where do you get that from
#esports-discussion
minor flame
unreal shell
new Deadeye can kill tanks now
supple prism
patchnotes
inland frost
Patchnotes
ruby sable
it's in the patch notes
supple prism
its 50 now
inland frost
cedar drum
Eeeewwwww
supple prism
was 55
inland frost
From 55 to 50
minor flame
5 less dmg per shot
inland frost
That's 5 less damage.
ruby sable
yeah max damage for dead eye is like 550 now
minor flame
FTH as a whole
will be less effective agaisnt armored and tanks
thank god
cause mccree felt way too op for a revolver
inland pawn
its not any revolver
feral jacinth
Ignore the armor and tanks
inland frost
I mean, a Revolver should do some good damage...
inland pawn
its mccree's revolver
feral jacinth
Fuckinf dps and healers
ruby sable
i mean it's a revolver lol
feral jacinth
Got hit hard by fth
minor flame
youd think revolver is mid range most effective
but no
most effective in short range
cedar drum
@ruby sable Techno revolver
feral jacinth
Well i mean
inland frost
It's what FTH should be used for Nuking a Healer or Tank
minor flame
Flashbang and FTH are already a deadly combo
minor flame
FTH was just way too much dps
feral jacinth
A revolver from far away may hurt like hell but upclose itll do more in person so
inland frost
Meant DPS not, Tank
feral jacinth
Stun and fth is one way people killed me as brig
inland pawn
whats wrong with that? 😃
minor flame
basically
feral jacinth
Nothing just was saying its an oof
minor flame
Deadeye buff is a nerf to Lucio and all tanks
especially winston primal
that one suffers the most
feral jacinth
Practically a game of who stuns more
inland pawn
holy sparks
minor flame
Riaaaaa
inland frost
Damn, Spark is killing it.
feral jacinth
Where was this spark last week?
cedar drum
Wtfff
unreal shell
new Deadeye can legit wipe out a team if there isn't a rein or dva to block
minor flame
new Deadeye could also wipe a team
pearl stratus
Even with a Rein
minor flame
without cover
cedar drum
What's spark's time bank?
minor flame
lmao
it only affects tanks the most
most of the time
i meant old deadeye could always8
pearl stratus
If Rein's shield is low enough the damage on Dead eye will break shield on the first hit
cedar drum
@minor flame Remember, with a Immortality on him, Deadeye is gonna be really good now
minor flame
feelsbad
pearl stratus
You still need a Zarya shield or he's still just CCable.
feral jacinth
Dmg matrix
inland frost
Wall?
cedar drum
Yes
minor flame
ok
cedar drum
Matrix
pearl stratus
Double damage/healing to projectiles.
pearl stratus
Flat double damage.
cedar drum
Amplification Matrix
minor flame
yeah double dmg healing
inland frost
Haven't played him yet.
minor flame
that sounds a little op
pearl stratus
Which is better than Ana/Mercy etc.
minor flame
yeah Baptiste ult may need to be toned down in the future
cedar drum
@minor flame For 7-8 seconds, it's a small screen too
pearl stratus
Thats it.
unreal shell
is there a damage boost cap?
cedar drum
Smaller than Rein's shield
feral jacinth
Yes
minor flame
yeah but think about it
inland frost
Because for some ungodly reason it has to download the entire client again instead of just copying the current files and adding the new patch data.
cedar drum
@unreal shell Nope. You can do over 1800 damage from a single Widow shot.
pearl stratus
I mean yes, and no.
feral jacinth
Guys
pearl stratus
Because its still just projectiles.
inland frost
Yeah, it's not very wide
unreal shell
nano, mercy boost/overcharge, damage matrix, discord
minor flame
you say that until youre in kings row defending until a baptiste comes down and makes the choke a shooting gallery
inland frost
But, he also has damn good burst healing
cedar drum
@inland frost Remember it works both ways
pearl stratus
Also you just play Sombra into Baptiste.
inland frost
Wow.
cedar drum
Your team can use
feral jacinth
Wait
inland frost
That's risky
minor flame
Sombra is the best answer
feral jacinth
Dmsg matrix is both ways?
minor flame
to everything now
cedar drum
From opposite sides
pearl stratus
Since EMP removes MAtrix, Immo, and sets all his cooldowns back to trash
cedar drum
@feral jacinth Yeah, why the fuck not?
minor flame
I suspect Sombra will be nerfed because she'll be the new scapegoat
unreal shell
i remember when sombra was useless
minor flame
instead of Brig
inland frost
I was expecting it to halve the damage of enemy projectiles.
feral jacinth
Can fire into it?
minor flame
what?
cedar drum
@inland frost It's not a barrier
pearl stratus
It only amps your team
minor flame
yeah
cedar drum
It's just a UI graphic
inland frost
Oh.
minor flame
thats pretty stupid
feral jacinth
Oh ok wtf
pearl stratus
They can shoot through it
feral jacinth
I thought he meant
minor flame
they can only shoot Immortality
pearl stratus
But it won't buff
minor flame
yeah 2 ways
inland frost
I thought that he said that Enemy projectiles got buffed too
inland frost
Which would make no sense.
pearl stratus
Immortality is not as oppressive as everyone thinks, btw
cedar drum
No
feral jacinth
^^
cedar drum
I meant...
balmy wolf
Ok boys, betting time. Who gunna take this map?
minor flame
Spark
feral jacinth
Spark
cedar drum
U guys were saying it's a small area
unreal shell
goats
inland frost
Spark.
cedar drum
I said team can use it both sides, do if u r in the middle of a fight....
unreal shell
goats will win 
balmy wolf
high iq
supple prism
think he keeps mixing up shock and spark
minor flame
GODSBBBB
inland pawn
2cp zzzzzzzzzz
minor flame
what a stall
molten skiff
fuck that team
minor flame
aww
visual glen
godsb saving ult for next map
minor flame
so back and forth
molten skiff
im quitting this league now
unreal shell
2cp LUL
inland frost
Wait, Moth uses a Split keyboard?
minor flame
Sinatraa got pretty lucky with that
balmy wolf
Spark mvp so far?
minor flame
able to sneak his way
unreal shell
huge EMP
minor flame
theres no mvp
feral jacinth
Guys
feral jacinth
Is maroon just navy red?
minor flame
im not sure what navy red looks like
balmy wolf
P much
supple prism
its like navy blue but red
inland frost
Damn, 5 minutes timebank
inland frost
That's an eternity in terms of OW
balmy wolf
I'm still disappointed mayhem keeps losing
supple prism
to be fair its super back and forth anyway
unreal shell
these fights are chaos
unreal shell
doesn't look like professional play
feral jacinth
Go a ts
inland frost
Yeah.
balmy wolf
So are they gunna play batiste when he drops or?
supple prism
cut the time in half already
minor flame
Doubt it
inland frost
I'd be down for a rework of Anubis
minor flame
Baptiste is not gonna be used very much
unreal shell
everyone just holds leftclick + w and presses Q occasionally
minor flame
he would JUST be released
balmy wolf
I think he will be in the same league as ana
inland frost
How much healing does his grenades do?
supple prism
bap?
minor flame
like 50
inland frost
I said HIS, so obviously Bap.
supple prism
something like that
inland frost
Only 50? I guess that's ok.
supple prism
his shift does 150
balmy wolf
If tf2 demo man has a health pack gun
supple prism
also, his grenades doesnt heal himself
inland frost
That's really lame.
minor flame
its a grenade launcher
supple prism
only his shift
balmy wolf
But his heal over time does
balmy wolf
Just what we need
inland frost
I'd prefer if they splashed him for like 10 HP
inland frost
I feel like i'd try to heal myself, and die so often
unreal shell
all gravs are getting eaten
sacred tree
dang it
unreal shell
even after DM nerf
balmy wolf
Damn
sacred tree
LOL
supple prism
she is actually the one that gets swapped out often
inland frost
how to make Dv.a not be in every match: Remove Infinite Ammo
supple prism
no
minor flame
no
inland frost
Problem solved.
sacred tree
what about
minor flame
awful idea
sacred tree
Soilder 76
minor flame
DM is just so useful
sacred tree
soldier*
minor flame
the thing is that Dva
balmy wolf
Can we all agree having rockets at the same time as defense matrix is bs?
minor flame
has no competition
supple prism
its ok, they are silver, they dont know balance
pearl stratus
Also you need to make Roadhog not a fat useless pile of plat playing shit.
sacred tree
exactly
pearl stratus
I swear if you play Roadhog in my games I'll report you for gameplay sabotage 9 times out of 10.
minor flame
if youre matrixing AND rocketing
sacred tree
damn
supple prism
he is
inland frost
How is Roadhog that bad? Is it just having raw HP? Or does is moveset not meta anymore?
balmy wolf
@pearl stratus he can be useful on some maps
unreal shell
they are gonna make even more broken offtank to keep dva out of every match 
inland frost
Like, Ilios he's pretty good in
sacred tree
his hook isn't accurate
minor flame
Roadhog is ineffective in a meta about high hp
sacred tree
triggered
pearl stratus
@inland frost If you don't have solid shields for him to hide behind he's basically a member of the other team
And just feeds ults like a useless piece of shit.
supple prism
and barriers
minor flame
he can be a ult battery
inland frost
Ah.
minor flame
if he doesnt do good
sacred tree
yeah
minor flame
Road has a high risk meh reward
balmy wolf
In lower levels hes pretty much unkillable if you pocket him plus his E
pearl stratus
He works in the low SR's though because people are bots.
So if you're like.. silver to plat, go nuts
minor flame
me?
sacred tree
yes
minor flame
as much as i wanna strangle other people
balmy wolf
I miss old hog. He was so broken but fun
minor flame
no
sacred tree
o h
unreal shell
i don't miss old hog lol
minor flame
im not toxic towards people directly
but if fissure starts charging into the other team with no support alone
losing seoul another match
yeah no shit ima be toxic
pearl stratus
Soldier might actually be useful on a few maps with Baptiste around.
balmy wolf
Why dont people play 76 anymore? Did I miss a meta shift?
sacred tree
same
minor flame
a top team and a meh team
sacred tree
tbh
minor flame
at the same time
unreal shell
Tactical Visor is a good ul- "BARRIER ACTIVATED"
pearl stratus
He's consistent damage with little burst.
sacred tree
I play him tho
pearl stratus
And the current meta requires burst.
minor flame
76 is outclassed in burst
pearl stratus
Like his actual damage output isn't horrible.
balmy wolf
Makes sense
minor flame
if you have good aim as soldier
you might as well switch to mccree
he just outclasses him in dmg all the way
balmy wolf
I mean a rocket fallowed by some head shots is good burst but high skill
pearl stratus
Or honestly Ashe on ladder.
minor flame
Ashe is outclassed by McCree in dmg
only thing though is that she has more utility
kinda
and Bob
unreal shell
tactical visor deals less damage than 1tapping on heads
pearl stratus
IT all depends on the enemy dva.
inland frost
Wait...
minor flame
this comp is very interesting
pearl stratus
If you can land dynamites, Ashe is more useful imo.
inland frost
Is that Melee Reload Cancel actually faster?
pearl stratus
Because the dot really fucks with healers.
balmy wolf
Bastian? Bold.
sacred tree
everyone loves rein
unreal shell
mercy solo heal o_O
minor flame
a good coalescence?
sacred tree
wt
minor flame
been so long
since ive seen it
yeah bastion comps are not gonna last long
even on route
balmy wolf
Why is IDK playing mercy?
minor flame
cause they need a res
unreal shell
for bastion
balmy wolf
Lucio now
sacred tree
@minor flame Your main?
minor flame
zen ana
sacred tree
Oh-
balmy wolf
Yo who's yall favorite / best lucio in the league?
unreal shell
why moira on this map?
inland frost
I'm Ana/Brig/Moira main
minor flame
Idk week 1 was best lucio
pearl stratus
It was to break the bunker
minor flame
now its hard to tell
sacred tree
The healers are getting love
balmy wolf
Are we all support mains? 😂
minor flame
support is more flexible than it was before
balmy wolf
I'm lucio zen and brig
pearl stratus
When goats finally goes away Brig is going to get buffed, I'm calling it now.
balmy wolf
Cant wait for baptiste
pearl stratus
So remember my post.
minor flame
Brig will get buffed
and everyone will fucking overreact
way too much again
typical reddit and twitch
balmy wolf
Brig almost ruined the game
pearl stratus
She really didn't. Shitty peopledid.
minor flame
Brig alone doesnt ruin the game
pearl stratus
If you're like.. below diamond Blizzard should lock your account from having an opinion.
balmy wolf
Not alone but it was almost the stray
pearl stratus
You don't even have a meta 99% of the time
balmy wolf
@pearl stratus dude chill
pearl stratus
I'm not even being mean.
inland frost
Maybe they should force a fucking IQ check before you play Ranked.
pearl stratus
But like.. the problems in those ranks are not th same.
inland frost
I feel like 99.99% of the people I play with are just braindead.
pearl stratus
And the buffs/nerfs required for them are way too much.
Like right now Brig is a piece of shit.
She's only good in 3:3.
minor flame
the only thing Brig will be good at after this
is 3-3 and countering tracer and genji
well
not even
Tracer outplays Brig at higher elos
pearl stratus
I mean you could just Immo blades and run a McCree.
unreal shell
hammond just melted
supple prism
Did super block that earthshatter?
pearl stratus
The houston loss was the only surprise tbh.
balmy wolf
Silver to plat is like 80 percent of the player base so if anything our opinion should matter more @pearl stratus
unreal shell
^
pearl stratus
I'd rather the opinion of the people who know how to play the game.
minor flame
its kinda like comparing a poltician to 40% of the unemployed
pearl stratus
With no offense meant
minor flame
in who should decide our laws and such
inland frost
Umm
unreal shell
unfortunately Overwatch is not a casual game anymore and Blizzard appeal to esports. that's why they listen to pros instead of majority.
pearl stratus
IT's not even that Elaxor.
inland frost
No? Because often the populace actually knows what they need.
minor flame
they listen to majority in valid reasons
pearl stratus
Even Jeff memes on Gold a bit.
Because they say things like 'NERF DIVE' but like...
You never played dive in Gold
You might pick the right heroes
inland frost
Like, Polititians are actually really bad at knowing what the real world actually needs.
balmy wolf
@pearl stratus I know the game but I don't like the toxicity and brain dead teammates in comp so I dont play. Its impossible to grind out of when you're ranked on wins and not individual performance
pearl stratus
Reaper is actually a solid pick in Silver/Gold/Plat
minor flame
so does the unemployed?
pearl stratus
But he's shit everywhere else
unreal shell
i miss beyblade
supple prism
See gold and plat are great, you can play anything and everything and make it work. The higher you go, the more people complain.
pearl stratus
The best comp for low SR is "Pick just about anything and work with your team"
inland frost
The Best comp in Silver is a motherfucking brain.
outer zenith
Let's be honest here, a majority of the playerbase has little to no knowledge of how Overwatch works.
minor flame
yeah
pearl stratus
Hell even in Masters there's rarely a meta.
inland frost
I'm convinced that everyone I played with in last season had surgery to remove their brain and replace it with a potato.
pearl stratus
Actually fuck even in GM there's not always a meta.
balmy wolf
Gold has so many hanzos and mcreees who just run in to the literal middle of the enemy team, die, and look at my ass like I didn't heal em enough
pearl stratus
Yeah but that doesn't mean you need to buff or nerf any of the heroes.
The people just need to learn to play them.
Its why that area of the game rarely understands actual balance.
inland frost
I'm surprised.
minor flame
gg spark
pearl stratus
Because their issues are so different.
minor flame
hope they improve afterwards
inland frost
Shock is gonna win this.
unreal shell
i personally rarely see goats in GM because people just know it's not fun
outer zenith
And gold rank has just as many overaggressive Tanks and unaware Support players. It's the nature of the rank system.
pearl stratus
3:3 is just when you want to try hard
balmy wolf
I gave up on grinding out of gold at this point. I got gold in like season one and keep getting placed in it. I know I play at a diamond level but the grind is too real 😂
unreal shell
people start playing goats when they get tilted
because it's like playing on easy mode
supple prism
What makes you think you play at diamond level
balmy wolf
Gg
unreal shell
"oh we lost 2 teamfights, well time to goats"
outer zenith
If you can't get out of gold after that long than the problem lies with you and nothing else.
balmy wolf
I carry my team but I guess one good support isnt enough
outer zenith
Clearly you don't, or else you would have climbed.
balmy wolf
I do placements and nothing else
supple prism
Stop thinking that you are carrying
pearl stratus
Yeah, ELOhell is an awkward lie people tell themselves.
supple prism
I have been to diamond, I dont belong in diamond
balmy wolf
I am tho. Not to be toxic but if I'm doing 90 percent of the healing
minor flame
when ppl start thinking theyre better than everyone else
outer zenith
"Elo hell is just the Elo you aren't skilled enough to carry your way out of."
minor flame
that just creates a cycle
a cycle of actual incompetence and ppl who dont realize their placing
feral jacinth
90% of the healing means nothing, just because youre doing healing doesnt mean people arent dying
pearl stratus
I spent $25 to teach one of my friends he's a fucking moron with that stuff.
I bought him a brand new account.
feral jacinth
Could just be healing the wrong people who knows
pearl stratus
And had him place on it.
supple prism
So you are good at one thing and think you are diamond?
balmy wolf
I dont think I'm better, I just think elohell is a real struggle when winning lies in the hands of 5 random people you dont knoe who never have mics
pearl stratus
And he placed lower than his main account.
$25 well spent.
To prove a point.
So now his nickname is Silver.
minor flame
ok
pearl stratus
I'm sick of the last matches of the night being the best ones.
wise thistle
gilded peak
Soe accuracy in guessing has been 99% wrong
wise thistle
just sliding this in here
pearl stratus
Can we get like..
supple prism
I'm high plat and made a second account and placed mid plat
pearl stratus
The Dallas fuel games last.
pearl stratus
Indecision on attacks with bad support ult usage.
pearl stratus
They Trans consistently After a first pick in an attempt to save.
If you go rewatch the match most of IDK's trans come after Nosmite dies.
minor flame
i dont get how you degrade after the first week
pearl stratus
When it'd be better held to steamroll the next fight
outer zenith
People claim they know the game, but then make similar comments like that, "90% healing" one. GOATS comp is the most meta in the game right now and the three supports it runs (Lucio, Brig, Zen) have the lowest overall healing output out of the entire class. Clearly there's more to the role than just healing.
supple prism
And early sound barriers
wise thistle
can we get an F in chat that until Washington wins 1 game ADO will be the longest losing streak in OWL
pearl stratus
Like I said the only loss that really surprised me was Houston
supple prism
Coolmatt is dva?
minor flame
pretty meh team all around
pearl stratus
Coolmatt is one of their D'vas yeah.
Spree has been noticeable better
But they were only playing him for one map a series
outer zenith
Soe on blast.
pearl stratus
For Spark?
pearl stratus
Tough to call honestly.
balmy wolf
Dude rawkus
pearl stratus
Oh Houston?
minor flame
unless you want me to narrow it down in like Runaway
balmy wolf
Rawkus will for sure
supple prism
Game ends and still saying wrong names
pearl stratus
I'm going to say most likely whoever manages Ana on the team.
minor flame
Shu Baptiste Main 😎
pearl stratus
Except for the first bit.
Where the teams keep trying to run 3:3
Then they'll run double hitscan players.
One for Zarya one for Bap.
balmy wolf
Unpopular opinion: I miss cswoosh. He was trash but those entrances were priceless
balmy wolf
I like his energy
pearl stratus
Little Cocks.
minor flame
lil cocks
balmy wolf
Also why did they kick logix?
minor flame
not kr(?)
balmy wolf
Oooh yea
pearl stratus
People are super PC nowadays about it, but from a business point of view an important player who has a history of requiring stage breaks is a liability.
minor flame
where do you place current Mayhem in this stage Endo?
pearl stratus
Hard to tell, they actually improve week to week and McGravy had a solid debut.
balmy wolf
Low teir with potential
minor flame
tmrw
pearl stratus
So far they've had an interesting win, and some tough teams.
balmy wolf
Dude I'm fuckin ON this mcgravy train
minor flame
I think Florida has alot of power already
BQB is definitely their starlight
and the rest are solid
minor flame
who are supports again?
pearl stratus
Hagopeun is solid, but inconsistent
minor flame
oh yeah
pearl stratus
And Kris is just mediocre.
When Hago is on, he's ridiculous
But if he's not, he's low-mid tier.
Basically he's Korean Rawkus.
balmy wolf
Kris is boring
minor flame
except Rawkus doesnt pop off like Hago huh
balmy wolf
Rawkus has a knack for choking
pearl stratus
He's not Jjonak, he has no reason to be by himself in random flank positions.
Since even Jjonak doesn't have dumb positions
minor flame
Glads vs LS, Toronto vs NYXL, Titans vs Val and Shanghai vs Chengdu
its gonna be a fun day
balmy wolf
Val cant catch a break lol
pearl stratus
Val has the toughest Stage 1 schedule of the entire league.
pearl stratus
Even if not, Chengdu should lose.
Shanghai just has better DPS players
Since YXL is still stuck in China.
pearl stratus
Decay debut.
minor flame
from Glads?
pearl stratus
Yeah his birthday was like Monday
minor flame
dont they have the same bday as McGravy
pearl stratus
Stratus
minor flame
ah
I think Glads might take it against LS but LS might be the peak of their inconsistency and surprise me
pearl stratus
I want to say Glads have the edge, but if London plays like they did versus the Spark I think London will take it.
pearl stratus
Agreed, even with Neko back
pearl stratus
Charge is honestly better than they should
With the language barriers.
It's impressive.
minor flame
who has Neko?
balmy wolf
Idk man I like the titans but something about them seems too average
pearl stratus
Toronto
pearl stratus
I don't forsee him being a huge ugprade over Aid
balmy wolf
Who has a spare acc
pearl stratus
Since Aid has been playing really well.
minor flame
no
balmy wolf
i need it for esports
minor flame
dont care
balmy wolf
ok sir
ruby pendant
lol who's gonna give you that?
balmy wolf
People that quit
I like the the team, they should have just stayed as some variant of runaway
Can anyone help me with overwatch
Is it like fortnite
minor flame
???
balmy wolf
@balmy wolf who are you
balmy wolf
A person, my school has overwatch installed
minor flame
cause you dont seem to know wtf ow is
balmy wolf
for esports tournament
minor flame
if you compare it to fortnite
outer zenith
FREE FRAGI
balmy wolf
No it's not like fortnite
No i mean like fortnite is equal, u dont need the best skins to win
is it like that?
balmy wolf
Is it like league of legends?
balmy wolf
no it isnt
Everyone is equal from the start, no pay to win
Fortnite is an equal game
balmy wolf
ye
age dosnt matter there
I think he means you cant pay to get better weapons
yes
Like battlefront
yes
can u do that ?
balmy wolf
Not in ow
minor flame
in any of those games
minor flame
it ranks your performance
balmy wolf
No more like it ranks how often you win
minor flame
thats why its loose
minor flame
your team can carry you or bring you down
balmy wolf
yeah its like bo3 and league of legends
u use some abilities
And u use them smart to win
balmy wolf
to gain getter performance
minor flame
go with what ever you think of it
balmy wolf
okay thanks
noo
i need to beat my friends
I'd recommend you just watch some overwatch vids
balmy wolf
is there a specific vid u would like to share with me?
minor flame
no
balmy wolf
ok
I watched a training guide
he told me the plot etc
Anyways thanks, i got to go
Play every hero for like 20 minutes until you find like 5 you like (try to be good at at least one hero from the 3 classes)
Ok
The video told me start with soldier
Is that good?
Sure
Him or reaper or like lucio or dva
okay thanks
all are beginner friendly but can be greatly improved on
okay
karmic grotto
graceful wind
hidden vault
Huk doesn't like them :)
upper niche
So just did some very basic evaluation of the current ladder and remaining games:
IF we assume that in all future games the team currently higher on the ladder beats their opponent, the top 6 would be NYE, VAN, PAR, ATL and TOR, with the remaining 3 spots to be between PHI, GZC, SEO, BOS, LDN and DAL.
I haven't done the analysis yet of if we looked at previous head-to-head matches. (eg, if C plays A, and C has already played B and so has A, did A beat B and did C beat B?
forest raven
balmy wolf
Shock still doing good tho almost as if stats are just a metric to put him down with 😩
balmy wolf
They should play smurf more
Is decay playing in the match against londen??
Cause he turned 18 2 days ago
sullen berry
@gaunt acorn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxXI-7dIOSI
Kris: Hold my beer 🍺
https://clips.twitch.tv/RamshackleCharmingKittenSmoocherZ
gaunt acorn
lmfao
sullen berry
watching fresh from the rerun
it's great comparing how these two flubbed this
did they both forget how it lands relative to their team or
sullen berry
true mayhem could have been more apparent
I totally had mayhem for horizon
given I have not seen a trend upward for Guangzhou on anyother map that's not map 1 control
hidden vault
I think super is fine
But they should trade one of their dps out
Probably for a korean main support
limber pine
i think the joke is that signing a korean main support would give them full korean team and a full non-korean team
pearl stratus
... What DPS would you trade out?
Sinatraa has some of the best Zarya stats in the league, he's top 5 in all categories and was first in damage.
Architect gives you your Brig/Ana flex, same as Rascal.
The only swap for Shock that makes sense to me is Nevix, but honestly him and Choi are basically the exact same.
limber pine
I think the common theory with the joke would be Babybay
pearl stratus
Then you'd just pull a Florida.
And you get to watch Saya swap to the worst Zarya attempt since Kephrii.
limber pine
lul
yeah i don't think SFS was ever considering it, especially since we've seen them use a healthy mix of korean and non-korean players
pearl stratus
They're just using who works best, tbh.
Is Super amazing? Nah. Is he top tier? Nah. Does he hold his own? Sure.
Spark aggressively focus tanks, we've seen it pretty much all season so far.
Some teams go for the Brig first, or the Zarya.
Spark go for the Rein.
hidden vault
I'm not saying moth sucks or he should be replaced, you can't expect everyone player to be in playable condition for 6 months people get injuries or fall sick
What would you do then? Play kuki as support? (Yes he's laV) or play sleepy?
limber pine
lots of teams don't have backups to all the positions
hidden vault
Yes play sleepy i know but he's a zen player there would be gaps
limber pine
London has no backup tanks at all
toxic cipher
i could join london
hidden vault
London isn't the only one
toxic cipher
london requirements should be 
hidden vault
Good luck to London and who ever doesn't have a back up
I just mentioned sfs since we are on it
5 dps doesn't make sense tbh.. a 6-6 allows for internal scrim
Plus a back up for all all roles with a just in case
stoic crater
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!schedule
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stoic crater
Nice
limber pine
feelsbad
stoic crater
whole wave
sad boi hours
balmy wolf
!tracer
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sharp kindle
!tracer
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@sharp kindle, I've sent you a DM with all my commands!
sharp kindle
!standings
solid axle
!tracer
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@solid axle, I've sent you a DM with all my commands!
solid axle
!players
somber yewBOT
Usage: !players [team] - Get the players of a specific team
solid axle
!players [San Francisco Shock]
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Usage: !players [team] - Get the players of a specific team
solid axle
wo0w
limber pine
!players SFS
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limber pine
@solid axle
solid axle
!players LAG
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No such team 'LAG', for full teams list please type !teams
solid axle
!teams
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solid axle
!players GLA
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ruby pendant
!schedule
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jagged crater
love chengdu
: jinmu nanoblade was so refreshing
even tho nanoblades used to be dime a dozen, when you see it work vs a dominantly used goats meta, it felt so good
why a diverse meta is so important for the game (spectator and gameplay wise)
even arguably the "most exciting" meta dive got stale fast
fathom acorn
That’s why I despise role queue
And I can’t understand why so many people support it
jagged crater
they desperate for something different
biggest question is if such a thing was implemented, what behavioral changes would there be in the community?
there's gonna be a new thing to complain about
jagged crater
according to jeff, that's the main thing unaccounted for
limber pine
"I queued as dps, i'm not switching to anything else"
jagged crater
how come paris only has 2 games played and philly has 5 games
supple prism
It's for low ranks who complain about 6 dps
jagged crater
paris due for some games!
supple prism
Because it is still the first stage, they will even out
jagged crater
flo-rida
tepid notch
@jagged crater there are 5 weeks in a stage and 7 games in a stage. Teams play 1 week without a game, 1 week with one game, and 3 weeks with 2 games
fathom acorn
Like, I check YouTube comments and I see everyone saying “role queue finally”
And I feel I’m in the minority of people who see this will suck for the game
I’d rather have goats and a chance for some ingenuity and interesting comps than 222 every match
limber pine
I don’t want role queue either
mint turtle
Hopefully when we get enough heroes, 2 2 2 wont be constricting
fathom acorn
@limber pine I’m glad someone else agrees
Every time I go on any vid or forum it’s only praise and it makes me sad
green stump
That's because people don't understand exactly what they are asking for @fathom acorn
Remember in the stylosa interview, many members of the community they've seen have low to no knowledge of the things they complain or demand
fathom acorn
Yeah
It’s like when they asked for a dive counter
And got brig
And then got mad cause dive was no longer viable
Blizzard learned their lesson from brig but it doesn’t look like the community has
dawn basin
Well as long as ppl get stuck they search for reasons and then come to the conclusion
Blizzard sucks
Do something
They do it
It doesnt help so blizzard did another mistake
¯_(ツ)_/¯
green stump
@fathom acorn why would they learn? As jeff said himself. They didn't want their precious dive heroes touched, they didn't want to sacrifice anything and didn't realize what they were asking for.
The community won't compromise because they don't care about the game being better, only themselves.
And yet they don't care to make themselves better, luckily it seems blizzard is learning how their community is are starting to understand how to balance for the ladder while keeping the pro meta similar
fathom acorn
Truer words have never been said
hidden osprey
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DAY 2 MATCHES
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Los Angeles Gladiators vs London Spitfire 
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Toronto Defiant vs New York Excelsior 
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undone vale
nova wadi
Twitch giving 6 ads in a row zzz
warm quartz
is it bad i dont ant to miss any of these games
tawny sigil
no emotions, best emotion
plucky rune
London is perfectly capable of running quad dps on Busan what the hell
woven hill
London is trash at getting points, but great at holding them it seems
proper cove
LA destroyed them in the 1st point but chocked on the 2nd and failed on the 3rd
And for Decay’s Debut he’s doing pretty good
proper cove
London fucking destroyed LA on that Capture
proper cove
@minor flame So far Decay is outperforming Profit by a fucking mile!
London have 3:13 to attack so LA will have to defend like shit because LA will only have a minute
Never mind
It’s a draw
gaunt acorn
soe pronouncing decay as "DK" 
supple prism
decay is drift king?
proper cove
How is Decay pronounced?
rapid bobcat
@gaunt acorn Soe also says "Dinasty" instead of "Dynasty" when talking about seoul dynasty
rapid bobcat
She's been calling them like that since the very beginning
twilit anvil
Hey guys, I'm new to overwatch. Is there a reason that they aren't using any damage heroes? How are they supposed to get kills without dps? Are they deleted or banned or something?
rapid bobcat
But will baptiste change the meta?
dark loom
No, he will fuel it.
rapid bobcat
Also, Yeast, paisley is copy pasting from twitch chat
pearl stratus
I love how bored Hydration always looks.
gilded peak
Because no DPS players are enjoying this meta.
proper cove
Even if he won the Championship he’d look like that
gilded peak
He looked a lot happier when he was doing the All-Stars
proper cove
I would send a picture of Profit vs Decay stat wise but I can’t
supple prism
oh sweet, got another 100 bonus tokens
rapid bobcat
I still have to get my 100 tokens
proper cove
Wait Fury is playing Zarya?!
How do you know you get 100 tokens and how long does it take
supple prism
in game it shows how much you have and it jumped by 100. also twitch has an inventory that says. its randomly given if you watch OWL
pearl stratus
Yeah thats' just Hydrations face.
He looked like that last season.
He just has a downsy bored face.
balmy wolf
London sharing water wut
proper cove
I fucking hate how London was playing just then, complete cancer
proper cove
It just pisses me off because I’ve played against a team like that
balmy wolf
Well teams wanna win
They don't care about strats being cancer
There's no honour in gaming
proper cove
holding them up against the respawn is just stupid and if there’s no honour it’s just boring to watch
balmy wolf
You can't expect a team to hold back just so that they can be honourable
Fury is good at the video game
gg london
astral bough
WAHEY SPITFIRE WON
balmy wolf
They looked good that match
proper cove
And Holding them up the at the respawn is kinda stupid
balmy wolf
I think this is also the first time London has won against LAG during a regular season game
tropic drift
it is
minor flame
shame i
balmy wolf
@proper cove You're retarded lol
astral bough
no one beats london
balmy wolf
apart from their first two matches
astral bough
warm up
tropic drift
shhhh