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i looked it up and it looks like sweeping a rock with a broom
nice grav lol
And then currying existed
yes they are sweeping the ice away to make it go faster
Decay has been insane but his gravs are questionably
Who wins in a fight
bad
makes like no difference
Dafran fans vs glad fans
pretty sure most people that like ATL like it because dafran
Glads fans were salty Surefour got benched
but Decay proved his worth
not the meta for surefour anyways
im not salty at all
Surefour can come in for sombra
and im a big fan of his too lol
Decay plays better in the current meta so yea
rip
DECAY LMAO
Decay has been the break it or make it player for the glads right now
Lets go glads
wait wasnt fissure on glads


ok
gg
gg
Pog Gladiators
biggoose the pineapple
Charge map pool was not in favor for them
yall want anything from mcdonalds
Charge have no chance at playoffs which means my predictions are almost 100% true
O
calm down m8 dont wanna get too excited
I was just talking about the shields up chant
Omg grills omg
Imagine if next meta has no shields
and their motto is still shields up
gonna be akward
OI 👏 LADS 👏 LADS 👏 LADS 👏 HOT GIRLS
charge still in playoffs lol
No
Yes
Look at their next match
pineapple
against Vancouver they wont be likely to stay there
^
OOH ITS 4:20
unless they try to outplay in other comps
3-1 i was right again
Next meta will be mainly bunker with some 4/3 dps and occasional goats/dive
That’s my prediction
Probably completely off
Or we could have bandage meta
boy do you sound excited
Paris now look like they might make the playoffs with that loss from GZC
Which is just a bunch of baptistes teabagging while saying his voiclien
Paris
@upper niche I doubt it
heheheh
They’ll lose against fusions
Def
They just need to beat Washington and it gives them enough to take 8th.
And Dallas has 2 easy games coming up
They can beat SFS on map differential.
I bet 100 fake dollars that Defiant wins
Which ones
anyhow, i gtg.
Is dallas playing against
Spark was monstrous 1st week
2nd week was a no show
they managed to step it up at the end of 3rd week
Basically the opposite of London
London sucked week 1
And they’ve gotten progressively better
no London just kept on sucking and dominating back to back
Also they just had easier matches
Yet i still want london to lose to seoul
Won’t happen
Anything is possible.
depends
I mean
Marve1 has potential
doa
Mayhem beat fusions
monte
Marvel and jesce
predict right now
Marve1 and Jesce seem likea promising combo
Fusion didnt have boombox.
maybe they can try it out
Elk doesnt play off heal.
Elk played decent as zen
wtf
but not a shotcaller
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Spark has a song?
but no cigar
This song Zzzz
oh got this music
Guxue
yuck
I cant tell if this is as unfitting than Seouls rap music
Roky looks like a gremlin
What did dafran said that got him warned by owl?
@mint flower wasnt ur pfp shanghai dragons before or am i delusional
what?
dont remember that
i think he said like on twitter he was gonna quit owl
thats about all i can recall
dafran said on stream once he was so close to quitting owl but atlantas sport coaches talked him out of it
@hidden vault he got warned because he touched the camera
it was stupid
it was covering his screen a little and he touched it, that's all
its basically whos Zarya builds fastest
@fallen cloak you are correct
SHD was my profile pic, but until they get their shit together, I'm rooting for Toronto, AKA my second team
aight
Mainly cuz they are the closest I have to a hometown team this season
closest team to my country would be london
Also I really like Neko, don't know why
closest to mine would be atlanta cause i live in a tiny town at the georgia/florida border 😔
did all the players just get switched up this season?
i swear neko was on boston
right
he was let go
He wished to be on a different team cuz internal issues
Same thing happened to Striker
striker said he "didnt feel at home at boston"
His relationship with huk was really bad
what does that mean
Huk was an asshole
huk's not very nice
anyone remember how toronto esports destroyed themselves
Yeah lol
Yakpung lol
i just don't like toronto in esports overall
HaHAa
why isnt there a japanese team yet
video games were literally invented in japan
i think
Because the Japanese suck at overwatch
oh
it was created by a german immigrant
They don’t really have any esports scenes in Japan except for maybe league of legends right?
theres not much of a japanese audience because
A tokyo team?
well japanese cant really play games
i mean
or osaka
when its a working centric country
if there was a northkorean team north korea would say they won the league 28-0
nk already modifies news to make them look better
wouldnt be surprised if they said their team never lost a match
i mean they wouldn't know would they
Most likely teams I'd say are Busan, Stockholm, Berlin
but anyway
they fought the good fight
we need a scandinavian team
like sometime next season probably
i need something close to me i can support
pfft
irish team
wait @fallen cloak where do you even live
finland has some insane players
ya
i haven't seen finland's players
imagine if they made a team for the middle east tho
are there even any players actually-
davin
idk
but he's not in the league unfortunately
i imagine if there was they would just get ridiculed with terrorist jokes
saudi explosion
OWL players by nationality https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14eYYF2oodT320Mw0D3AFU9KTYlmzMZcJslVgRrUCV2g/edit#gid=0
LuL
or maybe iraq bomb
afghan taliban
Iran Isis
ive heard people say its in the middle east economically
Isn't it considered part of the middle east tho
google says it counts as the middle east
holup what
how did we get here
what teh fuck
this is the esports discussion
is with these banshees
lmao
Damn, spark fans are annoying af
spark sucks
uhh
pogronto defiant
okay i just don't like toronto for some reason
Toronto is just plain
i have no idea why
that might be why
The only thing i like is the skins
maybe
"bazzi got picked off"?
rip
yeah toronto skins are good
BOI HE WAS THE ONLY ONE LEFT
Theres not much flair from Toronto
WHAT ARE THESE COMMENTATORS
its like just plain
I mean the whole meta is plain
yeah the commentators are kinda bad lmao
goats is plain
i want to see reign do 6 dps
Next stage hopefully its gone
they dont do much other than that
yeah
theyre like the text book example like soe said
Rooting for Toronto
other teams have alot of styles with goats and variations
speaking of which
but toronto has none of that
they got sombra now
How bad is the zarya and zen nerfs tho?
except both traditional dive and goats will be situational
^
off-topic but how in the world is shanghai actually doing something
I don’t want the Hangzhou Shart passing the Outlaws
hangzhou bad 😤
hard agree
gottem
ivy'
all the chinese teams are bad imo

lmao
lmao
uh whats the joke
yes
uh whats the joke
that it sounds racist
Charge is the best Chinese team
yeah
And they’re just meh
Charge meh lmao
rly
idk i like em
you know
You got 4 Chinese teams against 12 how many NA teams
1 of them making it into top 10 was kinda expected
i actually forgot charge existed
im not sure why people like to segregate the majority of the teams with the chinese teams
I forgot the fusion existed
when most of them already are koreans
I forgot people get really upset over a loss
defiant or spark guys
Defiant
Shock pushed nyxl to the limit yesterday lol
im talking about now
woah spark
@gaunt acorn amnesia chat in here
i haven't really seen them do much of anything
who do yall think will be first in the roster tho
what?
i dont get what you mean
also shock and fusion oranges are pretty different
not sure how you confuse them
Idk maybe it’s just my brain
v amnesia chat

Hate how a brig can just beat any dps heroes...
ok dray
OHHHH
ok yaenon
ok ok
Oh i've missed that ping sound
Brig can beat any dps hero thats a fucking dumbass
head = left clicked
Whose your forgettable team dray
anyones forgettable team is Mayhem

Imagine being a pharah and getting killed by brigg
Loooool that grav
justice is mine
If Seoul can use fits and doesn't lose them the series
Justice is garbage
They B-teamed the Justice
Why are they a team
@sullen berry mayhem is just so boring
washington are the worst but florida are the most forgettable
justice shouldn't be a team
BQB was a name that came up when BBQ was mistyped
They should remove Justice and Mayhem
They got Atlanta
you know for a team called Mayhem and the fact that florida is prob one of the most insane teams
insane states*
mayhem isp retty fucking boring
i was abut to say
about*
florida ain't no insane team
half of the owl players aren't even from the place their team is based tho so like
just draft some random players for a florida team and it'd be good
pogranto defiant
what-
Florilanta Mayreign
okay don't ever disrespect reign
i will personally shove a pineapple down your throat
Ratlanta Reign
nO
Outlaws gonna stomp them next week
and make the stage playoffs
We’ll see
kodak best support don't @ me
true
Ratlanta ain’t ready
dafran however
Danteh will destroy him and the rest of his team
Bet
if reign actually loses i'm gonna cry-
let's hope we don't have another rialto for them
oof
that is indeed true
they'll 3-0 before that
so safe
I must say I didnt expect this from Toronto
especially their 4-0
same, it's sombra goats tho
and they rolled on kings just now
similar to what happened with the uprising and their lack of a counter
anyone remember note on reaper?
now that was classic
Can I just say is just really not that pretty? :/ a lot of the female cast members are really hyped up for nothing. Maybe that's just me but they look like they're trying way too hard.
Like look at the dudes. Brennan is a freaking hunk
But Soe and the other 2 girls they cast just look... 
hammond worst hero change my mind
jebaited
I raise you Brigitte
but brig is op that makes her good
why-
not more brig nerfs
Brig is just a pain in the ass
The real worst rn is mercy
lots of pros think Zarya is the problem
but we will see with the upcoming Zarya changes
i feel like if she's reworked they need to keep that at least
as long as you combo
they are at least looking into it
ult alone is a extended crowd control
pros didn't seem to like the initial zarya ptr nerfs
they changed them again
Idk mercy's pocketing just isn't what it use to be
Rip Grav
If they're actually gonna go through with the 2/2/2 role que thing then healers will need to have a bigger midgame impact imo
Yeah but
if they do that they can balance the game around 2 2 2
meaning they can give someheroes more freedom
And mercy is very flat end game healer. Zenyatta, brigette, lucio will just shine more
Which is why they nerfed lucio and brig to begin with
I think Blizzard will do something sneaky like this
Tweak until 2 2 2 is meta
then just slide the role que rug
under our feet
zen's the best healer tbh
Ana at this point will shine more midgame. So will the new flex healer dude
bastille
Ana is pog
Mercy is just low/no impact
Baptiste
Honestly everyone does everything better than mercy
It's already been tested in pro game pugs
Mercy in this state is just flat out bad
The problem is it needs to be a flat out buff to her
Give her back her original 60 hps heal
where it significantly makes lower ranks less fun
She'll then at least be on par with moira heals
Barely but it's a start
Right now she's literally the 4th best healer in terms of raw healing
or make rez insta again
nope
Moira Ana Lucio and then Mercy
don't do that
If there was a North Korean team what would it be called? The Pyongyang Royalty? The Pyongyang Thunder?
She use to be the best in terms of just raw healing
Then moira
Then ana buff
Then mercy nerf
They literally shit on her into hell
Wasnt mercy good in last OWL

No
excuse me what
mercy was among the most-picked heroes in owl s1
her and d.va were run in practically every comp
I think its just a cycle
Goats reigned supreme towards the end of the season
that's.. not true
something becomes meta > complants > changes
It is tho lol
goats was not played in owl s1
Genji is kinda dogshit rn
Not really. London beat philly with dps heroes
There was no goats season 1
after mercy-dive was dead, the meta shifted to double sniper, then single-support for playoffs
It was still dive and then double sniper
Seoul lost during dive meta remember. Then the meta shifted to double sniper where London dominated
Oh yeah I'm getting things mixed up
Which is funny because Seoul invented dive
It’s like goats losing using goats to like fuckin Houston
But she needs to be fixed somehow for sure
I don’t think you can fix mercy.. how?
If they made dive more viable it'd be good but i don't see that happening in 2/2/2 with where mercy genji and tracer are rn
I think they fixed junkrat buffs because was too strong with mercy
on ptr
or something
If dive was made meta again, we would see Seoul and London rise to the top of the charts again.
Introduce hero bans.
That’s how
No heroes being butchered needed
No, no hero bans
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that's a poor take
Would you rather nerf heroes into oblivion?
seoul struggled even during peak s1 dive
Because their coaching staff sucked not because they were incapable
They're not nerfed into oblivion
london didn't fare that well during dive either
Yeah. Blizzard nerfs heroes into oblivion
but hero bans arent the solution
they got a burst of energy during playoffs
Just ban one hero per team
which was.. definitely not dive
That’s all you need
No
Who would agree with bans but only in OWL?
Not me
I think it'd really do well tbh
Why are you so afraid of hero bans? It wouldn’t impact you unless you are a one trick @worn falcon
i think the teams would just ban heros that aren't meta
Nah
it would be the same as banning in league
Im not afraid, just dont like forced heros, they play whatever the meta is or how they feel comfy, giving more diversity to pick
They'd ban heroes their comp struggles most with tbh
We had diverse comps this season
But hero bans enforce diversity lol
Yeah, bans raise the skill ceiling for sure
I think the problem is most people dont want it to affect them
Yes
Only one tricks would hate the idea of hero bans.
so having it only in OWL wouldnt be a problem
and you forgot pharah, hammond comp
Just play more than one hero
since in OWL is where the skill celing should be highest
in volksaya
Im not onetrick FYI @feral igloo
idk with a good boop on ivy
Tbh you also gotta realize they're gonna cater nerfs and buffs mostly to what the audience wants
True
They're where their money comes from
But hero bans are the best way. Listen to the pros
It's their meta after all
They play the game like a job, they know what’s best for the game
They're allowed to be
ehh
Except they dont know what is the best
id argue pros in every competitive esport *do not know whats best
the pros aren't always right about things
They know the solutions for their own problems tho
they know whats strong
Better than anyone
but they cant come up with good solutions
Someone that spends over ten hours a day wouldn’t know what’s wrong with his or her own sport? Sure yeah, ok.
because their solutions create more problems.
Which is why the bans should only be in OWL, it means they need to be super diverse but the average joe does not
pros are insightful, but not dev insightful
I mean, if there were bans in OWL
What boop said
Theyre not devs
they could all just ban the same stuff
i thought 5 bans in league would bring more diversity
just like in league
but people just pick the same stuff in competitive LCS
the extra bans change almost nothing unless its a target ban
canada can celebrate both teams made playoffs 😛
Lol comparing league to ow
League also has way more heros
League has a roster 3x as big
right
but
the same number of champs are picked regardless
which is why bans alone arent enough
make the game 5v5 problem solverinod
But that's cuz half are irrelevant anyways
if you want diversity you need a solution appropriate for your game specifically
right.
If we had a 100 heroes in overwatch
but something OW does well is that they have almost every hero relevant
Hero bans would work
Most other heroes aren't irrelevant in ow
yeah
That’s too much.
it would just be all dive
Not at all?
instead of goats
exactly LOL
Brig banned every time
One ban per team is enough
jaja
bans present too many problems, ow just needs another set of nerfs until a new meta takes shape
another set of buffs/nerfs i mean
Ruining people’s characters isn’t good in the long run
thats how the game's always been
One could run goats, another wouldn't be able to
I'm just happy the OW dev team hasn't caved into hero bans yet
i like the way the game is currently, even if its all goats right now
That's not how Jane was explaining it from what i heard anyways
Who the fuck is Jane? A mercy main?
he means JAyne
...
Each team banned a hero on the other's
Jayne**
Oh
Yeah Jayne autocorrect
Haha
My idea of hero bans is “if one team bans X, X becomes unplayable for both teams”
Both teams get one pick
The way he explained it, you only banned on opponents rosters
I know what his idea of hero bans are
It wasn't conditional to both
I'm saying yours isn't the same as the pros
Many people have different ideas on what hero bans should work like since there isn’t a cemented hero ban system yet, it’s up in the air for how it will work.
So it allows more diversity on their part
Nobody knows besides geoff
Defiant is really good in general
3 min and 5s on the time bank
Yeah they fucked SHD last night
This current iteration of Dallas is actually not bad
AKM has improved quite a bit over the break
Unkoe was literal mvp
NYXL and titans are better but I’d buy a Toronto skin just for the color scheme
I'm gonna need Yak and Ivy to do the mostest
#1 seed color scheme
YAK
ah
That hammer was great
gods is something but nothing compared
sorry
oooo
that was guzue
x
stupid fights
you're forgiven
ugh
for
lol 5v5 while the lucios dick around
about time
as delayed as they can be
shame spark already lost
I love the birds eye view. Reminds me of GTA 2
Torontnoooo
lmao
;-;
torono stop bad show
so bad
feelsbadman
lmao good plays
man that death has gotta be tilting
Hi i'm new. What exactly is a esports discussion?
the music was on point too
a fluke
what happened?
@steel minnow
uh this chat channel is for overwatch league matches
I see
and any tournament matches in overwatch
and uh
@ruby pendant the lucio player from spark screwed themselves
lmao bye spark
oh
well, good luck and do good. wish i could watch
huge wins by defiant
ROKY IS MY SPIRIT ANIMAL
wow glad actually tho
Defiant are the Raptors of the league
who
yup raptors
basically
don't let that distract you from the fact it could have been a 4-0
we have yet to see them choke in the playoffs
Toronto Raptors NBA @worn falcon
cha
@gaunt acorn im more sad that Neko didnt get the record
Oh NBA, for some reason was looking for LOL teams or CSGO lel
kr trans
Who is the dude interviewing roky
what record?
didn't say vancouver 
@halcyon reef danny
no i'm just koreanj
No she's korean
oh lmao
Obviously
jj
all-access pass stream is 5 seconds ahead
those comms lol
js
half all-access
lmao
lmao
yup
shitty management fucked them over
@gaunt acorn danny lim?
you're a vancouver fan @spring heath ?
Looks literally nothing like him
Runaway is a pretty good team so i could see why
But Dallas is better (not really)
I stan Defiant and the Outlaws
hey admin 😃
hello
pretty ok
what happened to fuel? Titans transitioned well, but envyus couldn't?
Fuel won yesterday wym?
mean from Season 1, fuel had so much hype around them
They are tho, like right now 5th
yeah, on standings
And in overall skill
gonna have to disgaree on that one
To each their own
they are 5th on standings because matches played is not even right now
Cant believe they got Matt Damon to commentate
Washington justice is an expansion team, and they are a joke thus far
What is highest Zarya damage so far
in S2
hm nenne
or ivy
my guess
o
seominsoo is fine but
your dva is carrying
i love shu
shu v shaz
Is "overcoming comms issues" codeword for benching Surefour?


