My friend insisted NY was, and that Vancouver was third behind NY and London and that NY was ahead by a lot
#esports-discussion
solar olive
minor flame
maybe you should stop blaming everything on Blase and focus on how the team is doing shit right now
trim shadow
2-3 philly 2-3 a strong dps chengdu and 3-1 toronto
gilded peak
Not sure if Fusions is underperforming or he is just being outshined by Titans.
minor flame
if anyone can beat Ttians
trim shadow
and no one knew how to play chengdu
minor flame
its Shock
trim shadow
SO IT WAS EXPECTED
solar olive
Since I only see OWL occasionally and it's mostly either TO or Vancouver when I do (sometimes Dynasty), I miss a lot
minor flame
could be both
gilded peak
Shocks got destroyed though?
solar olive
I believed her
night tusk
well I remember shanghai have 3-2 with dallas than 4-0 ?
dreamy cave
toronto isnt that good IMO
minor flame
Shock faced agaisnt Titans?
trim shadow
imagine if funnyastro decided to sign with boston
gilded peak
The Jannuke happened
minor flame
now look what hapepned now
night tusk
you can never know
dreamy cave
its underdog day
minor flame
OWL is full of upsets
gilded peak
True
trim shadow
i mean nyxl had 4-0 seoul
night tusk
OW esports *
minor flame
3-1
trim shadow
and then seoul did them a bamboozle
night tusk
unless contenders team playing against fusion university
dreamy cave
this is there first ever win against them. wait until there next match
dreamy cave
nyxl and seoul
solar olive
I hear TO is kind of just in the middle, but I'm Canadian so I have to support them and Vancouver
night tusk
@dreamy cave they won from NYXL and London the first time this stage
molten skiff
LOL BUMPER
night tusk
well this game is done ..
solar olive
I'll always support the Canadian teams first, so yeah
night tusk
gg
gilded peak
I effing love Jannu bomb XD
inland pawn
wtf
gilded peak
He keeps pushing his bomb lol
solar olive
Vancouver made that look easy
dreamy cave
thats a sad match
minor flame
V ancouver makes everything look easy
pastel grove
i mean we knew this was gonna happen
molten skiff
i lived in toronto long enough to never cheer for toronto if there is another canadian team
austere parcel
Oh well, see y'all tomorrow for the games
dreamy cave
they picked a map the other team was good at n then played there mirror n lost
solar olive
I don't know anything about the players so yea
outer cypress
so how did tie btwn shock and seoul go
inland pawn
@molten skiff i live in toronto too 😃
dreamy cave
i think shock will beat toronto n seoul
outer cypress
nah
outer cypress
not toronto
supple prism
seoul is making me nervous for shock now
outer cypress
maybe seoul
trim shadow
im calling seoul winning it all
molten skiff
we never saw it
dreamy cave
i live in Georgia so im a Atlanta reign fan
trim shadow
as a born and raised atlanta boy i am screaming right now
molten skiff
and it might have been seoul's plan to throw that tiebreaker match to go against nxl
dreamy cave
@trim shadow lets hope they do very well
minor flame
honestly now that I htink about it
I dont think Seoul was planning to throw that one
unless it was some last min decision
molten skiff
if vancouver was in inaugural season, i probably wouldve been vancouver fan first
molten skiff
i used to like runaway so
molten skiff
seoul be like
trim shadow
goats is unpredictable
and yes i switched up on seoul
i decided to root for all expansion teams
minor flame
Seoul
molten skiff
"we are too good, we have more chance of fighting NYXL with coin toss than playing that game"
"we will accidentally win"
night tusk
back in the Lunatic Hai vs Runaway match
minor flame
has a chance against Shock
molten skiff
lawl
night tusk
how many maps is stage finals ?
trim shadow
7*
minor flame
?
forest raven
Semis and Grand are bo7
night tusk
2 draws on the finals again 
dreamy cave
i dont like some of the new teams, spark and paris being a bit disappointing. i thought they would do well
molten skiff
it will be seoul vs the second highest seed
molten skiff
im so happy paris is disappointing
dreamy cave
everyone got rein spark skin n turns out there not that great
molten skiff
rogue losing will always bring smile to my face
boreal bronze
@opal spruce @supple spear unless Boston completes the upset, it looks like I won’t be tattooing mercy on my left ass cheek
night tusk
people got the spark skin just because pink LUL
boreal bronze
I told them I would tattoo mercy on my left ass cheek if Boston won
night tusk
I have rein Titans skin because bumper lol
dreamy cave
i have rein atlanta cuz im from atlanta, ill represent even if they end up being bad throughout the whole thing
opal spruce
@boreal bronze well thats good cause my screenshot got the wrong monitor
trim shadow
ahh cringe comercials about fake owl fans
dreamy cave
lol
trim shadow
rip valiant
think endo said if they cant work together in a team meta
theyll falter in a dps meta
dreamy cave
@trim shadow im scared if atlanta wins they wont b able to beat the titans
boreal bronze
Yup
north beacon
I root for NY more when SBB and pine are on. Waiting for DPS meta to come back
dreamy cave
yeah, i miss them
boreal bronze
Well get comfortable because no dps heroes will be played anytime soon. Goats is the meta
dreamy cave
looking at my watch, waiting for pine time
pastel grove
atl isn't gonna beat fusion lol
boreal bronze
^
trim shadow
atlanta is gonna beat fusions
dreamy cave
id bet u
oblique stratus
I’m a justice and cause I’m from dc, they seem to be following the trend of most dc teams 😔
boreal bronze
Gladiators has good players
minor flame
ATL
dreamy cave
that was 1 game after there sweeping
boreal bronze
Atlanta is a bottom middle pack team
hidden vault
Send sado to justice lol
boreal bronze
Janus is better than Sado
molten skiff
can zarya even make that jump?
pastel grove
justice for fragi
molten skiff
what seominsoo was trying
dreamy cave
ik atl isnt top tier, but i think they have the potential to beat some middle teams that being fusion, shock, and outlaws
trim shadow
atlanta is a wild card
boreal bronze
Fusion went to the playoffs, they are good lol
trim shadow
so no knows if theyre actually good
pastel grove
fusion is a middle team?
pastel grove
what did they finish at last season again?
minor flame
or mehh
boreal bronze
They went to the playoffs. How many playoffs did Atlanta go to?
pastel grove
went to the playoffs
boreal bronze
Well we will see 👀
north beacon
So full hold is series win right?
molten skiff
yeah
dreamy cave
both teams are still a bit of a mix in skill
north beacon
Do they even play the next round since its playoffs?
worn hornet
did that super-toxic uprising fan finally get banned?
worn hornet
I notice he's non in here starting shit
dreamy cave
oh stabalize
north beacon
Yay 2CP
trim shadow
holy shit vancouver is op
north beacon
Why did twilight trans?
solar trout
bumper don't
dreamy cave
hes dead
solar trout
he ded
solar trout
bumper=bait
mint flower
this game is such a stomp
mint flower
I stopped watching after the first round of kings row
dreamy cave
if i had to put it in to terms.... they have a thread a specific needle out of thousands
night tusk
Twitter
north beacon
A couple of map losses/draws for titans in stage 1 and NY would be the ones with this easy fight
dreamy cave
nenne DX
north beacon
Bad ult efficiency
dreamy cave
mhmm
balmy wolf
wow nyxl not making it to the stage finals, what a surprise
dreamy cave
nice hold
supple prism
this doesnt look as stompy as people thought
north beacon
I say Boston wins next 2 team fights then loses the 3rd
dreamy cave
anubis is hard to cap in general tbh
minor flame
this is pretty stompy ngl
dreamy cave
pretty stompy
north beacon
Bumper go sneak behind and shatter them
dreamy cave
nothing sneak about that
worn hornet
watching this match my money's on Vancouver to take the stage
dreamy cave
they still have ult advantage
north beacon
lol lucky guess
supple prism
ok they cant delay well
night tusk
EZ lol
minor flame
this is the easiest fuckin match titans have
tawny sigil
oh boy 3-0 ... as expected
quasi stump
rekt
north beacon
lol bumper with a huge smile shaking hands like “ok gtfo now”
balmy wolf
first win against nyxl too
worn hornet
yeah seoul pulled off a crazy upset
dreamy cave
i still call it a fluke
night tusk
if seoul was rekt today, than today was not fun
north beacon
So is it titans vs Seoul in semis?
mint flower
he looks so nervous
night tusk
I don't mind how this is since seoul vs nyxl was already fun enough
north beacon
Scary
night tusk
omg seoul have to play them ?
limber pine
teams get reseeded for semis
mint flower
titans will win
dreamy cave
titans
balmy wolf
don't be so sure
mint flower
60 40 in favor of titans
minor flame
Seoul has a chance but
dreamy cave
if soul wins, ill be surprised
mint flower
I think it'll be somewhat close
umbral dawn
NYXL lost vs Seoul, so does that mean we won't see NYXL vs Titans on finals?
mint flower
but titans will come out on top
dreamy cave
if titans dont try funny stuff
mint flower
@umbral dawn unfortunately not
umbral dawn
rip
dreamy cave
theyll win
trim shadow
ahh fuck i didnt even realize jayne was live
north beacon
Will DPS comp throw titans off?
dreamy cave
tho against a sombra, i dk
umbral dawn
I wanted to see that match so much
limber pine
umbral dawn
Seeing how they 4-0 the charge nope
north beacon
lol those Boston fans.... are so Boston looking
dreamy cave
theres another game tomorrow?
umbral dawn
Disappointed no NYXL vs Titans
balmy wolf
nyxl choke once again
earnest canopy
That would have been a hype match
balmy wolf
the curse of lw blue
trim shadow
im the dumbass who was looking away from the game when nenne wiffed the grav
i just heard screaming and i was like fuck
dreamy cave
if he landed the grav it would have been a far differnt outcome, lets be honest.
earnest canopy
Yep
umbral dawn
Yup
dreamy cave
i think they only had lucio ult.
trim shadow
but if i remember correctly michelle had a emp
earnest canopy
Without the sumbra ult, that fight would have been more in nyxls favour, enough to go to game 5 I reckon.
dreamy cave
true
earnest canopy
NYXL are patient enough to know when to retreat to reform, then push again, even against a lucio ult
dreamy cave
if u had to build a goats dream team?
earnest canopy
Ohhhh
Hmmm
I'd honestly have to go with a Sombra goats instead of 3 3
Much more versatility
Even though it lacks the ult eating ability.
minor flame
nah
trim shadow
so its more nenne didnt wiff the grav
minor flame
if they gravved sombra
trim shadow
HE WAS TRYING TO SOLO GRAV MICHELLE
minor flame
it wouldnt make much of a diff
trim shadow
so nenne was tilted
minor flame
honestly
Nenne wasnt more tilted its more like he took a huge risk
afraid of Michelle again
trim shadow
that fucking mexican 
- nenne
urban viper
Lets go titans!!
worn hornet
YOU FUCKING HACKING BITCH
—Also Nenne
trim shadow
jesus christ jonak died 34 times to ryu's 22
earnest canopy
Bumper rein, Spree zarya, biggoose lucio, jjonak zen, mickee brig, dding Sombra. That's my team
trim shadow
i havent seened someone hard targetted like that since pokpo
pearl stratus
Fair take by Sideshow on the Nenne grav.
If he'd landed it he would have been a hero.
earnest canopy
^
trim shadow
to the average gold ow player it was nenne throwing
to coaches it was nenne risking everything on a invisy bitch
pearl stratus
With the camera angles we saw to everyone it was throwing.
It's only in review we saw why.,
trim shadow
id rather the grav getting eaten then the grav being wiffed on a squishy that i cant see
pearl stratus
Which is the way of the world really. Perspective tells everything
trim shadow
michelle didnt even realized he was being targetted lul
pearl stratus
It was, realistically, the right play.
trim shadow
the safe call shouldve been hey guys theres a sombra to the left
and he shouldve just lobbed shots to reveal her
then grav
pearl stratus
Michelle could have just recalled. He only needed 3% ult, remember.
And if their ult tracking is on point they would have known Michelle was at/nearly at EMP./
So with 2 seconds left on the map you can't give him the chance to recall and just come back in
They couldn't leave the cart either, so it snot like they could outplay the sombra in that choke.
Michelle was basically gauranteed to get as 4+ person EMP.
balmy wolf
Holy fuck I respect Nenne´s graph on Sombra so fucking much
pearl stratus
I'm not 100% sure it was the best play, but I understand fully WHY he did it seeing it on the replay.
earnest canopy
It was, at the time, the best play make, from the info they had at the time.
None of the players are omnipotent so I respect the decision
balmy wolf
Yepp, getting the Sombra pick at Overtime and denying EMP for that time would have been huge as their TF doesnt need the grav anyways in the 5v6 then
pearl stratus
Also most of NYXL was at ult at that point, so it had the potential to snowball for a cap.
balmy wolf
Yepp
Imagine making that decision in like 300ms with a kind of perfect flicked Grav
If Michelle wouldnt have pathed so awkwardly it would have been such a 300iq play
dreamy cave
he wasnt close enough to unreveal him. if he had, then graved. that would have been good
balmy wolf
Naw he would have recalled instantly
dreamy cave
if the whole team turned to sombra, it would have been a big problem
not out of grav
balmy wolf
No I mean unreveal with laser/bomb then grav as you meant
dreamy cave
oh, well yeah
balmy wolf
As soon as he would have been revealed he would have recalled without the grav touching, which would have literally wasted the grav and THAT outplay would be like the biggest outplay this stage
So I think his play was the highest IQ there
dreamy cave
still tho
to get the grav that close on a mere guess on where he was
was god like spider senses
balmy wolf
Literally so good its insane
worn hornet
yeah on the replay it looks like it was basically 50/50 on which door michelle picked
dreamy cave
left made most sense
balmy wolf
the shimmer out of his Peripheral vision
worn hornet
Well my opinion of Super just went up
balmy wolf
well he was literally in the doorframe there
supple prism
super is great when he guests on anyones stream
dreamy cave
fissure i think is better than bumper
balmy wolf
Bumper is a redditmeme Reinhardt
dreamy cave
true
balmy wolf
He goes apeshit, enemys cant really react to such a pepega engage and they are confused while his team clears up behind him
supple prism
titans not on the list?
dreamy cave
nah
supple prism
imagine dropping $2k in bits to OWL
dreamy cave
i mean the team is good, but i dont graveitate toward them to like them
balmy wolf
Never heard from Titans until I saw them literally raping through those matches its crazy
supple prism
but its runaways
worn falcon
imagine having money for bits
balmy wolf
But the Soul clap again NYXL shakes up the predictions so much its crazy
worn falcon
worn hornet
#D'Nyasty
dreamy cave
atlanta will slay. they must. for it is my birthday month.
with whatever luck i obtain on this time i put it towrds the team
umbral dawn
Since Seoul won, does that mean Lunatic Hai vs Runaway
supple prism
mines next month so philly better next stage
dreamy cave
well, ill be back tomorrow. good thing it aires after i get off from work
feel bad for night shift ppl
quasi vector
ruby pendant
nice
shame that NYXL got defeated this early, hopefully they learn and get ready for stage 2!
simple badger
NYXL always chokes in playoffs lol
supple prism
idk about always
delicate solstice
nyxl threw that match
whats the word, sandbagged?
honestly looked like they might have pulled the same thing NA did at the world cup. probably overlooked the dynasty and it came back to bite them in the butt
gaunt acorn
seoul sandbagged stage 1 just to beat nyxl
nyxl are sandbagging amateurs
true chad sandbaggers seoul deserved to win
forest raven
Seoul spent an entire season sandbagging
hidden vault
Seoul is gonna win Vancouver next;)
gaunt acorn
not gonna happen
uneven wren
not in a million years
supple prism
maybe be more american next time
fallen cloak
eagle screech in background
supple prism
sideshow is back
hidden vault
Seoul won nyxl
supple prism
yes
tawny sigil
its a bit complex to explain in 1 sentence
idle beacon
well could'also be to hide what they're actually up to 😄
but i am actually happy SD won
last season i disliked SD
gaunt acorn
they didn't throw a whole stage to hide strats
idle beacon
now i like'm
tawny sigil
MAH BOYZ ... the dynasty!
idle beacon
not throwing
gaunt acorn
nyxl just wasn't prepared and seoul practiced hard
idle beacon
just not giving their best
tawny sigil
can you beleive that shit... they delivered when it mattered the most
gaunt acorn
nyxl was scrimming for vancouver
gaunt acorn
titans are pretty undisputedly the best team in the league, currently
supple prism
i think seoul was doing better but nyxl was also doing worse for some reason
idle beacon
worse?
sd were damn prepare
d
and did the right thing
playing around the bigmouth jjonak
and well on volskaya
that unlucky grav from fleta
and the very lucky dva bomb
kept them from losing that match faster 😛
supple prism
yea but nyxl did lose fights that they should have won if they just didnt let low healthed targets go
gaunt acorn
so aquilini group (vancouver owners) are buying luminosity in full?
Twitter
Twitter
idle beacon
why are they buying a gaming organisation?
srsly
i dont understand that
and whynot SK if u wanna buy a gaming org
gaunt acorn
@idle beacon luminosity is the org operating the vancouver titans
spring heath
y’all overestimate michelle’s sombra
gaunt acorn
vancouver win clap
spring heath
ez win lmao
fuck Boston
O ya n just in general lmao
but doubt it would’ve been a 4+ emp just gotta split front from back line
minor flame
overrating michelles sombra is hard when michelle gets them at a rapid rate
idle beacon
@gaunt acorn am i mixing luminosoty gaming with something else?
minor flame
and gets like 4-6 ppl each time
idle beacon
what was the dude called, back when OW came out
this insane widow
god or some shit like that?
wasn't he playing for lg ?
gaunt acorn
@idle beacon are you?
luminosity is responsible for day-to-day operations of the titans
minor flame
luminosity gaming had their own esports team very early in ow i believe
gaunt acorn
@idle beacon godsb? he plays for spark now
minor flame
hold on what is godsb
oh yeah
hes the zarya
i thought he was the brig
Bazzi is the brig
ruby pendant
godsb can play any dps, dude wrecked runaway with doom lol( forgot which apex season)
idle beacon
so is dray talking of luminosity or luminosity gaming .. i am damn confused, eh
gaunt acorn
@idle beacon ..?
the org itself
luminosity gaming
the org that operates the titans, among other things
luminosity has not been an ow team for like 2 years
idle beacon
@gaunt acorn yea i know. the org i mean also had that very strong brasil csgo team (now @ sk) .. r u talking of that organisation?
gaunt acorn
it's.. the same org
idle beacon
ok
tawny sigil
oh man... just cant get over it...
mah boyz the dynasties
love me some underdoge story
nova wadi
im so surprised
sullen berry
@tawny sigil I've looked up how many timea you've called Seoul your Boyz, much respect for fits and esp. Marvel
tawny sigil
every underdog is mah boyz
sullen berry
They're tigers
Last year it was tough love tigers
Now it's Top Tier Tigers Season 2
tawny sigil
where is that clip of that jehong trying to huge i forget who from london
orchid lava
who is in the other bracket?
magic birch
when you sandbag before the season is even over
fathom acorn
Jjonak is currently crying in the shower
While the rest of his team quits to play Minecraft
Also nenne is just dead
magic birch
nenne way hes getting out of that one
trim shadow
Jjonak eating salt after he couldnt keep his promise to ryu
karmic grotto
Nenne getting traded to DC becuz of bad gameplay
if you gonna playbad, might as well go to DC, budget nyxl
trim shadow
this just in nenne traded to dc for throwing
karmic grotto
But I know that feel, one mistake that makes you lost the match
trim shadow
corey joins nyxl
But on a serious note now that i look back on that grav
That was extremely risky
ruby pendant
lol
magic birch
washington going full korean
trim shadow
Man it really look like nenne was throwing from the stream perspective
i hear the zarya ult but where the fuck is it
why is the grav in the wall a mile from the fucking team
I wish i saw it as it was happening and didnt have to look back at it
karmic grotto
I was watching normalviewer
randomly I see grav on the left side near a wall
I was like: what the fuck
50% high risk high reward move
trim shadow
@karmic grotto most of us reviewed yesterday and he was trying to grav the sombra
to cripple seouls ult
orchid lava
Michelle carried them lol
upper niche
Doesn't matter, they won.
karmic grotto
Not sure if it's a carry, I see it more like playing the right hero to shutdown nyxl, but I can't deny Michelle is fucking good
pearl stratus
You can't actually recall out of grav, my recall comment at the time was based on someone saying he should have just right clicked to reveal.
plush iris
i though michelle sombra sometime poor but then again my mind is not right because i epxect DDing type playing style to much.
pearl stratus
And revealing Michelle would have still lost them the game, he was too close to ult.
That point, and that choke, specifically is a Sombra playground because you're almost always gauranteed at least 4 people on an EMP.
Factor in the fact they had 2 seconds till overtime so they would need to stay on the cart?
random fulcrum
i think it really just shows the power of hack and emp
pearl stratus
It's illustrated more because of that point.
On another map NYXL would have had more space.
But the doorways on the final point of C for Rialto are so confined.
random fulcrum
well, in the sense that nene thought it was worth it to solo grav sombra
it's that much of a threat/enabler that sure, solo grav
pearl stratus
In the picture of everything it had to be.
NYXL had just about 6 ults online.
So trading 1:1 on a kill then pushing 6v5 with the remaining ults means you win the fight.
It might have been worth it to solo grav just about anyone in that situation it confirmed a kill.
Sombra is just gauranteed to be the best choice.
karmic grotto
luck factor played a role here, or maybe Michelle's positioning was good
pearl stratus
No, it was luck. Michelle, from all camera angles, did not look to be expecting to be seen.
He came out of the side room off the health pack before fully invis.
And thats what Nenne saw.
If he'd delayed half a second to full invis Nenne would have never even seen him.
smoky spade
It was simply bad luck
karmic grotto
You can't react so fast in half a second to a Sombra, it's either press Q or not, also calculating the distance to throw the grav
pearl stratus
Michelle chose to go out of the far door, not the close door.
Nenne had a 50/50 on door choice.
And chose the wrong door.
Basically.
smoky spade
^
karmic grotto
The grav takes time to get there if Nenne chose the far door
pearl stratus
My guess is he thought the EMP was already up.
smoky spade
It was
karmic grotto
Michelle could have used translocator
smoky spade
You can translocate out of grav
pearl stratus
It was at 97%.
smoky spade
Oh
pearl stratus
Michelle needed a few hits to get the grav.
Hence far door, since he was just looking to farm ult.
smoky spade
If Nenne caught Michelle NYXL was definitely winning that fight
pearl stratus
But honestly.
smoky spade
Cause they had all ults up
karmic grotto
Dynasty clutch play lol
pearl stratus
If Jjonak had held that initial trans for a bit later instead of just throwing it in
smoky spade
Seoul did a good job focusing down Mano and then going after JJonak
pearl stratus
They would have won on the push with a huge time bank.
smoky spade
Took down NYXL's key players quickly and made em panic
karmic grotto
A lost is a lost
pearl stratus
Seoul did an amazing roster rotation too.
smoky spade
I won't lie that we got outplayed
pearl stratus
I'd argue that no team has managed that many different comps of players.
smoky spade
Gotta do better in Stage 2
pearl stratus
It was really good coaching, and very hard to counter.
karmic grotto
seoul be like:
pearl stratus
Because you have to prep for 3-4 different rosters.
pearl stratus
Their B team isn't even close to a B team which is crazy
Fits played like a beast.
karmic grotto
Tobi v Jecse?
pearl stratus
Also I have no clue how Marvel just dicks in and doesn't die.
It's like watching Bumper.
karmic grotto
Marve1 *********** 😄
random fulcrum
oh lord.. bumper.. and that boston game
pearl stratus
Also
RHJ looked amped.
Played better than he played all stage 1, thats for damn sure.
random fulcrum
the high of dynast vs nyxl was matched by the low of titan vs boston..
pearl stratus
Boston imo is going to slump hard soon.
I don't have any faith at all in Colourhex + Blase as a duo.
But thats me.
random fulcrum
but yeah, i was happy to see rjh on ana again
rjh, and then levar burton.. .good times :)
pearl stratus
I think not enough people realize he's Mica's dad 😛
random fulcrum
i did not!
pearl stratus
Mica Burton 😉
karmic grotto
There are far better players than them cm'mon
random fulcrum
huge levar burton fan, i literally learned english from sesame street and reading rainbow
pearl stratus
Yeah, Mica is his daughter so I think he's been getting into OWL supporting her.
karmic grotto
yeeet.
pearl stratus
Twitter
vernal mauve
Did she get into OWL the same way she got into achievement hunter?
fallen cloak
what is an upset in OWL?
trim shadow
After watching atlantas video about chengdu and houston
I can confidently say philly will lose
vale pond
Atlanta got some momentum back
And has played fusion before
They know what to expect
My guess is 3-2 atlanta
pearl stratus
Fucking L-o-L. I love watching reddit freak out about the Nenne grav and go full blown tin SR chat.
pearl stratus
They're flat out calling it a throw and a bad play, and he should have grav'd Fissure.
As if Seoul didn't have two support ults up, and there wasn't two seconds left.
r/cow is almost as bad as thinking about OW as Twitch chat sometimes.
sweet forum
trim shadow
verbal roost
nyxl upset 😮
tame niche
damn im stupid whats going on with nyxl?
verbal roost
verbal roost
^
tame niche
nyxl is upset about it huh?
wintry kraken
they probably had some spicy noodles again, which knocked them off
verbal roost
"In a stunning upset, Dynasty defeated the New York Excelsior 3-1 in the first match of the quarterfinals. This win comes a day after Seoul was swept in a tiebreaker match by San Francisco Shock, who Seoul tied with for sixth place in playoff standings. The Dynasty were even utilizing what some analysts have dubbed their “B Team,” a squad of players that aren’t in the normal rotation. "
trim shadow
Nyxl just got outplayed
caught with their pants down
And mano got delete like pokpo did
pearl stratus
Seoul played like Lunatic Hai and not Seoul for once.
Lots of roster changes, lots of aggression, lots to keep NYXL on their toes. It was a great game.
Also off-topic tangent but god bless Samsung.
For blowing up the SSD prices.
Just ordered a 1 TB SSD for $150 XD
fleet walrus
Which continent has the most wins in OWL
limber umbra
!schedule
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
trim shadow
NA @fleet walrus
fleet walrus
Thx
trim shadow
Korea is one team
and london was the only euro team until paris
But paris had a massive flop
fleet walrus
Doesn’t every team have at least one win
trim shadow
But if were talking players from a continent
Korea has the most wins
Cause theres like 50 koreans in owl
Wether backup starting or two way
And i guess ill count academy teams cause more then likely they scrim with the their parent team
pearl stratus
@trim shadow Washington would be Sprint.
Because they have no money, and they don't work.
In total yes, every team has at least one win.
In terms of Stage, no.
LAV went 0-7.
But they're about to swap rosters with Boston.
Fate traded for Fusions
Calling it now.
trim shadow
If thats for real im loosing my shit
pearl stratus
Something is happening between the two teams.
Most rumors are Fate is causing issues on LAV, especially after the Moon thing.
pearl stratus
Also Fusions, post Stage 1, is kind of whatever.
Because chances of it remaining a Rein meta are low.
And his Winston/Ball are both pretty mediocre.
So his value drops.
trim shadow
Fusions or fates value?
pearl stratus
Fusions.
Fate is an amazing Winston.
His value would only go up in a non-Goats meta.
pearl stratus
Custa is the face of the team.
trim shadow
Maybe custa is getting traded
pearl stratus
I doubt they'll drop him.
Think of every video he's in for them.
And the Saint Jude stuff, etc.
Also most of the western players look up to him.
He's like team dad.
Helped Coach for a bit too when it was just Gunba.
trim shadow
Tru tru but i still dont wanna rule it out
pearl stratus
My honest guess is the org decided to keep their investment on Custa.
pearl stratus
They just hired a new translator, so its not a complete Korean purge which makes me think it may just be 1-2 of them.
It would suck to lose Izayaki since he's crazy good.
I really do think its Fate though, potentially with Kariv. Basically whoever the loss of Moon hit the hardest.
pearl stratus
I honestly even forgot there's more games today.
I think Atlanta v Philly is legitimately a 50-50 game.
spring heath
pearl stratus
I wouldn't be surprised if either team won.
mint flower
@spring heath i want defiant to win, but i don't think they will
pearl stratus
I think if Philly drops 3:3 more, and forces more DPS comps they can pressure out a pretty inflexible Atlatna.
But I also don't think Philly has the balls to do that.
trim shadow
Atlanta philly will be crazy close
mint flower
Philly is too inconsistent for me to pick them
trim shadow
Just like the first encounter
pearl stratus
They're inconsistent in 3:3.
If they stop that shit and Chengdu it up some
I think they'd surprise us all.
mint flower
and didn't that happen twice last year
pearl stratus
See what happens.
mint flower
or was it once?
pearl stratus
It only happened with Philly once.
It happened with a few other teams a few times.
spring heath
i mostly want a map 5 but i think the can pull thru @mint flower
pearl stratus
Shanghai was bad last year, but not as bad as people always think.
Watch some of the old interviews.
Teams in Stage 3 prepped hard for Shanghai than any other team.
So Philly to game 5 was them probably not prepping at all.
trim shadow
Shanghai honestly has a good shot at stage 2 playoffs
Dien and dding have to pop off
pearl stratus
Depends where the meta lands.
mint flower
yeah cuz they were scared as hell to lose to SHD
trim shadow
And geguri and gamsu have to carry
pearl stratus
But Diem + Dding are two of the stronger dps in the league imo.
trim shadow
I think geguri gamsu has the potential to be the best frontline
mint flower
^^^
trim shadow
Like top 3
pearl stratus
Chengdu, if they can fix their bullshit, does too.
trim shadow
Mano and meko fate and space geguri and gamsu
pearl stratus
But they need to get some real coordination on ults going.
spring heath
yeah geguri gamsu will feelsogood
mint flower
@pearl stratus The beginning of the season last year was atrocious
Roshan was so damn bad
trim shadow
Thats if fate stays in LA
pearl stratus
Roshan wasn't bad, I want to clarify that.
U4's coaching strategy was bad.
It was a sacrifical overaggression to buy space for undead.
A really archaic type of play.
That works in Contenders, doesn't work in OWL.
mint flower
Didn't he fail to jump the zen multiple times
pearl stratus
He was being used as bait.
Basically you overextend a tank, knowing its going to die to try and give your DPS extra space to work with.
It's a shitty strat
And no OWL teams fell for it.
But it was common on tank comps in China in T3/Contenders.
mint flower
And that was U4s plan?
pearl stratus
Yeah. It should have never occured.
On his own individual skill Roshan actually was pretty capable.
mint flower
We never got to see that tho
pearl stratus
We got to see it once or twice after they got rid of U4.
mint flower
Plus didn't he have the most amount of time dead?
pearl stratus
But by then it was honestly too late.
mint flower
I think it was on Winstons lab
pearl stratus
I still contend that some of those players, with a real coach, could have been fine.
Altering if he'd had Rui from Stage 1 not U4 for instance could have made an acceptable Main healer.
His actual raw healing numbers were always insane.
supple yoke
can someone tell me when the philly match starts in uk time?
pearl stratus
Mg as well. Especially on the flex off-tanks.
mint flower
I heard that his Guardian Angel usage was bad
pearl stratus
Imagine MG with a coach who knew how to actually handle his hog/zarya?
Because I remember MG pulling out the Hog versus Seoul.
And everyone was like ".... Wtf?"
mint flower
i want to say that was hollywood?
pearl stratus
Though right now MG is on... Guangzhou? Academy.
King's Row
I still remember him whole hogging Fleta mid-blade.
mint flower
yes he is on gza
pearl stratus
Yeah, I'm not saying it was all U4.
I think it was a mix of it being too little too late.
Also the Korean choices were smart, but also massively detrimental.
Because you put a hard block wall of language barrier between the two most important roles on your team.
mint flower
The team didn't care anymore iirc
pearl stratus
Tanks and healers not being able to communicate is a death sentence.
pearl stratus
Honestly that's fine.
You need to reset the brain sometimes.
I think that was taken too seriously.
But to me it was replacing your tanks with Koreans and not having them have a real ability to communicate.
mint flower
after that mg straight up left the team tho
pearl stratus
He felt he wasn't good enough.
I don't knock him that.
He went back to contenders and did his grind.
Honestly I respect that.
It takes some balls to walk away from gauranteed money, even if you're losing.
I'm not saying the team was magically OWL ready.
mint flower
Are any of the chinese players that were cut at the end of the season still playing
pearl stratus
But I think if they'd had a real coach from Step 1 they wouldn't have needed to remove everyone.
MG, Freefeel, Altering, and Roshan are all in contenders.
Sky played for Team China in the OWWC and was insane.
mint flower
Roshan is in contenders?
pearl stratus
Yeah, I think he has a new name though
pearl stratus
He was.
He was good enough for OWL, but not with a language barrier.
His play with Korean tanks, then with Guxue/Lateyoung is night and day.
pearl stratus
They knew they were bringing in KDP.
Ado would be benched for the KDP dps.
So why keep him
You're not going to play Ado over Dding
mint flower
that deal was already in place?
pearl stratus
I'm sure it was something they'd worked on for a very long time.
Those things are very rarely quick.
Especially when its 4+ players, and a coach
mint flower
Also I wish the Chinese OWWC team stayed together
pearl stratus
Yeah okay -
Ado was released on 9/2/18.
BlueHAS (Coach for KDP) was signed 9/21/18.
mint flower
don't know how they would fair in GOATs tho
pearl stratus
They knew.
It was a shitty thing that happened, and its mostly on the org.
But if they had real coaches from the start, and a real support system, they wouldn't have been winless. They just had bad shit after bad shit after bad shit happen.
At least their org recovered well compared to like.. Florida.
trim shadow
This is netease your talking about
A org that is completely new to esports
/ managing a esports team
pearl stratus
Yeah, but the failing comes from no oversight.
mint flower
Yeah Florida is a shady team
trim shadow
Instead of hosting esports events
pearl stratus
You don't have to be experienced to still watch things.
They put way too much trust in the coach, which a new organization mistake.
You have dichotomy on both sides.
trim shadow
Who is the company behind florida?
pearl stratus
Season 1 Shanghai put too much trust in their coach.
trim shadow
I forgot i need trashtalk them
mint flower
Misfits I think
trim shadow
So basically shangahi did what washington did
which is put trust in coaches
and signed budget players
pearl stratus
No they put the trust in the coach
And the coach brought mostly his players.
Who were never good in contenders to begin with.
trim shadow
I mean undead was a decent dps
pearl stratus
Undead was garbage, hot take.
trim shadow
I forgot the rest of the old shanghai
pearl stratus
He could play one hero.
trim shadow
And ado was also decent
mint flower
McCree?
trim shadow
They just had bad coaching
trim shadow
Mcree wasnt meta during dive?
pearl stratus
But Diya was the better hitscan.
And they made him flex around Undead.
You could see it in the preseason.
mint flower
Didn't Undead play Widow and Soldier as well?
pearl stratus
When Diya flat out shit all over Fleta during the Seoul Shanghai game.
Diya was the better Widow.
But he couldn't play it because what would Undead play.
So I don't count it.
mint flower
I like Diya, hope he get some playtime sometime this season
After he gets language barrier issues figured out
pearl stratus
Preseason for S1.
solar olive
So does NY have the best chance of beating Vancouver because of like their record/being second/etc, or is there another team that you think might give Vancouver a tougher time?
pearl stratus
Any team could beat them, realistically.
mint flower
so if diya popped off on widow in preseason, why did they take him off
Undead being trash at other heroes I presume?
pearl stratus
It's just not playing to their speed.
That's the best way to beat teams like NYXL/Vancouver.
Set your own pace, not theirs.
The second you fall into their pace, you'll lose. You don't want to beat them at their game.
Beat them at yours.
trim shadow
Shanghais dps duo is diya diem and dding right?
solar olive
So what they've just gotten lucky all 8 times? Because that doesn't seem fair to say
Oh
trim shadow
Thats easily top 5
mint flower
youngjin as well
trim shadow
San fran has the best tho
pearl stratus
They almost lost to both Guangzhou and Chengdu.
trim shadow
Like chengdu and san fran are unbeatable in a dps meta
pearl stratus
Two teams that played their own game, not Vancouvers.
mint flower
Doubt youngjin will play a lot of dps tho
pearl stratus
Youngjin? He'll play some, here and there.
trim shadow
San fran has striker babybay architecht and someone i forgot
And weve seen what bacon and Jinmu cando
mint flower
when u have dding nad diem, it doesnt seem necessary
pearl stratus
He has a better Genji than both of them.
The one thing about Shanghais current roster is the flex.
You have two hitscan, two projectile, and your dps have flex off-tank and flex support options.
Beyond just the standard Zarya.
mint flower
Youngjin plays genji?
mint flower
so can he play multiple projectile heroes, or just genji
pearl stratus
Honestly I've never seen him on anything else, so I don't know.
mint flower
I know Dding has a good pharah, so youngjin wont be playing that
fathom acorn
Things I liked about this stage:
New teams
Shanghai doing well
Good OWL memes
Atlanta doing well
NYXL doing well
Profit existing
A lot of matches were close
mint flower
^^^
trim shadow
Haksals genji confuses me
mint flower
We didn't that much of it tho
fathom acorn
Things I didn’t like:
NYXL choking
London choking
Dallas choking
Titans existence
mint flower
like a few maps?
trim shadow
Nyxl choking is the biggest tilt in owl@history
mint flower
lmao
copper solstice
I think the coolest thing so far this season is the amount of celebrities showing.
pearl stratus
I'm not sure why everyone is super surprised.
mint flower
they have choking roots
trim shadow
If nyxl chokes in stage 4 im roasting everyone member of the org and team