not on the level of titans and nyxl but yes they are good
#esports-discussion
north tendon
night tusk
I hope somehow hunters win it.. they have not their full roster, not playing meta, full chinese (no koreans) and are and expension team. (also rated lowest of low in powerranking) if they win they have won in so many factors..
vale pond
Paris is one of the best in the league rn
lavish zenith
wow
night tusk
this stage*
white nova
Whos winning so far? I forgot
north tendon
I am supporting the hunters, too fun to watch
vale pond
Xl and titans
north tendon
we saw some genji play and a nanoblade
vale pond
paris dropped since they lost their first game
north tendon
amazing shit
white nova
Atlantas Tracer was really good with that come back
north tendon
also they have the best hammond in the game
night tusk
but who I believe who will win the this stage would be vancouver or NYXL... maybe ATL .. maybe
north tendon
cant not like that
white nova
Whos xl?
north tendon
atlanta wasnt really doing that hot prior to this game
not really a dominant fashion anyway
white nova
Oh ok thx
night tusk
idk if its one match bo5 in the stage playoffs
vale pond
new york extra large pog plays
white nova
Its a tie so far
north tendon
nyxl actually stacked roster
still have yet to see flower
and pine?
never saw pine
vale pond
pike only plays dps
balmy wolf
both are pure dps heros
night tusk
Pog bomb
north tendon
sbb played some atleast
vale pond
pine
north tendon
yeah
balmy wolf
one goats ain't meta anymore then maybe we'll see them
night tusk
Pine, babybay and shadowburn wont play this stage.. or they are throwing
north tendon
of course
libero is such a valuable player
those flex skills
only other player I can think of that is that amazing is leave
excited for him to join when hes 18 in owl
night tusk
nooooo
sullen berry
it's so weird how it was never intended for libero to stay on for long
balmy wolf
oof
night tusk
eaten grav saved them
balmy wolf
@sullen berry really?
sullen berry
he was a placeholder before flow3r would come of age
white nova
dang
balmy wolf
who knows
sullen berry
so what happened
balmy wolf
flower didn't look too hot in contenders
sullen berry
that probably lit libero's fire
night tusk
libero popped off
north tendon
no clue, he keeps it a secret how hes such a good flex
sullen berry
imagine your duty as a dps all season was to inevitably get benched
pearl stratus
That was never confirmed btw.
sullen berry
that's an anime plot right there
pearl stratus
It was a reddit rumor.
Since Reddit is the only place that still thinks fl0w3r isn't washed up.
night tusk
someone who is going to OWL for 100% won't tryhard in contenders.. I believe that was the biggest reason why fl0w3r did not look that great
balmy wolf
well libero is a very consistent player
sullen berry
if redditors are denying fl0w3r isn't washed up
north tendon
wasnt he also recovering from an injury?
pearl stratus
fl0w3r doesn't look great its because its not 2017 anymore.
Which was literally the last time he mattered.
sullen berry
I don't think I should ever assume word of mouth is good on /r/COW
balmy wolf
flower has a very straining aim style
north tendon
^
balmy wolf
and yea ever since the world cup he has not look great
north tendon
if akm can make a comeback, im sure flower can
balmy wolf
not the flower that destroyed teams by himself
north tendon
im still hopeful
pearl stratus
AKM didn't have injuries providing him with a constrained skill ceiling.\
sullen berry
Taimou would go winston if he had to deal with XL2 fl0w3r
pearl stratus
Just confidence.
sullen berry
He'd totally do it
pearl stratus
fl0w3r is basically a cripple from his old aiming style.
And he does not use it anymore.
balmy wolf
yea that killed his wrist
pearl stratus
Fingers more than wrist actually.
Two of his major injuries were finger based, which is worse.
Because it impacts any aiming style.
balmy wolf
finger tip grip?
balmy wolf
but yea that style of making a bunch of micro corrections really did hurt him
pearl stratus
Especially with how good Nenne is.
night tusk
f
north tendon
I think its nice how competitive the roster is, nyxl can only benefit more from this
coach would know
pearl stratus
Nenne and Fusions are arguable the two best contenders pick ups.
unreal shell
Washington Dragons
pearl stratus
McGravy did -not- look good today compared to his debut.
Nenne is just consistently been a top Zarya.
north tendon
its a shame fusions is limited in the games he can play
night tusk
omg washington
north tendon
i never got the hype around axxiom
pearl stratus
Yeah OWL caved and let the morons fix their stupidity.
balmy wolf
vague rule that the gm's only knew apparently
north tendon
good news for once
balmy wolf
kek
pearl stratus
If Misfits, MISFITS, knew the 'vague' rule and told people well enough Apply knew it in and out
Thats the orgs fault.
Because it means Boston/Philly did not properly give out the info.
balmy wolf
were looking too deep in the rabbit hole here
rugged yacht
It looks like the shock has arrived
white nova
AYYy
pearl stratus
Not really. People like to blame a vague rule, but like Yehhhh himself mentioned - everyone knew about it.
white nova
San Francisco won
tawny sigil
records are being broken, not cause player got better.... cause the meta is shit
night tusk
DC does not prove people wrong 
rugged yacht
any1 ready for the next cluster fuck of a meta?
unreal shell
is everyone in Washington dps main? they are not good at goats
balmy wolf
isn't valiant the 20th team in the standings?
rugged yacht
yeah
supple prism
think washington has language issues
rugged yacht
OOF that was close
supple prism
like shd did last year
night tusk
Fusion university > Justice
balmy wolf
idk it's the language barrier
north tendon
so justice and valiant are the only teams without a win so far? lol
pearl stratus
The only person who thought Wizardhyeong was a Genius was himself.
north tendon
i think valiant will get won soon though
rugged yacht
yeah
north tendon
one*
pearl stratus
It's why he gave himself his own nickname.
north tendon
are you actually shitting on wizard now? haha
he does get full of himself sometimes though
pearl stratus
He has never proven himself a great coach.
woven hill
I got beer and chicken, gotta find someway to enjoy goats
rugged yacht
mood
balmy wolf
I mean, he makes seem like a big coach, but it seems like he can't get a team coordinated at all
pearl stratus
Season 1 was Pavane, or you wouldn't have gotten rid of him.
night tusk
I do think that when he joined DC he did not knew that he had to do with budget players. Logix even denied because of the money (ofcourse regret it afterwards since he was not signed elsewhere)
north tendon
I dont think it was a getting rid of situation, sounded like parting ways for different experiences
and the nyxl players constantly praise him
pearl stratus
I mean Florida used to praise R2der.
Then the second he got dropped the shitstorm started.
Being professional doesn't always mean being honest.
north tendon
yeah, and in the recent watchpoint video, they still speak well of him
rugged yacht
janus is def a dps main
north tendon
jjonak for example
pearl stratus
Also people speak praise about Aero and Jayne, and both of them seem to hit more than a few walls of ineptitude. Doesn't mean they're bad people.
unreal shell
even sc2 has map ban phase, but OW can't have hero ban?
north tendon
of course he definitely got overrated with how dominant nyxl was
supple prism
why hero ban?
north tendon
but i still think hes among the cream of the crop
pearl stratus
It's the default tin SR idea.
night tusk
pause
rugged yacht
been a while since we had a pause
pearl stratus
Sinatraa keyboard issue looks like.
north tendon
atleast we got a pause on this zzzz game lol
rugged yacht
ooooooooooooooooooff
balmy wolf
remember the pauses in week 1 
night tusk
Ban for cheating D:
nova wadi
Why do they always look like they dont know shit about pcs
rugged yacht
can they replace it on the spot?
woven hill
So, do they bring in their own keyboards and mouses?
nova wadi
All 3 of them?
rugged yacht
@woven hill yes they do
pearl stratus
They don't actually.
They provide their specs and settings to Blizzard.
And use ones from the arena
So it matches what they're comfortable with
But they're not physically allowed to bring their own.
rugged yacht
oof makes sense tho cheating wise
pearl stratus
Its the same thing honestly.
If a person plays with [x] and [y] Blizzard just buys .. I think its like.. 3? [x] and [y] for them
And keep them there
All set up the way they want.
balmy wolf
makes sense
night tusk
c9?
pearl stratus
Yeah, one less overall variable for them to worry about.
rugged yacht
save hassel ig
north tendon
I mean dafran even has a special chair
pearl stratus
Yeah, they do a good job from what I can see for prepping them for whatever they need on stage.
rugged yacht
can we talk about this 3 min difference
white nova
lets gooooo!
pearl stratus
It's just tech stuff, all tech has a OoB failure rate you can never account for.
white nova
C'mon a it more
north tendon
agreed
rugged yacht
excuse me 4
white nova
and Washington can win this round
pearl stratus
I believe its something like... 6-8%?
Thats the "acceptable ceiling" for OOB failure.
thorn panther
Outlaws bring their stuff on stage.
north tendon
I think if people knew the reasons for the pauses, they wouldnt be as irritated
pearl stratus
Notice the first team playing never has to bring their stuff.
north tendon
then again I dont think they have the right to
tawny sigil
did janus land a eartshater yet?
pearl stratus
You can see it more often when people get subbed in and out.
night tusk
gg
pearl stratus
They bring their own chosen kb+m
thorn panther
No my guy. In Outlaw's video, before the started the match, they had to bring their stuff from the back
nova wadi
I wonder how much those headphones cost
thorn panther
Not the match, but the series in general
pearl stratus
I literally just said 'they bring their stuff from the back'
thorn panther
You said the first team playing never has to bring their stuff.
night tusk
they set up before walking in
thorn panther
^
pearl stratus
Well thats a change from Season 1, my bad. It's still kept at the arena and isn't their own stuff.
night tusk
I do believe it is..
north tendon
they would buy them the same anyhow
night tusk
I remember moth having a half keyboard
pearl stratus
`In addition, all 12 teams are provided dedicated practice rooms, which are available to teams 24/7 year-round. Each room is equipped with the identical computer hardware that’s on the Blizzard Arena soundstage.
“That is really important for the pro players,” says Emminger. “Just like football players on the field need same equipment for practice, they need the same PC equipment.”
In order to maintain competitive integrity, all players clone their hard drives to save their KVM and display setting at the beginning of the season. These hard drives are then stored securely and can only be accessed by Blizzard’s IT to prevent any risk of cheating. Overwatch League requires a similar process for players peripherals (i.e. mouse, keyboard, etc.), which are delivered to the IT team in a factory-sealed package at the beginning of the season and housed in a secure storage container.`
pearl stratus
Last paragraph being the most important for this argument.
sullen berry
I fucking love KVM setups
north tendon
Yeah
pearl stratus
They even use the peripheral settings for marketing, if you didn't notice.
north tendon
I think with the many pauses this season, people forget how good they are with this stuff
tawny sigil
is sideshow streaming?... what's his stream?
pearl stratus
You can get their exact settings if you want to emulate your favorite players.
north tendon
just happens, with players experiencing issues
sullen berry
they showed all of Pine's display and mccree settings
pearl stratus
It's more to do with the layoffs, imo.
north tendon
I was worried it was the layoffs as well
pearl stratus
OWL wasn't exempt from some of the layoffs, and they did occur on the behind the scenes as well.
north tendon
not sure how that factors in though
pearl stratus
Which will definitely impact production.
night tusk
any% speedrun numbani LUL
woven hill
❤
thorn panther
LMFAO
thorn panther
SKFPNNIOEROISOGROIRPKRSJLRT]
balmy wolf
rip hunters
sullen berry
most heroes played by end of stage 1 matches
thorn panther
Don't roast them dude they're trying
balmy wolf
hope their main tank can get out visa hell
night tusk
Bren also in Visa hell 😦
thorn panther
:(
pearl stratus
It wasn't a roast, really.
night tusk
I mean sideshow*
pearl stratus
Bren's back, btw.
thorn panther
I miss Bren..
north tendon
bren is back
oblique valley
so shock is winning
sullen berry
That ain't sideshow smh
pearl stratus
Chengdu is one of my favorite teams.
north tendon
hes right there
oblique valley
anyone suprised?
north tendon
LOL
woven hill
coming into 2019, can we really say Overwatch deserves GoTY this year?
north tendon
you mean sideshow
pearl stratus
That was just shit by them.
night tusk
SIDESHOW *
pearl stratus
5 minutes of uncoordinated ults just hurt to watch
north tendon
but yeah sideshow is the big brain of the league
thorn panther
Wait he's back?
sullen berry
kinda mean to be more interested in sideshow's return
north tendon
so I would have wanted him in before bren
oblique valley
but it isn't game of the year
night tusk
sideshow is in visa hell
sullen berry
when bren gave NZ a shoutout all last week
pearl stratus
I actually prefer Sideshows stream
sullen berry
^
north tendon
sideshow is actually big brain, the current "desk" is just babbling tbh
miss reinforce as well
sullen berry
they don't call other brits mad lads for nothing
oblique valley
can I jsut say how beautiful SF's color scheme is
pearl stratus
I prefer reinforce where he is so far.
oblique valley
like their logo is ass
pearl stratus
Because its saving production.
oblique valley
but their color scheme is p nice
north tendon
yeah I mean im glad they have him something
night tusk
DOA has the power to castercurse
north tendon
gave*
pearl stratus
So having a person who knows whats going on being part of the production team is huge imo.
thorn panther
Shock skins > Everyone elses skins
north tendon
yeah of course
pearl stratus
We've really only missed one play, and it was a side play.
When Dding double bombed Chengdu last night on Dorado.
Because it was so far away from the cart no one expected it lol
north tendon
however if im honest, im usually not a fan of where the camera is at
like I go to all access a lot
sullen berry
i think i have that clip one minute
north tendon
only problem is all access sucks fps wise
woven hill
AHH FUCK, I MISSED THE SHANGHAI GAME!
pearl stratus
It was a great play, smart play. Baconjack was definitely going to go to the wall and use the widow angle, great play by Dding.
woven hill
DID THEY WIN?
oblique valley
#Justice4Justice
pearl stratus
But the point was basically capped
oblique valley
@woven hill shanghai didn't happen yet, they play after this
woven hill
oh
thorn panther
Who are they playing against?
north tendon
meme fuel
woven hill
i thought it was first, it said that on the OWL tab on the main menu
pearl stratus
They beat Chengdu 4-0 last night, play Dallas twice in a row now.
oblique valley
fuel
thorn panther
LOL
north tendon
gonna be a spicy match
oblique valley
mhm
sullen berry
@pearl stratus https://clips.twitch.tv/RockySoftYakinikuJonCarnage what a playmaking combo
pearl stratus
It really depends which Dallas shows up.
Its either going to be smooth, or a really really hard match.
north tendon
they are going to coin flip
oblique valley
can I just say that corey is the worst zaryah in the league
north tendon
LUL
woven hill
Do i support the team Internethulks' ideals made, or the team i've been with since the founding?
rough zodiac
GOATS IS SO FUCKING BORING
north tendon
then again...effect was doing too hot on zarya....
pearl stratus
Oooooof.
rough zodiac
This is why I don't watch the league
north tendon
wasnt*
sullen berry
@rough zodiac so what's your point
woven hill
OWl requires 3rd party assistance to watch
oblique valley
yeah but is sayaplaya a zarya main?
woven hill
i got 10 beers to help me digest this shit
thorn panther
Goats 
night tusk
Goats 
thorn panther
I wanna see some widow
pearl stratus
DPS players are just going to go back to doing shit damage after Goats anyway.
rough zodiac
because it's fucking boring
north tendon
I think if goats wasnt so common, it wouldnt be as dull
pearl stratus
With their pathetic 10-12,000 damage.
feral igloo
Who won???
rough zodiac
Like who wants to just watch brawls
sullen berry
watching goats is miles better than having the spectator cam on birdring throwing while Fury is getting D.va bombs
north tendon
but personally I enjoy it, as a rein player
rough zodiac
I wanna watch the dps players actually play dps
thorn panther
Lol what is Washington doing?
woven hill
Shock is doing great right now
night tusk
GDQ I guess
sullen berry
^^^
oblique valley
and you're probably only in gold, maybe plat, so when do you with ur randoms even get to make goats work? @rough zodiac
north tendon
everything is doing great vs justice
woven hill
but their up against washington, so are they really doing good?
pearl stratus
Unless you want to find me a dps player who can do over 100,000 damage in four maps.
proper cove
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED?!
oblique valley
if u don't watch OWL goats doesn't even effect you
thorn panther
woah who's that cutie
rough zodiac
You'd be surprised how many play goats in competitive
proper cove
How did SF take the point in less than 2 minutes
pearl stratus
Unless you're in GM, none do.
sullen berry
if you aren't here for the owl tokens you have every right to complain about the matchups
pearl stratus
Because people below that are too fucking stupid to play it right.
woven hill
Is It wrong to play Mei in this meta?
north tendon
trust me I have seen it often in diamond
woven hill
I FUCKING LOVE PLAYING MEI
north tendon
ps4
woven hill
MAH BOY
thorn panther
Try it
sullen berry
but you could also rep the chinese teams who aren't always playing goats all the time @rough zodiac
pearl stratus
It's like gold players picking all the dive heroes and being like "WE'RE PLAYING DIVE" as the Winston jumps left, the D'va goes right and the supports push like DPs.
oblique valley
@woven hill we just saw mei in florida's game
proper cove
@woven hill Mei x Brigitte Combo is deadly 💀💀
oblique valley
yeah not everyone plays goats
woven hill
How was it?
night tusk
goats in lower rank can be destroyed with 2-2-2
woven hill
Did Mei just die?
pearl stratus
Goats doesn't exist in lower ranks.
oblique valley
it was alright
pearl stratus
Picking the right heroes doesn't mean you can play the comp.
night tusk
^
oblique valley
mei is like the saint moses of overwatch
north tendon
goats is boring to play....but compared to dive, just stay close together and you have much less margin of error, besides it being a bamboozle strat
supple prism
i have seen goats comp twice in lower ranks and they werent coordinated
oblique valley
she parts the red sea of blood in a teamfight
woven hill
I've ran into goats twice in Diamond ,it's not fun to fight
north tendon
seriously, I have destroyed many teams with it
rough zodiac
I'm complaining because I would love some of the best dps players in the world actually play dps, I don't know why that's a bad thing
pearl stratus
Because people crying like bitches got old in 2018.
night tusk
just run hunters comp 4Head 3/4 dps
woven hill
TFW you're nanao 4 TIMES as Mei in a Comp game
north tendon
lol
woven hill
you know you're good
pearl stratus
People cry about Goats more than they play it.
So people hate the people who cry more than the comp now.
woven hill
Goats is just boring on all aspects
north tendon
cid, at this point everyone knows the state of the meta, just have to wait
the new balance patch could help things as well
woven hill
boring to watch, boring to play, boring to hear about
rough zodiac
Yes but with the release of baptiste it just promotes goats even more
north tendon
bap isnt pro goats really
rough zodiac
He is.
supple prism
if anything, pro bunker
oblique valley
am I the only person who just see janus just swing in the air when he was afar from his team
rough zodiac
He is just going to prolong the brawls
woven hill
He's a bit of both
pearl stratus
Anyway, I'm going to bop the idiot into ignore because I don't want to have another argument with a silver SR spaz.
north tendon
even the devs dont think so
pearl stratus
You guys have fun with the special ed.
woven hill
he's more anti goats though
thorn panther
It's just not exciting as the regular 2/2/2 games. Like when Linkzr was playing widow on Busan and shot that Tracer mid air.
rough zodiac
LMAO Endoken I love that you resort to personal insult
night tusk
if justice win somehow I will win a million aswell
rough zodiac
Sorry we have differing opinions but that's why we have opinions
pearl stratus
Shock just won't care, and will throw.
thorn panther
3-0 lol
pearl stratus
I want a Bumper-esque BM throw though.
Because until we get another one of those, all other throws are minor
oblique valley
mhm
supple prism
he could try but his teams peel will just save him lol
lavish zenith
so justice are the new shanghai dragons?
night tusk
#waitingroom dallas fuel vs shanghai
pearl stratus
The solo shatter on Izayaki?
night tusk
justice and LAV are the new dragons LUL
pearl stratus
While he teabag shim
north tendon
lmao
oblique valley
I haven't seen titans play yet
pearl stratus
And Rapel kicks him in the head.
oblique valley
yeah lav is actually shit
pearl stratus
They're really not.
north tendon
my favorites are bumper suicide charging with the enemy reins
pearl stratus
They sadly have the hardest schedule of every team for Stage 1.
north tendon
like with fate
night tusk
LAV should be the hard schedule, not have one
pearl stratus
Like as of now only one team has even given Vancouver a small fight.
Which is GZC.
They destroyed everyone else.
And not like a minor destroyed.
Just like..
proper cove
That was the fastest OWL map I’ve ever seen
pearl stratus
Destroyed destroyed.
oblique valley
yeah but if they're a good team like you say they are they wouldn't need to rely on wins from weaker teams to be good
like SF shock is an ok team
thorn panther
Can they slow this series down?
oblique valley
they aren't great
night tusk
spark is not that good right now ?
thorn panther
As much as I like watching, I also want coins.
pearl stratus
They had 2 game 5's, for Spark and NYXL, which all went to Map 5 game 3.
oblique valley
but justice is just ass
pearl stratus
So they were loses but really close losses.
thorn panther
Justice is throwing.
pearl stratus
Toronto they should have won.
And Vancouver fucks everyone.
Thats been their schedule so far.
night tusk
Outlaws should won from Defiant LUL but someone decided to play Reaper on first point attack ?? LMAO
north tendon
prince, top 3 at the very least
pearl stratus
@thorn panther For 3 out of 4 games its been like watching Bruce Lee fight an infant.
thorn panther
Jesus..
night tusk
f for babybay
north tendon
they are the only team I imagine can go toe to toe with nyxl atm
pearl stratus
Shanghai -might- have taken a map from them if they had their main tank.
oblique valley
OMG WE GOT A DPS COMP
pearl stratus
But they would not have won.
night tusk
Jebaited
oblique valley
man I got excited
thorn panther
:(
woven hill
I was about to get excited for a Widowmaker
sullen berry
so easily misled
woven hill
fucking kill me
rough zodiac
I love watching Zens
warm quartz
I mildly want to watch SHD fucking murder Fuel
pearl stratus
@woven hill Just watch Dorado from last nights Shanghai v. Chengdu.
pearl stratus
Baconjack got to play Widow and pretend he was impactful.
oblique valley
welcome to fahzixstan, where you don't boop, you get booped
night tusk
[i]test[/i]
warm quartz
@pearl stratus BROOO STOP RUBBING IT IN THAT I MISSED IT ❤
night tusk
how is mei talking in italic
pearl stratus
So is Dding.
woven hill
A Mei zing
lavish zenith
its why houston got booed when they changed off pharmercy into goats
pearl stratus
Shanghai legit has one of the best dps combos in the league.
north tendon
oh yeah, I love dding's pharah
night tusk
LUL
lavish zenith
though it does reflect the mood of the audience
north tendon
I think mangachu rated him the best
warm quartz
@night tusk little asterisks surrounding your sentence !likethis! but ! replaced with *
woven hill
- You type a * in between your scentence *
pearl stratus
Dding is the bes tSombra in the league right now, imo.
thorn panther
Anyone feeling like they're purposely throwing this game?
night tusk
o
lavish zenith
me
night tusk
oooooo
warm quartz
All they're fighting for is the map win
north tendon
its a common trend with map 4
pearl stratus
Shock can't afford to meme that much though
They have too many losses.
They need the map win.
rough zodiac
I have second hand embarrassment for Justice
woven hill
So you do this * Hello * with no spaces, to make Hello
warm quartz
As i said
woven hill
yah see
thorn panther
Hello
night tusk
I know, same as watsapp.. just did not knew how before xd
woven hill
there you go
pearl stratus
But they can afford to fuck around for a minute or two.
woven hill
I have made you stronger
night tusk
noobhunter showed me
woven hill
Shock is just shitting on these guys
stuck agate
o o f
north tendon
but yeah that was nasty
night tusk
north tendon
LOL
stuck agate
OH D A M N
north tendon
honestly I feel bad for this team, they got roasted too hard already
what with the fusion budget joke
lavish zenith
that commentator
night tusk
Letter number LUL
north tendon
they couldnt even wait until the match is over
thorn panther
Jesus Shock..
north tendon
too fired up
sullen berry
letter/number wombo combo
magic birch
JANUSELESS
night tusk
Twitter
sullen berry
@north tendon remind me which one was this?
pearl stratus
The Fusion BM was good though.
Because Kate came out with some budget trash talk.
Like damn bitch. Your budget so tight you can't afford more words or a picture?
The fuck was that.
magic birch
kate sold fake jobs right
tawny sigil
nothing in overwatch get cleaned. those area exist in an infinite time loop universe where 12 people fight for eternity.
magic birch
and she's still on the team
pearl stratus
Nothing confirmed or anything on that.
north tendon
Twitter
pearl stratus
Just Washington had a low budget.
north tendon
and yeah, it was fair game
pearl stratus
All thats actually known.
sullen berry
@pearl stratus "damn bitch. Your budget so tight that you had to post it yourself?"
north tendon
apparently, part of the reason they didnt get harsha
pearl stratus
And in defense - if you leave your current job without a contract signed you're a fucking moron,.
north tendon
and logix
night tusk
Budget xQc LUL
sullen berry
@north tendon ty lol
pearl stratus
So if Harsha got jebaited into leaving his job without a contract thats his own fault for being stupid.
north tendon
np
magic birch
super bad
night tusk
@pearl stratus yes but still shit move
north tendon
yeah, harsha was definitely careless
pearl stratus
Not saying its not a shit move, but its an avoidable one.
north tendon
^
pearl stratus
You don't have a job until you sign the papers.
woven hill
while i'm not a fan of Sinatraaaa, i do hope his team wins
night tusk
I think others have learned from it
north tendon
but I mean he got a sweet deal with titans
woven hill
they seem more coordinated than DC
pearl stratus
I like watching Sinatraa play.
magic birch
who was harsha for
pearl stratus
But I don't care about him as a person.
night tusk
shock, now in titans
woven hill
I dunno, his personality doesn't run with me
pearl stratus
Yeah he definitely won out in the end.
woven hill
but he';s a good player, that's sure
magic birch
good thing he isn't in WJ
pearl stratus
Or SF really.
north tendon
LUL I think wizard is having "I want out" thoughts
pearl stratus
Vancouver is a good org to be with right now lol
So much of Washingtons issues are his own though.
Bad ult usage, stupid plays.
Thats the coach.
100%
magic birch
also why doesn't fusion play a certain viking
oblique valley
good question
woven hill
TORBJORN?
north tendon
what if its like pine said? you can coach well but if the players dont execute it properly
rapid locust
he's too aggriesive
north tendon
then its all for naught
magic birch
@rapid locust too agressive
rapid locust
yee
magic birch
have you seen bumper
pearl stratus
See thats too much like management to me.
pearl stratus
Coaching style/management style can work for everyone, if you're willing to flex how you do it.
rapid locust
aey, but fraggi is super agressive
pearl stratus
At least in my experience having managing people.
magic birch
perfect for this meta
pearl stratus
You just approach it differently for different people.
woven hill
Why do they never play Sombra/pharah, dps who counter goats
rapid locust
zarya is your dps, not rein
magic birch
no
pearl stratus
People do play Sombra goats, if they have a good Sombra.
magic birch
if fragi is playing rein then it's a dps
balmy flower
is washington justice gonna be this season's shanghai dragons?
pearl stratus
Dragons for instance tend to do more Sombra Goats than standard goats.
magic birch
ado on brig basically handicaps them
pearl stratus
The hardest part with Sombra Goats is either your Off-tank needs to have a solid solid Zarya, or your D'va needs to have a strong Sombra.
balmy flower
it seems like mayhem hasnt improved at all, just stayed the same as last time
sullen berry
"It starts with a charging Rein. Janus floods the enemy backline. His team races back and forth with closed eyelids. Janus dies. Dead. Now it’s up to Justice to decide what to do with Wizardhyeong."
pearl stratus
I mean
rapid locust
rein has a lot of damage potential, but fraggi is bad at his charges so he doesn't get played
pearl stratus
Florida showed you can still use Genji.
But its easier to practice one comp that works nearly everywhere.
woven hill
@balmy flower it seems so
pearl stratus
In terms of practice efficiency.
reef imp
Washington is on the fast track to becoming the new Dragons.
sullen berry
I mean
magic birch
@sullen berry shakespearian poem
stuck agate
damn that hurt to watch
sullen berry
you could call them injustices
north tendon
yea, though I have flashbacks of a shitty ladder genji doing nothing on triple tanks
rough zodiac
some of those handshakes though
north tendon
hes really a risky pick
rough zodiac
must be so awkward when you get rolled
pearl stratus
@sullen berry No.
Injustice was a pretty good series.
This is not a good series.
rapid locust
I think it's too soon to tell that washington is the new dragons
sullen berry
@pearl stratus would you want to pass on the Dragons title?
thorn panther
I feel bad for them...
magic birch
people getting hyped about dragons getting 2 wins like it's the same roster
north tendon
I dont think they will end up with no wins, but probably very few
until things shape up
pearl stratus
@rapid locust It's not really. They're showing no growth. Even Florida shows some growth.
balmy flower
next is SHD vs Fuel ...... is there a match?
pearl stratus
Depends which Dallas shows up.
night tusk
harsha retweets: https://twitter.com/NRG_derrick/status/1102004625568194562
Twitter
pearl stratus
Dallas v Fuel is still there.
sullen berry
#wasitthatharsha
north tendon
should be exciting
balmy flower
good or just ok now?
inland pawn
saying washington is the new dragons is a huge disrespect to the dragons 
sullen berry
^
north tendon
actually star plays, so good
woven hill
WEOOOOOOOO
north tendon
gamsu, dding, diem
pearl stratus
True. Washington has Koreans to start with.
north tendon
etc
rapid locust
It's still too soon to tell
north tendon
I also like their support line
balmy flower
funny we joke about mayhem being bad but valiant still hasnt won any games either
magic birch
@woven hill they already won
sullen berry
ADO more like "Where did you Go?"
night tusk
magic birch
about 20 minutes ago
woven hill
No
north tendon
did shock really turn this to a beef thing about harsha? haha
woven hill
WOO, WOWOWO, WOOO
north tendon
well thats an amusing situation
pearl stratus
The justice 4 harsha thing looked like some rando
woven hill
2-42
magic birch
how do I ride it
sullen berry
can the NRG guy not do a Toronto Esports
stuck agate
is getting the all access pass worth it?
north tendon
it was nrg, arent they part of shock?
sullen berry
@stuck agate yes
pearl stratus
Shockwave, duh.
north tendon
but yeah seemed dramatic
reef imp
All right! Time for the match many of us are here to see. Can the Dragons go for three in a row?
stuck agate
o actual? aighty
sullen berry
depends what you want out of it
oblique valley
dragon hatrick pls
sullen berry
but most likely, it's for the access part
upper niche
This next match is pretty much going to define what the bottom end of the playoffs cut-off looks like.
inland pawn
dragons about to light the fuel
night tusk
3-2 for dragons ? or 2-1 (if 2cp is draw)
sullen berry
imagine dragons making an impact on the bottom end
north tendon
I know people will be memeing fuel if they lose, but the current dragons is a different beast
sullen berry
imagine Dragons
magic birch
@sullen berry they bring the thunder
magic birch
you just gotta pretend you are a believer
north tendon
lunch....
woven hill
Why does LoL music get em more hype than anything!!
woven hill
The UK should be scared of you, you should be scared of us
We'll steal your tea and fill you with opium fuckboy
night tusk
Twitter
reef imp
Only 3rd in hacks?
north tendon
LOL OOF
reef imp
That won't last.
inland pawn
tawny sigil
rip geguri
north tendon
feederee still a starter
woven hill
Yeah, why aren't the playing Greguri anymore?
north tendon
lul
night tusk
no mickie
inland pawn
no Effect LUL
reef imp
The way the Dragons' luck is going, they will lose.
north tendon
mickie is too busy in the gym to play overwatch
night tusk
no one is from the old envyus
lean badge
LETS GO DRAGONS
night tusk
new roster vs new roster
woven hill
I think this could go boths ways
upper niche
Publicly shit-talking coach vs underdogs everyone wants to see win.
supple prism
i still wanna say fuel is gonna win but close
woven hill
Dallas coach was shit talking?
supple prism
jayne
upper niche
Pft, Jayne is always shit talking.
woven hill
oh, that was funny
upper niche
watch any of his 'reviews' of contenders matches.
woven hill
i thought it was a controversy kind of shit talk
upper niche
Jayne watching contenders match: "this is so <insert adjective here>". Same strat played in OWL: wins.
reef imp
Well, it was a good attempt by the Dragons, but c'mon, we all know they're coming back from this.
night tusk
jayne was rekt by team china so when team canada play they stole the winston in goats strat and it worked in their favour.
north tendon
oge on fire
woven hill
Well, at least Dallas is playing better than Boston
reef imp
oh, that's not good
spring heath
ogeeeeee
night tusk
welcome back xd
upper niche
I don't see why the league thought it would be sensible to have the same two teams play each other twice in the same stage.
spring heath
hi !!
outer sluice
Go Dragons
north tendon
yeah hello 😄
spring heath
GO DRAGONS
night tusk
omg closer
spring heath
haha dallas is wrecking tho
outer sluice
Dragons beat Dallas Fools
woven hill
I dunno, both teams are good
reef imp
All right, the Fuel is putting up a good fight. But the Dragons have had a slow build of momentum before. They'll gain steam soon enough.
spring heath
hihi blue srey baby
north tendon
oge having issues
latent vigil
wtf happened to his computer
outer sluice
Dragons 3-2 Dallas Mule
night tusk
let her play
rough zodiac
is the pass worth it?
stuck agate
its lifetime?????????????????????
tawny sigil
all access pass?
reef imp
All right, that was a good use of ult.
north tendon
rck is a really solid addition to fuel
tawny sigil
its 1 year
stuck agate
awww
night tusk
1 year* I guess
woven hill
IT'S OVER ANAKIN!
north tendon
however do keep in mind it doesnt apply to vods
rapid locust
hElLo ThErE
north tendon
so if you cant watch live often, then dont
reef imp
See? The Dragons always come back.
woven hill
Well, Dallas certainly isn't boston.
reef imp
I give credit where it's due-- Dallas is performing well.
spring heath
shoulda secured oge kill
rapid locust
technically dragons have a better standing currently than fuel
north tendon
gamsu winston mmm
spring heath
mmm
night tusk
zachareee hamster
north tendon
a good rally can win this
north tendon
how does unkoe get these kills
stuck agate
:(
ruby pendant
wow
north tendon
hes nuts
reef imp
Damn. Shut-out.
night tusk
nooo
woven hill
OGE LUL
spring heath
dragons 😦
reef imp
But the Dragons haven't even begun to fight.
woven hill
1 game lost, they can still get this
stuck agate
time to grab some snackies
ruby pendant
Dragons 3-1
woven hill
I got 8 beers left
spring heath
lul
north tendon
probably wont need them all
woven hill
I will if Goats is a thing
north tendon
lol
spring heath
i'm on beer 2
night tusk
i'm on water LUL
balmy wolf
wats the score rn?
stuck agate
im on that Choccy Milk
balmy wolf
was it a good fight or stomp?
woven hill
HEY, MY TOURNAMENT MANAGER IS IN ANOTHER FINALS
spring heath
o no i missed the fight
azure harbor
Sombra
north tendon
dding sombra is a mean one
rough zodiac
wow 900 iq chase
azure harbor
almost has her ult again
night tusk
jake played ana aswell today
azure harbor
DDING is carrying
inland pawn
dding is pretty pog
reef imp
The way Dding plays her, Sombra is to be feared.
rough zodiac
WOW
reef imp
She is the very thing that keeps the other teams up at night.
inland pawn
zacharee LUL
azure harbor
RCK
spring heath
wooo DRAGONS
stuck agate
OHOHOHOHOHOOOOOOO
white nova
Did sanfrancisco win?
stuck agate
sanfran trashed washington dood
azure harbor
Dragons tier 1 team now
stuck agate
it hurt to watch
white nova
dang
night tusk
sombra = no dva. so thats why they run ana.
proper cove
Dding fucking carried them
inland pawn
time to put in Effect to one shot sombra with widow 😂 👌🏿
white nova
whos versing?
pearl stratus
It's win win
median coyote
Yes
azure harbor
it's nice to see Sombra and not GOATS vs GOATS
night tusk
4Gitte brig is just mace to face
proper cove
The fuck did you say about Zach?
spring heath
zach SUX
night tusk
Zach is a hitsca-... flex player
spring heath
unkoe is kinda unsung hero for dallas
north tendon
ye
median coyote
Unsung?
median coyote
Idk, I feel like he is always recognized as one of the very best on Fuel. He's just never in the discussion for best Zens across the league... Which is pretty accurate
north tendon
that diem play was beautiful
spring heath
o i c !
north tendon
hes known as a good zen
north tendon
but I dont think hes praised so much as a dallas winning factor
night tusk
POG
azure harbor
inland pawn
4Gitte
woven hill
DOUBLE QUAD DPS!
stuck agate
OH
reef imp
Youngjin is out for blood, JEEZ!
rapid locust
oof
pearl stratus
Zach is just tragically overrated, honestly reminds me of Mangachu (but with a better hero pool)
I appreciate that Aero likes him and thinks he's coachable.
But... not seeing it.
azure harbor
EMP
north tendon
thats a perfect emp if I have ever seen one
inland pawn
dding is actually PogU
tawny sigil
mah boyz, the dragons
reef imp
Dding is probably the best Sombra in the League at this point.
pearl stratus
It's scary because he's their Zarya too.
north tendon
I would agree
median coyote
I just wish they'd try pulling Zach out
north tendon
yeah lol
spring heath
yeah that is very scary
median coyote
Just a little rotation
north tendon
and I knew zach was bad news
inland pawn
zach LUL
north tendon
aero loves him tho apparently
median coyote
Of course they lose Zach
minor flame
Shanghai defense is so tight
rapid locust
losing zack isn't that bad
pearl stratus
Sintraa and Zach were both shit in the OWWC.
But Sinatraa looks NOTICEABLY improved.
Zach looks exactly the same.
Thats a coaching failure.
night tusk
when is another team just better and not a players fault ? :p
ruby pendant
they fault for not being as good!
spring heath
!!!
night tusk
Pog
north tendon
great match
inland pawn
north tendon
they adapted well