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minor flame
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Yang can play Tracer or any hitscan like cree

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Elsa is a good sombra

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and a good offmeta player

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they have the flexibility to do it

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they just dont want to

swift moth
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in the same way in your games if you have a pharah who wants to play pharah against triple hitscan, the pharah will be at a disidvantage

minor flame
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they also dont have Brig

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Brig really helps with peel

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and the peel wouldve been cruical seeing as how

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you know supports always getting focused

swift moth
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I dont think brig would work on chungdu

minor flame
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I know

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but its like its hard to peel

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and to counter the dive

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that is going on yoru supports

karmic grotto
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Dallas Fuel are not the smartest in Eichenwalde lmao

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Keep going through the bridge instead of taking back

swift moth
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it would have been funnier if seol had pulled a yeatle boop

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because dallas was in position for it

minor flame
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what else can they do

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go through castle?

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get spammed?

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ez ult charge for seoul

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grav

karmic grotto
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At least better

minor flame
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bridge is the best way you wanna know why they lost?

karmic grotto
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Than getting hooped

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Booped

minor flame
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cause zach is the shittiest brig

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ive ever seen

karmic grotto
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Butbyeah

swift moth
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seol had a close game with glads so I would say they are 5th or 6th

minor flame
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zach soft counters tobi on the bridge

karmic grotto
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Zach should stun tobi

swift moth
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zachafeed zaryalul

karmic grotto
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And watch our for boops

minor flame
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Seoul is 5th-6th

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I see London on par

karmic grotto
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Did he do that?

minor flame
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with Seoul

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no

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not at all

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he was on front lines

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dying

karmic grotto
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Lmao

minor flame
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I think London Glads and Seoul are pretty on par with each other

karmic grotto
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Who the heck puts zacharee the whole match

minor flame
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4-6th is really just them

karmic grotto
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When he's shit on brig

minor flame
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you just cant really tell

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who is better than the other

swift moth
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do they have a swap for him?

minor flame
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I think London and Seoul have been looking great

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kinda

swift moth
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^

minor flame
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Mickie is the alt brig

swift moth
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seoul has been great

minor flame
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but like

swift moth
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oh damn I forgot about him

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cuz he gets no play time

minor flame
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Zach is favoured for his flexiibility

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which is bullshit

swift moth
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😢

minor flame
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cause he doesnt flex at all

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so its just better to put in Mickie

swift moth
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or you try and fix zachs brig

minor flame
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hahaha

swift moth
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but that doesnt seem to be happening

minor flame
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you rely too much on Fuels coaches

swift moth
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jayne is chad

minor flame
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Jayne and Aero are like ok

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but Zach is either unteachable

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or shit

swift moth
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but zach brig is shit

minor flame
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or coaches are

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prob both

trim shadow
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or slow

swift moth
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jayne is chad

minor flame
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Aero favored Zach too much and got him on even though hes terrible

swift moth
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but hes a tank main

minor flame
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Zach is also just terrible

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obviously he hasnt learned

swift moth
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how is valiant that high

minor flame
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they had 2 wins

swift moth
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true

karmic grotto
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Fuel needs a good brig player

minor flame
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they should just invest in Mickie

swift moth
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but I watched some of their games and they seemed weird

minor flame
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investing in Zach obviously is a lost cause

swift moth
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trade hydration

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hes chad

minor flame
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why would they trade hydration

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for zach

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lol

swift moth
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man plays main tanks just because he can

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dragons are a team that is doing surprisingly bad

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I expected them to be doing so much beter this season

minor flame
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what

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are you serious

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Dragons are doing good

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they 3-1 Chengdu

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3-1 FLA

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they take a map off of NYXL and LAG

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which in of itself shows that they were still doing good

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even in losses

swift moth
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in my oppinion dragons are a top 8

minor flame
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they are

swift moth
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so hopefuly they will get there

minor flame
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Dragons just have a unlucky stage

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LAG Shock and NYXL

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and somewhat Chengdu

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but Shanghai dps is just

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insane

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its prob one of the best dps duos

swift moth
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diem shit on surefour

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who sopposedly is a great widow

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however surefour did have the entire dragons riding his dick

minor flame
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the only reason why LAG beats Shanghai

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stronger tankline

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and Decay

swift moth
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@minor flame no it was dding junkrat

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it was a total throw

minor flame
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atleast he was decent on Anubis

swift moth
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it didnt work on any of the maps they tried it on

minor flame
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but actually

dreamy cave
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atlanta at the top

minor flame
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no it was Shanghai really just

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experimenting

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I think they didnt really try their best

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I think they were experimenting their comps

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which I think has worked out

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Youngjin Doomfist is great

swift moth
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yeah

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but doomfist is a wonky character

minor flame
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I think if current Shanghai was fighting LAG

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I actually wouldnt be sure

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who would win

swift moth
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@dreamy cave rip dafran

minor flame
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cause current Shanghai I think is more coherent improved

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on their dps flex

swift moth
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@minor flame gladiators would win

minor flame
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and I think if Dding went sombra instead of Junk

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they could have a way better chance

swift moth
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because they would use surefour on different maps

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they tried his widow against diem

minor flame
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Surefour

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Surefour is not that good

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honestly

swift moth
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and it didnt work

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I agree

minor flame
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yeah but I think current Shanghai would try the Doomfist and Sombra in more diff maps

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making them better at the 3-3 at different maps

swift moth
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but they tried to use him as acarry at the beggining

minor flame
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Doomfist 3-3 is becoming a viable comp now

swift moth
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but now they seem to be using him less

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@minor flame doomfist is bullyable

minor flame
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if Shanghai coordinates Youngjin as well as they did before with the 3-3

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it could be better

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plus Sombra 3-3 is Shanghais

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possibly strongest comp

swift moth
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shock will take a massive shit on spark

minor flame
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yeah

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I think so too

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but I think Spark has the potential to take a map

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Super outplays Guxues rein but

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Guxues winston is insane

swift moth
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striker rein?

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striker rein.

minor flame
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I think Shanghai is seeing alot of improvement

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theyre going more of the Chengdu route

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becoming more unpredictable with new wacky comps

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and its definitely working

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but these are mostly on mid and low tier teams

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so I hope that they can correctly implement this type of play

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on the higher ups

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cause Shanghai does have strong potential with their flexible dps pool

boreal bronze
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Which team won? LAG or chengdu?

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I didn’t watch through to the end

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They were losing when they brought in surefour

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Started winning with void

swift moth
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gladiators

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thats how its been for a bit now

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void is pretty good

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also rip bischu

boreal bronze
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What’s wrong with Bischu

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):

minor flame
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LAG

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3-1

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Bischu is sick

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apparently he has ulcerative colitis?

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so hes not really in his prime form

pearl stratus
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He's better now.

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The lent him down to Glad. Academy.

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Voids doing well, and Bischu missed a ton of practice, so no synergy.

boreal bronze
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Yikes

balmy wolf
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apparently it got worse since he was taking caffeine pills

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took too much and made his UC even worse

boreal bronze
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D:

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Yeah I never take anything I don’t need

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I don’t see why people obsess over secret supplements and shit

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that ultimately end up getting them sick or killed

trim shadow
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cause humans dont think for themselves

outer sluice
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EZ clap vs Shanghai tomorrow

trim shadow
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So mykl is a little shit

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Dude stopped doing owl news for fortnite money

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Thats tragic

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And lied to his community widowok

mint flower
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yeah i followed mykl since S1 preseason and he ditched like a pussy

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Actually fuck that guy

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And claims that its not for money
also im pretty sure he had a giveaway of like 300+ OWL items and he literally never did it after hyping it up for like a month and a half

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@outer sluice hell no

trim shadow
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Thats really scummy lol

mint flower
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ikr

upper niche
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So what?

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If that's where the money is, that's business.

trim shadow
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Yea thats cool and all

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But is money worth abadoning 20k hardcore owl fans?

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For 500k fortnite kids?

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Or i think thats how many subs hes earned

mint flower
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I hate fortnite with a burning passion

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no he had 60k OWL subs and he has 2mil fortnite subs

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o i see he posted

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BUT IT WASNT EVEN HIM TALKING

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So he's handed the channel over to a friend but doesn't have the balls to tell his audience that he's done so

trim shadow
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Thats how i found out lmao

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wait this isnt mykl whos this?

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Dudes handing over his channel and still owning it while his friend uploads on it

proven saddle
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do you think zachary should be penalized for his "toxic" tweets?

trim shadow
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What he say

proven saddle
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whinning about brig

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there's plenty more

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i thought, well he it's just saying what he thinks at first, but now i think he is being kinda toxic tbh

trim shadow
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...zach..thats not how the anime goes

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The shield hero is hated but does good things and is powerful

proven saddle
trim shadow
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This little shit

idle beacon
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`did i misunderstood

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or did that fl mayhem dude talked about getting a complete korean roster ?

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shit league gettin fuckin stupid .. whynot call it Korean League

proven saddle
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i know right?

idle beacon
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really really stupid

proven saddle
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just put a limit like 3 players like in League of legend

idle beacon
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yup

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i've mentioned this before

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and some imbecilles here came up with comparing OWL with champions league teams

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like eh?

proven saddle
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i just it's unfair just buy a contender team whole roster and change their name

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cof cof vancouver

idle beacon
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what i dont get is

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why koreans

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they act like koreans are unnatural gamers

proven saddle
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because there it's most competitive

trim shadow
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More established

idle beacon
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doesn't mean they're alot better than any other ethic players

proven saddle
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i'm from chile, a southamerican diamond must be like a gold player in korea

idle beacon
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isn't there a chile player in OWL ?

proven saddle
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idk, but we partipated in the 2016 cup and get fucked by US y think

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mostly because the team was made of youtubers but whatever

supple prism
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no chile as far as i know

proven saddle
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i would love to see more teams from all parts of the world but if we have teams like London or Vancouver, i don't see the point

supple prism
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or hunters

idle beacon
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i really dont understand blizz in that part

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i mean end of 2017 it did look fine

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not such a huge korean overload

proven saddle
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but chengdou it's from china

idle beacon
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but teams exchange players with koreans one after another. stupid af

proven saddle
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and the most of their players aswell

idle beacon
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SHD is complete korean now, too?

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or does it still have a chinese player?

proven saddle
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just one lol

idle beacon
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who?

proven saddle
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diya

idle beacon
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is that still a young puppy? 😃

minor flame
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zach needs to shut the fuck up about brig jokes

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cause he is actual garbage

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complaining about her just because hes trash

idle beacon
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who's zach ?

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@minor flame

uneven wren
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zachareee

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dallas fuel dps

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he's a bad brig

minor flame
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worst brig

idle beacon
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when was he makin jokes about brig ?

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and well .. all korean roster couldn't beat SHD

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stupid descision, going full korean

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lol zachareee even looks like garbage

idle beacon
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where is fissure ?

minor flame
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benched

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seoul found that Marve1 is a better fit for Seouls style

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Fissure is better individually but Marve1 allows Seoul to play a bit more passively

tawny sigil
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mah boiz, the dynasties

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gotta love the gladiator having the most match done in stage 2 so far, but still lowest in map diff of all top teams

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even nixel lost 1 match and is ahead by 3 still

echo quest
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@idle beacon koreans aren’t better, they just have better coaches and attitudes

bleak ginkgo
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They aren't physically better, but their culture is more improvement oriented, and has much higher amounts of exposure to esports

echo quest
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Look at league of legends Doublelift greatest NA player of time. His family originates from China yet the best Chinese players are leagues above him

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@bleak ginkgo right In Korea esports is a legit and your respected for it

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Job*

minor flame
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do you know how bad korean mentality is

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holy shit

echo quest
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@idle beacon I don’t really care if most of the players are Korean. It’s not their fault they’re best players

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@minor flame very toxic

minor flame
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koreans in inven are a toxic wasteland

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pro koreans push themselves too hard

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no self care

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Effect is the prime example of this

echo quest
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Inven?

minor flame
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Inven is like KR forums

echo quest
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Ah kk

minor flame
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its like the reddit of KR

echo quest
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I wouldn’t say most Koreans over work

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Shanghai s1 were

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They scrimmed 15 hours a day

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Why is Fate’s stream so scuffed 😦

tawny sigil
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its like that analogy someone used a while back i forget who

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its like back in the roman era, no country were that advanced at war, so they were losing.

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they weren't investing time and money into it so when a country that did that came to them, they just lost

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its the same concept here, parents are dum here , they just tell you to get off video game, if you become pro they still tell you to get off video game.

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then you start to make money and they're like. I don't like that you're playing video game but you're making money so i'm ok with it i guess.

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over there its accepted, so parents dont mind their kids putting 80 hours a week practicing, in america and europe?... that would never happen... NOT IN THIS HOUSE!

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Parents are so dum infact im sure tons of pro players that are making money are still being annoyed by their parents to get a normal life style.

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now what remains to be seen as this become more accepted is, whats the retention rate for pro players, what's the cut off point here,when do we start to say, ok you are too old, there is no way you can compete on a high level

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pretty sure its way lower than physical sports

bleak ginkgo
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depends on the person, and their habits while playing

tawny sigil
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well that's like saying how old do people.... nobody gets to 120

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so can a 40-50yo compete in esport on a high level. that's a question that remains to be seen

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time will tell

bleak ginkgo
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For example, someone like IDDQD can't compete on a high level anymore, because he played in a way that ended up ruining his wrist forever, but dafran, who is only 2 years younger, is still more than good enough to compete

tawny sigil
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millage on wrist may vary

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i never struggled with that playing the games i play, but others did.

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one game i played required a click for every skill use and the atk speed got as fast as 5 times per second, needless to say there was some wrist pain complains

echo quest
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Look at Shadder2k he is 18 and is taking a break because oh wrist pain

tawny sigil
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considering esport is relatively new, i would assume a lot of people dont do proper stretching, if at all

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how many of you play multiple hours a day and do proper arm stretching?

floral flame
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I

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I played 0.5 hours a day

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stretch my wrist after 5 mins

tawny sigil
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can't judge your stretch quality, i know stretching is not intuitive and to reach certain nerve you need to do some weird motions sometimes

floral flame
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True, I just do the basic hands out forward stretch

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and then try and bend my wrist back with my other hand

quaint canopy
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Hey I'm a high master doomfist player on ps4 who's has hit top 5 the last three seasons my peak is 4390 can someone help me join any team???

gaunt acorn
quaint canopy
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Thank u

mint flower
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is shadder2k still on a break?

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How long ago was it that he announced he'd be taking a break?

vagrant cargo
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I mean it doesnt matter at this point

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Many Players have surpassed him

trim shadow
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U dont understand how much i love this

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Guxue will tear his ass open on winston tho

balmy flower
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!schedule

somber yewBOT
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<:HOU:438251672821563402> HOU vs SHD <:SHD:438251672599527437>

Apr 21st 16:45 EDT (in 8 hours)

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hidden vault
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Question:
Is Animetic's Mercy owl worthy?

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Or total trash?

queen drift
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Trash

echo quest
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Who?

swift moth
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I use to watch her to get better at mercy since I am a support main

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her style is similar to kephrii in the regard that it is a solo queue style and not a team style

pearl stratus
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Also its Mercy.

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Arguably the most useless support to be amazing at.

swift moth
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at times mercy has been good, and investing in a lot of players in the event that your support players have a mediocre mercy might be a good idea, especially since mercy is more useful in the multi dps comps

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however anemetic plays a solo queue mercy, and doest play like someone who has a team to back her up

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which would put her at a disidvantage since she is spending more time hiding than healing as compared to someone like neptuno

queen drift
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!schedule

somber yewBOT
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Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 2 Week 3
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Apr 21st 15:00 EDT (in 4 hours)

<:HOU:438251672821563402> HOU vs SHD <:SHD:438251672599527437>

Apr 21st 16:45 EDT (in 6 hours)

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Apr 21st 18:30 EDT (in 8 hours)

undefined ATL vs GZC undefined

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night tusk
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I watched the matches of yesterday

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damn Tobi

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also Jimnu Doom, sad they lost..

echo quest
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Tobi got 8 environmental kills in 4 minutes....

trim shadow
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Cause zach cant shield bash or whip@shot

night tusk
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lol clutch play from Tobi

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so I wonder, should I think Houston lose because they don't peform good, or that I believe Shanghai is good

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Houston seems to give up their DPS comp style and their goats is not peforming

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last time they could easily swap back to dps comp since enemy main tank was on rein.

pallid brook
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I think the best route for Houston would be pulling a Chengdu and sticking with the heroes they're good at, even if it's out of meta

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I feel really bad for Linkzr and Danteh, Danteh's Zarya is decent but they're putting him on Zarya instead of their Zarya specialist Spree

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Linkzr is such a talented DPS player who barely got any time this season, I have a feeling he'll be picked up by another team soon

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As long as Houston can outplay Shanghai's sombra goats and not group up so much, they should pull out 3-2

hidden vault
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Houston starting line up is spree danteh jake

night tusk
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last time they played danteh linkzr arhan, and than arhan coolmatt linkzr

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danteh had to flex dva

queen drift
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houston is just a big mess of a team tbh

night tusk
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I think if they are not able to pick with the dps comp sometimes they go to goats for panic reason but than the ult eco is lost

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I watched the oversight interview with monte and GM of Outlaws. it looked like they dont even know

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lets play dps because the fans want it lol

balmy flower
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!schedule

somber yewBOT
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Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 2 Week 3
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<:HOU:438251672821563402> HOU vs SHD <:SHD:438251672599527437>

Apr 21st 16:45 EDT (in 4 hours)

undefined HZS vs SFS <:SFS:438251672712642571>

Apr 21st 18:30 EDT (in 6 hours)

undefined ATL vs GZC undefined

Apr 21st 20:15 EDT (in 8 hours)

Developed with LOVE by MoonFire ·
pallid brook
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for their last two matches they did decent on DPS comps for the first round and then they switched to goats and it all fell apart

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I think houston's supports need some work

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rawkus is good, but he needs to work more on keeping the tanks alive

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he shouldn't have gone ana on anubis

fresh epoch
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How can we get rid of GOATS in STAGE 3? Nerf Brig and Dva, we already got nerfs to everything else, and it is still played 80-90% of the time PepeHands

balmy wolf
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It's crazy how Brig has received nerfs in almost every patch since her release yet she's still dominant

echo quest
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they nerfed the shit out of dva so many times

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leave her alone lol

balmy wolf
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dva is kinda busted tho

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she's the most versatile hero in the game and she works in pretty much any team comp

echo quest
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not really its just that her kit combined with her mobility

balmy wolf
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exactly

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she needs nerfs there's no question about it

echo quest
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no other off tank has that\

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nah

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Make hog viable again

balmy wolf
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still wouldn't make dva less viable

echo quest
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it would give a choice

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zen isnt op

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but most picked

balmy wolf
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if you asked pretty much anyone if they'd prefer a dva or a hog 90% of people would say dva

echo quest
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hog is more fun wdym

balmy wolf
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the other 10% are idiots

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yeah torb is fun too doesn't mean he;s viable

echo quest
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no shit because hog is legit garbage

fresh epoch
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@echo quest omg... zen is only picked because nothing dies otherwise because zarya needs discord on targets.

echo quest
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zen has been meta for two years yet nobody calls for nerfs

trim shadow
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Theres nothing else we can do to goats

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Rein is weak outside of goats

echo quest
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delete brig ez

fresh epoch
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@echo quest we know literally nothing about hog since hes almost never if never played in owl.

trim shadow
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zarya cant rlly be touched

balmy wolf
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lock 2-2-2 ez

trim shadow
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Its goats year round

balmy wolf
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hog is only good on certain maps where orisa is viable

echo quest
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@fresh epoch he's legit garbage even on ladder he's just a big ult battery

balmy wolf
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or in quad tank

echo quest
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even when hog could one shot he was never played

balmy wolf
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but 99% of the time dva will be a better pick than hog

fresh epoch
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@balmy wolf dude, i love you, always on my side! 😄

balmy wolf
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@fresh epoch ?

echo quest
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How much do they nerf dva lul. Brig is trash outside of goats

fresh epoch
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@balmy wolf xD u think the same.

balmy wolf
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dva needs nerfs to her mobility and she needs to not be able to use missiles while matrixing

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or just one of those things

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otherwise she's gonna remain an S-tier hero forever

fresh epoch
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@balmy wolf PeepoDance my reaction, dva mains who get salty: PepeHands

balmy wolf
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I'm a dva main too lol

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She needs nerfs

echo quest
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if goats die zarya pickrate drops a lot

balmy wolf
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👌🏻

echo quest
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and hog is ass

balmy wolf
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wait no

fresh epoch
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yes she needs nerfs! literally i tell a friend how we win against a reaper, just matrix couple of his shots when we are low, instant win games xD

echo quest
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sooooo

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that isnt really broken

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it was way more op before

balmy wolf
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dva's matrix is one of the reasons traditional counters to the individual goats heroes like pharah and junkrat aren't run

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well they are run sometimes

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but good goats teams will beat those counters

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if dva got some more nerfs goats would die or at least not be the optimal team comp on almost every map

fresh epoch
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@balmy wolf ❤

balmy wolf
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weirdo

fresh epoch
#

since they balance everything around 2 2 2 later anyways, let all the DPS players in OWL have some fun PLZ Blizzard! 😄

echo quest
#

look at chengdu

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they dont run goats but still dva

balmy wolf
#

yeah chengdu can only get wins against teams that are crap at goats

echo quest
#

every single time

balmy wolf
#

admittedly they took vancouver to map 5

echo quest
#

Ameng hinders them

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sucks jiqiren doesnt have his visa

balmy wolf
#

Yeah but good goats teams just roll them anyway

fresh epoch
#

dva can matrix everything but rein, dva and junk ult right?

balmy wolf
#

Dva can matrix anything that isn't a beam or a targeted ability

echo quest
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because ameng is ok on rein and cant play winston

balmy wolf
#

Chengdu will have more flexibility once Jiqiren is playing

echo quest
#

jiqiren is much better on both other than hammond

balmy wolf
#

Since they'll be able to field a good Rein and Winston

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i mean better

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I haven't seen jiqiren play yet

echo quest
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best tank in china after guxue

balmy wolf
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ahh

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well i look forward to seeing him

#

but that doesn't change my mind that dva needs nerfs zaryalul

queen drift
#

!schedule

somber yewBOT
#
Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 2 Week 3
undefined VAN vs BOS <:BOS:438251672633081857>

Apr 21st 15:00 EDT (in 2 hours)

<:HOU:438251672821563402> HOU vs SHD <:SHD:438251672599527437>

Apr 21st 16:45 EDT (in 4 hours)

undefined HZS vs SFS <:SFS:438251672712642571>

Apr 21st 18:30 EDT (in 5 hours)

undefined ATL vs GZC undefined

Apr 21st 20:15 EDT (in 7 hours)

Developed with LOVE by MoonFire ·
fresh epoch
#

@balmy wolf yes dva nerfs and our DPS Mains can finally play the game in OWL again! and if Brig gets a shield nerfs even better!

minor flame
#

Brig is shit outside of 3-3

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Making her worse makes her the worst healer

#

Dva is fine

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She just has no competition cause shes the one of a kind off tank

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Other off tank dont offer as kind of utility

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Plus Matrix is very limited when it comes to resource and CD

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ironically if you nerf dva you nerf dive, so the dps favored meta suffers

proven saddle
#

@echo quest what if they make hog breather only heal 200 (instead of 300hp) but make a damage reduction area of 5 mt(like soldier biotic field)?

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to protect his team against zarya's grab

night tusk
#

I hope Boston suprise us and suddenly pop off vs vancouver

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but don't believe that could happen lol

supple prism
#

well they do have a sombra now

minor flame
#

im hopingfor some kind of upset or some surprise from boston

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ive always hoped for some kind of intense match from a underdog

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but Titans too good

night tusk
#
  1. Fusion University lost a regular game. 2. NYXL lost a regular game. now Runaway and Vancouver
queen drift
#

!schedule

somber yewBOT
#
Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 2 Week 3
undefined VAN vs BOS <:BOS:438251672633081857>

Apr 21st 15:00 EDT (in 18 minutes)

<:HOU:438251672821563402> HOU vs SHD <:SHD:438251672599527437>

Apr 21st 16:45 EDT (in 2 hours)

undefined HZS vs SFS <:SFS:438251672712642571>

Apr 21st 18:30 EDT (in 4 hours)

undefined ATL vs GZC undefined

Apr 21st 20:15 EDT (in 6 hours)

Developed with LOVE by MoonFire ·
echo quest
#

FU is really fucking op

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They’re so good they loaned whoru to meta athena

limber pine
#

------------------------------------------

Stage 2 - Week 3 of the Overwatch League is live in 12 minutes!

DAY 4 MATCHES

12:00 PM PST: VancouverTitans Vancouver Titans vs Boston Uprising BostonUprising
1:45 PM PST: HoustonOutlaws Houston Outlaws vs Shanghai Dragons ShanghaiDragons
3:30 PM PST: HangzhouSpark Hangzhou Spark vs San Francisco Shock SanFranciscoShock
5:15 PM PST: AtlantaReign Atlanta Reign vs Guangzhou Charge GuangzhouCharge

Watch live at:
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Full schedule:
🗓 https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/schedule

minor flame
#

ok guy

dreamy cave
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this man

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picks all shock dream team

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smh

vale pond
#

Titans 4-0 uprising

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Dragons 3-1 houston

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Shock 3-1 spark

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Atlanta 3-1 charge

nova wadi
#

interesting u think spark will take one map

vale pond
#

eh

minor flame
#

Titans 3-1 Boston

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Dragons 3-1 Houston

vale pond
#

They’ll struggle for that map

minor flame
#

Shock 3-1 Spark

vale pond
#

Boston wont get a map

minor flame
#

Charge 3-1/2 Atlanta

vale pond
#

You’re overrating charge

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Atlanta has daco back

minor flame
#

youre underrating boston

vale pond
#

And a morale boost

#

its the titans

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I want them to take a map but I’m not hopeful

minor flame
#

titans likely struggle in koth

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and they also struggle not being cocky enough to not care about the 4-th map

vale pond
#

Maybe

minor flame
#

boston takes 1 map likely

vale pond
#

Fair enough

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You still overrate charge

minor flame
#

im doing the risky bet

#

cause Eileen Doom

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is the thing that will give the surprise

vagrant cargo
#

I doubt that Boston Takes a map

vale pond
#

Eileen wont carry

minor flame
#

Eileen wont carry but Doom Goats is starting to become a viable thing

vagrant cargo
#

Also Atlanta looked extremly good against nyxl

vale pond
#

Atlanta is better in every other role

vagrant cargo
#

Ngl

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No

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Shu is better than dogman

minor flame
#

Atlanta looks good alot because NYXL looks like shit

vale pond
#

atlanta looked like a whole diff team

worn hornet
#

Boston 4-0 Easter miracle

minor flame
#

usual scuffed NYXL

vale pond
#

Even if xl looked shit

vagrant cargo
#

Nyxl didnt even played that Bad

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Lol

minor flame
#

they fuckin did

vale pond
#

its still xl

minor flame
#

they tried to play aggressive

vagrant cargo
#

Thats just discrediting them

minor flame
#

which is not their passive style

nova wadi
#

NYXL sandbagging

vagrant cargo
#

Atlanta*

minor flame
#

Mano isnt getting peeled

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theyre not coordinating

vale pond
#

they focused mano

vagrant cargo
#

Im not even a Atlanta fan but that is just rude against Atlanta

#

Atlanta did a great Job focusing down mano

minor flame
#

Atlanta played well but NYXL played shit

vale pond
#

Atlanta still played well against xl

vagrant cargo
#

Nyxl played Shit for their standards

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Thats the diffrence

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They still looked Like a B tier-A Tier Team

vale pond
#

You cant compare charge regardless

minor flame
#

Shu is better than Dogman ill say that

vale pond
#

Unless he plays pogman

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But ye prob

#

But everyone else is better

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esp masaa and daco

dreamy cave
#

ATL W today guys

minor flame
#

individually theyre on par overall, its just that Daco and Pokpo work better together

#

and the fact that Happy is

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questionable

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their mixed comms stop their individual talent

vale pond
#

eh atlanta is a better team

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with better players

minor flame
#

Atlanta does questionable decisions while their pushes

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and I dont think they can really counter Eileen fist unless Eileen isnt

vale pond
#

Which charge is not capable of punishing like xl would have been

minor flame
#

Eileen fucking chokes

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again

vale pond
#

and eileen cant carry

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the whole match

minor flame
#

Im not counting on Eileen carry

vale pond
#

You’re overhyping

minor flame
#

Im counting on the Doomgoats to disorientate

vale pond
#

I dont think they will be

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If they do atlanta will run sombra goats or dps comp

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atlantas downtrend was due to daco being gone, new players, and shitty morale

steady hare
#

Question:
What games do you guys think will actually be worth watching tonight I.E Not 4-0 where everyone plays GOATS?

vale pond
#

it looks like thats turning around

minor flame
#

none of them

vale pond
#

Modt games today wont be

minor flame
#

except for Shanghai v Houston

vale pond
#

Shanghai will stomp but it would be a nice game

mint slate
#

i have sound

vale pond
#

Congrats wecome to joining everyone else

#

who has the ability to use their ears

fresh epoch
#

@minor flame then what needs to be done in your opinion if you think brig and dva are okay? what is your idea?

azure harbor
#

zaryalul this is going to be painful for Boston

minor flame
#

what about goats?

drowsy fulcrum
#

TOTALLY TUBULAR CUBULAR DUDEULAR

#

FUSIONSSSSSSSS

vale pond
#

scheduled loss 4head

fresh epoch
#

@minor flame u texted that brig is shit out of 3 3 which is true and dva is fine, but how dont we get goats in STAGE 3?

vale pond
#

brig is shit outside of goats lol

fresh epoch
#

OR do you want to see all the DPS players on BRIG again? PepeHands

nova wadi
#

or

minor flame
#

nerfing zaryas damage is a viable part solution

drowsy fulcrum
#

I want to see high level overwatch

minor flame
#

but the best thing you could do is power creep it eventually

nova wadi
#

it isnt even that bad right now since we got more variation

drowsy fulcrum
#

don't really care about the characters they play

vale pond
#

The current meta is pretty good rn

nova wadi
#

nerfing zaryas damage to make her shit in ladder zzz

vale pond
#

map dependent goats and other stuff

#

Teams play to their strengths

minor flame
#

nerfing 10% zarya damage is fine

drowsy fulcrum
#

balance for the top and it'll be balanced at the bottom

#

it's how they work on TF2 and it works well

nova wadi
#

i disagree with nerfing zarya damage

minor flame
#

itll nerf her capability in low energies the most so it'll just promote more better bubble usage

drowsy fulcrum
#

FUSIONS HAMMOND

little silo
#

I kinda want Boston to win this

#

just to see vancouver lose and miss the win streak record

drowsy fulcrum
#

BOSTON

#

FUSIONS

#

AAAAAAAAAAAAA

azure harbor
#

zaryalul why ults

fresh epoch
#

GOATS getting fucked bless BOSTON ❤

little silo
#

Is Alemao as good as Kellex?

minor flame
#

my opinion is another off tank

#

something that'll promote dive more

#

but isnt as

#

omniuseful

#

as dva is

azure harbor
#

goats will win in the end

echo quest
#

BU I believe

little silo
#

Dva is just too good

minor flame
#

dva just hasnt any competition

little silo
#

I want matrix to be removed

minor flame
#

no off tank has as much utility as her

echo quest
#

@little silo no Kellex has been very good this season

minor flame
#

you remove matrix

#

Dive becomes shit

#

Dva low tier

little silo
#

Its a bs ability

minor flame
#

and Spam Meta incoming

#

Dva existing is the only thing standing between us and a spam meta

nova wadi
#

also double sniper

minor flame
#

and teh counter to spam meta

#

bunker

little silo
#

Kellex has been good but we havent seen much from Alemao

minor flame
#

so unless you want Bunker and Spam tobecome meta

#

I rather not suggesting dva matrix removed

little silo
#

I just really hate dva

nova wadi
#

why would blasejust solo ult bumper?

#

wouldnt*

drowsy fulcrum
#

lmao Colourhex

azure harbor
#

zaryalul can't beat goats

drowsy fulcrum
#

33*

#

GOATS is different

little silo
#

Hero bans might just do the trick

night tusk
#

so boston want this

drowsy fulcrum
#

BOSTON

night tusk
#

pogchimp CLUTCHING

azure harbor
minor flame
#

Hero Bans will completely disable comps

little silo
#

Certain comps yes

nova wadi
#

we dont have enough heroes for bans

minor flame
#

when every comp and hero is dependent on certain key heroes

#

its easy to just disable comps

little silo
#

But with the amount of heroes in the game and in the future there will just be more

drowsy fulcrum
#

noo

little silo
#

Maybe ban and protect?

night tusk
#

lol eastern reff

dreamy cave
#

bruh

fresh epoch
#

omegalul Vancouvers Zarya got carried so hard 😂

drowsy fulcrum
#

the issue with banning for me is that some teams will get invalidated

dreamy cave
#

ok

minor flame
#

ban and protect then whats the point of having a ban

dreamy cave
#

so what kills me is

drowsy fulcrum
#

imagine banning Hammond against Chengdu

dreamy cave
#

they litterally had the point and the lead

#

they should have switched

nova wadi
#

just maybe no bans in general

#

thonk

little silo
#

Im just saying things without thinking rn

nova wadi
#

i figured

minor flame
#

what is this shitty comp

drowsy fulcrum
#

blase junk

#

elt's gooooo

minor flame
#

actual spam meta

little silo
#

ah yes sombra

minor flame
#

this is why

#

you dont go junk pharah

#

on control center

nova wadi
#

blase doom huhu

drowsy fulcrum
#

BLASE DOOOOOM

minor flame
#

is boston trying to be like Chengdu

#

no more like Shanghai

drowsy fulcrum
#

BOOSTIO

little silo
#

Boostio

nova wadi
#

BOOSTIO

drowsy fulcrum
#

WHAT IS THIS PLAT ELO GAME

azure harbor
minor flame
#

Fusions ball is

#

meh

dreamy cave
#

they couldnt help the doomfist get the pick

fresh epoch
#

brig is just a joke of a hero PepeHands

worn hornet
#

Blase did just more or less solo force most of Vancouver's ults at least right

little silo
#

what is the lucios purpose in this spread out dps comp

drowsy fulcrum
#

@little silo Kellex can do whatever he wants

little silo
#

just getting sound barrier?

minor flame
#

believe it or not

#

its not that open

worn hornet
#

sound barrier and booping people out of position

minor flame
#

aura reaches alot of people

#

in this small room

#

plus lucio utility is nice

#

I think Fusions Hammond is meh

dreamy cave
#

doomfist isnt getting as much off as he could

#

no reall suppord coming in

little silo
#

almost hacked beat

nova wadi
#

omegalul rck

minor flame
#

Blase cant do much as Doom in this

azure harbor
#

zaryalul 4-0 it is

minor flame
#

I dont get why

vale pond
#

!schedule

minor flame
#

he staying on Doom

#

what the fuck is this dumbass

#

doom play

vale pond
#

bot hello

nova wadi
#

what else u want him to play

little silo
#

what would you rather see him on?

minor flame
#

something not doom

#

Doom is just not good on this one

little silo
#

Junk?

nova wadi
#

great suggestion

dreamy cave
#

junk got bodied at the start

minor flame
#

no they already have pharah

#

why have junk

dreamy cave
#

theres already a phara

little silo
#

Yeah thats why I said that

azure harbor
#

@vale pond some problems with OWL site too, can't get schedule

dreamy cave
#

u want a genji?

#

a ash?

minor flame
#

genji

#

lmao

little silo
#

Maybe Tracer

dreamy cave
#

macree not gonna do nun?

minor flame
#

ashe is just worse mccree

nova wadi
#

all of those heroes are trash against goats

minor flame
#

and worse widow

somber yewBOT
#
Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 2 Week 3
undefined VAN vs BOS <:BOS:438251672633081857>

Apr 21st 15:00 EDT (19 minutes ago)

<:HOU:438251672821563402> HOU vs SHD <:SHD:438251672599527437>

Apr 21st 16:45 EDT (in an hour)

undefined HZS vs SFS <:SFS:438251672712642571>

Apr 21st 18:30 EDT (in 3 hours)

undefined ATL vs GZC undefined

Apr 21st 20:15 EDT (in 5 hours)

Developed with LOVE by MoonFire ·
nova wadi
#

really doom was the right pick

minor flame
#

you could do mei

nova wadi
#

mei omegalul

little silo
#

Mei would be better

minor flame
#

Mei is just way better for splitting them off

nova wadi
#

yes splitting them off when they can easily get another route

little silo
#

Maybe Hanzo?

uneven wren
#

mei is a good pick in lijiang interior

dreamy cave
#

doom was a good pick. its just he wasnt getting help on focusing targets

minor flame
#

I also think Fusion

nova wadi
#

really mei wouldnt have done a lot here

minor flame
#

Fusions

#

Hammond doesnt do much

nova wadi
#

@dreamy cave correct

minor flame
#

so he doenst really help the fact

#

that theyre being bodied

little silo
#

hes no ameng

nova wadi
#

so what u want fusions to go

#

rein?

minor flame
#

im not saying I want Fusions to go anything

#

im saying Fusions is shit

#

on hammond

#

ok at best

#

not really helping

#

Bischu

#

wtf

little silo
#

Bischu the gamer

dreamy cave
#

fusions is better on whinston. but if he went whinston he would have gotten bodied and kiled in a instant

worn hornet
#

#MetaShoes

nova wadi
#

correct

#

if u want this kind of comp u need hammond

#

if u dont, go goats 4head

dreamy cave
#

roadhog wount work cuz if he tried to heal he would have gotten brig stunned

nova wadi
#

hog in dive lul

little silo
#

Goats might just be the better call here

dreamy cave
#

orisa would get bombrushed cuz bumper is agro

little silo
#

surprising i know

minor flame
#

given that Fusions isnt a good hammond

nova wadi
#

aka

#

4-0

wind prawn
#

goats into titans = ff

minor flame
#

and theyre not coordinated enough

#

to focus targets

#

you can see Blase

#

is so confused

#

on who he wants to go for

#

cause no ones targeting anyone

dreamy cave
#

he should go for bumper and brig

#

as doom

minor flame
#

Colourhex and Blase are not coordinating together

nova wadi
#

trade fusions for a better tank

minor flame
#

Fusions is doing

little silo
#

Blase and Fusions are the only ones who really have to commit

minor flame
#

fuck all

#

hes doing shit

#

so Blase doesnt have Hammond help

#

rck isnt getting the hack

#

hes not getting impactful hacks for blase and fusion

dreamy cave
#

rck was getting hacks

#

he missed a few tho

#

on the lucio and the d.va

little silo
#

Idek what Colourhex was playing during that round

uneven wren
#

he missed the key hack on slime

nova wadi
#

was he getting important hacks tho

minor flame
#

not mostly

#

most of his hacks arent coordinated

#

Colourhex and Blase look like theyre in ladder

nova wadi
#

imo it was pretty obvious he wasnt gonna get slime like that

minor flame
#

basically

#

everyone is uncoordinated

#

for playing 3 dps dive

dreamy cave
#

he pushed up being agro

#

ded

fresh epoch
#

omegalul bumper is not the most intelligent player XD

little silo
#

you would think that playing goats for months would improve coordination and communication but apparently it didnt

minor flame
#

its Bumper

#

whatd you expect

little silo
#

Bumper can just do whatever he wants

minor flame
#

WHY

#

IS RCK

#

?????

little silo
#

He just has a weight on his W key

minor flame
#

Blase has to carry

nova wadi
#

fucking lol

little silo
#

He did but not hard enough

minor flame
#

rck really fucked that up

dreamy cave
#

bruh

#

wtf

uneven wren
#

Rck lost emp

dreamy cave
#

this is garbage

minor flame
#

he paniced

#

too hard

nova wadi
#

boston overrated

fresh epoch
#

wtf why is zarya so stupid high damage?

little silo
#

because shes charged

nova wadi
#

^

minor flame
#

thats what we call

#

a Charged Zarya

nova wadi
#

stay out of zaryas range 4head

fresh epoch
#

XD

#

thx

nova wadi
#

i mean fusions didnt kill Seominsoo and thats why he was still alive

azure harbor
#

just don't give her charge, ez clap

nova wadi
#

it was pretty stupid

idle beacon
#

what do you guys think .. will SHD win over outlaws ?

minor flame
#

why si Blase

#

trying to

#

concussion

#

out of a grav

#

lmao

nova wadi
#

goats smile

dreamy cave
#

they need to switch

little silo
#

Probably wanted to boop whoever tries to peek out to shoot him on point

fresh epoch
#

@minor flame he always ults too late with pharah. noobie.

minor flame
#

except he won them the point

little silo
#

Blases Pharah is putting in work

fresh epoch
#

duh i can see. it was still not agressive enough.

minor flame
#

aggressive enough he fucking face blasted the zarya

little silo
#

It won them the fight?

minor flame
#

basically

#

Blase carried 2 pushes

#

just 1 push he couldnt carry hard enough

#

cause rck panicked

#

and Colourhex

#

Colourhex was actually doing nothing

#

as Widow

fresh epoch
#

@minor flame omg.. what can u do with all shields matrix and zarya bubble?

nova wadi
#

switch

fresh epoch
#

of course he did not much.

little silo
#

he carried 2 pushes

minor flame
#

then why fucking stay widow

#

Colourhex didnt do shit

azure harbor
#

zaryalul NA ult

night tusk
#

Fusion 3k is not enough xd

nova wadi
#

fusion got a 3k when everyone died

little silo
#

because everyone was low after Blase barraged and took out 2

minor flame
#

I gotta say

#

rck and Colourhex and underperforming this series

dreamy cave
#

go right

little silo
#

Maybe the reverse sweep magic kicks in after this map

azure harbor
nova wadi
#

kill SMS PLS

minor flame
#

dont need to

#

hes not a threat

dreamy cave
#

jeez

nova wadi
#

if he didnt get hacked he was

azure harbor
#

well, they got 2 points at least

minor flame
#

what he just walks on point and get shredded lol

uneven wren
#

still overtime though

little silo
#

see he booped him back on point

minor flame
#

you either go out there and kill sms and lose

nova wadi
#

he had a healer with him, had grav and was full charged

#

wym

minor flame
#

or stay on point and contest

nova wadi
#

he def was a threat

minor flame
#

they were already gonna get point

little silo
#

not really

nova wadi
#

it wasnt guaranteed

little silo
#

It was 5v2

minor flame
#

pretty guranteed

#

plus they had sound barrier

drowsy fulcrum
#

come on boston

minor flame
#

going out there to kill SMS

#

wouldve actually lost them

little silo
#

reverse sweepable

drowsy fulcrum
#

oh yeah

#

actually

#

boston

#

lose this

#

and reverse sweep

minor flame
#

watch

little silo
#

thats their strat

minor flame
#

boston get 2 points

nova wadi
#

colourhex pepega

minor flame
#

and then vancouver get 2 points with 3 mins

nova wadi
#

5 mins

#

snowballing

little silo
#

Vancouver might just set another speed record

dreamy cave
#

"big fanbases"

nova wadi
#

interesting vanc comp

#

bumper sombra LOL

#

sad

minor flame
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Haksal Symm

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ok Boston loses

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5 mins

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alright

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they survived first push

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I forgot they didnt have

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damage

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so they cant burst down

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what is colorhex doing

little silo
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Lol Bumper

minor flame
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hes being shit

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hes not focusing any of the priority

mint slate
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bumper moment

minor flame
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sees bumper is behind him

nova wadi
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colourhex is so bad this series

minor flame
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DOENST BOTHER

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Colourhex has been shitty this series

azure harbor
minor flame
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my god

little silo
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nice demech

minor flame
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bumper lmao

little silo
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Magic bongo

minor flame
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hmm today i will shatter a orisa that hasnt fortified yet

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oh god oh fuck

azure harbor
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JzaryalulKE start

little silo
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i think he was going for the bastion there

minor flame
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still

dreamy cave
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PLEASE TAKE THE MAP

minor flame
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fortitfied orisa

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youre gambling alot

azure harbor
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smug 1-1

little silo
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Rck couldve eaten that so easily

azure harbor
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wow

minor flame
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even when Colourhex is so bad

night tusk
nova wadi
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LOL

minor flame
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theyre still losing this

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how the fuck

nova wadi
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stall comp

azure harbor
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zaryalul that tire

minor flame
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THE PEEL

idle beacon
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how did that tire not even broke brig's shield? Oo

minor flame
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HOLY SHIT

little silo
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Can the bunker push up

minor flame
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THEYRE WINNING

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WTF

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OH MY GOD

azure harbor
little silo
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WHAT

opal spruce
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WHY TDID THEY WAIT SO LONG TO HELP RCK BOSTON WTF

nova wadi
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LOL

minor flame
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THE PEEL IS SO STRONG

uneven wren
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CLUTCH

little silo
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They still won that

dreamy cave
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BRUHHH

drowsy fulcrum
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bullshit, what was RCK doing

queen drift
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fuck this team

nova wadi
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DID YOU SEE TWILIGHT

minor flame
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DID YOU SEE HOW THEY PEELED FOR TWILIGHT

queen drift
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that wasnt rcks fault

minor flame
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THATS SO GOOD

nova wadi
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HE JUST DIDNT DIE

queen drift
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the twilight peel is insane

minor flame
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THIS IS WHY TITANS IS ONE OF THE BEST

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THEIR PEEL IS INSANE

idle beacon
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i really don't like overhyped teams