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tawny sigil
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which frankly is what you should do

green stump
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5 months

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Because they haven't even announced their expectations yet.. the things the investors wait for every single year

tawny sigil
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even apex legend didn't help EA get out of their 50% drop

green stump
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Apex legends wasn't listed

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That's how business works

tawny sigil
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doesnt matter if its listed or not

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when it came out stock went up 20%

green stump
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So everything your saying is based off a Google report... Nothing comes from anything deeper does it

tawny sigil
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or 30 i forgot

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you have to look at google report and event that happens

green stump
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Does it?

tawny sigil
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does it what?

green stump
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This is just too funny

tawny sigil
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this is jsut too funny listening to someone trying to tell me how stock work and just saying statement that dont mean anything

green stump
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It's like everyone with an iphone suddenly thinks they can make it cause they know how the business world works

tawny sigil
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you havent said a single thing so far

green stump
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And now you can't even back to your statements

tawny sigil
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back my statement on what?

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you didnt ask anything other then "does it" i dont even know what you're pointing to

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like i said, you are not saying anything

green stump
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Because you need to be right otherwise you'll feel stupid. Listen, before we end this because you clearly can't defend your point anymore with a Google search as 'facts' try to think this over next time

tawny sigil
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you are conveying ZERO information

green stump
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So enough

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This was funny thing

tawny sigil
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there goes again, you made a whole sentence with 0 information

green stump
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Projection is funny

tawny sigil
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you are a fucking human being, conveying information is our strongest point, use it

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make a fucking sentence that make sense

green stump
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Lol information off a Google search

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Too rich

tawny sigil
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another snetence that doesnt mean anything

green stump
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Next time you gonna say twitter is a reliable source of information

tawny sigil
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another one

green stump
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Anyways

tawny sigil
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you are not asking anything question

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not pointing anything out

green stump
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@limber pine let's end this stupidity and go back to esports

tawny sigil
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you are just saying degrading sentence

green stump
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Yes you are

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But it's still funny

tawny sigil
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this is where i go and say

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you lost the argument long ago, and you turned to trolling mid way cause you cant admit

green stump
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Do you want this to me going or what?

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Or would you like me to end it

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Cause i can end your points in a second

tawny sigil
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you cant

green stump
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So do you want to keep fighting me m

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I can

tawny sigil
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you haven't said a single thing in the last 10 minute

green stump
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I have said a lot but it doesn't fit your narrative so you need to ignore it so you don't lose face

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Projection like i said

tawny sigil
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want me to refresh your mind?

green stump
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Again, if you want to keep going, you can but I'll end you in a second

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Or you can stop now and we can make the chanell go back to what it's supposed to be for and your can keep your proud

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Your choice

tawny sigil
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Because you need to be right otherwise you'll feel stupid. Listen, before we end this because you clearly can't defend your point anymore with a Google search as 'facts' try to think this over next time
This was attached to nothing, this is basically you saying, "You are not providing a link for every single claim you are making"
In short, you did not say anything

green stump
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Keep going huh?

tawny sigil
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yeah

green stump
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Fine, please provide me the results of the q2q report for 2018 to 2019 expectations

tawny sigil
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you have that

green stump
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No you have to do it

tawny sigil
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i asked you 10 times earlier

green stump
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This is your point

tawny sigil
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if you want link you never replied

green stump
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This is something you need to provide to me

tawny sigil
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you completly ignored every question i asked for 10 minutes

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and NOW you ask for links?

green stump
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If you cannot provide it, i will give you something else to look for

tawny sigil
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sorry dude you are a complet moron and have no idea what you are talking about

green stump
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Please give me the margin of growth from 2018 to 2019

tawny sigil
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for activision?

green stump
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That should be easy

tawny sigil
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there you go ignoring my question again

green stump
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Please give me the margin of growth from 2018 to 2019

tawny sigil
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you are asking for stuff without context then i ask you what you are pointing to and never reply

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you are a fucking troll

green stump
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That's easy

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Go ahead now

tawny sigil
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get the fuck out of here

green stump
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I'm waiting

tawny sigil
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i asked you if you want it for activision or not

green stump
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Please find my the margin

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Er me

tawny sigil
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yep ... completly ignoring my question

green stump
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If you can't do it, then let's just go back to esports and you can go be angry somewhere else

tawny sigil
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oh i know whats going on

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he muted me and just saying random shit

green stump
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... why would i mute you

tawny sigil
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guess not

green stump
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?? I don't mute anyone at all

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No matter what

upper niche
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Honestly I wish discord had a way of removing the massive height 'n Blocked messages' row.

green stump
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He does though lol

upper niche
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There's a dozen or so regulars here who it's much more pleasant and peaceful just blocking, unfortunately Discords UI makes it a tad annoying.

green stump
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So, we going back to esporta or you want to keep this going

tawny sigil
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discord block system is complet garbage

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it makes people you block even more visible

upper niche
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yeah 😦

tawny sigil
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back to esport overwatch, new hero is another hitscan... and i dont like it

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tired of hitscan

green stump
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Excellent! Much better

upper niche
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I'm tired of people not knowing what 'hitscan' means.

tawny sigil
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close are the days of 2-2-2 6 hitscan team

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1 hero away from that

upper niche
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"We need a hitscan". Dude, we have a reaper and a tracer, are you fucking dense? If what you mean is "we need a pharah counter", then learn the correct fucking terms :/

tawny sigil
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as far as i could tell, his left click didnt spread

green stump
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It does.. sightly

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Goes up

tawny sigil
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well the sight moves

green stump
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Similar to.. what was it... Uhhhh

tawny sigil
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but its always on point

green stump
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M4 from cs? I think that's the right one

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But it does spread slowly upward

tawny sigil
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not like tracer where even if the dot is on the character it might miss

green stump
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Yeah

tawny sigil
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if the dot is on a character here, it will hit

green stump
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It's more stable

tawny sigil
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that's what i refer to as hitscan

green stump
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Guessing due to it being burst fire

tawny sigil
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im sure there are players right now practicing how to stabalize every hit

upper niche
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A weapon with spread can still be hitscan. Hitscan simply refers to the mechanism in which you calculate the path and targets/polygons the path of that projectile interacts with.

green stump
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However, the application of the hero to esports will likely be more fitted into the Hammond comps

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He seems to have a better role with a stronger SYNERGY in those comps

upper niche
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I mean if you want to get really fucking technical, chances are the only actual hitscan weapons in the game are things like Syms and Zaryas beams. But we pretend that bullets travel at c, so they effectively become hitscan.

green stump
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The fact he's a support with mitigation is interesting though

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Brigs mitigation pales compares to his

tawny sigil
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well hitscan are an infinitely small point aren't they?

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unlike a projectile which can hit even if its not straight on

upper niche
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Yeah I suppose that's true, I never considered whether or not beam weapons have an aperture.

tawny sigil
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it always felt like mccree's shot are not a point but a cylinder

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could be wrong about that im pretty bad at mccree

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does anyone know?

green stump
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Good question, not sure

upper niche
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Dunno. Either way, I'll never be happy until they stop calculating the long edge of Hanzos arrows as being an impact.

tawny sigil
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every hanzo hit headshot, i get headshot on hanzo... and i dont get it

sullen berry
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Spamming crouch on stage to bait out a disengage

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When done right

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He'll totally be a 200iq flex support

proven kestrel
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anime profile pic nibbas

trim shadow
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so seoul doesnt have actually have a team house lol it looks like a complication of apartments cause ryu jecse and marvel are sharing a room

green stump
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@pearl stratus yoooo

trim shadow
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so far it looks like the shock have the best team house

pearl stratus
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@green stump ?

green stump
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@pearl stratus did you watch the jeff stylosa interview yet

pearl stratus
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Yeah

green stump
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The new one where he threw the community under the bus?

pearl stratus
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In which sense? The one where he makes fun of redditards?

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Cause thats not throwing under the bus

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Thats just truth.

green stump
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Lol

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@pearl stratus I'll give you a nod of approval for that my friend

pearl stratus
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Reddits general IQ is 12, and they can't balance a scale with two equal weights

green stump
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It's just so good

trim shadow
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was it saya or sinatra that got the big 150k contract last year

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wonder if they gave him a extra 50k for playing off tank as well

green stump
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@pearl stratus the forum post where everyone is in fully defensive mode trying to blame each other and the devs got locked

worn falcon
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@trim shadow Sinatraa

tawny sigil
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sinatraa matata

verbal roost
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why are shd and fuel playing back to back? 😮

tawny sigil
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twice

supple prism
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philly plays nyxl twice in the next stage and then philly plays boston twice in the 3rd stage. 4th stage doesnt seem to have anything similar.

verbal roost
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oh ok ty

hidden vault
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I think they shouldn't play the same team twice though

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Why do they do that?

tawny sigil
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i think the rotation is faster

hidden vault
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Not everyone plays against everyone in a stage~

tawny sigil
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it allows for revenge

hidden vault
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Sure then who should revenge who to make it fair?

tawny sigil
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lottery choice

hidden vault
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Good to get a team to be steamed rolled twiced ya?

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The fairest match up is for everyone to face everyone on the same maps

tawny sigil
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cant wait for that next shanghai match

sullen berry
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Some of these comments about getting their first win and not knowing what would happen in season 2

hidden vault
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Well it was a full team change

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All of the players that won boston did not experience the lose streak

strange bridge
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Imagine trading your player to the worst team in OWL just to lose to them

harsh tulip
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They are no where near the worst team in owl

pearl stratus
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@green stump Big ol' post of buffs and nerfs to tack on to the new hero.

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Buffed: Junkrat, McCree, Psuedo Symm
Nerfed: Lucio, Zarya, Zenyatta team play, Reaper.

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High Noon, if uneaten, is about to become the games barrier breaker.

hidden vault
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Even drop the beat can't save you?

pearl stratus
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If you want to get into hilarious theoreticals High Noon can have a damage cap in the range of 2800 per shot.

limber pine
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it'll be interesting if they have to cap damage amps

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Jeff or Geoff said they won't do it unless it becomes a problem.

pearl stratus
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I think it works in some situations. If McCree charges long enough to one shot Rein's shield, he deserves it.

limber pine
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aye

green stump
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@pearl stratus this is going to take a while to see the results from, that's for sure

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But this is going to shake the ladder

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But will it be a good thing.. that's what I'm questioning

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Previously i was okay with it

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But now, it's a lot more difficult to tell

pearl stratus
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The Lucio nerf/buff is the big one

slow walrus
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zarya's change is pretty sizable too, it cuts down the total area that she hits by 15 square meters minimum (radius of 3->2)

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it's a buff for reddit lucios and dps lucios

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it's a huge nerf for lucio's role in goats

green stump
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@pearl stratus high chance of double sniper

limber pine
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with junkrat buffs won't you just see the return of Orisa/junk/Widow defense comps?

pearl stratus
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I don't think so, they specifically buffed just the direct hit damage.

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Not splash.

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Which means for most Junks in the league its a minimal change at all.

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It more improves shield break, which isn't as big on defense imo.

ruby pendant
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!schedule

somber yewBOT
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pearl stratus
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@limber pine Thinking on it though I do think there's a lot more potential to see more Junkrat as an anti-goat, especially paired with Bap. Not for his tire (though tires good) but for just the ability for rotational pressure. With Lucio speed boost being nerfed as hard as it is on PTR Junk is a lot safer. And with 240 direct hits through Matrix I think he has a place again because while his impact damage is harder for general 1v1.

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It's not hard to direct hit goats

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It's giant bodies everywhere.

limber pine
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yeah agreed

pearl stratus
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Especially with Pharah getting her little buff too.

limber pine
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Return of Orisa/Junrat high ground strats on ToA

pearl stratus
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So while I don't think his buff directly helps him, Lucio and Zen's nerfs do.

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I don't think I'd use the Orissa in the anti goats.

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I'd use the Hammond.

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His buff was HUGE.

limber pine
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true

pearl stratus
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Not having to unball for shield drops out his weakness versus goats.

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So much harder for goats to actually catch him now.

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There's still the stun, but no chasing him down with Lucio.

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Lucio boops are going to be a LOT more common now though.

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Which is something people visually love to see.

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Doubling his wall ride speed bonus is kind of ridiculous lol

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You know who I think we might see, legitimately?

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Symm.

limber pine
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Symm shield busting going to be a thing with her buff?

pearl stratus
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I think there's a potential for it, yeah.

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20% ramp up time increase is huge.

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However, like Zarya, Brigitte will cock block her to some extent now.

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With the beam reduction on armor.

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Though an Immo High Noon McCree would probably be better.

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In short:

limber pine
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oof

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I hope McCree has a meta

pearl stratus
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I actually think shield busting is a perfect "fix" to make Deadeye useful.

limber pine
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it'd be nice to see dps players play dps

pearl stratus
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because Rein's shield shattering in one hit would be a potential lose condition for Goats.

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Because you could just do Noon -> Shatters.

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Both which charge fast as hell.

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Protect the president with: Rein/Zarya/McCree/Mercy/Baptiste potentially.

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Since the mercy amp should drop that 4.5 to ~2 seconds

limber pine
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who's the sixth

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Dva, Zen, or another dps?

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Tracer?

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Maybe Sombra

pearl stratus
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I wasn't sure, honestly.

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Ideally I'd say a Sombra.

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But losing D'va sucks too.

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So you might go Rein/D'va.

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You lose out on Matrix Firestrikes, but c'est la vie.

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Well Matrix+Grav firestrikes

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Which worked really well when we were goofing around.

limber pine
balmy wolf
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I am so excited for nyxl vs seoul dynasty

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In stage 1 and 2 from last season those were really intense

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I hope seoul wins

limber pine
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@pearl stratus Fixed a bug where Lúcio’s Speed Boost song dramatically affected D.Va when using Boosters or Mercy when using Valkyrie

pearl stratus
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That's fair, d'va bombs going the full map was a little busted.

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You could almost get one door to door on ruins.

ruby pendant
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nvm

slow walrus
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prays for these ptr patches to hit stage 2 of owl

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I love watching devs fuck with the meta and pros having to improvise and figure it out

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i.e. after mercy meta last year and during it

supple prism
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it most likely will since stage two isnt until april 4th

limber pine
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I honestly don’t think they’ll make it in time

silk fjord
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is the stream live?

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i checked and it isn't up for me but the website says a game is live rn

slow walrus
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your time zone might be messed up idk

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it isn't live till 4pm PST

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well

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generally 30ish min before that

silk fjord
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it's 4:25 rn

slow walrus
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not in PST lmao what

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it's 2:36 PST I live in seattle can confirm

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r u ok

silk fjord
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no im like tired

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ive been workin on stats homework for an exam tomorrow

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my brain is completely fried

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F

slow walrus
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I understand pal I had a linear matrix algebra midterm yesterday and and ochem midterm tuesday

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F

silk fjord
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thank you for helping me though

slow walrus
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of course, be well and gods be with you

supple prism
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im so glad im done with school

silk fjord
supple prism
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life is just so much easier than school

silk fjord
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well,

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this is my second time taking statistics in college

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and I need to pass it

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and im p sure this teacher will pass me

supple prism
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the worst thing is the loans

silk fjord
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in my state I get free two years

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all i have to pay for is books

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i am lucky but still, I have to fill out so much paperwork and do community service for free college

pearl stratus
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I'm with Sprite. There's a lot in these patches and they may add more still. They could rush it but I give it 60:40 we may not see them by stage 2

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And if we do I don't think we'll see any changes from them for a bit.

upper niche
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nah, stage 2 is like five weeks away.

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4th (PST)/5th (AEDT) April it starts, okay, so call it 4 weeks. That's plenty of time.

hidden osprey
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Feels weird seeing BenBest in your game of QP lol

balmy wolf
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whos playing right now

hidden osprey
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!schedule

somber yewBOT
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pearl stratus
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@upper niche Its long enough for a patch, I don't think its long enough to get instant changes because teams can't ignore continuing to scrim the rest of the stage on 3:3 in most situations., so unless you double down and scrim new stuff too I think Stage 2 is going to be similar to 1 for the first chunk

silk fjord
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when are they gonna give these players a spa day for those faces smh

upper niche
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I think that's why it'll be good - we'll see people who haven't shifted off 3/3, and those who have invested effort in trying new things.

silk fjord
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you get one player that looks like he washes his face every minute then one that looks like he hasn't washed his face in 6 months

upper niche
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That variation will be a good thing.

rugged yacht
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Winners: philly, Seoul, Charge, and Spark

sand dirge
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I keep getting a Payment not processed whenever I try to get the pass. Anyone else ever have this issue

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Its been going on for

limber pine
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nova wadi
pearl stratus
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Rofl.

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The entire desk making fun of Philly.

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Making crazy fun of Sado trying to overplay Winston and Monte just goes in on them like "Man. If only Philly had an aggressive Reinhardt who had some experience with Goats. It'd be great if maybe be was scandinavian."

upper niche
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oh FFS Twitch/OWL, stop showing me the same ads repeatedly. Same ad three times this break.

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And the second time I've seen this Amazon ad this break.

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WTF?

opal spruce
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Watchpoint is a masterpiece. Change my mind

upper niche
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Also, WTF - is this?

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@opal spruce Watch the current Monte skit. That should do it.

opal spruce
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thats what im talking about lol

upper niche
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yah

cedar drum
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I gotta be honest here

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This is just unfunny and awkward

upper niche
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@cedar drum Don't.

cedar drum
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Who comes up with this shit

upper niche
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They did something similar last week which was a cringefest.

cedar drum
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How do they not get it?

opal spruce
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anyone else getting a weird sound clip every now and then

cedar drum
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I feel like someone high up comes up with this and nobody wants to say no to this person

upper niche
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It's America and their employment system so yeah, probably.

rapid bobcat
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Bots on Uprising zaryalul

upper niche
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Uber jokes on Twitter all the time about worrying about getting fired for doing what we'd consider normal stuff.

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omg WTF, the same Charles Sturt ad twice in a row f%@(%@.

pearl stratus
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Hm. Stratus in line up for Justice tonight. Philly playing like dog shit.

opal spruce
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@upper niche you havin fun man?

pearl stratus
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I think if we don't see Fragi or Boombox Washington might get their first win.

#

Ads in 2019 XD

upper niche
#

@opal spruce le sigh.

pearl stratus
#

Rein can't lead you to counter Sombra..

inland pawn
pearl stratus
#

No matter how good of a little chav Fusions is.

sharp kindle
#

So many ads for Anthem lol

opal spruce
#

but if you click m1 enough, eventually the hammer will land on sombra

pearl stratus
#

On a side note

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I like this trash talk:

opal spruce
#

im loving the trash talk, its how rivalries and whatnot should be formed, naturaly

pearl stratus
#

Also god bless Hangzhou.

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For bringing in all these fucking posters.

tawny sigil
#

wolf's stare is something else that's for sure

opal spruce
#

i feel like he's judging me for somehting he heard i did but he isnt entirely sure it was me

tawny sigil
#

i know right

#

like you're not sure whats gonna happen

pearl stratus
#

He kind of reminds me of the epic meal time guy.

#

If he wasn't a fat shit.

balmy wolf
#

Inb4 Boombox pukes on stage

tawny sigil
#

PAUSED

opal spruce
#

tactical pukes

tawny sigil
#

i just imagine all those pro gamers to be super weak

#

ground shaking from the crowd is like a roller coaster

pearl stratus
#

Dear Sado:

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Stop trying to make Winston happen you fuckboy. Fragi is the better Rein, at least try and make him being benched reasonable.
Signed,
Everyone.

feral jacinth
#

“Boombox has third lowest first deaths as zen”

#

Hes been dead guys

rough meadow
#

what's the green lock on twitch

feral jacinth
#

Thats why

opal spruce
#

@rough meadow do you have the pass?

rough meadow
#

no

opal spruce
#

hm

#

then i dont know

#

cause i have it too

nova wadi
#

@pearl stratus sad but true

rough meadow
#

i think everyone does

#

but not sure what it is

fathom acorn
#

Only 80,000 views

#

Wtf

nova wadi
#

It just started

fathom acorn
#

That’s like half from last week

tawny sigil
#

shanghai won one game... the thrill is gone

fathom acorn
#

Still kinda weird

opal spruce
#

its 6pm central on a thursday, 80k is good

pearl stratus
#

Oh are you still on Twitch?

opal spruce
#

its also fusion and justice

pearl stratus
#

It's also Twitch. Lots of people are going to streams with not welfare bitrates.

opal spruce
#

ive never had that problem on twitch

tawny sigil
#

i wish the mlg stream was on during weekend

pearl stratus
#

You'd think Twitch would have higher, but they're one of the lowest.

nova wadi
#

One day we will see fragi play

pearl stratus
#

Both OWL.com and MLG have around a 150% to 200% higher bitrate quality, so I tend to stick to them.

#

And both give tokens, too.

nova wadi
#

Im p sure owl goes through twitch lol

opal spruce
#

but can i watch poko's POV on those?

pearl stratus
#

No, but in defense you'd be better off watching a good D'va.

opal spruce
#

well poko and sansam, who would you choose

pearl stratus
#

The standard view.

opal spruce
#

😂

inland pawn
#

Pog

opal spruce
#

F to bob

pearl stratus
#

When 3 DPS can't do enough damage.

#

Philly scuffed af

#

Ashe not the right call.

#

Sansam ate every dynamite.

#

Then a bot Bob

opal spruce
#

they were really counting on the BOB and he did it wrong

pearl stratus
#

Bob's not a strong ult.

elder quarry
#

bob is good in quick play

balmy wolf
#

Bob gets easily countered most of the time at higher ranks

#

Bob is basically more of a distraction than a tool to get kills

#

wtf kind of map was this???

pearl stratus
#

Washington just booped him out to right infront of the wall

#

Took out all hisLoS.

#

Quick and clean

opal spruce
#

holy 2 minute ad break

balmy wolf
#

It's so fucking easy to counter Bob, you just LOS him

worn falcon
#

@pearl stratus isnt OWL site just a embedded twitch viewer?

balmy wolf
#

philly probs would've won if they just switch early on

pearl stratus
#

Also at low SR when everyones a potato

nova wadi
#

@worn falcon it is

pearl stratus
#

Reaper counts Bob.

balmy wolf
#

I think Carpe just really really wanted to play Ashe lol

pearl stratus
#

Reaper heals faster than Bob does damage.

#

So you can literally just tank Bob.

nova wadi
#

Is this really the philly who won against atl

#

Ffs

balmy wolf
#

And also lost to Florida

pearl stratus
#

Eh. Sado is one of their biggest issues imo.

nova wadi
#

Agreed

balmy wolf
#

#FreeFragi

pearl stratus
#

He's uncomfortable on Rein, and its 3:3.

#

4head.

undone valley
#

.play panda

nova wadi
#

Fragi pls

undone valley
#

. play panda

balmy wolf
#

Sado just tries to take any opportunity to play Winston instead of Rein

pearl stratus
#

I give respect to Gesture for not doing that.

#

Because Gestures Rein is like...

#

oof

#

But he doesn't pretend its not necessary.

#

lol

balmy wolf
#

Gesture's Rein isn't "bottom tier" like a lot of /r/cow claims, but it def could use some improvement

pearl stratus
#

It's arguably one of the lower ranked ones.

#

Worst Rein flat out is Ameng.

balmy wolf
#

He's had his moments

pearl stratus
#

But thats because Ameng is a baller.

balmy wolf
#

Gesture's Rein is inconsistent if anything

#

Sometimes he just goes for some really aggro plays which his team don't assist with

#

Sado really likes Winston huh

pearl stratus
#

Gesture, Sado, Ameng, Swon are probably my bottom Reins overall.

#

Oh, Gamsu as well until I see more.

#

It looked really good versus Boston, but I remember Season 1. So I need to see more.

balmy wolf
#

Boston didn't have Fusions playing to show his megachad energy

pearl stratus
#

I mean all he would have shown was a hacked symbol.

minor flame
#

lmao justice took a map

balmy wolf
#

ooff

minor flame
#

is justice gonna be actually

#

decent team

pearl stratus
#

I will never back down from saying that Boston would have lost even with Fusions.

#

Because Dding dicked all over them with Sombra, Rein doesn't change that.

minor flame
#

I dont think ittl be that different

#

unless fusions has some big brain 900iq

balmy wolf
#

Sometimes I see Janus playing and can't help but feel like he's lost.

minor flame
#

how to counterplay sombra as rein strat

pearl stratus
#

I just see a coach who named himself Genius, and is showing he's not that much of one @balmy wolf

minor flame
#

what mapd id justice win?

#

illios?

pearl stratus
#

Ilios.

supple prism
#

yea

balmy wolf
#

I mean how else do you lose in the semis to Fusion lol

minor flame
#

was it close

pearl stratus
#

No, on all 3.

#

Washington dominated 1, Philly dominated 2, Washington dominated 3.

undone valley
#

ugh

minor flame
#

is Philly playing like shit or is Justice ok

balmy wolf
#

Philly tried to run a 3 DPS comp on the third map

pearl stratus
#

So it was close in terms of being 2:1, but none of the maps were actually close.

#

A REALLY BAD 3 DPS comp.

#

Carpe on Ashe, doing nothing

#

Botted a Bob into a wall lol

#

Never swapped.

minor flame
#

when baptiste patch comes in

#

which will win

#

NYXL or Titans

supple prism
#

nyxl

pearl stratus
#

Whichever one runs Sombra first.

minor flame
#

Meko is pretty good

#

i dont know who runs ombra on titans though

pearl stratus
#

Sombra fucks Baptiste into the ground.

#

And shits in his mouth.

#

And not in the good German porn way.

#

In the 'I just ate taco bell' way.

opal spruce
#

who does she not do that too?

minor flame
#

Sombra is going to get nerfed after this patch because everyones gonna complain about how she shuts down everyone

pearl stratus
#

It's different when she can EMP every one of your abilities @opal spruce

#

You can hack the drone, you can emp his ult, and he's already got cooldowns sitting at 15-20 seconds.

#

Its just cruel.

#

Its like hacking a Lucio level of fucked.

minor flame
#

you think Baptiste will be a fairly picked hero in Stage 3-4?

pearl stratus
#

Hard to tell really. From what I've played and scrimmed with him he's still really good.

#

Most things have a decent drawback.

#

Like his super jump is great mobility.

#

But you can also very easily get shot in the face.

#

Because its just a bigger parabolic arc for a Widow.

minor flame
#

what elo do you scrim at endo?

#

you soudn like you have a lot of time on your hands

pearl stratus
#

Low masters, and no we do like two hours a week once or twice a week :p

minor flame
#

ah

pearl stratus
#

PTR was just well timed.

#

We're all losers with jobs and girlfriends/wives and shit

upper niche
#

I don't think Baptiste will get a lot of use. He'll get picked at a similar rate to Ashe.

minor flame
#

except Ashe isnt picked that much cause the meta is goats

pearl stratus
#

I think its going to be how the meta settles, he provides some interesting utility for some things.

minor flame
#

once goats gets decimated by blizz

pearl stratus
#

Like McCree with Baptiste turns high noon into a psuedo barrier mortar, which is interesting.

minor flame
#

ashe and baptiste will have fairly moderate atleast pick rates

pearl stratus
#

Ashe I think will be less than Baptiste, personally.

minor flame
#

in raw damage i feel mccree just outclasses ashe

pearl stratus
#

D'va still shuts down her dynamite so hard, and thats huge to impacting her.

upper niche
#

I dunno. I actually think we'll see more Mercy for some reason.

balmy wolf
#

I reckon that Immortality Field will open up some pretty crazy strats for Baptiste

opal spruce
#

is Justice really gonna win this?

pearl stratus
#

And there's nothing that makes me think D'va still won't be 90%+

minor flame
#

the only thing ashe has is a high reward low risk ult

#

and some utility

supple prism
#

philly is just doing awful

upper niche
#

Has there been a NanoBob in OWL?

pearl stratus
#

Its because they have a viking on the bench.

minor flame
#

ashe is barely played in stage anyway

#

i think like prob 1

pearl stratus
#

No, there's been one Bob that I can remember

#

And Carpe threw it into a wall.

upper niche
#

haha

minor flame
#

wtf is justice doing

pearl stratus
#

The thing is Bob is so...

#

Easy to counter.

opal spruce
#

they choked that so hard

upper niche
#

WTF, WAS won the first map??!

pearl stratus
#

Even Nano bob.

opal spruce
#

beat in the middle of trance

pearl stratus
#

Yeah.

upper niche
#

Philly, WTH are you doing?

minor flame
#

bob is a good decoy

#

at least

#

its sometihng you cant

#

really ignore

pearl stratus
#

Eh depends on the enemy comp.

#

I just hack hi.

minor flame
#

well yeah

pearl stratus
#

*him

#

And then he doesn't exist.

minor flame
#

it could be easy to just let someone take the bullets and hack him

#

it just never happens in ranked cause

#

youre usually in cover

pearl stratus
#

You can hack him before he finishes his animation.

#

In terms of running + hitting wall and turning

#

And unlike Ana sleep you can't break the hack on damage.

#

It just shuts down the entire duration.

minor flame
#

i wonder how viable goats will be after this meta

#

cause i dont want to die fully

#

its a good meta but not something that should be

#

dominant as much as it is now

ember nymph
#

Looks like we will get a reverse sweep but not reverse

nova wadi
#

They nerfed dive and goats. Im feeling a strong dual sniper meta on this one

opal spruce
#

Philly really gonna let Wash take them to map 5

minor flame
#

dual sniper is iffy

#

both hitscans buffed

#

baptiste immortality exists too

nova wadi
#

Wym both hit scans

#

Hanzo is proj

minor flame
#

soldier got buffed

#

mccree got kinda buffed

#

so both hitscans have

#

a fair chance to still shut down snipers

#

with immortality

nova wadi
#

Mccree is ass against snipers

minor flame
#

mehhh

#

he can 3 tap them

#

i wouldnt say hes ass at all

nova wadi
#

Snipers prolly wont be in 3 tap range lmfao

#

Also isnt immortality shield 250 hp

opal spruce
#

ish

minor flame
#

you can probably pull it out behind a corner

upper niche
#

mccree got a slight buff from far but slight nerf close up (fan)

nova wadi
#

Wasnt his buff high noon

minor flame
#

high noon has alot of shutdown potential for tanks and beat

pearl stratus
#

Overall I think his high noon buff was moving the ult into being less about picks and more about just smashing the fuck out of shields/bubbles.

#

Which is interesting, and I like the concept.

minor flame
#

winston primals

#

are shaking rn

pearl stratus
#

I was telling Sprite that I think I could see Rein/D'va/Baptiste/McCree/Mercy. 6th slot being variable.

upper niche
#

"It looks like it's gonna be Washington up 2-0 at halftime" - aren't the maps over, so isn't it decided?

nova wadi
#

Talking about how it looked like the game was gonna go

upper niche
#

but the map was over.

gilded peak
#

Soe has been wrong all these time, so Philly is winning it

minor flame
#

yeah i think they meant

#

It looked like

#

not it looks like

pearl stratus
#

He meant during the match it looked like that.

#

With Wash almsot full holding Point A.

upper niche
#

ah, missed the '-ed'

pearl stratus
#

One bad timing on support ults was all that it took.

upper niche
#

WOOHOO< it's the same ad again!

minor flame
#

G A M E R S

#

laptop

pearl stratus
#

I don't get ads.

opal spruce
#

still having fun akashra?

pearl stratus
#

I highly recommend it.

upper niche
#

@opal spruce NO

#

OMFG

#

Same ad, twice in a row

oblique valley
#

so what y'all think of this game

nova wadi
#

Twitch once gave me 6 ads in a row on my phone

opal spruce
#

an ad is more intersting to watch than this countdown

nova wadi
#

I had to turn that shit off

minor flame
#

this game is

pearl stratus
#

I think Philly looks like shit and need to start scrimming Fragi in.

minor flame
#

ok

gilded peak
#

Did Toyota stopped their ads with OW?

forest wharf
#

getting ads in 2019 omegalul

nova wadi
#

Rt endoken

oblique valley
#

I'm rooting for fusion cuz it's the only good philly team rn

upper niche
#

@nova wadi Yeah but the SAME ad 6 times in a row?

oblique valley
#

but yeah philly's been shit

pearl stratus
#

I mean I'd want Fusion to win too.

nova wadi
#

@upper niche doubt not sure

upper niche
#

hm yeah, I haven't seen Toyota supporting the league this year.

pearl stratus
#

But they're trying to do everything they can to lose.

#

They're still there.

minor flame
#

I dont like countdown that much but I would like to see some fucking stats instead of some gaming laptop omen by hp ad

pearl stratus
#

Just not on Twitch ads.

#

I think they primarily took the TV Ads

#

For ESPN/Disney.

upper niche
#

Ah

gilded peak
#

Makes sense

pearl stratus
#

Better market for their product, most likely.

opal spruce
#

theyre on the maps screen

oblique valley
#

and honestly I thought it was cuz no boombox but boom is in and they're still playing eh

upper niche
#

That would make more sense. There'd not a great deal of cashed up 20-year-old OWL fans buying RAV4s.

pearl stratus
#

Sado is their biggest issue.

#

@upper niche Also its cheaper for them. The ads on twitch are too short, so they probably have to make specific ones.

forest wharf
#

theyve thrown in the "brought to you by toyota" line before games a couple times

pearl stratus
#

TV slots are set times.

oblique valley
#

@pearl stratus explain for someone who just started watching

pearl stratus
#

So they only make one commercial.

minor flame
#

neptuno lol

#

ohis this stratus first game?

#

oh shit

pearl stratus
#

Sado forces more Winston and over-aggression (the way Winston needs to be played in Goats to get the cleave damage for Primal) because he's very uncomfortable on Rein. @oblique valley And in most situations Rein is just the better choice off the bat.

nova wadi
#

Fahzix healbot lucio

minor flame
#

Sado is like the Janus of NYXL

#

except Janus is on Justice

oblique valley
#

yeah that makese sense

pearl stratus
#

Which is sad because they have Fragi on the bench, an EU tank who knows Goats and plays an incredible Rein.

minor flame
#

hows stratus looking before owl?

nova wadi
#

Never seen fragi play ngl

minor flame
#

just a decent meh

#

pro player

#

?

pearl stratus
#

Fucking idiots. Did you not watch Spark play this map?

#

You do not play Winston on A.

#

Too high risk.

nova wadi
#

Welp

minor flame
#

winston point a

#

lmao

pearl stratus
#

NYXL gets away with it, not Washignton Justice lol

nova wadi
#

Cause nyxl is insane

minor flame
#

Janus is doing a janus rn

oblique valley
#

I love watching boom play

minor flame
#

Anubis throwing on Winston

topaz anchor
#

Do we know how to look at stats in command center?

pearl stratus
#

NYXL has more cohesion than anyone except for Vancouver.

nova wadi
#

Runaway boiis

pearl stratus
#

So when Mano does a winston dive he gets his off-tanks.

#

Janus just dove in alone.

nova wadi
#

Grav pog

#

Neptuno

minor flame
#

nyxl and titans being undefeated rn is very hype

#

too bad itll be like

#

a while before they face off

pearl stratus
#

You mean the stage finals?

#

😛

minor flame
#

thats in like

pearl stratus
#

5 weeks

minor flame
#

2 weeks?

#

ah

#

ah?

pearl stratus
#

This is only week 3 of 7

nova wadi
#

Boombox big brain

minor flame
#

what?

#

7?

nova wadi
#

7

opal spruce
#

you sure its not 5?

minor flame
#

i dont get you

nova wadi
#

Philly doing winston point A

#

Ok then

minor flame
#

in schedule its 3 out of 5 weeks

opal spruce
#

^

minor flame
#

is there some hidden big brain schedule

nova wadi
#

Imagine washington getting the same time bank

#

Cause sado forces winston

pearl stratus
#

Poko is playing up with him

#

Sado should be relatively fine

nova wadi
#

For now

minor flame
#

what is this primal

#

sado

nova wadi
#

Called having no boombox

pearl stratus
#

It was to not die.

#

He got stunned out

minor flame
#

welcome to anubis

nova wadi
#

Drawnubis

pearl stratus
#

Neptuno is overrated, I think.

#

I can't decide if I think that, or I just think he can't balance his aggressive style to not die to stupid shit like bombs.

minor flame
#

neptuno either gets a pick or he is the pick

#

thats his main issue

supple prism
#

is he wallriding too much?

pearl stratus
#

I'm pretty sure he was riding up top middle when he died to Sansams bomb

supple prism
#

cant even see his body in that bomb

pearl stratus
#

Sado fucks up his jump

#

9/10 fuck up.

nova wadi
#

Smile

#

FRAGI BABYRAGE

pearl stratus
#

Oof

#

Sansam should have saved that mech.

#

They'd be coming back with three tank ults and a beat

balmy wolf
#

dva staggers hurt to watch

pearl stratus
#

Oh he did.

#

Never mind

feral jacinth
#

Oh

#

Wow that was

pearl stratus
#

Sado trying to be tricky

feral jacinth
#

Violent

balmy wolf
#

wow lol

pearl stratus
#

Sado was doing the same thing, Janus got the better angle lol

low crag
#

Solid place to be for Washington

balmy wolf
#

they held that point nicely

feral jacinth
#

Oof rip roundo

gilded peak
#

Could had hold that point A if they didn't mess up

balmy wolf
#

the support ults were bad

gilded peak
#

Really bad

#

The nano was very questionable

forest wharf
balmy wolf
#

wow

forest wharf
#

huh, so turns out jayne was right, philly's goats is indeed trash

balmy wolf
#

what even was that fight

minor flame
#

gido

gilded peak
#

Gido has been wasting way too many ults

minor flame
#

justice

#

wtf was that

#

AHA WEVE GOTTEN BEHIND YOU

#

NOW WE WILL TAKE BACK THE PAYLOAD

balmy wolf
#

these are weird support ults

minor flame
#

COREY

#

LMAO

#

what is justices obsession with

visual glen
#

Amazing grav

minor flame
#

going behind philly

nova wadi
#

Washington ????

balmy wolf
#

200 iq

forest wharf
#

yea this is what happens when you pick up the subs from teams zaryalul

nova wadi
#

Wasting ults like its nothing

visual glen
#

Spend everything on coach not enough left for players LUL

nova wadi
#

Almost full holding philly but then thiss happens

balmy wolf
#

washington's support ults are just so oddly timed

minor flame
#

huh

#

what is this

#

a forecast?

forest wharf
#

?

#

will smith question mark moment

pearl stratus
#

I think he means the Nick Young.

forest wharf
#

TIL you can charge that gap and make it up there

pearl stratus
#

Well

solar trout
#

yay

pearl stratus
#

At least Gido makes Rawkus look good.

solar trout
#

:/

#

There you go. You have boombox you start winning again

forest wharf
#

i mean, theyre against justice so not saying much

pearl stratus
#

I mean they were against Florida.

#

And it said a lot.

forest wharf
#

lol, true

#

100 high energy kills

trim shadow
#

Justice back it with the choke special

forest wharf
#

#20 zaryalul

hidden vault
#

Is Gido worse then rawkus?...

forest wharf
#

he was pretty washed on seoul, doesnt look much better now

lean badge
#

Boston Dragonlosers coming

gilded peak
#

Rawkus is bad?

coarse ginkgo
#

dynasty vs uprising is a runback right?

supple prism
#

runback?

coarse ginkgo
#

from day 1

#

like a revenge match u could say

trim shadow
#

Janus broke his back today trying to carry the justice

forest wharf
#

boston is definitely gonna still be too depressed from losing to shanghai to win this

coarse ginkgo
#

lol

balmy wolf
#

rip boston

coarse ginkgo
#

is fusions in it this time

gilded peak
#

Don't think so

coarse ginkgo
#

then why am i watching

gilded peak
#

Unless they were able to get the whole contract fixed

#

Because you want to see Uprising get destroyed

forest wharf
#

they just said hes in the lineup now

coarse ginkgo
#

yo hes here

supple prism
#

fusions is in

coarse ginkgo
#

yaasasssss

gilded peak
#

Oooh, I guess they fixed the contract or his last game for the stage.

trim shadow
#

Seo va boston?

#

Seo 4-0

supple prism
#

they gave him a full contract

#

3-1

coarse ginkgo
#

dam it looks like hes outclassed

gilded peak
#

Oh nice.

#

Looks? Looks like Steve from Minecraft you say?

coarse ginkgo
#

or maybe seoul has better healers

trim shadow
#

The uprising are suppose to be the patriots of overwatch

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But look like the cleveland browns

coarse ginkgo
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did uprising win a game yet

gilded peak
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I still wanna know why Michelle picked that name

supple prism
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boston is 1-2

coarse ginkgo
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lmao michelle

forest wharf
supple prism
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boston beat outlaws

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barely

coarse ginkgo
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im a seoul fan just cuz of the theme song

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its dope

forest wharf
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its pretty dank

gilded peak
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Did Tobi retire?

forest wharf
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doesnt fit the team at all tho lol

solar trout
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So happy to see fusions back in

gilded peak
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So.. why did they change their entrance? No more mid entrance?

supple prism
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tobi is still in dynasty

forest wharf
warm quartz
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whats the current score

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im ingame and checking would break my pc

supple prism
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just started

gilded peak
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Grab your phone

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and look at the score?

warm quartz
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upstairs charging l m a o

gilded peak
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ah, lol

supple prism
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philly beat washington 3-1 though

warm quartz
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that one

gilded peak
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Check back in 10 minutes and we'll tell you

warm quartz
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thank

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Ok so game 1 is done coo

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im burning time till game 3

supple prism
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philly started off bad but picked up later in the match

forest raven
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What the

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I'm not getting tokens

warm quartz
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Might be backed up

supple prism
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hmm, im at 6 today

low crag
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Stop screamingggg

supple prism
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69%, nothing to laugh at

river magnet
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Boston should be disqualified for losing to Shanghai

supple prism
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they looking good right now

gilded peak
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Why? They are gonna have to live that shame down for ages.

pearl stratus
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Your mother should be disqualified for having you, if we're going to start talking about long term losers.

river magnet
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Fusions is a huge carry for them

pearl stratus
#

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Moral of the story is everyone makes mistakes.

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It happens.

river magnet
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That's mean :(

pearl stratus
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Just watch OWL.

tawny sigil
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sombra can 1 shot a zenyatta with an EMP

forest wharf
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imagine losing to the team that lost to shanghai

tawny sigil
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wiser word have never been spoken

river magnet
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The casters are right, dynasty saw what sombra did to Boston for Shanghai and they don't use it?!?

forest wharf
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ugh the screeching

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theres not even an outlaws game today, dafuq

tawny sigil
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well there is gonna be entire week without outlaws games

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better get used to it

forest wharf
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then why are the screeching outlaws fangirs there

river magnet
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Dynasty have those fans too

tawny sigil
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those are the korean girls

solar trout
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oof

coarse ginkgo
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dang

gilded peak
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Good comeback

pearl stratus
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100% Jecse

tawny sigil
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GROS MICHELLE

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yeah

ruby pendant
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wow

coarse ginkgo
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michelle popped off

pearl stratus
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That was Jecse.

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Not Michelle.

gilded peak
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Nicely done

coarse ginkgo
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ok true

tawny sigil
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nobody understood my joke 😦

pearl stratus
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Behind every good Bomb is a Lucio not shown in the kill feed.

supple prism
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for now

gilded peak
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Damn Fleta

river magnet
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Hard carry, like I said 😂 fusions is huge

tawny sigil
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couldn't have taken a more confusing name

gilded peak
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Honestly, Fusions has been weak right now

river magnet
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What game are you watching?

gilded peak
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If you really thinking that Fusions is popping off right now, then you are just a big Fusions fanboy.

limber umbra
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if boston had fusions last week, shanghai woulda still won

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the way fusions is playing rn

gilded peak
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He played way better on his debut

limber umbra
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^^

gilded peak
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This is pretty weak right now.

lean badge
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whatever, they are the first team lost to dragons. That's all that matters.

supple prism
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looks angry when he talks

river magnet
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The casters just said it 🤷🏻‍♂️

pearl stratus
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Either way Fusions doesn't change Sombra checking.

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The only reason Boston is even holding their own is because Seoul is being fucking stupid.

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And Michelle is still on D'va.

gilded peak
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Seoul is not very aggressive at all

worn falcon
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the fuck was doing fleta?

pearl stratus
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He was thinking they were going to try and hold at the corner

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At which point he'd want to be on the high ground.

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They held further back

worn falcon
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Boy, Seoul is a mess

pearl stratus
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They may have called for the corner hold

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And Boston came out faster than expected.

gilded peak
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Seems like when it comes to Dva ult combo, Seoul wins

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But in terms of being aggressive, Boston is better

tawny sigil
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they should change it so baby dva can build her main ult aswell

gilded peak
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Or let you kill yourself

supple prism
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nah

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dva strong enough

gilded peak
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Because being staggered sucks

pearl stratus
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Colourhex finally dying helps.

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They hadn't reset his energy in a while.

river magnet
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Are they even tracking ults? They must have known he had grav so why be offensive with Zen ult 😂

gilded peak
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Charging up energy is too easy in GOATS, you can easily get it back up to 80 in matter of seconds.

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Very interesting comp

solar trout
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lol jehong hiding in the bushes

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he survived though, so it works

worn falcon
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Supports surviving

gilded peak
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I wonder, but does no one ever try a normal hack on rein?

mystic saffron
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it's usually hard to normal hack a rein

feral jacinth
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Bronze people do

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(Me)

pearl stratus
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It's also not as important as other targets.

mystic saffron
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yeah because it's easier to get away w it

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welllll

feral jacinth
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Mhm

pearl stratus
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D'va is highest priority in most situations.

mystic saffron
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mhm

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dva, zarya, rein are usually who I try to target

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if not a lucio

pearl stratus
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In Goats Rein wants to spend his time swinging too, so while it does impede his shield usage it doesn't impact him in such a negative way.

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Whereas no DM means Gravs, etc, etc, etc.

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Even a Zarya means no discord cleansing, etc.

mystic saffron
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no shield means a higher chance of a good shatter though

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mhm

gilded peak
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Seoul has no defense

feral jacinth
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When you hack a dva and kill her feels so nice

mystic saffron
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I love melting dva as tracer

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bc they usually use their dm all at once

feral jacinth
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Yup

pearl stratus
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I get that Fissure is swinging to get ult charge

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But not charging is fucking his team

mystic saffron
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yup

feral jacinth
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Dva is nothing without abilities

pearl stratus
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He's so fucking overrated.

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It drives me nuts.

mystic saffron
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fissure?

pearl stratus
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Yeah.

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Like he's good, but he makes such selfish decisions.

river magnet
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His rein isn't great, but idk a better Winston

pearl stratus
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Than Fissure?

mystic saffron
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he was good when he was with la, and made the team. he doesnt sync well with Seoul though

limber umbra
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what the fuck

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was that fight

pearl stratus
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Mano, Oge, Bumper, Fate

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I could keep going.

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Fissure is low on the list of Winstons, imo.

mystic saffron
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mhm

pearl stratus
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Guxue, though Guxue is a much weaker Rein.

mystic saffron
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guxue did great in the wc

pearl stratus
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His Rein was so-so but his Winston, even in OWL, is solid.

mystic saffron
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yup

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roar is a pretty decent winston at least from what I've seen, although I may be biased

tawny sigil
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denote

river magnet
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I forgot about Mano, that guy is insane on both 😂

limber umbra
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is switching out of their ults correct in this case

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you would think they'd play with hammines in this push

pearl stratus
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I think it was a smart switch, but I think an improvement on the initial comp could fix a lot.

ruby sable
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man what is up with seoul this season

limber umbra
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fissure IS a selfish tank

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that's the problem

pearl stratus
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I think if Seoul ran: Fissure Hammond, Fleta Pharah, Michelle Sombra, Munchkin Zarya, RHJ Zen, Jecse Lucio it might transition better.

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The keep the D'va, which I'm not sure is 100% how I'd go.

ruby sable
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tbh i don't know why they couldn't keep running fleta on pharah

mystic saffron
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dunno how well a zen could work

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right

pearl stratus
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Pharah loses impact on the streets phase, especially that corner imo.

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There's less places to duck and land.

ruby sable
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yeah but we're talking about fleta here lol

sinful heron
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Shanghai > Seoul confirmed

pearl stratus
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And the Zen can usually hang back far enough to throw shots uninterrupted

ruby sable
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yeah that's true

pearl stratus
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Seoul is relying too much on a pure 3:3.

supple prism
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and more space to hide from rockets and ult

sinful heron
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I love how you can tell the lack of hype now that people know 3-3 is dying soon

river magnet
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One hit from the Zen and note flying up and he's dead

sinful heron
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People are like "IT'S OVER, IT'S FINALLY OVER"

mystic saffron
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you mean almost every team is relying on 3-3

ruby sable
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@sinful heron bc of the new patch?