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shatter?
smh
okay emp ready
they just need to capitalize on the emp
yessssssssssssss
didnt needd it
yes defiant
lol
o no
yes
there having a hard time getting kills and utalizing some ults
damn yakpung got isolated hard
shock got that one
..
nooooooooo
they kinda earned that one
bad position sombra
lmao fk
report sombra for throwing
o well...
maybe if i jump here
Toronthrow?
yes like
what the heck
would you go the left side, with no translocator on cooldown, with high chance of getting booped off
if you went to the right
you could have EMP;d
All the teams I root seem to get destroyed smh...
Titans will destroy them anyways
i haven't been watching, what's been going on?
titans have it ez now
i'm less than interested in this game
torontos being dumb
whose winning
predicted

defiant should win kings row
but never know
shock me shock
iisnt envy a mediocre sombra?
lmaooo
y are they going sombra goats
theyre not confident in their own goats i guess
wow
Shock is doing more counterplay for sombra
than NYXL
what a shock
ok
I take it back
sombra swap pls
Shock should win this one
reported
Nenne'd the EMP
wow rascal
Apβstunned
imagine doing more counterplay to sombra in one stun
than the entirety of what NYXL did
pepega
one sided
dunked
this is so underwhelming..
damn while he was shattering
B O O P
however, how strong sfs may look
shock just ran through them
brutal
sfs will lose to either the three other teams
so are the other teams :_ but shock
Welp
Philly faces Shock
lost already 3-1 to Tians
Time to stop watxhing
there usually inconsistent with there skill
I think Shock has a good chance
titans*
This is a blood bath
that korean girl got throwing in the pit along with yakgapung
4-0*
theyll lose against titans
just they wont win from titans
they can win yes
Actually
sfs will roll fusiin
fusion isnt as strong and ATL could have won, but they keep doing the same mistakes
Profit
ATL makes so many consistent mistakes
it's a race war guys, korean domination has come to an end
but Philly is strong in of itself
I like how everyones ruling seoul out for stage 1 championship like they dont have 2 skilled teams and the fact they upset the undisputed best team in owl
oh no toronto
were talking about philly v shock...
Ping me when reverse sweep starts
wow
1 more seoul upset
wowowowow
sinatraa zarya is insane
actually it does depend
Titans main weakness is DPS
but I havent seen them face sombra in a long time
they cant surprise Titans with B roster
cause its Hyper Aggressive v Passive
@minor flame you montecristo in disguise
WAKE UP TO
god do i really sound like monte?
o no
yes, even your voice
lmao
alright i said 3-2 to 3-1
i honestly dont have much hopes for that now
at best its gonna be a 3-1
this is sad
sinatraa*
full hold
Does anyone known what version owl is played on?
too bad
the one before current patch
damn dude steamroll
π¦
@minor flame thanks
im so sad
sombra goats is op....unless your sombra sucks lol
haha
but yeah sin had free reign
oh definitely
by blizz standards
sombra is the next to be the scapegoat
and she either gets small nerfs
or nerfed to the ground
shes not even a scapegoat
i think sombra is fine but her emp could use some tuning
she is legitimately a bit overtuned in terms of emp
most sombras just throw
maybe ult charge demand can be increased or make emp hack less effective
other than that
shes pretty fine
I think the hack duration is pretty damn long too
I would say either nerf charge or make it not disable passives
6 secs is a lot in OW
they could nerf emp hack duration
its cooldown is also short
or just increase charge so it doesnt happen every fight with a half competent player
yeah it gets super annoying when you keep saving your ult because she ends up denying you every push or two
the only other nerf i see that would come
is like hack cd increase
cause their recent buff is weird
its like op but not op at the same time
she def didnt need that buff
idk
Weird thing to say now too
As a lucio main I like the changes
They are overall a buff
It was arguably one of the best balance changes they have made to a hero
Iβm including the boop buff in this too
send in the subs

lol
this is big sad
the mental shut down is real
oh they seem to have taken the point
l'm just gonna watch something else
i feel robbed. i want a good game. these 2 have just been disappointing
2 free ticks
getting absolutely flattened
Yeah rip Defiant.
QPs
^
Choihyobin just destroyed there plans.
They planned on sticking with Sombra.
But Choi just ended that.
didnt even touch
ResidentSleeper
c9?
you need high iq to play sombra
dear god
worse than c9
this is (sad to say) rather pathetic
have to exist to c9
this is very much toronto team
I'll be honest, I thought it was gonna be closer.
thats tuff ^
Defiant had a much better presence in any other match tbh.
doesnt defiant ahve like one of the easier schedules though
Choi would get player of the match for me.
I feel like Yakpung isnt doing much either.
neko roadkill
bad
Yakpung probably planned on having the sombra.
yeah hes a bad rien
Regardless he isnt doing much.
such a staggerrrr
:(((
damn this was only an hour wtf
good
wtf r they doing
sad

Choi just destroyed sombra.

?

isnt it over?
No it's over.
not yet
this is so short they should give them one
they could full hold
should be
and cause a draw
this is going to be a 4-0
They wont.
no
It's over.
i mean they wont, but its still a window
no
damn
you HAVE to have 3 wins
Just end the suffering
draws dont count
tie?
shock win
on 5 min?
but what if thye get draw here, and win in next two maps
COME ON TO
tele to point
that was close.
this is going to be sad
UHHh
LMAO
nope
wow sym pick lmao
sym and widow
Disrespect
hubris
what if they draw here and go 2-2
should have had junk
what's the last map?
the maps keep going until 3 wins
3 in a row??
they will have a super ult advantage now
@dreamy cave First team to get 3 wins.
GGWP
game ending shatter.
oof
welp
lmao
Depressing
crushing
ha, that kid almost gets hit by camera
time to wake them up and tell them they lost
boring match 
Viewers lost that round
so philly vs san fran
lol true
last two days had boring second matches
56 mins
yeah
I'm routing for Seoul.
if seoul beats Vancouver they should be near top of the overall standings
GRAB THAT MIC
Just flat out outcoached. Not bad.
lmao
I think Vancouver is going to win but I have hopes for Seoul.
stop grabbing the mic lol
how well does titans play against sombra?
why do they all grab the mic
Thats true.
fun bracket
in a world where its seoul vs phili for the last round...
PHILLY HYPE
wowww
you know what time is tomorrow games?
Baba yetu
2 pm pst
thanks
not true, 12:00 pm
lol k, thanks
Oh so it is automatic to your time zone.
yes
oh 2 pm cst for me i mean
do you guys have any predictions for who will make finals?
i remember they play in pst but im cst and i read 2 pm so i got everything mixed
titans
if seoul and philly make it to finals everyones power rankings is fucked
I'm surprised Seoul beat NYXL tbh
So I kinda wish Seoul to upset everyone.
Beat the two teams that were on a win streak.
seoul has a good sombra
True.
and they have plans for each person that sombra hacks
seoul has a good sombra but its not like nyxl did anything to counterplay
playing sombra against passive nyxl is easier than playing against
hyper aggressive titans
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yea, the ways to counter sombra is trans before the emp or rush the rest of the team while sombra is trying to build emp
Or just hide the supports.
as long as you can emp the zen so he cant trans and basically instantly dies its often more than enough
I still feel like Titans are going to win.
yeah

super
@blissful robin weve discusessed it a millions times he was trying to grav the cloacked sombra
But executed it wrong
still funny
Yes...yes it is
Desperate
Acting on what he saw instead of being smart
Nyxl had a 20% chance to win that last fight
why 20
So he was basically a hyena looking for oppurtunity
Sombra was 3% from ult
I think fissure had his ult
The grav was up
And maybe a support ult
sombra was 3% from ult
Sooo that emp on final point rialto will catch almost anyone
All michelle had todo was catch the supports
when u can split front and back line
And michelle was coming from the left
So he was looking for jjonak
evidently
Since jjonak was the key to if nyxl won or not
He had his trance
so dumb

jjonak didn't play very good at all
In goats
jjonak was useless
Now hold up
Jjonak had his lowest game
twilight > jjonak
But he was no near useless
So the basis nyxl lost because of jjonak
no
nyxl lost in a combined effort of mistakes
yup
mano set his feed drive to warp speed
Mano got pokpoβed
Absolutely deleted before the fight even started
Triggered my ptsd
Also it was more a combination of all the factors for the Nenne grav.
Biggest factors - Sombra close to ult, assumed to have ult.
Time remaining: 2 seconds, you can't separate from the cart much at that point.
NYXL - 6 ults up, can afford to use the grav if it means a pick.
The throw of the game had also happened two minutes prior.
Which was a potato Trans by Jjonak.
Basically 20% chance to win and i can hear the comms before that geav
korean screaming
Which was thrown in too early, and lost them their push momentum because they didn't translate the aggro trans to kills.
And curse words
Jjonak trancing on ilios to try and make his team fight was a big fat lul
oh fuck is this ladder
Either way its just showing that e-sports are just regular sports but sitting down.
I think that was the first offensive trance this stage
Seoul played the game at their pace and didn't adjust to playing into NYXL's
And the teams that control the flow of the game wins them
*cough san fran *
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if true, this aligns well with the big surprise for the latter half of the year
Atlanta too, they did not adjust to Philly's cadence.
Even though Phillys cadence was very...
Stumbly.
I would say atlanta couldnt clean up the fights
Dafran was terrified at the end and held his grav to long
They also went for the wrong first picks. EQO should have been priority.
Philly did a great job of punishing Dafran, to be fair.
They never let him get away with an overextend.
And he overextends a lot.
Bren's tune sure changed π
I do enjoy how pretty much every stage playoff match has been an upset though
Minus Boston/Vancouver.
uh
boston was only allowed into playoffs by vancouver's grace
Im gonna keep riding on seoul upsetting vancouver and winning stage 2
1*
From the fucking dirt basically
Scrapped into playoffs
Had a up and down stage 1
..
And somehow unseated new york
i hate this
@supple prism please dont remind me of that c9
stfu sideshow, get some leave in conditioner
who died?
i really need 4 tokens for my next skin.
looool
i know right, i need like 20 more for 400
So the results of the matches so far show pretty well why this whole Pacific/Atlantic thing is a bloody joke - congrats league, your reserved seed for an Atlantic seed got knocked out by a Pacific team.
nice
I was checking and matching dates
We should be getting Hero 31 with the start of stage 4, right?
And new map in stage 3?
paris was delayed
the next map might also be (and all subsequent maps)
heroes are still on regular scheduling
@gaunt acorn Don't think they will change the schedule of other maps.
Previously it was broken
Switching the Blizzcon map to February actually fixed the schedule
They announced Paris being in the stage 2 map pool the other day when they said about swapping Escort and Assault.
what was the point swaping the map types again?
Did philly lose?
Because draws were more likely to occur on Assault.
Which meant that by map 2 the match could be decided.
It meant strategies were being played on map 3 to try to draw things out more. Swapping them means teams can't really use that tactically.
Thank god
so titans vs seoul and then philly vs shock
then titans vs shock
no
titans vs phili
hero 31
echo ?
wait no
tank, dps, heal
so next might be a tank again?
@idle beacon there's not some kind of rotational order
they said back at blizzcon that ashe was their last dps hero for awhile, and they wanted to beef up the tank/support categories to be more on par
ashe should be the last dps for awhile
tanks and supporst are underwhelming
compared
that's basically what geoff goodman said
i think there's a good chance echo is next, and she'll probably be a support
knowing blizz
theyd prob delay it with another unpredicted hero
and then be like hey echo lol
i mean, they kind of already did
they teased/introduced her back during the blizzcon ashe reveal
then we got ashe & baptiste
jeff said echo wasn't hero 29 (that was ashe), but would be coming soon-ish
so echo could likely be hero 31 or 32
baptiste is 30
i meant 31/32, yeah
Just heard that the VAL/BOS deal is dead in the water. I'm looking for additional details or other options being pursued by teams at the moment.

LOL dogmanβs parents won the raffle for the soldier statue signed by fusion
448
anyone else hate the titans color scheme
its legit like someone on the team puked and was like "thats it!"
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Done
Feels like a school project haha
I feel that fusion with sado and hotba as their tanks is alot stronger
But yet they traded hotba away hmm
When did hotba get traded
Off season

If we are being realistic here its 
if we just ignore the l from seoul
Seoul wont beat vancouver
Yep
They won on a fluke
Dafran is currently watching 10 hours chika dancing on stream
His coping gets weirder and weirder
also fun thing to note they play nx first and also twice next stage
I would watch chaika to cope with my grav getting eaten 5 times
hello what time does the semifinals start and what day is it on
today at 2:00 and 5:00 I belive
pst time right?
@limber pine more not being able to clean up fights
Next stage to shine
I believe in nlaeer erster and dafran to evolve into a great dps trio
Waiting to see who they sign in the signing period
hot take pokpo is the weakest link of reign
dogman played fine yesterday and the one time he almost fed he killed sado
Who is ready for seoul to roll Vancouver?
Ye no
i dont habe any bias towards any owl team
I want
to win π¦
Im the leader of a clan and was looking how to get into the competitive scene. Like how to get into tournaments for money,etc.
Any advice
What if all the Korean players are super humble and say really nice things but the translator guy pretends that theyβre trash talking
Jjonak βJehong is my good friend, I have a ton of respect for himβ
βHe says heβs going to murder Jehong if he sees himβ
Possible
Ugh, I'm probably gonna miss most of the first match
Ill miss en all cause work
who gon be there to watch seoul get stomped?
they need revenge for what they did to my nyxl
4-0 for vancouver
Yep. Defiant got stomped
ye I saw 3-0 but do you see shock win from philly ?
yay~~
Bumper vs Fissure 
yesterday all fans were silent and now they are loud
paid actors ? π€
@fallen cloak they only play until 3 wins
danny β€
I think it's bo7 or not ?
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π #TOBI
βοΈ @ow_fleta (#FLETA)
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π‘ @ow_MARVE1 (#MARVE1)
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my prediction is titans and shock will win
same
have they been playing tobi much? doesnt seem like it
It's just first to 3
I think like NYXL just on control
im glad theyre playing them
you know i wish seoul would win but i think my dreams will be shattered
seoul atleast used all their players to win from NYXL. NYXL have 3 on bench
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π #TOBI
βοΈ @ow_fleta (#FLETA)
βοΈ @Fits_ow (#FITS)
π‘ @ow_MARVE1 (#MARVE1)
π‘ @wg1646 (#ZUNBA)
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Passive v Hyper Aggressive
fl0w3r, SBB & uh pine right?
ye
all dps players so its not surprising
do you really think b team can beat vancouver?
bean do you in general think seoul can beat vanc
youre forcing aggressive to go aggressive
cause i doubt it either way
tobi 3th best lucio in stats (ye he have not much playtime) but zunba is pog aswell
Titans sound like they have so much fun
im pretty sure bumper is the luckiest motherfucker in the league
γ γ γ γ γ γ
bumpers dreams being shattered when seoul win from them 
seoul?
bumper is hilarious
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DAY 3 MATCHES
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hard disagree~
shock?
@fallen cloak next stage
because EU
i think philly can win from shock tho
pine too?
after 00:00 you see shock vs philly I guess @nova wadi
when goats dies nyxl will let pine and sbb out of the basement
@night tusk probably but it should still show either way
it's Bo7 btw https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/match/20305
hope seoul don't lose 0-4 lol
considering bumper is the luckiest motherfucker ever hell destroy fissure with a random charge frm spawn
i'm rooting for seoul aswell 
but if they dont and philly wins it will be fusion vs vanc right
u know there is a theory that who ever have hooreg on the bench will carry luck with them
why does it kinda sound like it will be easy win for vanc
how will vanc perform in other metas tho lul
why does every OWL player let their mom cut their hair
thats just how koreans look
Whoa I didnβt know it was bo7
they all get it done from korean ahjumma shops
Nate: ur 7th seed.. you beat 2th? here now you go to play against 1st seed
ABC
only root for the best teams so you dont get mad when they lose because they barely ever lose
NYXL fans thought the same
im an nyxl fan
but i only have like 2 xl skins because i need money
i like sideshow
ABC PogU
ok
guys theyre on abc
they should show twitch chat on ABC
lets go seoul
nah vanc
just imagine
what is the point of showing random matches on ABC lol
its like espn randomly showing a random NBA game but never air NBA games any other time lmao
im fine as long as its not shock lol
philly can win from shock
WHY DO ALL THE KOREANS LOOK LIKE THEY DONT WANT TO BE THERE
probably tired
wut ? titans always look like they're having the time of their lives
do u ever look like u wanna be at ur workplace?
if they beat nyxl (even tho it was a bit cheese) i think theyll give them a hard match
hopefully they put up a good fight but might be fatigued
Sideshow watches football
suprised
Why does monte always look like a 60s western flick villain
only if seoul knows how to play him
HE SAID 4-1 WTF
ye its bo7
@trim shadow LMAO
i feel like bumper is gonna try n cheese and is not gonna work. there not gonna fall for bumpers tricks
I told that 3 times
wth is that shirt lol
make bumper play winston and ezwin
ikr
can be 9 maps if 2 draws lol
cause bumper isnt a good winston
Monte just got back from the hoedown at houstons team house
wow
Missing his hat tho
everyone is spamming trihard and im the only one that gets timed out
YEE HAW
nice.
got the beats as they walk in
it really bugs me how she says it
we say dinasty in europe
ay you guys seen DEnasty?
pretty sure thats just what we say with an american accent
lmao i was waiting for that
awww
imagine if runaway loses
what do you mean imagine
RERWEA
runaway literally cannot lose
runaway will lose
they arent playing π
they always did
i would rip out my lungs for jehong
fair
i thought you were a fissure slut
tobi π¦
why jehong now
lmao i do like fissure
this is apex s5 bois
but i loooove jehong
seoul is immediately so low
bye bye seoul
poor seoul
ugh to much explaining
cause its on TV
its a gamble running b team against vanc
gotta explain it to people who dont know much about the game
ye ik,
fleta is stronger than hacksal
oh noo
imagine if they made like a wowl of just women
fissure is more aggro
playing passive against hyper runaway
ARE THEY GIVING TUTORIALS DURING THE OWL MATCHES
yes, because this is being aired on a network as big as the ones that carry the NFL
holy crap did bumper get 2 Earthshatters in a single fight?
probably
lmao they should lower the audience for ABC
π¦
does anyone even expect seoul to win this
no
but legit who is looking on abc and being like "hmm ive never seen this game imma keep watching"
Seoul cant do well against high aggression and displacement, which Titans are masters at
i expect seoul to put up a fight.
@fallen cloak thats exactly what i thought too
Me: βSeoul I believe in y- oh...β
not surprising
They will win Season 1 for sure, but Season 2 will give them a lot of difficulty
yep
marve1's style is a benefit against nyxl but bad against van
you are right i agree
Stage2 will be jarring for Titans
i dont think vanc is t hat good at other metas
but Titans is Runaway
Runaway has been consistently great like each meta
so they will adapt eventually
Runaways tends to have difficulty with some of the anti goats comps
chengdu and charge smile
so they will be hard at practice to cover themselves for the next meta comp
CHOMP
NA gravs PogU
yum yum yum
lol the gravs both eaten
they become stubborn to switch
Zarya mains are crying
Runaways has some really good non goats comps, but they havent practiced it in a while
marve1 is afraid
i mean when i saw bumper playing winston against chengdu it was pepega
Runaway will have difficulty at the start of Stage 2
but by the mid stage 2 they should be better
throwback to when daco said "i dont eat lunch because i eat gravs for dinner"
Yeah, they will recover midway through stage 2, but paris is going to be devastating stage 2
SD without fissure today?
@green stump with new metas coming you think chengdu and charge will be more dominant?
oof
map 1 ez
@idle beacon only this map.
Fissure will come in soon
ah ok
EZ
Chengdu wont be much more dominant
pls fissure
Charge will be noticably better
Fissue wont do shit against this team though
Next stage is actually harder for Chengdu
@nova wadi Hmmmmm not sure yet, It depends on the direction of the meta,
With the Double sniper (Widow Ashe) and Old Dive showing themselves once more, we dont know yet...but 321 is still the top meta atm for pros
out of curiosoty .. is titans even able playing anything else than goats ?
cause their offmeta will become the meta
no
oh
aight
Jehong walks up to casters βwe forfeit this match. Good nightβ
@idle beacon Yes, they have one of the most DIVERSE comp libraries of the korean teams
what if Chengdu plays GOATS in stage 2 lmao
i didnt ask if they dont want to.. i was wondering if they also have insane dps playres
yup
yea
i love how theyre explaining everything for new vierers loll
they have pretty insane dps
nyxl has insane dps
educational stream
but they dont get a chance to use them
so does Paris
fl0w3r is washed up
and Titans do
we dont see insane 4k from pine this season
and we dont know how pine will play
because goats is meta
pine is sick
They will likely be saving Pine for Stage 2
if youre good u can play widow in goats meta
sbb can play widow
chengdu
and im pretty sure libero can play anything
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a hero could release and libero would be a pro at that hero 10 minutes later

