esports-discussion

[limber pine]

just having fun with it

[jagged crater]

what other major sport has "stage" playoffs?

is this like an OWL thing first

feel like stage playoffs dont mean much other than some money

[balmy wolf]

https://twitter.com/NYXL/status/1107703861567983622?s=19

NYXL (@NYXL)

Today we have traded Yeonjoon "ArK" Hong to @washjustice

We thank @Arkyjun for representing NY well on and off stage, and for everything he's done for NYXL. We wish you the absolute best in your career. https://t.co/smFJeqog6L

▶ Play video

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THE FUTURE IS NOW BITCHES

[jagged crater]

is this real life

imagine goin from the best team to the worst

[balmy wolf]

🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀

[jagged crater]

well i guess that ark & wizard teamup was meant to be

[balmy wolf]

my dream has come true

now for zunba to join outlaws

and i can die happy

[pearl stratus]

Also to be crazy direct.

[jagged crater]

why outlaws

[pearl stratus]

You were never going to play ark again.

Ever.

Anamo is just Ark but better at everything.

[inland pawn]

just play ameng on hammond

[jagged crater]

wash has 3 main supps now?

rip fahz

you will be missed

[pearl stratus]

Outlaws need a zen and a leash for Jake. But they also don't need to worry about Goats much anymore, so we'll see how stage 2 goes.

[inland pawn]

jake just needs to stop dying

[jagged crater]

zunba deserves to be on a team where he will get 100% playtime, and not have another really good zarya player on the bench

[inland pawn]

like zacharee

[pearl stratus]

Stage 2 is set to be wild because all the power rankings will be all fucky again.

Fusion will probably go back to being not shit.

Some of the current teams will go to being shit.

[jagged crater]

nyxl will still be good?? :):)

[pearl stratus]

It'll be fun.

[jagged crater]

pine and sbb back

[pearl stratus]

They'll be fine, they're honestly fine now. They're beatable, but no one who could have beat them played them properly.

Pine won't be back.

[inland pawn]

u make it sound like other teams cant play anything but goats

[pearl stratus]

SBB might be back.

[jagged crater]

depends on the next meta i guess

if it's flavoring towards more dps

[pearl stratus]

Unless the meta is "Only McCree" Pine is useless.

They have equivalent widows with larger flex pools.

[limber pine]

I want a protect the McCree meta

that'd be a lot of fun

[pearl stratus]

As long as they keep calling it the Protect the President Comp.

[jagged crater]

think less about hero pool, more about hero pool for specific maps

which is what pine was used for

[pearl stratus]

The game, imo, doesn't play the same as Dive where there was one variant.

Since then we've been getting multiple comp rotations.

No reason to think that'd stop.

Also its more like we've already seen flaws in some teams DPS rosters just trying to work it into rotation now.

I.E. Atlanta attempts at DPS comps rarely goes well.

And the Orissa comp on Anubis wasn't anything new.

[balmy wolf]

@jagged crater for the meme

[jagged crater]

where will spree go

dont say trashcan!

[pearl stratus]

Houston would only be getting a picture of Zunba anyway.

It's all they can afford.

Since its pretty obvious they're not spending money until after their sale.

So he could be a nice vinyl acrylic on the wall.

[jagged crater]

remember zunba had a dedicated poster in the korean subways

https://www.dbltap.com/posts/5739098-seoul-subway-station-shows-off-advertisement-for-seoul-dynasty-player
zunba's a legend

[worn falcon]

Ark wasnt expecting the trade

https://twitter.com/gatamchun/status/1107706091255656449

Ana's Tal Mask (@gatamchun)

ArK: I’m also currently surprised https://t.co/BojG9jE05y

Twitter

[limber pine]

wasn't it rumored that ark would be traded a long time ago

[pearl stratus]

It was, with Janus.

Basically one Anamo got put into the main roster and Ark got dumped to bench it became a rumor because he wasn't happy being a bench.

Maybe it was a bet.

Pavane was like "Okay listen here Wizard Fuckboi. If you even win a single match in Stage 1 you can have Ark."

[limber pine]

lul

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/gatamchun/status/1107707299794018304

Ana's Tal Mask (@gatamchun)

ArK: all trades are kind of sudden... https://t.co/VP5vffgvV0

Twitter

wew

[pearl stratus]

Welcome to sports, Lad.

[limber pine]

i mean, they can be sudden since everybody's in the same city

but yeah, sports does generally have sudden trades

[trim shadow]

Ark is main support right

[pearl stratus]

At least Ark got neat art.

https://twitter.com/washjustice/status/1107703270989025280

Washington Justice (@washjustice)

Justice grows stronger for Stage 2! Welcome @Arkyjun to the team!

Retweets

160

Likes

732

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[trim shadow]

Thatll be good cause washington is fairly weak at main support

[pearl stratus]

With his giant Mercy Mech.

As a community though we should continue my lie.

[trim shadow]

washington on the up

[limber pine]

cuz it's hard for them to go any further down

[pearl stratus]

That it was a bet - and Pavane bet Wizard he was so overrated they wouldn't win a single match and put Ark on the line.

[trim shadow]

Alot of teams will be exposed when it comes to a dps meta

Aka stage 2

[pearl stratus]

I mean your favorite team is looking to be one of them.

[trim shadow]

Im looking at you houston and boston

[pearl stratus]

They play all their dps comps like some open division shits.

[trim shadow]

If it does become dps syntretic honestly dafran might no get much play time

[pearl stratus]

Pick up a Widow you can't even play, so you flex your best dps to cover it.

Fucking rip.

[trim shadow]

Unless nlaeer is bottling it in scrim

[pearl stratus]

From what we've seen of Nlaeer it doesn;t look to matter either way.

[trim shadow]

Watch nlaeer get traded for someone like link

[pearl stratus]

Unless there's vast improvement he does not have an OWL widow.

Consider Houston roster locked.

[jagged crater]

if tracer or soldier is anywhere in the next meta, dafran will see playtime

[pearl stratus]

The major shareholder for that group is looking to be bought out.

Houston won't spend any money for the forseeable future.

[trim shadow]

Endo and the other are prediciting bunker

Atlanta could be a good bunker team

[pearl stratus]

Bunker will pop up.

[trim shadow]

Since dafran played alot of bastion

[pearl stratus]

I don't think it'll be the primary.

[trim shadow]

And add in baptiste

[pearl stratus]

But it'll show up on quite a few maps.

[trim shadow]

If it shows up it will be on 2cp maps and hybrids

[pearl stratus]

The big thing is how a professional group shatters the bunker.

Because you've got more options now than ever before.

[next spindle]

hey guys look what i find! (and yes my english is very good becouse i'm russian)
https://discord.gg/

[pearl stratus]

McCree alone if you can't pressure him will destroy the bunker comp and four people behind it.

[trim shadow]

Im excited to see pine play

If pine doest get play time nyxl well give you nlaeer or erster

[pearl stratus]

I think you'll see Pine if McCree becomes the more standard bunker breaker with the new high noon.

If he doesn't, Libero + SBB and Libero + Nenne to be the primary line ups.

[trim shadow]

Sad pine is in that position

But its better then being a dps for san fransicso

[trim shadow]

https://twitter.com/Feskir/status/1107615426211647494
this guy made a strength of scheldue index

Feskir (@Feskir)

Update on my Strength of Schedule data.
I have also included the SoS based on the map Wins-Losses of the teams they played and the difference between the Match based SoS and the Mapwins based SoS.

Twitter

Were suppose to have 3 7-0 teams

[limber pine]

Dallas may have been the one loss

but yeah Philly could have been 7-0

[trim shadow]

couldve been dallas atlanta or london

so what it tells me is that philly depends too much on boombox

[balmy wolf]

Ark joined washington

Idk is ark his lucio is as good as his mercy but by far a upgrade over their current main support

[trim shadow]

ark already has synergy with janus right

[karmic grotto]

seriously?

ARK JOINED WASH

finally a good support for wash

[limber pine]

Gido isn't bad

minimally, he's not the issue with DC

[trim shadow]

gido is just underperforming

and washington needs veteran leadership and janus looks like he isnt giving it

[limber pine]

correct

[jagged crater]

gido is calling?

fahz can maybe flex supp

he was zen/ana player for previous teams

[balmy wolf]

fahzix is an amazing zen

but (this is 100% personal opinion) i dont know if he can zen with owl zens

[subtle pumice]

[queen drift]

Ark noo

[mint flower]

ark just fucked his career

[trim shadow]

nah

ark will help washington get to at least middle of the pack

[mint flower]

i dont think ark can single handedly turn this team around...

even if justice didn't play hard teams for like all of stage 1 (with the exception of mayhem), this team would still be trash

and janus has been a huge disappointment to me

[trim shadow]

there stage 2 is easier then there stage 1

toronto chengdu new york atlanta boston

shanghai

valiant

[queen drift]

ark can

hes big brain

[mint flower]

I don't really consider any games "easy" unless it's against mayhem

That teams such a fucking joke

[queen drift]

There are definitely easy games in the league, for justice specifically I’d say every game is hard

But what he said is easier

Which is fair, Washington have had a rough schedule

Either way if Washington keep picking up NYXL players I’m gonna have to support them both 😭

My LW bois splitting up

What was the originally leaked justice squad? Ark Wizard and Janus were definitely a part of it

[trim shadow]

wizard is probably trying his best to get nyxl players and academy players lol

and maybe budget koreans to turn em into all stars

[gaunt acorn]

he was already planning on bringing ark with him before the season started

the budget just ran out

[trim shadow]

https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1107769427850727424?s=09

Overwatch League (@overwatchleague)

Tomorrow at 2PM PT @SeoulDynasty plays @SFShock in a non-broadcast standard match to determine 6th/7th seeds in the Stage 1 Playoffs.

Immediately after, @TorontoDefiant and @Fusion will settle 3rd/4th seeds via a mutually agreed-upon coin flip. #OWL2019

Twitter

waste of time

[balmy wolf]

Goats

[hidden osprey]

Non-broadcast?

[balmy wolf]

its time boys

Open Division roster locked

omw to contenders trials

[jagged crater]

Waste of bullets boy

[boreal bronze]

Dr phill is an Atlanta reign fan?

[gaunt acorn]

that's a photoshop

[boreal bronze]

O

Looks convincing

🙄

[hidden vault]

I think Janus has been trying his best to carry the team

He is likely the best player in the roster

Ark will definitely boost the team, would help them to win a few more map definitely

Do you guys for see any of the 5 dps from nyxl going justice?

[night tusk]

https://www.twitch.tv/insightonesports

Monte with bigg00se and Fusions in Oversight

[gaunt acorn]

janus really hasn't looked that great

[hidden vault]

I guess

Do we have some main tank stats?

[night tusk]

https://twitter.com/gatamchun/status/1107710514417659905

Ana's Tal Mask (@gatamchun)

Someone correct me if I’m wrong but afaik the team receiving the traded player can’t contact the player themselves before the deal is sealed

Twitter

https://twitter.com/flameIRL/status/1107805388932448257

Matt Rodriguez (@flameIRL)

@gatamchun you can contact them but you have to notify their GM first that you are doing so. You can do tryouts with another teams player/scrim with them as long as its approved.

Twitter

[hidden vault]

@balmy wolf why do you want zunba to join outlaws lol

And isn't ark better then amano in terms of mercy and ana?

[night tusk]

he is a better lucio for sure

anamo

I think he is better in general, but happy to see ark in justice

oops

[supple prism]

so i dont watch normal sports, how do they normally solve these types of ties?

[night tusk]

well in soccer you have something like penalty's right ?

[trim shadow]

i lowkey want custa to atlanta

but then again

masaa is on the same level...

and custa probably wont go cheaply

[night tusk]

custa does not fit in ATL, lol

let Val just fix their problems

[trim shadow]

packing10 is the interm coach and i cant forsee things going up lol

and with a meta shift i dont think the valiant will develop there own style

[night tusk]

they hired someone today and making teams worse is not fun

[trim shadow]

who they hired?

[night tusk]

idk

[trim shadow]

i still dont believe in the valiant lol

[night tusk]

watch on r/cow

[trim shadow]

theyll get a win next stage

but not a stageplayoffs

[night tusk]

well people said the same about team UK in OWWC

or that boston will fail this stage

[trim shadow]

boston crawled there way into the 8th spot

it wasnt suppose to happen lol

fusion was hard carrying

[night tusk]

this was said before fusion was even signed, so that they had to deal with this quick change

[supple prism]

I think its more of boston having a bad start

[night tusk]

idk his name but was banned aswell, than had to get used to stage

colourhex

[supple prism]

and the whole main tank thing

[trim shadow]

boston snuck a win off seoul

and barely beat dallas lol

[night tusk]

like dallas is bad ? lol

[supple prism]

but they gave NYXL issues

[trim shadow]

tru enough but that was week 1 and everyone from the first season of owl was shaking off rust

and nyxl hit there stride the next week

[night tusk]

valiant and DC had a hard schedule, DC is fixing their problems I guess with ark and Valiant with firing moon.

we see what will happen in stage 2

[supple prism]

Boston is just putting too much into Goats while still sorting stuff out.

[trim shadow]

already predicting stage 2 to be the pinnacle of overwatch leauge

[night tusk]

I did not expect gladiators being scary in the end of the stage aswell

[trim shadow]

since everyone played one main comp most of the stage

but no one really proved there skill in unique situations

espect nyxl

[night tusk]

I am worried for Paris lol, their team is designed for goats, and they suck at it

[supple prism]

hunters

[trim shadow]

its like paris caught london with their pants down

[supple prism]

and i still have no idea what is gonna happen with titans, have they ever tried anything else at all?

[trim shadow]

and then atlanta came into their house and raided there fridge

and they have never recovered

[night tusk]

yes titans played dive against charge lol

[trim shadow]

@supple prism they tried to run dps against guangzhou when guangzhou ran dps and got rolled on the first map

[night tusk]

but when ATL played junkrat orisa on anubis, paris forgat how to play dive lol

[trim shadow]

and then went into goats and dominated

vancouver will still be top 5 next stage

but there dominance will falter a little

[supple prism]

this is not what i expected biggooses voice to sound like

[night tusk]

lol

[supple prism]

thought it would be deeper

fusions is about right

[night tusk]

monte give some shots to him lol

roasting their tanks

[trim shadow]

in terms of like teams that will do well in a dps meta

definetly nyxl and san fran

[night tusk]

idk how fast we will even have a new meta

[trim shadow]

im predicting every team will play a different style of overwatch

[night tusk]

Bapiste is not confirmed to be in OWL if i'm right

[trim shadow]

chengdu will stick to clown fiesta

[supple prism]

stage 3

[trim shadow]

and some other teams will try bunker

some teams will try dice

dive*

thats my hope

[night tusk]

stage 2 *

[supple prism]

feel like hunters will only get worse if anyone goes bunker against them

[night tusk]

I think hunters does amazing

watching their comp attempt vs charge on the titans

their win on ATL well deserved

[trim shadow]

im predicting chengdu for stage 2 playoffs

[night tusk]

there still 2 players in visa hell

[trim shadow]

im absolutely terrified of them

and the thing is

[supple prism]

hunters does do well but i cant imagine they will be able to dislodge a bunker comp quick enough

[trim shadow]

everyone put them at 20th

[night tusk]

you think the bunker comp is meta?

[trim shadow]

because they are mostly built out of old ow veterans from contenders

like baconjack

and then they got wins

[night tusk]

I know ameng is not playing winston but he played some orisa

elsa on torb

ugh fusions saying nixel

[supple prism]

im saying if bunker becomes more used

[night tusk]

we have to wait and see 😛

[obtuse zodiac]

Play dive

[night tusk]

what was the name of boston coach again ?

[supple prism]

new or old?

[night tusk]

huk ?

new ?

[supple prism]

well they had Crusty

[night tusk]

ahh ye

I was thinking huk was the head coach

[supple prism]

who left after bostons perfect stage

[night tusk]

I know they added the one from valiant aswell

gumba

[supple prism]

https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Boston_Uprising

[night tusk]

https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Washington_Justice

on boston you see 3 ass coach

on justice you see just "coach"

[tulip ridge]

So Boston is trying to play Goats?

[night tusk]

biggoose just says it was not a team plan..

what monte said sounds smart lol

https://www.twitch.tv/insightonesports (talking about)

[tulip ridge]

I see

Honestly though I'm looking forward to the playoffs because of Titans

@night tusk what do you think will happen if the Titans went against the Excelsior

[night tusk]

NYXL looks so clean

can see them win

[tulip ridge]

did you see the match from titans against charge yesterday?

[night tusk]

yes

[tulip ridge]

I feel like the Titans were performing goats a lot cleaner compared to the hunters match

or maybe it's just me

[night tusk]

NYXL 3-2 with valiant I believe, but their match against seoul and I believe they had another one

hunters is alot better than what charge tried to do

but jjanu > meko

[tulip ridge]

JJanu is great at D.VA

[night tusk]

but still.. NYXL know so much in this meta I believe

they lost 1 player, just falls back and full hold almost

they actually did I believe

ye

[tulip ridge]

Titans played Goats in the Contenders I believe

[night tusk]

yes

but the staff of NYXL proves to be insane

I can see it to be a close game and wont be suprised to see titans win it

but who knows

maybe seoul suddenly wins from NYXL lol

[tulip ridge]

Yeah anything can happen this season, lot's of weird matches like Spitfire losing to Dragons

[night tusk]

well since OWWC uk winning from usa

I can see anything happen lol

[tulip ridge]

Lesson from OWWC: Never get cocky and teabagg

[night tusk]

who can you see win OWL stage 1 if it's not NYXL or titans ?

[supple prism]

shock?

[night tusk]

if shock lose to dynasty off stream match

they have to play NYXL

wonder if NYXL have a chance to face titans in finals or before

I am a seoul fan but if its not nyxl or titans I can see defiant taking it

[tulip ridge]

I've heard that the Defiant are getting good and impressing people

[night tusk]

3th right now so ye

[tulip ridge]

Isn't Boston going against Titans?

[night tusk]

yes

[supple prism]

dont know if anything is set in stone

[night tusk]

yes this one is sure

[tulip ridge]

No way titans can lose to boston

[night tusk]

well I expected hunters to lose 4-0 from titans xd

[tulip ridge]

yeah as a vancouver fan I thought that too

but I was suprised how they barely won

[night tusk]

also some teams are better in stage matches than playoff matches. maybe have to do with mentallity, if they lose this match their done so it can happen

[tulip ridge]

I was suprised how Charge 3-2 titans in their first game butget demolished yesterday

[night tusk]

they tried to be hunters

you know there is a polish player in OWL

[tulip ridge]

Oh

Who?

[night tusk]

!paris players

!paris player

lol

Danye

[tulip ridge]

!paris roster

[night tusk]

I know Danye because of OWWC, poland did not great but this player did shine

but no playtime yet

lol

https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Danye

[tulip ridge]

Speaking of OWWC

didn't China make it to the finals only to get clapped by Korea?

[night tusk]

they did great imo

[tulip ridge]

True that they made some big plays

[night tusk]

they came with the winston goats

so team canade copy that since they did not know how to counter it against uk

leave from pubg to super star player

[tulip ridge]

Winston goats is just Winston instead of the Rien?

[night tusk]

ye

[balmy wolf]

@hidden vault just a meme t h

[tulip ridge]

Who do you think will win between Defiant and Reign?

[night tusk]

defiant

[trim shadow]

reign

[night tusk]

their zarya, envy and neko looks scary

[trim shadow]

theyll use the footage from there first match

they know how to beat the defiant

weve seen how rematches have faired so far

dallas 3-2 shanghai dallas 4-0 shanghai

[tulip ridge]

Titans 4-0 Charge

although the hunters showed Titans main weakness

[night tusk]

team uk - usa, usa won to uk won

also gladiators did show ATL weakness

[tulip ridge]

What was it?

Didn't see the match between them

[night tusk]

4-0 for glads ?

[tulip ridge]

well I was asking about the weakness

[night tusk]

i'm watching oversight now

they talked about it

that

pokpo have best dmg or something like that with estern on brig, dafran not huge dmg but final blows

so if pokpo is not allowed to do dmg (get discord every second) than they cant play their game

biggoose is in the podcast from la gladiators

[trim shadow]

yes atlanta got exposed

but they slowly cleaned it up

it took chengdu unfortunately but it got cleaned up

[night tusk]

from who did ATL won from besides defiant houston and mayhem ?

oh ye paris

besides defiant

the other teams are not that great..

[trim shadow]

those 4

[night tusk]

can you see ATL win from fusion

[trim shadow]

potentially

as a atlanta native im saying finales

as a esports fan

semi finals

[night tusk]

!players defiant

[somber yew]

Toronto Defiant Roster

ivy

offense

Yakpung

tank

Stellar

offense

Aid

support

RoKy

support

Asher

offense

Neko

support

Envy

tank

Developed with LOVE by MoonFire · Mar 19, 2019, 2:48 AM

[night tusk]

!players paris

[somber yew]

Paris Eternal Roster

SoOn

offense

ShaDowBurn

offense

Greyy

support

BenBest

tank

LhCloudy

tank

Finnsi

tank

Kruise

support

NiCOgdh

offense

HyP

support

danye

offense

Developed with LOVE by MoonFire · Mar 19, 2019, 2:48 AM

[night tusk]

!players justice

[somber yew]

Washington Justice Roster

Janus

tank

ArK

support

Fahzix

support

Sansam

tank

Corey

offense

Stratus

offense

Hyeonu

support

Gido

support

Ado

offense

Developed with LOVE by MoonFire · Mar 19, 2019, 2:49 AM

[night tusk]

ark is updated, nice

[minor flame]

i cant tell whether to be happy or sad that arks in justice

[night tusk]

anamo is pog so ark would not play

[trim shadow]

happy

[night tusk]

rather have bad team go better than have a player like ark on the bench

[trim shadow]

ark is what the justice needs

[night tusk]

and ark is with wizard and janus, not strangers

[trim shadow]

ark and janus probably have great chemistry

[hidden vault]

I wonder if another nyxl bencher would get into justice

Say one of the dps? They have 5 now

[trim shadow]

gonna say something that will piss this chat off

it will probably be pine

or libero

[mint flower]

That would make me cry

I hate justices organization, don't really know why but I do

[trim shadow]

but at least corey will have someone to learn from

[mint flower]

Coreys alright

Dreamkazpers son

[trim shadow]

you hate justice when orgs like the mayhem and the outlaws are running around

[mint flower]

outlaws org is something I can deal with to a degree, mayhem is definitely my most hated

i know a lot of people hate outlaws, but I don't really have a problem with them

The only thing I care about related to outlaws is Jake

[balmy wolf]

fuck outlaws

[mint flower]

lmao

[balmy wolf]

on a serious note, outlaws org has some shady shit

GGEA has been in controversy for good reason

not the owl but the contenders org

[mint flower]

arent they kicked

from contenders

[balmy wolf]

are they? i havent heard that

ive honestly been out of loop for a while so probably

[trim shadow]

do you even know what the managers and the front office did to season 1 mayhem

[mint flower]

Liquipedia says they're the former academy team of the outlaws

Mayhems management is a clusterfuck

[trim shadow]

i dont know why the owl desk said houston is one of the more liked teams

[mint flower]

actually mentally retarded

probs cuz all the screaming girls

[trim shadow]

1. mayhem
2. houston
3. boston

most hated teams cause of the org

and front office

[mint flower]

o yeah bostons a shitshow as well

huks a real dick, isnt he?

[trim shadow]

sideshow says most of the players are paid minimum owl salary

his reasoning

because huk goes out and scouts unkowns and budget koreans

and somehow turns them into playoff conteders

[mint flower]

yeah wtf is the coaching in there

[trim shadow]

that some smelly ass shit there

[mint flower]

i swear they're going to make colourhex look as good as some top koreans

[trim shadow]

traded gamsu who carried...dropped striker because of the relationship him and huk had

dreamkazper

etc

[mint flower]

yep

[trim shadow]

the only thing that looks good on boston is the fact robert kraft owns em

[mint flower]

Thats the one thing I love about Boston

gave SHD gamsu

[trim shadow]

and in the end he came back to upset them

[mint flower]

who? Kraft?

[pearl stratus]

I mean no one really cares about the $500 fine that Kraft is going to get hit for.

He's just famous so they're making it public.

[mint flower]

o the prostitution incident?

Bostons an odd team aren't they?

[pearl stratus]

Not especially.]

Issues with Koreans aren't new.

Dallas had them (Rascal), LAV is having them now, Florida is having them now.

Neko, especially, has spent most of his career being a piece of shit for the most part.

Oh LAG had them with Fissure, because he wanted an all Korean Roster again.

And on the scale of owners doing stupid shit, this is pretty small imo.

[trim shadow]

its more of a culture war when koreans are on mixed rosters

and if a all korean team aka hangzhou starts loosing

its due to coaching or player mistake

it was shanghais issue last year cause they had all 3

bad coaching player mistakes outside issues

bad front office bad management and the big COMMUNICATION

trying to blend chineese and korean

[pearl stratus]

Wot.

Use a better example of a team than Hangzhou.

Because Hangzhou isn't an all Korean team lmoa.

[trim shadow]

basically

[pearl stratus]

You literally quoted a mixed roster team.

[trim shadow]

guxue and idk are chineese and the rest are korean 🤔

[pearl stratus]

IDK is Korean.

Krystal is Chinese.

[trim shadow]

i can kinda tell whos from what region by face structure

its hard to tell

i bet hangzhous comms are a mix of korean slang and english

if i was a coach i would sit my players down and have them practice callouts without computers

[night tusk]

problem with mayhem justice and boston is that its rumoured they save to much money

but boston is winning so

actually smart from Huk, sign unknown players, make them super star, sell them for big money and do it again

[trim shadow]

i thought justice went over budget since they used it for coaches @night tusk

and it is smart by huk cause striker went for alot of money

but also cheeky

[sullen berry]

a reminder that most chinese teams do have majority koreans in their roster

but they either
a) speak all korean comms
b) chinese-korean comms
c) strategic english-korean comms
d) you're chengdu

inb4 Diya speaks fluent korean 🇨🇳

[hidden vault]

I assume
a) Hangzhou
b) Shanghai
c) Guangzhou
d) Chengdu (obv)

c) is hard on the chinese players

[supple prism]

hunters is the only real Chinese team

[hidden vault]

^

[supple prism]

https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1107769427850727424\

tie breaker info

[minor flame]

a is shanghai

b is hangzhou

cause guxue and krystal exist

[hidden vault]

Hmm you are right

I believe Shanghai used to speak chinese Korean coms during sky and altering era

Forgot Diya is practising enough korean before he can play on the team

Which reminds me Diya is the only player who hasn't gotten his 1st win

[queen drift]

Technically there’s a few

Stratus, probably a mayhem sub or two, Freefeel altering undead basically all of old Shanghai

If you mean just in the league now

Probably Diya Stratus Izayaki

[magic birch]

Boston in the playoffs

Pog

[hidden vault]

I think there are more subs

[trim shadow]

Pray chengdu keeps picking up chineese players

If boston upsets vancouver im just done with bostonp

[mint flower]

@pearl stratus what happened with neko?

[limber pine]

neko is supposedly a toxic teammate

which is why he was sent to Toronto

[queen drift]

Banished to Toronto

[pearl stratus]

https://twitter.com/elsa06453086/status/1107705852360683520?s=21

CDH-Elsa (@Elsa06453086)

Guys, I will go to Disney today, I can see my favorite Frozen, I am very happy. https://t.co/mlIUJqzO6Q

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613

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Twitter

[limber pine]

https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/22933219/what-s-new-in-stage-2

[pearl stratus]

Schedule page update.

Setting everything 15 minutes back per game.

Since game times took 105 minutes

[cyan basalt]

any people from Brazil?

[vale pond]

roses are red

ready to take

there's no player in the league

who feeds more than jake

[queen drift]

Jake Bumper Kruise

[vale pond]

bumper turns the fucking feed to 11

he plays like a gold rein with aimhacks

[warm quartz]

So bap and new patch hitting for stage 2

damn

[tawny sigil]

when are the extra playoff matches for tiebreaker?

[worn falcon]

holy shit, this patch for stage 2

[cyan basalt]

ignored

[trim shadow]

If paris doesnt go undefeated on there own map@ill be upset

I wonder if anyone will play baptiste

Im more excited for stage 2 then stage 1 playoffs

[supple prism]

Wow, sfs 3-0 dynasty

[cyan basalt]

[supple prism]

https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1108130214423470080?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

Overwatch League (@overwatchleague)

The Stage 1 Playoffs tiebreaker ends with @SFShock winning the series 3-0! #OWL2019

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Still waiting on the coin flip

Guess in 28 min on Instagram for some reason

Heads = @TorontoDefiant, Tails = @Fusion

[tawny sigil]

so they are doing off streams matches?

[vale pond]

lmaoo

atlanta has already beaten defiant

but they also narrowly lost to fusion and would likely be really ready to face them again

[idle sail]

shanghai is better then london spitfire

lol

[minor flame]

Seoul gets 3-0ed by SF

Has to face NYXL

Lol

[idle sail]

lol

wanna know my fav 2 teams

titans and reign cus

they epic

[minor flame]

ok boomer

[idle sail]

big boomer

wanna sprite cranberry

[minor flame]

no zoomer

[idle sail]

dogman dafran

dogfran?

daman?

hmmm?!?!

anyway

lemme thonk

🤔

masaa dogman gator wasnt fran on it?

kodak pokpo dafran

erster Nlaaer

and they are getting Ml7 i think

[balmy wolf]

[vale pond]

wtf

honestly if atlanta signed a big brain main tank they would be rlly well off

pokpo is fine but he dies first a lot

[trim shadow]

seoul is fucked

Jjonak put out a bounty

[supple prism]

And philly won the coin flip

[vale pond]

so atlanta plays toronto?

or philly

[supple prism]

So defiant vs Atlanta, shock vs philly

[vale pond]

toronto bc they're 5th ye

ok

my guess for that is atlanta 3-2 shock 3-2

and then nyxl and vancouver are either gonna 3-1 or 4-0 their games

[supple prism]

No wait, the other way around

Atlanta vs philly

Shock vs defiant

[vale pond]

oke

is atlanta 5th or 6th as of now?

[trim shadow]

Defiant about to get first round eliminated

[vale pond]

oof

also if philly won toronto is playing atlanta

[supple prism]

This makes defiant 4th

[vale pond]

atlanta is seeded 5th

so yeah then

[supple prism]

Actually, what's really funny is that the standings page doesnt need to be reordered, it has been the correct order. Lol

[trim shadow]

Toronto won so they get san fran

Philly gets atlanta then

[idle beacon]

ATLANTA AND PHILI ALL TEH WAI

[trim shadow]

HELL YEAH

Oh wait

[supple prism]

yea this other pieces of shit site lied to me

its as bad as the news jumping to conclusions

and they did it on instagram or something for some reason and i refuse to have an account on that

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/b3428f/toronto_defiant_vs_philadelphia_fusion_coin_toss/ oh, thats why im confused

[vale pond]

Why the fuck didnt they just go up and do it live instead of this shite

[supple prism]

i dont know, i understand why the sfs vs seoul match wasnt live but this was crap

[trim shadow]

It was goats anyway

Seoul probably put there b team in

[supple prism]

why

[mint flower]

Hold up, I thought Huk was being an asshole and neko hated him, so he wanted to be on a different team

Kinda like strikers situation with boston

[karmic grotto]

Not again

Rematch seoul dynasty

Would love seeing nyxl vs titans

[trim shadow]

Its impossible

[mint flower]

yeah titans are gonna stomp them

[trim shadow]

Im calling rigged match if boston even takes a map

Its just

When u look at vancouvers roster

Theyve been together for ages

They have synergy

And then boston is being led by fusions

Everyone else is underperforming

[mint flower]

Fusions is really good tho

[trim shadow]

Tf why do people say the games are 6 pm

But for me they say 9pm

On the owl app

[mint flower]

time zones

[trim shadow]

But im eastern lmao

[mint flower]

same

maybe the games do start at 9 pm eastern...

thats a dick move by the league tho

[vale pond]

as much as I hate boston I want them to win lol

the league has automatic time adjustments now for match schedules

so if you live east coast and a match is 6pm it tells u its 9

what?

boston is a shit team which doesnt deserve playoffs

I say 4-0

but ok

realistic*

oof

[mint flower]

i think vancouvers chances are like 95 5

[vale pond]

yeah p much

who do they play semis?

what are the tourney brackets?

[mint flower]

I don't even know wut to say about boston..
Such an odd team

the games are on the website

I hope toronto goes to semis at least

[vale pond]

no

atlanta lets go

wait they dont play

then sure go toronto

they can lose to vancouver/xl

realistically team with best chance of beating van/xl before finals is atlanta

my only issue with that is poko

pokpo*

[trim shadow]

Ill be honest

If boston wins

Huk is a chad

@vale pond i love you

But atlanta has to play seoul or nyxl

Ooo i saw xl

[mint flower]

lmao

[trim shadow]

Atlanta is a wild card

Youll know how toronto and philly will play

same with seoul

[fathom acorn]

Aspen should be a pro

[minor flame]

lol

[fathom acorn]

She is the most precious OW streamer ever

[trim shadow]

Im suprised we havent gotten a girly girl owl player

[fathom acorn]

@trim shadow Ngl

I didn’t know geguri was a girl until I looked it up

Fran and aspen could probably be pro, though both of them are currently signed with teams

As streamers

[trim shadow]

Geguri fooled me first time i saw her

Then i saw her body features

I was yea thazza girl

@fathom acorn atlanta should give fran a owl contract

Shes a girly girl tomboy

[fathom acorn]

They could use Fran to spy on emongg

Cause they’re close friends

Also aspen is basically ninja now and ninjas popular so therefore she’d make any team popular

[trim shadow]

What the hell is emongg lmao i cant tell if he is pro or not

[minor flame]

ok boomer

[gaunt acorn]

@trim shadow not pro, just a streamer

[trim shadow]

Jayne put him in pro pugs tho

[gaunt acorn]

yeah

playing in jayne's pro pugs doesn't definitively make you a pro, lol

emongg has played in the pro scene before

but it's not like jayne is heavily vetting these things

[fathom acorn]

Emongg is a streamer for fusions

Therefore she can use him to spy on them

[trim shadow]

I mean cloneman16 is a contenders tank

and he looks owl ready

[mint flower]

Emongg goes pro

I want to see that happen

[balmy wolf]

Id see him doing it

I mean

He's definitely known enough and good enough to do it

[mint flower]

I think he's said he prefers streaming over going pro again

[balmy wolf]

Yeah

[hushed cloud]

is anyone watching collegiate championship

[balmy wolf]

no

[grim field]

is bap playable in OWL yet?

[balmy wolf]

Yes I think? ??

Idk

[hushed cloud]

oh

idk

[mint flower]

bap doesn't go in until stage 2

[balmy wolf]

Yeah

[grim field]

ok

[balmy wolf]

And uh

[grim field]

thx

[balmy wolf]

Stage 2 soon

[mint flower]

I wanna see kabaji or kragie but I think they both said no as well

[balmy wolf]

Kabaji did it didnt he at one point or am I thinking of someone else

[mint flower]

Kabaji and Emongg are both streamers for Fusion

I think ur thinking of xQc

[balmy wolf]

No i was thinking he actually played for fusion at one point not a streamer

Im just tired

I realize now tho

[mint flower]

k

[supple prism]

nah, i dont think titans will stomp boston, win sure but not stomp.

[trim shadow]

@grim field bap will be playable next stage

And paris will be in the map pool

[minor flame]

titans will stomp boston

considering aimgod and fusions are the only threats from them

[tame niche]

Titans have just been wrecking everyone

boston's been having issues lately as well so i predict a good gg ez for the titabs

titabs

[trim shadow]

Look at how vancouver rebounded after being destroyed on ruins ilios by guangzhou

[sullen berry]

botston and titans just play their own game and win

that was a typo, but might be plausible if Gunba's game plan is stuffed against them

[mint flower]

I can see Boston getting one map, but that's about it

[trim shadow]

Boston should come out the gates aggresive

If they dont

There fucked

@mint flower thats to many maps

[mint flower]

@trim shadow one teamfight?

[gaunt crag]

Boston is fucked anyways

[trim shadow]

@mint flower thats a fair assessment

Probably 2-6 teamfights

[mint flower]

lmao

[sullen berry]

whats everyones thoughts about NYXL and Philly

[trim shadow]

Nyxl is the best team in the leauge

Philly is rocky

But carpe carrys them every match

[fathom acorn]

Do the balance changes go in during the playoffs or season 2

[mint flower]

NYXL 3-2 or 3-1

I expect it to be a very close match

unless the garbage philly shows up

[limber pine]

@fathom acorn Stage 2

[fathom acorn]

I thought so

[umbral dawn]

when is the playoffs

[minor flame]

mar 21

[umbral dawn]

oh

[trim shadow]

think finals is sunday

and then teams have a week or two off

and into stage 2

[supple prism]

a week is skipped before stage 2

[trim shadow]

some teams have been on a break for at least 3 weeks

[supple prism]

https://www.vpesports.com/overwatch/sources-seoul-dynasty-intended-to-coin-flip-for-their-seed

The other tiebreaker for 3rd place between Toronto Defiant and Philadelphia Fusion was agreed to be decided by a coin toss. This appears to be the logical conclusion of both teams wanting to dodge the Shock in their first round in the playoffs. If the Shock were to win their tiebreaker against the Dynasty, the Defiant and the Fusion would both have an incentive to lose as they too deem the Shock to be the stronger of the two opponents.

ha

so fusion won by losing

when the rest of the teams know who 1st and 2nd is so they are just competing for 3rd and 4th for $50k.

[minor flame]

this is like some

900iq drafting tactics

[slow walrus]

it's pretty simple strategy if you're thinking about it

as a shock fan it's funny bc everyone is avoiding them at all costs

considering that shock wins, vancouver wins, and nyxl wins, semifinals will be nuts

[supple prism]

its possible shock could go undefeated next stage with nyxl and titans

with nyxl having a joke of an easy stage 2

[trim shadow]

it isnt owl without a littel bit of controversy

thats probably why they got 3-0

they didnt wanna play the tiebreaker and maybe put in subs for play time

[hidden vault]

I wonder who would be 4th

Probably Atlanta I guess

[fathom acorn]

Probably not

[hidden vault]

Possible both are strong contenders

[vagrant cargo]

Toronto probably wont pass shock

[trim shadow]

atlanta is 5th seed

[north tendon]

I think toronto is highly underrated

on a good day they are scary

and I like neko's addition

[sullen berry]

This is the ideal match up

And it happened between a coin toss and non-broadcasted tiebreaker with Dynasty and Shock

[minor flame]

toronto is underrated but

their goats are pretty basic

albeit great

theyll suffer from the inability of flexing and sombra

[balmy wolf]

Fucking seoul against nyxl again i have ptsd from last match

I hate seeing what used to be such a powerhouse get destroyed by a team they used to have such great matches against back in apex and stage 1 and 2

At least seoul made it to the playoffs being a seoul fan isn't that bad right

Just want to see them on their old level again FeelsBadMan

[queen drift]

shock didnt make playoffs?

[vale pond]

!schedule

[tawny sigil]

yeah they did

[queen drift]

This is the ideal match up
And it happened between a coin toss and non-broadcasted tiebreaker with Dynasty and Shock

that confused me

thought q finals were already done

[tawny sigil]

thats tommorow

they did offline matches to tiebreakers

was there a tiebreaker for fussion and defiant?

[queen drift]

didnt toronto beat philly

in regular season

they do head to head match results before a tiebreaker

[tawny sigil]

ok

everyone gets money now....

just making it into the playoff gets your as much money as finishing second last year did

[uneven wren]

toronto and philly didn't play each other

the fusion/defiant tiebreaker was decided by a mutually agreed on coin flip

tor/phi first game is s2w2

then s4w2

[boreal bronze]

is there any matches today boys?

[uneven wren]

no, tomorrow has the stage playoffs matches

[boreal bronze]

Bet

I can't believe Shock beat Dynasty for the seeding match

Like whattt

[limber pine]

Seoul was playing their b-team supposedly

[karmic grotto]

why

did they want to play nyxl so badly

[pearl stratus]

Psychologically it makes sense.

You're most likely going to be playing them anyway.

So you can play them fresh, first opponent and potentially set pace for the rest of the playoffs

Or you play them later, somewhat tired

Also NYXL being the first match means you can focus strats and not have to worry about winning the spot to get to play them.

[vale pond]

Thats cute they think they can beat xl

[zenith linden]

imagine shangai beating xl

[ruby pendant]

lol

wouldn't be surprised if it happened, NYXL did lose during playoffs early last year

[balmy wolf]

I would love to see soul beat nyxl but i honestly just want a close and exciting match

[pearl stratus]

I mean imagining Shanghai beating XL would be like imaging XL getting to the Grand Finals.

Because so far neither things have happened 😛

But maybe Pavane learned CPR this year so they wont' choke.

[boreal bronze]

If Seoul b team does good, why wouldn’t they play their a team? I don’t understand playing their b team for the seeding

Super must’ve been playing out of his mind

[trim shadow]

https://www.theplayerslobby.com/4285/my-constant-battle-aaron-bischu-kim-la-gladiators/#.oM5rf7gJtG

[jagged crater]

bischu is walter white now

[low karma]

@balmy wolf

[jagged crater]

stay out of bischu's territory

[karmic grotto]

But will be play?

[supple prism]

I'm not surprised shock beat dynasty, but I am surprised they went 3-0.

[jagged crater]

stage 2 they say

shock is nutty breh

they got crusty and 5 dps players doing well in a non-dps meta

i think they're set for next stage

[supple prism]

I think shock will get 3rd in next stage and possibly be undefeated

[night tusk]

https://twitter.com/bonniequeue/status/1108500829500264448

bonnie1 (@bonniequeue)

q: can you say something to yangxiaolong and jiqiren
all the hunters: you don't need to come here anymore

Twitter

there was a leak

that seoul wanted the coin flip

maybe they did not want to prepare for shock and focus for NYXL

[vale pond]

its quite clear they threw lol

[trim shadow]

@supple prism they most likely put there B team in

[gaunt acorn]

they did put their B team in

[jagged crater]

coinflip esports LUL

[supple prism]

Well it probably cost them $25k in winnings

[trim shadow]

they probably saw nyxl was the 2nd seed

and wanted to play nyxl

either way they were gonna face nyxl on that side of the chart

[mint flower]

Can someone explain wut the hell happened with the whole coin toss thing?

I'm confused af

[earnest canopy]

Toronto and philly were tied for 3rd seed, so they mutally agreed to flip a coin to determine who got 3rd seed

[mint flower]

And who won?

[earnest canopy]

Toronto won the toss, so they took the 3rd place seed

Philly takes the 4th place, because they lost the toss

Hence why the faceoffs are now:
(1st seed) VAN vs. (8th seed) BOS
(2nd seed) NY vs. (7th seed) SEO
(3rd seed) TOR vs. (6th seed) SF
(4th seed) PHL vs. (5th seed) ATL

[mint flower]

and I assume there was supposed to be a coin toss for the san fran and seoul

[earnest canopy]

Nope, they agreed to play a match

[mint flower]

and san fran won, correct?

[earnest canopy]

Correct

3-0

[mint flower]

When was this played

[earnest canopy]

Yesterday at 2pm PDT

4pm PDT was the coin toss

They streamed it live on the OWL instagram account

[mint flower]

but not on twitch?

interesting

[earnest canopy]

Yea, not sure why tbh

Uber did say that he and Mr X did cast the match, so if the footage does get released, there will be good commentary.

[mint flower]

@earnest canopy Was this match first to 3 wins or was there a tie map?

[earnest canopy]

Honestly I couldn't tell you lad, I'm not sure. I'd say it'd be the first to three though. They did play Busan, then each map after that was "Loser chooses"

[tawny sigil]

so they let the team decide if it was a fight or coin toss?

[gaunt acorn]

yes

[earnest canopy]

@tawny sigil Yep, The coin toss makes sense, as the winner of that has to play Shock or Dynasty. Prevents soft throwing to get Atlanta, who is quite strong, but not stronger than Seoul or San Fran. (debatable)

[gaunt acorn]

seoul chose a coin toss, but shock declined

[earnest canopy]

^

[tawny sigil]

whats the point to ask seoul if shock decides in the end

[earnest canopy]

To quote the vpesports article: "San Francisco Shock turned Dynasty’s offer to toss a coin down and asked to play the series out as the rules indicate instead. As the loser of the coin flip would face the undefeated New York Excelsior in the first round of the playoff bracket instead of the winner of the Defiant-Fusion tiebreaker, the actions by both teams imply that the Shock saw their chances to win against the Dynasty in a tiebreaker favorably, while the South Korean team were less confident in their own ability to win"

Both teams have to agree on a coinflip for it to go ahead

[tawny sigil]

ok

[hidden vault]

Isn't it better if the winner gets to play Atlanta instead?

But damn I think Tor vs Atl would be fun

Because it's hard to tell who is the 4th

[trim shadow]

the bracket is already filled out tho

[tawny sigil]

Think we're gonna see some Bastist meta?

in OWL?

bastion and baptiste seems so good

[long dock]

Bunker will be the new goats

[earnest canopy]

@hidden vault San fran are much more confident facing off against Seoul and Atlantas than they are against NYXL, and to be fair, I don't blame them.

Will be interesting to see if we get one stable comp run through stage 2, or multiple strats that can benefit each teams ideal playstyle. Goats will still be an option I think, but teams like Chengdu and Guanzhou will have greater room to flex their creative muscles.

Has there been word of when the latest patch will be filtered through to OWL?

[hidden vault]

@earnest canopy I know
I'm talking about the the match between phi and tor

[balmy wolf]

When you run into your old teammate in scrims from your 4.3k team and he joined a 4.5k team

[hidden vault]

You have to up your game leggo

[earnest canopy]

@hidden vault ohhh right, sorry, that's my bad for misunderstanding. Honestly it probably would play out better that way, just the way the seeds work I guess.

How did the last engagement between tor and ATL go, didn't ATL roll over them 4-0?

[supple prism]

3-1 against outlaws

[earnest canopy]

Yea I remember that match, sadly

[supple prism]

they 4-0 paris in the 3rd week

[earnest canopy]

The TOR-ATL match I'm asking bout.

[austere parcel]

I just want a new york v vancouver final. Two unbeaten teams seeing who can get the first punch in

[hidden vault]

Arhh it's okay don't sweat it

It was a 3-1 in Atlanta's favour

[trim shadow]

im hoping next stage is a mix of different comps

it will be the pinnacle of overwatch leauge

[earnest canopy]

^ this. A thousand times this.

A Vancouver NY game would generate a fair bit of hype I think, easily the two best teams from this stage going head to head.

Battle of the 7-0s

[trim shadow]

@earnest canopy it could brew a rivarly since vancouver isnt that far from new york

[earnest canopy]

I'm all for that! Gimme some rivalries and drama to make the games even more juicy ae

[trim shadow]

Sorry i lied

Vancouver is closer to california

But it would be a nice rivarly

Since vancouver and new york are the two coldest cities out of all the teams

And have favorable markets

Vancouvers home arena is gonna be so cleann and cool looking

[earnest canopy]

I'm really keen to see how the 2020 season will be, with teams playing in their home states/cities

[fathom acorn]

Does that mean they’ll have more blizzard arenas?

Or rent out other arenas

[uneven wren]

vancouver is considerably warm in winter

boston and toronto are colder

[gaunt acorn]

@trim shadow uh lol toronto is much colder than vancouver

vancouver doesn't even get snow most years

[trim shadow]

Vancouver is like surrounded by foresty hills

@fathom acorn the orgs for the teams pay for there own arenas

[hidden vault]

That's why vancouver is green?

[gaunt acorn]

i mean, they're taken from the canucks colours

but yes, the canucks colours are derived from the green forests and blue ocean

and are a staple colour scheme of the entire pacific northwest

[supple prism]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhMDvzNcKkk

[trim shadow]

Well see how well philly tru is in mental warfare friday

[hidden vault]

Why not call Vancouver Titans Vancouver Canucks

[fathom acorn]

Normal viewers, or as we like to call them, jaynes

[north tendon]

remind me of the playoff format?

how many games do you need to win?

[limber pine]

It’s single elimination

So the winner need to win a Bo5 and two Bo7s

[cyan pier]

damn i forgot playoffs start today!! go titans 😄

[vale pond]

Fucking titans gonna lose to xl

[trim shadow]

is there any owl players who were dropped playing in contenders?

[inland pawn]

is contenders like the d-league of NBA or something?

[trim shadow]

open division is the d leauge

[inland pawn]

then whats contenders

[trim shadow]

a battle royale for amateurs some wanting to join owl and some who just want to play

[ripe ridge]

is there anyway for Dallas Fuel to make the playoffs?

like if both and gets completely destroyed

[cyan pier]

cant tell if troll or serious

[ripe ridge]

serious

idk shit about this

[cyan pier]

https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/schedule

they didnt make it

[vernal mauve]

Sadly it's GGs for Dallas Fuel for this play off

[ripe ridge]

sadCat

[cyan pier]

burnblue 😦

[swift moth]

rip dynasty

unless ryuejehong is actually better than jonak nyxl bouta destroy

[trim shadow]

dallas was eliminated the moment philly won

and took a map

gonna be a realist and say dallas probably lost out on there only oppurtunity at a stage playoff

[hot lark]

When does OWL end?

[balmy wolf]

A league is OWL