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until hitscan meta
I really hate Soe
he literally didn't play
surefour's been good for a while
oh you mean
i didnt play for two seasons
from solo queue
uh he sucks tho
so maybe he was burnt out
so
guys only human
well im not gonna say anything about him being benched because
Decay is definitely better in this meta but
I'm pretty confident that surefour will be just fine lol
surefour makes me sourfour
Surefour is still one of the best dps overall
if he still wants to play on the main roster on Glads, he has more than enough talent for it
yep
hes among the most versatile players
literally an NA libero
hard dis
plays so much different stuff
agree
2 seasons doesn't make him chopped liver
so he's rusty in the current meta, big deal? just let him come back when he's back in form and ready again
Look at seagull
y aik
2 seasons of solo queue isn't that big a deal it just shows he's burnt out
Gladiators management made a good choice
Well he will most likely during the meta change
After the next patch
good shit
i think Glads are lookin like a top 4 team again
yea
but its too late
same
they've got their stuff together and can play some fun overwatch
any meta they play in when they play well, they're one of the best teams to watch lol
washed up means that you're still playing a ton but you just arent good
surefour hasn't played the game in solo queue as much
so i dont consider him washed up lol
surefour was pro in other games before OW also
i just consider him rusty and not in the favour of the meta
ik
once the meta turns around to something thats more 2/2/2 he'll be back and strong
hydration and him will share that spot tho
Birdring too
Birdring id say is even worse
birdring is slump af
He’s barely able to play this meta
Birdring is one of the best widows
lmao
But
git it together
Why play Birdring in this meta when you have Guard?
That means nothing when widow is unplayable
Guard is one of the best Sombras in the league tbh
carpe better

Birdring saw the patchnotes and the nerfs to goats and he decided not to die yet
o guard????
Guard is amazing
Guard is great
yea I think spitfire will be fine with him
He’s probably better then danteh
^ id agree with this
orly
because every team spitfire plays against
they hardfocus guard when hes on sombra
like
guard is better sombra call it?
disgustingly hard focus
because he's singlehandedly won them so many fights with good hacks and picks
The spark spawn camp
but danteh is clutch emp af
All the bits for you Matty
I mean danteh's always had a really good sombra
but this season the other players have caught up
I saw danteh playing doom with pugs
i think he's a good sombra but he's not the best at it anymore
I wonder if he’ll play in OWL
next hero edward snowden, counters sombra
Roky playing the bongos better be one
When will pachimari be a hero
agree
Pachimari is actually the shadow that sombra is chasing
lmao
Soe needs to stay as a host tbh
i dont know why shes on the desk or in half time segments
She's awful
what why
She literally zones out
she is just on watchpoint
During post game shows
shes at half time tho
whole season
i call watchpoint the desk now mb LOL
im js
watchpoint used to be its own show once a week
bro dont hate
i dont watch the new segments anymore
on only gril
eh
bc there are worse
i like her just fine
but i think shes better as an interviewer/host
ok
I don't. She's ugly, obnoxious and doesn't really care half the time
lets see
or get a female analyst like
still would be a better host
UH OH
League has froskurrin o.o
Yeah
ssss
I'm gay tho
idc
monte
She's just unkempt
Why do u hate jayne
asides his dark humor
Oof valiant 0-7
should i watch the vod
I think Jayne is great
Bring the monte-stache again
he adds trash talk to the scene so that spices things up a fair bit lol
Jaybe is good at coaching lol
he sucks more than he thinks
He doesnt have to be a scrim master
Jayne is a literal professional and a great analyst
And provides much more than Soe
Watch jayne explain how to play doomfist
Soe is just fan service
And bad fan service at that
soe
aggro
Jayne Vs Soe for the position Soe holds
Jayne is an actual professional
Soe LITERALLY admitted 30 minutes ago she zoned off mid discussion
Shows how much she cares
clothes for underdog team
busting their balls will make them realize their mistakes, carpe found out the hard way
and jayne isnt afraid to bust balls
lol rip
Thats her
No?
She buys her clothes
uh
Not according to her on twitter
Wardrobe just picks
I wouldve been so mad if houston gave valiant there first win
0-7
wtf with Space?
Washington is probably up next
Its moon and valiant probably have no in game leader
I see Space pop off for Valiant and im thinking
'they have this im gonna go afk and watch later'
@halcyon reef https://twitter.com/Soembie/status/1104242259220983810
@FreckledMcCree Thank you! I bought this one at @UniqloUSA :)
she bought her stuff
Wardrobe picks which could be good in tv
thats it
why do you think she has
She just buys all her crap
blizzard cares very much about their public image and the future of the franchises
they wont take any chances
I think the reason they bought MLG to begin with was to corner the Esports market
ok far step
even on the website it specifically labels them as permanent franchises
But it works, they are building a foundation
unlike CSGO where investors are scared to invest
Aaaanyways, back to league. Tomorrow feels eeeh
https://i.imgur.com/eo2npgE.png
Maybe London and Vancouver
yes that one will be lots of suspense
prediction ameng will get shut down
I think vancouver will win
For sure
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There's many more where she states they choose her outfits too
@AmandaTNStevens Stylist has been given all our measurements and then just went ham getting us all sorts of stuff. Now we just come in and get dressed like puppets. Its glorious
lmao
ok
ya
vote up for jayne but
still don't approve of his leadership skills
@emilyrosemcg That would be the wonderful ladies from @esportsmakeup plus our OWL wardrobe fairy Cyn, who unfortunately doesnt have twitter :) thank you so much ❤
is telling people why what they did was retarded
doesn't have to do with outfit
and they should be ashamed
That's what wardrobe literally does
It's why they're called wardrobe lmao
They buy all their outfits
And make them for them all
it must be really hard dressing the players
Yes
They should add a baptiste mascot that jumps around everywhere on stage
just like in game
actually they should just have mascots for every team, would be hilarous
Not trying to be mean but Soe is literally an e-girl that doesn't pay attention to discussions during watchpoint. Literally she even admitted to zoning out this last one. She did it last night too. She doesn't really care. Anyone could replace her for all I care.
Just someone that actually cares is all i ask for lol
or at least have someone else that does care in addition to Soe
dafran is streaming at least
Idk. I just really dislike Soe as a person. Especially after meeting her in person
We might be seeing some Zen play from Dafran xD
He is streaming right now as Zen and his stream title is im the new jjonak support god
Braindead?
Soe isn't a caster
wolf is a great caster
I'm talking about the watchpoint specifically. The casters can't really keep up with everything cuz It's live. And they do great commentary
Soe isn't a caster????
watchpoint caster
omg
technicality gottem,
bro not tryna undermine
but
stop hating on soe
Mailk is fine, he's literally the one carrying the entire cast
she is not terrible
international womens day biiiiiiih
That was yesterday
Sideshow is lowkey carrying watchpoint
she is still good just not for everything
Yeah the sideshow is infinitely better. She was great as a host
But sucks ass at casting
gg
Yeah and the gadget one too
jjonak and dafran on stream
Yes Dafran is the new jjonak
mcgravy too
Dafran was suppose to be the new jjonak
Then he cracked
If it becomes a dps meta dafran can revieve himself
Thats if he doesnt quit on the reign
And my hopes
Dafran was playing tracer on stream
Yes
I remember seeing dafrans tracking on soldier
But he can easily translate to any hero
I think he’s a good tracer and a good soldier, he wouldn’t be a debtriment to any team
ZArya not Soldier in that msg
But the only hero he EXCELS at is Soldier
His tracer won’t stand up in owl
Sinatraa, SeoMinSoo
carpe could play a perfect zarya if he tried im pretty sure
His tracer in ranked is great, his tracer in selfless was outperformed by sinatraa
If a 16/17 y/o sinatraa can outperform him on tracer in an online team
SBB, Nenne, Profit, will all dumpster him
A perfect zarya...is the same thing as a shot caller
zaryas lead the charge
Like Reins
Ivy played a perfect zarya ge
Game*
And decay kinda did as well
Can we talk about how hangzhou did the same thing seoul did in season 1
Start off strong
FUCKING DISAPEAR halfway through the season
lol
Im honeslty angry with hangzhou
There suppose to be 3rddddddddd
There fucking at the back of the pack
Behind boston and houston of all fucking teams
Excuse houston is great
How does a team with...uk what lets ask the valiant how do you bottle a stage when your predicted to be in the top 5
Houston had a easy scheldue
That sparck win was complete coincidence
Houston is trash tier
the valiant isnt much better
Ya
Ah the Boston non-believer
Seoul has a good chance this season
have them at 7th
ok agree
Fissure wont flop
boston at 8th
boston is 14
Boston isnt over rated at all
ez money never
lmao ya
they lost to shanghai
I just want shadowburn to play
lost to shd when they didnt have their shotcaller
@supple prism people have done the analysis and determined boston would have still lost
it would have been closer but still lost
anyways playoffs will be xl, titans, reign, eternal, shock
Last 3 are debatable
defiant
defiant
defiant hunters spark maybe
eternal?
no, defiant is actual secured
reign shouldn't be on there
def > hunters > spark
they 5-2
the hunters are dog
@hybrid quarry have you watched the league at all?
They are going to be there
defiant over smol ball hunters sry
I've watched the majority of the weeks, which includes this one
then you are just wrong lol
and they've been getting close calls
hunters wont make it
too many
hunters will get stomped by titans tomorrow
They have 2 4-0’s under their belt
Reign has an inconsistency problem but they will absolutely make playoffs
lack of faith is more like it
Masaa’s lucio is incredible
reigns next two games should be very easy for them
Erster is talented
hunters and outlaws
no dafran, no win
reign will absolutely be more careful against their next opponents
bye dafran benched
no dafran no win
its not about choking
who are they going to be thrown against next time?
Did dafran get banned?
dogman is good tho
dogman is fairly inconsistent himself
Dogman has higher highs and lower lows
bad ultimate timing led to some Zenomegaluls
Did the dragons win today?
did they play today?
dragons tomorrow
Tmrw
no
for SHD?
LA dragons
50-50 my bet and hope is 3-2 shd
london 3-1
Shd should be the same as dallas
has london improved?
But they lost
I only saw their first game
Disappointing
Which was horseshit
London's made a few lucky dives
Yeah im a SHD fan and I think theyre screwed
not too optimistic
If london fixed their goats dragons will lose
they did
they have a hard schedule
Diem better zarya?
let Dragons run Sombra again and they'll knock off London because of their players' incapability of running the goat comp properly
I liked dding’s sombra
His phara was fun too
Diems sombra wasnt as impressive but was still fine
I mean, I understand why Geguri was benched, but
she's a great Zarya
switch out someone else
Diem is fine on Zarya, but his gravs are sus
diem is kinda avg
Diem knows what he's doing, but
The issue is that geguri on zarya basically means no flexing
I don't like the dding on dva crap
he's unable to pull a carpe diem or anything
they should strictly run sombra goats
I agree
cuz switching geguri and dding is too much of a hassle
No team should run strictly anything
Nah ^^ makes comps very easily predictable and counter
Sombra is hard but hard doesn’t mean optimal
bench one after another
dragons are in a sense full of onetricks
Sombra in a serious game is probably the hardest hero I’ve played
gamsu one
Doesn’t mean it’s good
Idrc who they play between dding and geguri but plz no guardian
oof
triiiiiick
jesus gamsu yesterday was atrocious
Sombra is a hard counter against a goat comp if played properly
They just have to commit for the round
PUTS DOWN BUBBLE AND THEN JUMPS AT THE BOMB
to dding on dps and geguri on zarya
Yes, she is, but it’s really hard to play as sombra vs goats
nenne
So many spam heroes
ez $
maybe benching diem is the big brain play
goats has a melee focus
They should try it honestly
Sombra can be played at range and quite well
Not really, she has bad falloff
yeah then they can play dding and geguri
It's the hack we're talking about
She’s supposed to be played at just over Tracer range in actual combat
Their issue now is that they cant flex off of sombra goats if both of them play
She's not nearly as efficient, but definitely usable
which tbf isnt a problem
Further away you play, easier it is to hide 😦
Disruption is key
Disability is key not disruption
and hacking from the rear or flank does provide advantages nonetheless
im loving your light
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What ?
Disability is granted via utilizing the disruption
Are you on something yaenon
im confused rn
uhhhh
Are you having a stroke
lmao can u listen
Do we need to call someone
they're taking a breather
gj
WutFace
leave them be
Dapper weren’t you a SHD fan
We all were on that blessed day
can i not like a song tho
You can like a song I just have no idea what you’re saying
Listening
i just wanna know
it's a bit off topic to be posting lyrics in this chat specifically
Oh they’re lyrics?
yup
Then stop
@queen drift yes but until SHD gets their shit together, im rooting for toronto, which is my second team, mainly cuz theyre the closest ive got to a hometown team
Np xxxxxooxxxx
xoxoxoxox
Not a guy ;_;
Fanks
love that fam girl feel
wtf is this convo
Dunno
dragons has potential
wtf is this drags
Yeah i wish it was 2-2-2
..
We could some more diem on widow
but they've got a makeshift team
I'm going to literally say that
it is what it is
How much did they pay for diem?
They get benched, they switch out, they pull out a daft move
7p and some noodles
xd
and end up in the same void
@spring heath I can't tell when ur talking about league or the lyrics to your song...
both
I just want Guxue to be fully integrated
YES
Hangzhou will be so pog when he can fully communicate
first is lyrics due to my past and second is void is guuddddddd
Guxue is a G O D
D:
I don't think I've seen Guxue in action often
uhhhh
sparck has dissapointed me
Watch OWWC densegenerate
bad bad
spark has flopped pretty hard
Spark is not good, but Guxue is a god
I think it’ll be like shock season 1
guxue is the reason sparck had a fighting chance
It takes a god to make a bad team capable
then they bottled it
would u tell me like it is
but it takes multiple to make a great team
We won’t see spark play consistently well until they can integrate the Chinese
Being chinese I rep those chinese players
s
diya lul
this is the advantage NYXL has
just like how chengdu has a wildcard in baconjack and lateyoung
Bruh if Carpe wasn’t on Philly where do you think they’d be
Those Chinese players have earned my respect as well
cheng meng
13-18 imo
baconjack is surprisingly good
chengmeng
carpe wouldve went to new york
Nah
dog ears perk up at the sight of ur name
pine + carpe?
ya i miss pine
carpe on nyxl is scary as fuck
stream
Why would you want pine and carpe?
pine is the most american looking korean in owl btw
duh
lol
I still want carpe diem
widow matchup
I’ve been listening to billie eilish for like 20 hours yaenon
carpe fails to seize the day when it's his time to shine
I feel u
I think it’s not carpe not performing, rather there are times he can’t carry philly
Which is a weird way to class a player
double sniper les go
again, he can't carpe diem when he's supposed to
I just wish GOATs got banned
lmao
all of them heavy
Sayaplayer and Carpe are the most under-utilised players in owl imo
i want doomfist to be good again
Goat and Reaper work well
yum agreed
anyone that utilizes close range works well in goat
Sideshow wants to: know your location
that ability is fucking garbage
Dreamkazper wants to know your location
‘Anyone that utilises close range works well in goat’ Cries in tracer
Most people did
Tracer does well vs goat
LOL
pedooooo)))
if played properly
He might've been my fav western dps
NYXL has demonstrated this
Tracer v goats
Omegaluuuuuuuuuuul
lmao
boston lost dream and striker 
gained colourhex lul
call it
Vancouver
yup
Finals or final
finals
They're a couple of Koreans with mouse tapping skills
colourhex is a joke
Stage or season
but they've attained a certain degree of skill
but stage
NYXL Van Toronto
is toronto guaranteed to make stage 1 playoffs
no van
Tracer burns through enemies if she flanks
?
I said van
and clears out other off-flank enemies
Yea I’m thinking
lmao
Shut up ya hoe
shots fired
London ATL or Guangzhou I can’t decide beteeen
I don’t have faith ATL are consistent enough
@ me
id say nyxl is better
I don’t know enough about Guangzhou
at least theyre not suicidal
NYXL are better, but Van are more likely to win imo
atlanta needs to be aggresive
bumper will throw the game and then jjanu will carry them with a fat jjanuke
thats why gladiators punked us
atlanta can 2
Van has the meta down pat, so Van will win
bye nyxl?
So does nyxl
??????
It’s about pace
NYXL is too reliant on their squishy, and Vancouver has tons of players that can play an off-flank character
lmao whatever it is
If VAN set the pace of the game VAN win
Once the squishy goes down, so does their damage
i will cherish that game
If NYXL do, they win
This guy said tracer works vs goats so I’m not listening anymore
What ?
on the other end of the spectrum, what about justice vs mayhem
over for cast
That's fine if you don't see how effective she can be
i dont count lav as a 20th ranked team
Doom might be meta next stage
no
really
no
fuck yes
Doom counters bap
Right now either could win. Tossup tbh
no doom is supported by bap
And by bap I mean immortality field
I’d edge Florida over Washington
yeah
sombra counters immortality field ez
nah
How so
hack isnt good enough
Does her hack disable it
i feel
doesnt hack disable it completely
ya but
Her ult breaks it and her hack disables it
i think it does
get that emp and find immortality
Also with all of his buffs/bug fixes/boop buff he’s a lot more viable
ez hide
though it's difficult to hack when there's so many players hugging it
Using him won’t be feeding anymore
how does doom counter immortality field
??
valiant looks like a mess so
Unless you’re kruise
so the ult is one of her only options vs immortality
He does
we cant really determine how good valiant are tho tbh
y
We noticed
Doomfist's pushback can throw players out of the field, but that's not a counter
@spring heath i can tell
thanks fox
All his abilities knock heroes out of the immortality fields range
thanks dapper
Yikes
That’s just incorrect
"no skill is really involved"
oh shit we have dva bomb and and a shatter
You're not serious, right?
