but the game became way too easy
#esports-discussion
uneven wren
inland pawn
^
minor flame
should see the current update MapleStory
game becomes easy for like 1-170
then bosses start coming in
uneven wren
houston gonna get rekt by london
inland pawn
i swear all the chengdu games are the last match of the day except for last week
uneven wren
well there is some logic to that
night tusk
time for china
minor flame
Houston is like only good for escort maps
and any other map they are apparently
pepega tier
night tusk
OMG FRAGI
inland pawn
just pepega tier in general
night tusk
well tommorow will be boring.. 90% sure defiant will not suprise us. not even close match... but Boston can have maybe a map 
worn hornet
so...that symm cosplayer's "website" link on her twitter profile goes to pornhub
supple prism
hopefully boston makes it interesting against glads but i doubt it
worn hornet
I'm hoping for the upset since I think a loss puts them out of stage playoffs
supple prism
who
worn hornet
Uprising over Glads
supple prism
glads are 6-0 right now
supple prism
boston is 2-3
so its not a deciding game
boston will at best finish 9th probably and that is if they 4-0 both games
worn hornet
I don't think they're quite mathematically out of it yet
supple prism
no but its stacked against them
worn hornet
it just requires an 8-0 weekend and a ton of luck regarding the other matches
supple prism
8-0 and val has to beat hunters
shock, titans, glad, nyxl, spitfire, fuel, dynasty, hunters is my current guess in that order
minor flame
Hangzhou v Seoul is dependent on their match
and im really fuckin hoping Hangzhou wins
supple prism
i doubt it since they barely beat teams much weaker than Seoul
stark salmon
At least 
made it into the playoffs again (for this year)
I just hope they don't end up going against 
again
slow walrus
stark salmon
Maybe Stage 3 will be 🆚 in the playoffs finals :3
I still wonder if will do well against some of the other teams that are guranteed to get into the playoffs for stage 2
Which are 
upper niche
Don't forget that SFS got absolutely mobbed by NYXL in stage 1.
At the current rate the semis would be SFS vs NYXL and VAN vs GLA
Having said that though, it's an elimination final system, not a bracket final system. So a single loss by any of the top 4 teams in the first round completely throws it all out the window.
echo quest
@supple prism anything can happen Seoul dropped two maps to LAV
minor flame
LAV still has some very good players you shouldnt underestimate though
And Seoul is coherently more weak on aggression since they benched Fissure
primal ibex
i feel like as long as goats is meta, sfs will do well
tawny thorn
i feel like they're one of the best teams no matter the meta
if it goes back to dps they have an all star lineup
minor flame
Theyll fall off a bit when it comes to dps meta
trim shadow
!schedule
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
swift moth
holy shit rascal is insane
I was just watching him pop off yesterday and he is so good at baptiste
echo quest
Depends what dps honestly if tracer ever comes back they have striker chilling on the bench
slender lance
i was thinking the same thing
i think if tracer is meta they will use sinatraa
because of the synergy
tawny thorn
for sure
sinatraa is like their poster boy too
they wont take him off tracer even if striker is better
he might be perma benched
slender lance
chances are they will use striker for widow or tracer if they feel he is better
i dont think sinatraa is a perma starter
swift moth
i think they will use striker on tracer and sinatraa on zarya
or something like that
and also super seems to be more of their poster boy
in my opinion
tawny thorn
he's definitely blown up yeah
swift moth
probably trade him
tawny thorn
werent they starting him over super a lot at first
little silo
i think they just tried them both and realised that it worked out better with Super
swift moth
lol
little silo
Janus hasnt been making waves so far
swift moth
thats true
little silo
But Im not sure if thats because of him or because the Justice was trash so far
What about Nevix
swift moth
i think justice trade corey or jjanus
little silo
Justice need a better offtank to have a decent roster
swift moth
you want the zarya rein synergy
swift moth
its all about synergy in goats
swift moth
thats why sado is playying over fragi, because sado has better synergy with carpe
tawny thorn
the justice roster is strong enough now to be a mid tier team?
little silo
Yes but I think that Sansam should be repaced
tawny thorn
their support line is nuts
little silo
but who
swift moth
bring him in for some dps and then put him away
echo quest
@slender lance no they wont sinatraa wasn’t even the best western tracer striker was 1b to sbb
swift moth
boston is a weird ass team
echo quest
To be fair sbb kinda styled on Boston in the stage 3 finals
little silo
Yes but the entirety of NY did
little silo
Guxue and Ameng is a weird tank line
minor flame
Striker individually is on par with SBB
little silo
Winston Hammond is decent
echo quest
Contenders
pearl stratus
Also people are being dumb.
And thinking All Stars is taken seriously.
When its not.
They'll play Winston + Hammond if they feel like it. It's arcade.
pearl stratus
Did people not watch the All-stars last year?
They literally played 6 dps for a while.
little silo
I mean that team is mainly Chengdu anyways
little silo
is mickie in for all stars
pearl stratus
If he didn't make the popular vote I doubt it.
echo quest
^
toxic dagger
He isn't attractive
swift moth
its nyxl vs hunters
trim shadow
Df yall talking avout
Yvetal is buff looking
And chubby faced
No homo
Oof winless stage for houston
Long fall from the top Optic gaming
Just like ur cod and halo scene
trim shadow
Nah..unless ur talking about someone mentioning inmortals looking for a stake in optic gaming
tawny thorn
could have been that
tawny thorn
would be kinda cool if they merged the teams or something
make a better western roster
slender lance
Numlocked is on British hurricane it thought
trim shadow
Wonder if hell make it back to owl
little silo
Considering how successful British Hurricane are rn he probably will
trim shadow
I wouldnt be suprised if most of british hurricane gets owl offers
slender lance
What team would need players from the British hurricane
balmy wolf
Paris.
They should pick up Hafficool.
In fact while we're at it why don't Paris just pick up all of BH and make them their starters.
Except Greyy > Bock1
jagged crater
there was an allstar game last year was like 5 koreans + custa, they didnt even communicate with custa
westerners feelsbad :9
slender lance
I think it was muma not custa
full field
i wonder if spark is going to die next year
karmic grotto
huh
sound is low of the game?
british hurricane preparing themselves for runaway
fallen cloak
never watched contenders
but just found out theres a player on angry titans with the same name as me
and the same main as me
just thought that was cool
vagrant cargo
@balmy wolf SDB>dannedd imo
Also Paris should Pick Up ellivote or hafficool i agree
And spectral
Spectral is the best EU DPS
echo quest
@full field ?
trim shadow
Paris should trade ben and pick up numlocked tbh
jagged crater
but where will ben go?
trim shadow
Why does eu contenders have terrible names
Hafficool?
Lulsish?
Df is that
@jagged crater valiant or boston
jagged crater
cool namse
trim shadow
Its not no gargoyle or Profit or Carpe
supple prism
I hate the 3 letter names
nova wadi
Fanatics are such a joke
jagged crater
why
minor flame
I want Bischu back
If Bischu comes back for Glads I might start supporting them again
echo quest
@trim shadow what would LAV do with with benbest?
minor flame
Be worse
limber pine
LAV's issues won't be solved with a new main tank
trim shadow
Probably not
vagrant cargo
Fate is a Big Problem tho
trim shadow
But they have to make a move player wise
vagrant cargo
Also benbest doesnt deserve to be in OWL so far
trim shadow
And that juicy trade with boston cucked them@hard
vagrant cargo
^
vagrant cargo
Paris needs a zarya Player tho
And a top Tier offtank
That are their Main Problems
little silo
îm kinda glad that krystal didnt get traded to boston
echo quest
Like his mechanics are some of the best in the league but then he goes in by himself or is out of position. Maybe the rumour of fate wanting an all Korean team is true
minor flame
Trading Krystal to Boston would be dumb af
little silo
it was rumored
echo quest
For stage 2
minor flame
Spark better not do this shit again against Seoul
It could literally lose them a series
echo quest
The thing is adora doesn’t even play on control where you would play pharah
He plays on 2cp idk why
little silo
it almost lost them the series against paris
trim shadow
Krystal getting traded wouldve doomed boston
echo quest
Spark*
trim shadow
Hangzhou not boston*
Im@still angry about valiant jumping the deal the day of finalization
And now asking isnt even playing contenders
vagrant cargo
I mean Boston would have absolutely robbed Valiant with that trade
Fusions is a rein otp that gets overrated tbh
echo quest
That would have a been a dumbass trade by LAV
vagrant cargo
Yes
pearl stratus
I like how the sub reddit now thinks 2/2/2 for pro play should be locked.
So many parents just went to town with vodka while pregnant.
Doing preg-stands.
echo quest
2/2/2 for comp
jagged crater
fate goin from SK world cup MT to replaceable MT on one of the weakest teams in OWL
what happen
has the synergy been lost
supple prism
I at least want some way to stop people from filling, if that means 2-2-2 then fine
pearl stratus
I'm talking people wanting it for OWL.
To remove goats.
Some smooth brained planned parenthood poster children think that 2/2/2 should be in the OWL.
wintry kraken
today games start at 2:30AM 🤦
tardy isle
balmy wolf
xd
tardy isle
They’re gonna make it to playoffs if I just support harder
balmy wolf
YEAH
tardy isle
They just need the power of optimism and that time Michelle ate five gravs in one day
nova wadi
is numlocked OWL material
nova wadi
shutup gold
karmic grotto
2.75k*
plucky rune
for some reason being called a plat stings more than being called a gold
nova wadi
Ok plat
plucky rune
ow
vagrant niche
Hey, i have a legit question
Since Shangai got another D.Va player
and if Geguri was SOOOOOOO good at Zarya, why she hasn't been playing that role?
vagrant niche
so she is not the Zarya "GOD" people claimed her to be
rumors turned into exaggerations it seems, not her fault
cause it wouldn't make sense to bench a talented zarya on this meta
vagrant niche
then why she's not playing then if she's a zarya god?
gaunt acorn
why isn't zunba playing
because off-tank in this meta means d.va
zarya is for the dps players
except spree, but don't look at outlaws for good management
vagrant niche
if she's is so good and will carry you with her skill, you put her on dps
this meta is very goats dependent still
clearly, she is not as good as other Zarya's right now otherwise she wouldn't be benched
the lady can't live to exaggerated rumors and I can understand that
gaunt acorn
i didn't make that point
i said 2 years ago she was considered a zarya god
and accused of cheating
nowadays things have changed, sure
little silo
shanghai runs more dps comps than other teams
pearl stratus
You put her on DPS if you're a smooth brained baboon.
Like so much of reddit / this channel is.
"Lets have two spots on our roster that can't flex at all"
Super A+ idea.
vagrant niche
i'm just thinking that if she could carry so hard, it would outweigh the not flexibility of the dps role she fills in
pearl stratus
No. Thats a plat chat argument. Bad. ]
Stop that.
Get your SR up.
Get better thoughts.
Bad.
Also just as a tangent its a different way to play Zarya, so thats not always translative.
Look at like...
Carpe.
Just as good a DPS as so many others.
Plays Zarya like a potato with brain damage.
vagrant niche
uh
but if Geguri plays a God like zarya
what is the issue?
that she can't flex to widow etc?
pearl stratus
She can't flex to anything. Literally anything.
She plays D'va, Zarya and some hamster but Gamsu plays it better.
So if you drop anything to flex she's just being rotated back onto the D'va.
vagrant niche
so basically, she's not that good then
pearl stratus
She's very good, she's not very good for this meta. There's a massive difference.
Is Carpe good?
Is EQO good?
vagrant niche
isn't Carpe number one on solo kills?
pearl stratus
Because they're both shit at this meta.
Like dumpster fire shit.
Huge piles of shit.
vagrant niche
they are worse than LA?
pearl stratus
Individually for the heroes they have to play?
Carpe is a worse Zarya than KSF. Agilities is a worse Brig than Eqo.
Adjusting your playstyle to fit into Goats doesn't magically mean the players aren't good anymore, just inflexible.
We all made fun of Sinatraa for his dps hero pool in Season 1.
he figured out how to play Zarya from OWWC -> Season 2.
And now he's arguably the best Zarya in the world.
The second it goes back to strict DPS?
He's benched for Striker.
He's already said it.
Doesn't mean he's bad, means his tools don't fit the meta.
If we went back to a more strict composition team of say... Dive.
Geguri would be back on D'va.
It's part of why Shanghai, Vancouver, Shock look so smooth lately. They can cover all of it with multiple people. They're relatively meta-resilient.
NYXL I left out intentionally, because they still sometimes get confused as fuck when things get weird.
They play the meta very well but we'll see how it goes further and if they repeat Stage 4 of Season 1 playing Dive into Brigitte.
vagrant niche
btw
when is zen going to be out of meta same with lucio
i remember people bitched a lot about mercy, understandable
but i been saying discord orb is op af since forever
i thought they would be out from the start of goats
but apparently they made their way into it
people still blame brig for Goats
when there are goats that are played without her
pearl stratus
The supports, by in large, are probably the most balanced they've ever been to be fair.
vagrant cargo
brig is the reason why goats is meta
lmao
ofc they blame her
she is the mainhealer
pearl stratus
I mean she's not anymore.
vagrant cargo
the character that gets switched out the most is dva
also geguri is overrated
af
pearl stratus
We've seen more than enough Ana and Baptiste Goats to know that if you dropped Brig you're not dropping Goats.
vagrant cargo
brig goats is still the main thing tho
pearl stratus
Yeah but are you dumb as fuck enough to say if brig got removed Goats would suddenly stop?
Thats like the reddit thread that says pro play should be 2/2/2 locked.
For balance.
vagrant niche
tbh, i don't see why that matters in pro player
but i wouldn't mind if the game was changed to be forced 2/2/2
the game could change
back in vanilla you could run 6 tracers
pearl stratus
It could change for ladder but enforcing static team comps for pros dumpsters so much strategy.
Also my favorite was like "They ran like 95% different comps when they were running 2/2/2 in Season 1"
By which they meant...
Dive.
And Dive.
And some other dive.
Little more dive.
Then some dive.
vagrant niche
i mean, that argument is flawed
I understand it would change strategies and make the game much strict and simple
but i would be ok with that tbh
it should be easier to balance as well
pearl stratus
The problem with balance is more for ladder crying than anything though. So change it for ladder.
Everyone on ladder is shit anyway.
You get plat people thinking they actually know what they're doing, etc, etc.
Gold people thinking reaper is op.
pearl stratus
And unless you go into round robin really nasty buffs and nerfs you're not going to see different comps in a hard locked 2/2/2.
pearl stratus
You'll see one comp over 80% of the time (which is still higher than Goats, despite what people think), and then the two maps you play Orissa on.
vagrant niche
i mean
people are going to do it for the win
meta is meta
no matter how balanced a game is
people going to run the most optimal stuff
pearl stratus
Exactly. While right now we get multiple comps, unless you're playing shit teams.
The problem is 60% of the league is shit teams.
vagrant niche
even if it's 0.000001% higher chance to give you the win
people still going to run it as default
pearl stratus
Thats my biggest annoyance - people are blaming something they dislike instead of facing the fact that they teams they like aren't good.
I would be willing to say British Hurricane, Angry Titans, new Contenders Runaway, new Element Mystic and Fusion University would be able to win against 55-60% of the OWL right now.
vagrant niche
well from what i see
there is not a big disparity on skill gap between t1 and t2
it's just who got lucky to get a spot on t1
pearl stratus
There is in a dps meta, but in a meta in which its your teamwork that makes you win there isn't.
vagrant niche
etc
pearl stratus
Because so many of the OWL teams have garbage teamwork.
I.E. Philly, Houston, Florida... pretty much the whole bottom 12.
vagrant niche
maybe they also have garbage coaches
vagrant niche
Aero really made a big difference to the fuel
pearl stratus
Big picture, but in terms of individualized coaching his compartmentalized style hurts them.
There is no reason for Zach to have barely improved on Brig when Crusty turned Sinatraa into what he did.
vagrant niche
pearl stratus
And I know its only Brig but look at the difference a Haksal, Rascal or Youngjin makes on Brig.
Compared to a Zach, Jake/Linkzr/Arhan, Floridapersonwhodoesn'tmatter.
Look at how picking up im37 went.
trim shadow
I wouldnt be suprised if baptiste brought back dive
trim shadow
If any major buffs or nerfs come out before stage 3
vagrant niche
and then sometimes he plays worse than me
pearl stratus
I don't think Dive will ever come back as a dominant thing.
trim shadow
Zach just graduated highschool btw
pearl stratus
Most people didn't do the math back when the armor changes went in
trim shadow
So hes young and slightly stupid
vagrant niche
i'm aware
pearl stratus
But the armor changes nerfed the FUCK out of dive.
Not out of Goats.
TTK on Winston/D'va went way down in Dive Scenarios, they're so squishy.
In generic terms something like a Sombra, for instance, received a roughly 32% damage boost against a Winston and a D'va.
32%.
vagrant niche
what Blizz needs to do is release a bunch of heroes at once
that will shake meta pretty bad
pearl stratus
The meta itself isn't that bad though, people are just chicken little.
Other teams just need to not be shit.
Thats the biggest disparity.
vagrant niche
i'm not picky about Goats tho, i like it
pearl stratus
Harder than Season 1 the skill difference between teams in Season 2 has turned out to be gigantic.
vagrant niche
cause there's a lot of teamwork
pearl stratus
Like absolutely monstrous.
I can count on maybe three fingers the teams I find improving.
trim shadow
Honestly teams are stupid if they cant figure out what they need to counter goats
pearl stratus
Shanghai and Chengdu being two of them.
trim shadow
Since goats id weaker then it was before
tawny sigil
dos shanghai have to win against both team or just 1 to have chance to be in the playoff
vagrant niche
Ameng so fun to watch
pearl stratus
I mean the fact they get so many wins shows just how bad so many teams are though.
Chengdu is -not- hard to figure out.
They're just taking people and beating them with mechanical skill at this point.
pearl stratus
Mei is so touch and go on so many points.
She's way more effective on ladder.
She only does really well on Anubis B and Nepal Hut Thingy, imo.
vagrant niche
village
pearl stratus
Yeah, that sounds right.
The Sombra is the better pick, either way.
Because the Mei won't stop Jinmu and Yveltal.
trim shadow
Chengdu was suppose to be winless btw
pearl stratus
Honestly so many of the Zens have gotten so good at reading Sombra this season, its getting tougher.
pearl stratus
But the point is this is a disappointing season overall so far because I just don't think we're seeing improvement like we should be.
And its crazy because for all intents and purposes teams really only had -one- comp they had to practice.
And I think thats whats making everyone so emo wrists over Goats.
It's bad enough to see the same comp, whether its goats, dive double sniper etc.
But then to see it done really badly?
I could watch Shock v. Vancouver Goats all day.
pearl stratus
But if you wanted me to watch like...
Florida vs. Washington
I'll kill myself.
Not because its goats.
vagrant niche
pearl stratus
Because its so bad.
pearl stratus
I'm also confused more teams haven't gone the Shanghai route.
Shanghai can still play Goats -really- well.
But they're just playing DPS because no one else is other than Chengdu.
vagrant niche
tbh the game has a lot of flaws
and the dev team kind of suck at it
i'm hoping
someone will create a mode
on that new workshop
that will be a good balance etc
pearl stratus
I'd argue that the dev team has the game in a really good spot right now.
vagrant niche
and it might become the standard
pearl stratus
People are just influenced by how shit they are.
vagrant niche
well tbh
pearl stratus
Because Gold problems are gold problems. plat problems are plat problems.
pearl stratus
And fixing one in one place sets up another.
pearl stratus
It's why no one below...
Masters?
Should really matter.
But thats the majority of your whiners and loud talkers.
And even masters barely has a meta.
pearl stratus
I'm saying the majority of the loud complainers are from there.
vagrant niche
the game is so boring to play nowadays
it's the same thing
over and over
wins don't even feel good
everything is so uncoordinated
common sense doesn't exists
etc etc
pearl stratus
Sounds like high gold / low plat.
vagrant niche
i lost motivation to get good and grind competitive
ye i hoover on plat
never been able to get out
pearl stratus
Yeah, the biggest problem is people play solo.
vagrant niche
but i don't grind anymore
pearl stratus
Like smooth brains.
Solo queue should have never been a thing.
It's not CoD, and most solo queue tries to play it that way.
At the lower SR brackets, that is.
spring ermine
funny thing is about queueing
i used the find group function for the first time tonight
we got a 6 stack and lost both games we played
then i went to soloq and won
pearl stratus
It's too late for the function, sadly. You needed use it early on to build your own teams.
Thats what I did.
spring ermine
theres needs to be a better way to play in large comps
spring ermine
yeah 3 stacks are the only good stacks
any more and you start going into insta-lose territory
pearl stratus
6 stacking is great if you go play more on the scrim side of things.
Which is also really fun.
spring ermine
ye
pearl stratus
But thats a lot more coordinated.
spring ermine
definitely
pearl stratus
My hope is one day they try and peel a little bit from the WoW Arena type of thing so you can register a three stack static.
And it works on a group SR.
spring ermine
also role based SR would be a godsend
pearl stratus
But dividing up the queues would kill queue times.
No.
AT and BH were pretty much neck and neck with how good they were.
silk dawn
aight
pearl stratus
BH get talked up more because of a few casters loving them.
So basically if you talk to like... Bren or Sideshow, all about Hurricanes.
Talk to Reinforce, all about Titans.
nova wadi
So sfs losing again to vancouver?
worn hornet
This is last night's postgame right?
worn hornet
Haugopen probably spent last night making a Note voodoo doll
trim shadow
Tbh im tired of goats at this point
All theese dps gods
Tank gods
Nd there hardstuck on a contenders meta
It also shows coaches arent bright
Or arent stratergisr
wizard
reef imp
This is pretty entertaining.
worn falcon
ye, i like the sillyness of watchpoint
supple prism
its fat albert
tawny sigil
no idea who that is
supple prism
google it
tawny sigil
busy making workshop stuff
supple prism
old cartoon show
supple prism
fuel 4-1 mayhem
shock 4-0 fusion, a complete stomp to the point of spawn camping.
and super spinning around on the payload
dreamy cave
sad..
worn hornet
super literally flexing while being shot
supple prism
Charge 3-2 outlaws
dreamy cave
ohhh a game 5? nice
supple prism
outlaws tried and failed to reverse sweep because they cant play control maps
tawny sigil
BOOM BOOM
dreamy cave
lol
dreamy cave
wym?
trim shadow
You didnt see how sad hydration looked
dreamy cave
missed it
supple prism
very
supple prism
mei or may?
dreamy cave
both..
worn falcon
is gonna be mei
dreamy cave
u could say the same for a doomfist
night tusk
omg I did not watch, how tf 100/0 for boston xd
trim shadow
Upset incoming
balmy wolf
mei goats
night tusk
still xd
worn hornet
Moats
night tusk
snoats
dreamy cave
did anyone else hear the dud in the background?
worn hornet
I played a bunch of MH today. I think I can supply enough.
night tusk
Lets go Colourhex
tawny sigil
people in the crowd sound like they went just for shit and giggles
and give zero crap
dreamy cave
hammond
trim shadow
Lmao whos singing emp dynamite
night tusk
Fusions is in all stars btw
trim shadow
Beautiful tracking on that moira
dreamy cave
fr? they came out with the all stars already?
night tusk
from 2way player who might not been able to play in OWL. to starter. to all stars. really pog
minor flame
shut the fuck up you fucking dumbass
night tusk
minor flame
sit the fuck down
worn hornet
DId I just hear a "What the fuck glads?"
dreamy cave
PINE
trim shadow
Inb4 blizzard escorts that fan out
supple prism
you ok?
trim shadow
Its a gladiators fan
night tusk
he did not came to watch OWL.
minor flame
I want Bischu
azure harbor
that fan
dreamy cave
caught by the flying ape
trim shadow
Bischu is apperantly back in contenders
minor flame
Fusions did nothing when Glads took point
Contenders is over isnt it lmao
Fusions didnt do shit when Glads was killing Boston
WHAT ARE YOU DOING BLASE
night tusk
I love pine response https://twitter.com/tf2pine/status/1124028687467331587 even he was thinking like "I did not even play this season"
Twitter
night tusk
Blase doom finally
dreamy cave
carpe is a good dps tho , just hope he does something other than zarya
visual glen
worn hornet
I don't believe I've ever played Doom well enough to hit 400 hp
visual glen
SHHHHHH
visual glen
SHIELDS UP
night tusk
EMP CARRY
nova wadi
Zzzz
visual glen
NO
night tusk
THIS FIGHT
azure harbor
RCK
night tusk
INSANE AF
worn hornet
holy shit
balmy flower
rck needs to cut that aderall
worn hornet
two flips in OT
balmy flower
dude is SHAKING
warm quartz
Why the fuck can they scream like this and not get kicked out
night tusk
5 man EMP and 2 starting elims
trim shadow
Got flash backs of that shanghai dallas game
trim shadow
hey blizz devs this is what happens when u let dps gods be gods
Well rck is a off tank
nova wadi
What have the devs have to do with this
trim shadow
^
nova wadi
♿
worn hornet
ugh
visual glen
worn hornet
that would've been beautiful
visual glen
void wut
night tusk
why are they not playing goats ????
azure harbor
scripted game
opal spruce
i think thats why
nova wadi
Cause boston sucks
night tusk
I mean, do we see shock or titans try this dps stuff ? learn from the better teams 
supple prism
they do
night tusk
not on point 2
opal spruce
so now that we're a ways away from the note rck trade, note definitely got the good side of the trade
night tusk
im talking about this map
azure harbor
they have to allow balance patches during season I think
uneven wren
nah titans play ana goats on this map
night tusk
that would be unfair
minor flame
both people in the trade got the good side
night tusk
if you mean stage
nova wadi
When u play goats and a bastion is shooting from above who is gonna get him
azure harbor
@night tusk yea, I understand that point but still, I think it would be fair trade
night tusk
goats is strong because of the system of map
nova wadi
Goats is strong cause of coordination and the team
night tusk
who gonna contest the point
with bunker
who ever contest, will die because goats is so heavy
nova wadi
Like i said when boston got no one to get bastion lots can stall
night tusk
well I take just what Jayne said. thats why you see shock not try other comps alot for example
nova wadi
Also cause shock is a much better team
azure harbor
that charge
nova wadi
Pepega grav and bomb
nova wadi
3-1 glads tbh
night tusk
I wish this Discord had a shortcut for map pool aswell
minor flame
Shaz tryna 1 man
visual glen
can RCK stop clutching
night tusk
balmy wolf
glads probs gonna lose this
visual glen
Roar keeps getting booped the past few fights
balmy wolf
gg
visual glen
spring heath
blase~~~~
night tusk
OMG
minor flame
I think Glads is having an off day
night tusk
LOOOL
minor flame
they dont look like their normal top form
worn hornet
BOOP! No OT touching for you!
nova wadi
Yikes glads is bad
trim shadow
UPSET ALERT
night tusk
@nova wadi so now it will be a reverse sweep ?
trim shadow
WEEEEOOOOWEEEEEOOOOWEEEEOOO
nova wadi
Coaches will spanl glads
minor flame
if Glads wakes up from this again
Glads looks bad rn
I know they usually
look shit in like first map
nova wadi
Decay especially zz
minor flame
then do good in next 3
trim shadow
This is the highest level of mental boom@ive ever seen
minor flame
but they just look washedu p
nova wadi
I mean not like boston is that good
balmy wolf
but thats it
minor flame
Boston is def not that good
minor flame
but LAG is inconsistent mid series
nova wadi
^
minor flame
like not even overall inconsistent
just inconsistent IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SERIES
look shit first 1-2 maps
look better in second half
visual glen
Glads have been inconsistent since season 1
nova wadi
Hed be swapped for hydration right
balmy wolf
i dont bischu is gonna back into the starter lineup for a long while
void has integrated too much already
night tusk
Reverse sweep or not ?
nova wadi
Possible
tired mango
i thought everyone said gladiators was the #4 team lol
night tusk
!schedule
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
minor flame
I dont think theyre like top 4 but the only real one to match it is SHD or LDN
minor flame
hardcore atl fan Rusha is
supple prism
played a round of comp and come back to boston up 2-0
night tusk
first map was close with last push rck carry
the last map was weird..
boston could easily lose 2-0
but they won 2-0
minor flame
its mostly Glads falling off and rck clutching every time
Colourhex
hmmm
let me just stand infront of my rein
and go into enemy front lines
dies
oh god oh fuck
visual glen
LOL
visual glen
Stream sniping 
supple prism
before the start of the stage i did predict glad to lose at least one match, it was either against the seoul or boston. i picked them to lose to seoul
oh well
supple prism
nope
spring heath
lmao caster confused
night tusk
worn hornet
I mean it can work if your DPS follows through
supple prism
but didnt really remove the trans away from point
minor flame
for like 2 secs
cant follow up when rein still has shield
see
now thats how you do a grav charge
if they did that type of shit first point they wouldve held
inland pawn
NA Shatter
south brook
Let them get allllll the way to the point
supple prism
again
south brook
In ot
south brook
Honestly they’re holding, but they keep choking at the last min
minor flame
swear glads has a choke curse at this point
night tusk
well stats say whoever take point A on Blizzworld most likely will finish the map aswell / High % chance
uneven wren
last fight again
minor flame
aaaand shaz is dead
uneven wren
this time glads survive
nova wadi
I didnt see him in killfeed 🙂
south brook
The stress
spring heath
lmaO
uneven wren
let's see how hard glads are tilted
spring heath
im in killfeed
visual glen
inland pawn
no s4 widow no win 
nova wadi
@spring heath u suqq
supple prism
wasnt it like a 75% chance or so?
night tusk
spring heath
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minor flame
lmao
minor flame
ok apparently boston still has the Rivalry Buff
from S1
Thou shalt always win from thy rival
worn hornet
wait where the fuck even was void there?
south brook
Lol
visual glen
Was that barrier really necessary lol
night tusk
5 min hold lel
minor flame
wow they might cap that fast
spring heath
says no defense when they respawn lmao
minor flame
gg
night tusk
gg
worn hornet
welp gg
minor flame
this is what I mean
spring heath
gr
night tusk
spring heath
not gg
inland pawn
decay making the enemies decay
spring heath
!!!
uneven wren
hey look glads didn't get mentally boomed after two overtime failed holds
visual glen
Glads are performing like rollercoasters
spring heath
5th map ! ! !!
minor flame
this is rialto?
ok glads win that
Glads is just superior in straight up goats
unless rck clutches
with sombra
i dont see a win
spring heath
i disagree
night tusk
last time boston played on this map omg it was vs vancouver
uneven wren
and rck isn't playing sombra
spring heath
sombra is not the clutch that everyone thinks she is on rialto
bc of the map angles
minor flame
shes like the only best shot boston has against glads lol
uneven wren
sombra works against passive teams not against the glads
spring heath
we'll see~
minor flame
as they get pummeled
spring heath
i HOPE
minor flame
koth
minor flame
ok both teams fucking suck at this ult usage thing
nova wadi
Void nice bomb
supple prism
map 5 is always control
uneven wren
decay carry
spring heath
lmao decay always clutch w void
minor flame
ngl
spring heath
hydration eating butt
nova wadi
Decay is so good
visual glen
wat
minor flame
nice Roar throw there
spring heath
yum
uneven wren
decay was low hp the whole fight
nova wadi
Smile
visual glen
ugh
nova wadi
Roar reee
visual glen
roar costing glads fights
uneven wren
is roar mentally boomed right now
spring heath
OK DECAY
minor flame
ngl
spring heath
?