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I hope they know that
Still impressed that spark taked that one lol
Krystal has so much potential for Spark
Hangzhous chant should he WEEBS OUT
they should put him on main roster
Their quick dps swap and back to goats saved them aswell
wouldnt it be weebs in since their whole logo/team name is an anime meme
How about Poohs out?
welp they gotta face charge and then shock after that
Boston: i have you cornored theres no where to run
Hangzhou: activates ultra instinct
ugly sloppy players... need to start using that line in comp
nobody expects a support to deep flank like that
Idk was spawn camping right
yes
Carry!
yeah he was right outside the arch and was able to come up behind hex
booped right into the pit
screaming
Same as seoul match lol
I want to be furious about it but it was such clever play
welp hex needs to work on his zarya
Who does choking better nyxl or boston
definitely XL
who won last match??
SPARK BABY
he bubble usage toward the end was bad
playoff choking >>> regular season choking
lets see if spark learn to keep krystal on the main lineup
they should
they really should
Adora honestly played like decent on Anubis
but they should keep Krystal
Seoul proves that they sub out players who works LUL
i really dont understand seoul
u pay top dollar for players and you dont even play them
rascal on brig
"you cant play 3-3 guangzhou"
literally someone says yea
Charge should just be Chengdu
not much goats
more dps centricc
??
smh
they dont even take the point
silver SR console team
The overlay should show zaryas charge
I'd like them to win simply to keep Shock at an even record with Boston
but I don't expect them to
ah, charge. its like theyre in a race with atlanta for the bottom
was that a turn mid-charge
supports failed to save rio twice
sinatraa uses grav like most orisa's use halt
jesus how bad is charge's map differential gonna be
is this abuse
should we report Shock for abusing Charge?
as that wasn't close at all
Violet potatoed an entire game last stage didnt he
this is some 200IQ positioning
fusion right?
mhm

yeah
sounds right
he was the tank partner for sado
ahahahahaha
lol super
big brained charge block to cap
super actually 200IQ
what even was that violet
that big brain ladder style
Why are Shock and Charge playing each other twice?
cause scheduling this season is fucked
i think someone thought it would be a cool idea to do these sorts of "double headers"
its like in baseball where two teams play back to back in a single night
except whoever put together this schedule completely missed the fact that baseball teams play each other a ton more times during the season because they play so many times. meanwhile, in OWL most of these just end up being a replay of the same match in the same meta. no real time to see how the matchup changes
@minor flame happy is sick
nice charge, rein
Charge just giving ticks for free
poko's not well known for his bombs
excuse me, what?
Charge is so scared lol
i would be too if i had to face down the shock
anti death zone can be eaten?
pretty sure no
it got bombed
oh
that would be like eating turret
glitches
"they look so bored"
Let them play. 
Wrecked!
Huh the valiant won? Weren't they 0-7 before?
yes
whos rooting for hunters?
everyone
honestly
I like both teams, so I just want it to be a good game.
i feel bad that dragons like rarely get wins
And Diem and Dding will have fun with Baconjack and Jinmu.
ameng 
So its pretty even.
i wanna see them both do good
Shanghai did fine in Stage 1, right in the middle with most teams.
but hunters ftw
This stage they have a shit schedule.
So I'm not expecting a ton this stage from them.
But thats just strength of schedule issues.
have hunters played titans at all??
this dude basically just made scrambled eggs
yes they did. took them to map 5 iirc
like week 4?
ohh damn
THE BOOMING ALPHA VOICE
Yvetal is gordon ramsey
THE BASS
did there hammond strats do good?
Not really.
Im just waiting for him to scream WHERES THE LAMB SAUCE in mandarin
it was like the first 3-3 we saw from them
We'd seen 3:3 from them before.
It was just always complete dogshit.
This one wasn't.
it was always desparate last minute switch
@pearl stratus shake hands that atlanta is worser then florida right now?
Part of it is because Ameng doesn't really "know" how to play Rein.
So he did shit that no pro-Rein would do.
Which worked.
oh fuck the new event is coming super soon
mayhem, outlaws, and justice ez wins
Nah Atlanta isn't in that bad a spot yet. They just need to not be such bitches about it.
π π AMENG ENTERS π π
@trim shadow lets not go overboard
I gaurantee Dogman is actually like a fucking twat off-stage with all the losses.
And thats going to make the issues worse.
no dafran no win 
Nyxl twice and guangzhou
did dafran really leave?
Who has shu and happy
have outlaws done well in any games? i feel like i havent seen them play in forever
yes
Dafran Retired.
@grizzled kayak yes the punk
He wasn't enjoying it.
they didnt play last week and didnt make playoffs so its been like 4 weeks since outlaws played
We haven't seen them play in Stage 2.
damn
They did okay in Stage 1.
honestly
Everyone did okay in stage 1
Shanghai and Chengdu
Minus LAV and Florida.
theyre pretty even
@trim shadow oof
BlessRNG
inb4 washington beats lav
L u l
Diem will be on Widow
Dding will be on Sombra, calling it.
i feel like outlaws are a pretty mid tier team, not my favorite, but i enjoy there games
I think we'll see Youngjin on a lot of flex.
in a match against
Luffy looks like he has a stick up his ass
such a formidable person is difficult
chengdu panda vs shanghai dragon
what are your bets
I love Luffy's weird fro type thing
Chengdu 3-2 lets go
mah boiz... the dragons
I dont think yxl and jiqiren have gotten to the us yet @minor flame
Luffy looks like that one steryotype asian on crack and knows kung fu
right behind the players
through that wall
he is watching
this match through his screen
in the scrim room
i dont like that his name is luffy, being a one piece fan. hes putting dirt on my guy.
Yo
oof forgot about those tires that game
I still cant believe dding is korean
Luffy should goto chengdu to complete the anime line up
He looks so chinese lawl
sad chengdu is more anime the hangzhou
ive only seen him make 5 great plays.
lets go
MEI PogU
maybe i havent been paying attention
Honestly Luffy is doing pretty amazing.
He was never insanely strong in Contenders.
This is a huge improvement and learning
this map is def in Shanghais favor
its very restricted
not giving Chengdu much room
Casters called it right.
shanghai has really been favoring pharah lately
tbh i just wanna see someone play reaper
Chengdu doesn't flex to a lot of hitscan, so the Pharah can do work
chengdu can't win this, shanghai is TTG, trained to go!
Hitscan
they need to get baconjack off zarya
there getting shat on
Ameng will not fall
rip
Honestly the coach for KDP should be given an award.
Gamsu's Reinhardt in Season 2 v. Season 1 is insane.
Both coaches and teams are very insane
i think YXL can get a grav faster than baconjack on zarya
theyre pretty even right now
i know that much LUL
u mean as far as improvement??
oof
the rock drop
caught slipping
still winning
I said it from week 1 or 2, I think Shanghai has one of the strongest dps duo's in the league.
damn
Yveltal is better
they still have the point
widow ult goes away when she dies now, that's on their patch right?
Luffy is prob better than Kyo
even after sombra ult
and Diemding is prob better than Elsajack
huh?
Luffy is definitely worse than Kyo.
But I think Yveltal gets slept on.
He's one of the stronger main supports in the league.
200-0
That was easy
Lijang is very difficult for Chengdu
Christ its e vel tal not eviltal
the map is very restrictive
i think that luffy isnt as good as kyo but his team is putting him good positions to outdo him
Say his name right na casters
Diem doesn't even need to be enabled most of the time too, which is the worst.
Gunna get triggered everytime yvetalβs name is said wrong
His aggression on Widow just doesn't get punished properly half the time
I honestly think
you know its pronounced the same as the pokemon?
@dreamy cave hurr durr
It doesn't really do much to change him and Baconjack though.
yee ve tal
arguing over how to pronounce a made up name π ππΏ
Sylibals*
i think its yee vel tal
syllables
sounds pretty similar no matter which one you say

Also if they mispronounce it Nintendo can't sue π
lol
point
shanghai wins 100%
Shanghai was one of the few teams that actually ran DPS a lot even in Stage 1.
They are absolutly dominating
So its not as huge a flex for them as other teams.
so weird to pronounce
yeah pretty ,uvh
the pokecommunity is even split on this shit
much
PogU
is this weebs in time?
rwby isnt anime but its pretty complicated
Wait what.
ayaya?
Interesting swaps.
Dammit how did he get the rest of his name right and not the first half
wdym
Yung is yang
Yung. Show long
Its yang show long
Those screams for geguri tho
pronunciation
rwby btw
its yang shao long
My southern accent pronounces show and shao pretty much the same
Also pog longest name in owl history
lol
TORB V GOATS
The Pharah impacts more, the knockback constantly.
y arent they hitting the wall wit rockets for splash damage
damn
HOW DID HE GET
There's no splash damage anymore.
DDDING
pharah splash got nerfed a while ago

random ult: ...
there is splash damage just reduced and direct hit increased
MOLTEN COOOOOOOOOREEEEE
lol
thats "jizzz"
jazz
you know what we need
"cheese"
yeah that's what he said 
Sea of dead children
That was more Leave than him.
Torb's crusty cheese 
Also Chengdu is repeatedly the only team who manages a Torb consistently.
Supers tears after loosing stage 1 finals
hes unironically
And Sym.
really good
aawww yeaaa
You can see he adapted strongly to not caring about his turret.
they need more trivia questions
Like he keeps it up and alive, but he just pellets people like a monter
elsa's torb and sym are the secret weapons
its more decoy than anyting
its the same 5 theyve had all the last couple days
so he does alot of work
they only pull it out when its necessary
himself
a decoy that you have to deal with
Made sure all of Atlanta could taste metal.
you think
Yangxiaolong can replace Baconjack?
Chengdu already has alot of dps
Lateyoung
is on roster hell
thats for sure
nahh, theyll probably just swap out alot for cool downs
ok
Genji
but Lateyoung is def on roster hell now
his name man
yangxiaolong name
on screen is like
unreadable?
Lateyoung was always going to be in a weird roster spot.
But he's a good leader, so I'm sure he helps a ton behind the scenes.
how youd compare yangxiaolong and baconjac
did something change with mercy dash that makes it easy to dash upward
not really
widow
Mystery heroes
just everyone is doing it now in OWL and they didnt use to do that
lmao
LETS GO DOOOOOOOD
sad
It's hard to remember that Elsa is a D'va player lol

Clapped
torb potg
Elsa is actually
Map 5 pls
Tank player on roster no?
no elsa is tank
lateyoung too
real talk though
how would you swap yangxiaolong and baconjack between maps in scenarios
Persona break music is back.
epe
Hard to tell. Baconjack has performed so well on everything
Geguri is so unlucky dude
Think sideshow has a crush on super the way hes looking at him
woah special halftime
I think he just gets a long because while Super is dumb as fuck, he's good content.
So he was on Sideshows stream a lot
So teams just stay in the arena after there games
the super sign lol
Lul super and sideshows streams when he was in visa hell
Super was non stop shit talking
thats the best way to describe hi
Dudes basically xqc
gamsu got better on rein. hot takes by super
LUL
Sinatra is one of the rare deep voiced koreans
Sinatraa is korean?
he LOOKS like he shouldnt have a fcking deep voice
Half
I thought he was Chinese American
hes pretty tall. long vocal cords
have you ever watched his streams? he never shuts up and always praising himself, he probably does
Sinatra is a beer drinker isnt he
Super 5Head
Just sits on the porch with a heineken and laughs in solo gravs
both there forheads are wide asf
I mean theyβre fun to watch
You need to have an ego sometimes.
I agree
Sideshow going heavy on the arm over shoulder
If you don't think you're the best you're going to end up shit in competitive stuff.
Look at that easy scheldue
"easy"
inb4 chengdu 4-0βs spitfire
its 1-1
That gladiators match is a lost
Unless they pull lags pants down and does a double trailer park flip suck
i think thats optimistic
shanghai has shown that
Basically do what they did to vancouver
but its more like
And just throw logic away
shanghai could lose to outlaws
I don't see them losing to outlaws.
DPS disparity between the two teams is too large.
Shanghai is just superior in terms of players
Houston taking a match and this stage is rigged
Houston still seems slumped on their DPS.
Already watched frd pokpo and dogman throw themselves like horny White chicks on las vegas boulevard at valiant
Linkzr seems... off.
the only thing i see
is Muma matching Gamsu
and Spree matching Geguri or Diem
but even thats a stretch
have you seen Krystal yet Endo?
Yeah he played today.
He looked really solid.
I'd actually like to see him get traded to Boston.
I think he'd fit in really well there.
Chengdu works best
with the most space and most structure to work around
Kings Row
im iffy on Kings Row
you personally or for this matchup?
LMAAOOO
roadhog on owl this is something
wow that shield just melted
Mis communication?
Luffys grenade was bonkers.
damn
"they play dirty on kings row"
Luffy purpled what... 4 people?
Honestly
f
I like what they're thinking.
They're basically running an offensive bunker.
wtf
But Dragons is running a counter comp to that.
Jinmu got fuckin
So its not going to work.
its really cool, and using the wall as a backstop is great
PLAY ASHE YOU HEATHENS
those nades are just doing way too much work
A good bob does work thoo
Bob is a garbage ult.
a good team does work against bob
i dont care for ash i wanna see reaper
a good
Here. here's how Bob will go
and they keep getting ticks
Thats babybays logic
they gotta stay o point
they beat the first defense
damn
Fat fingering ults like salsa dip at a frat party
LOL
Chengdu doesnt do well for first point KR comps
Ashe is the only hero in the game with like no play time.
its too bunker for them
JINMU
mhm
THIS GUY
more than reaper too
Kyo is like the Jjonak of anas dude
he gets kills
like a considerably amount of them
the pole stopped his charge from getting a kill
he booped him
sad
I told you people sleep on Yveltal.
YVELTAL YOU DARK-FLYING GOD
theres a reason why Yveltal is Uber
oof
With primal groundon and necrosma duskmane
oo
reversed it
AWWW
Yottachad shatter but huge beat π¦
teamu killu
Dding saves with a 6 man EMP
He never looked that happy on Boston
well he's with a bunch of korean now
Also Shanghai threw money upon money at the team this year
native on native actions is always better
alot of koreans are in owl
Their training facility alone was like 5-8 million
vancouver titans have a team of koreans
most teams are korean
there are only a handful of teams without koreans
maybe Chengdu, not sure if they are full china or not
TORB π
actually are there any teams without koreans other than chengdu now
Chengdu always runs Torb on KR A.
play reap
no
u butts
I mean I'd argue Houston doesn't have a Korean π
arhan LuL
Arhan is just there as a figurehead.
boston just have aimgod?
hes there to keep Tairong company
Does Dallas without Effect?
!roster Boston
OGE
Oh right. My brain forgets about OGE for some reason.
Paris doesn't.
ace combat
Youngjin is like.
Sleeper good.
His hero pool is so large.
But he never pops off to be the best.
so Chengdu, Paris
I still argue Houston since we literally haven't even seen Arhan in houston videos lol
my god
Oh man
i agree but then we're gettin into semantics
that's is like my ranked games while back
look at that hanzo
Iβm sad watching this
still surprises me how good ameng is on rein
Jack is more... tracking hitscan Tracer/Sombra, etc. YXL has a better McCree/Widow.
gonna need to emp early
Ameng is actually a really good rein
i thought he played rein first time vs Van?
oof
You can tell it got focused coaching.
Watch Ameng actually have the best Winston in the league.
KR was always a map Shanghai played well.
Even when it was all Chinese Shanghai.
It's just one they historically do well on.
But no I agree.
whats last map
I argue they've got the best dps duo in the league, its hard to find better.
You wanna know what I love guys?
to be able to fight such synergy such as Dding Diem
butts?
and even Youngjins pool
And Youngjin
its incredibly difficult
Eh I think Shock and NYXL still have better dps
even for Rui to counteract around
I think LAG comes closest.
How you can literally put [any game] is and the first results will be βbad, trash, and deadβ without fail
Literally any game
Standard public opinion rules.
Not even exaggerating
Always remember the 1:10 rule.
NYXLs dps is insane
Shock is like
very good but not as insane as the synergy the rest have
NYXL's DPS individually are insane, but in terms of pools and synergy they're weird.
I disagree
Like Pine and SBB are, for all intents and purposes, one tricks.
I think they have all the depth they need in Libero, Nenne and Flower
So they become specialists since small pools have dropped in favor.
libero is strong asf tho
Ye
But I think as a duo Diem + Dding is better than Libero + Nenne.
i feel like im going insane. how has nobody mentioned london?
I still cant get my head around
Birdring is washed.
Because London arent individually that great imo
Profit is still amazing.
libero was always strong asf when he played with jjonak and pine or jjonak and SBB
the difference between Yangxiaolong and Baconjack besides McCree flex
But Profit doesn't have a strong partner anymore.
Post injury Birdring is no where near as impressive.
the 3 really complement each other
I think Profit is p overrated
decay is a good dps in general
I don't, I think Profit is really strong. I actually think Fleta is a bit overrated.
i love eqos hanzo
And its showing more as new DPS come in.
I agree with fleta being overrated
omg shanghai
his early early widow/genji was amazing
fuck
I still think Fleta or Zunba would be better than Fits
like pre season / stage 1 season 1
Yeah, I feel like Fleta plateau'd.
skeet shooting with junkrat 
And stopped improving.
i dont really think he improved at all tbh
Eh. Fits has been popping off for Seoul though really.
he was best in pre season
Lmao.
feeders... just like my mystery deathmatch games
Chendgu my dudes. What are you doing
didnt luffy play bastion eairler

Chengdus biggest weakness
is Bunker
specfiically bastion baptiste
its so hard to manuever around
and do weird shit
471 dps lmao
With Mercy + Baptiste ult.
its higher than 471 isht it? Bastion alone is about 300
RIP Rip tire lol
i want luffy to play bastion tbh even if its not good for the team comp
i just wanna call it "4th gear"
I think Baptiste individually isnt that strong
but he enables Bastion Bunker so much
its ridiculous
baptist is x2 damage isn't it?
Nerf Bastion π₯
i mean yeah you can say the same for most heroes
Shanghai is out-Chengdu'ing Chengdu.
you could say the same with brig and lucio
but Baptiste just seems like out of no where
Rip Brig.
Btw.
I'm calling Brig buffs in the next month or two.
Because she's such garbage outside of 3:3.
i honestly dont care if they buff brig, i just dont want it to effect 3:3
3:3 is good as it is right now imo
still good on 2cp
can be good on other types
but its not a trump card
if they did buff brig then everyones gonna hate brig once more
whats her melee
the shield bash was already a problem before tho
Because it was 50.
i thought her melee was higher
Hers is 35
her actual melee is 35
I'd actually like to see her E get a shorter cooldown, but drop its overlal value a chunk.
rip tire??
in terms of actual numbers she heals fine, maybe speed up her healing?
that would make her better in 222
u only run brig with 2:2:2 for a annoying tracer
That only works in like.. sub-plat.
I wouldnt really buff her healing
I would only like
buff the armor pack speed travel time
?
Armor pack is instant.
It's hitscan.
It only has the animation for us as viewers.
think it should be eatable?
armor pack is instant but it actually takes less than a seconds time to get to the person
like from a distance
Yeah you're confusing the animation π
You can tell because its not impacted by Matrix, at all.
either way I feel like the ani makes it a bit slow
so whenever someone becomes critical in burst
Nah, thats just confirmation bias. Its actually instant.
nano isnt instant and its not affected by matrix. not a great standard
They're doing it PogU
will there ever be a girl in the owl?
geguri?
theres been a girl since like .. stage 2 season 1
shes playing rn
don't feed the troll guys
BaconJACKED
i wasnt paying attention to the players looks
look man, i only ever looked from the neck up
ooh nice bomb
oh lol
this time bank tho
rely on the bastion entirely
