Mei would probably work here, tbh.
#esports-discussion
pearl stratus
queen drift
for who
pearl stratus
Shanghai if they didn't break the bunker
minor flame
both?
dreamy cave
to stall hard
pearl stratus
I'm thinking more just in a Mei Goats comp.
And getting her to the cart for freezes.
dreamy cave
then theres bliz
pearl stratus
400 HP wall just melts
queen drift
yea
tawny sigil
like ice in florida
minor flame
jinmu isnt in field??
median coyote
was he not in his own field?
tawny sigil
he was out of it
pearl stratus
He threw it forward
queen drift
im like 99% sure theres a bug with it anyway
minor flame
YOUNGJIN THREW HARD
tawny sigil
get off baptiste you have no idea how to play this
dreamy cave
omg
quasi stump
geguri holy shit
pearl stratus
3 D'va, 3 Zarya, 3 Brigs lmao
tawny sigil
geguri is poko'ing the fuck out
queen drift
do they have any hogs tho
minor flame
honestly
with the huge pool of flexibility and individual talent they have
shanghai can easily become a top tier team
dreamy cave
yesssss
minor flame
thats gg
queen drift
but theres such a huge gap
quasi stump
minor flame
shame
inland pawn
😦
dreamy cave
gg
queen drift
between the top teams and like.. 4th
tawny sigil
G eh G
pearl stratus
I didn't care who won.
south brook
sad but also happy
pearl stratus
Shanghai and Chengdu are my teams.
supple prism
i have been heavily wrong today
pearl stratus
So it was always going to be a win loss for me
minor flame
Chengdu needs some better ways
to get around Bunker
its obvious
that every team now knows
Chengdu is very weak to bunker
south brook
Very true
finite pagoda
hippity hoppity
get off my property
pearl stratus
I think this is more of a rarity though.
queen drift
man geguri has lost so much weight
pearl stratus
Shanghai actually has the dps strats to play like Chengdu.
south brook
Aww geguri
minor flame
the things is like
Justice played bunker
and even Chengdu
had some trouble facing it
dreamy cave
not trying to sound mean, but yeah i could probably never tell that was a girl if no one told me
pearl stratus
Nah you wanna know why Chengdu lost a map to Justice?
queen drift
bit of a yikes from me tbh
pearl stratus
They were playing back to backs.
And I gaurantee, 100%, they didnt' give a FUCK about Justice.
pearl stratus
And only prepped for Paris.
queen drift
[ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
pearl stratus
I don't disagree, but I think any team would have taken maps. Back to backs make you focus on one team more than the other.
And watching Chengdu dismantle Paris, you could see the prep was for that game.
queen drift
feelsGZCman
pearl stratus
Dding looks like a 35 year old business man.
finite pagoda
LAG
dreamy cave
idk. shanghai looking alot better
and LAG look like they could be tuff to beat.
itll b a hard fight i think
maybe a game 5
patent plinth
I'd like to see shanghai one more time before i made that call ya know
personally i haven't been keeping up with him
**them
lol
dreamy cave
if they play on kings row or junker we could see them take that map
dreamy cave
hunters were really great on anubis
minor flame
Junker Lijang and KR can be very restrictive and allow the dps to pop off without any fear
dreamy cave
one of there strong maps
pearl stratus
Btw.
As someone from Boston that win poster is cute AF.
And perfectly timed for the Marathon
dreamy cave
i really just wanna see competitive CTF
finite pagoda
I got zero league tokens for the entire day
upper niche
@finite pagoda I got none in the time I had it briefly paused and catching up, ie, not live.
fallen cloak
hold up
werent people calling chengdu play off material?
i dont think a team that gets a 3-1 from SHD is playoff material
queen drift
@pearl stratus have you seen the hangzhou vs Vancouver art? Hangzhou artist is amazing
idle beacon
lol krystal on bastion 😄
vagrant cargo
@fallen cloak why are u sleeping on Shanghai lol
trim shadow
Another sleepy day today is
Maybe fusion london will be fun
But its a 4-0 spitfire considering london can run dps now
Houston will get demolished
Dallas will win 3-1
Gla will 4-0 if guangzhou hasnt fixed there issues
trim shadow
Also how is that fucker saying chengdu isnt playoff potential when they still have 4 games to play
forest raven
Wrong place
vale pond
People can be sick at different rates
iirc dogman got it first too so he’s had more time to recover
was dogman playing?
trim shadow
He was playing in the playoffs last stage
So he mustve gotten sick after or during break
But the whole house got sick is the narrative
He was also playing against lav
nova wadi
surreal berry
you know how ppl are like, i can tell my grand children that (a rlly bad sports team, i dont follow sports) won the league, well I can tell my grand children that i saw Shanghai Dragons win the league (probably never gonna happen).
but at least i witnessed their first W
vale pond
Reign has crumbled idk what has happened
hidden vault
Do you guys think atlanta needs more koreans? Or less?
ruby pendant
lol, just need to find a member that fits with their roster and strats
pearl stratus
Atlanta just needs less shitty fans.
Thats 90% of their issue, calling it now.
Think about your average IQ on an Atlanta Reign fan.
Would you want to win for those people?
night tusk
So hunters lost...
pearl stratus
Like most people thought they would.
night tusk
I expected them to win. Shanghai last games was not that good
pearl stratus
You mean against.. NYXL and LAG? Where they played really well.
night tusk
OWL highlight just showed kingsrow..
pearl stratus
It's not like they got free passes against Florida / Washington.
Shanghai has a pretty bad schedule for Stage 2.
Best you can expect out of them is 4-3.
Because they play Shock last.
Though they scrim Shock, so if anyone can upset it'd be them.
night tusk
Even it's NYXL and Lag. They did not look that incredible.
pearl stratus
What?
Did you actually... watch the games? LAG they fucked up on the Junkrat stuff.
But against NYXL they played insanely well. No map was given away.
pearl stratus
Yeah you're thinking of them fucking around with the Junkrat stuff vs. LAG, which was sad. But they played insane vs. NYXL.
night tusk
Did you watch vs hunters?
pearl stratus
Yeah.
night tusk
Mostly dps comps?
pearl stratus
They played Chengdu more than Chengdu did.
From Shanghai, yes.
Chengdu got pushed back onto 3:3 a lot.
Because Shanghai was outdps'ing them like crazy.
night tusk
Ye casters mentioned they kinda outplayed their dps
night tusk
Jimnu aggrl genji
pearl stratus
Jinmu's Genji was actually solid, but Diem Hanzo and Dding Pharah gap closed way too much.
When Shock says they're scared of your Pharah, you've got the better Pharah.
And Sinatraa and Super both said Dding is just scary on Pharah.
night tusk
Expected that. Maybe it's something like shanghai can beat hunters because they play this kind of comp more often. While a team like gladiators could struggle vs them?
pearl stratus
Yeah, Shanghai was using DPS comps in Stage 1 more than most teams.
So its not a radical shift for them.
Also between Diem, Dding and Youngjin they have almost everything covered.
Geguri even played for a bit, her Junkertown bombs were legit.
Also Gamsu is probably a top 3-4 Ball in the league, which was nice to find out.
night tusk
Like how seoul could win games but not from london. Maybe hunters weakness is shanghai? Idk i did expect shanghai to do good but after 2 losses I expected hunters to be the only team to make it to stage playoffs
pearl stratus
Chengdu did go 2-0, but they didn't go 2-0 versus "great" teams.
So its a grain of salt thing.
Beating Paris, okay, good.
Beating Washington? College teams can do that.
night tusk
Paris won from ATL and than get rekt 4-0 so you could think that it is not a trash team
pearl stratus
Atlanta lost to LAV.
So you could also think its because Atlanta is now a trash team 😛
night tusk
Since charge is out for sure and I guess spark and shanghai will not make it. Hunters be the first chinese team
pearl stratus
LAG, Hangzhou, London, LAV.
All four games are winnable.
LAG and London will be the hardest two games.
I expect them to lose to LAG if LAG plays their Surefour, Decay, Hydration roster.
Hangzhou looks better with Krystal playing, so if they keep that up Hangzhou should be good.
Shanghai still has playoff potential though
night tusk
Still their last point should not be a win lol
pearl stratus
They're 1-2 right now.
vale pond
Atl has been playing like dogshit
night tusk
If idk did not got that boop
pearl stratus
Next games are Florida (Win), Houston (Win),. Washington (Win), Shock (Loss).
vale pond
Complete reverse of before
pearl stratus
So Shanghai should be all accounts finish up 4-3.
night tusk
!schedule
pearl stratus
Which could put them in playoff bracket.
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
pearl stratus
Or close to.
I could see them struggling with Houston out of any of the teams, but I doubt it.
night tusk
I did not watch defiant last game, can they win today?
pearl stratus
Diem + Dding outclass Houstons dps very hard.
Eh.
Depends on if they slapped the shit out of Im37 yet.
Because while his DPS is on point he's a major liability on Brigitte, and its really obvious that Stellar isn't there when he's on her.
If they've started working on his armor pack usage and stuff, they should be fine
But this will be Dallas first game in the meta.
Wait, second.
No confused them with Boston
This is there first game.
So we haven't seen them play the DPS comps yet.
So they're a bit unknown.
night tusk
Oge said on stream he does not care about anything besides he does not want to lose from Outlaws in the Dallas home matches
pearl stratus
If they're even half competent Dallas make playoffs as a gimme.
They have a ridiculously easy schedule this stage currently.
Toronto -> Paris -> Vancouver -> Seoul -> LAV -> Houston -> Florida.
Unless some teams shape up thats a lot of easy wins in there.
night tusk
Seoul needs to stop throwing
pearl stratus
They barely lost to LAG, got stomped by Vancouver.
I'd wait till we see them play some mid-teams (starting with Dallas)
They could still be fine.
night tusk
Wonder why they did not play fissure
pearl stratus
Lots of reasons potentially.
Lunatic Hai historically doesn't put up with a lot of bullshit, so if tempers were going etc. Marvel could be a better fit for their current roster without Fleta, etc.
LH benched the best genji in the world for an apex finals just to show him they didn't need him and he wasn't that important.
They do that kind of shit.
night tusk
Gido was not even that good
pearl stratus
They literally benched him for having an ego.
night tusk
Like he played and gets MVP in finals
pearl stratus
I'm sad because WhoRu started doing the same shit on Philly.
So he obviously hasn't learned
night tusk
Seouls last match
I can't say seoul is bad because other teams are in the kind of same level
But titans looked clean af
How a slept lucio was saved or how they staggered the dva. Even if they lost a map. They really looking like the best rn
I don't see NYXL winning from them
trim shadow
@pearl stratus slighty offended but the problems for atlanta have always been there there inability to protect pokpo finish teamates and make good in game decisions like basically not immediately switching to quad dps and let ksf have feee reign over the open section of point A junkertown its looking like dafran leaving has impacted the team and casores and company are failing to intergrate babybay and even then babybays zarya is matching dafrans by being incosistent alot fat fingering gravs and not reseting when when its time to reset
As a die hard atlanta fan not a fan cause kodak or dogman is there no a atlanta bread and born atlanta native WE S U C K
Pokpo still cant communicate correctlyp
Dogman spends half the map dead
Erster died first on 90% of atlanta’s teamfights on busan
Its soe said
atlanta needs to be arrested for impersonating a playoff team
Twitter
BUTT LOAD OF ASS
Cox enterprises or whatever atlanta esports company
Fuck you
night tusk
flex support situation ?
trim shadow
how is a off tank mad about flex support
Nyah I hate dogman and kodak
angry korean intesifies
night tusk
what is he talking about
pearl stratus
It could be as simple as dogman being a loud mouthed twat embarrassing him and not wanting ti play with that type of person. Culture clash.
It's why skill doesn't always mean shit. You can be the best in the world but if no one wants to work with you or you don't mesh you're useless.
Drop Dogman and Kodak. Try to pick up Aid from Toronto. Solve all problems.
vale pond
dogman isnt even a twat lol
idk what you have against him
getting rid of him solves nothing
pearl stratus
He's a low to mid Zen with an insanely loud mouth that shit talks his own team when they lose, even with his bad trans cost him games. If Daco is upset with flex support as rumored my guess is he's why because it's a massive culture clash with how he acts.
If replacing him can fix cultural issues, and since Aid is arguably better (especially in ult usage) it actually fixes a lot.
Sleepy would be an even better pick up for them, but I don't know if that fiscally makes sense.
pearl stratus
Dogman is just better than Kodak, too.
vagrant cargo
Also i can understand why U would disslike dogman
pearl stratus
I like Kodak, but he's not a strong Zen.
vagrant cargo
I disagree actually Atlanta Looks better with Kodak in
Kodak is mechanically far above dogman, but i think he doesnt really fit the Team
pearl stratus
Kodak has better trans usage, but he generates them so slowly.
vale pond
dogman is better
pearl stratus
Compared to Dogman, he generates Trans noticeably slower. Probably 10-15 seconds.
pearl stratus
Dogmans issue is he premature trans like he's a virgin on prom night.
vale pond
looking at who is talking
pearl stratus
It was the same problem he had in contenders.
vagrant cargo
Lmaooo
vale pond
kodak's transes are late
fierce tendon
I miss dafran 
vale pond
also dogman's hero pool is deeper
vagrant cargo
No
vale pond
yes lol
pearl stratus
Thats why I didn't say to replace Dogman with Kodak 😛 I said to replace them both with Aid or Sleepy.
vale pond
ana
vagrant cargo
Kodak can Play ana
vale pond
just well informed
vagrant cargo
He even played her in contenders
vagrant cargo
That doesnt mean Kodak cant play her
vale pond
k but dogman is still better lol
vagrant cargo
Also the Zen Part is wrong, individualy Kodak is better imo he just doesnt click well with Atlanta as a Team
vale pond
see houston
vagrant cargo
And dogmans Trance usage
vale pond
kodak is worse
pearl stratus
Neither one of them are good for the team though.
vale pond
kodaks trance usage is awful
vagrant cargo
They should trade both
pearl stratus
Especially if you're benching your better off-tank.
vale pond
they should keep dogman
pearl stratus
Put Dogman back to a two-way
vagrant cargo
Kodaks Trance usage is way better than dogmans lol
vale pond
no lol
pearl stratus
Keep him in Contenders.
vale pond
dogman is better than kodak
vagrant cargo
Dogman is even worse than Kodak
vagrant cargo
Eh disagreed
vale pond
funny how kodak has played 90% of the time in this losing stage
vagrant cargo
Yesterday they lost against Valiant with dogman
queen drift
!schedule
vagrant cargo
On every Map
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
vagrant cargo
And 90 percent what are u on
vale pond
they got killed by boston the instant dogman swapped out
vagrant cargo
Dogman got subbed in for Map 5 against Boston and they still lost
vale pond
kodak played the whole game against london they lost
dogman got subbed into a losing game
vagrant cargo
And that wasnt kodaks fault kodak played pretty good in both sets
queen drift
One day you’ll realise that they are both equally inconsistent
vale pond
kodak transed late and cost them eichenwalde
vale pond
no lol
vagrant cargo
Kodak should Switch the Team cause He doesnt Work with Atlanta
pearl stratus
Sleepy is a huge upgrade, but expensive.
vagrant cargo
Trading both is smarter
vale pond
daco also benched himself when kodak was playing explain that
queen drift
He’s not what
vale pond
cultural clash my ass
pearl stratus
If you're an Atlanta fan and you want to keep people like Dogman you just want your team to lose.
queen drift
What bit you arguing
pearl stratus
Long and short of it.
vagrant cargo
Idk how U can think dogman is better when he uses trance when 3 people are down
vale pond
kodak literally does that
vagrant cargo
Eh
pearl stratus
Yeah so thy're both shit.
vale pond
dogman had one bad game kodak had many more
pearl stratus
They're contenders players pretending they can be in OWL.
vale pond
idk why you hate them
vagrant cargo
Dogman Had several Bad performances
pearl stratus
They have huge glaring inconsistencies that should have been coached out
And weren't.
Reset, get a real Zen and go again.
vagrant cargo
I dont hate dogman
queen drift
This is like arguing who’s better Arhan or iddqd
vagrant cargo
Idc about him as a Player
pearl stratus
Arhan.
vagrant cargo
Arhan
pearl stratus
He kills air molecules.
vagrant cargo
xd
vagrant cargo
Cause He doesnt Work with the system of Atlanta ye
vale pond
and just a worse player
vagrant cargo
I dont know how U can think that
His mechanics are befter
Also u dont know Shit about their comms
pearl stratus
Right now the only other team that needs a Zen is Houston, and they wouldn't pick up either and can't.
pearl stratus
So they're both useless.
vagrant cargo
So did i
pearl stratus
And need to go back to Contenders.
vagrant cargo
How do U wanna know their comms
queen drift
Idk I think dogman might be an improvement to Rawkus
vagrant cargo
Bro
pearl stratus
Skill wise, probably.
vale pond
you can see who talks
vagrant cargo
U dont know what they are calling
pearl stratus
I don't think he'd be even slightly cohesive.
trim shadow
It could be dogman and kodak dont communicate good
vagrant cargo
Maybe dogman calls a Ton of useless Shit?
vale pond
atl has shit comms altogether apperantly
pearl stratus
Also saying things doesn't mean they're saying anything useful.
vagrant cargo
U dont know that
pearl stratus
Until you can hear the comms thats just a retarded argument.
vale pond
dafran was the shotcaller but he is gone apperantly
vagrant cargo
Thats an absolute retarded Argument
queen drift
Like 4 people target call
vale pond
they should scrap codak
trim shadow
None of my boys on atlanta are known shotcallers
vagrant cargo
And dogman is Bad
trim shadow
So it had to be dafran
pearl stratus
I still say just drop Dogman to a 2way.
vale pond
masaa is supposed to be good at shotcalling and from stream I agree
pearl stratus
You can fix his issues in Contenders.
vagrant cargo
Just wait until they Pick Up Ajax omegalul
queen drift
I’d trade Kodak, make dogman 2way or trade him as well. Pick up Sleepy
vale pond
I'd keep dogman
pearl stratus
Sleepy or Aid. Aid is probably super cheap since he's permabench.
vale pond
even if they somehow got a better zen
trim shadow
You can fix dogs issues and over aggresiveness by benching him and letting him scrim and not embarass me and the die hard atlanta fans
vale pond
hed still be the backup
queen drift
Is AID na or kr?
pearl stratus
He's Korean but speaks english, iirc.
vale pond
throws away trance in one game
vagrant cargo
In several Games
vale pond
dOgMaN bAd gUys
vagrant cargo
:p
vale pond
in one game.
vagrant cargo
No lmao
vale pond
kodak has done it more
vale pond
erster or pokpo die first more
vagrant cargo
If u deny that U are literally Just fanboying hard rn
trim shadow
It did all last stage
vagrant cargo
U are :p
trim shadow
Erster and masaa are the only consistents
pearl stratus
Doggystyle for Dogman.
vale pond
"your argument is invalid bc I said so"
pearl stratus
Dogman is worse for the team, even if he's better.
vagrant cargo
On Atlanta? Ye cause He doesnt fit their system
vale pond
what
vagrant cargo
Dogman is toxic
pearl stratus
Worse for the team.
vagrant cargo
And individualy worse
trim shadow
Kodak honestly should get perma start
vale pond
individually better
pearl stratus
People seem to think skill is the only thing that matters.
trim shadow
Fix his trans timings
vagrant cargo
Even If he Works better with the Team
trim shadow
Let him be aggresive
vale pond
kodak is worse lol
pearl stratus
But if the team plays like shit because of your presence, you're worse for the team.
queen drift
Pokpo, Daco, Erster are all consistent
vagrant cargo
Just compare their PoVs
trim shadow
Dog at this point is the small dick with a ego on our team
vale pond
the team doesnt play like shit bc of his presence
pearl stratus
Or if you can't play your best roster because of you, you're the problem.
queen drift
Masaa isn’t as consistent but still a lot better than the others
vagrant cargo
Pokpo is consistenzly inting as rein
vale pond
they got 4-0ed by london when kodak started
trim shadow
Dog was litterally screaming at the crowd to stand up and get hyped
vale pond
they started losing against boston when kodak lpayed
vagrant cargo
That wasnt kodaks fault
trim shadow
AND ENDED UP LOOSING TO A 0-8 TEAMMMM
vagrant cargo
In both scenarios
trim shadow
REEEEEE
vale pond
how do you know dogman is the reason he is gone
vagrant cargo
Insiders
queen drift
Valiant aren’t a bad team tho ..
pearl stratus
Rumor mill is pure flex support frustration.
trim shadow
Twitter
pearl stratus
So you can go down to the knot all you want.
vagrant cargo
Several people say that
vale pond
since he didnt play the game dogman didnt play
that makes 0 sense
it doesnt align with what actualy has happened
vagrant cargo
Also Babybay was the Main reason London stomped then
pearl stratus
Okay buddy.
trim shadow
The main theory is both dog and daco were sick
vagrant cargo
Again
vale pond
@trim shadow thats the believable theroy
trim shadow
Soo daco obv has problems with either dog or kodak
pearl stratus
Self destruction is always fun to watch as a spectator, anyway.
vagrant cargo
Atlanta should Just get rid of both flex supps
vale pond
daco could just still be sick
pearl stratus
I'm waiting for his next twitter rant.
queen drift
Daco?
vale pond
dogman supposedly god sick first
vagrant cargo
Kodak to Paris=>good Backup and talented Player, that can Develop with their Coaching staff
Dogman 2 way so they can fix his issues
Ez
vale pond
and then everyone else caught it bc team house small space
pearl stratus
"THIS ENTIRE TEAM SUCKS I'M IN ELOHELL BECAUSE OF MYTEAMMATES OR ELSE I'D BE 3-0" incoming from Doggy.
trim shadow
No keep kodak trade dog to philly or san fran just anywhere
vagrant cargo
Daco has Problems with dogman
vale pond
the guy is a giant meme
pearl stratus
Because he got chewed out for it.
vale pond
got chewed out for a joke k
trim shadow
At this point watching dog not do shit all game is pissing me off
vale pond
the guy is toxic as a joke
trim shadow
Dog is lower then kodak in zen stats LAST I CHECKED
pearl stratus
It wasn't a joke. He ranted like a twat, because he lost then got called out.
vagrant cargo
Kodak is talented rusha but not a good Pick for Atlanta
pearl stratus
And deleted his tweet.
trim shadow
In most of the major catergories
vagrant cargo
He doesnt Work with them
pearl stratus
You can't actually be this ignorant.
trim shadow
Healing discord damage etc
vagrant cargo
Rusha i dont Talk about the trashtalk
pearl stratus
Like you have to try to be that dumb at this point.
vale pond
ah yes the good old reverting to insults
trim shadow
No it isnt
pearl stratus
Its not even insults. You're just actively being obtuse, and very very uneducated.
vale pond
here comes the 'you're retarded for disagreeing with me'
vagrant cargo
Bro
vale pond
of course
vagrant cargo
U are doing that
trim shadow
But u cant trash talk and lose to lav
vagrant cargo
The entire time
trim shadow
lose to philly 3-1
vale pond
I am not the one saying"youre actually obtuse"
vagrant cargo
U are saying i am a hater when ur Argument is "Kodak is Bad"
trim shadow
Thats when ur a toxic person on the team
vagrant cargo
That makes No sense
vagrant cargo
Nah i have at least Backup
pearl stratus
Insulting would be posting something like this:
vagrant cargo
And reasoning
vagrant cargo
So did i
vale pond
I just think dogmans are fixable
vagrant cargo
I never Said that Kodak is perfect
vagrant cargo
In fact i say Atlanta should get rid of him
vale pond
and deserves to lose
vagrant cargo
Because Kodak doesnt fit their system at all
vale pond
I think that dogman is more coachable
and that his issues are easier to address
which is why he should stay
vale pond
dogman has actually improved
vagrant cargo
Dogman is bot more coachable
vale pond
he dipped agin this week
vale pond
k you dont like him I get it
vagrant cargo
And has a Bad work ethic
vale pond
complained once
vagrant cargo
No idc about him
vagrant cargo
That are actually known things
vale pond
rumors mean nothing
vagrant cargo
Many people say that lol
vale pond
who is many people
vagrant cargo
Ppl like Immortal for example
I dont give away a source but that Immortal tells a Lot of true Things is Common knowledge
If u are a bit educated
And in Touch with the scene
vale pond
uh huh
I'd have to disagree but k
to each their own
realistically they wont trade either player
daco is more likely still sick and will get better
vale pond
says one fucking person
vagrant cargo
Several
trim shadow
At this point the daco being sick is bullshit
vale pond
atlanta could be protecting his privacy
vale pond
maybe
vagrant cargo
Idk why U want to defend dogman this badly
vale pond
whatever is happening it doesnt match up with him refusing to play against london
pearl stratus
Also it would be ironic if Daco refused to play over him.
Since Dogman did it in Contenders.
vagrant cargo
Especialy as an atl Fan
pearl stratus
People just don't care because he refused to play with MykL, who everyone hates.
vale pond
I would believe you if he had played against london
trim shadow
Dog was coaching the shock last season?
vale pond
but he didnt
trim shadow
It makes sense now
tawny sigil
!schedule
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
vagrant cargo
Daco didnt play cause the internal issues are much much deeper than that
But the Kodak dogman debate is basically what started the whole Thing
vale pond
if its a simple matter of I wont play with dogman then they'd play him into london
with kodak
vale pond
if its not just that then why is it suddenly all dogmans fault
vagrant cargo
But rn Daco Just refuses
vale pond
to play period
trim shadow
It really fucking sucks how some internal issues are kept under wraps
vale pond
then he's being petty
trim shadow
And we have to hear from insiders
vagrant cargo
Cause dogman literally is toxic, worse than Kodak and has a Bad work ethic
vale pond
I disagree but ok
tawny sigil
first match of the day might not be that bad, what are the channces that it's a 4-0, its kinda weird when 2 good team end up facing each other and its super 1 sided
vagrant cargo
Yeah rusha i can only Imagine Ur pain
vale pond
It'd be nice tho for a team to be transparent yeah tbh'
trim shadow
My painn
vagrant cargo
Cause Back in Stage 2 with Valiant
trim shadow
I watched atlanta break on busan
vagrant cargo
I wasnt in Touch with the scene
trim shadow
Litterally fucking break
vale pond
idk what happened
trim shadow
I didnt even sleep properly
vagrant cargo
I know that U dont know what happened
vale pond
they need to say something because my respect for the team is dwindling
trim shadow
Andd die hard fans like mee are sufferinggg
vale pond
and masaa isnt gonna hold me to it much longer lol
trim shadow
Because cox and seph and casores WONT SAY SOMETHING
Everyone is wondering why atlanta is being secretive about dacos situation
If hes sick SAY IT
Guangzhou told the caster happy was silk
vale pond
which team was it with the two players refusing to play w eachother
pearl stratus
There's a few.
vagrant cargo
Several
pearl stratus
Carpe pretty much refuses to play with Fragi.
vagrant cargo
Yeah
vale pond
oh yeah that one
pearl stratus
Fissure had his LAG thing.
vale pond
at least they're transparent about it
pearl stratus
I mean we got it from Avast.
vagrant cargo
Philly?
pearl stratus
Not super transparent.
vagrant cargo
Philly is not transparent about it lol
pearl stratus
Fissure and the LAG thing was relatively transparent after the fact.
pearl stratus
They probably still don't.
But they need to, so they're trying to make it work.
Either way this isn't unheard of in sports, albeit how stupid it is.
trim shadow
And it clearly worked cause atlanta broke
pearl stratus
Leveon Bell literally just diva'd an entire season of the NFL.
trim shadow
Ive never seen a team full hold on blizz world
vale pond
oof
pearl stratus
Also soldiers new skin is fucking weird.
vale pond
looked like a ladder match
pearl stratus
I just want every day to be Shanghai vs. Chengdu day.
trim shadow
Its like atlanta stopped communicating
pearl stratus
Because that match was fun af to watch.
trim shadow
and started smashing there keybords
pearl stratus
Also learning that the SF Shock are scared of Ddings Pharah was interesting.
vale pond
shanghai I'm sad I missed
trim shadow
I would be scared if dding and diem were on the same team
vale pond
shanghai has a shitton of dps talent
vale pond
remember when people shat on them last stage
trim shadow
Along with geguri gamsu as a top 5 tank line
pearl stratus
Because Youngjin has an insane pool too.
vale pond
geguri is fantastic
pearl stratus
Geguri is currently a liability though.
trim shadow
And luffy and coma also top 5 support line
pearl stratus
Because her dps flex is bad.
vale pond
geguri is a wee bit of a zarya onetrick
trim shadow
And youngjin exist
pearl stratus
Geguri has a strong D'va, Orissa and Ball too.
trim shadow
Lez be honest
pearl stratus
Gamsu kept up with Ameng in the Hamster duel last night.
vale pond
sintatraa intensifies
pearl stratus
It was great to watch.
vale pond
sinatraa*
can masaa transfer to another team so I dont have to get a headache over atlantas autism
who needs a good lucio
pearl stratus
The biggest issue is their current comps make Geguri and Diem the swap.
And losing Diem hurts.
Honestly? No one right now.
Mayhem? lol
pearl stratus
Boink has been really good.
vale pond
just the rest of his team sucks ass
pearl stratus
Even Rawkus isn't shit, they just need to keep a leash onhim.
If Rawkus plays into his team, he's fine.
vale pond
~~j 
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trim shadow
Honestly
vale pond
feed king
trim shadow
Im with endo
pearl stratus
Jake so far this season has been one of the best western dps overall,honestly.
trim shadow
Dog has togo
pearl stratus
Minus his Brigitte.
vale pond
I want to see masaa shine
vale pond
idec I just am a masaa fanboy
pearl stratus
But we've seen him play Pharah, Soldier, Junk, McCree, Sombra, a few others.
And he's actually stepped up to be a solid flex dps.
I actually enjoy Jake + Danteh.
vale pond
inb4 atlanta starts playing astro bc masaa refuses to play with pokpo or something
pearl stratus
Linkzr seems to have fallen flat though
vale pond
linkzr is just outpaced
pearl stratus
I think Houston is doing okay with what they have, since they can't actually change anything.
trim shadow
Picking up danteh after tracer went outta meta
pearl stratus
They're being sold - so they can't spend any money, etyc.
trim shadow
Houston should go get tviq and sub him in for control and 2cp
Gamestop is picking them up?
pearl stratus
Houston literally can't spend money 😛
One of their largest investors doesn't want to be in e-sports anymore.
vale pond
if we want to talk about shit team management mayhem jesus
pearl stratus
Because they overestimaed the timeine on return on investment.
trim shadow
Whos there investor?
vale pond
gamestop right?
trim shadow
No they just signed a partnership
pearl stratus
Texas E-Sports.
trim shadow
Houston and dallas
pearl stratus
They're the majority owner in Optic.
They're not selling Houston specifically.
Just getting out of Optic.
So Optic is basically on a monetary freeze.
trim shadow
inb4 misfits sells the mayhem
pearl stratus
TEsports is asking somthing like 150million for their stake.
trim shadow
Optic hasnt done anything good in esports since mlg halo ended
150 million?
What the fuck
pearl stratus
They've caught a lot of bullshit though.
Infinite e-sports/optic is a big name still.
They handled their publicity of dropping their other investor really well.
The dude who attacked his wife with a hammer.
trim shadow
Nadeshot needs to buy optic
Even tho he owns 100 thieves
And i doubt hell do that
Cause the cod city leauge is coming
and hell want a spot in that
pearl stratus
That shit was bananas. Dude attacked his wife with a ball pin hammer, and they just cut ties almost instantly.
pearl stratus
Deep Space Ventures dude.
`She told police that Hays awoke her at around 4am, walking into her bedroom with a hammer in hand and assaulting her with it and other items which he threw at her.
After police searched the premises, they found the bedroom door broken and a hammer stuck in the wall above the bed.`
That was when GGEA didn't get their roster in.
Because they couldn't as they were trying to figure out investment and financing stuff.
And Blizzard denied their extension.
queen drift
Soldier ?
jagged crater
Formal Ashe when
cedar drum
Are this week's games happening in Dallas Fuel's home arena?
Wasn't this the Ultimate weekend?
south brook
Nope I think it’s the 27/28
cedar drum
Oh?
I thought that's why fuel has games back to back
On the weekend
Cause it's their weekend
Now it makes more sense why no one is talking about the first ever road matches this week....cause these aren't road matches. :p
south brook
jagged crater
Wasn't it supposed to be today
south brook
^
cedar drum
Also...want Fuel supposed to be picking up another player
I remember when note was announced
There was news that they have one more player announcement and a coach announcement
jagged crater
Did they change it from 13-14 last minute?
limber pine
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DAY 3 MATCHES
12:00 PM PST: 
London Spitfire vs Philadelphia Fusion 
1:45 PM PST: 
Vancouver Titans vs Houston Outlaws 
3:30 PM PST: 
Dallas Fuel vs Toronto Defiant 
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night tusk
lol this is awesome
tawny sigil
london phil, whats the favorite here?
opaque cargo
everything else I got wrong, not only the winner but also the differential
night tusk
I expected hunters to win..
and I predicted 4-0 titans lol that one was right
expected nothing from charge
60k viewers on saturday
tawny sigil
bdosin fell by accident?
magic birch
carpe sucks now
tawny sigil
oh they increased the kbps on twitch
magic birch
i support guxue
tawny sigil
stream doesnt look like shit anymore
night tusk
no fragi no win
tawny sigil
NON NEGOTIABLE!
inland pawn
2cp zzzzzzzzzz
tawny sigil
Whats the hp on bubble?
night tusk
No Fragi No Win
tawny sigil
space filler
karmic grotto
Why metal?
tawny sigil
thats not metal that's rock
magic birch
philly new main tank when
dreamy cave
did the matches start yet?
i thought it was going to b later?
it did
dang
and this is a good match too.
tawny sigil
You cant play chess with checker rules, Phili!
tawny sigil
my god they all just woke up mid match "oh shit i just woke up, we're in the middle of a match?"
spring heath
big oof
minor flame
fury lol
dreamy cave
damn, he swatted that fly
balmy wolf
gesture feeding lol
dreamy cave
"here, partake of my body"
minor flame
????
dreamy cave
panic ulted to death
minor flame
and then went on from there
poko was gonna have bomb
so you gotta take him out first
opal spruce
a draw? on 2cp? im shocked
minor flame
then go on from there
outer zenith
Fumbled.
tired mango
that's actually insane. holding a single tick on first point for 5 minutes vs an OWL team is absolutely nuts
tired mango
https://reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/bctkmh/overwatch_league_2019_season_stage_2_week_2/ not pinned for some reason @karmic grotto
tawny sigil
am i the only one getting sound glitches
inland pawn
Chengdu Spitfire 
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