esports-discussion

[sinful heron]

Yah

[pearl stratus]

@mystic saffron To clarify I mean pure 3:3.

[ruby sable]

@mystic saffron hunters are throwing out super wild team comps thou

[pearl stratus]

If Michelle swapped to Sombra I think the results would be huge.

[feral jacinth]

^^^

[pearl stratus]

IT's what NYXL did.

It's what Shanghai did.

[mystic saffron]

mhm

[pearl stratus]

You have proof it works.

And Seouls just like 'LALALALALA YEET THIS GAME"

[mystic saffron]

dding carried on sombra they prolly woildnt have won without it

[pearl stratus]

Yeah but all you had to do was watch the Vod of Boston + Shanghai.

Er Boston vs.NYXL

And you knew instantly Boston sucks against Sombra.

So it was just a smart strat.

[mystic saffron]

yeah

[pearl stratus]

Munchkin is EMP'ing too far up, he's hiding close to his tanks because of his death record.

[mystic saffron]

and they didnt have fusions iirc

yep

[pearl stratus]

Fusions wouldn't have changed Shanghais results imo.

DDing wasn't countered for a full hour.

He just ran around like it was a plat game.

It was cringe.

[ruby sable]

boston let dding stomp all over them

[mystic saffron]

the thing is they didnt know fusions was playing until last second so that didnt exactly help

[pearl stratus]

No, it didn't help I agree .

But watching Dding play, both on Pharah and Sombra.

He wasn't being stopped that night just by a different Rein.

[ruby sable]

^^ yep

[mystic saffron]

yeah true

[pearl stratus]

Colourhex also looked really shaky his first night out.

Which is expected, first stage showing.

[mystic saffron]

was he playing vs shd?

i dont remember the lineup

[ruby sable]

i think he was

[mystic saffron]

ah

then yeah that just wasnt a good game for boston, they're looking much better now though

[ruby sable]

oh dang jecse got super outplayed as lucio

how do they got stomped by shanghai and then dunk on seoul. it's wild lol

[mystic saffron]

the universe has shifted

[pearl stratus]

Seoul refuses to adjust.

[gusty salmon]

seoul FeelsWeirdMan

[pearl stratus]

Boston, even with

Axxiom on Zarya

Looked like one of the better 3:3 teams

So why play into that.

But no, playing Sombra is apparently too hard.

[limber umbra]

dat double penetration into zen

[ruby sable]

oh my god they can't keep rjh alive

[sinful heron]

THE COUNTER STUN

STOP THE OPENING FOR SHATTER

That was tasty

Brig was hiding in the back, and Blase interupted Munchkin's stun which would have hit Fusions and opened for the shatter

[gusty salmon]

👉

[river magnet]

Undefeated, when Striker was the tracer god

[gusty salmon]

wait is fusions playing?

[ruby sable]

yeah on rein

[gusty salmon]

I thought fusions wasn't allowed to play anymore

[ruby sable]

a lot of suspensions just got lifted i think

viol2t is back too

[pearl stratus]

The league allowed him to finish his contract transfer.

[gusty salmon]

o thats nice

[sinful heron]

Why did he get suspended?

[gusty salmon]

He didnt get suspended

[pearl stratus]

Since Boston was in the process of drafting his full contract.

[sinful heron]

Oh

OH I SEE

[gusty salmon]

Two players were only allowed to play 2 games

[pearl stratus]

Boston fucked up a rule.

[gusty salmon]

but that ban got lifted it seems

[pearl stratus]

And the league let them fix it with a contract swap.

[gusty salmon]

Two-way players*

[pearl stratus]

It didn't get lifted.

They just let Boston sign him full time.

[sinful heron]

15 seconds

0 kills

[pearl stratus]

So Fusions no longer a two - way.

[gusty salmon]

kk thats good

[ruby sable]

who was fusions with before?

[gusty salmon]

that match without fusions was a disaster

[river magnet]

Contenders

[gusty salmon]

fusions was in the UK world cup team too

[pearl stratus]

Contenders, and he'd played in the most recent seaosn.

[ruby sable]

nice

[pearl stratus]

Which is why he was only allowed two games in OWL.

[ruby sable]

good for him

[pearl stratus]

Which Boston was stupid and forgot about.

[pastel grove]

did league skin colors change this season?

seems like some details are different

[pearl stratus]

There's home and away versions.

[pastel grove]

i'm not sure if i'm imagining

[pearl stratus]

Thats it.

Oh a couple of teams have slightly different colors.

Shock/LAV I think

Different hues

[supple prism]

philly and val?

[gusty salmon]

holy that slam

[sinful heron]

Oof Fusions

[pastel grove]

i just bought widow seoul skin

[mystic saffron]

they changed the skin colors too?

[pastel grove]

i swear it's different than last year

[mystic saffron]

it shouldnt be

[pastel grove]

must be my imagination

[mystic saffron]

seoul didnt change their colors

[pastel grove]

okay sorry for off topic

[pearl stratus]

Unchanged, unless you're looking at the away version

[mystic saffron]

mhm

[pastel grove]

well i know primary colors didn't change

but it seems like details did

[mystic saffron]

have any of yall bought skins with earned coins yet?

token

whatever

[river magnet]

I won 100 tokens and bought Paris Ana

Love that skin

[mystic saffron]

nice

[supple prism]

i prefer philly ana

[mystic saffron]

i bought mayhem dva because im stupid and for the memes

[sinful heron]

You do what to Ana?

[ruby sable]

i got spark soldier

had to

[river magnet]

Defiant Zen is mad too

[mystic saffron]

ooooh

[river magnet]

The white is just perfect

[mystic saffron]

spark skins are awesome

and defiant

[supple prism]

im gonna have to get reign torb

[ruby sable]

lol get it

[mystic saffron]

lmaooo

[ruby sable]

orisa looks mad good in like all the skins somehow

[supple prism]

like how i got nyxl zen

[mystic saffron]

she does

so does mccree

[ruby sable]

looolll i got nyxl zen too. you gotta

[supple prism]

i use null sector orisa just to annoy people

[mystic saffron]

i want null sector 😦

[pearl stratus]

I only get league skins for people who have no good other skins.

So I have pink ball and pink sombra.

[supple prism]

yea

[ruby sable]

like poor moira lol

[river magnet]

Sombra has great skins????

[supple prism]

i just get one of each of the league skins

[mystic saffron]

yeah sombra has some pretty good skins

imo

[pearl stratus]

She really doesn't. I don't like Scuba Sombra.

[ruby sable]

i'm never switching off azucar

[pastel grove]

sombra skins suffer from them not changing her hair color

[pearl stratus]

And her Talon skin is a fucking disaster with her plastic hair.

[mystic saffron]

scuba and rime are my favorites

[pastel grove]

and yeah, whoever asked above, i got a 100 token drop tonight

[mystic saffron]

ok yeah talon sucks

[pastel grove]

already had 99

[mystic saffron]

nice dude

[pearl stratus]

I like Pink more than Scuba.

[pastel grove]

i've got like 30 or so skins now

[mystic saffron]

I have uhhh

[ruby sable]

pink definitely better than scuba

[mystic saffron]

like 14 total I think

[ruby sable]

only 86 to go

oh jk misread

[river magnet]

Wow both gravs gone lol

[pearl stratus]

Lmao

What a shit show

[mystic saffron]

rip

[pearl stratus]

Just all mirror ults

[ruby sable]

that was so much nothing

[clear crane]

that double grav eat

niceeeee

[pearl stratus]

Even the D'va bombs landed in the same spot

[mystic saffron]

i forgot what game it was but last week like half of the gravs in the match were eaten

[gilded peak]

I think that was Shock vs Titans?

[mystic saffron]

maybe?

[gilded peak]

Lots of big plays from Zarya and Jannukes

[mystic saffron]

idk but almost every grav in first point was eaten

yuh

[ruby sable]

i'm so tired of 3-3 i almost miss genji

[mystic saffron]

yeah

[gilded peak]

I miss DPS heroes...

[mystic saffron]

i miss seeing dps players on dps heroes

[river magnet]

Next patch, it's probably gone 😁

[mystic saffron]

hope so

[ruby sable]

takes a patch like that 3ish weeks to hit live play usually

then who knows how long before we see teams drop 3-3

[river magnet]

Outlaws winning next season, Jakerat ✌

[ruby sable]

lollll i miss jakerat

[mystic saffron]

new patch does seem like itll hurt goats a lot, but probably wont kill it yet

sadly

[gilded peak]

Doubt next patch will do it

[supple prism]

doesnt need to kill, just weaken

[gilded peak]

But I wonder, when a new patch comes out, will they play with the new patch or wait til next stage?

[ruby sable]

the patch notes released today pretty much just nerf 3-3 heroes

@gilded peak good q

[river magnet]

Zarya Lucio and Zen getting nerfed it shouldn't be played Anymore

They always play the new patches in the next stage

[mystic saffron]

nah itll be played but itll be easier to play against

yeah

[ruby sable]

yeah i think that plus junkrat and mccree buffs might do it

[mystic saffron]

i just wanna see my man flower

[ruby sable]

they should have just buffed sombra to kill it lol

come on flower!!!!!!

[inland pawn]

this lady needs to chill lmao

[clear crane]

lol solo shatter

[gilded peak]

How come we never hear a dude shout?

[pearl stratus]

Oh... you think Flower is going to play?

[supple prism]

sombra already ruins it

[mystic saffron]

not with goats lmao

[tawny sigil]

equalizer

[pearl stratus]

Not with DPS either mostlikely.

He's just welfare Libero now,.

[ruby sable]

😢

[pearl stratus]

The 7 drooped and fell over and became a 9

Since we're not in 2017 anymore.

When he mattered.

[ruby sable]

damn

[pearl stratus]

Too many injuries he ignored for too long.

His new arm aiming set his plateau in not a good spot.

[mystic saffron]

yeah true

[pearl stratus]

Meanwhile Nenne is just tearing shit up.

[ruby sable]

Nenne is fucking killing it

[mystic saffron]

yup

[ruby sable]

i know meko and mano take the spotlight but that dude can fucken play

[pearl stratus]

I feel its more Meko.

Mano is kind of just the dude who just gets shit done.

Not a lot of chatter.

Just does his job, does it well.

[ruby sable]

yeah they just synergize so well

[pearl stratus]

Meko out there flexing out to Sombra and other dpsnow.

[ruby sable]

oh please don't let this go to 5 maps

[clear crane]

bastion again lol

[pearl stratus]

Right now though my favorite OT flex is probably Hotba.

His Tracer is just so good from a D'va.

[clear crane]

lmfao fleta

[gilded peak]

Wow, that strat finally worked for Seoul???

[river magnet]

👀

[ruby sable]

yeah Hotba is fun to watch

[clear crane]

has tat strat worked once yet

[pearl stratus]

I'm not a fan of that comp.

Brig is too scuffed for duo healing.

Ironically right now brig is in a situation where she needs to be buffed, but can't be.

Because she's great in 3:3.

And garbage in two support.

[ruby sable]

lol munchkin

[gilded peak]

Nope, but first time it held for 1 min and 30 sec lol

Usually it gets destroyed from a first push

[river magnet]

If goats is killed, you'll never see brig in pro play again 😂

[ruby sable]

yeah at least until she gets a buff that makes her a better off healer

also *when goats is killed we're speaking that shit into existence

[ruby pendant]

possibily, Brig's stun is pretty valuable

[pearl stratus]

Nah she's garbage in a 2:2:2. Doesn't do nearly enough

[gilded peak]

Munchkin emp is just horrible

[river magnet]

He hasn't hit either support once lol

[limber umbra]

munchkin doesnt know how to emp smh

[ruby sable]

seriously though

[gilded peak]

May as well just solo ult on a Zen to get a kill

That's worth more than any Munchkin EMP.

[ruby sable]

you think all these guys live with carpal tunnel

[whole mulch]

Eh it's possible some of them may have it

but I'm guessing most of them don't use insanely high sens to put strain on their wrists, and instead they aim with their arms

[gilded peak]

Remember when Flow3r played with a messed up wrist? Those were good memories

[mystic saffron]

yeah you apparently arent supposed to aim with your wrist

[ruby sable]

dang some disappointing self destructs tonight

[gilded peak]

Not just self-destructs. the whole game

[river magnet]

Yeah both teams are proper disappointing today

[gilded peak]

How was Philly vs Justice?

[ruby sable]

not that great i didn't think

[mystic saffron]

that eat was good on michelles part

[ruby sable]

i'm hype about tomorrow's match ups though

[river magnet]

Dynasty actually threw that game, not once did Michelle play Sombra 😂

[worn hornet]

So...I thought Fusions wasn't eligible to play again until Stage 2

[supple prism]

tomorrows? why

[gilded peak]

Someone said they gave him a full contract

Unless they used his 2nd game and can no longer play til stage 2.

[worn hornet]

pretty sure he played the first 2

[supple prism]

he has, they are allowing him since they are or have put him in a full contract

[worn hornet]

so I guess the one-way contract probably went through

[river magnet]

That emp should be hitting Zen there, he moved after it went off but it was just awful placement from munchkin

[tepid notch]

Hey could 2 people with the all access pass dm me

[opal spruce]

Shanghai now has a transitive win over Seoul

[tepid notch]

I'm looking for 2 POV vods from a game tomorrow

If someone willing to record, please DM me

[supple prism]

what game

[tepid notch]

Vancouver vs Valiant. I'm looking for a first person vod recording for SeoMinSoo and Bumper

[ruby pendant]

games been really boring

today

only been skimming a few, there were some highlights though

[tepid notch]

Yeah today is sleeper matches

[upper niche]

Can you run multiple OWL viewer clients with the same bnet account?

[ruby pendant]

yes

[gaunt acorn]

you mean via all-access pass?

yes

or

[upper niche]

Okay, so why not either run multiple clients or even multiple VMs to capture that video?

[gaunt acorn]

people do

[tepid notch]

I a) do not have a PC yet

and b) have AAP

[upper niche]

Okay, well a) makes it difficult.

[tepid notch]

Currently waiting for a new mobo, mine came DOA

[upper niche]

Mind you, now that I think about it how would GeForce handle doing that? Since it means you'd have multiple clip regions - my guess is that performance would go to shit running multiple renders even without their own VMs sharing the hardware.

Quadro would be fine though.

[tepid notch]

That's why I'm asking a few people, so as to get one vod from each person

So that there isn't any hardware constraints

[upper niche]

Well, I'm not sure how performance would be. And if you only wanted say 720p@30fps, I'm sure a 1070 would piss that in.

[tepid notch]

Once I've got my new mobo I'll record POVs on my own but for now I'm just looking to see if anyone is able

Yeah that works for me, I don't need anything top tier

Just something I can actually analyze

[upper niche]

Gee, if only Overwatch actually had a replay file format 😦

[inland pawn]

are the players entering from the side cus no ones in the audience? LOL

[tepid notch]

:(

I'm sure @inland pawn

Today is all sleeper matches

[upper niche]

Seriously what the hell are they thinking, they have the world cup viewer now, clearly that uses network data, at this point how hard can it be to stream that data from a file as your IO stream rather than a TCP/UDP stream?

[inland pawn]

hangzhou aint sleeper cmonBruh

[upper niche]

ugh. my head will explode if I think about this too much.

[inland pawn]

u see that hot pink?

[tepid notch]

I don't understand why they can't just let you use AAP to watch perspectives after the stream

I can't always catch matches but I wanna see POV vods

[hidden vault]

Why didn't boston played Axxiom?

[inland pawn]

DPS characters PogU

[supple prism]

because they wanted to run their starting lineup

[tepid notch]

But yeah, anyways, DM me if you have AAP and are able/willing to record a vod of either SeoMinSoo or Bumper's POV tomorrow night ❤

[hidden vault]

Axxiom isn't part of their starting line up?

And why is apply playing tho?

Do they want to use up his matches?

[inland pawn]

PogShu

[gaunt kernel]

hey guys, quick question: What are "3x OWL Tokens"? Cuz I got awarded them and I have no idea what they are

[mystic saffron]

you get 3 tokens for every hour of watch time

that's probably what it means

[gaunt kernel]

.... oh . It used to just say that I was awarded 3 every hour. Guess it's more concise now

thanks. That makes sense!

[gaunt acorn]

they've changed the name of the drops like 4 times already

it keeps creating new stacks in my twitch inventory

https://i.imgur.com/vfP8YYh.png

[solar trout]

https://i.imgur.com/vKwH6p8.png

[gaunt acorn]

oh i got another 100 drop today

[solar trout]

I have no clue what is from this season

[ruby pendant]

@gaunt acorn how you getting so lucky??

[hidden vault]

overwatch league DRIP

[gaunt acorn]

@ruby pendant i mean that's only 2 since the season started

[solar trout]

oof with those gravs

mcgravy earning his salary

[ruby sable]

What's AAP?

oh all access pass?

[supple prism]

yea

[ruby sable]

@tepid notch I can hook you up but idk how to record a vod

[tepid notch]

Just use some kind of screen recording software while watching one of the POVs

[minor flame]

wow

florida is decent?

[solar trout]

yeah

[north basalt]

mcgravy didnt die once 😃

[solar trout]

BQB is really good, and mcgravy did well that game

ate 2 gravs

[north basalt]

yeah

[tepid notch]

Florida underrated tbh

[jagged crater]

mcGRAVY

[feral jacinth]

Wtf keis

Kris

[limber pine]

swon's winston is pretty terrible

[supple prism]

this stage is weird

[jagged crater]

just noticed swon is butcher

[unreal shell]

Kris

[supple prism]

fuel vs shd twice and titans vs charge twice?

[jagged crater]

prob a conference thing

[trim shadow]

Kris did a massive oof

Shouldve been practicing your lucio hops before the game

[minor flame]

kyb waste of raly

[upper niche]

Man, at this rate I'm gonna leave work before OWL matches are over and miss out on tokens! 😦

[minor flame]

hotba eyy

[supple prism]

they put the names on the wrong side of the shoulder

just sits in the fold

what

[feral jacinth]

Mayhem throwing

Ez

[minor flame]

Chara has been getting picked way too much

[serene tendon]

screaming fangirls are just getting worse

[minor flame]

HAPPY

[limber pine]

i can't believe florida almost lost that

[copper solstice]

I will take it as I will see 100% more Mei in my comp matches from that match.

[supple prism]

still, i didnt like the mei choice

[minor flame]

mei shouldve switched after 1st point

was practically useless entirety of second

until that one blizzard

[upper niche]

Oh ffs, these ads, raaaaaage

[supple prism]

use an ad blocker

[opal spruce]

is this the last match or is there still another?

[upper niche]

adblock doesnt work on owl.com for twitch ads.

[trim shadow]

use the app i dont get ads

[minor flame]

when your tanks fail

rely on eileen

oh god

wjustice v london flashbacks

so many ults no deaths

[inland frost]

Watching my first OWL match, holy crap the headset quality is CRAZY compared to CS:GO Esports

Those are like, pilot headsets for planes.

[minor flame]

thats gg

yeah theyll have to be bulky

audience is loud

[inland pawn]

what audience?

LUL

[minor flame]

stadium doesnt separate audience cheer

with players that well

[inland frost]

Yeah, but CS:GO E-Sports uses like standard headsets, some using Openbacks

It's really weird.

I'm actually really sad about the push for OWL

I wanted a bigger push for HOTS E-Sports

[supple prism]

still one more match

[inland frost]

Not saying OWL is bad, but I think HOTS E-Sports is more interesting.

But RIP HOTS...

[fathom acorn]

Hots had mediocre reception

[inland frost]

That was a crazy Sleep Dart

[fathom acorn]

My friend would constantly shit on it

[trim shadow]

imagine hots with owl format

[fathom acorn]

Never got into it myself

[inland frost]

That'd fix all the problems with it.

HOTS is an easier to play League

[trim shadow]

i would rather watch that then the slugg fest that is owl season 2

hots is more team focused then most of the mobas and is hella more fun to watch then owl

[inland frost]

RIP, my home town is just barely above Mayhem.

[trim shadow]

hots is probably one of the best mobas ever made

[inland frost]

I'm an H-Town native.

[fathom acorn]

@trim shadow that’s a pretty hot take

[trim shadow]

match of the week sparck vs shock

[inland pawn]

[trim shadow]

im scared to pick the sparck

[fathom acorn]

Idk if a lot of people would agree with you there

[inland frost]

Ooh, nice. Outlaws are playing Mayhem on Saturday

[trim shadow]

oh my fucking godd seoul lost to boston?

uk what im not skipping anymore matches

[fathom acorn]

I want shock to win

[inland frost]

I haven't really gotten into the OWL scene

[fathom acorn]

I skipped matches today cause none of my favorite teams played

[inland frost]

It's weird to have teams named with like, Cities.

[opal spruce]

it is 9pm in LA on a thursday and theres still another match, bruh]

[trim shadow]

its midnight in atlanta and theres another match

[opal spruce]

i like the city names, alot easier to find a team to root for

[supple prism]

@inland frost why

[fathom acorn]

I love the names

[inland frost]

Because in all other E-Sports leagues it's a special team name.

[inland pawn]

@trim shadow got school tomorrow but still gotta watch

[fathom acorn]

I don’t have school tomorrow

[inland frost]

Like Cloud9, or NaVi

[fathom acorn]

@inland pawn how do you have school? Just graduate 5head.

[trim shadow]

ill be able to catch most of the matches saturday

since im not working

i am working tommorow so ill mis some

[inland frost]

I'm definitely catching the saturday game Mayhem vs Outlaws

[inland pawn]

@inland pawn cus motherfuckas wanna do group assignments on days that i dont have class -_-

[trim shadow]

reign vs eternal

[inland frost]

Gotta rep my hometown.

[trim shadow]

im ready for upset city

[opal spruce]

im gonna miss the 1 dallas game thanks to work, felsbadman

[supple prism]

they are trying to get a bigger audience by using cities

[trim shadow]

eternal are gonna get a run for there money

[supple prism]

the average folk

[fathom acorn]

I’m rooting for reign

Though I think Paris will definitely be a tough opponent

[inland frost]

Hmm...

[fathom acorn]

Have they even lost yet?

[trim shadow]

they lost to the fusion by a point

[supple prism]

2-0

[inland frost]

I don't know anything about either Spark or Shock

[inland pawn]

charge, spark and shock haHAA

[inland frost]

Aren't they both new teams?

[trim shadow]

yes

[minor flame]

shock?

[trim shadow]

well sparck is new

shock isnt

[minor flame]

old

[inland frost]

Oh, Shock is Season 1

[fathom acorn]

Spark will win I think

Even though that could be bad for London in the standings

[minor flame]

if Spark is week 1 ver

[inland frost]

Spark is 2-2, so it would make sense.

[fathom acorn]

Which will make me sad

[minor flame]

theyll win

if Spark is week 2 ver

theyll lose

[supple prism]

shock is higher on some peoples power rankings

[trim shadow]

london beat the sparck so i dont see how

[inland pawn]

sinatraa looking like jiren out here 👽

[trim shadow]

ppl rate the shock high because of how insane there dps are

[fathom acorn]

London vs LA Glads on Saturday I think

London should take that if they continue to play how they’ve been playing

[minor flame]

ehh

i think Glads has a better chance than London

London is basically inconsistency at its prime

[inland frost]

Where are all of these matches taking place at?

[minor flame]

LA

[inland frost]

Ah.

[fathom acorn]

Nah, with profit on the zarya and guard in for birdring

They have been doing a lot better

[inland frost]

Hmm, I do like Shock's sponsor.

Sennheiser makes amazing Audio products

[gilded peak]

Why does Monte believe that Shock is one of the best team?

[minor flame]

you say that but London proves time after time

to so inconsistent

Monte ranked Shock at no3

on his power rankings

[fathom acorn]

We’ll have to see

[opal spruce]

theyre all in LA until the ultimate weekend in Dallas

[minor flame]

which I think is a little too high

theyre more like a 6

or 5

[fathom acorn]

If there’s one thing this season has proved it’s to expect the unexpected

[inland pawn]

[gilded peak]

They lose this and theyll be number 12 then

[visual glen]

PINK BOYS LEGGO

[inland pawn]

GOD

XUE

[outer zenith]

I can't be the only one who thinks that Smurf looks like Dr. Octopus...

[inland frost]

Wow, they didn't even say who sponsors Spark.

[minor flame]

the lack of krystal is disappointing

its pretty unfortunate

[fathom acorn]

I somewhat prefer this season just cause of how many upsets we’ve seen

[trim shadow]

i will be severly depressed if sparck drops this match

[inland frost]

Oh god.

That's...

Wow.

4 Korean Speakers and 1 Chinese.

*5

That's...

[minor flame]

theres 2 chinese speakers

[inland frost]

Why would you ever do that?

[minor flame]

Krystal and Guxue

[inland frost]

Oh, it's 4 and 2

[minor flame]

Krystal however has a

eye infection?

so he cant play

[fathom acorn]

Oh

[visual glen]

[fathom acorn]

Fuck

[inland frost]

Still, bad idea.

[fathom acorn]

That sucks

Not really

[minor flame]

Guxue still plays well with rest of Spark

[inland frost]

Even if they all know English, it's a 2nd language to both sets of speakers.

[outer zenith]

The fun of upsets is that they're unexpected, that's what makes them upsets. If they just become the norm, like they have been so far, it's going to get a bit tedious in time.

[inland frost]

And, as a Communication major, I can actually finally talk about something related to my major.

[opal spruce]

you know like 2/3 of OWL is korean right?

[hidden vault]

Ask Guxue to speak korean..

[inland pawn]

just speak korean LOOOOOOOL 4HEad

[fathom acorn]

That’s the thing though

[inland frost]

The shot calling is gonna be significantly worse when you have to speak in a non-native language.

[hidden vault]

Guxue has to learn korean

[opal spruce]

my guy, youd be surprised

[inland frost]

Also, Spark's colors are OBNOXIOUS

[trim shadow]

maybe guxue learned korean

[minor flame]

wow

youre like

the entire opposite

[inland pawn]

spark's colours are godlike

[minor flame]

of the public

[inland pawn]

wtf

[inland frost]

Holy fuck those are really obnoxious colors.

[minor flame]

Spark best scheme

[hidden vault]

It's not 3 chinese 3 koreans?

[minor flame]

shut you up

[trim shadow]

pretty sure the sparck have sold the most merch out of any team

[minor flame]

3 chinese 3 koreans?

[hidden vault]

And they should learn chinese too

[fathom acorn]

You dare come in to our house

[minor flame]

are you counting Sasin?

[inland frost]

Yeah, because people have no taste.

[minor flame]

Sasin is KR

i think

[fathom acorn]

And insult the colors of our adorable spark boys

[inland frost]

Also, how is Shock not the "Home Team"?

[minor flame]

who says your taste isnt shit too lmao

[inland frost]

They are literally in California.

[minor flame]

why do you question this so much

[trim shadow]

the shock arent the valiant or gladiators

[minor flame]

holy shit

[trim shadow]

theyre not based in los angeles where the arena is

[fathom acorn]

people have no taste

[inland frost]

I mean, my favorite color is Purple, like deep purple.

[visual glen]

rip

[inland frost]

Also RIP Spark

[outer zenith]

Have the LA based teams always been the home teams in their games against outsiders?

I've never paid attention.

[minor flame]

no?

[outer zenith]

I would hope not.

[inland frost]

That... makes no sense why they aren't the home team in LA games

It's literally their physical home.

[opal spruce]

cause all the games take place in LA

[tawny sigil]

home team doesnt mean anything

[minor flame]

yeah

[tawny sigil]

its just the order

[minor flame]

it means absolutely nothing

in a esports

[inland frost]

Then why have the color diferentiation?

Just have both teams use their native colors.

[trim shadow]

dallas atlanta and the valiant have home games this season

[opal spruce]

cause saome teams are both blue?

[tawny sigil]

shit tons of team ahve the same color

[minor flame]

yeah

[tawny sigil]

you want 2 blue team?

[minor flame]

some have the same color but different values

[inland frost]

Then if it's a color conflict then change.

[minor flame]

it can get confusing

holy shit

[opal spruce]

its the same in irl sports?

[minor flame]

just change 4head

yeah make everything so different

thats way more complicated

[inland frost]

But Shock and Spark don't have conflicting colors.

[gilded peak]

Oh wow, empty stadium

[minor flame]

its just better to uniform all matches like that

[outer zenith]

Exactly. They don't really travel outside of LA, meaning that Glads and Valiant would almost never use anything but home colors. Rather silly.

[inland frost]

Yeah, but it doesn't logically work that well with it being a "Home" vs "Away" system

Either make it work more like American Handegg where they travel often for games.

[gilded peak]

More money for Blizzard when they put in Home and Away

They should have just not let too many teams wear Red...

[minor flame]

its the system that integrates the best

[inland frost]

Or rename the "Home" vs "Away" to some kind of thing that makes more sense.

[opal spruce]

you know not every city can support esports arenas right?

[minor flame]

what

[inland frost]

Any city with a Basketball arena can support E-Sports

[minor flame]

Native to Not Native?

lmao

[inland frost]

And any Hotel Hall can be used for E-Sports

[minor flame]

hotel hall

lol

[opal spruce]

boy let me tell you right now that the american airlines center in dallas could not do it

[inland frost]

Conference Hall.

[minor flame]

i think you should stop worrying about such minor things

[opal spruce]

theyre having to use a big ass event center when they come to dallas

[minor flame]

and making such complicated suggetions to them

[inland frost]

I'm skeptical that the American Airlines Center can't support an E-Sports match...

[visual glen]

odd beat

[inland frost]

Just put it in the basketball court.

[opal spruce]

cause they planned too early and didnt wanna use the millions of dollar esports arena they just built

[trim shadow]

Atlanta is probably using the world congress center for there home game

or maybe the csgo arena

[inland frost]

Atlanta has a CS:GO Arena?

[trim shadow]

e leauge

[inland frost]

Ah

I'd expect them to use the Eleague center.

[trim shadow]

e leauge has more then cs go for games as well

[inland frost]

Houston has like 10 places they could use for E-Sports

[trim shadow]

but cs go is the main thing

[minor flame]

csgo had years

to flourish

and build itsself as a staple fps

for the entire genre

[fathom acorn]

Rolled and smoked

[opal spruce]

it also comes down to the owners of the venues

[inland frost]

George R Brown Convention Center, NRG Arena, NRG Stadium, Toyota Center, etc.

[trim shadow]

csgo had there prime wayyyy back in 2014-2015

and now csgo is dry

esports and base game

[fathom acorn]

Rolled and fucking smoked

[minor flame]

CSGO is dry but theyre still at OW levels

which mean dont expect OW to be that big

unless it makes some changes

[trim shadow]

its the same thing same maps same guns and it just gets borin

[fathom acorn]

@minor flame I think OW is more popular

[inland frost]

I think CS:GO feels less boring because there's more solo capable plays.

[minor flame]

OW is more popular to the casual crowd

CSGO feels

boring

its mostly alot of downtime until the first pick

[inland frost]

You can see virtuosic players even more in CS:GO than you can in OW.

[opal spruce]

csgo is like siege, fun to play boring to watch

[minor flame]

yeah

[gilded peak]

Isn't CS fans more for the hard core people?

[inland frost]

Siege watching is weird.

They use some weird camera angles.

[minor flame]

a tactical game where you have to think about every move and alot of downtime

[fathom acorn]

CSGO has a lot of normie and hardcore fans

[minor flame]

thats not very entertaining to watch

thats why a lot of people dont like battle royale esports

as shitty as it sounds it exists

[inland frost]

BR E-Sports is BORING

[minor flame]

theres so much downtime but theres no tacticality

[inland frost]

Except maybe Apex

[fathom acorn]

Battle royales don’t work as E-Sports

[inland frost]

Apex kinda works.

[minor flame]

Apex might havea chance

to be a esports

[fathom acorn]

Maybe

[trim shadow]

i find myself falling asleep alot on pubg esports like a couple months back

[supple prism]

boring to watch and not even that fun to play

[minor flame]

its more ability and player skill usage

[inland pawn]

csgo is more fun to play than ow imo cus theres are no abilities to close the skill

[fathom acorn]

But I still don’t like apex all too much

[inland frost]

OUCH, RIP Shock in Map 1

[inland pawn]

gap

[inland frost]

That well knockback

Ugh, that statement from Intel is so bullshit.

[fathom acorn]

Shock got rolled and smoked

[inland frost]

an i7-9700k can't Stream, Record, AND play all at the same time.

[trim shadow]

omen and the i7 are overrated

[supple prism]

really?

[fathom acorn]

You sure?

[inland frost]

not with x264 Encoding

[trim shadow]

thats why i bought a acer nitro over a dell 15

[minor flame]

im using omen and its not that bad

[inland frost]

With NVENC you could.

[minor flame]

i tried acer first

acer blackscreened for perm

[inland frost]

Acer Desktops are trash.

[minor flame]

after a few days of use

[supple prism]

my 5 year old i5 can

[minor flame]

so i had to switch to omen

[inland frost]

And their laptops are pretty good

[trim shadow]

the acer nitro is a laptop

[inland frost]

Omen boxes are meh.

[supple prism]

just lower settings

[minor flame]

Omen laptops

are decent

for laptops

[fathom acorn]

I have an omen laptop

[inland frost]

Omen laptops get overshadowed by significantly better options

[fathom acorn]

Never had a problem with it

[minor flame]

im fine with my omen rn

[inland frost]

15 or 17?

[fathom acorn]

Everything works how I want it to work

[minor flame]

15 or 17??

[inland frost]

Size.

Omen 15 or Omen 17?

[minor flame]

i forgot

ummm

15?

[fathom acorn]

I think mines a 17

But I honestly don’t know

[gilded peak]

Is it big? Or is it really big?

[inland frost]

Hmm... The top tier 17 is... really competitively priced actually.

[gilded peak]

If its really big, then its 17

[fathom acorn]

Probably 15 then

I don’t think it’s really big

It’s just big

[minor flame]

super

super ehhhhh

rascal

is good

[inland frost]

holy crap, the Omen 17 with the i7 8th Gen, 1070, and 32GB RAM is REALLY competitively priced.

Sorry for derailing the convo.

Ouch, Shock has lost 3 control maps in a row.

RIP Shock in Wave 1.

They should use the Pharah option

Spark has really only 1 option for nullifying Pharah

And that's Dv.a

[minor flame]

bebe exists

[inland frost]

What does Bebe play?

[minor flame]

Zen

[inland frost]

Zen isn't a direct Pharah counter.

Yeah, he has super fast projectiles.

[minor flame]

no but zen can still fight a pharah

especially under rein shield

and ria matrix

[inland frost]

That is true.

[supple prism]

pharah usually has mercy

[inland frost]

Yeah, but you can stull use Pharah without Mercy.

*still

[minor flame]

terrible idea

especially in owl

an unhealed pharah is practically a dead one

unless shes peeking

we back to week 1 spark

finally

[gilded peak]

And Shock is supposed to be top tier?

[minor flame]

Shock has shown themselves to be good

not exactly top tier

[hollow mulch]

Shock is getting massacred

[minor flame]

but good

[hollow mulch]

Rip them

[minor flame]

they put up a decent fight against Runaway

[cedar drum]

"That was truly awful from the shock"

"that was like my plat games"

Jesus.....oof..

[gilded peak]

Monte must be upset how his power rank is just completely wrong?

[hollow mulch]

He speaks the truth

[minor flame]

power rankings are always messy in this stage

an upset can happen any time

in this meta too

[cedar drum]

SUPER TRASH indeed

San Francisco Shit

[feral jacinth]

Wtf shock full held

[minor flame]

spark*

[inland frost]

Do new Heroes get added into the OWL during the season, or do they have to wait until the next season for all of the new heroes to get added?

[feral jacinth]

Twitch person “DF lost to this”

[minor flame]

yes

[feral jacinth]

OOF

[minor flame]

they get added

mid stage

no

[inland frost]

Ok

[minor flame]

after stages

so after this stage playoffs

baptiste patch can come in

[inland frost]

2 week wait after release?

[minor flame]

and itll be a fuckfest

[inland frost]

Ah.

Is he gonna shake the meta?

[minor flame]

not really

but they made a huge patch

[inland frost]

You don't think?

[minor flame]

to about half of the heroes

[inland frost]

Oh

[minor flame]

basically making goats much weaker

and making dive weaker too

[inland frost]

goats?

[minor flame]

goats is basically the community word for 3-3

[inland frost]

Oh

[supple prism]

what is this

[minor flame]

3-3 originated in a contenders team comp

[gilded peak]

Merry go round, lol

[minor flame]

called Goats

[inland frost]

Thank god 3-3 meta is so cancer.

[visual glen]

overwatch

[minor flame]

3-3 is passable

its fun to watch imo but

in times its no one dies

[inland frost]

The game should be 2-2-2

[minor flame]

and its

suffocating

[trim shadow]

its not fun to watch

[minor flame]

2-2-2 is limiting

way too limiting

[trim shadow]

the only thing entertaining about 3-3 is dva bombs

[minor flame]

2-2-2 removes the unorthodox comps

[inland frost]

Yeah, but you see more than just the same fuckin 2 sets of characters.

[supple prism]

no

[minor flame]

ironically this meta stage 1

has been more diverse than last years

[supple prism]

2-2-2 will just lead to other issues and other metas

[minor flame]

2-2-2 is linear and short term solving sure

but it removes alot of the fun of good comps

because good comps are usually out of the 2-2-2

[inland frost]

Yeah, but at least you get your Damage characters in the meta.

[visual glen]

what the heck is this match

[inland frost]

I saw I think 1 character from Damage last game.

And that was Mei

[supple prism]

sombra

[minor flame]

there was widow

game 1

[supple prism]

pharah

[inland frost]

Oh, right there was Widow Game 1, and Sombra.

[supple prism]

tracers

[inland frost]

I still don't understand how Sombra is usable in OWL

[opal spruce]

it also depends on the map, some maps favor dps others dont

[inland frost]

She's so bad...

[minor flame]

are you plat

[opal spruce]

sombvra is no where close to bad

[inland frost]

No, i'm in Silver.

[supple prism]

mmm

[minor flame]

explains alot more

[opal spruce]

mmmm

[inland frost]

Mostly due to knuckledragging idiots in Silver.

[gilded peak]

The fu was this?

[inland frost]

I'm not the best player out there

[trim shadow]

and on this episode of choke city

[visual glen]

"great series"

[cedar drum]

What was that map

[minor flame]

Sombra in pro play is probably one of the best heroes

she practically removes abilities from heroes

[trim shadow]

one of the greatest holds ive ever seen

w h a t

[inland frost]

But, I feel like i'm playing with 2 year olds when i'm playing in Comp.

[gilded peak]

Did they really spent nearly 2 minutes doing the merry go round?

[trim shadow]

you just called this map a plat game

[opal spruce]

you need to watch Fitzyhere play sombra

[minor flame]

nah

watch Shanghai v Boston

[cedar drum]

The fuck is going on

[minor flame]

dding set a new record for sombra hacks

[visual glen]

That was horrible to watch

[inland frost]

Yeah, this match literally could have not happened.

The prior map was pretty intense

But this one was basically a curbstomp

[minor flame]

a curb stomp ehhhh

a absolute mess?

yeah

Spark had every right to win

they just didnt

they basically choked

thats the problem with letting teams take a tick or two

it may seem minor

but it can bite you in the ass much later

[inland frost]

Why are they standing there?

They don't get a desk?!?

OWL Bad, HGC Good

[minor flame]

its hard to tell why

best thing i can see

is the screen in the back

[unreal shell]

these last 4 teams looked like plats. must be because goats is such a braindead meta.

[supple prism]

...

[minor flame]

this is silver talk

goats braindead meta

pepega

yeah do i wanna be a pro playeri n this meta where if i make 1 mistake i could cost my team so much

[unreal shell]

missed 1 sound barrier - lost the match

[inland frost]

TBH, I think HGC had a better production value than OWL has right now.

[minor flame]

Actiblizz had some layoffs

so their production has lowered

[inland frost]

These poor people are being forced to stand up

Where's the HGC room?

[supple prism]

they have a giant screen

[inland frost]

Why didn't that get re-purposed for OWL?

[gilded peak]

Dammit, Soe is going for Sparks. Shock is winning this now.

[inland frost]

Shock totally is gonna win.

[minor flame]

didnt Soe root for Shanghai?

and they won

[inland frost]

Whoops

Meant Spark

Not Shock

[gilded peak]

Anybody will root for the underdog.

[inland frost]

Spark's gonna win

[minor flame]

the underdog rn

is Spark

[inland frost]

No way

[minor flame]

in rankings technically

[inland frost]

Oh

[minor flame]

they had a atrocious week 2

so theyre down alot

[inland frost]

In this game though? spark is dominating

[gilded peak]

Ranking don't matter if team loses

[supple prism]

no

[inland frost]

Or, they were in Map 1

[gilded peak]

Spitfire is supposedly #1, yet look at them.

[inland frost]

Map 2 they got a little cocky.

[minor flame]

in Dive

this is 3-3

[supple prism]

nyxl and titans are top 2

[minor flame]

Spitfire was #1 barely

by almost luck

[supple prism]

spit more or less got lucky

[gilded peak]

Soe % of guessing has also been horrible too

[minor flame]

Spitfire was a good team in season 1

they suffered from inconsistencies though

this meta is not for Spitfire

[gilded peak]

This meta is not for anybody who has damn good DPS in their team.

It shines for tanks & supports

[inland frost]

Yeah.

[unreal shell]

this meta is for tank and support mains LUL

no aim needed

[supple prism]

dude

[gilded peak]

Slight aim needed

[minor flame]

4head i think dive was best meta

[gilded peak]

Dive was really fun to watch.

[inland frost]

I feel sorry for the casters right now.

[supple prism]

only like 2 or 3 of the heroes dont need aim

[inland frost]

They just have to stand there.

[minor flame]

dive was more flashy to watch

but goats is probably more

unforgiving

as a meta

but dive suffered the same problem as goats

it was more flashy but it was the same heroes

[supple prism]

dive has way less variation

[unreal shell]

at least dive had more kills per minute unlike goats where a fight lasts 5 minutes because of trans, rally, sound barrier

[supple prism]

and basically HAD to mirror

[minor flame]

dive had more kills sure but they still had much more limited heroes

even though 3-3 is only tanks and supports usually

its had more variation than s1

theres some aspects about goats that were better than dive

but because goats is less flashy than dive to watch for

non players and more viewers

[ruby sable]

we're never gonna see sleepy again huh

[minor flame]

it suffers more in the esports thing

[gilded peak]

Does it have more viewers?

[unreal shell]

dive had more limited heroes? all dps except reaper were viable.

[minor flame]

all dps were viable pepega

yeah like 10 heroes were only used for dive for a majority of pick rates

if youre technically speaking

all dps are viable in this meta

its just some are more outclassed

same with dive

[inland frost]

I'm surprised that Zen isn't getting a bigger nerf to Discord.

a 5% change isn't that much.

[minor flame]

if you nerf zen discord too much he becomes trash

[gilded peak]

Curious, you don't think this 3-3 meta has even more limited hero pool?

[unreal shell]

discord was nerfed like twice already

you want more?

[ruby sable]

leave zenyatta alone lol

[minor flame]

3-3 meta has alot more variations than dive had

as limiting in roles as it is

[inland frost]

I'm also surprised McCree is getting any changes.

[minor flame]

he did

oh

nvm

McCree ult sucks dick

thats why

[ruby sable]

yeah i thought he was more or less balanced

[minor flame]

they basically exchanged his op close range

[ruby sable]

he might actually threaten tanks now

[minor flame]

for his shitty far range

[feral jacinth]

His fth was bad too

Too op

In ffa

[minor flame]

yeah FTH was nerfed so that High Noon could be better

[feral jacinth]

Stun fth dead

[inland frost]

5 less damage on Fan isn't a major change. And the new Deadeye change is... a bit drastic

[feral jacinth]

Stun fth dead

[minor flame]

granted its not better against normal 200 hp

[feral jacinth]

stun

fth

dead

Thats how it was

[minor flame]

5 less dmg?