atlanta gets into post season

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and gets to quaters or semis

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dogman for most improved

tropic garnet
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oh, atl already won?

balmy wolf
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come on hunters, make the playoffs this time

trim shadow
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@tropic garnet yessir

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chengdu and hangzhou will make playoffs

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as much as i want shanghai to get in

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the chances are getting slim

upper niche
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WTF, does Monte have a spray tan?

balmy wolf
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I'M BACK WHO WON?!

tropic garnet
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ATL

tight wagon
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This song getting the arena lit

trim shadow
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good walk out song

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going to get destroyed

tight wagon
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haha!

balmy wolf
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that was obvious...

tropic garnet
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was hoping for nyxl to be atlantic's champion

trim shadow
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someone please sponsor vancouver

tropic garnet
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but that was a false hope

trim shadow
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come on budlight

tropic garnet
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hahahah, vancouver

balmy wolf
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yeah, I wanted them to win too

trim shadow
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spitfire as the 2nd seed is a massive lul considering the meta

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they went from missing stage 1 playoffs

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and to 2nd seed playoffs

balmy wolf
spring heath
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lmao seoul has never won against us

trim shadow
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twiiight is from the church of jjonak?

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he just cursed vancouver

spring heath
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ily twilight~

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im so excited

tropic garnet
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honestly hoping to be able to watch from one of the povs without the command center

spring heath
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holy widow

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omg i love this

azure harbor
spring heath
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BYE JJANU

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holy

tight wagon
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clean

spring heath
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yum yum yum

karmic grotto
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Oof

azure harbor
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GWseremePeepoThink 13-1?

karmic grotto
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Titans can't play dps?

balmy wolf
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they can

karmic grotto
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This is season 1 dps

balmy wolf
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but their the best at 3-3

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so forcing it makes it easier

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they are gonna lose

karmic grotto
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Lmao what

tropic garnet
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honestly, i feel like nyxl should've ran at least one dps on blizzard world to try and cope with phara

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they should've at least expected them to dps again

azure harbor
inland pawn
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why did bumper shatter

azure harbor
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panic

balmy wolf
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Bumper????

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Bumper legit threw lol

karmic grotto
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Stupid

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Marve1

supple prism
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ok, today is just nonsense

karmic grotto
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Stupid charge

supple prism
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everyones wasting ults left and right

spring heath
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well that seems like map 1

inland pawn
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unlucky

supple prism
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its like everyone is so tired of goats that they are just trying to mix it up

spring heath
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!!!!

uneven wren
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HUGE BUMPER SHATTER

balmy wolf
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one last fight

spring heath
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!!!!

balmy wolf
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k bumper

spring heath
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i spoke too soon! ! !

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big bumper

uneven wren
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bumper doing bumper things

balmy wolf
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my dog is running on my bed, he is so excited

cursive talon
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time to stall boys

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how do titans organize through all that chaos. so clean in that hetic fest.

karmic grotto
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Fissure, when

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Need more aggro tank

uneven wren
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twilight sneak 100

balmy wolf
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wouldn't make a difference it they put fissure in

cursive talon
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cant wait for titans bm at the end of the match.

uneven wren
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marve1 is playing much more aggressively now

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though it cost him a few times

balmy wolf
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gonna be insane if titans have 2 perfect stages in a row

upper niche
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I don't think itll happen.

cursive talon
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if this 3-3 meta continues titans will just cruise easily through.

upper niche
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Oh, you mean 1 and 2 not 3 and 4.

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Well, the meta will be pretty much the same for stage 3 cos there's been no major balance changes very recently.

balmy wolf
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gonna have to hopefully wait for stage 4

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even then metas don't change that fast in OWL

karmic grotto
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Until

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New hero appears

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Nothing yet about echo

upper niche
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Stage 4: Sym beam distance increased to 20m.

Muahhahahahha.

karmic grotto
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But

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Instead of dva

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Why not use symmetra

cursive talon
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baptiste came and changed nothing. aside from bunker

karmic grotto
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To break shield

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Symmetra auto charges to 195 dps

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Zarya 195

balmy wolf
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it's crazy

karmic grotto
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Ez melting

balmy wolf
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sym too squishy

upper niche
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Batiste is sitting me off in comp cps people still isntalock him who can't play him well, and just want to play a dps they can kinda get away with being seen as filling a support slot.

inland pawn
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sym's beam charge should be faster

balmy wolf
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(talking about the game)

upper niche
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Sym just needs more range. right now you're basically in range of reins hammer if you want to charge beam off his barrier.

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If you increased the range, she'd be at higher charge longer because she can't only be charged when she's in reins ridiculous 7 meter melee range.

inland pawn
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get rid of sym's TURD-rets and increase beam range and charge speed

upper niche
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I mean 7 meters ffs. That's twice the width of the room I'm in now. Think about that.

visual glen
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I wonder who will win this series /s

balmy wolf
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probs titans

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as evident in the massive time bank they just got

upper niche
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I'm going for a Valiant to beat Chengdu.

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Lol wtf autocorrect?

valid herald
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Yo could anyone tell me what heroes are meta rn

cursive talon
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look at ladder.

tight wagon
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Always torb

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Torb transcends all metas

spring heath
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lmao seo

visual glen
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Why is Doa talking about a match tomorrow right now lol

inland pawn
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the meta is torb, sym, orisa, baptiste, mercy and bastion

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dont @ me

cursive talon
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dejavu here

slender lance
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When is there ever a set meta on ladder

balmy wolf
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WTF hakasl

slender lance
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Haksal is the best brig

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Actually insane

balmy wolf
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what the hell

wintry kraken
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deleted by brig

slender lance
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You can't delete brig

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Brig deletes you

balmy wolf
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true

cursive talon
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lol wut

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tht dva stagger come on man. heal

slender lance
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Why was marve1 pushed up that far

balmy wolf
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bumper PharahCool

slender lance
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Bumper shouldn't have been able to do that

visual glen
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NA shatter

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Shield was literally up

azure harbor
balmy wolf
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bumper doesnt care

uneven wren
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bumper doing bumper things

slender lance
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Twilight has had some big sleeps

uneven wren
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that was an insane team effort from the titans

slender lance
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Bumper: pushes past marve1 to shadder
Marve1: shadders bumper's sheild

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I understand marve1 works better with the team but

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I feel it would be closer with fissure

slender lance
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I disagree

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Let's keep bullying baby dva

balmy wolf
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why doeas everyone call her that?

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it's kind of gross

slender lance
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It's easy to say

cursive talon
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because it stuck. better than dva out of mech. just yell baby dva.

slender lance
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Would you rather say dva out if mech

balmy wolf
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maybe mech down

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less syllables

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faster to say

uneven wren
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it's fun to stagger baby dvas

spring heath
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dva meched

cursive talon
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who yours or the enemies? baby dv is instant, enemy dva. out of mech is more of an ally command.

spring heath
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or (de)meched

cursive talon
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anyways who cares.

slender lance
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You normally only say dva meched/demeched when it happens

spring heath
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yeah

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it should be apparent usually

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once said

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then i say baby dva for focus

balmy wolf
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I hear babydva all the time

slender lance
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The scariest thing is a baby dva flanking

balmy wolf
minor flame
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I fell asleep

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Again

cursive talon
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@minor flame raise the volume

slender lance
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Goats isn't that boring

minor flame
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No like

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I fell asleep

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Before the match

slender lance
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Ah

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Were you thinking of goats

minor flame
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No

slender lance
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Understandable

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You missed Houston going 0-7

minor flame
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I see that

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Im not sure what to say about ATL v NYE

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Cause I havent seen it

cursive talon
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where is my "will stop watching owl after titans win map 3" gang

azure harbor
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DVaSmug food

slender lance
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I wanna see val vs hunters

uneven wren
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titans 0 deaths ZaryaLUL

minor flame
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Atleast I woke up in time for the only match I wanted to see

slender lance
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Why is match of the week dragons vs shock

little silo
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Playoff implucations

balmy wolf
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It's like top 500 playing against plat

minor flame
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Cause all the other ones suck ass

uneven wren
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the match of the week should be seoul vs hangzhou

little silo
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Shock is a top 2 team and Shanghai a playoff contender what more do you want

balmy wolf
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shock needs to 4-0 dragons in order to get top seed I think

uneven wren
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the very last game of the week is a win or go home game

slender lance
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I think match of the week should have been Atlanta vs ny

little silo
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Shock just need a win

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their map differential is insane

slender lance
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It just seemed more worthy

visual glen
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wat

lament sleet
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Seould out

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๐Ÿค”

minor flame
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ATL v NYE doesnt really mean anything playoff wise

cursive talon
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unlikely Shock gets unseated for division leader.

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@minor flame division leader spot?

slender lance
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Shock is number one seed no matter what right now

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For this stage

minor flame
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ATL is still p much out

uneven wren
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unless they lose to shanghai somehow

slender lance
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They still will have a good difference

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Oooh

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I'm dumb

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Titans will be 7-0 and shock will be 6-1

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Mb

little silo
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shock will be 7-0 probably

balmy wolf
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I believe in Shanghai

slender lance
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Your belief is wrong

spring heath
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lul

balmy wolf
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Nooooooo!

little silo
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a chinese team is guaranteed to make stage playoffs

uneven wren
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1 charge 2 bumper kills

balmy wolf
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best charger ever

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Bumper

uneven wren
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yes titans won the series

cursive talon
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titans won. just one tick

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gg

uneven wren
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already 14-0

cursive talon
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what are they 50+ wins consecutive from contenders?

balmy wolf
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no

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only 26 i think

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contenders season don't last that long

cursive talon
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gotcha.

upper niche
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Contenders are seven week seasos aren't they?

uneven wren
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BUMPER WIDOW

balmy wolf
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7 matches for each team in contenders

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bumper charge!

cursive talon
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winning with style

spring heath
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naisu

little silo
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poor seoul

azure harbor
spring heath
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VancouverTitans โค

karmic grotto
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HAHAHAHAHUA

little silo
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bumper has a 100% win rate on Widow

azure harbor
karmic grotto
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Spitfire vs titans

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When

uneven wren
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bumper with the huge pick on jehong

cursive talon
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@little silo top widow in the world

little silo
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but is it better than gestures

supple prism
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his 100% scoped crit hit accuracy?

upper niche
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lol nerf bumper

balmy wolf
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he is unnerfable

pearl stratus
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Move him off Titans.

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He'd basically just be a Janus at that point ๐Ÿ˜›

trim shadow
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bumper on widow?

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nani the fuck

minor flame
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Im too tired to care about the 3 past matches

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Ill just tune in for the next one

little silo
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i honestly dont care about any of the matches today

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i missed the first 2 and this series wasnt nearly as interesting as I wanted it to be

mint slate
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PogChamp GOATS is very fun to watch and very interactive! PogChamp ($5 has been transferred to your PayPal account, remember to remove this message when sharing in chat).

distant badger
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yes yes goats bad

pearl stratus
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They just need to remove 14 teams from the league who can't even manage to play a comp everyone complains about well.

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It'd fix the issues.

minor flame
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haha yes goats bad

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me big brain

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hey guy

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brig bad

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me dps haha

slender lance
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Hehe

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Goats is baf

pearl stratus
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When your DPS can't even play Brig, but complains about her.

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4head.

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"SHES SO EASY"

slender lance
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I have a wrinkle brain

pearl stratus
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Fails infront of 160k viewers.

minor flame
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zacharee

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bad flex

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bad brig

slender lance
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Hunters are the best team

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Hehe

pearl stratus
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Or you get the ones who can't play Zarya.

slender lance
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Ameng

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Best rein

minor flame
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I think Bumper is a meh rein

sleek coral
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hello

gaunt acorn
pearl stratus
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My favorite are philly fans who can't get the taste of fish out of their mouth, but then try to defend his Zarya

minor flame
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easily abusable as he is exploitable for his own team

slender lance
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Remember when sado jumped off the map and then they tried to say it was tactical

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Kappa

pearl stratus
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Remember when they said Philly was a good team?

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Bigger Kappa.

balmy wolf
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philly got carried by carpe in season 1

pearl stratus
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Most teams got carried by a singular person or two in Season 1.

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And then they're dumpster bottom teams in Season 2

slender lance
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Remember when fragi was considered one of the best reins in eu

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Giga kap

pearl stratus
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He still is.

gaunt acorn
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the problem with philly is their dps duo can't carry in this meta, and their comms are disorganized

pearl stratus
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Remember when you play a worse tank because of one of the worst zaryas in the league.

gaunt acorn
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this makes sado look like a feeder

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when mechanically, he's not terrible

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but everyone in on different pages

minor flame
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Sado feeds but not as much as people make him out to be

slender lance
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Remember when taimou was in main tank

pearl stratus
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That's most of the teams right now Dray.

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Season 2 League to me is boring not because of goats.

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But because we really only have 6-7 teams that are worth watching

gaunt acorn
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philly suffers from it pretty egregiously

pearl stratus
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The rest are arguably worse than contenders counterparts.

minor flame
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Season 2 League is boring cause atleast 7 teams are so disorientedly boring

pearl stratus
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With minimal coaching increases.

analog lark
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so Atlanta just be NYXL again apparently

minor flame
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caitlin pfps

trim shadow
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thats probably why vancovuer is on top

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they can work as a team versus other teams

minor flame
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Seoul is mental boomed at this point

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I hope Hangzhou just really takes it in and beat em

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Shanghai is the only opponent where Shock has faced so far in this stage

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which has actually shown challenging promise

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maybe Shock will be a little rusty

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theyre scrim partners I think

balmy wolf
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dont dragons just run sombra goats?

minor flame
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mostly yeah

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its their main to go comp

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but they can either go full 3-3

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or go pharah goats

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or go 3 dps

balmy wolf
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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depends on the map

spring ermine
gaunt acorn
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gg

uneven wren
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woot 4-0

gaunt acorn
trim shadow
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inb4 hangzhou 3-1 seoul

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knock seoul and shanghai out of playoffs

spring heath
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lmao bumper

trim shadow
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inb4 atlanta upsets vancouver

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play doomfist you savage animal

nova wadi
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Mystery heroes with bumper

uneven wren
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Which dps is next fam

balmy wolf
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make bumper play in the 1v1 widow

drowsy fulcrum
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lmao Houston

spring heath
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july of last year

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holy

gaunt acorn
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eventually bumper will just let twitch decide what he does in real-time

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'twitch plays OWL'

drowsy fulcrum
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I can't believe Reign beat NYXL twice and still got eliminated

spring heath
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lmaooo VancouverTitans

drowsy fulcrum
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also if Hunters win this they clinch right?

trim shadow
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more then likely

spring heath
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twilight too good

balmy wolf
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remember was bumper was the main support kekk

drowsy fulcrum
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come on you yellooooows

nova wadi
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U know

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Inb4 people think youre racist

drowsy fulcrum
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yeah I just realised that

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but you know what they say

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a racist mind is a racist kind

distant badger
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poorly phrased that

south geyser
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I just joined this chat what is happening?

drowsy fulcrum
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i'm being racist apparently

trim shadow
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time for some chengdu cheese

nova wadi
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uwu

scenic depot
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who's the best brig in the league in your opinion guys?

trim shadow
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bro why is kyo so fucking tall

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kyo is a fucking light pole

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La logo change?

minor flame
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Imagine atls only 3 wins

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And 2 are fr nyxl

karmic grotto
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Hunters.

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Hello?

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Comms?

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Pharah using barrage without emp

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Yxl uses emp

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No follow up

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Tf

supple prism
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just a nonsense day

karmic grotto
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Today is a weird day

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Very odd

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Where is Hunters main tank?

minor flame
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Hunters looking inconsistent again

uneven wren
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hunters having comm problems currently

minor flame
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playing like ladder

karmic grotto
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Jesus Christ, this visa issues

uneven wren
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swimming across the pacific

karmic grotto
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Jiquiren will never see play time in a whole season

uneven wren
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he should be available for 3rd stage

karmic grotto
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A lil bit too late

drowsy fulcrum
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I'm raging rn

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got given a pot of loads of wonka candies

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and there are no everlasting gobstoppers in it

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smh

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the front even says it has them

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almost as much as the hunters are disappointing me right now

sullen berry
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Was it a loot box

drowsy fulcrum
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KSF WHAT THE FUCK

sullen berry
#

Because a loot box promised me heaps

drowsy fulcrum
#

no

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just like

#

a pot

#

from sainsbury's lmao

upper niche
#

holy crap Agilities shot accuracy as Pharah.

drowsy fulcrum
#

also says runts, got no runts

sullen berry
#

Forget sainsburys

trim shadow
#

chengdu alseep?

uneven wren
#

la beats chengdu on dps

#

oh boy

upper niche
#

@trim shadow They have a Panda as their mascot, so...

sullen berry
#

Map 5 potential in favour of LA

trim shadow
#

time to hit that worry button

sullen berry
#

Residendentpanda

trim shadow
#

got outskilled in a dps comp you know this match is gonna be brutal

sullen berry
minor flame
#

ah yes

#

jinmu feeding

#

a chengdu classic

#

ah yes

#

KSF

#

peeking

trim shadow
#

ksf got his head taken off

azure harbor
#

PogChimp Mccree

uneven wren
#

alright 1-1

#

some balance is back

inland pawn
#

Elsa Sym the secret weapon

#

cant believe they brought it out this early

minor flame
#

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

#

HAHAHAHAH

#

THIS IS AMAZING

pearl stratus
#

Have you never seen this Beani?

#

This is there Point A attack, always]

minor flame
#

never seen it work immediately

#

WTF

pearl stratus
#

Symmetra kills Pharah.

#

Welcome to 2019.

inland pawn
#

YXL PogU

trim shadow
#

ameng out here doing bumper shatters

balmy wolf
#

are LA seriously gonna choke here

trim shadow
#

HOLY

minor flame
#

HOLY SHIT

#

SHKOTSJHIESNGERIG

#

CHERNGDU

#

CHENGDU

azure harbor
trim shadow
#

CHENGDU

#

CHENGDU NO

inland pawn
#

WTFFFFFF

minor flame
#

FJAWIOGNWAIOGN

#

FUCKWW

upper niche
#

FUCKYEAH.

azure harbor
trim shadow
#

ARE YOU FU...flips a table

tawny sigil
#

they did it but all i gotta say is... you could have done better son, wtf

trim shadow
#

THEY COULDNT CLEAN UP

upper niche
#

LAV had lost that like 30 seconds ago... and somehow turned it around.

trim shadow
uneven wren
#

they couldn't hang on

trim shadow
#

space didnt get hit by the Beat

#

and was sooo loww

#

all yxl had todo was press w into space

#

why did kariv live for so long

#

why was yxl at max energy and pumping it into fate

minor flame
#

KSF had too much charge

#

basically held off everyone

trim shadow
#

i wouldnt be suprised if that mental boomed chengdu

#

this is chengdu's map

serene tendon
#

kariv why

#

nvm i forgot they were defending lol

trim shadow
#

fate?

vale pond
#

Fuck

#

I got to see endgame but I missed the second coming of atlanta

#

Fuck

inland pawn
#

LUL

trim shadow
#

C9!

nova wadi
#

LOOOOOOL

trim shadow
#

LMAO

azure harbor
#

sPogChimp PogChimp

serene tendon
#

OMEGALUL

tawny sigil
#

val9

uneven wren
#

HUGE C9

trim shadow
#

losangeles9

nova wadi
#

LA9

balmy wolf
#

why are they playing that far ahead

supple prism
#

backcap

nova wadi
#

So they couldnt toucj

raven grotto
#

that was aamzing

nova wadi
#

But they failed

raven grotto
#

amazing*

trim shadow
#

thats a disgusting c9

raven grotto
#

yeah that was dirty

trim shadow
#

that was like the original c9

supple prism
#

no

nova wadi
#

No it wasnt rusha

supple prism
#

backcap

distant badger
#

My god even when they're doing well Valiant look bad

nova wadi
#

Its a backcao yes

trim shadow
#

backcap c9 backcap c9 backcapc9

#

works both ways

nova wadi
#

โ™ฟ

supple prism
#

no

nova wadi
#

No it doesnt

trim shadow
#

yvetal was going for 2

tawny sigil
#

wtf happened to taht bomb

trim shadow
#

dh was that bomb going elsa

#

he was trying to blow up the crowd

supple prism
#

backcapping was a thing longer than c9

raven grotto
#

i think he was boosting trying to get away, panicked, and bombed

#

so it launched away

nova wadi
#

They didnt even realise

#

It went into OT

raven grotto
#

yeah

#

the chat rn is arguing if it's a c9

nova wadi
#

It literally announces when it does

raven grotto
#

i say it is since they forgot the payload

#

after winning a fight

#

just in a different way than a traditional c9

nova wadi
#

But this is clearly a backcap

trim shadow
#

ksf lost his head but not really?

raven grotto
#

yeah but something can be a backcap and a c9

#

the valiant lost the fight but forgot to stop the payload

#

wait no

#

won the fight but forgot

supple prism
#

if i wanted to be really stingy on what a c9 is i would say its a control only thing

nova wadi
#

Is it won when they didnt kill lucio B)

inland pawn
#

YXL is going crazy holy shit

trim shadow
#

yxl is just chineese birdring

#

dont @ me

azure harbor
#

ZaryaLUL KSF twice

inland pawn
#

wtf that shot

azure harbor
#

DVaSmug food

raven grotto
#

rip dragonblade

trim shadow
#

wait you cant eat the dragonstrike?

raven grotto
#

you can

supple prism
#

yes

trim shadow
#

ive never seen that

raven grotto
#

it shoots an arrow that becomes the dragonstrike

#

you can eat the arrow

uneven wren
#

yes

supple prism
#

the arrow part

raven grotto
#

but you only have like half a second

trim shadow
#

you have to be really up in hanzos face then

raven grotto
#

and you have to be really close yeah

#

basically right against him

trim shadow
#

thats really rare

minor flame
#

FULL FUCKING HELD

inland pawn
#

LETS GO

trim shadow
#

alright Map 5 time to start sweating

supple prism
#

there was even a time where you could use the arrow of dragonstrike to hit people through walls i believe

azure harbor
#

DVaSmug map 5

raven grotto
#

yeah there was

#

i remember that

balmy wolf
#

wait does this mean hunters are out of playoffs?

raven grotto
#

it was mega broken

uneven wren
#

no hunters have to win this game

balmy wolf
#

they didn't get the 3-1 or 4-0

uneven wren
#

3-2 and shanghai loss will put them in playoffs

#

if the shanghai loss is big enough

minor flame
#

hunters win if shanghai gets like

#

4-0ed

uneven wren
#

i believe shanghai is +4 in map diff

#

and if chengdu wins they will be at +3

#

so if it's 3-2 loss for shanghai then shanghai is in due to match head-to-head

#

any other shanghai loss and they're out

#

but shanghai is against sf

#

so chances of shanghai winning 2 maps are slim

#

oh shanghai can also lose 2-1 and be in

tawny sigil
#

lav better win for shanghai's sake

supple prism
#

shd could end at 4-3 +3 and keep a spot

#

even if hunters ends at the same since shd beat hunters 3-1

inland pawn
#

ELSA

nova wadi
#

Elsa uwu

trim shadow
#

elsa pulling dva kills out of his ass

nova wadi
#

These fights make me sweat

raven grotto
#

rip

#

they didn't touch

azure harbor
#

ZaryaLUL c9

nova wadi
#

Where

uneven wren
#

how did ameng not touch

tawny sigil
#

ameng did everything he could to not touch the point with the grapple there

raven grotto
#

ameng is legit throwing

inland pawn
#

Ameng WidowFacepalm

uneven wren
#

bruh ameng

visual glen
#

hunters folding

tawny sigil
#

mah boy the shanghai dragons!

visual glen
#

PepeHands

raven grotto
#

he just suicided three times in a row in the exact same way

upper niche
#

yikes, it's not even 12pm and already at the end of the last match... but Contenders Aus finals starts at 12:30pm so perfect timing.

visual glen
#

it's over rip

tawny sigil
#

shanghai wins!

inland pawn
#

man

raven grotto
#

oof

trim shadow
#

hello shanghai playoffs

upper niche
#

WOOHOO

minor flame
#

man Chengdu really

uneven wren
#

rip chengdu playoff dreams

minor flame
#

needs to stop playing goats

balmy wolf
#

NOT 0-7

uneven wren
#

chengdu should never have played a goats mirror on 2nd map busan

minor flame
#

Chengdu needs to accept they cant face with goats

tawny sigil
#

unlike the winston oathlaw

supple prism
#

nope, they handed the baton to the outlaws

trim shadow
#

that point on busan is pharah favored right

uneven wren
#

yeah

upper niche
#

I wanna see Spark knock Seoul out of the playoffs.

minor flame
#

both busan maps

#

are dps favoured

nova wadi
#

Meka base is usually a widow map

minor flame
#

but they wanna stuck into goats

trim shadow
#

yang couldve just clicked heads and got the win

nova wadi
#

Indeed

uneven wren
#

i don't mind the 1st map playing goats

#

but the 2nd map

#

yikes

nova wadi
#

Meka base favors widow

minor flame
#

Chengdu has all the potential

upper niche
#

Or Washington knock Boston out haha

minor flame
#

if they dont switch to mirror goats

trim shadow
#

valiant for stage 3 playoffs?

#

your delusional space

supple prism
#

boston has been out

uneven wren
#

boston is eliminated already

upper niche
#

huh?

trim shadow
#

valiant are 3-11 if they make the playin for post season i will kill myself

upper niche
#

ah, cos HZS and SEO play each other.

#

and they cant beat SHDs map record.

#

ouch, map record really has done boston in.

minor flame
#

making Chengdu do 3-3 is just gonna cost themm

#

and they still havent learned that yet

trim shadow
#

yep shanghai did it

#

there making playoffs

tawny sigil
#

what can happen that knocks shanghai off?

supple prism
#

nothing

trim shadow
#

seoul has to win

#

but then again

#

not rlly

supple prism
#

dragons are in

tawny sigil
#

they aren't clinched

trim shadow
#

no but they have a better map differential

#

hangzhou winning clinches

supple prism
#

dragons has 8th spot

upper niche
#

So if Seoul wins and Shanghai loses even 2-1 each (or 3-2), the map record would be even...

trim shadow
#

7th*

supple prism
#

seoul and spark is fighting for 7th

trim shadow
#

hangzhou will win 3-1 is my predict

#

and even then thats not enough to knock shanghai out

#

chengdu had to win to unseat shanghai

balmy wolf
#

idk spark is pretty 50/50

tawny sigil
#

shanghai could get 0-4 and end up with 0 map dif

upper niche
#

I dont think SHD can be knocked out?

supple prism
#

dragons have 8th

trim shadow
#

7th*

supple prism
#

8th

upper niche
#

just trying to run the numbers - even if SHD loses 0-4, HZS and SEO play each other.

uneven wren
#

so if shanghai lose 4-0 to san fran

trim shadow
#

shanghai has _4

#

+4

uneven wren
#

and hangzhou beats seoul 4-0

trim shadow
#

hangzhou is -3

uneven wren
#

then shanghai is in

trim shadow
#

seoul is +2

#

seoul has to win 3-1 or 4-0 to get in

#

hangzhou just has to win

upper niche
#

And because HZS and SEO play each other it'll either be HZS 5-2 -2, -1, 0 or +1, or SEO 4-3 between +3 and +7.

uneven wren
#

has seoul and shanghai played each other yet

trim shadow
#

nurp

upper niche
#

So yeah, I think SHD are in.

supple prism
#

shd would need to keep 2 maps from shock for a tie at 7th

trim shadow
#

i still have shanghai for upset over san fran

uneven wren
#

then a 3-1 or 2-0 hz win will be a tiebreak game for the 8th seed between seoul and shanghai

upper niche
#

Let's look at worst case: SHD loses 0-4, they will be 4-3+0

trim shadow
#

shanghai taking a map off san fran should be enough to clinch

uneven wren
#

if only shanghai 4-0ed the justice

upper niche
#

I don't think there's a scenario SHD can't get in.

supple prism
#

there is 0 chance for a battle for 8th spot

uneven wren
#

poor hunters

trim shadow
#

doesnt matter what happens

uneven wren
#

they beat spitfire just to lose to valiant

trim shadow
#

hangzhou winning Clinches shanghai and themselves

uneven wren
#

for the 8th spot

#

there are tiebreakers

trim shadow
#

seoul winning gets them and shanghai in

#

at most shanghai will drop to 8th seed

#

thats if seoul wins

upper niche
#

Because even if SHD were 4-3+0, HZS winning would put HZS at 5-2 - so they would be in... so... Seoul need to only lose by one map AND SHD need to lose 4-0.

#

That's the only way

trim shadow
#

if hangzhou wins they remain 7th seed

supple prism
#

if seoul loses they are 3-4

uneven wren
#

oh wait

#

yeah i just saw that

#

seoul would be 3-4

upper niche
#

If SHD only lose 3-1, that's not enough for SEO. ANd if SEO lose 3-1, SEO are out. If SEO WIN, in any situation, then HZS get knocked out (and SHD make it).

supple prism
#

SHD in no matter what

trim shadow
#

clap it up for shanghai

#

went from a meme

#

to a team

tawny sigil
#

looking at it, they probably just messed up

uneven wren
#

props to shanghai

tawny sigil
#

cause they are clinched

supple prism
#

their graphic has been wrong before

trim shadow
#

you can like goto to the owl website

supple prism
#

it said boston had a chance yesterday

#

and they didnt

tawny sigil
#

shanghai lose 0-4 and hangzhou wins 4-0 shanghai still in and that's the worse case situation

trim shadow
#

chengdu loosing eliminated them both

#

and i think valiant and boston played?

#

the scenario for boston was

#

they needed hangzhou and seoul to lose

#

and chengdu

upper niche
#

Yeah. There's no scenario because of the h2h matchups that SHD can get knocekd out - because of that HZS vs SEO game.

supple prism
#

boston needed all the chinese teams to lose

trim shadow
#

basically they needed 4 teams to lose

#

and to lose in a sweep

#

not no 3-2

supple prism
#

when shd won, boston was out

trim shadow
#

the fact chengdu lost 3-2 means boston lost any chance of getting in

supple prism
#

boston was out before that

trim shadow
#

they had like a 10% chance of sneaking in

supple prism
#

no

#

shd beating justice knocked them out

uneven wren
#

shanghai winning a map knocked out boston

supple prism
#

doesnt matter, they out

#

its between seoul and spark now

uneven wren
#

i want that game to be match of the week

trim shadow
#

battle for the 8th seed essentially

uneven wren
#

it's win or go home

trim shadow
#

thats game of the week

supple prism
#

shd has the 8th seed

trim shadow
#

also seoul not getting a map off vancouver put them in this situation

supple prism
#

with a slim chance for 7th

#

or 6th if they beat shock

trim shadow
#

says on the owl website shanghai is currently 7th seed if hangzhou wins hangzhou is 8th if seoul wins seoul is 7th

supple prism
#

i dont use the garbage OWL webstie

uneven wren
#

hangzhou would be 7th seed regardless assuming shanghai lose to sf

#

owl website wtf

tawny sigil
#

hm?

#

not loading for you?

worn falcon
trim shadow
#

pulling a chengdu essentially

tawny sigil
#

flame was still defending goats

trim shadow
#

hey were good at this not that

tawny sigil
#

get the fuck off goats wtf

supple prism
#

if shd loses 0-4 to shock they will have a 0 map differential

trim shadow
#

im still pulling for the shanghai upset so they remain 7th seed

#

this is a death sentence anyway

#

who gets san fran again or who gets london

#

i would assume shanghai wants london

supple prism
#

not that shd or spark will make it far in playoffs anyway

trim shadow
#

nah

#

not in this meta

#

if it was dps

#

shanghai and hangzhou would be nutty

#

no sit down adorra

tawny sigil
#

why does monte say they only won 2 map

#

they won 4

supple prism
#

they are still a tier below fuel, nyxl, glad, and london, and two tiers below shock and titans

tawny sigil
#

most of the map houston won was because of linkzr

#

#freelinkzr

minor flame
#

SHD is pretty on par with Fuel Glad London

#

even current NYXL

#

Spark wont get that far but they make a nice opponent

#

atleast better than

#

Philly or Boston

trim shadow
#

also F dallas got cucked

supple prism
#

will give you fuel and better than philly and boston

minor flame
#

I mean they 3-2ed London last stage

#

so I think theyre pretty on par

trim shadow
#

this stage playoffs will actually be competitive compared to last stage

minor flame
#

and even their early matches with glads and nyxl were close

severe tusk
#

London has improved a lot, though

trim shadow
#

ohhh dallas is clinched

#

im dumb

minor flame
#

ehhh

hidden vault
#

F dallas trade aml and unkoe away

trim shadow
#

inb4 warning 2

minor flame
#

London has somewhat improved

#

its hard to actually see their improvement

severe tusk
#

but they are playing better so ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

trim shadow
#

they lost to chengdu

#

sooo wheres the improvment

severe tusk
#

NYXL is... how does one describe NYXL

minor flame
#

all the opponents London has faced

#

has been easy

opal spruce
#

bren vs bran, show me the difference

minor flame
#

and they lost to Chengdu

#

somehow

supple prism
#

my expectations for SHD dropped during the SHD vs Justice match

minor flame
#

tbf Justice has actual decent improvement

supple prism
#

shit got too weird

minor flame
#

their support has a substantial improvement

#

so is their coherency

#

but still falls due to

#

miscomms with Corey and Ado

#

that being said

#

SHD fell off in the second half

#

I think they just messed around

#

got too cocky

#

played

#

really fucking shitty comps

trim shadow
#

washington is just that team that needs to avoid the main meta

#

which is the bottom half of the leauge

#

theyre actually tanking by opting into goats

#

unless its like vancouver or san fran

#

then alright your fucked eitherway

supple prism
#

or any team that can switch off of goats and still do well

trim shadow
#

hence sorta chengdu definetly shanghai definetly atlanta

supple prism
#

defiant 3-1

opal spruce
#

was that the last match?

tawny sigil
#

oh boy you dont want to miss QnA.... cause they're not generic af

#

4 match for today, i think that's enough

trim shadow
#

@opal spruce yes

opal spruce
#

the all access pass had me confused, they have toronto and paris loaded up for the pov's

#

guess thats the first match tomorrow

tawny sigil
#

you'Re on the east coast?

supple prism
#

yes

tawny sigil
#

it adapts to your time so it shows 5 match in 1 day if you live east

supple prism
#

yea contenders does that and really threw me off

opal spruce
#

i live central tho

tawny sigil
#

well this doesnt apply to weekend anyway

trim shadow
#

ny fans are salty about loosing to atlanta twice lmao

solar olive
#

Oh hey, New York lost again and we're still undefeated

#

Nice

karmic grotto
#

hahahaha

echo quest
#

Shock 24-0 goddamn

#

Ez 28-0 incoming

vague tangle
tawdry whale
#

Pog u

echo quest
#

Spark should try to get 8th place instead of 7th

#

So they avoid titans...

trim shadow
#

san fran has the number 1 seed im sure

#

and london is the 2nd seek

analog lark
#

but Vancouver has 7-0

#

London has 6-1

#

therefore

#

London will have 3rd seed

trim shadow
#

london won the divison because nyxl dropped 2 maps and lost to atlanta

#

so london has the 2nd seed

analog lark
#

ooooh

#

division, right

#

I thought it was pure standings

trim shadow
#

the division leaders are the automatic top 2 seeds

#

so san fran and london

analog lark
#

I thought division only applied for final playoffs

trim shadow
#

it applies for all playoffs

analog lark
#

ah

tardy isle
#

Are you...sure?

#

Cuz it didnโ€™t seem relevant during stage 1

analog lark
#

London didn't know goats in stage one

trim shadow
#

thats cause vancouver and nyxl dominated

tardy isle
#

The seeds were based on who was where and then a coin toss/game to decide tied seed

analog lark
#

London finally got a hang of goats

trim shadow
#

and no one couldve won the division

#

the coin toss was because of map differential being the same

tardy isle
#

Yeah so was the game

analog lark
#

also, NYXL losing to atlanta twice, damn

#

only atlanta could win to NYXL twice yet lose to both LAV and Guangzhou

#

like, that's the very definition of inconsistant

tardy isle
#

There were two ties which were decided two different ways
The other seeds were just based on ranking
How did division matter?

analog lark
#

because it didn't as both division leaders were 1 and 2

#

i guess

vale pond
#

atlanta is looking progressively better

analog lark
#

are they? or are they just wildly inconsistent.

tardy isle
#

Why not both

analog lark
#

see one of my previous comments

trim shadow
#

the ties were just because the season just got started

#

and anyone can beat anyone in goats if they work together

tardy isle
#

tell that to the titans ๐Ÿ˜‚

#

Or sfs

#

Oml 24-0

echo quest
#

Well than Spark should really try for 8th seed

#

7th*

#

Shit they need to 4-0 Seoul for that to happen

trim shadow
#

if spark gets 8th seed they face san fran

#

which they did well against them but

tardy isle
#

If seoul wins spark are out and seoul takes 8

carmine thorn
#

So just to be clear. Boston can't make playoffs right? Even if they go 4-0 against Washington.

echo quest
#

Nope

tardy isle
#

If boston 4-0 Justice they will be 4-3 with a -1 differential

#

Assuming a 3-2 in spark v dynasty

#

Dynasty winning would put them at 4-3 with a +3
But spark winning would put them at a 5-2 -2