That wasn't the first team to play the comp.
#esports-discussion
trim shadow
Yea nip did goats wayyy back then
In like apex
Well nip is the first team to use deathball from apex days
That ive seen
pearl stratus
Sometimes overwhelming force and sustain is the best solution.
There's always going to be some form of deathball, some form of a bunker/pirate ship, etc. They never go away, they just fade out for a bit.
pearl stratus
That's more by the fact the meta is never one thing only.
As much as whiny morons like to pretend it is.
Even when we had dive and mercy in season 1 we still had our bunker comps on Ilios-Well/Nepal-Sanctum.
Still had pirate ship on Junkertown
Still had tank heavy comps with a Moira on HLC.
People tend to get overly sensitive and upset that teams swap to whats best for certain things.
Best example is Numbani A right now.
You play a comp to take the point, then you drop back to Goats to take B and C. Because those are the best comps for those points.
Or you pull a Houston Outlaws in Season 1.
And let Jake go Torb from B to C.
So fucking weird.
vernal mauve
True but Goats comp values cooldown management and positioning harder than individual skill.
Which feels a bit unfair in the long run.
trim shadow
If ow was like a normal hero shooter moba game i dont think da community would be mad about goats
It would also be eaiser to balance
But jeff wanted open switching
pearl stratus
I side with ZP on Goats.
It's actually, despite peoples whining and bitching, been one of the best things to happen to the game for the long term.
Because you couldn't just get carried. It needed your whole team.
If you couldn't coordinate, you were fucked.
sullen berry
I believe dallas fuel season 1 was marred by not just better teams but creative liberty that's more pronounced in season 2 (fewer triple dps comps and their attempts at dive being a huge detriment)
pearl stratus
And thats perfectly fair.
It's also why I don't think Blizzard should nerf heroes like Sombra or Doomfist for ladder.
vernal mauve
I agree on the team part
pearl stratus
Because coordination and teamwork are acceptable counters.
sullen berry
ZP sums what I think about a broad use of GOATs to treat moba strategies seriously
trim shadow
Goats looks good for stats
pearl stratus
If your team can't coordinate and communicate you deserve to be punished.
vernal mauve
But when's the last time you experienced teamplay when solo queueing?
sullen berry
If gamsu can, why not bring on more league dota players who are interested
pearl stratus
But that also doesn't change the point - you don't nerf someone because people are selfish and stupid about working as a team.
Thats on them.
vernal mauve
Yeah, I don't stack because I don't want to feel responsible for other people's sr.
Weird reason, I know.
pearl stratus
You're not nerfing a hero for being overpowered
You're nerfing a hero because your players are shit and stupid
And I do not agree with that.
It's why I like GOATS because it shows who on a team doesn't work like a team.
And who can learn too.
Prime examples being the dichotomy of Zacharee and Sinatraa.
Both were on Team USA in the OWWC.
Both were shit at Goats.
Hyper dumpster shit.
vernal mauve
Were
pearl stratus
Sinatraa learned, he's solid now on Goats.
vernal mauve
Zacharee is still pretty shit at it
pearl stratus
Zach did not.
And you still see him getting picked off because he doesn't work with his team.
trim shadow
Zach is playing brig tho
pearl stratus
Yeah the easier role.
And he still couldn't adapt to using his E properly.
Sinatraa changed his entire style of bubbles.
vernal mauve
Yeah, it feels like he wants to solo carry.
But he's too impatient and selfish
pearl stratus
As a Coach that means Sinatraa has a lot of growth capacity and can adapt to new playing styles with some work.
That's huge.
Zach got picked up because he's Aeros cabin boy.
vernal mauve
Sinatraa never was a bad player, a bit too arrogant for my tastes, but I admired his style.
pearl stratus
That's what I like out of Goats, it highlights your teams weakpoints very easily.
trim shadow
Sinatraa is worth 200k so betta he play to his contract
pearl stratus
And you either coach them, or get taken advantage of.
Look at Boston dealing with Sombra now.
They adjusted pretty quickly.
trim shadow
cough valiant cough
pearl stratus
Hence the Coach part.
You can see which teams don't have either good coaches, or enough respect to listen to the coach.
Good coaches in the league? Bishop. You can see Torontos growth from game to game.
LAG coaching staff did a 180 in a week.
RUI from Chengdu taking the joke of the Rein and making him into a Bumper counter.
But then you get teams like LAV, Florida, Washington.
Which can't even manage simple manuevers in 3:3.
Dive was a great meta, but dive could hide a lot of issues if your Tracer was good enough.
pearl stratus
I can't even tell whose fault it is anymore.
I really think Wizardhyeong is massively overrated.
pearl stratus
But he could be coaching them well, and they just don't listen.
trim shadow
Its wizards players
vernal mauve
I was excited to see Fahzix getting picked up for an OWL team.
But the way they perform, it hurts.
pearl stratus
But even then Janus shouldn't look so lost.
trim shadow
Janus has showed signs of greatness
Not the rest of his team
Peep those 3k shatters
limber pine
Monte is literally screaming at them on the cast to do something against seoul and they don't do anything
pearl stratus
Still have no clue who Fits is.
But Fits did so well against Washington he got some of the highest /10 minute numbers.
limber pine
tbf lots of ppl would
pearl stratus
But thats what I mean.
A B team, relatively unheard of player, tore them apart that easily. You didn't have to be Nenne to do it.
Thats how lost they are.
limber pine
aye
vernal mauve
Ooft
trim shadow
I can look at washington and i can hear the miscommunication
vernal mauve
On another note Nenne is a godlike Zarya
pearl stratus
Yeah here: Fits
Damage - 2nd
Final Blows - 13th
Eliminations - 8th
Deaths - 7th
If you want good stats you just play Washington.
limber pine
is winston's lab still working?
pearl stratus
Yeah
pearl stratus
He just thinks he can call people out since he got rid of his pedophile moustache.
Dude can suddenly go to playgrounds again
And this is how he acts.
vernal mauve
Lmao
sullen berry
Always the same, I can't fault him not changing what he does best
pearl stratus
Oh I don't either, he's a shit talker.
Every league needs one.
Why do you think the NBA held onto Charles Barkley for so long?
sullen berry
He will use the outlaws as his battering ram forever and always 
vernal mauve
Also, what happened to Valiant?
Since we're talking about lost teams.
pearl stratus
The one thing I do call him out on is being a bitch with no balls.
Because he pulls his punches with London now.
And I don't respect that.
sullen berry
Literally nothing happened so internal issues have been creeping up
limber pine
Kariv is an average Zarya, Agilites is an average Brig, and Kuki is an average Lucio
pearl stratus
And a mixed roster isn't working.
vernal mauve
Well, it feels like they played musical chairs with heroes.
pearl stratus
My take on it:
They physically can't play Custa, because he can't communicate with Fate in a call heavy meta.
So they end up with a disconnect on their tank / support line.
So they resort to Kuki.
vernal mauve
Is that actually the reason Custa isn't seeing playtime?
pearl stratus
It wouldn't be the first time we've seen it.
It's like having ot be careful who you play with Fissure.
So if Fate and Custa have differing opinions, but they're both calling, you get a team that does nothing in the end.
Seems logical to me, at least.
sullen berry
Amsr Monte (to Houston) : Think about how it would feel to lose to the only team mathematically eliminated from stage playoffs.. How the Florida Mayhem was the only good match you looked good in this season
vernal mauve
A lot of good S1 OWL teams became a joke this season.
And some just grew into bigger jokes.
pearl stratus
You can tell which ones didn't scrim properly.
The expansion teams had contenders players who did nothing but 3:3 for the last 9 months.
pearl stratus
They were losing to contenders teams in scrims iirc.
sullen berry
But not enough? But they had a Goats strategy working in their favour and showed it all to their OWL scrim partners?
pearl stratus
Paris only has two glaring issues that I can, personally, see.
Zarya and Kruise.
Kruise needs a bit of a leash.
People figured out his aggressive playstyle, they punish it
And they need a Zarya.
Desperately.
They look like Stage 3 houston right now.
vernal mauve
Soon is good but his Zarya style leaves a lot to be desired
pearl stratus
But instead of Tracer its Zarya.
limber pine
do they not have a zarya player on their team
sullen berry
So long as zarya offensive mechanics are more than just junkrat primary fire and hitscan
pearl stratus
Soon and Shadowburn are both garbage at it.
limber pine
like, somebody who actually plays zarya and not a dps flexing
pearl stratus
One of them should be fine.
sullen berry
Not sure teams are actively looking after the decay bidding war
limber pine
finnsi?
slow walrus
"KRUISE IS A FEEDER"
vernal mauve
I like Nico better on DVa than Finnsi, sue me
pearl stratus
Because right after that Dogman lined up behind a dog and fucking screwed the pooch against Glad.
And looked worse than when he played in Contenders
It was hubris at its finest.
sullen berry
Dogsh*t vs Pogman
pearl stratus
Flat out just turned into Dogshit against Glad.
I tweeted him a picture of an industrial size gallon of lube for his asshole after that match.
Since six guys took turns on it.
vernal mauve
Atlanta Reign is performing better than expected tho.
Didn't think they would be this succesful, expected more of a meme team to be honest.
pearl stratus
Eh.
They're performing well.
But they showed a LOT of cracks against LAG.
And those cracks weren't just LAG fixing stuff.
vernal mauve
Let me rephrase that, better than my expectations.
pearl stratus
They legit looked lost for half the game.
Also you got to see really clearly how putting pressure on Dafran knocks his playstyle down a peg or two.
He already feeds like he's a part of UNICEF.
vernal mauve
Lmao
pearl stratus
If he could learn to stay alive his stats would rival a lot more Zaryas.
sullen berry
Please donate a goat through TearFund
pearl stratus
But being almost the worst player in the league at deaths hurts him.
pearl stratus
Also - and I'm unsure why no teams have taken advantage of this - they do not look strong on DPS comps.
Their Point A Anubis comp has not played well once.
Erster plays well.
sullen berry
We shall see
pearl stratus
But as a team, they haven't on that comp yet.
sullen berry
First match for Eternal in stage 2 will be against a triple dps heavy charge
They just never go all in
pearl stratus
Part of it is Nlaeer has been a super underwhelming widow.
And he keeps trying to play it into like...
Happy.
limber pine
burn
limber pine
won't erster be their projectile player?
sullen berry
You would though, seeing Happy is still playing widow the most this stage
pearl stratus
Diem, Happy, tc.
sullen berry
Why is erster good at both dps and DVa 🤔
pearl stratus
Diems positioning on Widow against London on Ilios was like....
Wtf.
But he was getting his picks.
sullen berry
Is he seagull reincarnate?
pearl stratus
Into their spawn.
We have a couple Seagull reincarns.
Erster, Dding are the two most prominent.
But you can't bad mouth Hotba.
sullen berry
Just in hero pool profile
sullen berry
Hotba going to be a huge target compared to Rio going into the rematch
pearl stratus
I actually liked that weird set up from Houston btw.
If they played more shit like that, they'd do so much better.
sullen berry
Rio and bumper are polar opposites
pearl stratus
I feel bad for Houston on one end, since they're trying to get sold off.
So you know no one is going to heavily invest in the roster and replace what they need to.
vernal mauve
Bumper is strange though.
Sometimes he looks like a god player and there are moments where he fails basic stuff like a gold player.
I love watching him but he can be inconsistent.
pearl stratus
It's because he's as good as his team.
When he looks amazing its 99% of the time because Slime and Twilight are insane.
limber pine
^
sullen berry
Both Rumper and Bio look great when their not picked off first
vernal mauve
True, those guys are seriously undervalued
pearl stratus
I wouldn't say undervalued.
Most people realize it, just not the ones who only know of Runaway from OWL.
sullen berry
They do what their team needs but the execution can be on point most of the time
pearl stratus
If Texas Entertainment gets their buy out I wonder if we'll see Houston spending some money.
sullen berry
I couldn't see Rio playing for a team without the stacked synergy of his bellum core
vernal mauve
Also, this is something small but I feel like some OWL casters have no idea what they're speaking of.
sullen berry
They probably wouldn't fare better without him, more so as a pickup
sullen berry
Some casters have said it's hardest to cast
pearl stratus
Hex and Doa both can be a little spacy. But GOATS is so hard to cast.
Because its the smallest shit that can be major
One wrong bubble, for instance.
And its easy to miss that.
sullen berry
UberX duo is a mix of Cs go(check me on this) and CoD
pearl stratus
Whereas Dive you could basically cast off the kill feed.
vernal mauve
yeah, plus you could actually see what was going on.
No crazy particle effects stacked on top of each other.
balmy wolf
is there any lft channel
sullen berry
Monte says its less about the birds eye map they have for covering team fights
pearl stratus
Eh arguably when the dive collapsed on someone you didn't see anything.
sullen berry
!!LFG @balmy wolf
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balmy wolf
ty friend
sullen berry
If you're a man who stares at goats
I love the utility I get from watching closer and chara's perspective
Because of the teams in top 10 right now
Chara dies first in lost team fights, I consider him as one of the weakest lucio mains
trim shadow
@pearl stratus i think pokpo needed that lube
pearl stratus
I tended to watch Slime and IDK, because of their booping tendency during the grav bomb combos.
trim shadow
That was brutal to watch the korean get gang raped
And daftan couldnt do shit for him
vernal obsidian
trim shadow
He is
sullen berry
I want more wrecking ball stats after 1st map
hammond rollouts could also be much more aggressive
all these options, but only 5-7 teams would i say have used them outside of last second holds
sullen berry
possible methods
too many players with potential visa issues? More players per team is not completely out
the real solution is that teams are designed to play within their division at their venues
so all Pacific teams will need to concern themselves with visas within places like the US / SEA / China
the latter applies to Atlantic division teams
at some point they converge and who knows if they only face off in LANs at the arena or something for stage playoffs next season
night tusk
I hope this risk will reward. what if the fanbase of other places is actually not that big (public/fans for live matches)
sullen berry
that's why season 2 is a thing
not at all risking low turnout and high prices people won't pay to watch gamers live
instead
you have the 1 week before end of stages 2, 3 and 4 all in the US
but all at different venues to test out the logistics and operational success
dallas one is in 1 month and 2 weeks
you may have noticed not every team plays across those 4 days
we never got the full image of a quiet day on the OW League stage
trim shadow
atlanta and los angeles are afterwards
and i dont know how los angeles will be different sense los angeles home venue mines as well be the blizzard arena
river magnet
!schedule
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tidal loom
need an owl trash talk thread
balmy wolf
Just go to /r/cow and say something negative about Dallas.
trim shadow
if they bash houston im in
outer sluice
Outlaws 3-1 RATlanta
don’t get mad if we make the stage playoffs ☠️💀
And maybe...
Beat the nyxl
balmy wolf
Okay Outlaws beating Reign is unlikely, but don't kid yourself that they could beat NYXL
outer sluice
Keyword: maybe
outer sluice
You don’t think we can beat reign?
balmy wolf
It's a possibility
outer sluice
They got steamrolled by the GLADS
balmy wolf
True
But Gladiators have looked a lot better with Decay in the lineup over Surefour
minor flame
Chengdu has a chance against ATL but
ATL has very good dps rivaling chengdu
and are prob more polished than them
but you never know what comes out of RUI's mind
outer sluice
Outlaws are gonna be hungry for a W to send them to stage playoffs
minor flame
so we may see some crazy ass shit
upper niche
Oof, so I just looked at the schedule in the local time where I am at the moment (Singapore), matches start at 3am on Sunday and Monday.
outer sluice
Who’s your team
balmy wolf
I can't wait for Dogman to yell out "RAWKUS IS A FEEDER"
sullen berry
Never assume who you fanboy
If I still want to support a guangzhou to win it all
They're in a comfortable spot for stage Play-ins if they remain consistent as I expect them to be
sullen berry
GZ Academy was announced yesterday so we got enough 2-way players fronting up and actually using it for its intended purpose
Because now Onlywish is definitely not coming on for a while over Chara
surreal lichen
Unpopular opinion: Dafran is the one of the few popular personalities that’s keeping OWL relevant.
sullen berry
Not wrong at all
outer sluice
I mean you’re not wrong
sullen berry
You think about which players had a heritage coming from livestream and realise who really had the right people behind them
minor flame
but its not like its necessarily making OWL relevant
sullen berry
His fans aren't even close to Sephy's contribution
minor flame
one person on one team that doesnt play often doesnt really contribute to making OWL more talked about
unless he makes some play thats unique and everyone starts overhyping it
outer sluice
#throwfordafran
sullen berry
*sees xQc in legion" 👀
Twitch chat during Gladiators match: SHOW ME XQC MY DUDE
Also joining the dallas fuel voice channels was 10/10 worth when they raided chat mid-match
They are united by cringe and bad memories
limber pine
You’re an idiot
pearl stratus
Just as a casual reminder:
xQc will never play for Legion in 99.9% of circumstances.
He just accepted it for the travel visa to get back to the US.
cold cargo
I want a league for shit players like me who can't get out of bronze
vale pond
The atlanta chengdu game could go either way
But I can see it being 3-2 atlanta
And then atlanta will best houston 3-1 or 4-0
vale pond
Still
Want and ability are separate
Chengdu almost beat vancouver
I agree that atlanta is a bit more polished esp after the glads game
But ameng could be trouble
patent plinth
Alright im going to owl tomorrow and i want to make an Anti-goats sign but im not clever at all so I need some help making something catchy
and on the back i want something to say like "Give orisa a saddle!" and a picture of orisa being ridden like a horse by zen
tag me if you have ideas!! ❤
pearl stratus
Just do a giant picture of a Johnson and Johnsons No More Tears bottle.
People will understand it as anti-Goats.
Due to all the bitching and crying.
patent plinth
nice
queen drift
I don’t think Dafran is what’s keeping the league relevant
Dude I never knew the no-more-tears thing is like
Hair tears
Not crying tears
sullen berry
If Boston can get Gillette
Why wouldn't Johnsons considsr looking at one of these US teams
vital scaffold
Why is valiant loosing with Kariv?
sullen berry
he's been put on dps for the second time in OW League
not many people can comfortably go from flex support to a whole range of hitscan dps
and nearly every instance i can recall he's either being reaper and dying or just putting in meh plays
balmy wolf
harryhook's hitscan even tho hes usually main support 
sullen berry
I liked the old team spain harryhook
he was their main dps
and his ana was a godsend on the international scene
unless i'm thinking of chipshajen
sullen berry
yeah can't spell it, my fingers are being unkoe
balmy wolf
team france unkoe best unkoe
i do remember the fuel roster reveal and just thought
"well no ones gonna be playing pharah against them"
sullen berry
inb4 fleta and his dps flexing on anubis
balmy wolf
akm, taimou, effect, and harryhook, with unkoe commonly on ana
sullen berry
what do you think about the fuel roster now
because they're coping better without taimou
balmy wolf
i have controversial opinions on taimou
sullen berry
but I'm reasonably assured that his fingers have recovered and are ready to click heads
balmy wolf
taimou has really good aim and can do many great things but it was mainly cocco on suhc an aggro main tank that enabled him to do so well
like cocco in ranked is fucking stellar, it is amazing to me how a rein/winston can do that much as a tank
sullen berry
cocco's winston/orisa was a storyline going downhill during season 1
balmy wolf
i can land every shot as soldier, hit every helix combo on tracer, yet this man will still contest me at gold damage
lets see if his coach role now is his redemption
also its controversial because taimous widow is.... not amazing. he can be beaten by many hitscans in the league
in apex against bkstars they made it relatively easy for the widow to do so much because they decided to pressure the ana so it cost them getting pot shot during rotations
effect is better than taimou on cree
akm is better than taimou on widow
i dont see a reason for him to play at all
sullen berry
okay i realised that didn't answer my question
what do you think of akm as their star zarya
or zachareee
sullen berry
closer was the #1 must watch when the player POVs were available to everyone
balmy wolf
akm is extremely flexible and adapts quickly, i do believe he has the skillset required to do amazing on zarya even comparable to long time zarya mains like spree or zunba
sullen berry
I knew in the shock matchup they didn't do well
but closer was having none of the nervousness the others were having
held the team up alright
balmy wolf
its just the time needed to reach that level is going to be difficult with the lesgue just starting
and i agree
closer is a great addition
sullen berry
and rck?
balmy wolf
they definitely needed a solid dva player, and theres not many better than rck
so in contenders talk rck is well known for being so good at sucu a high level at so many roles
with his focus on dva im sure they can do great things
since mickie is gonna be on brig mainly
also isnt closer like rich
trim shadow
Closer is crinimally underrated
vale pond
why is london so overrated
like they arent that good rn
stop acting like they are people
ruby pendant
!schedule
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blyat
vale pond
Holy crap montecristo’s power rankings are terrible
trim shadow
cristo said atlanta is a fool if they think there a top team i cant wait for atlanta to get to semis
trim shadow
hidden vault
How is he getting this stats
queen drift
It’s a bit hard to overrate London because they won not that long ago
Doesn’t mean anything and they’re doing badly this stage
But there’s always gonna be some bias
night tusk
Soon a party so can't watch OWL today :/
But go seoul
First win against london please
trim shadow
ay mong
spring heath
its game day baby~~
night tusk
Hi again
night tusk
Carpe does not even know his name I guess lol
Jjonak had this with a team I believe lmao
trim shadow
just play goats - zachare
night tusk
Goats goats goats
night tusk
Sideshoww
spring heath
poor goats
trim shadow
Blizzard is just rubbing salt in the wound
inland pawn
i think this is what happens when people dont play dps characters
trim shadow
I was hoping the original goats squad with gator would@show up
worn hornet
WTF they have actual goats?
spring heath
night tusk
5 is the most heroes played by one player..
All main tanks = 4, if a main tank needs to stagger he have 5 aswell
zealous venture
the goat thing was so cringy
gilded peak
Interesting, the GOATS have decided
zealous venture
tbh
trim shadow
Yes @zealous venture
gilded peak
TBH, their whole segment is pretty bad
night tusk
He djd not wanted to eat seoul 😦 guess we lose
gilded peak
They need to do it how they did it in the OWWC, that was more enjoyable to watch
trim shadow
Seoul is fucked since there own goat didnt wanna eat
zealous venture
so be aware, if boston loses today ill go back to toxic evil me like i always am
gilded peak
Oh? That was you?
zealous venture
im known to be the toxic boston fan boy
gilded peak
Honestly, not a big fan of Dallas, so hopefully they lose
zealous venture
good
gilded peak
Mainly because of the coach Jayne.
inland pawn
i hope dallas wins just so mammal can be toxic
gilded peak
That's fun too, lol
gilded peak
But is their tank better?
trim shadow
Aimgod and aid are mediocre
If boston does make it close yes fusion is responsable
Cause oge is also mediocre
gilded peak
OGE is pretty bad
Oh? Bracket is already set? Intersting
Really hope to see Titans vs NYXL.
trim shadow
Atlanta is fucked
inland pawn
Valiant PogU
zealous venture
we will see
gilded peak
Everybody knows who's going to win
gilded peak
Will Washington finally get their first win?
north beacon
Wonder if titans will top the standings after tomorrow
They need to at least 3-0 I think
gilded peak
It really depends if they can 4-0
3-1 will be a 2-way tie to first place I think?
Yep, NYXL +16 and Titans +14
north beacon
If they tie a map it could end up 3-0
queen drift
hes shit but benbest is a handsome cunt
gilded peak
True, so Titans gotta win big if they want to stay at the #1
gilded peak
Still though, to think we will have 2 undefeated team in the first stage
vestal cypress
Does Idling Two Different Twitch streams simultaneously work? Trying to get Madden Drops while watching OWL.
inland pawn
👌🏿
north beacon
I feel like NY still gets the most excited about beating Seoul
But I think a new rivalry will start with titans
gilded peak
Because LW Blue always lost to Lunatic Hai back then all the time
So they are overjoyed to beat them.
Washington definitely is getting better and better in each game.
minor flame
theyre still pretty shit
gilded peak
Yep, lol
spring heath
signs of life
gilded peak
They gave up point to get the high ground. Was not very effective
Maybe, just maybe, they'll get better by Stage 3
keen void
Can someone explain to me how Janus keeps getting destroyed? honest question, I'm a new OWL fan
balmy wolf
I hate it when people are spamming janus feeder Washington just can't protect him because in goats meta it's all about cordination
gilded peak
Focusing the main shield tank is huge in goats.
trim shadow
Dude shouldve slammed the moment ben dropped his shield
elfin dagger
Paris wins omg
balmy wolf
Janus is a great tank buy he never get's bubble and his team isn't deciding on a move so he can't do anything
elfin dagger
Hyp is on fire, but Janus is not support by his team
keen void
Just seems like every single fight is lost in the exact same way, it seems like it's guaranteed every time
queen drift
typical genius
balmy wolf
If your main tank dies first every fight your team is playing horriblr
minor flame
toronto
gilded peak
Their support is pretty bad honestly.
minor flame
yakpung
simple badger
gilded peak
Oh wow, I didn't know Paris was -7
balmy wolf
Janus is the best player on the team that is why he is getting focussed
Plat chat at it's finnest
gilded peak
Why plat? Could be bronze, silver, maybe even gold.
minor flame
plat is the cesspool
minor flame
god these teams are so messy
queen drift
janus aint the best player on justice lul
balmy wolf
This game is by far the most boring from the day
gilded peak
Well... thats goats for you?
minor flame
this is literally the first game of the day but i would still agree with you
balmy wolf
@queen drift who is then lol
gilded peak
Sansam has been on point with his dva bomb
queen drift
sansam is worse, fahzix is worse, stratus is worse
balmy flower
anyone here actually drink that mountain dew gamer fuel drink?
gilded peak
Fahzix is just bad right now
balmy wolf
Calling a briggite player better then a main tank in this meta
balmy wolf
No i said he is the best on the team
queen drift
yeah brainfart
balmy flower
where did janus ult go?
queen drift
same poin, you said he's best
gilded peak
WOW
queen drift
not that main tank is best
gilded peak
COREY, really???
idle beacon
GO TITANS!
gonna watch reign later, and see how MAGICAL this dafran is .. and how well kodak is
minor flame
mehhh
gilded peak
Honestly, Dafran is meh
balmy wolf
How the fuck are you supposed to play a good main tank when your lucio dva and zarya are pure trash
gilded peak
He's good, but not good good
minor flame
kodak is good
gilded peak
Probably because of the meta
minor flame
thats about it
gilded peak
Dafran tracer use was great though
balmy wolf
Dafran performs his role not more
gilded peak
His tracer save on point was amazing
balmy wolf
His tracking is still inhuman though
minor flame
Dafrans tracking is great
but its like
mechanically outclassed still
lol sansam
so unlucky
queen drift
mechanics in 2k19
minor flame
atl seems to be more polished in
like skill
but chengdu im hoping to improve like they did last match
RUI is insane
sansam
spring heath
oi
minor flame
is literally carrying
lost dock
Anyone know where to buy overwatch league tickets
minor flame
jesus fucking christ justice and paris
so many ults
so little deaths
even with the advantage
justice
cant do shit
sansam still carrying
minor flame
yes
gilded peak
Yep, Washington keeps getting better each game. But sometimes its not enough
minor flame
imagine gravving
and still losing
Washington is still shit
and Paris is actual shit
so you cant really tell if both are really good
except for Sansam
Sansam has been on fire this match
spring heath
how is sansam's dva compared to other dvas
minor flame
hes like
meh
but his bombs have been great
he could be like a bot 5 dva
but hes been getting off great bombs this one match
gilded peak
Justice support definitely improved from first map
balmy flower
holy fuck so many ads
spring heath
"thats huge kill onto soon" lulw
minor flame
youll get used to it
gilded peak
What was he doing?!?!?
minor flame
i go ad block-less for my entirel ife
queen drift
this is
spring heath
oof
spring heath
big oof
minor flame
this is sad
queen drift
of the season
spring heath
haha i like watching it
queen drift
you like watching shit rot
gilded peak
Remember when people thought Paris was a good team? I don't, lol.
spring heath
yeah haha it's entertaining
balmy flower
justice vs mayhem is gonna be funny
magic birch
wizardhyeong wants out
minor flame
"wizardhyeong is prob best coach" pepega
elfin dagger
I'm fucking for Chengdu Hunters rn
spring heath
huge fuck for chengdu
minor flame
huge sex for chengdu
elfin dagger
The goat meta is good but it's like.. boring sometimes
Chengdu arrives with their exotics pics and boom
gilded peak
He was also the one who called himself a Genius Wizard, right?
balmy flower
funny enough valiant is doing worse than justice
minor flame
it gets boring when two teams
are shit at goats
fight each other
thats usually how it goes
magic birch
watch next patch
elfin dagger
Like Mahyem vs justice
minor flame
next patch is gonna include double sniper
magic birch
everyone just ignores chengdu
minor flame
and itll be even more boring
elfin dagger
it's gonna be sleepy
gilded peak
Doubt next patch will do anything.
balmy flower
yeah if they cant play their comp right it's viable to switch
minor flame
next patch wont do anything for a few weeks
magic birch
@elfin dagger he's on shock tho
gilded peak
Like when people said Hammond will change the game, but he didn't
minor flame
then itll take in place
hammond has kinda changed the game
hes a more key part in dive comps
elfin dagger
Sombra is a good pic in this meta btw
minor flame
Sombra is always a good pick
gilded peak
Barely, only Ameng uses him and its entertaining to watch but barely anything changes
queen drift
typical genius
elfin dagger
If you have a good IEM it's gonna be so clutch
minor flame
IEM
elfin dagger
(i'm french c:)
queen drift
e m p
gilded peak
Interesting.
minor flame
Sombra is a good pick for all of these metas so im afraid she'll get nerfed to the ground
elfin dagger
And Paris is trash, i say that before the Stage 1
gilded peak
Sombra got nerfed hard a lot
magic birch
realistically
minor flame
sombra emp is still very strong
gilded peak
Mainly because of the heal pack charge was just ridiculous
minor flame
people dont like being hacked
magic birch
fun fact
minor flame
so when beating gaots to the ground is getting boring and gone
sombra is the next target
gilded peak
DPS don't mind getting hacked. Only the tanks
magic birch
Washington has played the least amount of dps from all teams
minor flame
you always mind being hacked unless youre like a mccree
gilded peak
same for doomfist
gilded peak
She does damage, when she uses a full clip
minor flame
shes pretty inferior
gilded peak
The problem is that she needs a full clip to kill, I think? Actually, I don't know... How much dmg does her bullets do?
queen drift
you cant really compare "clips" in ow
minor flame
keep in mind tracers main thing is getting up close
minor flame
you cant get up close with sombra
queen drift
5 seconds cli p?
gilded peak
Well, I mean her Uzi is 60 bullets. She takes a while to empty it compared to Tracer
minor flame
yeah and she'll do less dpm than tracer overall
her main thing is hacking key targets
and emp
sansam
gilded peak
Does Paris actually even have a chance?
minor flame
in playoffs or getting in playoffs
queen drift
if they lose this they cant i dont think
gilded peak
This is Paris 6th game?
queen drift
i think they have to win all the rest of their maps
gilded peak
They are also -7
gilded peak
So they actually need to win every match if they want a chance but thats still low
Because Seoul and London are right there
coarse ginkgo
so Paris cant make playoffs now?
gilded peak
Very small chance
gilded peak
They do have to win every map, but thats still +1
coarse ginkgo
ok
queen drift
yeah some people have to lose hard
gilded peak
It just depends how bad Dallas, ATL or Charge loses
gilded peak
Maybe, it also depends how Seoul vs London game is
nova wadi
i dont believe titans will 4-0 gcz so we good
karmic grotto
lmao
gilded peak
It needs to be one sided for them to actually get in
Titans will win 3-1
I guarantee it 😄
queen drift
1 draw
gilded peak
Nah, 1 draw
nova wadi
gcz will bring titans to a map five
karmic grotto
can people stop screeching when they go dps
queen drift
never
gilded peak
Wouldn't you screech?
karmic grotto
no
gilded peak
I would, because I don't have to see GOATS
nova wadi
soon omegalul dps
supple prism
apparently swapped heroes
coarse ginkgo
is paris getting ddosed
queen drift
paris are so bad
opal spruce
remember when paris looked good
supple prism
no
supple prism
at least corey can grav
nova wadi
OMEGALUL
grim field
this game is so sad
nova wadi
fucking sansam dude
spring heath
sansam les go
ripe ridge
what
grim field
not as sad as valiant vs washington but still
queen drift
this game is fucking terrible
ripe ridge
how didnt they cap that one
queen drift
because theyre shite
nova wadi
this fucking game is so zzz
rapid locust
I miss the widow plays
nova wadi
i dont
coarse ginkgo
i didnt see valiant vs washington what happened
sharp quartz
no one knows, because they were napping
spring heath
lolol
sharp quartz
@spring heath those bombs were lit
rapid locust
valiant vs washington haven't played each other
supple prism
think he means paris
spring heath
those were some fatty bombs
rapid locust
and they don't play each other this stage
ripe ridge
huge boop
coarse ginkgo
why didnt kruise sound barrier
nova wadi
kruise is a feeder
rapid locust
that looked like they were on autopilot
spring heath
kruise just wants to be in the killfeed
supple prism
is kruise just wallriding too much?
rapid locust
I don't think so
ripe ridge
i mean, hes lucio, he probably havent touched the ground since season 2
nova wadi
yes finnsi
coarse ginkgo
wow
rapid locust
c9
coarse ginkgo
c9 lmao
ripe ridge
did they just walk off
supple prism
just muscled them off
coarse ginkgo
thaats a c9 they just walke off
solar trout
when both teams suck but one sucks less
ripe ridge
one sucks more*
nova wadi
walking off is literally not a c9
solar trout
- compared to other OWL teams
ripe ridge
am bad whats a c9
outer sluice
Lets go justice
coarse ginkgo
yes walking off is a c9
nova wadi
no it isnt
uneven wren
brutal c9
wintry kraken
@nova wadi whatever. it is stupid gameplay in any case
nova wadi
c9 is when you forget the point when you won the fight
wintry kraken
it is a FAIL, better ?
opal spruce
walking off is a Shang9
coarse ginkgo
no it doesnt need to be when u win the fight
just forgetting to contest period is a c9
spring heath
this chat's favorite thing to do is argue if it's a c9
wintry kraken
every time a c9 is said, it is going to have different definition
neat jewel
nah he's right, that wasn't a c9
outer sluice
I hope Washington beat the Paris SKEETernal
neat jewel
c9 is when you win a fight and leave the point uncapped
rustic perch
would help if the people could just get fucking rid of the word "c9" in general
wintry kraken
for most people, c9 is going to be "team could contest, but decided not to"
rustic perch
but what do i know
spring heath
its shang9 binch
neat jewel
you have to be attacking in order to c9
coarse ginkgo
oh crap
neat jewel
everyone just died
spring heath
it's a really good game
nova wadi
when both teams suck
grim field
lol
queen drift
its a terrible game wdym#
ripe ridge
but one sucks more
queen drift
the only reason its close is because both teams are so shit
spring heath
fox omg
outer sluice
Good
spring heath
detect my sarcasm pls
queen drift
fuck u and fuck ur sarcasm
outer sluice
RIP Paris SKEETernal
grim field
dayum
spring heath
❤
spring heath
i fk w yeezys
queen drift
same
wintry kraken
whatever, overwatch is just another game where everyone plays and in the end Koreans win
queen drift
i like that shit uniorinically and i hate myself
spring heath
same haha
nova wadi
i dont see whats bad about liking shoes
queen drift
theyre hypebeast shoes
ripe ridge
anyone else just watching for the credits?
opal spruce
^
nova wadi
they arent always
wintry kraken
they are not awarding them in my country
opal spruce
until dallas rolls around
neat jewel
I leave the stream open in the background with the page muted
ripe ridge
kanye west?
nova wadi
the greatest artist of this decade
wintry kraken
justice is going to lose
queen drift
it was yeekhan weezy
spring heath
lmao
nova wadi
@queen drift yes
ripe ridge
yall want justice or paris to win
nova wadi
neither
sharp quartz
wait... why does paris miss the playoffs if they lose the map?
sharp quartz
thought it was just the game?
wintry kraken
@sharp quartz map differential if wins are identical
opal spruce
im sorry what?
neat jewel
oh snap
nova wadi
POG WASHINGTON
ripe ridge
POG
queen drift
fucking paris
coarse ginkgo
lmao
spring heath
BINCH
ripe ridge
gg