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They can reverse sweep I believe
Justice looks so much better
but shanghai played a comp they shouldn't have played
putting dding on brig and youngjin on doomfist was a bad move
Youngjin doom is viable
but on this point
its pretty difficult
Shanghai really likes to mess around with weird comps
dding's brig is bad though
yeah credit to justice for actually playing better
if Boston has to depend on 4-0ing Justice
I hope they fight this Justice
A fight for their playoff run
Shanghais ults have been questionable second half
its like they started to fall off
Corey
Corey literally
threw that
NA grav
and Gamsu fucking gives Shanghai a W
wtf corey

RIP Boston stage playoffs
The dream is alive.
Corey nice yeet
it was
And they just sat there and watched it.
Shanghai looked like they were on fucking ladder second half
but sometimes
just sometimes
POTG better be dding tho
they have really key plays
Props to Justice-- they tried hard.
Shanghai vs San Francisco 👀
They need to run geguri not running dva is hurting then
Diems bait grav
Them
I think they just need to stop with the dumbass comp
like Dding on Brig replacing Youngjin
it looks like they were in start of stage 2
just fucking around
again
Ye, like they were getting their shit pummeled by justice for 4 minutes of all teams
Justice looks a lot better with real supports though
And if justice didn’t throw winnable fights as usual it would have been a map 5
ye
Justice with Sleepy and Ark
is def way better
I say before that Justice looks promising
they have the potential
alot of fuckin potential
I really just think they need another dps.
Not replacing Corey.
But get one who can slot the Zarya and give them 3 dps rotation
they have a decent chance against the lower half
125 hacks
fuckin hell
Dding is insane as always
Shanghai vs spark in the playoffs
fucking insane
does dding play any other characters tho
Dding is their rotational D'va, yeah.
hardstucking sombra goats
When they don't run Geguri.
I think Geguri is a better dva
but youre losing the Sombra
and its hard
when Sombra Goats is your main comp
Geguri is their best D'va in terms of raw D'va play.
They need to run dva or they will get abused by the top teams
But not the best d'va for the current meta line up
They really don't - honestly, They play the Sombra Goats well enough its a bit of a downgrade for him.
And so far no team has tried to run an Ana counter to their Sombra goats, which is confusing.
I think Shanghais 3 dps comp should be tried out
it can be pretty effective in some points
They haven’t played a top team and made it work so
There's only 3 top teams, to be fair. And the only one they played this stage so far is NYXL.
even when their losses they havent looked all that bad
And Seoul has shown teams like NYXL aren't always great against Sombra goats.
No, their loss to NYXL wasn't a huge loss.
Each map was pretty damn close.
And that was early Stage 2.
early stage 2 Shanghai was weird
they were really experimental
trying out alot
of
Also where tf did Corey yeet his grav
It was a smart play, if Shanghai did what you'd expect.
Because in 9 out of 10 situations like that]
The other team drops onto you
So he would have kept the team graved to them
But Shanghai didn't drop
boston still has a chance to get in. if they 4-0 justice and then none of the other games are played for some miracle reason.
if this Justice shows up
I dont think a 4-0 happens
I think
Justice is always improving
low key
All this Justice really needs is a Zarya player.
underlying
They can 4-0 justice
boston gets 8th if 4-0 justice and the seoul spark match just doesnt happen
and val beats hunters
Is there a way Shanghai and spark make it?
yes
Boston has a barely better Zarya, so Corey won't be outplayed as much.
Like LAV have to win
I think Boston v. Washington will be a solid game.
no
yea spark wins and val wins
if Shanghai just
flat out wins
against Shock
no matter the map differential
theyll be 5-2
Chengdu is 3-3
oh and that
even with a LAV win they are 4-3
I see
So they are 5-2
Spark cannot get in
hi
spark would be 8th
cause theyll be 5-2
hunters would be out
They just need Seoul to lose to titans badly
on if Spark beats Seoul
Wait can’t SHD end up with a 0 map differential if they get 4-0 by shock?
Shock 4-0ing Shanghai
would eliminate them
if Chengdu doesnt win
if Chengdu does win*
a game would have to just not happen
So chengdu need to lose they are out because 3-4 , spark just needs to win
other than that i just cant get them in
Seoul can either get 4-3 or 3-4 unless they somehow beat titans
seoul could beat spark
and so can vice versa
True
yea
but even if seoul gets 3-2 they still in
they can
Wait nvm Shanghai will be out then
hunters then get 4-3 +6 for 7th spot
Chengdu
seoul just needs 3-2 to spark to get 8th
most likely Chengdu 3-1s LAV
even then
its Titans
like
theyll lose one game
and one game is the difference maker
they can be 4-0 by titans and still be in
I have faith in spark
shanghai would need 2 maps from shock to fight for 8th spot from seoul
2 maps even for Shanghai is such a difficult task
so then seoul gets 8th spot
then again
Guxue gonna style on marve1
Spark almost won 2 maps
from Shock
so anything can really happen
Seouls chances
would be better
if they brought Fissure in
What the fuck is Harsha's hair?
Am I the only one weirded out by it watching Watchpoint? Legit looks like he is wearing a wig on top of his real hair.
yes
Vancouver is still undefeated holy crap
are they the best team in owl now?
I haven't watched in a while
Yuh
they have been for awhile
@whole mulch ik im late to this but id argue that the shock are better right now, considering they have a 24 map win streak
That doesnt make them beetter cause there on a win streak
They have the morale and the confindence
Theres still slop in their play tho
Just like vancouvers
titans beat shock, and it wasn't long ago either
if they rematched today, i think titans would still win
not to underrate shock -- they are very good
but i think titans deserve top spot still
there a team of rookies
Destroying seasoned ow pros
But ofc thats Cause everyone wants to mirror match and not exploit the new buffs this stage
At this point its come down to
Which team least scuffed at the time
Cause both teams havent faced good opponents in a long time
well they faced each other
7 weeks ago
Shock has surely stepped up, but Titans are just - somewhere else. Apart from the fact that they have played longer together, remember all those defeats they suffered. While that hurt, it must have made stronger mentally. Game-wise, players on both teams are comparable, but mentally, Titans are way ahead
Also - maps won by Shock were extremely close, often won in the last fight. But maps won by Titans were pretty one sided.
And then, Rialto happened
Titans right now are honestly scarier than NYXL was any time last season. And if they keep working hard and don’t set up their own Minecraft server, there will only 2 teams which will stand a chance against them
There rookies
They have no owl experience
Apex is way different then owl
And contenders is way different
Theres almost no path to owl or no path that is financially supportive and relativetly put together
except that there is
How so?
I have no idea how you could commit time like that and pay your bills
You have to be lucky a academy team picks you up
Otherwise ur on ur own
Or a already established org like at or any kr team
#jakerat
washington justice feels like a ladder team
a bunch of very skilled players all doing roughly their own thing
A ladder team with really nice skins
getting dunked on by pros with terrible skins
seriously their MURICA colors are probably my favorite in the league
Underrated for the most part
We do see a lot of red and blue, so at worst it looks tired and way too stereotypically america
But when I showed all 20 team logos and asked which one they like from a non-esports friend
She said “what’s that one? I’d support it!”

wtf was that video
"a new boop"
grav solo :)
@limber pine 
Wut
yeah atlanta is nice
you posted that 4 times 
K
my laptop is airing the stream a bit behind and my x box is up to date but lagging
sad times..
ben ten
Coolmatt is nearly 30 but he looks both 30 and 16 at the same time.
coolmatt's hairline says 16 but his age say 30
ok jake
What is this fight lol
huh
Fury hungry today.
im not sure how that hit
Fury had a light breakfast today clearly
nom nom motherfuckers.
this is a real fight
fury tried to be rck :)
lol
outlaws currently eating pure shit
just like how fury is eating pure grav
Why is Jake still in OWL
honestly idk
Imagine losing a 5v6
This meme made by the Outlaws gang
Avast was right, Outlaws really are P e p e g a tier right now
they had alot of raw brawls but couldnt win it. sad
Outlaws had so many winnable fights in that map.
outlaws are farm tier for teams like XL, Shock and Spitfire
just another decorative piece to your win count
Soon™
Thanks buddy
all stars
they dont come out until next week right?
7-22 may
They aren't including s1 versions, afaik
there just pokemon sun and moon
onto drawnamura
You also had Groudon genji and kyogre tracer
A draw would give Houston a chance to reverse sweep efficiently
I'm expecting hanamura to go 4-3
Profit literally does not give a fuck and just solo ulted Muma
EZ Clap


4-0?
that analogy
food

London's coaches forbid Fury from eating anything before matches so he's always eating gravs.
what even was the bomb
does that mean Houston's coaches forbid them from losing before matches?
im so pissed
i swear that houston are trying to lose games at this point
imagine losing a 5v6
houston needs new players
do you think any teams are going to get transfered to other cities ex: Houston
players on houston who should stay: Linkzr, Danteh, Muma, Bani
Kick everyone else
Muma and Danteh are the only decent players on that team
maybe keep jake for the memes
linkzer is a good dps tho
Optic gaming is having troubles atm, I wouldn't expect any roster changes
jake for the marketing
@shrewd zinc Linkzr is a god my dude
Boink is pretty good actually
He's been one of the more consistent players on Outlaws this season
Jake could do better by not being a one trick
Thats true
Yeah, jake's rat is great, and maybe his soldier, but everything else is meh
They should keep Linkzr, Danteh, Muma, and Boink
did they just use the what are those meme
but here's my question. wtf happened to the defiant
idk dude
that old 2015 "what are those"
Stellar left
i mean they played well against vancouver
And Im37 isn't good at GOATS
stellar wasnt carrying
i dont think defiant was ever that great
my blame is on Yakpung
They were great chp
Outlaws are so going winless
Defiant had a strong schedule last stage
Thats why they went 5 and 2
I'm just gonna watch this netflix serie until atl vs nyxl comes
And even then thye looked confident
in stage 1 playoffs it looked like Yakpung was throwing
SOE outfit is bad
they went 5-2 because of a rather easy schedule
hold on imma look up the schedule
if toronto had a good korean main tank like Fissure they would be easily top 5
even if they had an easy schedule, they still had to be top 10 to go 5-2
at least
they are 13th overall now
they were 3rd
and im not even sure it was stellar leaving
the zarya was looking aat her stats to the side
nah they lost to the obvious NYXL and ATL
what they need to do is send IM37 and Yakpung to contenders
and beat weakass outlaws, val, spark, hunters, boston
toronto would be top 5 if they got Fissure and someone like Big Boss Pine
Fissure already has history with Bishop, the head coach of toronto
then this stage they fought mostly upper half teams and are doing poorly
dynasty, do they make playoffs yay or nay?
send im137 and yakpung to contenders
probably
pine hasnt played at all yet
i dont think spark will keep it together
and wont play till teams get a finger out there ass
but last stage they played good temas like chengdu and boston
pine deserves to start in the owl tbh
facts ^
sure, when Goats is much weaker
and a all korean team like toronto would be the best for him
toronto could save sayaplayer from the dump called the Florida Mayhem
eminem remix for fury
mayhem would not let that happen
people would do anything for enough money
and the money they would demand would be above what anyone would pay
Should've let Houston attack first, no point drawing this out

I wonder who is going to be on team south korea this owwc
the shatter was to make u for the eat. but that was also nullified
but heres the big question. will yeatle get signed to the owl
nah
Remember when Spree was considered the best Zarya in the league last season?
Jake confirmed just casting at world cup
I just want ZP and Avast 24/7
but would there be beef with sideshow?
Mfw DoA says the word "right now"
I hear a surprise CLICK from behind
It's just my washing going off gdi
team Canada in 2019 should be XQC, Note, Agilities, Surefour, Bani and Crimzo with Jayne as the coach
that was crazy
profit and birdring with the huge save
hi @spring heath uwu
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Hello there 👋🏻
Aye
It's your standard fare on Spree's Row
Sigh
0-7
LUL
Outlaws have been awful

Ladies and gentleman, the Houston 0-7s
I think it’s time to switch teams 

yikes
crab rave 0-7 crab rave
thats 1 team down thats going 0-7
florida and houston the ultiamte dumpster fire
Oddly enough, having 3 teams go 0-7 is so strange coming from a season where you knew 1 team was guaranteed 0-10 each stage
for the 0-7
shouldve played your style houston
After all that energy exhausted for some teams from stage 1
They should just forfeit
This was pretty tame
Why go through the pain of last map for the seventh time
JJONAK goku
Because krillin just got a banshee out of the Outlaws screechers
Florida gets too much hate tbh. They've on the up even if it's slow and they're still garbage
houston and florida have taken a nose dive from glory
"this is the power of ultra instinct"
theyve been bottom tier ever since last season
they are now cursed to be bottom tier
okay that was a funny joke
the only thing it amplified was there sadness lol
Gg to commentators
I'm still laughing a little lol
Jaluke
It was p funny lol
it looks like during scrims the entire team needed a "bathroom break"
I think the Outlaws r going to beef with another talent
houston plays goats on one of the maps that favours goats the least LUL
houston is an absolute mess jesus christ
NA BEAT LUL
^
Pog
should have had that
if they dont make serious changes during the mid season signings imma just support chengdu instead
I've never laughed harder at spitfire
Pulling off the chinese comp cosplay
fun team
idk i supported optic before ow league
GuangZhou is better off meta
Until I saw the damage that was done whenever they land on Paris
That's going to be a long midseason break to fix their Goats which their coaches and management want them to get good at
wait what did spitfire do
lmao
He's gone full hotba
damn missed it
cheeky grav here we goo
FURY
jfc
That's probably the best and last baptiste ult pulled off this week
J
KE
J LUL K E
J
K E
LMAO
Jake is not having a good day
He comes back onto the team as the comma continue to dissolve
Houston fans m.i.a

4-0
i cant believe i still support this shitshow
Texas rolled
This win means chengdu is better then london
stomped
China in general better than london
BibleThump
0U7LAWS
OUTLULs
such a fast language
should have been profit tbh
now for the nyxl atl rematch
nyxl vs reign .. interesting
winning a 4-2 fight
and nyxl to murder atl for revenge
nyxl will win
This is will be more exciting than I thought
there not the type of team to lose to the same ppl twice in a row
By how many maps or can we get a consistent upset

cmon reign lets beat new york again
i hope they give out more tokens next week
i just bought 200 tokens for the lucio skin dont mind me
Double was being promised for all star weekend
what lmao why ask to be roasted
wait i just realised
ur rich jerk :0
I'd roast you If you didn't think it should be cheaper
Let it
let it 
houston worse than mayhem LUL
golden shower incoming
im excited for seoul v vancouver
i just wanna see a good match tbh. atl better had been practicing alot
LOL
LOL
It sucks that Shanghai will never be able to pass theirs on
im gonna afk so i can pay attention to the whole match
Being 0-40?
They are last tho
Lets have a bet. Will he be PogMan or Dogshit today?

JJonak with the NA trans
Pog
imagine losing to atlanta twice as nyxl
top minds of the overwatch discord LUL
ahhh
Hhahaha

Classic Nenne grav
NENNE GRAV
Forced C9
dude that letternumber
Actually PogMan
oh nooo
oh meko
mano's shatter saved the day
meko was meched why did they wait so long on that push
JJonak on Moira is just cursed tbh
thrownak
lmao

your uber is here get in
hahaha

What a game
atlanta has nyxl's number

lets see these escort matches tho
I hope
WE DO IT FOR DAFRAN BOYS LETS FUCKING GO
ATL doesn't C9 again

Better than match titans vs defiant
jjonak builds trans so fast thinks he can just use whenever
titans v seoul today boys
anyone know when workshop leaves ptr btw?
So how does atl win
Dear Hardcore NYXL fans,
The team's success this season is flawed, Shock exposed it and now Atlanta delivers.
This match was the closest thing to a heart attack
But not vs charge
Exposing weakness
Some goats team are very good against others
they get cocky and make mistakes 😦
Talking about style of playing
Shock should of had it during their first and only regular season matchup
it went 4-0 in favour of nyxl despite their understanding of how they play
lets go
mfw JJonak's home jersey could be a fanatics spare
Seems like some teams don't understand how to play goats
Some don't have their own styles
Play goats like it's ranked
LA Weekend looks stacked. Nyxl, Titans, Sanfran, Glad, Dragons. Feels like a playoff series.
so now charge finally has a VOD where they have played GOATs without losing the series
ATL has been meh this stage
Imagine Outlaws was just a showcase match for Happy's Widow
babybay's hanzo is dishing out the damage
just got the upcomer notification because the outlaws match went so quick LUL
Lmao
right is nice
Frd needs to go back to hanzo
because its high ground
there's not a lot of high ground through any other entrance if you're not running a dive comp
FRD DID SOMETHING PogChamp
i clipped too late rip
hUH
Who screamed
Oh jesus dog
yay tracer~
Huh

2-0

map still winnable for atl
oof

savage
MEKO
REMOVE MANO'S MASK RIGHT NOW
we just nyxl to finally get their shit together and win
why did he faced towards wall?
bumper playing for nyxl 😛
jjonak doing jjonak things
welp
damn man
c9
lol frd
FRD fed
frd bruh
frd fed wtf
back to watching american dad.. match gets boring
ok, NYXL still has a chance for the division leader
they could've won
Did he get stunned, or did he really plan on ending his boosters alone in the middle of an enemy deathball?
Either way shouldn't have been there in the first place
he flew in too late and got stunned
Frd lmao
he was thinking of isolating rein but erster was there
or too early
Should have gone bunker comp
so is babybay a better addition than dafran?
and, was malik also an ow player?
malik plays on console
ok
Cause he was in the talent match last year
and the other 2 ?
None of the current talent are ex-pros in OW
i am talking about the casters
reinforce is the dude who works backline now, right?
And sideshow used to play TF2
haha tf2
rofl
no offense .. but that sounds like a basketball pro casting american football games
Yep, and somehow that's the state of OWL right now
sideshow always seemed like he has been an OW pro
but now, knowing he comes from tf2
oO
I mean, they're similar games and he's been a pro player, so there's at least some of the same perspective there
tf2 is similar to ow ?
And don't just outright knock the others because they aren't pro-level. Many have a good mind for the game but awful mechanics
tf2 reminds me more of the game i've played for a long time
sideshow is like plat now
Yeah, similar in that they're class-based fps games. A lot of TF2 pros moved to OW
@median coyote do you know dirty bomb?
wulfenstain: enemy territory ?
What about it?
you know that?
Know of it. Never played it
wolfenstein btw
K
how did nenne die so fast?

Random dva bomb
This is why they shouldn't play FRD
lul
holy shit daco
they had no idea where it was
Daco just gets weird hero plays sometimes
meko with the na bombs
Daco hard carrying rn
last second is always the turning point
daco eh
LMAO

The tbag
rude
The one who fed at the end of last map
what a hold
Babybay tbag ging
Are they playing on the old Blizzard World? XD
BBAAAAAYYYY!!!!!!!
jjonak not zen enough to hide lmao
old blizzworld?
Used to see second point holds way more before it was moved
wait what happened
NYXL got held before 2nd
damn
Yup
so now i have 2 fav zaryas .. the american asian and babydude
giant log to the face
Wow NYXL went extra passive there
Lmao what
;DDDDDDD
Another tbag
Two free ticks
It's free estate
this could be it
PogU
This is pretty sad honestly
LEGIT
YES

DPS > GOATS
NYXL just looks totally lost
EXPEFCT THE UNEXPECTED!!!!!!!!!!!
NYXL just doesnt try anything else
what is going on with them?
dafran was the problem 
someone recap what happened this match cause I just tuned in, and ....
daco saved the game
Why is this game a surprise they could take maps off nyxl
huge boop from maasa too
mano made a big mistake not switching to winston after dying
gonna be a shame when atl enters stage 3
what happened with dogmans hairdo?
You mean you wish Atlanta wasn't terrible for the rest of this whole stage
i thought he'd get a .. damn whats the name .. bla-cut
so nyxl was planning for playoffs but not this last game?
ooh junkertown
people always give some random ass excuse when nyxl lose
Bowlcut
babybay is a NUT holy shit
hey we might get 3-3 comp taken out with some anti comp, maybe plan for just in case an anti 3-3 comp
Basically no follow up
Babybay alone wasn't enough, and with 2 down they didn't have anyone else who could do it
Dogman is insane today
godman
lol
my god dogman
tha dogg ate the lil funny man
Pogman
absolute destruction
What
😦
ATL is 2-1!!?
Welcome
yeah
It's a weird day
I saw 1-1 but 2-1..??
that was a good push overall by atl
NYXL got kinda crushed on Blizz too
not weird if you're a atlanta player, it seems
Atlanta did prepare and were confident, it wasn't a fluke last match
Hmm predictions for playoffs will be different bcs of this
Yup. Already we know NYXL doesn't win their division, London does
So seeding is gonna be weird
Oh wow
That grav
Oof
Flanking Zen
These ults have been so ugly
Jjonak trans was iffy but that Babybay grav was just awful
a lot of NA ults from Atlanta
dayuumm son
in gold comp
yes im gold yes yes very correct
What's the map?
yea, a lot of very important ults were wasted
does this next win matter. how is seeding done for 3-8 places
JJONAK IS A FEEDER
if they win and the titans lose they are top 3
Players need to stop doing that
but lets be real
Which effectively won't matter right? 4 faces 5 soooo
titans arent gonna lose unless seoul play like fucking gods
^
my comp crushed at second game and i don't now what happend
it's 2-2 now
seoul lost the last what? 3 games to titans. 3-0 in favor of titans correct?
that i now but dont now how
Excel where losing so much last time i saw
i think atlanta are playing better overall, but nyxl's ult management is way better, because atl are just throwing out ults for some reason
They are
Kuch kuch
Babybay
Throwing grav after lost team fight
Ultimate throw
Did atlanta just improve like crazy or is NY playing scuffed again
I need to go out with my dog right now 
mano lol
one more game Atl. look how stoked they look.

and theese

