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spring heath
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lmao

queen drift
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Look at the top of his head dude

fathom acorn
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Like there’s a lot of things you can say about goats

trim shadow
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go this way rein

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boom ult

fathom acorn
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But no skill is just

spring heath
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click heads ez

trim shadow
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get 5 people

fathom acorn
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Dumb

trim shadow
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put a dva right on the zens body

queen drift
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Look at this dude

spring heath
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ez game

trim shadow
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GET THE WHOLE TEAM

queen drift
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Look at this guy

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Look at the

trim shadow
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fucking

queen drift
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Look at the top of his head dude

fathom acorn
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Rusha

trim shadow
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nyxl and san fransico

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used 12 ults

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and not one death

fathom acorn
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You sound like a goats hating bot

queen drift
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THAT GOES

trim shadow
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that would be correct

queen drift
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Against what

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YOY HUST

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SAID

trim shadow
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heres the thing

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goats is ult spammy

hybrid quarry
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That's great utilization of ults, ult negation, and ult counters, then

trim shadow
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it works both ways

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who has the ult advantage wins

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whos more aggresie wins

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who synergizes better

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wins

hybrid quarry
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Goats relies on skill to get their ults charged up first

fathom acorn
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It’s almost like that’s majority of OW

spring heath
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yeah who wins wins

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whoa

hybrid quarry
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unfortunately, every comp is similar

queen drift
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I hate goats but it’s still skilled

trim shadow
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all zarya doing is shooting nuts across the map and personal shielding to get charge

hybrid quarry
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with that aspect

trim shadow
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and rein is holidng his shield and swinging like a mad man

hybrid quarry
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That's still

trim shadow
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brig is having tea

queen drift
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THIS GUYYH

trim shadow
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lucio is dancing

spring heath
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ana tea

hybrid quarry
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smart utilization of enemies as ult charge

spring heath
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emote

trim shadow
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dva is somewhere watching anime

fathom acorn
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THIS GUY IS LITERALLY JUST DESCRIBING HOW TO PLAY CHARACTERS

spring heath
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dva is not watching anime

fathom acorn
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How is this a goats problem

spring heath
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she is anime

queen drift
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Look at this guy

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Look at this dude

trim shadow
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i cant rant now a days anyway widowfacepalm

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ill just be called stupid cause im frustrated with blizzard lol

fathom acorn
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But like

queen drift
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You can be frustrated with blizzard and you can hate goats

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That’s fine

fathom acorn
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Blizzard is killing goats

queen drift
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But hate them for the right reason

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Saying they’re not skilled IS stupid

hybrid quarry
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if you plan to rant with such idiocracy in the ow server

trim shadow
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but the price of killing goats

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is making ladder hell

hybrid quarry
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that's go

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-ing to backfire

spring heath
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dafran stream

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js

fathom acorn
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How is it making ladder he’ll?

spring heath
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enjoi

hybrid quarry
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Metas come and go; adjust to the current meta

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If you cannot adapt, you aren't at a level that you can start complaining over this game

trim shadow
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^

fathom acorn
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Rusha

spring heath
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still jjdafran

fathom acorn
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He’s arguing against you

mint flower
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i think its jjafran

hybrid quarry
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^^

trim shadow
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no game can have a perfect balance

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its just impossible

spring heath
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naisuu ah

fathom acorn
trim shadow
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but when some heros have a power creep over others

spring heath
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real jj

trim shadow
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iz just ridiculous

spring heath
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lmao

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issa gud

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enjoi

fathom acorn
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As Jayne said: “who cares about cheese silver strats, they can only carry you so far”

spring heath
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jjafran

trim shadow
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yet jayne is a bad coach widowlol funny chat

fathom acorn
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And he’s right

spring heath
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gogogogo

fathom acorn
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If the game was balanced around silver it would take 90% of the skill out of it

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The fact is silver is a battle of who is less brain dead

mint flower
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jayne is a trash talking scumbag

fathom acorn
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I know cause I am a silver player

mint flower
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hes so arrogant and cocky

fathom acorn
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Jaynes right though

hybrid quarry
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Silver utilizes still d.va bombs and negated shatters

mint flower
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@fathom acorn silver is very much like that

hybrid quarry
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to win their fights

mint flower
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I was in silver for 4 seasons

fathom acorn
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Ik

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I am currently silver

mint flower
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absolute shitshow

fathom acorn
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Here bastion and reaper are our gods

hybrid quarry
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four seasons GWovoWhoDesu

fathom acorn
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Because players don’t know how to play

mint flower
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no skill involved

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just which team has less douchbags

fathom acorn
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But the best I can say isn’t that we should have the game balanced around us

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I say that silver players

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Should

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Git gud 5head

mint flower
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simple fix

fathom acorn
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Myself included

hybrid quarry
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Silver won't be "silver" anymore, though

mint flower
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@fathom acorn If I did it I think u can too 😃

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honestly i had my plat friends carry my dumb ass

hybrid quarry
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the only place where you can see rocket jump Bastions and long range Doomfists

mint flower
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xd

spring heath
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wow silver chat same

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so many cuck plays

queen drift
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Yaenon what region u in

spring heath
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na

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wanna play

queen drift
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Zzz I’m Eu

spring heath
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zzzzzzzz

novel warren
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Eu? thats an sleep

queen drift
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Was gonna offer help you out of silver

spring heath
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lmao thx dad

queen drift
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Np son

spring heath
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halp

gaunt acorn
trim shadow
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Houston tried to brag to sideshow about beating the valint widowlol

balmy wolf
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hello?

verbal roost
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wow shd 2-4 this season 😮

supple prism
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and will end 2-5

verbal roost
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who are they playing next?

supple prism
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london

verbal roost
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aww ok

supple prism
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The funniest thing though, SHD has no wins last season but still had a fanbase, practically everyone wanted SHD to win at least one. But no one gives a shit about Justice.

novel warren
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eh justice might get a fan base soon if they keep it up

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by keeping it up i mean losing

trim shadow
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Wizard is the fan base

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Since he made nyxl who they are

hidden vault
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Or val?

gaunt acorn
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@trim shadow that's not close to true

trim shadow
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Wizard was one the reasons

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Jjonak Mano Wizard and the other coaches

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Scratch mano i ment pine

gaunt acorn
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you know the head coach of nyxl was (and still is) pavane

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clearly wizardhyeong's absence hasn't negatively affected nyxl

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and washington's coaching looks abysmal

trim shadow
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Well duh cause nyxl retains the original roster

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So there synergy is probably at the max

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Even if pavane and wizard left nyxl would still be on top

gaunt acorn
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you're the one who made the point that wizardhyeong made nyxl who they were

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that's simply not at all true

trim shadow
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Nyxl have a world classs support line

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Mano whos underrated

gaunt acorn
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what is your point

trim shadow
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And then pine

gaunt acorn
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why are you putting pine in a class of his own

trim shadow
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The individual skill on nyxl is why nyxl is top dog

sullen berry
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Your rapper name: add Lil' next to the last thing you ate

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Lil' Justice Gravs

gaunt acorn
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wizardhyeong was good at conning people into believing he was responsible for nyxl's success

sullen berry
gaunt acorn
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and he managed to convince washington of this too, landing himself and janus big salaries

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now washington looks horribly coached and confused

sullen berry
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That's epic

trim shadow
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False

sullen berry
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Washington Justice cannot be more further from reality

queen drift
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✋ one of the fools convinced

trim shadow
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Washington has pushed teams to the wire in all there matches

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The justice just cant Finish a series

gaunt acorn
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"typical genius"

trim shadow
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cough hangzhou

gaunt acorn
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@trim shadow are you serious

trim shadow
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cough valiant

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cough shanghai

gaunt acorn
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you're trying to say washington is a good team that simply can't manage to finish a series?

queen drift
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thats 3 teams..

gaunt acorn
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this is the worst take i've yet seen, i'm sorry

queen drift
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2 of which have the longest loss streaks in owl

sullen berry
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Ado cannot carry without a decent team, Stratus for Gido did not show any significant redeeming features, and Wizard?

queen drift
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and hangzhou who everyone says is wildly inconsistent

trim shadow
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What im saying is

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washington has the pieces

sullen berry
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His personality can still make it out just fine

gaunt acorn
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..no

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they really really do not, man

queen drift
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washington has some* pieces

trim shadow
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Wizard brought the main tank from nyxl over

sullen berry
queen drift
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like one

trim shadow
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If washington had a weakness its cory

queen drift
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he bought xl's backup tank

trim shadow
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Im speaking on other metas

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Not goats

sullen berry
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Two, if you're being overconfident

trim shadow
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Corey and ado

queen drift
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i'd say ado is solid but ridiculously unlucky

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corey i dont think so

trim shadow
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I never believed in corey tbh

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Janus needs to break out

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Same with fahzix

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If i was washington i would be asking for trades instead of signing new faces from contenders

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They blew most of there money signing coaches

gaunt acorn
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signing overrated coaches who can't deliver

trim shadow
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Didnt shangahi have to many coaches last year widowlol

gaunt acorn
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are you thinking of seoul

trim shadow
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Someone had like 6-7 coaches last year

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And fired almost all of them

hidden vault
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It was seoul

upper niche
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Interesting that despite GLA having no more matches to play and htem currently sitting in 13th, my ladder predictor has them moving up from 13 to 9th even thought they don't play any more matches.

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There's two reasons this is possible: 1. The OWL websites ladder is actually incorrect - it doesn't display the ladder as per the rules. 2. The teams with matches still to play are expected to lose, which causes their map differential to go down not up.

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For anyone interested, the ladder if it were displayed as per the rules would currently be:

  1. NYE. 2. VAN. 3. TOR (2). 4. PHI. 5. DAL (4). 6. ATL. 7. GZC (8), SFS (8). 9. SEO (10). 10. GLA (13). 11. LDN (7). 12. HOU (11). 13. HZS (15). 14. BOS. 15. SHD (17), PAR (12). 17. CDH. 18. FLA. 19. LAV. 20. WAS. Numbers in brackets are what the OWL site/app displays the positions as.
hidden vault
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Why would GZC be above SFS if they have the same number of map wins

upper niche
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GZC are 3-3, +3 (15-12). SFS are 3-3, +3 (14-11). They should both be equal 7th.

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Tie breaks go to head to head map wins, then match wins.

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Most teams at this early stage of the competition don't have head-to-head results with teams they're tied with, therefore the tiebreak would be a tiebreak match (map).

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(I'd have to go back to the rules, but I think i remember it saying a tiebreak will just be a single map match - don't hold me to that)

supple prism
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Your charge is too high and titans will take top.

upper niche
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That's actual, not predicted.

gilded peak
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I don't think we'll get a tiebreaker thing this stage.

supple prism
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Oh

upper niche
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Re-read what I said - what I posted above is how the standings should look if you take the standings based on the rules. The website calculates a team who has less played matches as above any team that has played more matches than them on the same number of wins.

gilded peak
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Depending how the results go tomorrow.

upper niche
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But the rules say nothing to make allowance for that. The rules are quite clear: The rankings are based on match wins, then map differential, then h2h map score, then h2h match score.
The website will put a team that has 3-2 and -5 above a team with 3-3 and +1 - and that's incorrect.

supple prism
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Doesnt really matter anyway since everyone will play 7 matches by the end

upper niche
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On simple prediction - that is, if the currently higher-placed team is assumed they will beat the lower-placed team 3-1, GZC will finish 9th, and yes, VAN will finish 1st.

supple prism
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Think I have GZC finishing like 11th or something

sullen berry
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Fair

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Considering the only way is up from 4-

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I wouldn't assume the rematch next week is going to go nearly as smooth on control 1st map

supple prism
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At best GZC picking up 1 map

sullen berry
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If they lost 3-1, that keeps them in nil map differential

supple prism
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I believe at least 4-3 with like +4 is needed to be in

sullen berry
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So all they need to do is win

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EZ GuangzhouCharge

supple prism
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Against the titans

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Which they already lost to

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2-3

trim shadow
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The owl app has 1. Nyxl 2. Vancouver 3.toronto 4. Philly 5. Dallas 6. Atlanta 7. London 8. GZC 9.SFS 10. Seoul

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London has 3 maps up on gzc

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And 3 maps up on sfs

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Seoul is +2

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Houston at 11 is -1

sullen berry
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Vancouver could also face the 8th seeded team

queen drift
visual glen
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0-7 pog

hidden vault
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At this point if I'm custa I would 100% levae LaV lol

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Get Verbo back

queen drift
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Same

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But not verbo

hidden vault
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Who would be a good lucio?

fallen cloak
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shd was london next who gon win

balmy wolf
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Imagine if LAV got FunnyAstro

fallen cloak
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london is a shit goats team

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but shd is quite shit overall

hidden vault
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Shd has ddinv

fallen cloak
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london has..

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koreans

forest raven
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London has the highest skill ceiling in the world

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When they're 100% no one can beat them

queen drift
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I’d say NYXL at 100% would beat London at 100

gaunt acorn
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don't let that distract you from the fact that vancouver stands a good chance of finishing #1 in stage 1

queen drift
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eat my ass dray

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vancouver smell

gaunt acorn
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they only need 1 win

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if i'm not mistaken

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assuming it's a 3-1 or 4-0

queen drift
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cant they win one and lose one and be second

gaunt acorn
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yeah i mean for map diff

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they need to win both games for spot

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but the 2nd game map wins doesn't matter

queen drift
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they need 3, so unless they go 3-1 3-2..?

gaunt acorn
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ok well yeah

queen drift
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or 2-1

gaunt acorn
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vancouver hasn't even tied yet

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luckily

queen drift
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its more likely they'll get 1st yeah but its still a possibility theyll get fucked on maps

gaunt acorn
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feelsgoodman to be the opposite of a bandwagoner

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home team + roster i've repped for years

queen drift
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roster ive repped for years too in lw

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not home team but cmon my home team would be london

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that would really be bandwagoning

gaunt acorn
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more like desperately trying to jump off the wagon

queen drift
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atl im a fan of bc of sephy and dafran

gaunt acorn
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personally i just wasn't expecting vancouver to be.. at the top

queen drift
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yeah same

gaunt acorn
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i was okay if they'd be top 10

queen drift
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i think a lot of it is meta th

gaunt acorn
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bit surreal potentially being the #1 team in the league

queen drift
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tho *

gaunt acorn
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as an expansion team

queen drift
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expansion teams in general

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have done really well

gaunt acorn
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idk it's not like runaway were goats slaves

queen drift
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who are top 6 right now

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its like 3-3 isnt it

gaunt acorn
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they have more dive experience than some s1 owl teams

queen drift
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nye van atl

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phil

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idk other 2

gaunt acorn
queen drift
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yea so 3-3

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thats pretty impressive

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i think that if goats wasnt the meta right now bumper would be getting punished a lot more by the more veteran teams

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that said what veteran teams have they even played

gaunt acorn
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idk i think runaway has proven to be strong in all kinds of metas

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i don't get the "they can only play goats" meme

queen drift
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i dont think they can only play goats

gaunt acorn
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no, i know

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but you think they'll be weaker when it's gone

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i think haksal/stitch are a very capable dps duo

queen drift
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i think it depends on what the new meta is

forest raven
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I don't remember Stitch's tracer ever being a stand out

gaunt acorn
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and bumper's aggression + jjanu's peel can work in other comps

queen drift
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if bumper can go aggro and be fine, they'll keep it up

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if its like.. double sniper? or a pick comp? i think bumper aggro will make it a lot harder for them

gaunt acorn
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@forest raven he popped as mccree

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i'll give him a chance to prove himself

forest raven
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Ye he can play mccree and widow well

queen drift
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who was runaways tracer

forest raven
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Stitch

queen drift
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oh

gaunt acorn
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it's not like snillo or other tracer players were super well-known before their debut in owl

queen drift
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id say they were

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snillo was wrecking in contenders iirc

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sbb obviously well known

gaunt acorn
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striker?

queen drift
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soon, danteh, sinatraa?

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thats boston tho

gaunt acorn
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striker would be the best comparison

queen drift
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kinda their thing

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surefour might be better

gaunt acorn
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keeping top korean talent

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"we don't do that here"

forest raven
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Striker was on ROX Orcas before joining Boston

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Not exactly well known

queen drift
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yes but he wasnt well known as a top tier tracer player

forest raven
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ROX Orcas was garbo

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Did nothing for like 3 seasons of apex

queen drift
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i think its 50/50 on vancouver keeping up their success if the meta changes

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all based on bumper jjanu

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their dps are good but i dont think they're good enough to excel in a dps meta

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which you have to be to compete in top 4

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you had profit/birdring, carpe/meatshield, sbb/libero

forest raven
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Calling eqo a meatshield

queen drift
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i dont know for sure but i dont think stitch and haksal(?) can compete w that

forest raven
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cmonbruh

queen drift
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cuz i couldnt decide whether to put snillo carpe or sdb lul

forest raven
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Snillo's on FU as a 2 way now IIRC

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And sdb is on Paris

queen drift
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yeah i was talking about season 1

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"you had x x x"

gaunt acorn
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i think haksal/stitch can compete

forest raven
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Haksal's genji is nutty

gaunt acorn
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can't wait for next season

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haksal vs whoru

queen drift
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whoru 18 next season?

gaunt acorn
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yes

queen drift
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pog

gaunt acorn
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alarm too iirc

queen drift
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does philly or seoul get first bids on whoru?

gaunt acorn
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seoul has no claim

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he's under contract by philly

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seoul released him before s1 began

karmic grotto
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fusion its gonna be

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Carpe + Whoru

gaunt acorn
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fusion may not keep him

queen drift
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oof i didnt know they released him

forest raven
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When does na1st turn 18

gaunt acorn
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i think they'll sell him for $$$

queen drift
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eqo is whoru level or better imo

gaunt acorn
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on his birthday i think

forest raven
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Fuck you

hidden vault
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Why don't Gen.G get him back

gaunt acorn
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because that costs money

queen drift
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that would be $$$

gaunt acorn
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presumably a lot of money

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almost certain philly will sell him and use the money to sign a new main tank

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before s3 begins

queen drift
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who do you think

gaunt acorn
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no clue

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either a free agent (ala fissure) or someone else.. maybe fate will leave valiant or something

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sado was underwhelming i'm sure they've realized

queen drift
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yeah

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sado would have been fine if he wasnt so hyped up

gaunt acorn
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black miro

queen drift
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obviously hes not great but hes not like .. bad

gaunt acorn
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he's holding them back i feel

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philly with a great mt would put them consistently top 4

hidden vault
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And fragi is a better pick?

queen drift
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whats their lineup rn

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carpe eqo sado poko boombox and who

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neptuno?

gaunt acorn
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yes

hidden vault
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Yes

queen drift
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mmmh

gaunt acorn
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CrabPls botba is gone CrabPls

queen drift
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boombox could be improved too

gaunt acorn
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i think boombox is good

queen drift
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hes good but i dont think he fits

forest raven
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Boombox is one of the best parts of fusion

gaunt acorn
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^

hidden vault
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Their issue seems to be their tank line

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Poko and fragi/sado

forest raven
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In terms of effectiveness it goes Carpe > Boom > Neptuno imo

queen drift
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i guess because their tank line is bad their support line looks worse

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its insane how good carpe is

hidden vault
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And eqo

queen drift
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eqo is really good but he isnt near as good as carpe

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carpe is like sayaplayer

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just wins games (in sayas case wins fights loses games)

gaunt acorn
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i think poko is good he just doesn't synergize that well with sado

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don't underestimate him

hidden vault
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then why not sub for fragi?

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is fragi really that bad?

gaunt acorn
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he's worse than sado

outer zenith
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Fragi's main problem on Rein is also his greatest strength: he's incredibly aggressive. Now that isn't necessarily a bad thing on it's own, but that take resources, and the Fusion never seemed ready to support that playstyle.

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When Sado came on, not only did he mesh better with the team on Rein, he also had a better Winston, something that Fragi noticably struggled with throughout Season 1.

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That said, personally, I really like Fragi and he's one of the reasons I gravitated so heavily towards the Fusion at the start of OWL.

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He always came across as the heart of the team, on and off stage. Fragi was also the face in many aspects, usually doing interviews post game.

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Sad to see him benched. Hopefully he makes a comeback.

hidden vault
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Wasn't fragi the one who brought china to game 5 in wc?

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By sheer tank plays?

signal pulsar
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aggro reins are good and they can pull him back if he restrains himself a little more

hidden vault
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I quote someone here

night tusk
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Ado is 0 - 35 FeelsBadMan

hidden vault
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Not worse then diya

fathom acorn
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Ya know

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People call goats repetitive

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But every freshnuts/noobhunter vid is exactly the same

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It’s always like 70% ana sleeps, boops, and widow headshots

royal flume
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guys how was the spark game

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cause i missed it

night tusk
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Diya = 43 losing streak. will Ado break it ?

wintry kraken
night tusk
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First time I saw jjonak's tweet I think he just mean he did play shit first round and his english was bad written lol

wintry kraken
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@night tusk sure, but read the rest, Libero's one too

night tusk
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I mentioned first time I readed this tweet :p

lusty light
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Ando are you like on this server 24/7

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whenever im here you are as well

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and i just realized your last message was 9 43 never mind

night tusk
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Im new to discord and only lnow this server

royal flume
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rip

balmy wolf
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Really excited for shock vs paris last game for them so they have too perform well while paris has 2 more too go y'all think paris will go all out??

royal flume
#

na i think paris are going to be beaten

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3-0

night tusk
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Maybe 4-0

sharp kindle
#

Yeah I think shock is gonna beat Paris

night tusk
#

Shock london and ofcourse titan

balmy wolf
#

I hope shock loses some maps so seoul will have a better shot of making their first playoff

night tusk
#

It would be amazing if today hunters somehow win from titans

balmy wolf
#

Is it Titans last game??

night tusk
#

Seoul have no chance I believe even if they 4-0 houston

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Idk did not watch next week matchups

balmy wolf
#

London you mean

night tusk
#

Ow I was thinking about reign lol ye i mean london

balmy wolf
#

I am very excited for that match historical seoul never was good against gc busan the core of that team but again they have fissure now and he never lost a game against them

night tusk
#

But I want seoul to be london because lunatichai/seoul never won from londob/gc busan

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Yea

balmy wolf
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Lol

night tusk
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Beat*

balmy wolf
#

I remember stage 1 where londen caused seoul to lose stage playoffs because of them 4-0 ing them

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And stage 2 same thing

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Seoul always did struggle against other full korean teams

night tusk
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Fits on zarya is better so I hope the roster of yesterday will be their main roster

balmy wolf
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Nah they played against arguably the worst team in the league so it doesn't prove mucj

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And Washington probably prepared for a agressive fissure line up

night tusk
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ye but high charged, high ground use

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but in S1 seoul did play B team against shanghai aswell

balmy wolf
#

He was only high charged because he used his bubble for charge and not to save his teammates which caused marve1 to die a lot

tight crypt
#

Hey

north beacon
#

Man, how did Paris’s schedule end up this way?

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Last 3 days of the stage they have a game

balmy wolf
#

oof to shadowburn

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it must have been lottery

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they played only 3 games in 3 weeks so it must have been that

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who knows what other teams down the line will have that

night tusk
#

guys im a plat genji main new to OWL, i'm ready to learn more about my hero

mint turtle
#

Theres 0 genji play in owl atm

night tusk
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well im learning other dps aswell besides sombra, I can learn from this atleast.. I heard pine is good and babybay. Hyped to see him play today

supple prism
#

there was some

azure harbor
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GWseremePeepoThinkI wonder - where Soe and other casters get their clothes? I think they have different one every time

night tusk
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IRL C9

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Shang9

tired mango
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I've heard during S1 they had professionals purchasing and picking out their outfits for their personas in front of the camera, each caster getting their own type of clothing

azure harbor
#

🤔 interesting, thx

night tusk
#

!schedule

somber yewBOT
#
Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 1 Week 4
undefined PAR vs SFS <:SFS:438251672712642571>

Mar 10th 15:00 EDT (in 6 minutes)

<:LDN:438251672876351489> LDN vs SHD <:SHD:438251672599527437>

Mar 10th 16:30 EDT (in 2 hours)

<:FLA:438251672779882506> FLA vs BOS <:BOS:438251672633081857>

Mar 10th 18:00 EDT (in 3 hours)

undefined VAN vs CDH undefined

Mar 10th 19:30 EDT (in 5 hours)

primal ibex
#

zz

night tusk
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Shock 4-0, Boston 4-0, LDN 4-0, Titans 4-0,

solar trout
#

Paris, SHD(PLS), Boston, Titans
SFS Can put up a good fight, but I trust paris has this.
LDN/SHD will be a fun one.
Titans has done so good this season I highly doubt they'll lose.
And florida...yikes

night tusk
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U would love if hunters somehow win

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but no way 😦

limber pine
#

------------------------------------------

Stage 1 - Week 4 of the Overwatch League is live in 5 minutes!

DAY 4 MATCHES

12:00 PM PST: ParisEternal Paris Eternal vs San Francisco Shock SanFranciscoShock
1:30 PM PST: LondonSpitfire London Spitfire vs Shanghai Dragons ShanghaiDragons
3:00 PM PST: FloridaMayhem Florida Mayhem vs Boston Uprising BostonUprising
4:30 PM PST: VancouverTitans Vancouver Titans vs Chengdu Hunters ChengduHunters

Watch live at:
🇬🇧 https://www.twitch.tv/overwatchleague

Full schedule:
🗓 https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/schedule

night tusk
#

ur a mod bapisteguy ?

solar trout
#

admin actually

night tusk
#

can he update the bot ?

balmy wolf
#

Holy shit this new watchpoint music is dope

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Turn it uppppp

trim shadow
#

Im going for

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Sfs Shanghai boston

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Theres only three games today so

night tusk
#

shanghai nahh

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london evolved

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1eu = 5eu if you bet on shanghai

trim shadow
#

Shanghai has underdog status

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And thats plus 10 in performance

night tusk
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hunters = 7eu

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lol

spring heath
#

gut afternoon ladies and gentlemen

balmy wolf
#

good afternoon to you too

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here's to boston getting a win today

#

pogu]

trim shadow
#

Hangzhou being eliminated zendisappointed

balmy wolf
#

xD

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All pink skin owners on suicide watch

azure harbor
#

Shadowburn? Long time no see

spring heath
#

heres to boston

trim shadow
#

Soon is getting hard benched

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What did he do?

spring heath
#

yeah actually tho

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??

trim shadow
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Ik he cucked it against vancouver

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But shadowburning (love him) but hes no better widowlol

solid axle
#

why dont they put in architect

trim shadow
#

5 words

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T r a s h

solid axle
#

better brig than rascal i thought

azure harbor
#

zaryalul NA team

trim shadow
#

Super widowlol

balmy wolf
#

rIgGeD

spring heath
#

oh best boy

balmy wolf
#

Benbest asking on tips how to play Wiston

spring heath
#

lmao

azure harbor
solar trout
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👍

mint flower
#

paris looks like dogshit

trim shadow
#

Ooo look at that miscommunication

mint flower
#

paris best 3-3 team in the leaguezaryalul

azure harbor
trim shadow
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Paris + washington = choke city

tardy fog
#

Paris went from top 3 in two weeks to dogshit

spring heath
#

benbests face

balmy wolf
#

Benbest is probably the better Rein but Super is the better Winston

tardy fog
#

How the pendulum swings

balmy wolf
#

Benbest is an actual chad

spring heath
#

ya omg

balmy wolf
#

Not like GigaChad Fusions

solar trout
#

When they explain obvious and basic game mechanics

balmy wolf
#

Overwatch isn't exactly a spectator-friendly esport, and many people might be watching for the first time

solar trout
#

Zarya can be difficult to understand. A capture point is not.

mint flower
#

kruise with his fat feeds

balmy wolf
#

Lucio dying near the end of the fight isn't really that severe

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Lucio is basically a speed bot in GOATS

mint flower
#

im talking in general

balmy wolf
#

K R U I S E I S A F E E D E R

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ffs kruise

mint flower
#

kruise first place in deaths on lucio

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P O G

azure harbor
mint flower
#

finnsi is surprisingly good

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his bombs aren't bad

azure harbor
#

zaryalul it was bad

mint flower
#

what do y'alls think of viol2t

spring heath
#

remember when jake explained projectiles

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lulw

cursive talon
#

dying with defensive ultimates come on Paris.

tardy fog
#

daily reminder sideshow analyst is not good

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Watching his stream yesterday and today

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missing too many important details

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wish wolf/achillos or even reinforce had a stream instead

mint flower
#

i feel like sideshows stream is like an owl meme review

tardy fog
#

Yeah but people are actually saying he's good at it

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which is very different from enjoying a meme stream

azure harbor
#

smug OWL league need way more memes

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can't have cybersport without it

mint flower
#

yeah the amount of owl memes feels lacking

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sdb zarya oof

balmy wolf
#

is there official callouts for paris yet

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I cant find any

supple prism
#

what do you mean?

balmy wolf
#

like this

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but for paris

#

Damn paris is a mess

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Shock is looking top tier though

supple prism
#

oh, thought you meant the team

balmy wolf
#

oh right paris is playing

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time to see their fate

azure harbor
balmy wolf
#

San fransisco Sinatraa

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should be the team name

tardy fog
#

Eh, the only real top tier team is NYXL and maybe Vancouver

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Everyone else is mid-tier

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besides Justice, who are bottom.

balmy wolf
#

I want to like vancouver

cursive talon
#

@tardy fog bottom tier exists too.

balmy wolf
#

I live close to them

#

but those colors

tardy fog
#

@cursive talon please read

cursive talon
#

@tardy fog add Valiant too.

tardy fog
#

Valiant have the hardest schedule of any team this stage

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and pulled map 5 against NYXL

cursive talon
#

hehe yeah.

tardy fog
#

something no one else has done

supple prism
#

i dont think they do

tardy fog
#

Valiant are probably mid-tier

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just choking in bad fights

#

but map 5 against NYXL is no slouch

balmy wolf
#

I think gladiators has a chance for top tier too

cursive talon
#

do you think this will affect their morale.

spring heath
#

they lost to spark

balmy wolf
#

Valiant morale is probably at an all time low

spring heath
#

week one

night tusk
#

EU is best goats lol

spring heath
#

and philly and outlaws

#

which they should have won

#

low mid tier at best

magic birch
#

EUROPEAN SUPER TEAM

#

SUPER TEAM

tardy fog
#

Everyone, besides the 4~ obvious top/bottom teams have basically played RPS at losing and winning to each other

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I.e, the exact same thing as Season 1

#

Mid-tier is a huge conglomerate of everyone besides those 4.

azure harbor
#

zaryalul looks like 4-0

spring heath
#

??

#

obviously most teams are mid tier

#

im just saying

#

they are really really bad

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mid tier

tardy fog
#

Not really, in other esports like CSGO and Dota there are clear Top/High/Mid/Low/Bottom teams

#

In OWL everyone in mid-tier just randomly plays badly and loses randomly all the time

spring heath
#

it's not random

tardy fog
#

So it's a lot closer than other teams

spring heath
#

they have engagement issues

tardy fog
#

They have plenty of issues

spring heath
#

lack consistent follow thru and damage

#

worse issues than spark

#

who is low mid tier

balmy wolf
#

Paris is tilted

night tusk
#

super wants to show benbest what he can lol

spring heath
#

lmao benbest is just trying to learn

night tusk
#

if OWWC started this week and OWL cancelled. who would you put in team USA ?

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I would put super instead of muma lol

tardy fog
#

Super is not better than muma

#

Not even close lmao

night tusk
#

on rein

#

he is

spring heath
#

depends on who is off tank

#

id do space muma

tardy fog
#

Super has not proven his rein in any meaningful way against the actual top tier tanks

#

Beating benbest is not something you brag about imo

#

People here are so reactionary

spring heath
#

who would you choose off ando

night tusk
#

seagull

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lol jk

spring heath
#

lul

tardy fog
#

I don't think d.va role counts as offtank anymore

#

Now it's just the pure d.va role

#

she's in literally every map every game

night tusk
#

I dont think zarya is not counted as off tank anymore

balmy wolf
#

a bit skood

night tusk
#

but dps

tardy fog
#

dps is brig tho

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and sombra

night tusk
#

team usa would be: super - sleepy - hydration - nevix - space - sinatraa

spring heath
#

they're so busy keeping benny alive

night tusk
#

i dont mean nevix

spring heath
#

gotta keep kruise alive too lmao

night tusk
#

i mean .. the main support of usa

spring heath
#

kruise kills himself

night tusk
#

shock *

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lol

spring heath
#

oooo yup

tardy fog
#

people actually thinking super is good lmao

spring heath
#

id be down for that

night tusk
#

tean korea you can just put NYXL

spring heath
#

lmao

night tusk
#

idk what country dogman is

balmy wolf
#

*pogman 👀

night tusk
#

if OWWC will be this year again I want more than just NYXL, Titans can for example have some players :p

balmy wolf
#

putting in just nyxl would be better tho since they already have synergy

spring heath
#

lmao

#

these stats

night tusk
#

but thats not fun 😛

vestal mortar
#

oof

azure harbor
night tusk
#

Fury still best off-tank or JJanu ?

tardy fog
#

SDB has only played in the matches where Paris has lost

#

Pretty skewed data

tawny sigil
#

goats... lets get our dps to play tank cause they can track

balmy wolf
#

its pronounced "skood" data

tardy fog
#

🤔

spring heath
#

its pronounced scuffed player

tardy fog
#

Most of SDB zarya time was against vancouver iirc

#

That's gonna be rough on anyone's stats lol

spring heath
#

you like defending the little guy huh

tardy fog
#

I mean, stats have context

#

Soon gets to play against Fuel and Co

#

SDB has to play against Titans and Shock

#

Shit data is shit.

karmic grotto
#

F for Paris

spring heath
#

f

#

gg bai

#

ohhhhhhhhhh

tardy fog
#

But they got the point

#

🤔

spring heath
#

ik

balmy wolf
#

wait they subbed out soon

spring heath
#

i just ate my words

balmy wolf
#

has he been out this whole time

karmic grotto
#

F

tardy fog
#

When Violet died shock lost the point

night tusk
#

EATEN

spring heath
#

ffffff

karmic grotto
#

predictable

bold pier
#

shadowbot

night tusk
#

I know shadowburn as genji god, ow he is playing? ready to learn my genji play

magic birch
#

hes zarya

night tusk
rapid locust
#

wat

balmy wolf
#

xD

night tusk
#

lol

#

they actually did it

balmy wolf
#

why is POV always like 10 seconds ahead of main stream

spring heath
#

no one is happy about it

#

lmao

vestal mortar
#

I can't even

azure harbor
cursive talon
#

holy shit. Using mouse with left hand.

night tusk
#

I don't even think they will take this one

minor flame
#

paris getting 4-0ed

#

imagine my shock

night tusk
#

Paris will lose lol

minor flame
#

literally

spring heath
#

left hand

#

who

cursive talon
#

Even if shock wins it is unlikely that they will make playoffs right?

minor flame
#

being left handed in overwatch is like being tapping buttons with your feet

#

if shock wins this

#

its likely they will be in playoffs

night tusk
#

if london lose ?

minor flame
#

GZC cant get in there

cursive talon
#

hmm against houston?

minor flame
#

they have Titans

#

unless GZC surprises me

#

and gets a good fight in

night tusk
#

hunters

balmy wolf
#

I use foot pedals for playing DVA

minor flame
#

Paris obviously cant get in

balmy wolf
#

makes me feel like im in a spaceship

minor flame
#

LAG isnt

night tusk
#

I use controller to play main tank

minor flame
#

Seoul for suren ot

spring heath
#

for matrix?

#

or boosters

minor flame
#

well

#

actually Seoul v London

#

could be interesting

balmy wolf
#

matrix and boost

minor flame
#

London staying and Seoul going in depends on Shanghai

cursive talon
#

Paris could. They just needed to win both games. London will most likely win shanghai.

spring heath
#

thats so cool

#

you should wear a helmet

#

!!

minor flame
#

London will most likely win Shanghai

nova wadi
#

nice sinatraa :)

minor flame
#

so Seoul v London

#

decides which one goes in

night tusk
#

there is a dva headset

rapid locust
#

what happened to sinatra's hit marker?

spring heath
#

ohhhhh yeah even better

minor flame
#

if Seoul wins they simply yoink playoffs from London, if London wins they stay in playoffs

#

Houston has Atlanta

nova wadi
#

super LOL

minor flame
#

which even with Atlants shitty performance last week

#

I dont think theyll win

night tusk
#

if seoul somehow gets their first win against london/gcbusan lol

minor flame
#

if Seoul pulls out Marve1 with Jesce

#

they might have a better chance

#

than pulling out Fissure

spring heath
#

yeah actually tho why did atlanta drop the ball

minor flame
#

they were fucking shit

#

and LAG really woke up

#

combination of both

balmy wolf
#

San fransisco about to win

cursive talon
#

or if Titans lose on purpose to deny Shock. Savage.

night tusk
#

nah LAG just did good

minor flame
#

LAG did really good this week but you could see ATL having terrible mistakes

#

mostly positioning

mint flower
#

Atlanta was ranked a little high

spring heath
#

watch paris clutch

minor flame
#

ATL before LAG match was a top 5 team

spring heath
mint flower
#

we were like 2 weeks in

#

and atlanta was ranked a top 5 team

minor flame
#

ATL might be iffy now depending on their performance from now

#

because being 4-0ed by LAG

#

and dominated

balmy wolf
#

why didnt they do a dry push

minor flame
#

is a wew

balmy wolf
#

xD

#

here we go

spring heath
#

ooof

balmy wolf
#

Dva pog

minor flame
#

oh yeah

#

Dallas exists

#

I dont know if theyll succeed

spring heath
#

eternally disappointing

minor flame
#

theyll most likely stay in playoffs but

magic birch
#

i just made this meme

minor flame
#

theyll probably lose

balmy wolf
#

The saddest french song just played

mint flower
#

P A R I S I S D O G S H I T

spring heath
#

doggu shitto

magic birch
#

of hitler entering paris but instead its sanfranciso shock entering paris

minor flame
#

what?

karmic grotto
mint flower
#

bastion?

balmy wolf
#

Bastion is top tier hero

minor flame
#

Bastion HLC point A is not uncommon

mint flower
#

high skill cap

#

just shoot their heads 4Head

minor flame
#

woah

nova wadi
#

SHADOWBURN GENJI

night tusk
minor flame
#

now this is a counter comp

mint flower
#

o fuck yes

magic birch
#

GET BLADE IN 50 SECONDS

mint flower
#

this is the shit

vestal mortar
#

WOOOOOO

spring heath
#

PLS

azure harbor
#

zaryalul not gotas vs goats

#

what is it

balmy wolf
#

If you have good aim you dont even need to turret form with bastion

night tusk
#

BlessRNG

#

NO

north beacon
#

Let’s see how long he stays on genju

spring heath
#

lmao

minor flame
#

wow that fucking trap

spring heath
#

ofc

nova wadi
#

they completely ignored bastion?

minor flame
#

no

azure harbor
minor flame
#

Bastion drew

#

then Winston got shredded

#

Genji got on a trap

night tusk
#

they did not prepared for this lol

nova wadi
#

they did tho

mint flower
#

oof paris

minor flame
#

Sombra was to distract the team

rapid locust
#

rip

minor flame
#

by backcapping

nova wadi
#

bastion shot at the tanks that was the moment they shouldve known where bastion was

minor flame
#

so Bastion went to point

rapid locust
#

well at least it was quick

minor flame
#

with healer support

balmy wolf
#

zaryalul imagine loosing to a s1 defense strat

minor flame
#

They didnt ignore the Bastion its more like they literally had no way to get to him with the push they did

north beacon
#

lol way to put him on the spot “aaand he dies with 24% on dragon blade”

minor flame
#

Rascal just predicted that

#

big brain style

nova wadi
#

eh

cursive talon
#

Shield on one side. Bastion on the other. He switched sides when paris went to switch. Jebaited.

night tusk
#

I bet for shanghai lol, rip my money

balmy wolf
#

lol

north beacon
#

@night tusk I’ve decided to stop investing any emotions into SHD

nova wadi
#

interesting hold

north beacon
#

It only ends in pain

minor flame
#

how aggressive

#

gg

mint flower
#

welp

minor flame
#

Paris will be a top team pepega

cursive talon
#

welp. No playoffs for Paris.

mint flower
#

Paris 2-3 oof

minor flame
#

look how that turned out

mint flower
#

I hope they fall lower than SHD

night tusk
#

if spend 10$ but if shanghai wins I get 60$ lol I think once for fun idc if I lose

balmy wolf
#

Lol

#

what was that xD

nova wadi
#

huge comms

minor flame
#

FIGHT ING

north beacon
#

3 2 1 MAZEL TOV

cursive talon
#

3...2...1....????, lets go guys

balmy wolf
#

I had to clear my throat just listening to that

minor flame
#

3 2 1 FIGHTING

mint flower
#

I W A N N A S E E S H A N G H A I

cursive talon
#

Imagine cussing in comms so they never show your comm strats.

balmy wolf
#

Free win for London coming up

mint flower
#

@cursive talon lmao

#

@balmy wolf probably

#

youngjins gonna c9 in game and in real life

idle beacon
#

whats wrong with soon?

#

why isn't he playin?

#

also benched cuz of dps only?

supple prism
#

i guess they think shadow is a bit better but really neither are looking great

idle beacon
#

sdb is or atleast WAS a good zarya

mint flower
#

HEY KYKY
PARIS HERE
YOU NEED TO GET THE FUCK OUT

balmy wolf
#

not really the meta for soon to begin with

#

@mint flower youngjin never gonna live that c9 down

minor flame
#

i dont get how people though Paris was gonna be top goats team

mint flower
#

yeah thats gonna haunt his career

spring heath
#

i miss youngjin

#

show me youngjin

idle beacon
#

what's the other french dude's name again

minor flame
#

I feel like Michelle Volskaya C9 was probably even worse than Youngjin C9

idle beacon
#

unkoe ?

minor flame
#

yes

idle beacon
#

why isn't he in eternal

minor flame
#

because hes in fuel?

#

and hes actually good?

idle beacon
#

i know he's good .. but i mean .. it's PARIS Eternal

minor flame
#

they dont give a shit

idle beacon
#

fuck fuel

minor flame
#

lmao

mint flower
#

paris should trade for akm and unkoe
although akm soon and sdb would all have overlapping hero pools

idle beacon
#

i've stoppe rootin for fuel since last stage4

minor flame
#

why last stage 4?

#

that was when they were

mint flower
#

I hate the fuel

minor flame
#

actually good

mint flower
#

cuz they keep butt raping my dragons

idle beacon
#

well for you .. since last season. maybe you understand that 😄

nova wadi
#

ah yes i could really see that

idle beacon
#

i had hope in them .. they didn't get anything done

minor flame
#

i get fuel was fucking bad season 1

idle beacon
#

fuck'em

minor flame
#

but why stop supporting em at stage 4?

#

that was literally in their peak

#

they almost beat nyxl

#

in fucking playoffs

idle beacon
#

seagull gone

spring heath
#

another 3-1?

minor flame
#

lmao

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dumbass fans

idle beacon
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mickie gone (right?)

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no

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hes just benched

mint flower
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thats dumb tho

idle beacon
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tammo ?

minor flame
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taimou benched i think

idle beacon
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or whatever that fat finns name is

mint flower
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mickie should be 100% starting over zach

minor flame
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zach is prob a better flex but for the dedicated 3-3 maps

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yeah mickie should be given a chance at this point

idle beacon
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tbh, i was rootin for fuel cuz it was more than 50% of iHulk's last team.

mint flower
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Taimou*

minor flame
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taimou?

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isnt he a widow player lol

mint flower
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yeah

spring heath
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bring pine back

mint flower
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taimou on winston last year lul

minor flame
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there are barely any maps where its good dedicated for widow

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in this meta

spring heath
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next meta lets go

minor flame
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throughout the course of the map

spring heath
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i cant wait for pine plays again

mint flower
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next meta=next season lul

minor flame
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next meta might dual snipers or hammond 3 dps dive

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and dual snipers will fucking suck

spring heath
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ya tru :_(

mint flower
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lez get a dps meta

minor flame
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itll probably be more worse than dive and goats

mint flower
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6 dps ftw

spring heath
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yeah it will be trash lmao

minor flame
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dps meta RIP rein

spring heath
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but i miss the pine plays

nova wadi
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weve already seen dual sniper meta it was ass

minor flame
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dual sniper meta was just hanzo buff dive

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and it was fucking trash

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i get why people dont like watching goats but i dont get why they wanna watch double sniper

mint flower
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ill take anything over goats

nova wadi
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[doubt]

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ok dumbass heres the moth meta

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pepega

mint flower
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at this point goats is driving me insane

minor flame
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why are you supporting Toronto then

spring heath
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good dive and widow plays

nova wadi
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goats has only been a thing for like 2 seasons right LOL

supple prism
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i dont think it is that bad but change is always nice and welcome

spring heath
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that's all i want

minor flame
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Toronto is literally th epitome of bland goats

nova wadi
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dive took fucking years