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holy shit tobi saved tat
TOBI SAVIOUR
WINNABLE
ZACH LOL
this is possibly the best last hold ive seen
TOBIII
FUCKING TOBI
NOTE
SEOUL OMG
TOBI HUUUGE
tobi wtf
Tobi carried that so hard
TOBI DICKSLAPPIN FUEL GGGGG
dallas is actual garbage
That part of eichenwalde is so stupid
tobi plays
such a last hold
@echo quest everyone is garbage to you sit back
I mean on paper if zach had awareness he could just bash tobi when he comes to the bridge when he tries to boop
@trim shadow ? they got held for four minutes thats a choke lul
props to tobi
Quick frog
- Map location
against Doomfits
- Coaching
Idk why they took bridge so many times
boop changesop
tbh if you go castle you lose
like shit u know he will do that go from the left instead of the bridge
cause if you go castle
the payload is already far back
and castle is a even
smaller choke
you just get spammed down from castle
muuch easier to get picke
That part of B is defender heavy
actual plats in chat just go left loooooooooooool
Since respawns are closer
eh
thats some apex s2 tobi right there
Shd did it
*shouldve pulled out sombra
like 4 minutes lets go through bridge lul
lool zach wat
this is really dumb from dallas imo
oooo tats so smart
and nvm hes dead
Zach come on
he's earning the ree in his name with this cheese
it wasnt even good tho
@minor flame they tried it once in 4 minutes
coming from the worst brig
in the league
lmfao
they tried it once and got gravved to hell
Pretty sure zach had enuff time to adjust to tobi
going castle is just ez ult charge for seoul
And couldve Shield bash or whipshot tobi to keep him back
ironic how zach says how easy it is to just bas
Also doesnt help oge tried to under the payload shatter
ye they lose because they cant kill a lucio and fell for the same shit 3 times
Brig is a soft counter to lucio
deserved loss
in that scenario
Brig is the counter
too bad the brig cant do shit cause shes always on the front line dying
first
its not even a situation you need to counter, or even think about
Just shows zach as a brig
he threw away his ult too
you just dont have lucios flying into your team
when fits graved
your brig should have a singular brain cell
thanks zach effect retired cause favortism
not to let that happen
thats not true
its not something you coach because its just the simplest mechanical thing
its just a mechanical common sense
its all on zach
hes the one who wastes rallies
hes the one who gets picked easily
hes the one who doesnt counter the lucio
almost anything in his kit could have countered tobi there
bash? ye
whip? ye
melee fuckin probably
Is seoul winning?
And that says alot
yes
oge makes sense tho
they won
Seoul won
hes main tank
Yeahahdbdhdjskd
zach shouldnt
Dbjdjsjd
dont know why people thought dallas would win
they beat two lower tier teams
cause OGE is really good
Note is really good
Closer is pretty good
individually everyone is atleast good
Dallas has a solid roster
their team in general is pretty good
except zach
zach is just hot trash
For dps
everyone is fine expect zach
zach is the obvious player who doesn't mesh well with the team
Dallas could easily be top 5 in a dps meta
But as long as zach is on brig theyll never shine in 3-3
Zach is projectile? Soo maybe
Zach makes aKm look like a god
note is also a very good offtank arguably top 5 dva so
AKM to be fair looks like he put in a good chunk of work in the off-season.
I don't think he's a super top dps or anything.
But it looks like he put in some work.
not sure who 5th
They are equal at dva bur space is a monster on zarya
not in that order btw just listing good dvas
Elsa 😛 Because of Torb and Sym
mek0 is also meh on zarya
Elsa is easily the most flexible off-tank.
they dont have to play zarya
Note is prob best western dva
used to yeah
@pearl stratus hotba
And cant play the easiest hero in ow
Hotba is up there too.
man outdueled striker
I think Elsa has a slightly larger owl worthy pool though.
for like a minute lol
Not by much, but by a bit.
Hotba loons confused on Pharah when hes not on Nepal
Elsas flexibility is good
Very good
I think Hotba was so misused Season 1 it was a crime.
than got obilterated the next round
Oh Nevix too, if we want to be fair.
Hotba on Dva duty
ye
Seoul is straight throwing lol
Eh, I'd argue that S2 D'va has been more important than S1 D'va.
Its hard to make dva competitive againnst other tanks
Seoul and missing stage playoffs name a better duo
NYXL and choking.
Or I guess LW Blue and choking.
Everytime NYXL actually loses
I mean nyxl have two stage titles
Since you got to go back to the choking roots.
now who play this season>
Granted Jjonak was only listed with LW Blue for two months
?
holy crap tat nade
he wasnt part of the og squad
Two or so months after Pine.
Honestly
so idk how that counts
I lost any love for dallas
Mano played for afreeca he never played for Lw blue
?
He joined three months after their formation.
So it doesn't count.
Wasn't that the rules?
Dayfly and Rud would be OG.
With Jin, and Yesman.
Dayfly
Where even is dayfly now
Ardeont
Ark was Lw red
this push omg
Dayfly disappeared
Dayfly vanished
C9?
So quietly
yeah that's a C9

but a great push nonetheless
Who c9ed
Holy shit Mighty AOD had such good players
Nyxl choking is because mental boom unlike LW blue who had injuries
NYXL feels like they dont care at times
Ogeee fat fingerr
I wanna watch chengdu vs LAG

Chengdu wins 3-1
Busan junk hanamura*
nah
Did the casters just bus LAV?
Homestand is gonna be funny
Mid tier teams and london
Holy shit atlanta plays san fran and vancouver stage 3 week 1
MonkaS
listening to OWL and playing Paladins 
@drowsy fulcrum man of quality
uh how rare is it to get 100 owl tokens 3 times in 24 hours
Super good
I haven’t even gotten one token let alone 100
Idk what’s wrong with my account xd
rip
Haha y’all r some lucky ass mofos
i am honestly so confused tho
any bets before the match on who wins?
LAG
i say its a 3-2 gladiators
sounds right
glad 3-1
glad 3-2 its going to be glad win chengdu win glad win cheng du win glad win
no wait i do have glad 3-2
yxl is playing!
its weird but i think its going to be like that
3-1
Its over lag
I was teaching last game, couldn't watch lmao
teacher pog
😎
So on prediction using ladder data, I've got Charge finishing in last this stage.
better be doin your homework
Baconjack So good at tracer ( Wait he only has 20 minutes tf)
nah it's a part time job, part teacher part camp counseller. I'm relatively well liked lmao
teaching games design :^)
hells yeah man chill teachers best teachers
sad to say my grammar aint like that chief
lets go lag
i'm not an english teacher xd
baconjack should get a tracer out now
nah nah grammar school like the private school
yikes
yoikes
early c9
c9 needs OT
c9 again LUL
lmao
I love chengdu man
does no one wanna keep the point
damn my msg got deleted k
damn he just got Y E E T E D
chengdu are smart people but act like reta rds lul
Jiqiren needs to get here quick
wish they could focus sometimes and they would win more
@balmy wolf there's a reason that got deleted
chengdu really needs jiqiren
ameng is pog and all but jiqiren is better
can you don't use that as an insult thanks
i really love the gladiator
i said the r word no
theyve been really good this stage
mods pls
pretty sure Jiqiren is there
gladiators gonna be the first team to beat titans
baconjack needs to stop going on widow
he isnt
just watch
lul
I mean ameng was a bench boi in china
i always thought moira was strong in goats
i wondered why no other teams really went for one
bet you caster will try to never mention yangxiaolongs name
but gladiators <3
they just say yxl
moira is just a kill stealer tbh
Roar is dicking them
baconjack and yxl need to pick a hero and stick with it
god damn
Unluckyyy
come on man
shields up
shields down
jiqiren probably hella sad at home
when was the last time we got info on the various visa issues?
no idea
even sideshow had visa issues lul
Visa issues are taing a toll on Chengdu the most
not many players actually have had visa issues
mostly chengdu
yep
Chengdu cant beat Glads as much as I love them
You're Chinese and we don't trust Chinese players
its going to be 3-2
glad 0 loss
They should just move the league to a sanctuary city 
chengdu will get a map or two
They have the second best main tank china after guxue but have to play his sub
3-2
i have 200 tokens lol gonna buy that lucio skin
same but mercy
mercy lul
not a single death wtf
Busan is not Chengdus best map
i have seoul for every hero lol
its lag's worst
gotta support my hometown seoul
YEAHHH
it allows dps comps aswell
surefour POG
SUREFOR LETS GOO
the Canadian superstar
Predicted ladder for stage 2 is interesting: SFS, VAN, LDN, GLA, NYE, DAL, CDH, SHD 😄
FLA?
Sorry, GLA
seems legit but shanghai thats a so so
the keys are right next to each other ;p
no Shanghai has big potential
GLA > VAN
Shanghais dps is amazing
i get it but im expecting a slip up okay
Yeah, this is purely using if (current season position >)
its a hunch no reasoning but
VAN beats GLA considering GLA's current circumstances
what
Shanghai for stage? playoffs?
shaz is a good roadhog actually
yeah i just didnt expect
Yeah, that's all possible. For example, Atlanta play NYE again this stage, so that could go the same way as yesterday
jinmue decent
Yangxiaolong
wow.
WTF Jinmu
pronounciation
unreal
How did jinmu hit that shot
Why don't I get Pharah players like this on my comp teams? 😛
cuz ur not in top 500 xd
i really dont want glad to lose
uhm...
wait are you psh
my take
dont glad have a big streak or something
glads social media is cool
yeah hunters should just throw to keep that
nah sfs has best social media
They just EMP'd the Pharmercy.
???
Thats how much they hate Jinmu
dumbass emp
It was smart, tbh. its the biggest threat.
lmao melee
wow this schedule is crazy, some teams have already played 6 games this stage and Houston still have 5 games to play.
hydration is carrying
nah Decay was pressured so follow up was not possible for them
glad <3
HOU vs SHD, SEO, DAL, GZC, LDN. Interesting I've got them only beating GZC so they still finish 17th.
biggoose is great
hydation carried that with the mercy boop and also killing uting soldier of yxl and jinmu
decay just finished off
did they get a tick>
no
no
he said it
See.
ironic
they switching
Then you come back
Yangxiaolong is the melee character
And boom
s4 widow lets go
yxl pog
Baconjack quit for a year.
YXL quit for a year.
Leave quit for a year.
It's a trick for Chinese OW 😛
PUBG is aim train
left for pubg in 2018
i want to see surefore pop off again
then just joins owl in 2019 just casual chinese things
he has been ungood lately
Decay
Taiwanese too now. We need to be inclusive for Baconjack
lmaooo
s4 has gotten rusty
decay is 4x better rn
Decay carrying again
frick
ah rip
This is the part of Chinese OW I really love.
hopefully glads can hold better
And its ballsy, and stupid, and amazing.
Yangxiaolong short ranged and long range
It honestly just reminded me of the OWWC
When China would stall for like 2 minutes
And win
Yangxiaolong is such a strong hitscan dude
hes a contender for one of the better widow players
That year in pubg esorts is showing
inb4 Esca returns
yrs of pubg training
he is now the best player in the league
35% scoped crit
damn
The fuck.
idk he hasnt even dueled anyone
so has S4
YVELTAL
YVELTALLL
UBER TIER
UBER MON
LMAO
shaz on moira?
JINMU FIST
J I N M U
D O O M F I S T H E R E
damn
Jinmu is a god
i fucking love chengdu man
S4 got two picks they still lost
sustain too big
I needa go buy chengdu merch
they won a 4v5
I'd rather watch Chengdu lose than most teams win, tbf because if nothing else you get to see some cool shit.
Jinmu rolling out the chineese cheese
Jinmu taking Yangxiaolongs job
btw
this was possibly
the longest B fight ives een
2 mins of this
they were still on point
ameng down?
doesnt matter
JINMU FIST
???
ECHOECHOEChoechoecho
ok
who needs a micreophoen
LUL NA PRODUCTION
NA production still better than NA Overwatch 
imagine knowing
Hunters weakness is bunker
and not going bunker
actually no
they did
and still lost
cause Yveltal
would've been amazing to see this squad in S1
i want surefour to actually carry though
actual flex gods
map pool
Charge may be doing badly but hey
is too goats dependent
2cp is like Chengdus best map type
those wido head picks too
they dont just play for a team
they play for team
they play with themselves
jinmu is not best phara
Chaos is a ladder 😄
If chaos is a ladder then who's Arya with a Valeryan steel dagger?
jeez
oof
Chengdus focus fire is not good
he keeps ditching yveltal
no surefour = no win
Void better fill for the Dva
they should let hydration play dps
mercy getting constantly picked
Decay is tooo insane
i think decay is my new favorite player in the league
Well
hes gonna get player of the match
not like Chengdu can do much other than switch
Chengdus focus fire
is not really good
lmao gladiators suck at koth
but its fine cuz they good at everything else
he ws getting focused
Sadly they need a Winston for these moments
Only reason gladiators can do this, Hammond is ez ult charge if hacked
big goose is my favorite player
That's why they go Sombra
^
thy should had switched off of phara mercy
yeah Hammond is not a good pick for Eichenwalde B
ammeng can only really play hammond
its an downhill battle
^
How to get even ult charge with 3 supports, 2 tanks dva and Winston
Was thinking
Reaper might have worked
no
???
eh
That's sure four
yes
to try and cap point and use surefour reaper for close range damage
And against what heroes?
not much u can do much as sombra when ur team is getting hacked n killed.
they used it against valiant
Against which heroes
lmao
decay
Chengdu doesnt want to switch
thts the problem
they cant do anything with their current comp
on Eichenwalde B
EIchenwalde B doesnt favor Chengdus comp
at all
I mean ammeng cant do shit against sombra brig
so cant Yangxiaolong
the best thing you could do is 3-2-1
or be like Shanghais
3 dps
does shas play any kind of dps???
ohh
Chengdus inability to switch from this cost them
i thought that hydration n shaz both played some dps
this was the worst actual comp for Eichenwalde
decay on sombra is good asf, but i wanna see his genji now
he played it against seul if I remebered
Decays sombra is real good but
its just way easy to play sombra
against wht Chengdu ran
bacon has been pocketed
ammeng just fed
Not the best maps for Hunters
sad
Sombra is just way too strong against Chengdu
^
they aaaaaalmost C9d got it there
its hard to peel for this
dont know how ameng survived that long
when titans werent on the point
Kyo is not that good of ahog
shouldnt sub in Baconjack for Yangxiaolong
this map is just more favorable for Yang
I think they thought they would make it further
wait CDH didn't get the first point??
F
alright, thank gosh gladiators win
to run
ITS FREE REALISTATE
Instead of dps
I think Baptiste and Sombra are just too strong for Chengdu
ez clap
its way too easy to counter with those kind of heroes
when Chengdu runs these types of comps
6-0 naisu
the only map they lost was when they had surefour lmaoo
Gladiators is lucky
no
Because they had the right heroes to counter
what team does glad fight next
And Hunters can't play otherwise
its not luck if the other team only plays pharah and hammond
yxl > nyxl
It is
glads face boston as their last match
its luck when jinmu has proven his skills on pharah
It's lucky because Hunters can't play any other thing
no Glads is lucky that Baptiste and Sombra exist
and ameng having moments of brilliance
the 2 heroes
yes
are very clutch against Chengdu
thats how the game works, characyers exist
those 2 heroes are literally Chengdus biggest weakness
Baptiste enables Bunker
so hard
Sombra shuts down all the other dps Chengdu runs
big goose looks like he rides horses on the beach
he sounded so non-sealant
yes but your argument that they are lucky because certain characters exist is not great
decay looks evil
its chungdus problem if they are unable to deal with a certain composition
or more acuratly their coaches
@trim shadow he got the horses by the bay
It's not that they're unable to deal, they can't deal with it because they're limited in their hero pools
ultimately I think Baconjack shouldnt be in instead of Yangxiaolong but its not like it made much of a diff
going with Widow was a bad choice in junkertown
boston got shit on in stage 1 by nyxl sombra but they managed to fix it
its deCAY
@minor flame then its not luck, its the inflexibility of your opponents
let me say that
It's still lucky
everything then is lucky
Gladiators wouldn't win with that start against other teams
Strat*
Only because Hunters can't play differently
Yeah. Huge
nyxl is lucky that none of the teams that they have faced have been as good as them
Kuch kuch
I mean that isn’t luck
@karmic grotto then thats strong preparation
its more like
you want to play a comp that your opponents cant beat
these heroes are very clutch and niche
i used to like atlanta until they beat nyxl and now atlanta worst team
for this type of scenario
Atlanta wins 3-1, Dynasty defeated them
its like thse types of heroes specifically counter Chengdu

@mint slate ?
well actually it was because dafran left
@minor flame yes but that doesnt mean the gladiators got lucky with the win if they found a strategy that worked against the hunters
its not really a strat though
its just more like 2 niches heroes
really enabling shutdowns
@mint slate defran was good, babybay still hasnt quite figured out zarya and dogman is tilting everyone
@minor flame yes that can be your strategy
They just dove their back line
but anyways I do think that the map pool
Like sombra plus Winston against one solider
is just not for the type of team Chengdu is
which is your strategu @minor flame
Saw it on busan they focused the shit out of yxl
Using your logic
@swift moth explain how Hunters would have won with their current heroes against Gladiators assuming they still use Sombra
I think Chengdu shouldve had the 3 dps comps
1-3-2
1 hammond 3 dps
be like Shanghai
The Pharah doesnt work with the Sombra
should not sub in Baconjack
try Tracer/Sombra Yang
Who's gonna play the third dps?
Jinmu should try Doomfist
actually no
Elsa Sombra
Tracer Yang
Jinmu Doom or Pharah
elsa didnt do bad on sombra
Doomfist would have worked tbh
it wouldve but not in chengdus main comp
Or pray every day for jiqiren’s visa
Jiqiren is just Rein though
Winston omegalul
the maps werent goats focused
? @karmic grotto
???? What
Chengdu is hindered so much because ameng can’t play winston
you asked me to explain how hunters would have won if the gladiators used sombra?
Yes
oh ok
they wouldnt have been able to
And why not?
because their hero pools are not deep enough compared to the gladiators, and therefore that makes gladiators a better team
I think RUI should try and invest in Chengdu 3 dps 1 hammond
its the best counter to the weakness they have
Sombra and Bunker
RUI is their coach
lol pointed out that mans shoess
so they can make swaps
no they know other heroes
easier said= then done
loving the music
well then if they want to play a comp that doesn't work then it wont work