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vale pond
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Lol to you too

trim shadow
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@minor flame my rankings is based off if its a dps meta not a goats meta we know who is ass or who is good at goats

north tendon
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ok to each their own

vale pond
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fucking silver chat

minor flame
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yeah

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and runaway is really good at dps

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runaway has been good at like almost all metas dude

north tendon
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ad homenim doesnt make you somehow smarter

trim shadow
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And thats why i didnt bump vancouver down to like 5

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Cause hooreg haksal

vale pond
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pretending that my arguments are fallacial dont make you smarter either

trim shadow
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Seominsoo im iffy on

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Hes a god at zarya but he plays the lazy mcree

minor flame
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yet youre more confident in SF being top

north tendon
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no pretending involved

minor flame
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lmaoooo

trim shadow
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Not like pines mcree

minor flame
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thats because seominsoo DOESNT play mccree

trim shadow
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Uhh..striker rascal architech and babybay?

minor flame
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babybay lol

trim shadow
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All deep hero pools (espect babybay) and good at there heros

minor flame
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have you seen runaway?

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like before any of this

north tendon
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anyway, I hope goats is a lot weaker in stage 2, just for the sake of the game

minor flame
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goats is not ALOt weaker

trim shadow
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Yes..but this is owl..and time has passed

minor flame
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its weaker but not that much

trim shadow
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Runaway has been playing goats for a year at this point

minor flame
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yet they managed to be top at almost all metas

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including dive

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which transitioned into goats

trim shadow
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2nd to the top in the dive

north tendon
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then what do you propose them do

minor flame
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they still managed to be top in goats

trim shadow
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But best at goats

north tendon
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if its still dominant

minor flame
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well its not even dominant in ladder

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the patch brings more variety but it doesnt make goats that weak

north tendon
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most people hate playing it

minor flame
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making goats too weak is a mistake

north tendon
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when I face it its still obnoxious

minor flame
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people hate playing it

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then dont play goats dude

north tendon
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I am saying the enemy team

minor flame
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enemy goats is so easy to disarm

trim shadow
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It just means if a team tries to run goats chengdu will go undefeated next stage

north tendon
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no honestly

trim shadow
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Since theyve shown at times to dissmantle a goats comp

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Unlike the other 19 teams

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just play goats

north tendon
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depends on the map

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on anubis b they were forced to swap

vale pond
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oh no anubis b

trim shadow
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Chengdu could just be good at hybrid/ escort maps

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But terrible at control and 2cp

vale pond
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also the occasional goats is fine

north tendon
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keyword, occasional but im expecting more than half the games

minor flame
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if goats is only on things like anubis b

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then i literally do not see the problem

north tendon
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lets hope its a lot more niche then

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I dont think its good to have it dead

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variety is fine

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just nothing being played almost all the time in every situation

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I would totally understand running it in control center

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that actually suits the map and makes sense

minor flame
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having that ideal stuff that nothing being almost played all the time in every situation

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is like

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near impossible to get

vale pond
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shame chengdu doesnt play the opening match

north tendon
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if it means anything I liked the latter stages of season 1

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it could use a tiny bit more variety

trim shadow
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Shame we gotta see philly get beatdoen

north tendon
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but something like that

trim shadow
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Damn i cant even confidently say atlanta will beat boston

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Mah spirits broken

north tendon
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dont be

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you got funnyastro

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the dps carry

minor flame
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lmao

trim shadow
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Espect astro is a 2 way player

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And will mainly play academy

minor flame
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not like Astro is a good replacement for Masaa nyway

north tendon
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jokes on you astro and masaa will play at the same time!

trim shadow
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I dont even know how good astro would be in a pro setting where people are gonna counter his rollouts

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I know about him rejecting boston btw

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Was it boston?

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I think he didnt like the salary offer

north tendon
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actually when he was asked about rollouts tips he was like he doesnt care too much since he doesnt die

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4head

trim shadow
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Astro replacing dogman or kodak?

north tendon
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I dont think it was rejecting

minor flame
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astro is a zen player?

north tendon
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he was boosting

trim shadow
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Lucio

supple prism
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shock may go undefeated next stage?

minor flame
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no

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thats unlikely

trim shadow
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If super doesnt feed

vale pond
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astro isnt replacing anyone

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He will be benched

north tendon
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why are people rating shock so high off the finals

trim shadow
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And try to copy bumper

supple prism
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not off the finals

minor flame
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shock takes titans to map 7

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now suddenly theyre no1 team

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lmao

trim shadow
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Im rating them off of player results

supple prism
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not number 1

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3

trim shadow
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Hence striker

north tendon
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they had a pretty damn good game

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but this is about consistency

minor flame
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people dont seem to realize that every time shock took a map off of titans

trim shadow
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And fucking architech on the same team

minor flame
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it was close

supple prism
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and next stage they play only mid range teams i think

minor flame
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and every time titans did the same

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it was a sweep

north tendon
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chengdu almost beat titans

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are they also number one material?

trim shadow
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No

vale pond
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Achad

trim shadow
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But top 10 material

minor flame
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they almost beat a team that doesnt expect Chengdu strats

vale pond
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Atlanta falls out of top 10 now

north tendon
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^

minor flame
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theyre like mid tier

trim shadow
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They can compete if they keep what theyre doing going

vale pond
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They’ll go 3-4

minor flame
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Chengdu has shown alot of promise in the last few matches

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3-2 ATL

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2-3 Titans

trim shadow
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Probably lower then that

minor flame
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theyll be mid-top if they keep that kind of performance

trim shadow
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We play nyxl twice

supple prism
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shock will at least got 5-2

vale pond
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I was countin nyxl as 2 losses

trim shadow
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Thats like two beatdowns or two upsets ill throw any logic away

vale pond
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atlanta will get killed by nyxl

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They dont have the dps talent anymore

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all they rlly have now is 2 good supports in masaa and pogshit

north tendon
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rankings in overwatch are kinda funny esp when the teams can be so inconsitent

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inconsistent*

trim shadow
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Boston london washington la valiant charge new york twice

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Boston washington valiant should be a cake walk

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Im not speaking on the rest

vale pond
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They’ll beat boston, wash, val

north tendon
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im sure no one expected val to be the worst team

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lol

vale pond
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london and charge will be close losses

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nyxl big sad

trim shadow
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Dammit dafran retired were vunerable to just go winless

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my spirit is really broken

north tendon
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they built the roster first and got dafran second

vale pond
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April 1st is a day away

north tendon
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they took measures

vale pond
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Lets hope

minor flame
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the amount of people leaving atl fanbases after dafran leaving is hilarious

vale pond
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they dont have dps talent

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Erster and nleer are ok

north tendon
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if you abandon reign just because of dafra, then you were never a fan in the first place lol

vale pond
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but not fantastic

trim shadow
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im slowly believing cassories has some plan

vale pond
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I’m reign fan bc masaa and dogman

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But I want to see the guys have a shot

supple prism
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ewww

trim shadow
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Or we can kiss any chance at end of seasons playoffs goodbye

minor flame
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daco is mediocre

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i forgot who the rein was

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their rein was unnoticable

north tendon
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pokpo? I thought he was average as well

trim shadow
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Probably get eliminated 1st or 2nd round in the battle royale at the end for the last spot

north tendon
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some good moments

minor flame
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Pokpo?

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yeah

trim shadow
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Yes

minor flame
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hes not good

trim shadow
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He had his moments

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Then he got deleted mext

vale pond
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pokpo is shit

minor flame
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Masaa

vale pond
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masaa is incredible

minor flame
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is good

trim shadow
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Seeing him die twice to the dva in the playoffs made me want to die

minor flame
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masaa is pretty good

vale pond
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probably their best player

trim shadow
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IN THE FIRST 10

minor flame
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Erster

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i forgot erster exists

trim shadow
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I blame hes korean and the rest of his team is euro

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Gator needs a full contract..

vale pond
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Erster was stuck on brig dury

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Duty

north tendon
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they really need a good dps signing tho

minor flame
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Dogman is inconsistent

north tendon
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nlaeer might not be enough

minor flame
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either good or shit

vale pond
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His hanzo was alright but he’ll be average

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dogman yeah

north tendon
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yea dog is weird

vale pond
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hes overall good tho

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And he’ll get to play more ana in new meta

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So more in his comfort zone

minor flame
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his ana is not noticable

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ly good

vale pond
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he played one game as ana

minor flame
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he played 2 games

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i was not impressed

vale pond
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He carried the second

trim shadow
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his ana is not notticable

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gets a game winning anti nade against houston

vale pond
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He literally won them the game against houston

minor flame
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people refer to his nade against houston

trim shadow
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5head

minor flame
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like

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his one play

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lmao

trim shadow
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The fact is

minor flame
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its not even that skillful as a play though

trim shadow
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He landed it..under a rein shield

vale pond
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That was like the one time he played ana too

north tendon
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yea another overhyped play

minor flame
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youre literally pressing e on 6 people in a grav

trim shadow
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And houston logged off the server

vale pond
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he saved pokpo before that

minor flame
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people like to hype that shit as like omg so great

north tendon
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THEY ARE ON THE PAYLOAD, I WONDER WHERE THE NADE SHOULD LAND

minor flame
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its not that hype

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impact is great but the effort was not high

vale pond
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The pokpo save still

minor flame
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what

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normal healing?

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yeah thats good

vale pond
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Very good healing

minor flame
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healing normally

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lol

north tendon
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it was a miraculous save, but it also wasnt like a mindblowing tactic or anything

vale pond
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Not to mention if you watched from his perspective he was healing dafran too

minor flame
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that being said

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dogmans ana is like

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decent

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but hes not noticably good

vale pond
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He played once

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You can not judge lol

minor flame
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he played twice

vale pond
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when

minor flame
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chengdu nepal

vale pond
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houston and?

minor flame
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he was shat on

vale pond
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chengdu...

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The game they got shat on

minor flame
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infact

vale pond
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as a whole

minor flame
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all of chengdu

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he was like

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the firstp ick

north tendon
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yea i remember him feeding

vale pond
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He still only played 2 maps

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Fed one map and saved the other

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Classic pogshit gameplay

minor flame
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the other map he did like

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fine

vale pond
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given he was known for his ana

minor flame
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but he wasnt like

vale pond
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we def havent seen it all

minor flame
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noticably good

vale pond
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Idk why u want to discount him so much give the man a chance

north tendon
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i think its fine to have an initial impression

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not like that cant change

vale pond
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of 2 maps lol k

north tendon
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who expected ameng to dominate bumper on rein

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that is also fine

vale pond
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its bumper lol

north tendon
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a sample is a sample

minor flame
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dogman might show himself to be like

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really good at ana

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but so far im not impressed

vale pond
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he is known for it

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So far you are not impressed by 5 minutes of gameplay good for you

slow walrus
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^

vale pond
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I’ll paypall you 2 cents if you are righr

minor flame
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yeah and bumper is known for his rein even though hes like plat in diff team

vale pond
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Bumper is a special case

north tendon
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lol

vale pond
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very uh special

slow walrus
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bumper intentionally feeds

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it's part of the team strat

north tendon
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big brain feeds

vale pond
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you should hear his comms

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Fucking ape screaming

slow walrus
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legitimately they move in right after him and take advantage of all the space he makes

vale pond
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he sounds like a cat during sex

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seriously look it up

north tendon
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sounds regrettable

vale pond
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ok on that note Imma sleep after leaving that on your head

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Sweet dreams of bumper screeching

north tendon
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sweet dreams of cat sex

vale pond
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I’ll just dream of vancouver comms then

north tendon
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that works

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goodnight

vale pond
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nite

long dock
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FUNNYASTRO'S GOING PRO?

north tendon
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ye, reign

vale pond
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gonna be shit lul

long dock
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I feel like he's too independent and aggressive to go pro?

vale pond
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k nite

long dock
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Night <3

north tendon
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he can easily adjust his playstyle, hes an amazing player overall

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and played in contenders for hurricane

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he talked about this in karq's tip vids

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hes more team oriented in pro play

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does ladder shit because it works there

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and recommends it

balmy wolf
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funnyastro has been pro before

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his strength lies in pace control

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also idk if many people here follow it but

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made harbleus team 😄

limber shell
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Overwatch and esports 😂

vale pond
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nice

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also masaa on team comps in stage 2: Theres going to be goats but not that much, we're going to have a lot more bunker comps and stuff like that

elder quarry
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any esporters?

karmic grotto
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bunker comps

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BAPTISTE INCOMING

queen drift
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I hope effect is okay

sullen berry
mint flower
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What the hell is happening with effect?

trim shadow
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Going through sum edge again!

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?*

supple prism
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damn, there was+300k viewers watching OWL on ABC

slow walrus
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baptiste bunker is not as strong as you think

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watch the vod from last night's stream on jayne's channel

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baptiste is pulled out for the last map and the team running it gets stomped by dive and a couple well placed anti nades

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all the immortality did was delay their deaths

pearl stratus
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Baptiste isn't that strong in general.

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People just overreact.

slow walrus
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everyone assumed the new hero would be an end to goats and that blizzard would answer their cries of pain

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the truth is that blizzard attempted to end goats this patch but it's still strong and we're still going to see it

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they have failed in that sense

minor flame
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ending goats would be a mistake

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cause youre back to square one

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dive meta straight for months

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i think blizzard expected people to play like chengdu

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expecting more variety

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instead everyone chose to play goats

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even when theyre not good at it

balmy wolf
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goats honestly isnt that strong anymore

trim shadow
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Atlanta signed bero to the academy with a zenyatta pic

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So whats up with cassories and support lines?

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Means goats is still main meta

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Fuck

minor flame
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its been like a week dude

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going from one dominant meta to several is fucking jarring

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literally give it some time

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you cant expect everyone to transition so willy nilly smoothly immediately

vale pond
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bUt i WaNt hEAdCLiCkiNg

trim shadow
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Same

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Alright chengdu make a new meta

fathom acorn
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People want 5 hours of Genji 6k

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And widows popping off

vale pond
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Go watch ladder montages smh

snow gyro
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What is the best way to catch up on overwatch esports

supple prism
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or twitch

hidden vault
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Still no juicy trades

balmy wolf
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Have OverWatch pros reacted to their player camera at all this season?

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Last year I remember players getting happy and waving to the camera at the start of the matches

supple prism
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i like how the OWL reruns still has 1.5k people watching

vale pond
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Good

trim shadow
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Probably euro folk

uneven wren
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did somebody say juicy trades? 😛

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the real juice is vortex's reply 😂

supple prism
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People complaining about making April fools joke on March 31st, its April 1st some where.

uneven wren
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truth

trim shadow
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Wait jake is from@houston right?

supple prism
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yes

trim shadow
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Welp time to drop houston a place

supple prism
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lol

trim shadow
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Muma’s back must be hurting

queen drift
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april first here

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april first for most of the world x)

broken wasp
balmy wolf
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WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THESE TRADES

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WHAT

supple prism
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april 1st

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wait a minute, thats a fake shanghai dragons twitter

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its missing an a

queen drift
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yea trust nothing you see for the next 24h ResidentMano

sullen berry
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one of these will be real, i can feel it

queen drift
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the double jebait

sullen berry
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so ez

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I don't expect to be caught up until day 1 of matches

ruby pendant
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LOL

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pine for dragons

sullen berry
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actually diya reincarnate

lapis grail
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Pine traded to the Shanghai Dragons

sullen berry
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Boston trades x for y are all plausible

shy wind
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huh, guess i'm avoiding comp ow disc today

sullen berry
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just had a peek, monte christmas lol

opaque lagoon
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They’re having a lot of fun with April’s fools lol

trim shadow
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So what is the jake trade april fools as well?

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Wait*

opaque lagoon
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We’ll see

gaunt acorn
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@trim shadow yes

ashen sedge
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goats bad

fathom acorn
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Pine didn’t get traded

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Only ark

supple prism
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Yes they are fake, those arent even the real team twitter

fathom acorn
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Y’all just got jebaited

mint flower
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Did people actually fall for those....?

queen drift
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The pine one was somewhat well done

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The jAke one tho cmon man

balmy wolf
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I feel like Atlanta reign trolled all of us

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They didn’t sign a dps player for stage 2

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Stage 2 is almost here

limber pine
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They could sign a player already in LA

balmy wolf
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time to move to LA

limber pine
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and a lot of teams have their academy teams in LA

sullen berry
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Atlanta can probably pull a Daemin and find a pro in LA at the last minute who is eligible to join

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But with Brad's track record, they could actually pull it off

limber pine
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#SIGNBABYBAY

sullen berry
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imagine Sleepy on any other team right now

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You can, but you can't see it happening

trim shadow
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But the last two signings have been support players

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So i doubt cassories is activetly lookinng for a dps

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That just means cassories believes in nlaeer togo pog

fathom acorn
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They signed Astro but he isn’t DPS

sullen berry
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Remember this time last year?

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Valiant were benching AGILITIES and silkthread

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And the logical thing was to put kariv on dps and unkoe/verbo on zen?

fathom acorn
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Kariv and agilities are adorable

pearl stratus
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Sleepy is stuck in bench hell.

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No teams need a zen that would spend money on him.

hidden vault
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Unkoe on zen

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Verbo is the main support

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Moon seems to like the idea

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Kariv on dps

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Even the man himself says no

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I believe NLaaeR will do fine though

trim shadow
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rip sleepy and fragi

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has there been any player whos been dropped from a owl team that has gone back to contenders

minor flame
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Fragi is literally dead

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Cause now Rein is dead

trim shadow
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F for the viking

limber pine
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lots of players have gone back into contenders

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lots of korean ones

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Logix

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most of old FLA actually

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xQc "technically"

trim shadow
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what about most of old shanghai?

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0f course chips is a streamer now i think i dont think he is invovled in contenders

limber pine
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a few had name changes and went into Contenders

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MG is on GZ Academy now

trim shadow
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understand..shanghai did go 0-40 so most players would want a new identity

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f to roshan for not finding a new team

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also hang on undead has a new team?

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ohhh i see u4 went to the same team so he probably brought him on board

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but now hes a coach?

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and has to 1st place finishes in open divison?

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two*

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well 1 in open division and 1 in trials

minor flame
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Undead was on a team last i heard

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It was long ago but his name is like

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hYpno or something

trim shadow
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so then his liquidpedia isnt updated

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or you would have to look at hypno's liquidpedia

limber pine
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yeah he's on nLW

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which apparently stands for never Lose Weight

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HYpnos

fathom acorn
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Important London announcement

mint flower
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Sky isn't on a team?

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Also Freefeel now goes by B612?

vale pond
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Dafran

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Which is the prank

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Please be real but idk

fathom acorn
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Seagull needs to come back to OWL

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To play sym

mint flower
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Dafran needs to come back so we can see more Torb

vale pond
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I hate the prank

minor flame
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elsa torb > dafran torb

night tusk
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lol

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its sad that Dafran quit before DPS meta but I think it's better this way. you could see he enjoys streaming more

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But funnyastro is signed as 2way, that can be dope.

mint flower
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idrc about contenders, and they already have masaa

trim shadow
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Contenders is 100% goats every map so i cant het into it

sullen berry
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It's harder to end on a high note, so he did what he felt was a bit odd now compared to his old ways

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Everlasting Goats until tanks get nerfed so hard

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They become more situational than doomfist

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I'm enjoying what I see in ladder games in top 500

trim shadow
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im still speculating this changes dont mean shit cause we got a new support that has a immortality field a ult that boost healing and damage and has great vertical mobility so some form of self peel

balmy wolf
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Dafran will return in Endgame

vale pond
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Funnyastro isnt gonna see play

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masaa is simply better

supple prism
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Unless ill

vale pond
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tru but masaa is finnish

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They dont get sick

vale pond
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Oml please stop

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there are reasons to believe it is real but idk anymore

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We’ll find out tomorrow or the 4th

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probably gone but we can dream

ruby pendant
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!schedule

somber yewBOT
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vale pond
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Atlanta can beat boston w/o dafran I think

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Xl will heat philly

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glads will win bc decay

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Charge will beat paris

north tendon
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naw, dafran isnt gonna be back lol

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unless ATL are the biggest dicks ever

trim shadow
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dafran*

queen drift
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PHI 1 3 NYXL

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BOS 2 3 ATL

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SHD 2 3 GLA

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GZC 3 1 PAR

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LDN 4 0 FLA

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WAS 1 3 TOR

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VAL 0 4 SFS

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GLA 3 1 SEO

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FLA 1 3 PHL

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TOR 3 1 BOS

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NYE 3 1 SHD

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CDH 3 2 PAR

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SFS 3 1 GZC

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ATL 1 3 LDN

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VAN 3 2 HZS

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WAS 2 3 CDH

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what did u say kenobi

sullen berry
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okay, so remember how everyone had it in the mail predicted spitfire in the inaugral season 2 match?

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how many of you had predicted fusion, if we're being honest based on past success in stage 1

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because i think despite the drops when elk was in the lineup

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nyxl are being overrated

queen drift
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Are we talking about NYXL or phi

sullen berry
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especially against fusion

queen drift
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I’m confused

supple prism
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had it in the mail

sullen berry
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that was not in the bag for spitfire

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not in the mail

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that's what I meant

queen drift
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I don’t think many people had expected London to be so bad at goats

sullen berry
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I didn't have NYXL in my playoff predictions either

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but I was totally convinced Seoul had the higher chance, but not on paper

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they prepared really well, a credit to their team comp and playing fits into the match

supple prism
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the hell is not in the mail

sullen berry
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not in the mail e.g. Spitfire's payout in stage 1

upper niche
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Wow, here's a bit of fun info. So I just saw the podium photos for the Enduro World Series round held last weekend in Tasmania - where they have great big novelty cheques printed for the top 3, to the tune of AUD1,000, 600 and 400. This is supposed to be a top-teir professional sport, and they're paying the winner in the elite categories a pitiful $1,000.

If I had a team in contenders in NA, EU, KR or CN, I would earn an absolute minimum of $1320 per week just for showing up and competing in Overwatch Contenders - and over $2k if you won all 4 maps. What a joke prizemoney in cycling is.

drowsy fulcrum
limber pine
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Stop cherry picking times

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Blizzard never said all matches on all days were going to be better

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EU has two days this season that start earlier

drowsy fulcrum
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ok I'll stop cherrypicking days

10/16 matches are confirmed to start after midnight
12/16 matches could start after midnight if the two before them take a while

The 4 guaranteed games we can watch before midnight do not include Paris Eternal, the wholly European team

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in fact the games we do get to see are going to be almost entirely rolls

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TOR/BOS and SFS/GZC are the only ok ones

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but I don't think anyone's going to disagree when I say that Florida vs Philly or Atlanta vs London are going to be boring

swift moth
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decay bouta pound shanghai

swift moth
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reighn lost defran

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so I personaly think spitfire will destroy them

balmy wolf
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you know dafran isn't the strongest zarya right..

swift moth
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yeah

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thats true

hidden vault
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Dafran is the smoothest hitscan tracker

mint flower
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shanghai is so fucked for their first two games

minor flame
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Shanghai prob has one of the harder schedules

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I would say they have a good one against Chengdu

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But Chengdu

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I dont know what Chengdu is

mint flower
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Shanghai has justice, outlaws, mayhem which i'd say are easier

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but they also have shock, nyxl, LAG which are much harder

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and then like you said, who the hell knows what hunters will do...

balmy wolf
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Dafran is still a Reign "Streamer" not sure what that means

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Does he give them a cut of profit or something like wth

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Is this a common thing?

minor flame
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Yes

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He streams for Reign

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Profit

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I dont know

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Prob

mint flower
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It's like a more relaxed way of supporting the team

mint turtle
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keeps him connected to the team so he can get random gifts and sponsers i think

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like kabaji for fusion, or aspen for c9

fast ember
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also contracted pay is nice to supplement a gig job

night tusk
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Dafran mentioned he would be at the home matches to support ATL (and have signings ofc)

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I don't watch alot of contenders but if I see ATL academy or Fusion uni if playing I watch it sometimes

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And Funny is for sure better than Ajax

tawny sigil
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so uh.... goats still not dead apparently?

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#epicfail ?

minor flame
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Imagine killing goats

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Now youre back to dive 2 yrs agi

tawny sigil
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well the watch retention on dive is certainly higher than goats

minor flame
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Dive as meta is still shit

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All dom metas are shit

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Variety gang

cedar drum
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Mmm

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Anyone here

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Chronodota is streaming with the title 'Announcement soon'

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And Jayne is hosting him

tawny sigil
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we'll see the damage 1 more stage of goats will cause

cedar drum
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.......

minor flame
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I think

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Everyone doesnt wanna try and be like Chengdu

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And flex to variety

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Chengdu does well against goatees

worn falcon
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wew

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2 days before stage 2

trim shadow
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Welp see you guys in stage 2 featuring quad support

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Cocco is one of the coaches right?

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Oof first professional i see say that overwatch is no longer enjoyable

minor flame
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Expected from a MT player

balmy wolf
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fuck dude

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im genuinely actually sad at this

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OG envyus is slowly breaking apart

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chips is already gone, cocco, effect

minor flame
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Effect

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If he doesnt come back to stage 2 we be big sads

balmy wolf
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honestly tho

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original envyus is the reason i started grinding overwatch to become pro and get scholarships for college league and now on a contenders team

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now their team has none of the original players played in games

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akm over taimou AND effect, unkoe replaced chipshajen, oge replaced cocco, closer replaced harryhook, rck over mickie, zacharee technically replaced seagull

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its almost like the reason i ever got into pro OW has left

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a hard feelssadman

honest tusk
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i cant fucking type in the team recruitment section can someone help

balmy wolf
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listening to cocco's video is genuinely saddening bc its obvious he just... doesnt feel at hoome

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who can blame him

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his family is half gone

worn falcon
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he is streaming btw, if you want to ask stuff @balmy wolf

balmy wolf
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@worn falcon There's nothing I really wanna ask. I respect his decision and honestly support it since it does seem like he wasn't enjoying his time in OWL. I hope the best for him both mentally and financially.

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I'll stop by to say some nice things

trim shadow
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I dont know how anyone can enjoy a 40 game season with almost no break and no one that can sub in for you and play well

balmy wolf
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trim shadow
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Now cocoo i can respect for leaving or retiring

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Cause he tried both perspectives

nova wadi
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@balmy wolf c-c-contenders

night tusk
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I don't mind if dive is meta again, I don't hate goats but I want to see Saya, Pine & someone like babybay play mccree/widow again or just see dps like fl0w3r or sbb

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And yes mccree is not dive for example but with goats you won't see him for sure only to counter other comps

spring heath
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lmao too cute

mint flower
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holy shit

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is it true that note was traded for rCk

queen drift
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send me the announcement

mint flower
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its on bostons twitter

opaque lagoon
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Babybay is joining Atlanta

mint flower
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@queen drift here ya go

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theres also an article about it on the owls website

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so i think its true

drowsy fulcrum
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get my fusions out of boston right now

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I don't care who he goes to just not in boston anymore

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HuK has gone mad with power and he's locked himself in the bathroom

queen drift
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1:01 PM - 2 Apr 2019

mint flower
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boston is a shitshow

queen drift
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ya likely true

drowsy fulcrum
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dude

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Reign should pick up Fusions

queen drift
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why

drowsy fulcrum
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because they're not Boston

queen drift
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reign have pokpo

drowsy fulcrum
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Fusions > Pokpo tbhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

queen drift
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na

drowsy fulcrum
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hundo percent

queen drift
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fusions is a good rein

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thats about it

drowsy fulcrum
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Fusions has mad experience in exactly the kind of Overwatch that Reign want to play

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especially with FAstro now with them (inb4 he's a two-way player for exactly two games)

queen drift
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pokpo has a better winston, orisa, hammond, and he has great synergy with daco

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Fastro wont play stage 1 likely

mint flower
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boston also signed persia from talon esports

drowsy fulcrum
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he wasn't in stage 1 lmao

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he'll play stage 2 tho

queen drift
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stage 2 *

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why would he

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he'll probably be suspended for half of more of it

drowsy fulcrum
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FAstro fucking loves new Lucio man, probably the most used to him in the world thanks to how he actually played Lucio before changes

queen drift
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and then they already have masaa, a better lucio

drowsy fulcrum
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masaa > fastro???

queen drift
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yes.

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every day of the week

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fastro is a ladder lucio

drowsy fulcrum
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are we actually ignoring Fastro vs Masaa's match history?

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Fastro has beaten Masaa every single time in EU Contenders

queen drift
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picking single players from previous results doesnt really mean anything though

drowsy fulcrum
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I wouldn't be at all surprised if Fastro just gets the Fusions treatment

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becoming a main player after exactly 2 games

minor flame
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wait

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they traded rck?

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for note??

drowsy fulcrum
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yes

queen drift
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tbh im not 100% certain, anything would be healthy to be skeptical of right now

drowsy fulcrum
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Boston is going down

minor flame
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who is the loser

drowsy fulcrum
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super fucking down

queen drift
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but thats what they both said on their twitter

minor flame
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isnt rck shit

drowsy fulcrum
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yes

minor flame
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isnt note also

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meh

drowsy fulcrum
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Note was good on Boston

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but that's Boston

queen drift
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hes pretty good as far as western offtanks go

drowsy fulcrum
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tbh Boston has uh

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some issues

queen drift
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no shit

minor flame
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imagine trading note

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for rck

drowsy fulcrum
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Fusions and AimGod are good
Colourhex can pull it out

and then

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yeah

mint flower
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so how many trades/transfers/signings now?

drowsy fulcrum
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idk like 15

minor flame
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was note playing at all in stage 1?

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or was i too pepega to notice

queen drift
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yes i think

mint flower
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15?

drowsy fulcrum
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hold on I'll make a list

minor flame
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everyone besides fusions and aimgod

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in boston

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are so forgettable dude

queen drift
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well yeah that happens when you cant keep a roster longer than a stage

drowsy fulcrum
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rCk > Boston
Persia > Boston
Note > Fuel
FunnyAstro > Atlanta (two-way)
Babybay > Atlanta
Apply > Florida (up from Academy)
ArK > Washington
ILLICIT > Seoul
Highly > Seoul
Gamsu > Dragons

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also a few people changed in management

minor flame
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oh yeah

queen drift
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Apply was 2 way

mint flower
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thx

minor flame
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Highly and Illict hasnt played

drowsy fulcrum
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Apply's not two way

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he was just moved up

queen drift
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I said he was 2 way

drowsy fulcrum
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he's not 2 way though

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2 way implies he plays on both

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iirc he didn't play stage 1?

queen drift
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i said

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he

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WAS

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2 way

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he was signed as a 2 way player

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he doesnt have to play on both to be a 2 way player

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just be signed to a 2 way contract

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same as elk

drowsy fulcrum
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I mean he never got played in Stage 1, and now he's 100% a Florida main team player

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i'd say it counts

queen drift
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you're retarded

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it's not hard

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to read

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W A S

drowsy fulcrum
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i mean yeah i am but doesn't mean i'm wrong

queen drift
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????????????????

drowsy fulcrum
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officially Apply moved from Florida Mayhem/Academy to just Mayhem

queen drift
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"apply was 2 way" "hes not 2 way" "i said he was 2 way" "hes not 2 way tho" "i said he WAS 2 way"

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do you not understand the concept of past and present tense

drowsy fulcrum
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man you sure are getting angry over a video game esports league

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I'm just saying i considered it to be a new signing as he's now no longer playing on his previous team, and is wholly on a new team

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to me that more or less means "moved team"

mint flower
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ive never seen highly or illicit play?
what r their roles?

minor flame
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dps and support

drowsy fulcrum
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doesn't matter that he was two way, his main team was completely different to his new one

minor flame
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highly is dps

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illict is support?

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did i get that right?

mint flower
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k

drowsy fulcrum
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no Highly's the support

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also has a Sombra

queen drift
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i havent argued, a single time, that he was moved from a 2 way to solely a first team player

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i havent argued that he didnt move teams

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all i said

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is he

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WAS

drowsy fulcrum
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Illicit was a top level Junk in Korea even when Junk wasn't a thing lmao

queen drift
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2 way

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which he was

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what is so difficult to understand about that

drowsy fulcrum
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oh shush you, you've proved your point

mint flower
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so highlys support, illicits dps?

drowsy fulcrum
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aye

mint flower
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k thx

drowsy fulcrum
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Highly is a Zen/Ana with a Sombra
Illicit is a Junk/Pharah/Genji(?)

minor flame
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so

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Highly is RJH sub

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and ILLICIT is Fleta sub

mint flower
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so highly will be sub for jehong?

drowsy fulcrum
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still one day, Jehong could get traded to Boston or some shit

mint flower
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oh thats wut u said

minor flame
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imagine trading your best support player

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seoul gang

mint flower
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smh im dumb

drowsy fulcrum
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imagine trading your best tank playe- oh wait boston already did that

queen drift
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dallas gang

drowsy fulcrum
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twice

mint flower
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lmao

drowsy fulcrum
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the fuck is wrong with Huk

mint flower
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so fusions and rck are the starters?

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yeah huks cooked in the head

drowsy fulcrum
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looks like it

mint flower
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and then theres axxiom on the bench

drowsy fulcrum
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reminder that Huk decided to pick up another lucio specialist when he knew they'd start the season with only one DPS main because Blase was banned for 2 games

mint flower
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axxiom is a winston main right?

minor flame
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yes

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his winston is

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decent

drowsy fulcrum
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has Alemao even played a single game

mint flower
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hows fusions' winston?

drowsy fulcrum
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better than Axxiom's

mint flower
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alright f for axxiom

minor flame
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it is?

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i thought fusions winston was like

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pepega

mint flower
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yes alemao played once

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near the beginning of the season iirc

drowsy fulcrum
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Fusions plays a strange Winston but it works

mint flower
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he played the first 2 maps of nyxl

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he might've played more, idk

queen drift
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fusions winston is a fat 1head

mint flower
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Well is Winston’s getting back in meta anytime soon?

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Cuz unless it is, axxiom is irrelevant

twin cobalt
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Hot take: dallas needed a one trick diva cause they found sombra is bad with baptise patch.

night tusk
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Guys

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I played one match or two

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What happend

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Note and rck traded and babybay to ATL?

fast basin
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too much

mint flower
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Yea

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And Persia was signed to Boston

night tusk
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Ow yeah saw that to

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Idk why boston/dallas want this

mint flower
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Yea I thought rCk was doing fine with fuel

night tusk
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I did not watch alot of dallas matches but alot of hype was their for rck

mint flower
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And notes been fine with Boston for a while

trim shadow
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I FUCKING KNEW IT I FUCKING KNEW IT ATLANTA JUST PICKED UP BABYBAY!

fast basin
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rCk is canadian now

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???

nova wadi
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who is persia?

mint flower
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Flex support

night tusk
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Atleast babybay will have more playtime

trim shadow
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POG CASOSRED

nova wadi
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is he from a team or contenders team

trim shadow
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Atlanta is pog!

fast basin
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and apparently Note never played for them

mint flower
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Yes

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Played for talon esports

night tusk
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Pine is also in shanghai now Kappa

trim shadow
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Babybay is a insane dps with tremendous potential

karmic grotto
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but why babybay

trim shadow
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I am glad atlanta yanked him

karmic grotto
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i dont understand

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he never played

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this stage

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right?

nova wadi
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he hasnt

trim shadow
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Bruhhhhhhhh i fucking knew it once dafran left atlanta was going to san fran for a trade

night tusk
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I guess because babybay have some heroes he can play like dafran (soldier?) and he is western?

mint flower
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Babybay will be interesting

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Hitscan right

trim shadow
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WHAT DALLAS FUEL PICKED UP NOTE?

night tusk
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Maybe ATL does want a more western team than adding another korean

trim shadow
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Whats with theese crazy trades last minute?

night tusk
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Traded for rck

mint flower
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Yes note and rCk were trades

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Traded

nova wadi
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i dont think fusion will trade anyone

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poor fragi

night tusk
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Fragi 😦

trim shadow
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So boston failed with laa

karmic grotto
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😦

trim shadow
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And went to dallas

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F for rck

nova wadi
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they should at least let him play

trim shadow
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Anyway thats not why im here

nova wadi
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sado winston isnt always the best thing

mint flower
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Is the Krystal trade still going on?

night tusk
mint flower
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Yeah rCk got traded into a shot show

night tusk
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fragi without carpe on one picture

trim shadow
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I learned that san fran is a shit hole..and expensive to live

mint flower
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Shitshow

trim shadow
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So san fran will have the worst stadium

night tusk
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Carpe and Fragi have beef 😦

nova wadi
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yeah carpe doesnt like fragi or something right?

night tusk
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well

mint flower
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Yeah I heard about that

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Someone leaked it in sideshows stream

night tusk
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Avast said just that you won't see both of them on stage. nothing confirmed more than that

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I saw that live lol

trim shadow
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Super leaked it i think

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It was super or elk

nova wadi
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i just wonder why

queen drift
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avast

night tusk
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Avast (former boston player and now caster)

mint flower
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I wish avast got to play last season

nova wadi
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interests me what fragi did or vice versa

night tusk
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I think he does good as caster

mint flower
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How many people never played last season

queen drift
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avast is great as a caster

trim shadow
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Oh yea avast leaks everything

mint flower
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Regular season only

night tusk
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maybe it's not about irl problems but gameplay stuff related

mint flower
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Not preseason

trim shadow
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Like guardian buying out of boston

night tusk
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or carpe is like "i want my main tank to be korean"

nova wadi
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yikers

queen drift
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i think its more to do with how he plays aggro

night tusk
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I heard that Effect was also the reason why Cocco did not play

queen drift
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rather than personally

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carpe clearly doesnt mind non koreans

nova wadi
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but sado does the exact same

queen drift
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mmm not really lol

night tusk
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well

queen drift
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fragi is a lot more aggressive than sado

nova wadi
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if anything i see him die a lot cause of overextending

night tusk
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what I do remember

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that avast said

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"it's about something silly"

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that he is not on stage/playtime

queen drift
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i dont think i heard tht

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all i heard was about you wont see carpe and fragi on stage at the same time

night tusk
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that was before he said that

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because he was not sure to tell lol

queen drift
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RIGHT

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right *(

trim shadow
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Babybay looks good in ref

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Red*

night tusk
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atleast he can show his skill

mint flower
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Agreed

night tusk
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but I guess Nlaar will play the tracer

mint flower
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Shocks colors are ugly imo

queen drift
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tracer is their weakness now

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nlaaer isnt a great tracer

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erster doesnt play her at all iirc

night tusk
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well I saw him ppopping off on

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uhmm

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freshnuts

queen drift
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on ladder

night tusk
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yeah ladder still

queen drift
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in one clip

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team tracer and ladder tracer is soooo different

trim shadow
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Wasnt shock pure orange last year

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And there gray and orange now

queen drift
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No I think shock is the same

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They may have changed the screen when they win

trim shadow
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Yea sennheiser

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Nutty day for trades

hidden vault
mint flower
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shocks colors are the same i think, but they swapped the colors
before it was primary orange, secondary gray
now it's vice versa

tawny sigil
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there is a saying... Don't say goats is dead, until its dead.

hidden vault
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It's here

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The juicy trades

mint turtle
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Pine was traded?

limber pine
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no

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NoTE for rCK

mint turtle
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Damn FeelsVerySadMan

limber pine
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Babybay to SFS

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Babybay not terribly surprising

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Note/rCK very surprising IMO

hidden vault
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Was this the trade aimgod was talking about?

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FAN ARE NOT GONNA BE HAPPY

fast basin
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that's actually a good deal i think...

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Coming from a fuel fan, of course

queen drift
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i mean yeah its fucking amazing for fuel

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terrible for boston

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imo

fast basin
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rCk for Note is quite the steal

hidden vault
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I think rck difd pretty well for stage one

fast basin
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Yeah, on Sombra.

hidden vault
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Ni reason to trade him

fast basin
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Sombra's not exactly the most useful now adays

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and Note is just a better off tank

hidden vault
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Sombra is still gonna be strong

fast basin
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Eh

hidden vault
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Is so why would boston let go of note?

fast basin
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idk

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rCk becomes canadian by joining boston

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clearly

limber pine
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maybe they want more flex

fast basin
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it was a secret plan

limber pine
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Note doesn't really play sombra

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not as well as rCK anyway

fast basin
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you're focusing too much on thinking

hidden vault
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And fuel wants to lose the flex?

limber pine
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

fast basin
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meh

hidden vault
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Note is a core player for boston

fast basin
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im sure Jayne was involved in getting that trade tho

hidden vault
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At this rate boston would really lose their fans

fast basin
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i mean

night tusk
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but they have mickie already Kapp

fast basin
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yeh

hidden vault
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Who is left from their original team lmao

fast basin
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I guess they're trying to shave some stuff off?

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kellex

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thats it i think

fast basin
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Get it, their sponsor is Gillete hehe im so funny

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